1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Stan Lee's next coming look superhero. Welcome to what will 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: become the adventure of a life Jo Ron And for 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: the last four or five months, she's been having this 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: issue where it would intermittently go into a no start. 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: She turned the key, she'd have dashlights and nothing would happen. 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: That car Doctor, the car's almost fourteen years old, doesn't 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: have a lot of miles on it. I doubt the 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: switch is worn out. I think mama's arethritis is catching 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: up to her and she doesn't have the ability to 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: bang throw it into gear as hard as it once did. 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian the 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: I am here to take their calls at eight five 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: five five six, and now he running. Yes, happy songs, Hey, 18 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: welcome start your engines. A tip of the hat to 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: the great Roy Clark and Stanley in reverse order there, 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: but we we note they're passing and their accomplishments and 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: their contributions to the world and um um sad to 22 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: see them go, but it was a great time to 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: have them while they were here rondating the car doctor 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: actor at your at your car doctor at your It's 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: a new mouth, right, that's a new mouth to tell 26 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: you what time it was a It was a brutal 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: week this week. And I just I don't know, I 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, wow, I just you know here in the 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Northeast for those of you that are you know, on 30 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: the West coast or down there where snow is just 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: something you'll laugh about. Um. Thursday night was just an 32 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: insane night, and I don't think I've recovered from it yet. 33 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: We UM I had I had class Wednesday night about um, well, 34 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: let me let me. I'm gonna read tom. I'm gonna 35 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: read you the table of contents of this book. This 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: class I went to. I'm not saying it was cars. 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: Tell me what am I talking about? Repairing The table 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: of contents UM Chapter three is all about can single 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: and dual wire controlled area network bias and bias, bias 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: and determination and termination. UM. Section four is lynn structure 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: and Purpose scan tool when I gave it away, scan tool, 42 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: labscope test, my fixing the car, my fixing a radio station. Tom, 43 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Actually it sounds like you're fixing a computer network. UM. 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: And so this is a class UM a TG Automotive 45 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: Training Group, UH put on a class vehicle network diagnostic 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: strategies and UM I went to get uh, you know, 47 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: get schooled up on a matter of fact. One of 48 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: my case studies I had, Oh gosh, I guess it's 49 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: about seven eight months ago. I talked about the late 50 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: model Chevy Silverado pickup truck that had the the it 51 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: wouldn't shift out of gear, and it had no dash 52 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: display except the prindle park reverse draw of neutral display. UM. 53 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: It wouldn't communicate with the vehicle modules, certain modules where 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: certain modules wouldn't And it turned out to have a 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: bad ground at the right front cylinder head G one 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: oh three. Ground one oh three was missing. It had 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: been removed and located when the via remember that VIEA 58 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: that was back that was like March April. Well, I 59 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: know the guys at a t G, and I was 60 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: talking to them about it, and they liked the story 61 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: so much about what happened, they actually wrote it. It's 62 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: in the book. It's in it's in one of the 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: champions here somewhere. I came across it um a while back. 64 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: But so I'm supposed to do that. I did that 65 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: Wednesday night, and we're supposed to do that Thursday night. 66 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: And I looked at the road conditions and and I said, no, 67 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere because it was in Woodbridge, New Jersey, 68 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: which is central New Jersey would be it's the middle 69 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: of the state, basically, I guess that's pretty much the 70 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: middle of the state. Um of course to a North 71 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: Jersey and nothing exists pasts, you know. I think Exit 72 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: one fifty two maybe is about the that's it, you know, 73 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: there's there's there's more New Jersey past one fifty two 74 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: on the parkway camp be Um. But it was a 75 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: great class while we were there, you know. And and 76 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't help but think the first night that I 77 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: was there, the things that I saw. You can see 78 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: there was distinctly two types of of of technicians in 79 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: the room. Right. There were the older guys that have 80 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: been doing this a long time. And I don't consider 81 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: myself in this group. This is this is you know, 82 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: this was I was. I was an innocent bystander watching UM. 83 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: There were two guys there that I know that do 84 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: mobile flashing um, John and Keith, and they've seen much 85 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: more of this, I think than anybody else in the room, 86 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: myself included. And there were the newbies. There were the 87 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: kids that were just at a trade school. And the 88 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: kids were sitting there with their mouths open um. They 89 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: were just like, oh my god, what did I get 90 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: myself into? But you could see that some of them 91 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: were really embracing the technology. And you can see that 92 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 1: it's it's really going to become a technicians game going forward, 93 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: if it isn't already. You know, we there's gonna be 94 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: less of what I do and more of what this 95 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: is going forward. You can see that the mechanical side 96 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: is just slowly being a stout. I stopped up at 97 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: my guys up at Ramsay Nissan up here in uh 98 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: in Bergen County. And what day was that? That was Thursday? 99 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: It was it was Thursday, And actually that was Wednesday afternoon. 100 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: I take that back. That was Wednesday before class. And 101 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: I was talking to Mike and Tim and Service. We're 102 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: picking up some parts and going over things and just 103 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: you know, just a five minute game fest about business 104 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: and you know, are you guys Busineseah, we're a little quiet, 105 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, and again I noticed every 106 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: time I go in there, I'm just floored that these 107 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: young texts are just standing around playing on their phones 108 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: while Tim the master tech and a couple of the 109 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: other you know, a text B text or are working 110 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: and nobody's at their elbow, nobody's watching what's going on. 111 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: Mike the service manager told me, said, you know, it's hard. 112 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: He said, these guys are all on hourly and they 113 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: get paid whether they learned something or not, and they 114 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: just some of them just don't see the value in 115 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: trying to improve their lot um. And I said, so 116 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: what do you know, what are you seeing in the 117 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: way of repairs? And he said, well, tell me what 118 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: you're seeing in the way of repairs. And I said, 119 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: all right, I said, you know, in a typical week, 120 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's a couple of check engine lights, some 121 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's some wiring issues. Uh, we're 122 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: starting to see more network communication faulks. We talked a 123 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: little bit about class, you know, and then it's the 124 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: basic stuff, air filters, cabin filters. Not as many trans 125 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: services as there once was. And I said, what do 126 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: you guys do he said, well, he goes Usually it's 127 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: an engine or transmission, but it's under warranty because they're 128 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: newer cars. I said, what happens if the engine goes 129 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: on that car at eight? So we throw that away. 130 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: We just can buy a new car. You know, there's 131 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: there's And he said, that's why you know you you 132 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: won't see as geared towards that older engine. Replacement will 133 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: do it, but we're not. That's not our bread and 134 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: butter because nobody's gonna put the equivalent of six or 135 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars and an eight nine year old Nissan. 136 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: There's just there's just no point um, you know. And 137 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: it's and and mark my words, guys, all right, if 138 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: if it's happening at the dealer level, where they're not 139 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: doing that at least here, I'm not sure what the 140 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: rest of the country is like, but if it's happening here, 141 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna filter its way down to the to the 142 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: rest of the industry as time goes by. So between 143 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: that conversation and Vehicle Network Diagnostic Strategy seminar that I 144 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: saw the other night with a t G, I've got 145 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: to think that the beginning of the changeover. It's here. 146 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: I think we're probably, you know, within the next two years, 147 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna be radically different the way we approach repairing 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: automobiles and what we were repairing. It's going to be 149 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: at the national level. I think the guys that I 150 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: saw on the forum arguing about putting cylinder heads on 151 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: the nine Explorer with a hundred sixty thou miles on 152 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: it a year ago, that that vehicle is not gonna 153 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: exist anymore. It's gonna be rusted away and gone, and 154 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: there's gonna be no support for it. And once you 155 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: get into the newer vehicles, once more of the country 156 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: is into the newer vehicles that are more and more electronic, 157 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: there's gonna be less mechanical repair. You're gonna see a 158 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: heck of a changeover. Um from my seat, from what 159 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, you're gonna see a heck of a changeover 160 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: in terms of how vehicles are repaired and what actually 161 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: gets repaired, and changes in the industry about and who 162 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: does what. It'll always be mechanics, but the the assault 163 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: by the electronics is just relentless, and it's just increasing 164 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: more and more every day. You know it's like that 165 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: in many industries. When I started in this business forty 166 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: one years ago, it was taped, it was discrete transistors. 167 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: If something broke, you fix it. Now everything's everything is 168 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: on computer. You pull out your laptop to diagnose it. 169 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: You pull out the circuit car and send it back 170 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: to the factory and they send you a new one. 171 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: You're slap it in and you walk away. It's like 172 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: it's it's very different. I wonder, and I was thinking 173 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: the other day, when will they you know, you can 174 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: now download the cars. Ford has the ability on some 175 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: of their vehicles that you can do software updates over 176 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: the air. And you wonder when when will it get 177 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: to the stage and I've got I think it's coming. 178 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're not anywhere near it for a while yet, 179 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: for a lot of issues, legal among them. But you 180 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: wonder when, Hey, my car won't start because of this, 181 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: When will it become like the Starship Enterprise, when we 182 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: can bypass circuits and use other controllers on the vehicle 183 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: and get the car to start, get the car to run, 184 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: and get the car back to a repair shop because 185 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: one component failed and the backup redundancy. Will will move 186 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: the vehicle along and it might be a simple phone 187 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: call to a diagnostic center and say, hey, my car 188 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: doesn't start. Dashlights are doing this, Okay, no no problem. 189 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: Mr Nadian will just flip things around and make it 190 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: do that. And you know, you know, Star Trek, here 191 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: we go. Um, I've I've got to think it's coming 192 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: because I'm telling you you go through this book and 193 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: I because I'm as class. Thursday night, the instructor, who's 194 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: a friend of mine, said all right, says listen, I 195 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: know you can do it. He says, you gotta reach 196 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: chapter three and four. I'm gonna call you in two 197 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: weeks and give you a test. Great. I would rather 198 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: drive through the blizzard than un have to put up 199 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: with that nonsense. But I'll do at all. You know what, 200 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: I've never backed down from it there yet. But um, 201 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: just the things that are in here. Uh, you know, 202 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: I thought I was I thought I was reading a 203 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: book on wiring and network at the shop when I 204 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: put the computers in. But that's anyway, what's going on 205 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: in the next two hours. I am running naming the 206 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: car doctor and I talk a little bit about John Deer. 207 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: At some point receive the listener letter about UM the 208 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: right to repair comments and I want to cover that. UM. 209 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: I've got a caller online too. But before I do that, 210 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 1: le pull over, take the pause, will come back and 211 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: we'll go right to John on Long Island and the 212 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: rest of the callers as um as we line things 213 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: up and get going here at eight hundred, I'm sorry 214 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: eight five five eight hundred. My god, I haven't been 215 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: an eight hundred number. And yeah, well it's been about 216 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: seven years. Why don't remember the phone number from my 217 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: other radio st Tom, I'm shot today. The first thing 218 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: that goes around. Yeah, I know, I know. Five five 219 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: five six zero nine zero zero. Running in the car doctor, 220 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. He drives that way. 221 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: But when it comes to fixing cars, Ron has card 222 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: advice done right. Eight five five five zero nine nine 223 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: zero zero. Here's Rod. Let's kick those garage doors open 224 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: and go over to John on Long Island the c RV. John. 225 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, thanks for hanging on. 226 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: What can I do for you? John? Um gott a 227 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: c r V. It's got um a hundred thousand miles 228 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: on it. I'm not really having any issues. I was 229 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: gonna run tech roun through you know this after the 230 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: snow this Thursday. And my question is should I replace 231 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: the coil on plugs? Are you asking should you replace 232 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: the coils or the plugs? Um? Uh, well, the coils 233 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: and and my understanding is now I've got you talking 234 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: about things have changed. The last car I worked on 235 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: had one coil. This these have four. To change the 236 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: coils like that. They're easy enough to get to right there, 237 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: right up top. They're not there there. It's it's not 238 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: a lesson in contortionism to change these. I would think 239 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: more along the long ends of putting plugs in. It 240 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: a hundred grand and that's a little early even alright, 241 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: look at how the business has changed. Those plugs are 242 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: likely not due till a minimum of a hundred and 243 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: five thousand, and maybe not even till a hundred and 244 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: twenty as it gets off the top of my head. 245 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: But my concern is that it's eight going on nine 246 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: years old. It's a steel plug in an aluminum head, 247 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: and I always worry about the two bonding together and 248 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: how easily will they come out? Should we wait till 249 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: the maximum length of time? So you know, if we're 250 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: having a Hey, Ron, I want to get my car 251 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: ready for winter. Conversation. Yeah, I put four spark plugs 252 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: in it. I do some fuel system service, like you're discussing, 253 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: I would do a throttle body cleaning. Keep in mind 254 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: that if you clean the throttle body on that car, 255 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: all right, you know the procedure I'm I'm talking about, John, Um, 256 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm familiar with it. Yeah, okay, you know, cleaning the 257 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: throttle plate in the housing the like the like the 258 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: front door of your house builds up dirt and prevents 259 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: it from closing properly in a in a in a 260 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: high dirt area. Uh So you have to kind of 261 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: push on the door a little harder to get at 262 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: the seat and lock a throttle plate, which is the 263 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: air intake. It's the you know, the intake. Um. As 264 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: the engine breathes, air draws it past this plate. The 265 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: further you open the plate, the further you open the door, 266 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: more air flows through that type of thing. So carbon 267 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: builds up a ridge around the plate itself, and it's 268 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: it's it needs to be clean from time to time 269 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: and depending upon where you drive, how you drive, I 270 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: think brand of fuel, Um, how clean the air filter 271 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: is the quality of the air filter. There's a lot 272 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: of things that that affect it will cause that throttle 273 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: plate to be you know, dirty and stick and and 274 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: and and and do a bunch of things. Um. For example, 275 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: a dirty throttle plate will change the angle of the plate. Right, 276 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: it's it's the door sits a little bit of jar 277 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: because it's dirty. The throttle plate sits a little bit 278 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: of a different angle because it's dirty. That will change 279 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: throttle position sensor reading. So the computer sees that voltage reading. 280 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: We had a car this week and a Nissan as 281 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, that had to be re flashed. 282 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: The software. There was an update for it because is 283 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: as the throttle plate got dirty, it changed the angle 284 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: of the throttle position sensor. But the onboard computer, the 285 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: programming was a little cock guide, and it saw the 286 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: change in the throttle position sensor angle. UM saying okay, 287 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: well the throttle plates at this, then why isn't the 288 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: airflow across the sensor that and instead of code for 289 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: a bad mess airflow sensor And it was wrong. And 290 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're Honda, you know, has any of this. 291 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm just examples of what can go what what can 292 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: be created by dirty throttle plates on some cars, in 293 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: terms of a Honda, just about any other car out there, 294 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: excess dirt on that throttle plate or any dirt on 295 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: the throttle plate, like dirt on the front door to 296 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: the house. It sticks, you know, it's it's it's it's 297 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: packed in tight, it's wedged. Over time, that dirt will 298 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: beat up the door frame and expand it. That dirt 299 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: will beat up that carbon, will beat up the throttle 300 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: body housing and expand it and caused the plate to 301 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: have some alignment issues. So cleaning the throttle body is 302 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: a normal occurrence, uh, you know. And you want to 303 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: do that, however on a Honda. And if anybody wants 304 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: to see this, all you've got to do is get 305 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: out of scan tool and go in under year, make 306 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: model and look for the idol learn just like I said, 307 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: idle L E A R and idle learn head uh 308 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: parameter of data and you'll see and we'll say under 309 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: learned it will be yes or no, all right. And 310 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: what happens is you've got to go through or completed. 311 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: Um it's one of the three. I forget exactly how 312 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: they were. But if you don't, if you haven't. If 313 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: you've cleaned the throttle plate, you want to make sure 314 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: that you go through the idle learned procedure, which the 315 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: car can do on its own over time. It's a 316 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: lot faster and more efficient and more likely to happen 317 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: using a scan tool. There's a set procedure where you 318 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: have to erase throttle body minimum settings. In other words, 319 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: you clean it now the front door sits closed, right, 320 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: or the throttle plate sits closed in the old position. 321 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: Throttle position angularity changes and it's got to learn that 322 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: all over again. There's a procedure you have to go through. 323 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: Not doing that on a Honda can cause the check 324 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: engine light to come on P zero five oh five 325 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: or five oh seven, one of the two depends on 326 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: the year, make model, um and you'll get a check 327 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: engine light. So just just be aware. So for auto 328 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: plate cleaning, fuel system cleaning, spark plugs. When was the 329 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: last time coolant was replaced? John m Um Not sure? Okay. 330 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: Honda is one of those companies that you know they 331 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: believe in miracles. They'll they think the coolant lest on 332 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: some of their cars ten years now. So depending upon 333 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: which coolanth this has I've seen ten year any freezing Hondas, 334 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: I've seen five year any freezing Hondas. I think five 335 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: years is enough time. I think I think enough can 336 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: happen in five years. And and you know, knowing what 337 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: cars cost today, again, I like to air to the 338 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: side of caution. I put some I drain and fill 339 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: the cooling or do a cooling exchange. When was the 340 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: last time the transit service? Is this a CVT or 341 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: is this a standard or regular automatic Honda? It's an 342 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: automatic And I have done the transmission lessons good. I 343 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: actually I've done it. It's a hundred thousand mile I've 344 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: done it twice, alright. You know, I like to do 345 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: Honda automatic trans fluid every UM. I don't think you 346 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: can do it often enough. I still see reports that 347 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: it's still one of the higher failure rate items on 348 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: the Honda's They just I don't know what it is. 349 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: I just they just don't seem to have gotten it. UM. 350 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: It's gotten better over time, but it's not anywhere's near 351 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: what I think it should be. UM. One of the 352 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: biggest problems Honda still seems to be having. And I 353 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 1: heard this from some Honda text the other day, is 354 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: they still can't get piston rings fast enough for some 355 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: of their V six is and four cylinders that are 356 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: having oil foul issues starting in two thousand nine through 357 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: ten eleven, twelve thirteen model year. So you know, Honda's 358 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: got their issues. They're not They're not infallible. I'm not 359 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: sure why we all rave about them. Um And then 360 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: other than that break fluid break fluid needs to be replaced. 361 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: Take a look at wiper blades. Think about rubber components 362 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: on the car you know at at at at eight 363 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: nine years with almost a um hun thousand miles on it, 364 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: it's time to start doing some maintenance to it and 365 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: get it ready for winter. And don't forget the check 366 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: the battery. Appreciate it, John, Good luck to you. I'm 367 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: ringing the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. 368 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: Don't the way when the family car needs some fixing, 369 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: there's only two things that really matter, getting the right 370 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: part and getting some good advice. It's a pretty safe 371 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: bet that, with over a million parts in stock, pet 372 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: Boys has the right part right now. The pet Boys 373 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: pros are extensively trained to find the right part for 374 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: just about any car truck. Better yet, these pros can 375 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: also handle the entire installation or service needed. It's always 376 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: good to have options and know the Pep Boys pros 377 00:18:50,359 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: have it covered either way. Welcome back Ron any of 378 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: the car Doctor along with Darth and the rest of 379 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: the gang from Star Wars. So will ever be like 380 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: Star Wars? Well? Actually it is. Um, did you see 381 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: the article? Different subject? I can't talk about this, people 382 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: get mad at me. Well I will. I just did 383 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: anybody see the article on the internet. We're talking about 384 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: space and it kind of got my mind thinking, because 385 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: my mind's kind of off in the space anyway. Today. 386 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: Um about they found all these cats mummified in Egypt? No, yeah, 387 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: so I was thinking, does that mean that the cats 388 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: were the first alien invaders? Because the aliens built the 389 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: pyramids and those are really the It could happen, so 390 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: let's I never know. You never know. So, you know, 391 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: as far as the you know, one of the alien 392 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, people keep talking about when the aliens are coming. 393 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: So I think they're already here. I think I saw 394 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: a few of them walking around town the other day. 395 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: Let's go and talk to Ray from Montsell, New York, 396 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: O six christ or PACIFICA see what's going on here. Ray, 397 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? Good? Sir? 398 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: What's cooking? Yea, my service immobilizer and the audible start? Okay? Um? 399 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: Was it? Was it? Good one day and bad the next? Ray? Yeah? 400 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: Good one day? It's started for about fast seconds either off, 401 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: um gate wouldn't move, and then right out. All right. Um, 402 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: so now if you're going you turn the key, nothing happens. Correct, 403 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: nothing happened, just a desk more lights up, but nothing happened. 404 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: So do do you understand what service a mobilizer is 405 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: or what the immobilizer is? No, No, the immobilizer or 406 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, the mobilizer system in that and other cars 407 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: of that generation that company Chrysler is that it thinks 408 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: the vehicle is being stolen. It's not recognizing the key 409 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: or the action being taken, and so it's putting the 410 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: car into a no start event so that it's not stolen. 411 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: All right. Of course, I don't know who's gonna steal 412 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: in a six Chrysler at this point in the game. 413 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: But you know, here here, here's the here's the price 414 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 1: of electronics from what it was twelve years ago. So 415 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: this could be an issue with the key with the 416 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: way the key is being read. This could be an 417 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: internal fault in the powertrain control module. This is an 418 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: electronic or computer problem. Normally, go ahead, well, I have 419 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: two keys, right, you try them both and neither one 420 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: work right? Well, and the problem is it doesn't have 421 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: the ability. I knew you were going to say that. 422 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: It doesn't. It doesn't have the ability to you know, 423 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: we got the wrong key. Let me try the right key. 424 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: It it needs a reset in most cases, and it's 425 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: it's a lot of times it's involved with a scan tool. 426 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: Put a scan tool in it, and you know, put it, 427 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: put it, put a scan tool on it, clear the code. 428 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: See if the vehicle will start? All right? UM, if 429 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: we were diagnosing this at some point, and here's that conversation, 430 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: here's a vehicle that is early stage controlled area network, 431 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: there's there there is some network and implications here that 432 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: I was talking about in the in the opening today 433 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: where you know, modules speak to one another on a 434 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: data bus and uh, you know Christ there was one 435 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: of the first ones to do this, and it continue 436 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: it's continues to today. Um, at some point in a diagnosis, 437 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: and I'm not suggesting you do this, but if you 438 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: if you get desperate ray, it's it's worth a shot. 439 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: We do a module reset, disconnect both battery cables and 440 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: leave them disconnected. And you know, if someone could leave 441 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: them disconnected for fift twenty minutes, um, if if they've 442 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: got a um A tent on resistor wire ten on 443 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: one watt resistor wire and and you know, short the 444 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: battery terminals, the cables, not the bad ter re short 445 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: the battery cables together with that to bleed, to bleed 446 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: down all the computers. Maybe, UM that module reset is 447 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: something that does come up in can bus diagnosis. We 448 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: normally do it. It's about step seven or eight. You know, 449 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: we're try not to make it the first step. And 450 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: the reason is because the problem becomes that computers have 451 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: learning curves. They all have they all they all learn. Um. 452 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: You know, you disconnect the battery. You know, in the 453 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: old days, you disconnected the battery. What happens you lost 454 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: the radio station presets? Right well, you know, now you're 455 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: gonna lose radio station presets, transadaptive engine adaptive and you know, 456 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: and that's probably it on an O six. But if 457 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: you did module disconnect and reset on a vehicle, oh good, lord. Um. 458 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: The amount of the amount of electronics that have to 459 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: be relearned and reset. It could take up to an hour. 460 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: So you know, I just sitting here saying it from 461 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: my seat radio makes it sound so easy. I'm just 462 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: trying to explain to everybody listening. You know somebody in 463 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: Iowa or somebody in Florida that may have a similar problem. 464 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't want their rushing out and says, well, Ron says, 465 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: disconnect the battery every time. No, that's not what Ron's saying. Um. 466 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: Ron's saying that you know, understand the implications of what 467 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: it is that happens when you do and why you 468 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: do it. So I handed a couple of shops and 469 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: the once I've had it for three weeks and they 470 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: could get it started, so I had to take you 471 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: to them. Notice out the other time I've got it 472 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: started in one day and one day, but the batter 473 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: had me and open it, and then when I got 474 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: it home it ran all that day. I cut it 475 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: off with shopping, cut it back on the date and 476 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 1: uh that they did went out to start it. So 477 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: it's an intermittent Intermittently the immobilizer is coming on. So 478 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: then the first thing that shop should be doing, and 479 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: maybe they are disconnecting the battery and that's what's making 480 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: it happen. I'm hoping that shop comes back to you 481 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: with hey, Ray, we scanned it for codes and we 482 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: got you know this, we got a U one hundred 483 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: or a U zero or you know, we saw a 484 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: fault in the instrument panel cluster. We saw a fault 485 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: in the PCM because just doing a module reset, it 486 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: sounds like the module reset worked and will work. But 487 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: now the question is what's losing communication along the way 488 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: preventing it from happening. Yeah, they told me. They told 489 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: me the SAC the shop told me that they they 490 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: had connected to their computer that they had came up 491 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: with a clank sensor that someptom about the clink send 492 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: you know who has to be uh redone a new sensor. 493 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: That's what they see in to me, Did they put 494 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: a new crank sensor in it? Okay? And it started 495 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: for you when you left their shop, then I would 496 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: you know, they could have seen a fault code for 497 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: a crank sensor. But I still don't believe that somewhere 498 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: along the way. I don't want to start. I don't 499 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: want to start trying to overwrite a repair shops diagnosis. 500 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: A mobilizer on is playing and simple. It doesn't recognize 501 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: the key, and it keeps the car from from from 502 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: turning over, from the starter engaging, and the PCM from 503 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: allowing the engine to run. Crank sensor issues could be 504 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: a separate problem unto itself. Here's here's here's here's how 505 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: you sort of bring it to a head ray all right, 506 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: and then I gotta go ask the shop that wants 507 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: to put the crank sensor in it? Can they can 508 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: they guarantee that that's going to fix the car? Right right? Okay, 509 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Well then you know, tell them to stop guessing. Um, 510 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: now they can say, hey, hey, this is part of 511 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: the problem. That's a different conversation. But because it doesn't 512 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: crank over, it doesn't mean a crank sensor is gonna 513 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: fix it. That's that's word. That's word assimilation, and we 514 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: don't want to do that. So, um, this may be 515 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: beyond the local repair shops depth level and it may 516 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: become a dealership repair. I hate to say it like that, 517 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: but you know, just just my two cents, I believe, 518 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna think so all right, Well it could 519 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: be a problem. There's a couple of computers here that 520 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: are common. They did have problems with instrument panels. Believe 521 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: it or not, the instrument panel in that car is 522 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: technically a computer module. They've had problems it just a 523 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: hand because yeah, I understand, you know, And and keep 524 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: in mind before you spend any real big money on 525 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: this car, Ray, it's twelve years old. Parts are becoming 526 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: scarcer and harder to find than as a senior on 527 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: a fixed income, you may want to enquire about replacing 528 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: the car because maybe maybe a monthly payment to have 529 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: something more reliable and new is better than having something 530 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna have this kind of surprise. Because the other 531 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: thing you've got to look at is, you know, s 532 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: somebody to do an evaluation if the car does, if 533 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: the car has this many miles on it in this 534 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: kind of condition, beyond the immobilizer fault, what else could 535 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: be going wrong with it? You know, you want to 536 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: look at the whole picture. All right, It's no spring 537 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: chicken anymore. It's new to you, it's not new to 538 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: anybody else. Because it's twelve going on thirteen years old. 539 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: Likely a lot of the parts aren't available anymore, and 540 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: you don't want to spend a lot of money on 541 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: it unless you really have to, and you know exactly 542 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: what you're getting yourself into. Do that, do the evaluation. 543 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: Call me back next week if you have any more questions. 544 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad to help Ray and I wish you the best. 545 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: Eight five five zero nine zero. The car Doctor is 546 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: coming back right after this that. Hey, welcome back. Run 547 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: in the end of the car back. Let's go and 548 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: talk to Glenn in Philadelphia, Oh three Nissan Ultimate. Glenn, 549 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car Doctor, sir, how can I help? 550 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: You're welcome? What's going on? Five hundred ninety thousand works 551 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: fine a highway speeds, but when it's idoling, it's kind 552 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: of lukewarm at best, and I take a mechanic um. 553 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: They replaced both thermostats, and they said, well, so the 554 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: problem still exists, and they said, I need a water pump, 555 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: and I just want to get your opinion on that. 556 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen a bad water pump 557 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: on an Ultimate one. All right, Yeah, there's no leakage, 558 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: there's no noise, right, and you know it it's the 559 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: one thing if it overheated, you know, you think about circulation, 560 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: and you know, the easiest way I would sit and 561 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: diagnose it and listen. What I've seen doesn't make it 562 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: the benchmark for what's wrong with the car. But you know, 563 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: if we want to talk about pattern failures and what's common, 564 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a hundred ninety thousand miles and 565 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: you won't like this answer. He corps, I'm gonna I'm 566 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: gonna tell you it's a bad head gasket. Yeah, that's 567 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: it does? It uses cool one okay, wall, We're done 568 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: conversations over um, you know. And it's not you never 569 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: see a puddle the motor. Yeah, it just slowly loses it. 570 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: You know, you're tooling around town and you're just over 571 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: over time. It's like every couple of weeks you're adding 572 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: just you know, a couple of big table spoonsfull of 573 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: cool and you're like, where's it all going? Uh? You know, 574 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: And that's and that's what they do. They seep. They 575 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: seep cooling through the head gasket and it actually pumps 576 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: enough air because the heater core sits up higher than 577 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: the radiator and it puts enough air into the system 578 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: and then the system gets air bound and that's why 579 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: when it's and it actually, if you think about it, 580 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: because the system is air bound. So it shows how 581 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: good the water pumps working. Because the water pump at 582 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: high speed, when the engines running hard down the road 583 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: at sixty, it's able to push cooling past the air 584 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 1: bubble and and get heat to the core. And then 585 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: at idle, the water pumps spinning slower and things slow 586 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: down a little bit, and the air that's in the 587 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: system is now creating uh an air pocket. And it's 588 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: it's just like baseboard heating in the house, right and 589 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: in a in a base board house, the system gets 590 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: air bound and it it won't flow coolant, and you 591 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: know you get no heat. So you know, here you go, 592 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: oh three, what are we? Fourteen years old? Fifteen years old, 593 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: hundred nine miles on it? Yeah, it's it's I'm thinking 594 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: more more along the lines. You've got a head gasket problem. 595 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: I can give you that. I can give you the 596 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: temporary solution which might turn into a permanent one. That's 597 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: a lot less than a head gasket. Yeah, I know, 598 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: go ahead. You recommended I forget the name. Yeah, I 599 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: would put some k seal in it. I wouldn't I 600 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't think twice about it. Um, you know, I would 601 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: definitely put some k seal in it. You can get 602 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: it in a local Oreillyoto parts if you I believe 603 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: it's kseal dot com. They talk about it. You know. 604 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: The idea with k seal and this is this would 605 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: be a classic repair we would do in the shop 606 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: where we would you know, put some k seal. Here's 607 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: a fifteen year old car that's got two hundred thousand 608 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: miles on it. Uh, you know you kind of don't 609 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: want to take it apart to do a head gasket. Uh. 610 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: You know it's it's gonna be more than the value 611 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: of the vehicle. Um. You know, see what k sal 612 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: does for you. It's it's I I see, I've seen 613 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: it work. I've seen of work every time I've used it, 614 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: and I hear more good than bad. And I questioned 615 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: the bed how well these guys are using it or 616 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: what application? And you know people expected to fill gopher roles. Um, 617 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, but in the case of a seeping head gasket, 618 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: it works fine. Um, I can't say anew about it. 619 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: How do you apply the radiator? Yeah, directions are right 620 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: on the bottle. Glenn Uh, you know, obviously I drained 621 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: the radiator down a little bit because you know, you've 622 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: got to make room for the product to go in. 623 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: But it's you know, drain it down. Um, I believe 624 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: it's a cold install, started up, fill it up, started up, 625 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: and drive the car. And I think that's the extent 626 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: of it. Um. You know, I probably can't do that myself, 627 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 1: and would be a product like that, I would think so, 628 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: I would think so. And you know, um I would 629 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: tell you and in the bottle and in the radiator, 630 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: not the overflow bottle. All right, So first first step first, 631 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: so go google k sealer. I believe it's caseal dot 632 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: com and you can read about it and look at 633 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: some of the testimonials and um, you know we use 634 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: it all the time. Um, I've got I've got bottles up. 635 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: It's sitting on the shelf at the shop. And UM, 636 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: we don't do a lot of it because we try 637 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: to do that, you know, we want to do the 638 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: I'll call it a complete repair if the economics justify it. 639 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: But you know we're not gonna put it in a 640 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: ten thousand mile two year old car. But you know, 641 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: something like this, and the car is probably the train 642 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: station or the or the beater or the you know, 643 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: maybe it's your only set of wheels and you're just 644 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: trying to get around and survive the economy. Then yeah, 645 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: there's a perfect example of it. Um, But I would 646 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: I would surely try that before I started throwing water 647 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: pumps or cars that it doesn't make sense. Yeah, it 648 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: just didn't make sense when he said symptoms. Yeah, one clue. 649 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: Don't give him the k seal to put it in. 650 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: He won't understand what the um you know? So alright, sorry? 651 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: One more sure? Two for a nickel go okay? Um? 652 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: Used maybe mid size stuv s. What do you like? 653 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: Maybe two thousand eleven twelves something like that. UM, tell 654 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: you what. Let me pull over and take the pause, 655 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: and when I come back, I'll have an answer for you. 656 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: I want to think about that for a couple of minutes. 657 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: Don't go away, I'm running any of the car doctor. 658 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Pocom back running in cards. 659 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: Listen back to Glenn and Philly. Glenn, we were talking 660 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: before the pause there about the mid size two thousand 661 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: eleven Vinta Jira SUV. That's right, right, correct? Um, gonna 662 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: think about the four escape. Um, I actually I'm a 663 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: tall guy and just a little tight, So so what 664 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: do you need to fit in Chevy Equinox? Probably too 665 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: small for you too, then, right, No, Actually I was 666 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: gonna ask you about that because I was in one 667 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: and I did have room in that. I don't know. 668 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: That's you don't know anything about the car, the role, 669 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: liability or anything like that. That's I want to find out. Um, 670 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: the reliability is good. It just but I gotta tell 671 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: you eleven, I probably shoot more for a thirteen if 672 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: I could just just something a little newer. But the thirteens, 673 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: the fourteens, I like the Equinoxes. The tens, elevens and twelves. 674 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: They had some piston and ring issues. They were right 675 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: there with Honda. It seems like they all caught the 676 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: same disease. Um, you know, they got better in time. 677 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: But I like the Equinox. You know, obviously I like 678 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: the Toyota stuff, although you know, I kind of put 679 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: four GM in Toyota, all on the same all on 680 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: the same pile there. Um, you know, nothing at Nissan 681 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: catches my mind, you know. Um, you know, maybe the Traverse, 682 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: but that's the Traverse is just I think gonna be 683 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: too big for you, you you know, if if it's in 684 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 1: the budget. I still like the Explorer, the Ford Explorer. 685 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a solid vehicle. I think it's probably 686 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: one of the more underrated SUVs out there that a 687 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: lot of people overlook. UM, I'm sorry, what oh twelve 688 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen, you know somewhere in that area. Um, try 689 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: and stay away from the turbos if you can on 690 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: those models, but you know better with the regular V 691 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: six is. But you should be fun, happy motor in 692 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: Glenn and happy Thanksgiving. I'm are on any of the 693 00:35:50,800 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: card Doctor mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See you, She 694 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: was s