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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff. This isn't three and Out podcast. The NFL

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Speaker 1: season officially back, team's report and left and right. Aaron

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Speaker 1: going on. Deshaun Watson showed up. Hell he's back as well.

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma Texas said I'm out officially. Uh some other football thoughts,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, keep food on my table. Trying

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Speaker 1: Let's rock and roll. Aaron Rodgers is a packer and

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Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere, and it reminds me of something

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Speaker 1: over Corona. I have spent on a healthy amount of

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Speaker 1: time on YouTube, and I have watched I was born

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Speaker 1: think there's something with Corona. I've read some different articles.

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Speaker 1: Nostalgia is a big part of society right now, people

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Speaker 1: course not. Is their drama, of course there is. We're

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Speaker 1: Matt But if Aaron Rodgers wanted to retire a packer, like,

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Speaker 1: they're going to compete the next several years and we'll see,

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Speaker 1: I know everyone's gonna talking he's gonna get trade after

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Speaker 1: He's irrelevant. Like, just stick it out with the packers.

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Speaker 1: Figure out a way to deal with these guys again

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Speaker 1: if they didn't cross the line, which honestly, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: like you're being a pretty big drama queen here, and

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Speaker 1: Your best chance to win more is in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: It always has been. You should have wont to last.

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Speaker 1: multiple once. That's the way quarterback trades usually play out,

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Speaker 1: There weren't a lot of people lined up to get him,

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Speaker 1: so the Colts didn't have to pay that much. Now,

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Speaker 1: don't learn like some running backs look sweet in shorts

428
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Speaker 1: and T shirt. They're fast, it look good in the

429
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Speaker 1: open field. Well, what's it like when uh, you know,

430
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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams fills in the hole and hits his helmet

431
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Speaker 1: right you know where you're you know where your Breathe

432
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: hit your right in the stomach, takes out your legs.

433
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: You just we don't know. And it's the best part

434
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: about training camp. It's just you learned so much about

435
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: guys that you want to like, or hell, maybe you like,

436
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm kind of down on this guy, and

437
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: then he starts making plays. If you make plays and

438
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: you prove you can execute in games, you you have

439
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 1: an NFL career. It is just that simple. And if

440
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: you're an older player and there's a young guy at

441
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: your position who is at worst you're equal, you're in trouble.

442
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: And people start knowing it early on in camp, right

443
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: once you know, several days of practice, like we got

444
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: something here, and when they start thinking we got something here,

445
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: people's jobs are, you know, you know, up for debate

446
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: in these in these meeting rooms that we used to

447
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: get in Hard Knocks, you know, the first ten years

448
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks we don't get anymore. It's all state

449
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: run media now, right like whatever the maybe Jerry will

450
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: be a little bit better, But for the most part,

451
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: you don't get the the coaches talking ship, get the

452
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: GMS talking ship, even though that really happens. That's reality

453
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: in these buildings, and it definitely happens over the next

454
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: month when you're when you're kind of all leading into

455
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: your fifty three man roster in your practice squad. It's

456
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Speaker 1: it's really my favorite part about training camp is just

457
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: truly because we say this word all the time, but

458
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: it's true competition. People fighting for their jobs and if

459
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: you do not do well enough, you will lose your job.

460
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't really happen in the other team sports. Okay,

461
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: college football is getting really kind of crazy, and uh,

462
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: Tuesday is Pack twelve media day, and I saw Coward

463
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: tweeted out that USC the Big Ten's already sniffing around,

464
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty clear that there is a

465
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Speaker 1: push and the SEC set the tone once again. Now

466
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Speaker 1: I don't know if Texas and Oklahoma reached out to them,

467
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: if the SEC reached out to them. Regardless of how

468
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: it happened, they're all on board and the balls rolling

469
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: and this thing, it sure as hell feels like it's

470
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Speaker 1: happening and it's going to change the college football landscape.

471
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: And I saw J Billis say something on my Twitter

472
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Speaker 1: timeline that the a c C would be crazy not

473
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Speaker 1: to try to merge with the SEC, and this was inevitable.

474
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: For a long period of time, there has been subtle growth.

475
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Speaker 1: Right started at the Pack eight, then it went to

476
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Speaker 1: the Pac ten, then it went to the Pack twelve,

477
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Big eight, Big ten, Big twelve. Right, the SEC has

478
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: added teams over the years. Right, A and M was

479
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: not originally an SEC team. You're either growing or you're dying. Right.

480
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: It's like in football, you're either improving or you're getting worse.

481
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: Nobody says the same. That's the way people in business think,

482
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: even when you make a lot of money. I've never

483
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Speaker 1: made a hundred million dollars, but if I ran a

484
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Speaker 1: business that was making a hundred million dollars, it would

485
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: be awesome. The first year, be cool, the second year.

486
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: By the third year, you start asking yourself, why are

487
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: we not growing? There's a reason Apple and Facebook and

488
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: Google they buy other companies. You ever heard of Instagram,

489
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Speaker 1: Facebook Bottom change their business? You ever heard of YouTube?

490
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: Google Bottom been pretty lucrative, beats by dre Apple, iTunes

491
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Speaker 1: all over that bad boy. You have to keep growing,

492
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: and the only way for these conferences to grow is

493
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Speaker 1: to add teams. Because you hit a finite number once

494
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: you get twelve fourteen teams. The amount of games you

495
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: can play, or the amount of games you can play

496
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: well if you add two more teams see big brands,

497
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: four more teams merged with a conference. Imagine if the A, C,

498
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: C and the SEC merged. Now that you have Texas

499
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma, you have Miami, you have Florida State, you

500
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: have Clemson, you have Duke, you have North Carolina. It's

501
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: like you'd have insane amount of potential inner coastal rivalries.

502
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: And when Colin talking about the Big Ten is already

503
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: sniffing around at USC. If I'm the Big Ten, why

504
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: wouldn't and I why wouldn't I try to get I

505
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: don't know, USC, Caller, Stanford, Washington and Oregon. Why wouldn't

506
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: I try to develop these super conferences? It just means

507
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: more money, more regions, more market share. That is where

508
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: we're headed. It's clear this is only gonna continue and

509
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Speaker 1: not everyone is gonna get an invite, Like Clemson, Florida State.

510
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: However this they're gonna be okay, Ohio State, Michigan, They're

511
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: gonna be fine, USC, Oregon, Washington. Whenever the dust settles,

512
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay. What about some of the random

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Speaker 1: teams m HM, Like is Utah just gonna be cool? Right? U?

514
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Speaker 1: C L A like, are we sure they're gonna be okay?

515
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't know cal or Stanford one of those teams.

516
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: If they get left at the altar, you never know.

517
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: So the SEC changed the game again, of course they

518
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Speaker 1: did there by four the most aggressive conference in the country.

519
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: We saw it during Corona and literally everyone else followed.

520
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: When I think about Corona and I think about aggression,

521
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: I think two things. I think Dana White, he set

522
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: the tone, and I think about the SEC and football.

523
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: They were even more aggressive than the National Football League.

524
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: They did not mess around. They played all their games,

525
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Speaker 1: and they printed cash. They made more money than every

526
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Speaker 1: other conference. Pact twelve. They had some teams to play

527
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Speaker 1: like three games. I mean, it was an embarrassment. It

528
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: really was. Honestly, as a PAC twelve guy, it's hard

529
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Speaker 1: for me to take the conference seriously after last year.

530
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: It really is. But they're gonna have to figure something out,

531
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: and they have a new commissioner. I think the Big

532
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: and is realizing. Like just a couple of years ago,

533
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Speaker 1: we went, you know what, the Big Ten, the top

534
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Speaker 1: of the Big Ten, the top of the SEC. They're

535
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Speaker 1: kind of equals. Now boom, you had Texas in Oklahoma.

536
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Speaker 1: They are no longer equals. They're actually not even really

537
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Speaker 1: comparable anymore. Because we already knew the SEC had Bama,

538
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Speaker 1: l s U, Georgia, and Florida. Now you add Texas

539
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Speaker 1: and Oklahoma, and like we talked about last week, just

540
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Speaker 1: because Texas doesn't win a lot of games doesn't mean

541
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Speaker 1: that they aren't printing cash. Now the Big Ten has

542
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Speaker 1: that Ohio State is as big of a brand as

543
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Speaker 1: there is in college football. Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin. These

544
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: are really really big deals. If i'm them, I'm circling

545
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: the best schools out west because they're kind of a line.

546
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: They're both the two conferences view themselves as kind of

547
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: the kings of academia. They love academia. It's a really

548
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: big deal of them, let's face it. Like, and people

549
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: in the South get really mad at me. I'm not

550
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: saying your schools are bad, but you guys prioritize sports

551
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: much more than we do out here. Like if you

552
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Speaker 1: go on you U C. L A's campus, Like, I'm sorry,

553
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: they care more about academics than sports. I don't. I'm

554
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: not saying I do. Now I understand that George is

555
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: a good school. Alabama is a good school, football comes first.

556
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: That is not the way it works out here. That's hell,

557
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: it's not the way it worked in the Big Ten.

558
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for Justin Fields, Jim Harbaugh, uh Ryan Day,

559
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: they might not even have football ask fall. And they

560
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: were cool with it because the academic elites were the

561
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: ones pulling the trigger. They were the ones set in

562
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: the tone in the A c. C and definitely the SEC.

563
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: The football coaches got to make the calls, or at

564
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: least they got to influence the president, like I'm sorry,

565
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: the presidents at the university's and the Big Ten and

566
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: the Big and the Pact twelve didn't care what the

567
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: football coaches said, because I'll promise you having known some

568
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: of the football coaches in the Pac twelve and just

569
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: watching Ryan Day and hardball last year, they would have

570
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: gladly played a full season. But it wasn't an option

571
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: because academia sets the tone. So when you look at it,

572
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: you go the Big Ten in the Pac twelve, like,

573
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: shouldn't they merge? They have, they have a lot of

574
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: fundamental beliefs. Now, the Big ten is way better than

575
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve right now, but couldn't they you know,

576
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: the rising tide lift all boats. Couldn't the Big ten

577
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: kind of help the Pack twelve out? And now again

578
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying piggybacking picking just the major brands, obviously USC, Oregon, Washington.

579
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: I would just pick you know, either cal or Stanford,

580
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: just given that the Bay area is massive. Hell, you

581
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: could go Arizona in Colorado. Boom, you got a conference.

582
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: And this is what happens to the Oregon States, the

583
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: Washington States. This is all, you know, an educated guest

584
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: by me, But you can already see where some of

585
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: these programs are gonna get left at the altar. And

586
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: we we've been talking for the last several years about

587
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: power five vers not power five. Power five is not

588
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: going to exist. There might be like a power too.

589
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: The Big twelve, they're fucked. It's over. You can't lose

590
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: Texas in Oklahoma. You know, it's it's like taking Tom

591
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: Brady away from the page. It's like by by playoffs

592
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: it would have been if Aaron Rodgers didn't show up

593
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: for the Packers, Like you're screwed. That's what Oklahoma and

594
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: Texas mean to that conference. But specifically on the field, Oklahoma,

595
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: it's a game changer. And at least like even the

596
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: die hard big twelves of other you know, fans of

597
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: other programs realized they're screwed. Now Iowa State's a program

598
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: that boom can jump to the Big ten. They make

599
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. But and then you get a

600
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: geographical rivalry right there with Iowa and Iowa State, a

601
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: little bit like I'm talking about with the A C

602
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: C and the SEC. But this is all inevitable that

603
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: these schools at a at a slower rate have been

604
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: or these conferences have been adding schools over you know,

605
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: the decades. It's now just accelerating because there is infinitely

606
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: more money. Given the value of life sports, it's never

607
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: been more value and really the value of football, because

608
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: the biggest sport in America by a mile is the NFL.

609
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: You know what the second biggest sport is. It's not baseball,

610
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: it's not basketball, it's not it's college football. The college

611
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: football games do the second highest ratings of any sporting

612
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: event beside the NFL. So it makes sense that with

613
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: the money is only gonna keep growing, that these programs

614
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: are going to try to merge with these other programs

615
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: in the top conferences to make more money, like I'm sorry.

616
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: Like Oklahoma, like I'm indifferent if the Big twelve would

617
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: have stay it doesn't matter to me. Though. I think

618
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool adding Oklahoma and Texas because I think

619
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Speaker 1: it's gonna make Oklahoma even a better program. And I've

620
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: gotten had some conversations with college football coaches. Think Oklahoma

621
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: might struggle a little bit, I pushed back. I think

622
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: they would transition pretty easily because offensively they can hang

623
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Speaker 1: with anyone. Their problem is defensively, well, what immediately changes

624
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: when you get to the SEC. You recruited different defensive

625
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: player and they will immediately do that. Now, Texas has

626
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: struggled on the field, a tough transition, just like I'm

627
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: not saying if you put USC in the Big Ten

628
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: they get their ask kick. Ohio State would pummel USC,

629
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Speaker 1: Penn State, Wisconsin, Iowa like s C would be in trouble.

630
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: Now once they got a new coach, maybe they'd figure

631
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Speaker 1: it out. I think Oregon and Washington would actually have

632
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: a much better chance at least, and we see it

633
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: this year and then look at this. Oregon plays Ohio State,

634
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: Washington plays Michigan. Honestly, it feels like their programs are

635
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: already kind of aligned. It makes too much sense. It

636
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: just feels like, get ready because this stuff is gonna

637
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: just really accelerate and happen fast. Don't be shocked when

638
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: we got like two major conferences in two years. It's

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Speaker 1: basically like the NFL, the the NFC, and the a

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Speaker 1: f C. That's what feels like what's coming in college football. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail back, Let's uh fire in the d M

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Speaker 1: s at John Middlecoff. Is the Instagram pretty easy? You

643
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: fire in? You can ask me absolutely anything. Weimer real

644
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: estate investments. Hey, John, have a mail back question for you.

645
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Speaker 1: It feels like what we were seeing with Rogers and

646
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: DeVante with the last dance post after contract negotiations stop

647
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: with Davante is that they're either hitching their wagon to

648
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Speaker 1: each other. Number one, I don't understand how this works

649
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: out well for Davanta. What team is gonna have cats

650
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: based for both? Should his agent be fired for concerning

651
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: himself like that? I just don't see how this helps him.

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00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: Number two, what we're seeing with Rodgers unprecedented. I can't

653
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Speaker 1: think of another player in history that doesn't care about

654
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: winning or money. Well, this part you asked this question

655
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: before we've had the resolution here. I think going back

656
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: to DeVante, he was not going to sign a contract

657
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: when he's gonna be making less than DeAndre Hopkins. And

658
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: remember when Hopkins was traded to the Cardinals, they didn't

659
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: give him market value. They gave him his weird contracts.

660
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: They basically gave him a short term deal million a

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00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: year for like two years, so he makes over twenty

662
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year. He got a stupid amount guaranteed,

663
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: so Davante wanted that much money. Now, I think it's

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Speaker 1: a tough spot for DeVante. Do you want to just

665
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Speaker 1: let it play out? Davante Adams is never gonna hit

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Speaker 1: free agency. So while Schefter reported today that like Rogers,

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00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: they've come to an agreement that they took away two

668
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: thousand twenty three and next year, whether he wants to

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Speaker 1: get traded or stay, they'll figure it out. Then DeVante

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00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: is gonna be a free agent after this season. But

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Speaker 1: do you know what they will do if they can't

672
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: get Davante, you know, extended, They will franchise tag him.

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Speaker 1: And the going rate is set for a guy of

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams caliber. We saw Jamal Adams we saw Jalen

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00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: Ramsey and we saw Khalil Mack traded. They all got

676
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: traded for two first round picks. Now, DeVante is a

677
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: little older than those guys and is honest third contract,

678
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: but he's only twenty eight years old, and he has

679
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: an elite, dominant, high character guy, zero issues, who's been

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00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: relatively durable throughout his career. So I would say at

681
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Speaker 1: minimum the going rate for DeVante on the open market,

682
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: because he's never gonna hit free agency and just walk

683
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Speaker 1: for free. That is never going to happen unless he

684
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: has a catastrophic injury or something. And to me, that

685
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: goes back to if you're Davante and they're offering you

686
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: a seventy eight million dollars guaranteed, you probably need to

687
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Speaker 1: take it. But if he wants to play this year out,

688
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: they are going to franchise tag him if he won't

689
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Speaker 1: sign a deal, and then even if they are open

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00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: to trading him, I think the bidding starts at a

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00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: first round pick and multiple tooths that that would, to me,

692
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: would be the minimum. So really, if you look at it,

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Speaker 1: if they're gonna blow it up after next season, you

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Speaker 1: get rid of Rogers and you get rid of Davanta

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Speaker 1: Rogers would fetch you probably three ones is assuming he

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Speaker 1: has another great season, even at thirty eight years old,

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00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: and DeVante a one and two twos like you, you

698
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: could get a boatload of picks Packers in a weird spot.

699
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Speaker 1: But I think the NFL stands for not for long.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even worried about next year. If I'm them,

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Speaker 1: I'm just all my chips are in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the table and we're trying to win the Super Bowl

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00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: this year, which clearly they are. Love the pod. What's

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Speaker 1: your take on the giants upcoming season? The impact of

705
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Speaker 1: a healthy say Kwan Barkley, And also off topic, which

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Speaker 1: cryptocurrencies do you place your money? Well, with crypto, I'm

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Speaker 1: only in one and I'm an a D A Cordono

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Speaker 1: and I own you know, I think about twelve thousand

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00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: coins and it just got down to a dollar like

710
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: last week when everything was dipping. I didn't have a

711
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Speaker 1: lot of capital or I would about more, But now

712
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: it's back up to like a buck forty. I think

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Speaker 1: as I'm recording this, I loved a cordon I'm a

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Speaker 1: believer in that, and uh, I think it'll be ten

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Speaker 1: dollars within the next couple of years. But I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I don't play the short term game with cryptocurrency, and

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Speaker 1: I don't pretend to be like some crypto genius. I'm

718
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Speaker 1: playing the long game. I just keep throwing some cash cash,

719
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Speaker 1: and just keep dumping money in there and just gonna

720
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Speaker 1: let us see where the cream goes. My take on

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Speaker 1: the Giant's upcoming season with stake Kwon Barkley, I mean,

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Speaker 1: when he's healthy, sa Kwan is an elite player because

723
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Speaker 1: past protection sucks, but he's an elite runner if you

724
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Speaker 1: remember two years ago when he got hurt. I guess

725
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: it was early last season. Their offensive line stunk so

726
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: there were no holes. But adding the two wide receivers

727
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: like offensively, like Daniel Jones, has no excuses. They have

728
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Speaker 1: a really good defense, really good to be strong. They

729
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Speaker 1: have a solid defense, and they have weapons. And say

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Speaker 1: Kwan is you know he's a big time talent. Lovesta

731
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: Kuan needs a past protect better, but you know he should.

732
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a thousand yard level guy all the

733
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Speaker 1: way from Sydney, Australia. You were keeping me saying during

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Speaker 1: the lockdowns here, isn't it pretty crazy that July one

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Speaker 1: and Sydney Australia and Australian Generals lockdown. I would probably

736
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Speaker 1: uh lose my mind. I have family in Arizona, so

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Speaker 1: definitely would love to get a beer one day when

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Speaker 1: I can make it out there. Anyway, I was wondering,

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Speaker 1: who is the best player you personally scouted in your

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Speaker 1: career of being a scout that you look back on,

741
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Speaker 1: that you push for the Eagles to draft. Uh. Honestly,

742
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Speaker 1: the thing I was most proud of still to this day,

743
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: is my second year I was doing pro scouting. And

744
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: they also allow you to do you don't allow you

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Speaker 1: that you have to do Canada and at the time

746
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Speaker 1: there was this USFL, I think it was called, and

747
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: Sacramento had this team like the Sacramento Mountain Lions, and

748
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: they had this guy named Andrew Sendejo. And because in

749
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: the draft there are no diamonds in the rough, and

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00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: they weren't really listening to what I was saying, like

751
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: obviously like I would give my evaluations, but it wasn't.

752
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: They weren't gonna like if they were going to pick

753
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: the players because they liked the guy. But I went

754
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: to Lewis Riddeck I'm like this, Andrewson Daho, guy could play.

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00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: We didn't even have him in our system. Ten years later,

756
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: the du had like a decade career. But you know,

757
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: Lewis didn't listen to me. I still did this day.

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00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: Give him ship um. And if I ever meet Andrewson Dajo,

759
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: I'd say I was all over you when you were

760
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: in the minor league football because he could play. He

761
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: was just a hard hitter. He stood out and then

762
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: he went on to play for you know, several teams.

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00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer liked him. No big deal question for you

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Speaker 1: and the conference relignement in college football? Do you think

765
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: it's possible one of the major conferences dissolves and we

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00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: have a formation of four power conferences. Uh, it could

767
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: make the playoffs seating simpler. Love the podcap with the

768
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: great work. As I mentioned earlier, I think what's inevitable

769
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: is an a f C and NFC for college football.

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Speaker 1: I think the Big twelve, Gonzo, I think the Pact twelve,

771
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Speaker 1: Big ten Merge. I think the Big twelve. The extra

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Speaker 1: schools joined the SEC in a c C and the

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Speaker 1: Pact twelve and the Big Tent, and you just get

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00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: two massive you know, sides, and then you kind of

775
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: that's how what ends up happening. I think that's where

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00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: we're headed now. That might not happen for five years,

777
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: ten years, but that's where we're going because it's gonna

778
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: keep dissolving now. I don't know what happens to the

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Speaker 1: Nonpower fives. I would do everything possible if I'm a

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Speaker 1: Boise State, if I'm a Cincinnati, if I'm a ucf

781
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: uh Saydeo States, the Fresno States, like, I don't know

782
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 1: what happens to them, because if they are not able

783
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: to get in the big club, into the country club

784
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: of the of the Power two conferences, you know they're

785
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: gonna get screwed. As a Pats fan, my question is

786
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: regarding Mac Jones. Kyle Shanahan, Bill Belichicks, and Josh mcdanields

787
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: all like mac Jones enough to either consider drafting him

788
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: with the first pick or drafted him. Do you think

789
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: it's possible that this year, that a year from now,

790
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Speaker 1: Mac Jones is viewed as a justin Herbert of this class,

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00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: Trey Lance is like twa of last year's class, with

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00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and company be in trouble. Thanks again, it's

793
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: a good question. Why I think that is impossible is

794
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: because a big reason Justin Herbert had a lot of

795
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: success is physically, he's a freak, so he could run around,

796
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: make plays and he hit on I think he had

797
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: the most yards of passing touchdowns because a lot of

798
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: his touchdowns were like forty yard bombs. To His problem

799
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: is physically he looks tiny and he can't really move

800
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: mac Jones he's like six to he can't run, and

801
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a big arm, being at nine or practice.

802
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: Trey Lance is big and physical. I have a hard

803
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: time seeing mac Jones throw a bunch of bombs for touchdowns. Now,

804
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: could mac Jones have some success, for sure, could Tray

805
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: Lance struggle as a rookie. But physically those players don't compare.

806
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: Mac Jones has nothing in common with Justin Herbert, absolutely nothing.

807
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: Trey Lance has nothing in common with Toa. He's got

808
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: him by multiple inches, he's faster, he's got a way

809
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: bigger arm. So to me, part of the deal is

810
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Speaker 1: their physical attributes. Mac Jones doesn't have any. To me,

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Speaker 1: mac Jones, if he's gonna have a comp it's gonna

812
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: be like a Kirk Cousins type. Justin Herbert's more like

813
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen. I'm a Canadian Colts fan.

814
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Speaker 1: I think Chris Ballard is fantastic. He's so methodical in

815
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: his team building and doesn't get caught up in the hype.

816
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: Why do you think so many front offices struggled to

817
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: be like him? I think one thing Chris Ballard does

818
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: that's easier said than done is not try to hit

819
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: home runs. He just takes really solid football players. Look

820
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: at the DeForest Buckner trade. I don't think there's a

821
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: soul in the league beside Chris Ballard. Maybe Belichick, if

822
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: his team was close, might have done it. Probably not

823
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: would have traded the thirteenth overall pick for DeForest Buckner.

824
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Speaker 1: I've watched every snap DeForest Buckner play with the Niners.

825
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: I've interviewed him a couple of times. I've been around him.

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Speaker 1: He has a plus character, incredible human being, a massive individual,

827
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Speaker 1: and a fantastic football player. I would not have made

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Speaker 1: that trade if I was a GM, No chance, because

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Speaker 1: I don't see like I don't see like some all

830
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Speaker 1: time grade Hall of famer for overall pick. But I'm

831
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Speaker 1: looking at it. Wrong. Chris Ballard did and he was

832
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, I don't even I think he got shunned

833
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: on the Pro Bowl, but he was an elite player

834
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 1: for them. He's just trying to get guys that he knows,

835
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: worst case scenario are going to be really good. He

836
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: did it with Michael Pittman. He did it with Jonathan Taylor. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He just consistently doesn't He did it with Quinn Nelson

838
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Speaker 1: when he drafted a guard in the top ten. I

839
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Speaker 1: never would have done that. I fundamentally don't believe in

840
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Speaker 1: taking guards that eye. Quinn Nelson is gonna go the

841
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. So I think a lot of guys

842
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: in personnel always tried to hit home runs because that's

843
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: you know, the nature of sports. You want to get

844
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: the best possible players. And we get when I say we,

845
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: I think fans, I think general managers. I think scouts

846
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: can get consumed by upside right, what could be? We

847
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: do that in gambling. That's why I gamble on guys

848
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: to win PGA golf tournaments. I'll give you a hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars fifty to one that pays five thousand's like I

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Speaker 1: could win five thousand dollars I've hit him like two

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Speaker 1: winners in my life gambling on golf, I should just

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Speaker 1: play like you know someone to get in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: It's much easier to hit. But you know what, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't pay as well? That might pay three to one.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather fifty to one or three to one? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think a smart guy would tell you the likelihood

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Speaker 1: of hitting a fifty two one are slim to none.

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Speaker 1: The likelihood of hitting three to one if you've done

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Speaker 1: your research pretty good. The likelihood of just getting a

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Speaker 1: bunch of solid starters isn't that hard. Most people aren't

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Speaker 1: drafting like that. I think the Ravens historically have done

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Speaker 1: that pretty well, So I I think he just doesn't

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Speaker 1: overthink it and he doesn't get consumed by ceilings and upside,

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Speaker 1: which I trust me. I'm as guilty as anyone with that.

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Speaker 1: When you ask me who would I take in the

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Speaker 1: NBA draft, I take Jalen Green number one overall. I

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Speaker 1: think he has the highest highest ceiling. So if you

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Speaker 1: fall basketball and college basketball and he was a G

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Speaker 1: League player, that would be the guy I would take

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Speaker 1: if I was a GM number one overall. Do you

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Speaker 1: know who might be the best player in like a decade.

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Speaker 1: It could be jan Suggs, the dude from Gonzaga. Guy

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Speaker 1: is gonna go fourth or fifth. That's probably who Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard would take Jalen Suggs. You know he wouldn't overthink

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Speaker 1: the room. I love the show. You often talk about

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Speaker 1: how in football it's all about intangibles, work ethic, character.

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Speaker 1: Who is the football equivalent of shock face of the league?

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Speaker 1: Talent but questionable work ethic still great, but there is

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Speaker 1: a what if question? Roethlisberger. You just answered this question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I talked about Roethlisberger last week. It's Roethlisberger. I mean Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 1: I got in this argument with this guy in my

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Speaker 1: d m S who thinks like you're being too Harshllan Roethlisberger. Listen,

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Speaker 1: big Ben is one of my favorite players ever. But

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Speaker 1: this guy was like, he's not fat like he is

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Speaker 1: his you know the knock on. Roethlisberger's kind of chubby.

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Speaker 1: He's out of shape. Sometimes it never has mattered. He

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Speaker 1: was the biggest guy in the field. He had a

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Speaker 1: huge arm, But now that he's thirty years old, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. That's why the Rooney said get in shape.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna cut you, take a pay cut, or we're

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Speaker 1: gonna cut at you. Roethlisberger had never been told that,

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Speaker 1: because who the hell would cut Roethlisberger? Nobody? But finally

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Speaker 1: and it's we'll see, like there's a chance this year

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Speaker 1: he's just completely over the hill. Maybe he's good. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. But like for Shack, it did not end pretty.

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Speaker 1: His body broke down. What happened with Ben his body

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Speaker 1: started breaking down? Hell, it happened last year. Question for

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Speaker 1: the pod. Maybe I have completely lost my golf swing.

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Speaker 1: Back in April, I broke eight for the first time ever.

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Speaker 1: Since that day, I can't hit the ball, not talking

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Speaker 1: slices or hooks. The ball doesn't go in the air.

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Speaker 1: I just hit grounders. Looking at videos of the swing,

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Speaker 1: I seem to be going over the top, and he tips,

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Speaker 1: think about your right elbow. If you're right handed, touching

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Speaker 1: your body on the down swing, you want to drop

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Speaker 1: the club in the slot. I like to feel my

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Speaker 1: elbow against my body on my down swing. Now I

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Speaker 1: play a cut, but when I get over the topic

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Speaker 1: gets really ugly. I try to make and feel my

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Speaker 1: elbow and really the inside of like my I sept

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Speaker 1: I don't really have a tricept muscle, but that area

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Speaker 1: on my arm against my body and I fucking swing hard,

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Speaker 1: swing hard, drive through the ball. That's golf. Tips from

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