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Speaker 1: from the Training camp grounds in Oxnard, California, of course,
Speaker 1: presented by American Airlines. Is Training Camp twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: rolls on here from the West Coast alongside Mickey's Bag Nola,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, I'm Kyle Yeoman's where we are just thirty
Speaker 1: one days away, gentlemen, one month pretty much exactly from
Speaker 1: kickoff of the twenty twenty one season and that Week
Speaker 1: one matchup with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That's a Thursday
Speaker 1: night football game. But we have Thursday night football and
Speaker 1: a little Saturday afternoon football to talk about for the
Speaker 1: first time here on Talking Cowboys, because the last time
Speaker 1: we had a show, we were leading into the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, and then we
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to catch up since the Saturday
Speaker 1: practice against the Rams, and like Mike McCarthy, said Rob.
Speaker 1: It was a week one and a half really of
Speaker 1: preseason football for this Cowboys team, and it was a
Speaker 1: beneficial one at that. Yeah, I mean because of that
Speaker 1: in part, you know, they're they're giving the guys basically
Speaker 1: three days off. You know they're going to have a
Speaker 1: walkthrough tomorrow, but mostly just kind of weight room work
Speaker 1: and film work today to clean everything up because it's
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a quick forty eight hours when
Speaker 1: you think about what they had to do going up
Speaker 1: against two teams, not live against the Rams, but but
Speaker 1: some good work. You know, Mickey and I were at
Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen joint practice out here against the Rams
Speaker 1: and that was like a barroom brawl at time. This
Speaker 1: one was like a pillow fight compared to that in
Speaker 1: terms of some of the skirmishes. But I think you
Speaker 1: said it before we went on, like it was just
Speaker 1: the right amount of physicality. You know, there were a
Speaker 1: couple of dust steps and all that, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: anything where anybody I think was at risk of getting hurt.
Speaker 1: And when you go up against the team that's been
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl and the team has got some swagger,
Speaker 1: like that's that's a good little test early in camp,
Speaker 1: and I think we forget sometimes that we're early in camp.
Speaker 1: They've had five six padded practices. That's it. One preseason game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're wrapping things up here in Oxnard this week. But
Speaker 1: there's still a long way to go. Yeah, Mike should
Speaker 1: have get have named a movie. Right, forty eight hours.
Speaker 1: He kept talking about forty eight hours. And it was
Speaker 1: a good forty eight hours. Eddie Murphy. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and and I thought, I like what he said.
Speaker 1: He said, this team improved a lot over the last
Speaker 1: forty eight hours, and I'm really excited about that. And
Speaker 1: I think, you know, it was a quick turnaround from
Speaker 1: as Rob said, you play on Thursday night in Canton, Ohio.
Speaker 1: You show up here Friday at five in the morning,
Speaker 1: and then by Saturday at three o'clock you're practicing against
Speaker 1: the Rams. So they content they put a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff into a short period of time. And you know,
Speaker 1: I thought it was good. I thought the guys responded.
Speaker 1: I thought he regulated their snaps very well, didn't use
Speaker 1: the first line offensive guys that much on Thursday. But
Speaker 1: they played on Saturday. So Tyrn Smith's out there, Leale
Speaker 1: Collins out there, Zach Martin's out there. You know, that
Speaker 1: offensive line looked the way it was supposed to look.
Speaker 1: I thought that was huge. It's huge for Garrett Gilbert
Speaker 1: to get some protection and actually operate the offense. And
Speaker 1: then defensively, I thought, you know, they kind of held
Speaker 1: their own against the Rams. They played their pop quarterback
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford was out there slinging it around. We weren't
Speaker 1: sure how much he was gonna do after he kind
Speaker 1: of irritated his thumb that had been bothering him. But
Speaker 1: he was out there and he was slinging it, and
Speaker 1: you know, he completed some passes, but they broke up
Speaker 1: some passes, uh, to the point that at one point, uh,
Speaker 1: DeShawn Jackson got p owed uh because of um. I
Speaker 1: think it was Jordan Lewis like broke up a pass
Speaker 1: and and he came up and he swung at the
Speaker 1: air and it's like, oh, okay, I guess he's pissed.
Speaker 1: And then he plays later they connected on about a
Speaker 1: forty yard touchdown plays, you know, and and he got
Speaker 1: all fired up about it. But that's good. You gotta
Speaker 1: go against guys like that. And I thought it was
Speaker 1: really good work. Uh, and as Rob said, they were
Speaker 1: off yesterday, but they're just basically doing meetings and weights
Speaker 1: and stuff today and then the walk through tomorrow, uh
Speaker 1: and and more meetings and so really just one more
Speaker 1: practice here, right, they're supposed I think they're supposed to
Speaker 1: do something maybe Thursday before they actually leave. Correct. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be like a we won't be able
Speaker 1: to we won't see it. Doubtful it's much of anything,
Speaker 1: because they got a game the next it'll be a
Speaker 1: meeting on the field. Yeah, and they've got a mock
Speaker 1: game walk through tomorrow, which I think we get to
Speaker 1: take a peek at, yes, which we have not done
Speaker 1: so far in camp. So that's it's not excited about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something what are we gonna do with ourselves for
Speaker 1: three days? Right? The cards and the bonnuts will come out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean you said, oh boy, I guess
Speaker 1: he's pissed. I said that about Aaron Donald about three
Speaker 1: or four times in that practice on Saturday. So how
Speaker 1: about Connor Williams, the People's champ. Yes, fans are loving this, like,
Speaker 1: you know, not backing down from two time Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year winning some reps against him in order
Speaker 1: to get him to kind of the edge of being
Speaker 1: a bit frustrated. Yep. And I think Donald was trying
Speaker 1: to say, hey, don't you know who I am? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you if you go back and watch
Speaker 1: some of the times they've played the Rams, he he's
Speaker 1: done some good things against him. And I know, you
Speaker 1: know the knock people knock Connor Williams for maybe his
Speaker 1: strength and sometimes he gets overmatched a little bit physically
Speaker 1: at the guard position. But I thought that was a
Speaker 1: good example of him holding his own in some of
Speaker 1: those reps because you know, Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Donald, those
Speaker 1: are two of the best players you're ever gonna go
Speaker 1: against the season that their respective position. So, like Mickey said,
Speaker 1: like that, that is good quality work against somebody beside
Speaker 1: your own guys early in camp. And kind of to
Speaker 1: add on to that, it wasn't even just the offense
Speaker 1: that got great work against defensive players. I mean, outside
Speaker 1: of Tom Brady and maybe Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford is
Speaker 1: up there in terms of quarterbacks that can pick a
Speaker 1: part of secondary no doubt, with the way that he
Speaker 1: controls a game and he throws the football and his
Speaker 1: talent level and his IQ of the game. And I
Speaker 1: think that was a great task for guys going up
Speaker 1: against Robert Woods, Cooper, cub Deshaun Jackson with Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: throwing then the football. I think the Cowboys secondary really
Speaker 1: grew a little bit on Saturday, Mickey, because that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily what they've seen with guys like Garrett Gilbert and
Speaker 1: Ben di Nucci a quarterback. Maybe with Dak in the
Speaker 1: middle of practices, but Matthew Stafford and those three guys
Speaker 1: were a great new challenge, and I think the defense
Speaker 1: grew from it. See, and that's one of the downsides
Speaker 1: of Dak being out. You know, you look at all
Speaker 1: he's not working with the offense, he's not working with
Speaker 1: the receivers, while the defense is not getting to work
Speaker 1: against the top notch quarterback. And you would like to
Speaker 1: see that. And yeah, and I thought they got some
Speaker 1: good work against him. They made some plays. He got
Speaker 1: them a couple of times. You mentioned a cup, they
Speaker 1: lost him, tracked of him a couple of plays, and
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, number ten, you bought it might pretty
Speaker 1: good cover him, right, But but other than a few
Speaker 1: times like that, I thought the secondary played well at times.
Speaker 1: The defensive front got a little pressure on him, and
Speaker 1: the Rams offensive lines pretty good. So it was good
Speaker 1: work for Randy Gregory to go up against somebody else
Speaker 1: door AND's armstrong. Uh So yeah, I just thought it
Speaker 1: was a really good day of work for them. And
Speaker 1: like Rob said, other than the little dust up with
Speaker 1: Aaron Dontal and Connor Williams, Yeah, it was a yeah,
Speaker 1: it was and it got competitive and that was good
Speaker 1: because that's what you want to see because this team
Speaker 1: needs to gain you can't be like swagger confidence. You
Speaker 1: got to gain confidence that you can do this right.
Speaker 1: And I think that helped. I think it helped playing
Speaker 1: the game on Thursday, and and it helped again uh Saturday. So,
Speaker 1: as Mike McCarthy said, good forty eight hours, it was.
Speaker 1: We were laughing about the picture on Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: Com of the of the dust up with Connor and
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and there's it's a wide shot and you
Speaker 1: can see Dak like ten yards away in the end
Speaker 1: zone just kind of watching kind of look at it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's like yeah, just stay stay over there,
Speaker 1: stay over there. You guys, don't go anywhere. Guys take
Speaker 1: care of this. I'll just kind of go go stand
Speaker 1: behind the porta patio over there by the fence, and
Speaker 1: you know, everything will be okay. Actually, see the lamp
Speaker 1: said the same thing. He's like, I just go the
Speaker 1: other way. If it's two linemen going at it, what
Speaker 1: am I gonna do? You know? So, yeah, that was good. Um,
Speaker 1: but that Rams till I'm telling you you look at
Speaker 1: this early projection of the NFC, and obviously Bucks Packers,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers back, the Rams are gonna be in the
Speaker 1: conversation with no doubt about it because they've got you
Speaker 1: had Matt stafford to that group and what they have defensively,
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna be in the mix if they can
Speaker 1: stay healthy, even though they're dealing with an injury at
Speaker 1: running back themselves. And that was a good point about
Speaker 1: Dak because if you look at the it wasn't a
Speaker 1: dust up. It was a brawl amongst themselves, the giants.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones jumped in there, did he? Oh yeah, he
Speaker 1: was one of the headlines, and and and and and
Speaker 1: that was some of the backlash after It's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand, I'm the quarterback. I'm not supposed to go
Speaker 1: get involved in it. It's like, yeah, you think, it's like,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? It was almost like what
Speaker 1: we saw later in practice. There was another little scuffle.
Speaker 1: It never got nearly to the point of the Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald and Connor Williams dust up, but Tony Pollard, with
Speaker 1: a carry to the near sideline, was kind of in
Speaker 1: a tussle with Kenny Young, the young linebacker from LA
Speaker 1: and Young. It looked like they got a little tangled
Speaker 1: up on the sideline after the play, and Young actually
Speaker 1: threw hands at the face mask of Tony Pollard, and
Speaker 1: Pollard of course reacted accordingly. And Sean McVeigh was the
Speaker 1: one that got in between and that one, and so
Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of interesting as well. But
Speaker 1: you know, and they they they roughed up Pollard a
Speaker 1: couple of times early in the practice, and it was
Speaker 1: uncalled for because they had already thudded up. And then
Speaker 1: somebody came from his blind spot and just blasted him.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of those ladies. See, I don't
Speaker 1: think he decided, okay, that's enough. I was on set
Speaker 1: with Kyle for most of the broadcast. When I got
Speaker 1: out there a team. There were times when we were
Speaker 1: watching kind of the red zone seven on seven stuff,
Speaker 1: it didn't seem like it was just full competitive. It
Speaker 1: was I'm not saying half speed, but it wasn't as
Speaker 1: as live or close to live you might expect. And
Speaker 1: then the team's drills though, were really good, really good,
Speaker 1: and there were some times out there where there was
Speaker 1: maybe a little more excess physicality from the Rams in
Speaker 1: terms of the thud that Mike and they chose who
Speaker 1: they were going to hit because they didn't do that
Speaker 1: to Zeke. Yeah, right, but when they saw twenty and
Speaker 1: thirty four and thirty seven, it was like it was
Speaker 1: like open game, right, and it's like, okay, I know
Speaker 1: what's going on. Defense had their fair share of licks
Speaker 1: on guys like Darryl Henderson as well, and I think
Speaker 1: they did a nice job of covering Robert Woods. But
Speaker 1: I do want to stick with the offense here. Going
Speaker 1: back to the offensive line, I thought the work from
Speaker 1: the offensive line and what they showed against a good
Speaker 1: Rams defensive front, especially with Aaron Donald in the fray,
Speaker 1: for the most part, held their own with Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: out there, and if Aaron Donald was out there or
Speaker 1: was not out there. I felt like they were pretty good,
Speaker 1: to say the least. It wasn't even just average or
Speaker 1: holding their own. I thought even some of the second
Speaker 1: and third string offensive lines really showed out on Saturday,
Speaker 1: Rob What did you see from the offensive front and
Speaker 1: the reps that you got to look at? Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I thought it was good. Um. Like you said, I thought,
Speaker 1: once you get once you get them the group whole,
Speaker 1: they can be very productive together as a group. And
Speaker 1: and so they've they've kind of been missing that full
Speaker 1: five at times. In practice. They've been holding Zach Allison reps.
Speaker 1: They've been holding h Tyrn Smith at times. And Connor
Speaker 1: Williams we mentioned him earlier. He got some center reps
Speaker 1: with the first team, and that's that's gonna help him
Speaker 1: get better at that position, even if he's not projected
Speaker 1: as the starter there. I know that people are talking
Speaker 1: about what does this mean. They're trying to find depth
Speaker 1: at that position, They're trying to find a backup plan
Speaker 1: with Tyler Biadis, you know, going into a second year
Speaker 1: and Joe Looney not being here. I thought that was
Speaker 1: good work for him. And so, you know, offensively, they
Speaker 1: did a lot of good things Ceedee Lamb carried over
Speaker 1: what he's been doing out here to this practice with
Speaker 1: another team going at him out here in oxen Hard
Speaker 1: and I thought it was Michael Gallup's best practice a
Speaker 1: camp as well. I think, you know, if if if
Speaker 1: people want to know what does that mean, all they
Speaker 1: need to be asked is who's the backup center? Because
Speaker 1: they won't have an answer. But you know what I mean, No,
Speaker 1: I know what they're thinking. You know, I know what
Speaker 1: they're thinking. See it in practice, be honest. Is really
Speaker 1: good by the way, Yeah, and he's doing nothing wrong
Speaker 1: to the point they need they need a backup center.
Speaker 1: And if they can pull this off with Connor Williams,
Speaker 1: then not only do you save money against the salary cap,
Speaker 1: you save a roster spot on the game day roster
Speaker 1: because you don't have to have one guy a backup
Speaker 1: center and another guy the backup guard. But if you
Speaker 1: can get somebody to do two things like they got
Speaker 1: spoiled with with Joe Looney being backup center, backup guard,
Speaker 1: and you only have to keep seven offensive linemen up. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's beneficial. Now will it work? And they were
Speaker 1: not going to find out if it works until they
Speaker 1: give him some first team reps against a first team defense.
Speaker 1: Uh and see if he can if he actually can
Speaker 1: pull this off, because we saw in the in the
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame game, he had a high
Speaker 1: snap one time and it's screwed up to play, and
Speaker 1: then another time he threw a knuckleball back there. I
Speaker 1: didn't think that the snap was ever gonna get to
Speaker 1: Garrett Gilbert. Right And and speaking of Connor Williams, he's
Speaker 1: walking towards his room right now, conn And uh so, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gotta you know, he's got to get used to
Speaker 1: keep yelling about those high snaps. Yeah right, yeah, come
Speaker 1: and squash me right, Oh goodness. But yeah, so he's
Speaker 1: got to get those reps and see if he can
Speaker 1: do it, because if he can't, then who's the backup center? Well,
Speaker 1: if Arni act doesn't at times look like he's ready
Speaker 1: physically to do this, I think it's safe to say
Speaker 1: he's not physically ready as a seventh round rookie. Would
Speaker 1: you expect him to be? Now he was playing guard.
Speaker 1: He played a little center at Nebraska, tiny bit, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they moved him over there, and we'll see if
Speaker 1: you can do it and then Braylon Jones is an
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie from Houston, right, I thought it would be
Speaker 1: potentially Connor McGovern just based on how much he played.
Speaker 1: He played center at Penn State way more than farni
Speaker 1: Ac or Connor Williams had one year though, I know,
Speaker 1: but he's done it. And that's why last year I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, if Joe Looney's not resigned, he's the natural
Speaker 1: fit to slide in as kind of that swing interior backup,
Speaker 1: and they've just kept him at guard and let him
Speaker 1: worry about that and try to progress there, because when
Speaker 1: you think about it, for him, he's had this is
Speaker 1: his first full offseason as an NFL player. True, maybe
Speaker 1: part of it is just let him focus on getting
Speaker 1: better at that position. I thought it was gonna be
Speaker 1: Joe Looney. I still thought he would come back and
Speaker 1: they would have to sign him to be the backup center.
Speaker 1: And then he goes to the Giants and realize, I
Speaker 1: don't like dude this anymore. I'm gonna retire, And it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: any media retire gets your thirty Come on, gosh, So
Speaker 1: Joe probably didn't like all the running Judge makes him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. What do we do? He was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm good. It's like, JG, what are you doing? What?
Speaker 1: I gotta run here? I thought I was just coming
Speaker 1: to be the backup center. So, I mean, this has
Speaker 1: been a conversation throughout the time in OXNARNT, throughout the
Speaker 1: off season about the potential of Connor Williams making that
Speaker 1: switch to center. But I don't know if I've ever
Speaker 1: asked this question, and both of you can answer, but
Speaker 1: I'll start with Mickey here. How tough of a transition
Speaker 1: is that? From a guard who has played sole guard
Speaker 1: the entirety of his career, college, high school doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Now he's in the NFL, he's gotta make a switch
Speaker 1: from guard to center. That seems like it's a tougher
Speaker 1: switch than a lot of people might look at and
Speaker 1: see you on paper. Well, I think the tougher part
Speaker 1: is is now you've got to control everything you know.
Speaker 1: You gotta know what the defense is doing, and you
Speaker 1: gotta make the line calls for everybody. So you really
Speaker 1: got to have a good concept of what's going on.
Speaker 1: And then you know they're gonna line somebody right up
Speaker 1: on your head and hit you as soon as you
Speaker 1: snap the ball and you got to be ready to go. Now,
Speaker 1: can it be done? Mark Stepnoski was a guard at
Speaker 1: at pitt And and the Cowboys turned him into a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl center, so he was it can be done,
Speaker 1: but I think it's not done overnight. Um. As a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, you know step was a Pro Bowl center. Well,
Speaker 1: his rookie year, he didn't start a game until they
Speaker 1: were probably one in ten, and they put him in.
Speaker 1: They put him in at center because they knew that
Speaker 1: was kind of where they were going to go with him.
Speaker 1: Well what a year. Yeah, thanks, it was. It was
Speaker 1: eight and nine before they won that game on Sunday night,
Speaker 1: and of course they would win the only game of
Speaker 1: the year on Sunday night. Uh, when we were right
Speaker 1: on deadline, right and in an old RFK with a
Speaker 1: press box that was so crowded, we were sitting like
Speaker 1: this right too, because so there wasn't enough room to
Speaker 1: stretch out because my shoulders were so big. You've told
Speaker 1: me many times you were for an O and sixteen.
Speaker 1: I wanted history. I said, well, I'm gonna cover history
Speaker 1: here the first year I have this team on my own.
Speaker 1: And then they win a game and I'm going, now,
Speaker 1: it's just a bad season. Rob. Would you think about
Speaker 1: the switch? Mickey nailed it. I mean it comes down
Speaker 1: to your the quarterback upfront, pre snap, you make all
Speaker 1: the adjustments, you get everybody in the right checks. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a difficult transition for him, because
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy spoke about it the other day. They train
Speaker 1: the guards in the centers the same way, so and
Speaker 1: he's been in this system for three years, so he
Speaker 1: knows what's going on. It's not like he's coming in.
Speaker 1: It's not like Matt Farniac's trying to do this. You're
Speaker 1: one first camp. I don't worry about that so much.
Speaker 1: I think what Mickey said, it's also it's it's the
Speaker 1: added element of having to snap the ball and then
Speaker 1: you've got somebody right in your face. I'm sure that's
Speaker 1: an adjustment as well, but I don't I think from
Speaker 1: a pre snap standpoint, I think it's something he can handle.
Speaker 1: He's been around for a while. And think about from
Speaker 1: a physical standpoint, there's a reason why, unlike snaps for kicks,
Speaker 1: that they've changed the rule and you can't line head
Speaker 1: up on the on the deep snapper. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you got to beat to the side, and why are
Speaker 1: they doing that for safety? Well, on defense, they can
Speaker 1: put a four hundred pound guy on your head, right
Speaker 1: right on top, and then it just pound the heck
Speaker 1: out of you as you after you snap the ball.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's this and then you got to come
Speaker 1: up and do this, and it's not easy. In terms
Speaker 1: of the timing. I feel like it's a it's vastly
Speaker 1: different compared to what it looks like on paper, because
Speaker 1: I mean, whenever you're watching film and whenever you're actually
Speaker 1: looking at the play, it looks like a guy just
Speaker 1: doing the same thing, except you have to snap the ball.
Speaker 1: Then you have to readjust yourself and then make a
Speaker 1: block immediately with a one technique or a zerotique technique
Speaker 1: right over the top of here. So you're you're concerned
Speaker 1: about that position. And then once again it reared its
Speaker 1: ugly head in the Hall of Fame game, you're concerned
Speaker 1: about who's that swing tackle. I was just it's a
Speaker 1: bigger question. Didn't come in. Can't play that left tackle
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Speaker 1: here we go, going right into your question. Jake asked,
Speaker 1: have you seen Terrence Steele on the left side at all?
Speaker 1: Reporting on Inseci and seeing his limited snaps against Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: is troubling in his opinion, hashtag Mickey who is the
Speaker 1: swing tackle? Way don't know yet. It has not emerged
Speaker 1: as a definitive person. Uh Nasecki struggled at left tackle
Speaker 1: in the game against Pittsburgh unlimited time, Unlimited time and
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's out there and you know he's
Speaker 1: a veteran. They're not going to overdo it. But they
Speaker 1: got to first and goal at the five and second
Speaker 1: down and third down he missed his blocks. Uh, and
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, don't tell me, we're we're still here
Speaker 1: with the camms, right, Cam Irving and Cam Fleming that
Speaker 1: they've both hammed out. And so Steele has primarily played
Speaker 1: right side on the second team at tackle, but he
Speaker 1: did get some snaps on the left side. And then
Speaker 1: the other problem there is you drafted a guy in
Speaker 1: the fourth round, Josh Ball, and it sounds like he
Speaker 1: must have a high ankle sprain because when McCarthy talked
Speaker 1: about his ankle, he said, yeah, he'll probably be out
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. So normally, if it's just a
Speaker 1: regular ankle sprain, usually it's not a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: So he said maybe Houston, Yeah maybe, but it didn't
Speaker 1: sound he didn't sound hopeful. He said multiple weeks. And
Speaker 1: he's he's been out for about a week now, yes, so,
Speaker 1: and we haven't seen him. It's not like he's walking
Speaker 1: out there watching practice. So he's getting you know, rehab therapy.
Speaker 1: So the odds of him winning this job is pretty
Speaker 1: remote at this point. And you know when and what
Speaker 1: you're hoping is if they have to bring in another tackle,
Speaker 1: that they protect that guy. And I don't just say okay,
Speaker 1: you got the job like they started last year and
Speaker 1: it's like, no, you got to put a tight end
Speaker 1: over there. And then, to me, the answer I can
Speaker 1: give the guy is, in my books, if something happens
Speaker 1: to Tyran and else, Zack Martin's going out the tackle immediately, immediately.
Speaker 1: I ain't waiting ten weeks before I put him out there,
Speaker 1: right or however long they waited before they made that change.
Speaker 1: And I think the reason they somewhat waited is they
Speaker 1: still hadn't had confidence in mcgoverning to take care of
Speaker 1: the guard spot. But once he came along and they said, okay,
Speaker 1: look he's a better guard than whoever I'm putting out
Speaker 1: at tackle, and so we can move Zach out there.
Speaker 1: And so to me, that's the answer to the question
Speaker 1: right now. I want to disagree with you, but my
Speaker 1: answers in stone. It's on the website right now. That
Speaker 1: was the mail bad question today and I said, same thing,
Speaker 1: Zach is the best option. You know, if you especially
Speaker 1: if we're talking about a long term absence, God forbid
Speaker 1: at one of the tackle spots at some point in
Speaker 1: the season. McCarthy didn't want to do it. Last year,
Speaker 1: he finally did it, and you know what, the line
Speaker 1: played its best that it had at any point in
Speaker 1: that season. In the running game, there was about a
Speaker 1: three game stretch where they were getting about one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty yards rushing per game before Zach got hurt
Speaker 1: again on Thanksgiving, So that solid thinks because and give
Speaker 1: credit to Connor McGovern because he stepped in it right
Speaker 1: guard and did a nice job. So Mickey's right, it's
Speaker 1: about kind of trying to get your best five out there,
Speaker 1: and if you do have to change out two spots,
Speaker 1: then fine. If we're if we're basing it off of
Speaker 1: the current backup swing tackle options, I would still have
Speaker 1: to give the edge to tightness sec he just based
Speaker 1: on experience. You know, he's thirty six years old, he's
Speaker 1: been doing this a long time. Tarre Steele, I think
Speaker 1: is getting better. I think we've seen some things signs
Speaker 1: that he's improving. But I would have to give the
Speaker 1: edge to the veteran there but yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: not setting Stone by any means. And then the other
Speaker 1: guy that they've used is Brandon Knight, but only because
Speaker 1: they were down a tackle. They needed another tackle to
Speaker 1: help out, so they've moved him because he was getting them,
Speaker 1: getting the majority of his snaps as a guard. They
Speaker 1: were trying to give him a chance to make it
Speaker 1: as a guard, and then when they lost ball, it
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, we're short on tackles. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to take some snaps second or third team at tackle.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean, gosh, you know, last year
Speaker 1: was just unbelievable that you were trying to exist at
Speaker 1: the tackle position with an undrafted rookie and a second
Speaker 1: year guy who had played basically two games in the
Speaker 1: NFL previously gotten one start. Yeah, one start, right, and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that's almost like throwing your hands up.
Speaker 1: And a backup quarterba and a backup quarterback, and the
Speaker 1: backup to the backup quarterback. It was a nightmare, a
Speaker 1: nightmare for Kellen Moore. I'm sure I will I will say,
Speaker 1: you know a couple of those two red zone trips
Speaker 1: that Garrett Gilbert had a couple of those players. You
Speaker 1: might you could nitpick and say you got to have
Speaker 1: a clock in your head and get the ball out.
Speaker 1: It's true, but yeah, the protection was not cleaning that game,
Speaker 1: and it, honestly it got a little bit worse. I
Speaker 1: think as they went down the depth chart at quarterback
Speaker 1: in that game. One extra thing to Jake's point whenever
Speaker 1: he said limited snaps for Tian Saki during the Pittsburgh game,
Speaker 1: And I kind of mentioned this in passing, but I
Speaker 1: looked further into it, and I know how we all
Speaker 1: feel about Pro Football focus in their grades quote unquote
Speaker 1: because they're not normally the best, but I still think
Speaker 1: this says something about the game that Tian Saki had.
Speaker 1: He had seven pass blocking snaps. His grade at the
Speaker 1: end of the game was a zero point zero grade,
Speaker 1: which means out of the seven snaps that he had,
Speaker 1: he had the worst possible grade that you could potentially
Speaker 1: have on PFF, which is saying something, yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a struggle. And teren Steele, by the way, was a
Speaker 1: sixty six point four in terms of and there was
Speaker 1: one I think I think Gilbert took a three step drop.
Speaker 1: But even if it's a three step drop, the guy
Speaker 1: was on him steps. I agree, And then the other
Speaker 1: time he didn't pick up the guy that was blitzing.
Speaker 1: It's like, you're a veteran, you should know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Got to know to be able to slide out. Then
Speaker 1: you see that blitzing linebacker. I believe is what it was. Okay,
Speaker 1: And you know when when you look at those things,
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is look at to see how
Speaker 1: much they got paid, because the contract will tell you
Speaker 1: what they think. To the guy, I'm sorry, and he's
Speaker 1: basically on a veteran minimum and he's thirty six years old,
Speaker 1: so it's not like, Okay, he's making so much money.
Speaker 1: We gotta keep him right. It's the same thing at
Speaker 1: the safety position. Not to stray away, but most of
Speaker 1: those guys they brought in, they're all on one year
Speaker 1: deals for basically minimum with a minimum signing bonus. Look
Speaker 1: just as much as they stuck with Terrence Steele last year,
Speaker 1: you gotta think they feel like he can do this
Speaker 1: eventually and get better and better. So you know, maybe
Speaker 1: they may be crossing their fingers that he can just
Speaker 1: continue to get better in these practices and win the job.
Speaker 1: You know, as a second year guy that they've invested in.
Speaker 1: We'll see. I mean, na Seki has way more experience,
Speaker 1: and there they will keep an eye out. I'm sure
Speaker 1: once the final cuts happen. The problem is, if you've
Speaker 1: got a good backup tackle, he's not going anywhere. They
Speaker 1: are hard to find, just you know, just off the couch.
Speaker 1: I go back to Michael Irvin talking about the backup
Speaker 1: tackle and he goes, can you just stand there and
Speaker 1: let me count? One? Two three? That's all you gotta do, right,
Speaker 1: One two three? Like that? And they couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he was remarking about Chaz Green, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, he was on that Pittsburgh roster. Is
Speaker 1: he yes? Okay, Mickey, you mentioned the one year deals
Speaker 1: for some of those guys in the secondary at safety.
Speaker 1: Our next question, John asked, do we see Malie Hooker
Speaker 1: in pads this week and potentially does he get some
Speaker 1: snaps against the Cardinals on Friday. I can't imagine that
Speaker 1: he would get one practice in pads and they'd throw
Speaker 1: him in the game on Friday, because all they only
Speaker 1: he hasn't done it yet, right, and the only chance
Speaker 1: you got is Wednesday? Agree and he's coming off a
Speaker 1: torn achilles so um, which, by the way, I was
Speaker 1: watching Keyan O'Neill and Demante Kazy warming up for those
Speaker 1: the practice against the Rams, and they were doing their
Speaker 1: achilles stretching things. Still out there three guys that have
Speaker 1: had that injury. Yeah, yeah, I mean he may they're
Speaker 1: ramping him up. He didn't practice against the Rams, but
Speaker 1: he's he's doing more field work and so if he
Speaker 1: doesn't practice Wednesday, I would think he's back in there
Speaker 1: on some level by the time they get back from
Speaker 1: Oxnarn But yeah, I don't. I don't expect him to
Speaker 1: play against Arizona. Sticking with the secondary Bluff City Cowboys
Speaker 1: who always ask great questions. By the way, with the
Speaker 1: close battle at the cornerback position, does special team's ability
Speaker 1: give guys like c J. Goodwin an advantage over guys
Speaker 1: fighting for the fifth and maybe sixth spots overall? CJ's
Speaker 1: on this team as a special teams guy. I mean
Speaker 1: he's listed as a corner but and he does take
Speaker 1: some reps there, but he's he's basically a captain on
Speaker 1: special teams. There is talk though, of Maurice Kennedy being
Speaker 1: just as talented in terms of special teams were Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, Maurice Kennedy has started games in the league.
Speaker 1: It's a good point at cornerback, and I think maybe
Speaker 1: people forget that a little bit. You know, he's been
Speaker 1: mostly a reserve. But that being said, he's probably the
Speaker 1: biggest surprise of camp. You know, take out CD and
Speaker 1: just how spectacular he's been. I mean that doesn't really
Speaker 1: not really a surprise, that's no expectation, but I mean
Speaker 1: the level that he's been has been as unbelievable at times.
Speaker 1: But in terms of a guy who's really jumped out
Speaker 1: at you, yes, he's got to be right there. And
Speaker 1: I think to answer the guy's question is don't coin CG, CG,
Speaker 1: CJ in the number of corners you keep. He's in
Speaker 1: a category of his own. It's special teams. You know,
Speaker 1: you put him over there, uh, and then find the
Speaker 1: next corner. So if you're looking at corners right now,
Speaker 1: you know, Kennedy's probably the fourth guy in my books,
Speaker 1: if you're looking at it from way, he's performed in
Speaker 1: the slot, and he does have some special team skills. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Calvin Joseph is coming along. But I don't
Speaker 1: know that he has shown out to the point where,
Speaker 1: uh you know, he's the next man up at the
Speaker 1: cornerback position. Who is one, two and three? You said
Speaker 1: he's fourth. I just wanted to ask that, see who
Speaker 1: you're one. So I still think it's it's it's uh
Speaker 1: Dick Brown and George Lewis and and no challenge from Canna.
Speaker 1: Well here's a well a little bit. But I think this.
Speaker 1: They didn't play Jordan Lewis in the Hall of Fame game,
Speaker 1: not at all. And he hasn't practice a ton either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's a reason he wasn't out there because I
Speaker 1: think they just like Donovan Wilson. I think they think, Okay,
Speaker 1: we know who they are, we got to find out
Speaker 1: to find the next guy. Uh and and so um,
Speaker 1: I think they're still And Jordan Lewis was back out
Speaker 1: there working with the first team during the practice, held
Speaker 1: his own and held his own so uh you know,
Speaker 1: and they paid him a little bit of money, so
Speaker 1: they got to see that one through. Um from a
Speaker 1: salary cap standard, here's thirteen and a half million. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so seven's trying to make this team as maybe the
Speaker 1: next guy that can go in the slot. You know,
Speaker 1: and Anthy Brown can play in the slot too, by
Speaker 1: the way, he has started games there. So if somebody
Speaker 1: gets hurt, you know, they can they can put him
Speaker 1: in there, or Kennedy in there, or they can put
Speaker 1: Brown in there if one of the other corners steps up.
Speaker 1: But I don't know that Joseph or Nishan Wright have
Speaker 1: stepped up enough to suggest they're the next guy up. Mickey, Mickey,
Speaker 1: you're looking at it kind of what the depth chart
Speaker 1: should look like week one, Yeah, September ninth, And I
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you, but if I'm ranking just based
Speaker 1: off our eyes out here the cornerbacks, it's Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 1: and then it's Maurice Kennedy for me, just in terms
Speaker 1: of the plays he's made. And you know, if this
Speaker 1: keeps up, I don't know how you keep him off
Speaker 1: the field. And that's not to say Anthony Brown has
Speaker 1: had a good camp. He's done some really nice things
Speaker 1: out here. We haven't seen a lot of Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: because you know, he's been dealing with a little bit
Speaker 1: of an injury. But you know, and Kelvin Joseph has flashed,
Speaker 1: Nashan Right has flashed a little bit. But Maurice Candy
Speaker 1: makes a play in every practice. If it's not a pick,
Speaker 1: he makes a play on the ball and from that
Speaker 1: slap position. But they haven't played him outside. Well maybe
Speaker 1: they don't have to, you know, maybe that's his role.
Speaker 1: But what if one of those What I was looking
Speaker 1: at is what if somebody outside gets hurt, who's the
Speaker 1: next corner that's going in. It's probably Kelvin Joseph. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he needs to pick it up. You know, he
Speaker 1: looks like a second round rookie right now. And Nashan
Speaker 1: Wright it looks like a little final pick in the
Speaker 1: third round rookie. Um. So the game, yeah, because this
Speaker 1: guy was catching passes. It's a good point that we
Speaker 1: kind of pulled that up during draft coverage. I think
Speaker 1: when he faced Simi Phoko, it was like, oh, he
Speaker 1: led the led organ state and tackles against Stanford. Oh wait,
Speaker 1: it's because Semi Fajoko kind of torched him on multiple
Speaker 1: occasions and he tackled him down the field a little
Speaker 1: bit more, got to the end zone, right, yeah, tackle
Speaker 1: game right? He performance in that game? Yeah? Uh, any
Speaker 1: surprise veterans that need to have a big next couple
Speaker 1: of weeks before roster trimmed downs surprise veterans. I mean
Speaker 1: that's kind of I don't know about surprise. We mentioned
Speaker 1: t a job is up for grabs based on what
Speaker 1: we've seen. Um, that's a good question. I mean there's
Speaker 1: no veteran that I mean, it's like, oh, if they
Speaker 1: don't do this, they're getting cut. You know. The only
Speaker 1: the only place I would think they're could be some
Speaker 1: competition is the fourth and fifth wide receiver just from
Speaker 1: a cap standpoint, and neither Noah Brown or Cedric Wilson
Speaker 1: are making that much money. I think they're both at
Speaker 1: like two million two point one, Yeah, two point one.
Speaker 1: So it's not like you're gonna save a bunch of money.
Speaker 1: You'll save a million, But that's not worth cutting somebody
Speaker 1: for a cap reason. I just think there's been a
Speaker 1: gap between four and five and then six, right, I
Speaker 1: mean they've both been productive in camp, in the game,
Speaker 1: special teams. Yeah, because the league turner will show up
Speaker 1: and many you'll disappears appear the same thing with those
Speaker 1: serious Mitchell. Yes, I mean overall those two have continued
Speaker 1: to be consistent. These guys are chasing. Yeah, it's hard
Speaker 1: to see either guy not making this team. So that's
Speaker 1: other than that. I mean, there's no veteran on the
Speaker 1: offense that's going to get knocked out of there, right, Well,
Speaker 1: you've got all your starters returning, Yeah, I mean they're
Speaker 1: I mean you go down the depth chart, there's some
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback position, what you know, Yeah, but they're
Speaker 1: not really veterans. Garret Gilbert has been around. He's still
Speaker 1: competing against the rest of the league, right, you know,
Speaker 1: and and I think he's had some good days lately
Speaker 1: because somebody else would have to show up on a
Speaker 1: waiver wire that got your attention, and you know that's
Speaker 1: that's a couple of weeks away. With their budget too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: with their butt their budget, which you have to factor in. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go down the roster and see, I
Speaker 1: mean I think, you know, the safety position to me
Speaker 1: is still interesting. You know, they signed Curse in the
Speaker 1: off season. Yes, somebody in there is not gonna make it.
Speaker 1: You know, what what do they do there? Israel Mquamu.
Speaker 1: You know, I would think makes this team. But how
Speaker 1: many safeties can you keep? You know that that's an
Speaker 1: interesting spot too, Yeah, because think about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if you went low on safeties, Kean O'Neil can
Speaker 1: still move back there and play right good. But can
Speaker 1: you keep Kazy Curse and Malite Cooker I guess, and
Speaker 1: then Donovan Wilson and Mukuamo who I guess you can?
Speaker 1: He can flex, he could positions? Is that five that
Speaker 1: I just yes? Read off five? So you can keep
Speaker 1: five safeties and they got to wait on corners. You
Speaker 1: keep it, and they're gonna have to wait on Hooker
Speaker 1: to see what he can do. I mean, it's no
Speaker 1: joke coming back from that rupture Achilles. No, after taking
Speaker 1: time off and not really having an offseason working on
Speaker 1: your own. Yeah, I mean coming in and having training
Speaker 1: camp would be nice. But like you said and we
Speaker 1: answered in the first question, it's not really uh not
Speaker 1: really possible for him to maybe get out there at
Speaker 1: least during the camp portion that's in Oxnard. And obviously
Speaker 1: the numbers that inside a defensive tackle are strong. But
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, they have that option to just keep him
Speaker 1: on pup to start the season. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: keep him in there hip pocket, so you know, it's
Speaker 1: not a situation where, oh he might get cut they can,
Speaker 1: they can keep him on pup um. I don't ready.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. And I want to bring this
Speaker 1: up because I don't think this would happen, But I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people listening would maybe initially
Speaker 1: their first thought would be a guy like Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: There's no way that happens until later down the road,
Speaker 1: I mean, if it ever happens. Yeah, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a starter. I agree. Okay, was he perfect last year? No,
Speaker 1: but he made one hundred and fifty some tackles and
Speaker 1: and I see him more engaged this year, meaning he
Speaker 1: doesn't look like the independent contractor I would I thought
Speaker 1: he was. He's he's mingling with the team, he's he's
Speaker 1: patent guys on the back. He's being more of a
Speaker 1: leader instead of just being out there. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: now the only thing he's got to do is when
Speaker 1: they're down thirty to seven and he makes a big
Speaker 1: tackle and he does his little swipe thing. It's like,
Speaker 1: don't be celebrated your tackle in the context of what's
Speaker 1: going on with the team. There was an interesting point
Speaker 1: in the practice that we saw against the Rams, and
Speaker 1: we had actually had a replay of it because I
Speaker 1: thought it was so intriguing, but he made a really
Speaker 1: nice read on a run play. Darryl Henderson was rolling
Speaker 1: out to the right on a little sweep and Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith blewed up at the line of scrimmage might have
Speaker 1: been a tackle for loss, and he kind of kept
Speaker 1: running and he looked like he was gonna do the
Speaker 1: whole swipe. He even I mean, oh, he stopped and
Speaker 1: then even he just paused. He put his hands out,
Speaker 1: and then he walked away. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: a sign to come or if that's just him thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: it's practice. But at the same time, maybe it was
Speaker 1: a sign of saying, maybe the swipe is in the review,
Speaker 1: and he's playing way of saying selective swiping, selective swiping,
Speaker 1: and and he's playing the position he should be in.
Speaker 1: It's middle linebacker. He's not a weak side linebacker. Well, look,
Speaker 1: can't run and cover a running back or a tight end.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but when they opened up in
Speaker 1: their defense first snap against the Steelers, they had three linebackers.
Speaker 1: US did yeah, and he want three plays, Laden vander Esh,
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, Michael Parsons, And they're not going to do that.
Speaker 1: All the time, you know, and they've got enough enough
Speaker 1: versatility with the linebackers that they don't have to use
Speaker 1: him on the nickel if they don't want, like if
Speaker 1: it's a just definite passing situation, you know, he doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be out there now. If they want to
Speaker 1: play nickel and and it's still like second and you know,
Speaker 1: short or something, they can leave him out there against
Speaker 1: the run. I want to see him going forward. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see him going backwards like a middle linebacker.
Speaker 1: That's where you can do that. One other position. If
Speaker 1: we're talking about veterans, you know, what do they do
Speaker 1: at tight end? You know, Jeremy Sprinkle they signed him
Speaker 1: to be, you know, kind of that belldozer role. Sean
Speaker 1: mckun continues to make plays and he's no belldozer. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that. You know, the thing is, if
Speaker 1: Sean mccun steps in, is the third tight end, because
Speaker 1: that's the way things maybe progressing based on what we've
Speaker 1: seen out here, how do they use that? What does
Speaker 1: that mix look like? And and a lot of Louit
Speaker 1: at fullback could be an interesting fourth tight end slash
Speaker 1: extra running back h back do a little bit of everything. Now,
Speaker 1: if indeed that neck injury is not significant, go ahead.
Speaker 1: And we just found out that he's got a neck
Speaker 1: injury and it looked like it was going to take
Speaker 1: some time. So we'll find out maybe more about that.
Speaker 1: That cropped up when Sunday and we hadn't I asked
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy about it. It came out of the game.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yess he wasn't. I didn't see him out
Speaker 1: there against the Rams now, so I don't think he was.
Speaker 1: And Sprinkle, you know, for the body type he is,
Speaker 1: he's not what I thought he'd be, you know. And
Speaker 1: and he's he doesn't look like a guy that's going
Speaker 1: to do a lot of blocking for you. And your
Speaker 1: third tie in has to do some blocking and be
Speaker 1: able to get down the field and McKean has showed
Speaker 1: some ability to do that and he benefited from the
Speaker 1: time he got to play last year. It plays down
Speaker 1: the field as a pass cat. Ye, yes, a couple
Speaker 1: different times. So yes, And I don't look at I
Speaker 1: mean what year Sprinkle he was signed as a as
Speaker 1: a run block. That's that's really where he's made his
Speaker 1: money in the NFL. Six year guy, Yeah, something like
Speaker 1: that fifth. Yeah, it's your guy. I guess that makes
Speaker 1: him a veteran. Sure, I mean it's more of a
Speaker 1: veteran than Sean mckin. But I'm sure what did he
Speaker 1: sign a one year deal for millium? Yep, not a
Speaker 1: ton of money to trying to throw some names to
Speaker 1: get some guys to be surprise cuts. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take our second break when whenever we come back, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a look ahead at the week that is
Speaker 1: in store in Oxnard, the schedule for the Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: maybe even peak a little bit at the Arizona game
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Speaker 1: Cowboys back here on Talking Cowboys and Dallas Cowboys Training
Speaker 1: Camp returns to the Star in Frisco starting with Cowboys Night,
Speaker 1: presented by American Airlines on August sixteenth. Watch the Cowboys
Speaker 1: practice and enjoy free activities at the Star beginning at
Speaker 1: four pm. Fans have the chance to catch the three
Speaker 1: additional practices August twentieth, the twenty seventh, and the twenty eighth.
Speaker 1: Admission and parking are both free. Visit the Star in
Speaker 1: Frisco dot com for details. So the Cowboys returning to
Speaker 1: Oxnard starting next week after they take on the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals in preseason Week one return into Frisco. Oh did
Speaker 1: I say Oxnard? Yeah, okay, I'm in Frisco. See Oxnard's
Speaker 1: on the brain because you want to stay here. And
Speaker 1: the weather is so fantastic. I mean, I'm wearing long
Speaker 1: sleeves and pants and it's for or what is it
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock now. So my friends took me up to
Speaker 1: dinner last night and we ate outdoors. Nice downtown Ventura. Wow,
Speaker 1: tells you how nice it. I didn't get an invite.
Speaker 1: That's fine. It's been cold at night too, fog rolling
Speaker 1: it there was there was a little heat lamp above us.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's been. It's been not Texas. Did
Speaker 1: you know? Did you know have you been to Ventura
Speaker 1: yet this year? No? They have blocked off main Street.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a pedestrian walkway now because they have
Speaker 1: allowed sort of like they've done other places, They've allowed
Speaker 1: the restaurants to move right into the streets and put
Speaker 1: outdoor seating. That's great. That's a great little area. Yeah. There.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of how cool it is out there
Speaker 1: because Ventura, by the way, I'll give you a little
Speaker 1: travel report here. Uh, it's like we're going to a
Speaker 1: full hour today. It's like it's like in a it's
Speaker 1: like in a nineteen seventies time warp. That old downtown there,
Speaker 1: which they should not spoil. Uh, just kind of keep
Speaker 1: it that way. Don't bring in a bunch of condos.
Speaker 1: And uh, they've got local business. This is their places. Daughter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's not fired like it's three blocks from the
Speaker 1: water and it's just it's just a great little downtown.
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner's hometown, is it really yes? Wow, he came
Speaker 1: to practice a few years ago. He had a place,
Speaker 1: and I think it was in Carpentiera, which is right
Speaker 1: next to Ventura before you get to Santa Barbara. He had,
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, I think one year. The
Speaker 1: Joneses state that at his house. One year he was
Speaker 1: in town with his band playing while we were out here.
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner, Yes, it might. It might have been at
Speaker 1: the county the county fair. Yeah, that's so cool. And
Speaker 1: they didn't have a county fair this year. He's robbed
Speaker 1: Phillips on Kyle Yoman's this is talking Ventura here on
Speaker 1: Dallas couch dot com. Um, what are some of the
Speaker 1: things that we're looking forward to this week. I mean,
Speaker 1: of course, the preseason game is Friday. It's a really
Speaker 1: slow week compared to what we have had here in Oxnard.
Speaker 1: Just the one padded or we think it's going to
Speaker 1: be a padded practice on Wednesday, and they've only had
Speaker 1: five so far, correct, five or six? I bet if
Speaker 1: it is padded it'll be a lighter one lighter playing
Speaker 1: on on Friday. Um, what is something you need to
Speaker 1: see from this team this week going into well And
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about this except for him being a
Speaker 1: pedestrian watching Um, just where Dak Prescott is. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I got a better understanding of his injury, how it occurred, uh,
Speaker 1: and where it exactly is. And UM, so I could
Speaker 1: use Rob for my my model here today, don't it?
Speaker 1: But it's I'll do it on his left arm instead
Speaker 1: of his right arm. But the muscle he heard is
Speaker 1: right here. Okay. So there's a back muscle that comes
Speaker 1: up like this and there's a little ring of it
Speaker 1: and it ends up underneath your armpit. And evidently when
Speaker 1: and I remember seeing the throw, he had a weird
Speaker 1: like hill Mary throw where he threw the ball sky high,