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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome in another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: I'm channel the room along with Tyler Stafford. I am

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, where the Astros across the last two

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Speaker 1: days have really well experienced baseball. They beat Paul Skeens

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Speaker 1: in the first game of this series, and then yesterday

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Speaker 1: were shut out by some guy named Mike Burrows, who

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Speaker 1: I had definitely heard of before I got to the

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Speaker 1: ballpark and looked at the lineup card and saw that

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Speaker 1: he was starting. Let's talk about Paul Skeen just because

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Speaker 1: that's fun, Tyler, he is incredible, Like, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I may have shared the story last time we were

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Speaker 1: talking about it, Like the last time the Ashers faced

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Speaker 1: Paul Skeens. It was at then minute Made Park and

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Speaker 1: the Ashers traded for Usa Kakuchi like an hour before

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Speaker 1: the game. So I did not watch Paul Skeen's pitch

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Speaker 1: in that game. I was writing and like trying to

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Speaker 1: nail down the return and reporting and do it. Like

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Speaker 1: the last thing I was worried about was watching Paul

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Speaker 1: Skeen's pitch. So I got to watch him really pitch

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Speaker 1: in person for the first time on Tuesday. That is

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Speaker 1: that is an experience man. He is. It is effortless

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Speaker 1: ninety nine. He can run it up to one oh

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Speaker 1: two without even trying. I thought the Astros, honestly, I

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Speaker 1: thought they took fine at bats against him, like they

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Speaker 1: didn't look completely overmatched. But he is just He's on

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Speaker 1: another level and if I were him, I would demand

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Speaker 1: to trade immediately because what they have surrounded him with

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Speaker 1: is nothing short of abysmal.

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Speaker 2: It is truly unfortunate that the Pirates are so bad

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Speaker 2: because the ballpark is great. Obviously, I'm getting on the

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Speaker 2: ground reporting from my dad and uncle about how cool

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Speaker 2: it is. I trust them way more than you. But

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Speaker 2: obviously the ballpark is great. The uniforms rock. Everyone looks

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Speaker 2: cool than a pirate's uniform. That like, I mean, everyone

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Speaker 2: on the Astros would look cool in a Pirate's uniform.

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Speaker 2: I was joking somebody on Twitter that, like, think about

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Speaker 2: how cool Think about how much better Lance mccullors would

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Speaker 2: be just wearing that uniform. I can't explain it, but

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Speaker 2: he would look cooler and would be a better pitcher.

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Speaker 2: It stinks that they're bad because the fans are cool too.

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Speaker 2: I mean that Johnny Cuato highlight from the one time

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Speaker 2: they made the playoffs this century is one of the

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Speaker 2: coolest baseball highlights of the whole crowd chanting Cuato Adam

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Speaker 2: and he drops the ball. I feel bad for Pirates fans. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Paul Skeins is way too good to be surrounded by that.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get the like Felix Hernandez cy Young where

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Speaker 2: he goes like seven and ten this year with a

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Speaker 2: one eighty ERA and wins the cy Young. But he's

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Speaker 2: he's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I know, like pitcher and win loss record is antiquated

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Speaker 1: and no one cares anymore. But like he is four

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Speaker 1: and six and.

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Speaker 2: Has Yeah, they're like two and three in his last

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Speaker 2: five starts, right.

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Speaker 1: He's four and six with a two oh five R.

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Speaker 1: Like that is that's tough to sway. Man. Like he

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Speaker 1: went out there and put that team on his back

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and it was funny, like Christian Walker homeward

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Speaker 1: off of him first home run. Skins had given up

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Speaker 1: in thirty eight and two thirds innings and to hear

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Speaker 1: Walker talk about it, he was basically, yeah, I went

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Speaker 1: up there just selling out for one hundred because I

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Speaker 1: have to I guess wrong, and he just so happened

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Speaker 1: to it, like literally, like he he fell into a

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Speaker 1: home run against Paul Skeins, which is what you have

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Speaker 1: to do when a guy is that good. It should

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Speaker 1: be noted too, that the guy that Paul Skeins opposed,

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Speaker 1: Lance mccullors, was just as good. I would not go

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Speaker 1: as far to say he outdueled Paul Skins. Paul Skins

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Speaker 1: went eight innings, Lance only went six, but it suffice

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Speaker 1: to say Lance is stepping up. This has been a

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Speaker 1: really really encouraging sign for the Astros that since that

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Speaker 1: just horrendous start against the Reds on May tenth, he

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Speaker 1: has a two point two to one era in his

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Speaker 1: next twenty innings. I don't want to say it's vintage

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Speaker 1: McCall yet. I think he's still working through some things

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Speaker 1: and working to get back to his true form. But

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Speaker 1: the tyler, he looks every bit like the pitcher that

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Speaker 1: they need to get through this rough patch where they've

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Speaker 1: only got, you know, really three bona fide starters in

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Speaker 2: It felt so good watching him. I was so happy

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Speaker 2: to see him continue to bounce back to be able

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Speaker 2: to go deeper into the game. And I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he looked. He looked good. It's it's a different mccolors. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: he's throwing twenty nine percent fastballs across his whole Arizona.

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Speaker 2: It's just slider, curveball, change up. That slider is gross

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Speaker 2: is when he gets to face lefties and brings out

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Speaker 2: the knuckle curve. I like that a lot. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean he was in the zone. He you know,

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Speaker 2: the velocity looked pretty good. It's never going to get

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Speaker 2: with the movement that he has looking good, so very

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean Lance ephen, if you watched his

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Speaker 1: postgame interview after the Pirates are to even acknowledged like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to rear back through ninety six to

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Speaker 1: ninety seven anymore. If that's probably never going to come back.

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Speaker 1: So it is a lot about commanding his spin in

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Speaker 1: the zone. And one thing he did very well on

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Speaker 1: his change up's been excellent too. He can he can

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Speaker 1: rightis and lefties too, because usually usually pitchers will reserve

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Speaker 1: sliders for right handed hitters curveballs for left handed hitters.

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Speaker 1: But those lefties in the Pirates lineup saw the slider

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Speaker 1: he does. He's not afraid to do that. He'll throw

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Speaker 1: a four steamer every now and then. But make no mistake,

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Speaker 1: like Lance is going to be a guy that it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a lot of spin, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of secondary pitches, and he's going to have

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Speaker 1: to get teams to expand the strike zone. Now, the

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Speaker 1: easiest way to do that is to get them behind

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Speaker 1: in the count and when he's doing what and that's

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Speaker 1: he did a great job of that against the Pirates

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and the Ashers are gonna benefit for it

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Speaker 1: because I think, as we saw on Wednesday with Ryan Gusto, Look,

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Speaker 1: because in all reality, he should not be in this

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Speaker 1: some just injuries, freak injuries, some unforeseen injuries, and just

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Speaker 1: And you could say the same thing for Colton Gordon,

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Speaker 1: starts and he's failed to finish five innings, and six

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Speaker 1: not there, the secondary pitches are really not there. But

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Speaker 1: Tyler that they don't really have a choice at this point,

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Speaker 1: like they they're gonna have to find a way to

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Speaker 1: make this work until Spencer Arraghetti comes back, or until

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline at the end of July, when I

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Speaker 1: think we can now pretty safely say that their most

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Speaker 2: Do they have to wait to the deadline? You know?

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Speaker 2: I mean I say that as someone with ADHD who

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Speaker 2: has lived a life exclusively waiting to the deadline. My

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Speaker 2: mantra in college was, if you wait until the last minute.

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Speaker 2: It only takes a minute, So I understand waiting until

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Speaker 2: the deadline, but I sure would like them to get

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Speaker 2: just like an adult man who can be a starting pitcher.

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Speaker 2: That'd be nice that, you know, you don't have to

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Speaker 2: give up too much. You can be anybody at this point,

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Speaker 2: because those those are rough watching uh watching those other

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Speaker 2: two rotation slotspy filled and like you said, they're doing

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Speaker 2: their best like that, they're in a position that you

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Speaker 2: They're doing an admiral job of admiral Admiral Rubel job

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Speaker 2: of uh, you know, just taking the ball and trying

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Speaker 2: their best. But they neither one of those guys or

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Speaker 2: guys that you're looking forward uh to to see in

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Speaker 1: At full at full strength, Ryan Gusto is starting in

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Speaker 1: Triple A sugar Lands rotation right now, or is a

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Speaker 1: swingman in the Major league bullpen. Same thing for for

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Speaker 1: Colton Gordon. But this is where they are. You asked

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Speaker 1: if they can wait until the deadline. I'm not breaking

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Speaker 1: any news here, but I mean they have been having

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Speaker 1: it's no one that's going to excite anyone. It's not

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Speaker 1: just what this veteran guy could give us in Colton

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Speaker 1: Gordon the same thing, Like do you wonder like is

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Speaker 1: it worth spending the money? Is it worth you know,

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Speaker 1: they're kicking some names around there. They're thinking about things

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Speaker 1: the lack of options out there. I think if something

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Speaker 1: like falls into their lap, if there's a DFA that

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Speaker 1: maybe they kick the tires on those, but there's no

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, maybe you jump the gun and you

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Speaker 2: take a flyer on Sandy Alcantara and just maybe overpay

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Speaker 2: just got swept by the Colorado Rockies. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: assume they're selling. But yeah, I mean I might push

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Speaker 2: back on they can give you the same value of

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Speaker 2: what you're gonna get out of Gusto and Gordon. Like

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Speaker 2: you said, Gordon's been a little morgansistant, and Gus has

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Speaker 2: been valuable as a bullpen arm. Like if you if

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Speaker 2: you look at his splits between starting and relieving, it's

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Speaker 2: been a pretty good reliever. But yeah, I mean, they

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Speaker 2: can't go too much.

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Speaker 1: Longer, which is why I think And I asked Joe

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Speaker 1: Spot after the game less night. Maybe this was not

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Speaker 1: may in a couple of weeks or look in to

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Speaker 1: maybe trying to use an opener in front of Ryan Gusto.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that would help, you know, kick the third time

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Speaker 1: So Tyler. First two days in Pittsburgh there was a

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Speaker 1: Defensive metrics are hard to understand. I fully acknowledge that

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Speaker 2: to make the play. The way that defensive metrics, you know,

433
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Speaker 2: will show you things that your eyes don't necessarily see

434
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Speaker 2: off the bat is there are some balls that alto

435
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: Bay almost gets to and you're like, oh, good play,

436
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: where it's like an average right fielder would have just

437
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: been standing under the ball to catch it. But again,

438
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: no one's asking him to do too much out there.

439
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: It's when a grounder gets hit to you out there,

440
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: toss it back in, throw it to the right guy,

441
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,919
Speaker 2: catch the pop ups that are out there, you know,

442
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: make an accurate throw when you need to. But you

443
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: know he's doing what he's supposed to be doing out there.

444
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: And yeah, your stat I read in your article was

445
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: great that like, yeah, he's not getting any opportunities, which

446
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 2: speaks to one the construction of the Astros pitching staff

447
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: that there's not a lot of fly balls a hit

448
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 2: and also that they are correctly picking their spots of

449
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: when to put him out in left field when the

450
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 2: fewest chances are going to be there. And yeah, I

451
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 2: mean it's working in the sense that he's not embarrassing himself,

452
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 2: he's not embarrassing the team. And that's all you could

453
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Speaker 2: ask for from a thirty five year old man learning

454
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: a new position a week before the season starts, you know,

455
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 2: like that's all you can ask for. And it's been

456
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Speaker 2: on the opposite side of the outfield. He's being lifted

457
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: up by Cam Smith, who I still can't believe is

458
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: that good at right field. It's silly.

459
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Speaker 1: He shouldn't.

460
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: He should wouldn't be that good. I loved on Sunday

461
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Speaker 2: Meltain's first game that Cam Smith had the most outfield

462
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 2: experience among Melton and Altuve he was the veteran outfielder

463
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: out there. I love that. But he you know, he's

464
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: making up for that ground out there, and so the

465
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 2: experiment's working for now, especially as the bat has been

466
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Speaker 2: heating up in you know, the recent couple of weeks.

467
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you talk about picking the right spots, I

468
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: mean PNC Park. I'm sure if you ask your dad,

469
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: you can look like left field at PNC Park is huge,

470
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: Like they circled this ballpark and like we are not

471
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Speaker 1: putting him out there. He may play there tonight behind

472
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Speaker 1: Frombervell does that would make a lot of sense. Fromer's

473
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: not going to get a ton of fly balls, especially

474
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Speaker 1: against this god awful lineup that probably won't hit him

475
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: at all, It would make sense to play him out

476
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: there tonight behind fromber but definitely did not make sense

477
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: to play him behind Gusto. Did not make sense to

478
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: play and behind the Colors. What will be very interesting

479
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: is come September, if they roll into one of these

480
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: ballparks that they've circled and they're like, we don't want

481
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: al Tuov out there, They're gonna have to make some

482
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: difficult decisions because like, do you weaken your infield defense

483
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: behind if it's a big game and from or Hunter

484
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: Brown's pitching, do you weaken your infield defense for that

485
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: night by putting Josel Tuov at second, like shore up

486
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: your outfield defense, because by then your don maybe back

487
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: who knows could be he'll probably be the DH. So

488
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: they will have some difficult decisions to confront in September

489
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: in some of these ballparks where it's not a slam

490
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: dunk to put him out there. But basically they'll cross

491
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Speaker 1: that bridge when they get to it, and I think

492
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Speaker 1: they're hopeful that by then, like we won't be having

493
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: this conversation about his defense, Like it still won't be average,

494
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: it still won't be you know, gold glove, you know worthy,

495
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: but he will at least he will have had a

496
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,239
Speaker 1: full season out there to like have grasped everything, and

497
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: naturally he will have gotten better by that point. So

498
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: I think that's when they're going to run into some

499
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: uh some maybe some issues. But right now I think

500
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: it is working just as they envisioned it would. One thing,

501
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: as I was writing that story last night, Tyler, I

502
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: wanted to include because one of the rationales in spring

503
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: training was that, oh, this this Astro's pitching staff's can

504
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: get so many ground balls because they have Fromber, they

505
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: have Hunter Brown, two guys that are generally groundball specialists.

506
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: Have you looked at their breakdown fly ball to ground

507
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: ball ratio for their pitching staff.

508
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I would imagine outside of those two, it's

509
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: the complete opposite the watching.

510
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: They have the fifth lowest ground ball rate in baseball

511
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: their pitching staff does. Which that surprised that that does that.

512
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: That is surprising to me because I thought because even

513
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: when mccullor's because you were factoring in when mccullors comes back,

514
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: like in general, he has been a ground ball pitch

515
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: in his career. He's his his predominant fastball is a sinker.

516
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: Now we've just talked, we talked in the first segment

517
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Speaker 1: about he's pitching so differently now that it may not

518
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 1: be that may not be a thing, but he is.

519
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: They have got the fifth lowest ground ball rate in

520
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: baseball and they have the eighth highest flyball rate. So

521
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: it maybe as it worked out from that situation that

522
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: they thought this pitching staff is a ton of ground balls,

523
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: But it has worked out in the fact that the

524
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: flyballs that are being hit. Are being hit to Jake

525
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: Myers and Cam Smith, who are very good in the outfield.

526
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: They're not being hit to hose Al two.

527
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you know Lance, you know he's had

528
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: a forty four ground ball percentage, certainly not as high

529
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Speaker 2: as he used to be. Do you know how many

530
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: sinkers he's thrown to lefties this year?

531
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess like five two.

532
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. But fun fact on his on his this is silly.

533
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: On his curve this year, he has a fifty eight

534
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: percent with which is silly. I mean, I get why

535
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: he doesn't throw it every time. I would if I

536
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 2: had that pitch, I would just throw it every time

537
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: and dare somebody to hit it. But ironically, his stuff

538
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: works best when he throws the sinker that's hittable because

539
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: you get those swings and you just hope it's soft

540
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: contact when they do hit the sinker so that it

541
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: sets up well, you got to swing at anything that

542
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: starts at the knees because normally I'm throwing a sinker

543
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: there and you're just whiffing a ton on those curve

544
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: balls and sliders. So yeah, I mean the fact that

545
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: they've been able to hide all two Bay that much

546
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: with the fifth low's ground ball rate speaks to the

547
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: scouting and analytics staff that is correctly predicting how often

548
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: balls are being hit out there, and some luck too obviously,

549
00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: but working so far, we'll see. I did. I did

550
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: want to point out that when Zach Dezenzo, you know,

551
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: went on the IL, at first it was just his

552
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: hand hurts, and then we yelled on the internet all

553
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: day and our our clips from here went out and

554
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: they printed out web MD for you like two days

555
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: later for him, they gave him a full diagnosis and

556
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: I liked too that they said, and we have scheduled

557
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: him for reimaging in two weeks. Like they somebody somebody

558
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: saw something I don't. I'm not going to take credit

559
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: from here specifically, but they definitely changed something this week

560
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: on how to communicate injuries.

561
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: As I told someone on social media that said the

562
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: same thing to me, when you hit rock bottom, there

563
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: really is nowhere to go but up. And what happened

564
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: last weekend has to qualify at rock bottom. Like they

565
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: they could not continue the way that they were going

566
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: on with the communication, the lack of transparency, things like that,

567
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: because as we discussed they had lost all benefit of

568
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: the doubt. No one believed them. It was funny. Even

569
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: when they detailed that Zach Dezenzo update, I don't think

570
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: anyone Like every response I got was still no way,

571
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: Like we'll see him in June of twenty twenty eight,

572
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: Like he had eight different broken bones that we'll find

573
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: out about in twenty twenty seven, Like yeah, but they've

574
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do. Like but but again,

575
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: if we're gonna sit here and yell about them and

576
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: be mad, you've got to give them credit. If this

577
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: is the beginning of a different way of doing things.

578
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: And I also hear and saying like that, that was

579
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: welcome and that was all we needed. We have not

580
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: asked once about Zach Dezenzo since that statement came out,

581
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Speaker 1: Like I'm.

582
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Speaker 2: Not gonna think about him for two more weeks. No,

583
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: let me know how the imaging goes, right, update me.

584
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 2: Then that's all takes. That's all we're asking for, just

585
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: little little bit there. But I did crack up at

586
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: specifically saying and we have scheduled him for reimaging. Don't worry. Well,

587
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: we learned our lesson. Will look at the hand again

588
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: before starting the comeback process.

589
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: For those that want to or on Alvarez update, I

590
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: don't really have one other than that he is not

591
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: on the road trip, which doesn't mean a whole lot,

592
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: but that he's not on the road trip means he's

593
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: back in Houston doing whatever. I have not I legitimately have.

594
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: We have not asked a question about or on Alvarez

595
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: since we've been here, because it just seems like, right now,

596
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: that's one you just leave alone, like let it, let

597
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: it fester, let it kind of settle for a couple

598
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: of days. We may have to ask today just as

599
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: he picked up a bat, what's he doing? So maybe

600
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: we'll have something more today. But he is not on

601
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: the road trip, which means I don't think anyone thought

602
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: he was being activated on this road trip, but he

603
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: certainly will not be because he is not with the team.

604
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: Other than that, don't really have much of an update,

605
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: and don't really expect to have much within the next

606
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: couple of days.

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Speaker 2: So he's at sixty five percent healed now instead of

608
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: sixty percent since they had it nailed down, So specifically.

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00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: I'll see if he's like sixty eight point six percent

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00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: or sixteen year Oh yeah, how is it. I'm gonna

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00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: ask Dana how the calcification is the calcification up to

612
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: seventy five percent? Now I don't know, but that would

613
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: that would require them to take another image of his

614
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: hand to see that. So hope they can get that

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Speaker 1: So were you surprise? I mean it's we in these

630
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: days against a team like the Pirates that is awful,

631
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Speaker 1: Like you don't learn a ton about teams in these

632
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: sort of series, just because the Astros are gonna run

633
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: out there every night and be the far more superior team.

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00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: I know they got shut out last night, but ignore that.

635
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: You don't learn a ton. But it was interesting to

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Speaker 1: see Sean Duban come in to protect a one nothing

637
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: lead in the seventh inning of Tuesday's game that had

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Speaker 1: been that had been a spot that was reserved for

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Speaker 1: Brian King. Brian King was available because he started to

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Speaker 1: warm up during the inning that Sean Dubin pitched. Sean

641
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Speaker 1: Duban through a scoreless inning, handed it off to Brian

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00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: and Brady Josh Hater game game over Joe a Spota afterward,

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Speaker 1: I asked, just kind of what do you like about

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Speaker 1: the matchup? Obviously, the Pirates had a run of righties

645
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Speaker 1: at the at the bottom of their order, and Sean

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Speaker 1: Duban's right handed pitcher, Brian King had When he is good,

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Speaker 1: he's honestly been better against right handed hitters and left

648
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: handed hitters, so he's kind of platoon neutral. So that

649
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: argument doesn't carry a ton of weight because King can

650
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: get both sides the plate out as good as this

651
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: bullpen has been. Tyler like a they were never going

652
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: to stay as good as they were the whole season,

653
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 1: and you saw that in the Rais Series. They're gonna

654
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: have some blow ups. Every bullpen in baseball does, like

655
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: no bullpen is gonna have like a sub to five

656
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: r all year. But I think it speaks to the

657
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: fact that this bullpen has a lot of interchangeable parts.

658
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: Behind Brian Abrad, you and Josh Hater like a brall,

659
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: you and Hater are gonna pitch you eighth in the

660
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: ninth when they're available. Other than that, like, I don't

661
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: think there is a set like I don't think they

662
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: have a fire Well, they have a fireman who comes

663
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: into firemen, but they don't have like a fireman to

664
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: put out a big situation six. They don't like that

665
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: used to be like Chris Devinski back in the day,

666
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: used to be Will Harris back in the day come

667
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: on like the that they would bring in with two

668
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: on and one out and the sixth inning and they

669
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: would somehow get out of it. They don't have that guy.

670
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: That guy has not really established himself. But maybe they

671
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: don't need it because while it may not be like

672
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: specific roles set like they've got a lot of interchangeable

673
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: parts back there that they can Joe a spot and

674
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: Josh Miller can mix and match to react to platoon advantages,

675
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: react to what certain hitters do well. I think that

676
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: was an indication that like the only set roles in

677
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: this bullpen belonged to Brian Abradio and Josh Hader.

678
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, uh that game, I mean I talked about

679
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: it on Twitter. Five point forty is fake baseball time.

680
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: I don't baseball didn't start till seven. I'm very upset

681
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: with these games starting so really, but it did allow

682
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: me the game was done. I hadn't even put my

683
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: kids to bed yet, and by the time they were done,

684
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: I came out and I watched, you know, the the

685
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: rest of the postgame show, and then I'm gonna be honest,

686
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: I didn't even know they did this, but they follow

687
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: you goobers around in the locker room, and you can

688
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: just hear yourself. I heard you mumbling off camera asking

689
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: Joe about Duban and the answer that he gave. I

690
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: really liked. He said, well, I had him up in

691
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: the inning before, and if I was gonna bring him

692
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 2: in a leverage situation, then why would I not bring

693
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: him in in a clean inning. And to me, what

694
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 2: that's doing is one highlighting their interchangeable parts, but two

695
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: like that's that's good managing to give a confidence boost

696
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: to say after like I trusted him the inning before

697
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: with runners on, why would I not trust him because

698
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: the inning is one inning later, Like he was ready

699
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: to go. I was happy with him to come in then,

700
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: So I'll bring him in now. And I think that's

701
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: a real confidence boost to tell your pictures like, yeah,

702
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: I trust you to get out whatever inning it's in.

703
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: I mean that is the anything about bullpen hierarchy is

704
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: like the outs count the same no matter what inning

705
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: it is, Like you still have to get twenty seven

706
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: of them. So there's no difference actually in the sixth

707
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: and seventh inning other than like a you know, pecking

708
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: order where you pump yourself up. And so I liked it.

709
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, bringman, he's been he's been great this year.

710
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: So it was Brian King. So I didn't think he

711
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: said anything that was like I prefer dubin over. You know.

712
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: It wasn't like a reordering of things. It was just

713
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: saying we got a bunch of good arms down there.

714
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: He was ready to go, so I'll put him out

715
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: there and it worked.

716
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we often talk about like who's in the

717
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: who's in the inner circle, who's in the bullpen, leverage,

718
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: you know, circle of trust, and I think they're like

719
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: you could legitimately make a claim that there's like five

720
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: guys in it, and it's I think Dubin we saw

721
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, Dubin's now a member. I think you'd say

722
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: Steven okerts pro probably in there. You don't see Steven

723
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: Ochret come in in a bunch of like advantage games,

724
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: but you see him come in a lot of games

725
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: where they're either tied or down one, which is like

726
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: to me, counts as leverage because like if you're down

727
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: one run, like all it takes is one swing and

728
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: it's a tie game, and like the like the game

729
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: is still very much in the balance. You could count

730
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: Stephen Ochert in there, Brian King's there, and then I

731
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: bray you and Hater obviously. So I mean, I think

732
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: those are the five guys that like have really distinguished

733
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: themselves as trustworthy, like I can bring them in. And

734
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: that's not even to talk about Bennett's SUSA, who is

735
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean quietly been very very good. I mean he's

736
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: throwing some lower leverage spots. But I think again they

737
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: have they have constructed a bullpen that, as Josh Hater

738
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: so eloquently put a couple of weeks ago, Like it's

739
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: not very traditional, Like they've got four lefties down there.

740
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: Hater's one of them, but like they've got four lefties,

741
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: all of whom are really good at getting righty's out too,

742
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: So like they can do a lot of different things

743
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: with how they mix and match. You know, they throw

744
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: a ton of fastballs, but it's not high velocity fastballs.

745
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: They get the few they get only I think the

746
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: Blue Jays give up more contact, give up less contact

747
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: in their bullpen than the Astros. So like it sounds

748
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: pretty simple, but like they throw a bunch of fastballs,

749
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: they miss bats and they get whiffs. Like I mean,

750
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for in a bullpen. They may

751
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: not do it the traditional way, but I think that's

752
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: an advantage for them. Have yeause, in so many instances

753
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: you see like teams like they're always trying to stay

754
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: away from certain guys inverage spots, and like I don't

755
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: think you know, there's maybe one or two guys down

756
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: there that you like, kind of recoil a little bit

757
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: if it's a leverage game and they have to come in.

758
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: But by and large, like I think Joe and Josh

759
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: Miller are pretty comfortable with bringing any body in this

760
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: bullpen in a leverage situation.

761
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, like you said, bullpens have those inner circle guys.

762
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: The Astros have two very clear ones. Bullpens also have

763
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: white flag guys, and uh, you know there's some bullpens

764
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: where it's like this guy jogs in. You know, that

765
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: team is basically saying, if a miracle happens, great, but

766
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: if now we're just trying to get through this. The

767
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: Ashers only have one right now, and it's Forced Whitley, unfortunately,

768
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: But there's nobody else in that bullpen that even if

769
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: they come in in the fourth inning, you're like, oh,

770
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: they're punting on this game. Like everybody who's coming out,

771
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 2: You're like, all right, this guy's gonna get out. We'll

772
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 2: see what happens. And honestly, I think over the course

773
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: of a season, it's probably even more important to have

774
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 2: fewer white flag guys than it is to have more

775
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 2: leverage guys, because, like you said a lot of times,

776
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: it almost becomes a crutch when you've got super high

777
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: leverage guys because you're almost nervous to bring them in

778
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 2: because you're always thinking about the next game having guys,

779
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: you know, like the Asher's having the bullpen where it's like,

780
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: all right, we'll throw this guy today, but that's okay

781
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: because we have four more of them that you can

782
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: throw to. You know, you're not burning your guys. You've

783
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: got enough guys that are just above average that can

784
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: come in and get out and you're not worried about it.

785
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: And it's the reason that the Ashers have more come

786
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: from behind wins than anybody else because they don't they

787
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: don't get out of games often. I say that knowing

788
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: that they just lost two football scorers to the race

789
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 2: last week. But you know, even when they're down three

790
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: to one whatever in the fifth inning, they're still bringing

791
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: in guys that are going to keep the score there

792
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: and allow the Astros to come back. And they've done

793
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: it over and over and over again this year. And

794
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: the reason they've been able to do that is the

795
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: guys who are coming in in the fifth, sixth, and

796
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 2: seventh inning are interchangeably good.

797
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: I mean you saw it on Wednesday night, Like Ryan

798
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: Gusto leaves with a three nothing. He left with the

799
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: three nothing deficit and like it's steams it. Yeah, Like

800
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: I mean, if the Ashers could have found a way

801
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 1: to hit whoever, Mike Burrows is like like they kept

802
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: that game, Like all they needed was a bloop, a

803
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: walk and a blast and the game's tied. Like and

804
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: that's a testament to the bullpen. And I mean, look,

805
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: Force Whitley's not been good, but like let's also like

806
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: understand that, like he is the white flag guy, Like

807
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: you're not wrong, but like he may have like low

808
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: key the best overall stuff in the bullpen.

809
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: It makes no sense that he's bad. It makes me

810
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: so mad because he comes out pumping ninety eight with

811
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: just like Looney Tunes, yeah, breaking ball stuff, and then

812
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: you look up and he's given up five runs in

813
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: an inning and two thirds. You're like, how are they

814
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: doing that? But I you know, hopefully he figures that

815
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: out too. But yeah, I mean they've they've been good.

816
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like and when your white flag guy

817
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: was like the best pitching prospect in baseball at one

818
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: point and like literally has like I think Joe spot

819
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: has said it once, like on the last homestand when

820
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: someone had to ask like where Force Whitley's kind of

821
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: standing was, and like he I think he stopped himself

822
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: from saying the best stuff in the bullpen, but he

823
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: was started to say that, and he's not wrong like

824
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: Josh Hater, obviously it's in a league of his own.

825
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: But like Forrest Whitley may legit have like on par

826
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: with Brian a Bray level quality of stuff. Now, you

827
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: can have as much good quality of stuff as you want.

828
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: If it gets hit, it gets hit, like you got

829
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: to command it, you got to know how to sequence

830
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: it and use it. But that's another like that just

831
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: kind of I think to me underscores kind of the

832
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: absurdity and just what they have down there, because they

833
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: really do have a nice mix of a lot of

834
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: different things that they can bring in in a lot

835
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: of different situations that'll help them out. I don't think

836
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna need the bullpen tonight. I said it the

837
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: last time, and I was almost right. I would not

838
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: be surprised if Fromberveldez no hits this team, like the

839
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: Pirates are awful, and this lineup is the only lineup

840
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: that is scoring less runs per game than the Pirates

841
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: as the Rockies, and the Rockies may be the worst

842
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 1: team in organized baseball history. Like this could we could

843
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: have a sub two hour game and Fromerveldez could flirt

844
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: with his because this and when you look at it

845
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: to a lot of their better hitters are left like

846
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: Brian Reynolds is left handed, but it could get Spencer

847
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: Horowitz er clean up hitters left handed, Like it could

848
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: get interesting tonight that like I would would, I would

849
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: tune in. It could get interesting tonight.

850
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: The ghost of Andrew McCutcheon is batting second for them,

851
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: so and he's like one of the better hitters on

852
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: the team, which is sad. And speaking of Force Whitley,

853
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 2: O'Neil Cruz wins the Forrest Whitley Memorial Raw Stuff Award.

854
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: I mean, every time I see a new Cruise, I'm like,

855
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: this is the best baseball player I've ever seen. And

856
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 2: you look at his stats and he's hitting two twenty

857
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: and he's bad outfielder, and you're like, how is that possible?

858
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: He has he has literally the hardest hit ball in

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Speaker 2: the stad cast era or the hardest home run he

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Speaker 2: had that like a week ago. He's so fast, he's

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Speaker 2: like eight feet tall. I don't understand why he's not amazing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much fantasy football you play, but

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Speaker 2: I was. I was telling somebody the other day, he

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Speaker 2: feels like Kyle Pitts to me where it's like every year, like,

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Speaker 2: look at him, look look at him running out there.

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Speaker 2: How can he not be good? And he just he

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Speaker 2: just isn't for some reason. But yes, that that team

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Speaker 2: is bad. Uh Fromber is good. We shall see now.

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Speaker 2: When fromber gives up six runs and four innings, everyone

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Speaker 2: blamed Chandler. It is exclusively his fault. It is not

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Speaker 2: Fromber's fault. We're recording this five hours before the game.

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Speaker 2: It is Chandler's fault. If he blows up.

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Speaker 1: And knowing, knowing the way this is gone, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you know, what'll happen like that, You know, like they'll

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Speaker 1: get like four cheap infield hits in the first two

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Speaker 1: innings from Berle just implode and like it'll be a disaster.

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Speaker 2: So well, what's funny is last game you said the

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Speaker 2: same thing, like might be a no hitter in the

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Speaker 2: second pitch of the game, was a home run and

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Speaker 2: I was already It's like you idiot would And then

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Speaker 2: he did and give up.

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Speaker 1: Anything for the rest of the game. It's like, I

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Speaker 1: guess you were pretty close to the best game of

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Speaker 1: his life. After like the second pitch, I hit one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen off the bat. I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: in I don't think he's in danger of that tonight,

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Speaker 1: but who knows. It's baseball. The Astros lost to Mike

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Speaker 1: Burrows last night. Anything can happen, and when it does happen,

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Speaker 1: you will hear about it on Crush City Territory. We'll

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Speaker 1: come back later this week with a couple more episodes

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Speaker 1: recapping the Guardian series, talking about the pharmcistem a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and will as always, if you want to follow me

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Speaker 1: the comments got spicy on the last episode. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that are very frustrated with a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things. They hate me, they hate the medical staff, Tyler.

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Speaker 1: I believe they said. One of them said, like they're

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Speaker 1: tired of the podcast, because all you do is just

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Speaker 1: agree with everything I say. So we need to fight,

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Speaker 1: no I don't. We need to fight in the next

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Speaker 1: one just to get people more engage and more enthused.

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Speaker 1: So we have that coming up in a future episode,

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Speaker 1: so we hope that you'll tune in listen to that,

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Speaker 1: and as always, thanks for listening and see you guys soon.

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