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Speaker 2: What is going on?

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Speaker 1: My people?

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Speaker 2: How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm John there's a podcast called three and Out. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk a.

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Speaker 2: Little football today.

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Speaker 1: I'm recording this at about five o'clock Wednesday afternoon. Why

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Speaker 1: I'm recording this intro. I just finished all the nuts

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Speaker 1: and bolts of the pod. But Aaron Rodgers has not signed.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has not signed, so we will We'll keep

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Speaker 1: an eye out on those two individuals. Didn't want to

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Speaker 1: discuss the Eagles and their exodus. And I saw some

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Speaker 1: people freaking out Minnesota adding a lot of people because

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Speaker 1: they got money was not paying Sam Darnold. You know

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Speaker 1: the Niners are they trying to pull a twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four bills And I gotta pump the brakes on that one.

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Speaker 1: And we will do a big mail bag as well.

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Speaker 1: I know I haven't done one in a couple of

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I just haven't at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire

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Speaker 1: in those dms. I also had to wait for my

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Speaker 1: just find some of your mail bag questions. Appreciate everyone

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Speaker 1: who has reached out again, but so we will do

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Speaker 1: a big mail bag today and keep those mail bag

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Speaker 1: questions coming. You guys know the drill at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in the DMS.

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Speaker 1: We will have Fougaizy Friday tomorrow. Hopefully a couple more

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Speaker 1: deals keep happening. I would love I wouldn't mind Russell

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Speaker 1: day on Thursday or even afternoon, I even at night.

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Speaker 1: I'll do something I don't care, but hoping it doesn't

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Speaker 2: But who knows.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we don't control this, And maybe Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: in no rush. As Adam Schefter said, like what are

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Speaker 1: but I do kind of agree, like you've kind of

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been talking for weeks now. These guys

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Speaker 1: It's one thing for normal humans to take a pay cut,

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Speaker 1: which actually impacts you. This is has zero impact on

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Speaker 1: these humans lives, but taking twenty thirty million dollars pay cuts,

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Speaker 1: little bit. I don't care how old or how poor

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Speaker 1: when you're used to making something. They're like, now I'm

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Speaker 2: Than what you're used to. You're like, damn. Still in

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Speaker 2: the same tax bracket though.

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Speaker 1: But you guys know the drill. Subscribe to the podcast

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Speaker 1: three and our podcasts. Subscribe to the YouTube channel, and

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Speaker 1: let's dive into the let's type in this show. Start

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Speaker 1: with the Eagles and Howie Roseman because you win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and everyone is sky high, rightfully, so second

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Speaker 1: then free agency tampering period Hits and Sweat gets a

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Speaker 1: football moneyball right now for the Eagles. And I would

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Speaker 1: of the biggest challenges being faced in the NFL and

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Speaker 1: how they can be overcome. Whatever challenge you're facing, Microsoft

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Speaker 1: This week, we're discussing the challenge faced by all these

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Speaker 1: teams to just signed big free agents because I was

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Speaker 1: part of a free agent class when I worked in

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Speaker 1: Philly called the Dream Team, and we brought in a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys and some of them did not fit

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Speaker 1: the scheme. Some of them just were over the hill

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Speaker 1: and couldn't play. And in the NFL, when you pay

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Speaker 1: a guy a lot of money, and most of these

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Speaker 1: contracts aren't crazy, right, thirty forty fifty million dollars, but

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, once you have signed that guy,

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Speaker 1: there are expectations on him to not only start, but

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Speaker 1: to play pretty well. Most of these guys, the expectation

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Speaker 1: is for them not to be like an All Pro

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Speaker 1: or a Pro bowler. Best case scenario is like a

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Speaker 1: Zach Bond, but like worst case scenario is just can

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Speaker 1: you just start for me? Can you just stay on

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Speaker 1: the field and be a functional starter. And that's why

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Speaker 1: it is so important for the scouting department, the coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: and the player to understand what they're getting into, because

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Speaker 1: I totally get if I'm a player, this might be

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Speaker 1: the only time that I can ever break the bank.

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Speaker 1: I'm just coming off a big season and someone's offering

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Speaker 1: me millions of dollars, especially if it's the first time

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Speaker 1: I've hit free agency and I'm a fourth, fifth, sixth,

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Speaker 1: seventh round i haven't made any money. But you better

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Speaker 1: be on the same page as the coach in the

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Speaker 1: GM who are signing you to that money. What they

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Speaker 1: are going to ask you to do schematically fits your

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Speaker 1: skill set and what you just excel at doing for

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Speaker 1: your previous team. Because we see time and time again

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Speaker 1: that a player, a corner, a linebacker, a receiver will

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Speaker 1: go and it just doesn't work for whatever reason. You're like,

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Speaker 1: I've seen this guy play before, he's good, and then

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Speaker 1: you see him with that team, You're like, he no

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Speaker 1: longer is good. And a lot of times it's not

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Speaker 1: because the guy's legs are shot or he just forgot

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Speaker 1: how to catch, or he doesn't understand a playbook. It's

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Speaker 1: like what they are asking him to do is not

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Speaker 1: actually the strength that he brings the table as a

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Speaker 1: professional football player. So the reason you see guys excel

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Speaker 1: as free agent signings is because there's typically a seamless

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Speaker 1: scheme fit and a coach knows that with that player,

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Speaker 1: he can put him in the right positions to utilize

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Speaker 1: whatever he brings to the table physically, and when that

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Speaker 1: is not the case, that's where you get problems. And

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated, Like, obviously some of these free agents, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be seamless fits. They're gonna be starters for teams

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Speaker 1: that will go to the playoffs, and the general manager

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Speaker 1: be a lot that are gonna be a huge reason

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Speaker 1: that that general manager takes a lot of crap that

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Speaker 1: is like, wait, you spent all this money on this

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Speaker 1: guy and he can't play. If you're winning, none of

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Speaker 1: it matters. The Eagles huff last year. No one even

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Speaker 1: talks about it. Why won the Super Bowl? When you

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Speaker 1: start winning five, six, seven games and your team is

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Speaker 1: watching around one of the playoffs and your you know,

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Speaker 1: your players are headed to can Kun and your coaching

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Speaker 1: staff alls their head down in their office, it usually

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Speaker 1: like that becomes a huge, huge point of conversation. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: the work that went in the last I would say

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Speaker 1: several weeks. Obviously you scout these players all season long,

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Speaker 1: but like these last couple of weeks are okay, are

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Speaker 1: we good with putting pen to paper and giving player

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Speaker 1: X a twenty eight million dollars signing bonus to be

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Speaker 1: our starting right tackle, or to be our starting middle linebacker,

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Speaker 1: or to be our starting nickel corner. You know, once

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Speaker 1: you do that, that guy is going to play.

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Speaker 2: That guy is.

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Speaker 1: Going to start for you. You pencil lim in as a starter.

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Speaker 1: So even if you draft some good young players, that

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Speaker 1: guy is gonna get the benefit of doubt. And if

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Speaker 1: it does not go well, you know, football is kind

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Speaker 1: of a big deal and a lot of fans would

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Speaker 1: not be happy, and usually that's who the owners listen to,

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Speaker 1: like what is going on. So that's it for this

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Speaker 1: week's Chasing Challenges. Remember Microsoft's AI solutions empower you to

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Speaker 1: Slash challengers to learn more. Okay, we are gonna do

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Speaker 1: a little mail bag at John middlcoff is the Instagram

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Speaker 1: the show. We had to give it a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Anyone that slid in those dms and said, congrats on

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Speaker 1: the wedding, congrats on the nuptials.

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Speaker 2: I'm more in a ring.

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Speaker 1: I lasted with the silver ring for twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: By the time I got back on Monday afternoon, I

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Speaker 1: just I can't the silver ring. I can't wear on

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Speaker 1: I can't. I couldn't wear podcasting like it just felt.

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Speaker 1: I could wear the nice occasions. I'll wear it, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I'm dressed up or whatever. But rubber rings. A

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Speaker 1: lost rings and said rubber all day. Immediately get home.

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Speaker 1: Glad I did, But I appreciate everyone that reached out

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Speaker 1: said thank you and or I thank you for your

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Speaker 1: kind words.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's have it in the mailbag.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Bills will get the same result

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Speaker 1: with Joey Bosa as they did with Von Miller, both older,

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Speaker 1: past their prime, banged up and coming off or coming

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Speaker 1: from warm Los Angeles. I think it's pretty clear they

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Speaker 1: are signing these guys to get over the casey hump.

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Speaker 1: In January, but Von Miller couldn't stay healthy that long,

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Speaker 1: and I wonder if Bosa we'll be able to as well.

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Speaker 1: That's why I thought Miles Garrett would have been perfect

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Speaker 1: for them. As a Pats fan, I'm fucking pumped to

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Speaker 1: see us ball out day one in free agency. Our

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Speaker 1: defense looks absolutely stacked on paper, and I like the

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Speaker 1: mac Hollins pickup. What do you think the next move

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Speaker 1: will be in free agency? It's funny. I saw the

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Speaker 1: Patriots are doing a one o'clock or noon press conference

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Speaker 1: I think on Thursday to introduce all the free agents,

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Speaker 1: and someone on Twitter today was like, this is like

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Speaker 1: a is a foreign concept to the Patriots. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Belichick for twenty plus years laughed at the notion of

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Speaker 1: signing anyone in free agency.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: In fairness to Rabel and what they're doing, it's because

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Speaker 1: of the roster, how crappy it was, that they needed

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Speaker 1: more talent. But if I was a Patriot fan, I

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Speaker 1: would be excited, you know, I mean, this is you

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Speaker 1: just got some real players at a bunch of different positions,

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Speaker 1: not guys like you know I ideally you nail some

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Speaker 1: franchise players in the draft, but you know, Milton Williams

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Speaker 1: real players. That's a really really good draft pick, especially

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Speaker 1: with a stud like Vrabel who knows defense, so I'd

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Speaker 1: be excited. I think the difference I remember remember von

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Speaker 1: Miller's career felt like it was slipping away, and then

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Speaker 1: the Rams I forget was a second and a third

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Speaker 1: round pick they traded for von Miller, and the Broncos

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Speaker 1: ate all the money, so they essentially bought picks and

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Speaker 1: they gave him von Miller. I'm pretty sure von Miller

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Speaker 1: every like the last couple games of the season, in

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Speaker 1: every playoff game including the Super Bowl, had a sack,

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Speaker 1: so the Bills were like, he's got it back. And

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Speaker 1: then my number could be a little off, but I

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Speaker 1: thought they guaranteed him close to fifty million dollars. They

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Speaker 1: gave him an enormous contract. They gave Joey Bosa one

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Speaker 1: year twelve million dollars. And again the numbers that we have,

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Speaker 1: how did they guarantee him five of that twelve or

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Speaker 1: eight of that twelve? And the other is incentives. I

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Speaker 1: have no problem taking a swing on that. I have

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Speaker 1: no problem doing one year deals on elite talents that

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Speaker 1: are kind of older, that have been banged up, especially

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Speaker 1: if you're a good team. I think you do that

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Speaker 1: deal all day long and twice on Sundays. Now, ideally

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Speaker 1: he's healthy for the home stretch and he could have

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Speaker 1: some big plays in December and in January and help

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Speaker 1: you get over the hump. To me, if you had

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Speaker 1: given him two years, you know, forty million dollars, he'd

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Speaker 1: be like, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: But I can give.

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Speaker 1: One year deals all day long to guys like Joey Bosa,

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Speaker 1: so I like to move a lot. And it's like

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I don't know why I thought

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Speaker 1: this because his brother was on the team. It's like,

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Speaker 1: is he going to be a forty nine er? He

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Speaker 1: made the right decision. They got you sign up twelve

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Speaker 1: million dollars, which was clearly more money than he was

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Speaker 1: getting other places, including incentives or whatever. But to hop

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Speaker 1: on the ride with Josh Allen and they just got

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Speaker 1: to keep him healthy because he's just he's been hurt

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Speaker 1: a lot. I mean a lot, a lot. It feels

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Speaker 1: like he's been way more banged up. And in fairness

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Speaker 1: to Von Miller, von Miller was a better player than

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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. You know, when they're both like in the

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Speaker 1: prime of their career, A huge fan from the outside

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Speaker 1: of Chicago in the Burbs, as a Bears fan since

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Speaker 1: birth ninety eight. You're young. I can't remember us having

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Speaker 1: a more stacked a line this upcoming season. Lots of

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Speaker 1: chatter coming out of the Bears should make a splash

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Speaker 1: and take Genty with the tenth pick. But I'd rather

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Speaker 1: snag another lineman for rotation, like Campbell or Banks, with

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Speaker 1: Funy being older. What do you say, Well, I think

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Speaker 1: there's two ways to look at it. One, I am

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Speaker 1: opposed to taking running backs really high when the depth

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Speaker 1: of a running back class is deep. I mean, there

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Speaker 1: are countless guys who will start for you in the

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Speaker 1: second and third round of this draft. I promise you that. Now,

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Speaker 1: if the equivalent of like Saquon Barkley or Bijon Robinson

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Speaker 1: or Christian McCaffrey when he was coming out of Stanford

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Speaker 1: was in this draft and you put him on the

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Speaker 1: Bears team to go with your young quarterback and that

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Speaker 1: offensive line, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it would be really explosive.

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Speaker 1: So, like I'm anti taking running backs because it's an

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Speaker 1: economic exercise, there are gonna be sweet defensive linemen there

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Speaker 1: so you could get a defensive lineman who can be

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Speaker 1: like a cornerstone of your franchise, where ideally you're not

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Speaker 1: drafting tenth again. But like if genty turns out to

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Speaker 1: be I mean, an elite All Pro talent, which I'm

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Speaker 1: still I know he broke more tackles in college football

636
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Speaker 1: than any other player. I got my start in the Whack,

637
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Speaker 1: which is now the Mountain West. It is not the

638
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Speaker 1: big tenor of the SEC. He is a special player.

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Speaker 1: He's an awesome player, but he did dominate in a

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Speaker 1: separate level of competition. Then I saw him against Penn

641
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Speaker 1: State and it was much more difficult. Now it's I'm

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Speaker 1: not all this stuff is not apples to apples. Going

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Speaker 1: to Chicago doesn't mean he won't be able to break

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Speaker 1: NFL tackles. But it's a conversation we're having if I'm

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Speaker 1: Ryan Poles. At the end of the day, I think

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Speaker 1: the right move. Again, assuming gent becomes a good player,

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Speaker 1: you got to assume the guy you're gonna draft ideally

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Speaker 1: a defensive lineman. We just had this exercise last year.

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Speaker 1: Roma Dune's a sexy player, Genti sexy player. Do you

650
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Speaker 1: know what wins Linus scrimmage, Go grab yourself. Where did

651
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: the Eagles get Jalen Carter pick nine? Now, obviously he

652
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: most drafts he's If he hadn't been in trouble or

653
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: gone through the car accident, he would have been the

654
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: number one or two pick in the draft. But like,

655
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: there are gonna be some players because a couple of

656
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are gonna go, a couple offensive linemen are gonna

657
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: push guys down, You're gonna get one of the better

658
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: defensive linemen in this draft. I just think that is

659
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: the right football move. And then with a later pick,

660
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: pull the trigger on a running back.

661
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: That would be my move.

662
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: Congrats on the wedding. I know you're a big Nashville guy.

663
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: Would you ever consider moving down here? You know when

664
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: we were there, we thursday, I played golf with my

665
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: brother in law, which is weird to say, and my

666
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: brother and we went down to Vanderbilt's course. You know,

667
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: it's been a rough winner. So the course is a

668
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: lot of the grass is dead, but the course is sick.

669
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: I've actually played there be four years ago. The Vanderbilt

670
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: clubhouse is remarkable, it really is. And when we were

671
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: leaving the course, Peyton Manning was standing right there chipping.

672
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: It looked like with his kid. I was like, damn,

673
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's here, and the area in the suburbs out

674
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: where the Vanderbilt courses in Franklin and Brentwood is just badass.

675
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: So would I leave the West Coast?

676
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: No, But if we do well in life, would I

677
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: buy a place there without hesitation? Now, for my wedding,

678
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: we were staying downtown, so it's basically like a Vegas bender,

679
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, from Wednesday, Thursday, a little bit Friday, and

680
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: then really hard Saturday. So that's you know, the life

681
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: in the burbs with the hills. It reminds me a

682
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: lot of you know, where I grew up in Sacramento area,

683
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: probably about thirty minutes towards the city where I live

684
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: for a long time, in Walnut Creek. It's called the

685
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: Danville Pleasanton. It's forever where a lot of like just

686
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: people lived. I mean, it's gorgeous. It's some of the

687
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: most expensive real estate in all of California. You know,

688
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: John Gruden used to have a pad there. It's just beautiful,

689
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: rolling hills. Franklin has some vibe like that, just a

690
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: little safer and a lot less taxes, but I mean it's

691
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: now become very very expensive. I would get a pad

692
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: down there in a New York minute. I'm not a

693
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: big humidity guy. That's my only thing. It is nice

694
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: to feel their winter. It's kind of cold, kind of

695
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: like that. But the humidity, I know it gets hot

696
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: in Arizona, but there's humidity is a different animal. It's

697
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: my only issue with the South. You know, on the food,

698
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff fried, but.

699
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: Which I like, I just get really fat.

700
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: Question for the mailback thoughts on this Niner should have

701
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: let Purdy walk to pay, keep some guys departing and

702
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: trade it up into the top five or seven to

703
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: draft shador. I think with Shanahan he would be a

704
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: great fit along with a quarterback on a rookie deal

705
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: with the Raiders that's out of the quarterback race. Is

706
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: the draft a very good chance he could even be

707
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: there at eleven? Truly depends which would imagine cam Ward

708
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: is number one to the Giants via trade. I think

709
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear. I think the Titans are gonna take

710
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: cam Ward. I think that's to my knowledge as we

711
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: sit here right now, they have not signed anyone. I

712
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: think cam Ward is gonna be the pick, and then

713
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: my guess would be the Browns take Abdull Carter and

714
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: then the Giants are on the clock. It's like, do

715
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: they take Shador or do they just take Travis Hunter.

716
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't even do they have a quarterback yet. I

717
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: guess it depends on Aaron Rodgers.

718
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson.

719
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: But you can't Pertty's under contract like Perty makes if

720
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: you draft Shador at eleven. Chador makes way more money

721
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: than Perty would if he's just.

722
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 2: Keeps his contract.

723
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: So I think Perty's not a free agent, you know.

724
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: Pretty there's all this talk I always this always drives

725
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: me nuts last year about tut It's like, can't we

726
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: just make or Trevor Lawrence? Like whatever happened to finishing

727
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: out contracts? Should the Bay are doing it with Jamar Chase.

728
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: Now you can argue people think the Bengals are crazy,

729
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: but I would lowball is when I hear that term,

730
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: like low ball relative to what I'd argue, like, you're

731
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: offering lesson Trevor Lwnce. Yeah, I think Trevor Lawrence contract's

732
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: an embarrassment. So yeah, I'm gonna offer less than that.

733
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't do business like the Jacks. I'm mean, look

734
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: at their franchise. They draft in the top five every year.

735
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: If I'm Kyle Shanham, like, I can't even relate to them,

736
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: but I just think it's an awful contract. So, like,

737
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: my take was simple, three years, one hundred and twenty million,

738
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: guarantee every penny. It's like you've been making a million dollars.

739
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: Who's turning that down? Play it out if you want,

740
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: Like this, this is a business like whatever happened to

741
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: be in cutthroat and business, all of us deal with

742
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: it in all of our industries. The NFL used to

743
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: be the most cutthroat business, and now it's like and

744
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: it still is with all these other positions.

745
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: Yet with quarterback it's.

746
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: Like, oh, how much do you want, Trevor Brock Do

747
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: you want two hundred million? Here you go. It's like,

748
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: unless your name's Josh Allen mahomes lamar, like I'm negotiating

749
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: the shit out.

750
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: Of these deals.

751
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: And it feels like some of these teams like to

752
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: what do you want one seventy five here?

753
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: Buddy? It's like you guys, nuts.

754
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: Was listening the other day and you were talking about

755
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: NFL contracts and said NFL contracts are nowhere near as

756
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: big as NBA ones.

757
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 2: Why is this?

758
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: The NFL is far bigger product, higher rating, and meaningful

759
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: regular season unlike the NBA. Football is so much more

760
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: physically demanding. What gifts numbers. I mean, there are twelve

761
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: guys on an NBA team, and your top two guys

762
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: on on an NBA team can carry you to championships.

763
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: There are fifty three guys on a roster, and even

764
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: if you have a top heavy roster, you need I

765
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: don't know, seven eight elite players, and then you need

766
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: a second tier of another ten guys. So they're just

767
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: more mouths defeat. It's just just you know, knew if

768
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: there were twelve guys on an NFL team, then I

769
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: think NFL players would make way more money. But you

770
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: have to have a roster of fifty three guys, so

771
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: I just I just think it's just a math game.

772
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: It's if you do the total accumulation, the NFL is

773
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: making way more millionaires than basketball or baseball because they're

774
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: just more players. Now, the top guys make way more money.

775
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: But the guarantee thing is like a business thing, like

776
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: the owner's fight to not guarantee the money because of

777
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: the risk is involved with the injuries. Now the money

778
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: is so big. Even if you don't get everything guaranteed,

779
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: you're still making so much money. It's kind of got

780
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: to the point where revenue so huge. It's like, even

781
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: if I get one hundred million dollar contract, I don't

782
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: live it out, I still get seventy million of it.

783
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: It was way shittier for the guys back in the

784
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: day when the numbers were way smaller and you were

785
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: a good player. You signed like a four year twenty

786
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: million dollar deal, you ruin your leg year two and

787
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: you'd only get eight million, which again eight million twenty

788
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: years ago, still a lot of money. But the amount

789
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: of money they're making now is so huge. I was

790
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: I think since the Vikings are probably gonna roll with McCarthy.

791
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any thinking they are rolling with McCarthy,

792
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: but I think they would get Flacco or Gardner Minshew

793
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: as a veteran quarterback. Both have experience and are top

794
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: of the line backup quarterbacks in the market. Thank you.

795
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: What do you think I would guess that they signed

796
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: some guy like that. I mean, you're gonna need some

797
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: insurance just based on the dude got missed the entire

798
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: first season because of his knee and needed multiple surgeries,

799
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: and the last time we saw him, he looked like

800
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: he weighed kind of jealous, like one hundred and seventy

801
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: five pounds. But I would yeah, I mean, I would

802
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: be stunned if they don't pull the trigger on some

803
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: sort of veteran quarterback. The terminology bothers me as mailback

804
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: question tampering. Tampering is defined as making changes to something

805
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: that you should not, usually when you are trying to

806
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: damage or do something illegal, but it's not against the rules.

807
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: But more to the point, I'm a layman for those

808
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: of us who aren't in quote unquote the no, can

809
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: you explain why this tampering period even matters? Why not

810
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: just let people talk you around? What's the point? Well,

811
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: you can't let people talk you around, because I can't.

812
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: We can't have what's tampering is way more I would say,

813
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: describes what's happening in college football. Let's say it's Week four.

814
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: Let's use the NFL as an example. And I got

815
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: Milton Williams on my team. I can't have other teams

816
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: talking to him about a future contract that that can't happen,

817
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: and that's what happens in college football. So the year

818
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: round talk, you can't have that because that is just

819
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: becomes very shady, even though it kind of I mean,

820
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: it's not like conversations don't still happen, but that is

821
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: not allowed now. I do think once the season ends,

822
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: they kind of pretend that these last couple, you know,

823
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: a couple of days, like give me a p I

824
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: think at the Combine it's why the NFL doesn't really

825
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: get anyone gets in.

826
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: Trouble every it's a free for all.

827
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: So you could argue, just let every I talked about

828
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: this yesterday's let everything start at the Combine and pick

829
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: a date when you're allowed to make things official. But

830
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: like everyone's allowed to do whatever. It becomes official, partly

831
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: because you got to cut down your roster for cap reasons,

832
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: but maybe maybe Wednesday the twelfth this year, everything becomes

833
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: official like it did, but starting Saturday of the Combine

834
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 1: or Thursday of the Combine, you're allowed to do whatever

835
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: you want. Theory about Daniel Jones and the Colts. I

836
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: think the Colts know that DJ is bad and are

837
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: using them as a metric against Anthony Richardson. If he

838
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: can't beat Daniel Jones, then he's done. And if he does,

839
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: then hopefully there's some confidence built. Pretty sure this is

840
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: his last year in his rookie contract. No, he's got

841
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: one more year if assuming they don't pick up the

842
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: fifth year option, which they would have to do at

843
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: the end of this year. This this going into year

844
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: three for Anthony Rigson because he was in the CJ.

845
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: Stroud and Bryce Young draft. Pretty sure this is the

846
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: last year of his contra.

847
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: I think.

848
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: If he isn't what they expect, then both will be

849
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: released in the cultural draft. A quarterback high Like you said,

850
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: Daniel is book smart. Maybe that's what they think ar needs.

851
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: I don't hate that theory, right, if.

852
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: He can't beat out Daniel Jones, then you're just you're

853
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: done with him. And if he does, it just might

854
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: build a little confidence. Don't date at that at all,

855
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: because you can't bring in a guy who could like

856
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: legitimately beat him out, right, Like in training camp, you

857
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: couldn't bring Gardner Minshew back. For example, what if Gardner

858
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: Minshew just no shamesych and system.

859
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: Is just better.

860
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: It's like, well, he gives us a better chance to

861
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: win than Anthony Richerson. So you bringing a guy that

862
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: you think actually is bad. But if he does somehow

863
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: win the job, then the Anthony Rigardson experiments one of

864
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: the worst of all time. But if Anthony Richon beats

865
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: him out, then just build some confidence.

866
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 2: But he still has to do it on the field.

867
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: I don't think it would cement his.

868
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: Future with the cults, but you're right, it would give

869
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: some confidence. And listen, any young person who's listening to

870
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: this can relate or old person my age that has

871
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: been young, Like, confidence is very fleeting, comes and it goes.

872
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: When you got it, you just feel on top of

873
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: the world. And when you're young, you can lose it

874
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: really quick and it feels like you're never going to

875
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: get it back. So Anthony Richardson, he can act, you know,

876
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he is, but like did feel

877
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: early on kind of cocky. It's like, bro, this is

878
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: shit is really really hard. This is not easy, Bro,

879
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: this is not easy. How painful was it when your

880
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: wife made you kiss her in the middle of a

881
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: busy intersection? I think she's talking. He's talking about something

882
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: that got posted on Instagram. It really wasn't it was

883
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: her idea. We threw a reception at the hotel. We

884
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: did a small wedding. There were like sixty people there

885
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: and we did the reception and we got married at

886
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: the hotel. We had dinner at the hotel, and then

887
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: we rented out basically a block away from the hotel

888
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: at one of the bars on Broadway, just our own

889
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: little floor with a band and you know, open bars

890
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: and stuff. It actually turned out to be pretty sweet.

891
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: But when we went there, we walked past it to

892
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: go to the intersection, so take like a picture so

893
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: you could see the whole strip of Broadway in the back.

894
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: It was her idea. I think it actually worked out

895
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: pretty well. One thing I realized, like our house, we

896
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: don't really have like decorations or paintings or pictures, Like

897
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: it's pretty barren, like you would think. I'm like a

898
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: football coach, like I could leave at any moment. So

899
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: hopefully we get some stuff to just decorate the house with.

900
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: But it was it was a good idea. By her mailback,

901
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on the outlook with the Arizona Cardinals.

902
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: I believe coach has turned the tide and the team

903
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: plays extremely hard for him. How do you think they

904
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: were trending? What else do you think they need to

905
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: do to get back in the playoffs. Well, they need

906
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback to play well, and I thought last year

907
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback kind of fell apart as the season went on.

908
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: I mean at one point in time where they have

909
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: five and five or six and six, like they look

910
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: pretty feisty. He had some bad moments in some big games. Now, defensively,

911
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: you add sweat, hopefully get a little pass rush, maybe

912
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: you add another pass rusher. In this draft, you drafted

913
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison over Malik Neighbors. And as someone told me

914
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: going to that draft or like he would money, Austin

915
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: Fort is not going to take Malik Neighbors. Too much

916
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: risk involved, even if he is the better talent. Okay,

917
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: so you take the high floor guy, the guy they

918
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: can't miss well is igh FLOORA was like, this guy

919
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: is going to be pro bowler. It's like he got

920
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: a long way to go and he's solid. But like

921
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: Molik Neighbors looks like his talent has a chance to

922
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 1: be like a special special player. I'm talking like Molik

923
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: Neighbors looks like he if he's healthy, a top live

924
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the NFL. So when you make a

925
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: move like that, you need Marvin Harrison, even if he's

926
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: not as good as Maligu Nambers. You need to be like, well,

927
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: Marvin's gonna make three or four Pro Bowls.

928
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, you'd be okay.

929
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: But if you don't like that's that'd be a little

930
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: bit of a problem. So I'm with you. I like

931
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon. I do think the quarterback's a little bit

932
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: of a wild card. I kind of enjoy him just

933
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: because I think he's one of the biggest freaks in

934
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: the history of the league. I mean, he's five to

935
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: nine and he's like faster than everybody, and he's got

936
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: a huge arm. But like that that size does limit sometimes,

937
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: like his ability to see.

938
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: It's pretty clear. But they're just they're just a weird team.

939
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: I just don't I think you can have good months.

940
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to have good season with Kyler.

941
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: It's weird because he's not like he's not bad, but

942
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: is he good? That's my thing. It's like there are

943
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: a lot of bad quarterbacks in the NFL that is

944
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: not Kyler. Like he can have bad games or make

945
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: bad throws, but like he can play, but like, is

946
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: he is he a top seven, eight, nine to ten

947
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: quarterback or does he? Just like some weeks he'll be

948
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: eight and then a lot of weeks he'll be like eighteen,

949
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: which can be a problem when you're paying a guy

950
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: a lot of money.

951
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: He's one of the more bizarre players.

952
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: In the league.

953
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: Big fan of the show, congrats in the marriage.

954
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: Can you talk about TJ? Watt on the last year

955
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: of his deal and only set to make twenty one million?

956
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: I can't believe no one else has brought it up

957
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: after the Garrett deal. I think there's no way he

958
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: plays at that number. Any chance Pit deals him, I

959
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: did not know that. I would say there is just

960
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: like what's his number?

961
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: Now?

962
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: He's been injured a couple times, like Miles Garrett is

963
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: just a better player.

964
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: God, you're right.

965
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: This is the last year of his contract. Cap hits

966
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: thirty million.

967
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: Capit's pretty big.

968
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: I guess you could extend him. You know, TJ's a badass.

969
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: But how old is TJ?

970
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: Now?

971
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: It'll be thirty one, so he's a couple of years older.

972
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:07,959
Speaker 1: And Garrett, I mean, would you give TJ? I don't

973
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: think he'd get quite Miles' number, but are you giving

974
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: him one hundred and twenty million dollars, so you're basically

975
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: locking him up till he's like thirty four.

976
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: To thirty five.

977
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: I'd probably play it out because you're already I mean

978
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: the league you already started, and you're playing him on

979
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: the on the thirty million dollar capits.

980
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: So I think that one's tough.

981
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: You know, he had some injuries last year that would

982
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: rattle me a little bit. I mean, he's had some

983
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: sweet seasons, but I don't know. You know, in twenty

984
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: two he was hurt.

985
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: Last year. He didn't miss any time, but he was

986
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: banged up a lot. It's a tough one. I probably

987
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: would play it out. Mail back question.

988
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: You have to become the general manager of one of

989
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: the top five draft picking teams.

990
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: Who do you pick? And why?

991
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: So we got the Titans, we got the Browns, we

992
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: got the Giants, we got the Patriots, and we got

993
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: the Jags, So I can immediately throw away the Jags though,

994
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: be good little golfing area.

995
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 2: I wouldn't choose that.

996
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: Patriots just too cold and shadow Belichick or whatever. I

997
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: think for me. Cleveland, no way, no offense to people

998
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: that live in Cleveland. I appreciate your love of football

999
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: in Ohio. I really do. Just not a huge Midwest guy.

1000
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: To me, it's it's two choices. It's the Titans in Nashville.

1001
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: It's the easy choice. I think for me live like

1002
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: a king beautiful area, easier division. It'd be just they're

1003
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: building a brand new stadium that they they're probably like

1004
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 1: a year away. They're gonna I'm sure they're gonna host

1005
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: the super Bowl there. I think it's gonna have a

1006
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: retractable roof, just an awesome place for football. They care

1007
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: about football deeply in the South, and unlike Jacksonville, I

1008
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: think the Titans are just a much bigger brand. That's

1009
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: the easy choice for me. If you're a football guy

1010
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: and you're gonna accept one of these jobs, I mean,

1011
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: taking the job of the New.

1012
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: York Giants is kind of the real deal.

1013
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean it, if you win as the general manager

1014
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: of the New York Giants, you become a fucking legend, period,

1015
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: point blank.

1016
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 2: End of story. So I think, do.

1017
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: I want the lifestyle or do I want to go

1018
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: for broke and try to become a legend. And it's

1019
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: it's not easy, right, but if you get it right

1020
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: and you build winning football teams and you're Jerry Reese

1021
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: or you are Earnie A. Corsi, like you know, it's

1022
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: you become minted in that city. And I'm not even

1023
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: a big New York City guy, but sports mean a

1024
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: lot in the Northeast, and the Giants and their history,

1025
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: you know, multiple super Bowls with ELI, multiple Super Bowls

1026
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: with Parcels, and when it's just solid, when they're just

1027
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: like competing a nine to ten plus win team, like

1028
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: you're playing in the big primetime games every year. You

1029
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: play the Cowboys and the Eagles, and now the Commanders

1030
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: are good.

1031
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: Like it's just a.

1032
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: Lot of eyeballs on that team. And it's why it's

1033
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: kind of sad what's happened to them now because their

1034
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: games are so irrelevant. They've been so bad. And here's

1035
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: the other thing, like are you talking like right now,

1036
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: if I just became the GM or like, you know,

1037
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: football guy X becames the GM of the New York

1038
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 1: Giants and you resurrect this franchise and the like next year.

1039
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: I think of Adam Peters and Dan Quinn when they're

1040
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: walking around DC. It's like, damn, we got you we'll

1041
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: get we'll get the check, which I always find funny.

1042
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: Someone you know, you always hear like football coaches or

1043
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, quarterbacks never have to Brandon Graham never has

1044
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: to pay for a drink in Philly again, Jalen Urts,

1045
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 1: you know, Brandon Grant's worth like a hundred million dollars.

1046
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people that come in here

1047
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: don't have the money. But listen, that's a ran for

1048
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: another day. But I always find that foot never has

1049
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: to pay. The richest people never have to pay. It's

1050
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: always great about being rich and famous. You actually get

1051
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: a lot of free stuff, and we're just a normal

1052
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: citizen with limited funds. You actually have to pay for everything.

1053
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: No one gives you shit. But I uh, you know,

1054
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: she married, she'd want to go to Nashville. I think

1055
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 1: from a football standpoint, you just you'd have to swing

1056
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: for the fences man New York Giants, resurrect them and

1057
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: just try to become a legend.

1058
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 3: The volume