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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Obviously, Amy has her Four Things with Amy Brown,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty much from you know, mind and Body

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Speaker 1: It's probably fee Yeah, it's called Four Things with Amy Brown.

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Speaker 1: Check that out. We brought a new podcast onto the

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Speaker 1: Get Real with Caroline Hobby. It is. It is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Cast at the Bobby Cast. Thank you so much. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Eddie and I are banded. The Raging Idiots

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Speaker 1: They welcome to episode one seventy three of the Bobby

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Speaker 1: Cast with Matt from Parmaily. So what have you been

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Speaker 1: up to today? It's what isay Wednesday? What what do

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Speaker 1: remember feeling it all the way into my knees because

427
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 1: my knees hit together. But I went, I don't even

428
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 1: feel that because my your adrenaline and so um I

429
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 1: didn't have but I didn't have money, and I said,

430
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 1: hey man, I have like nineteen dollars to my name.

431
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 1: I would give it all to you, but you gotta

432
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 1: take the gun off of my head. So he takes it,

433
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 1: and he goes, I'm not gonna boom pop me again

434
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 1: with it, and so I'm trying. I don't remember my number,

435
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 1: but all this is happening, I don't remember my pen number,

436
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: and it's pretty helpless because there's nothing I can do

437
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,919
Speaker 1: it because I don't have any money. I would give

438
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 1: it to them. I can't remember pen number. Uh, And

439
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 1: so he takes the gun and shoves it in my head,

440
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 1: and the girl that I was with at the time,

441
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: she grabs my wallet and puts it underneath her seat.

442
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 1: She's freaking out too. But somebody comes on the other

443
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 1: side with a gun, hits her window, puts the gun

444
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 1: up to her head, you know. And they just wanted money.

445
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 1: But I had no money, would neither do we. Yeah,

446
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 1: I made ficks at night. I had given them whatever

447
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: they wanted. I don't want to get shot or die. Um.

448
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 1: But but I mean, all that happened so quickly on

449
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: your situation, like Scotty get shot and they helicopter takes

450
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: them out. I mean, what are you thinking? Was he conscious?

451
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 1: Well all last time I saw him, he was laying

452
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 1: on the couch. She's saying it burns. It got me,

453
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: you know. And then then I I would had to

454
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: go down to the police you know station to answer

455
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: some questions and and uh then I don't know. We

456
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 1: come back and and you know, the Rvy's there's blood everywhere.

457
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: We had to call a family, which was the I

458
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: mean a Monday night, you get it. You got to

459
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: call your mind one o'clock in the morning, I mean,

460
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 1: the most horrible thing ever. While he's still in the

461
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: hospital obviously and is not doing well well. We that night, man,

462
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: we had to u me, Josh and Barry. He had

463
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: this little forward ranger. We we all hopped in and

464
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: we had to drive to Charlotte because they got into

465
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 1: Chlotte's Medical Center and we had to drive that truck

466
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: from the about about an hour, I guess into Charlotte.

467
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 1: All the while didn't know anything, you know, nothing was

468
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 1: going on. We didn't know anything. And we go and

469
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: then we had to find out where he's had, you know. Um,

470
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: we get finally get to the merchcy room waiting room,

471
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,239
Speaker 1: and we see that the other kid, his parents were

472
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: over there, you know, immediately like it's weird, Yeah, because

473
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: I think you're weird. You're torn in that these dude

474
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: just tried to kill, steal all of that. And then

475
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: you I mean but it's also their parents who probably

476
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know that what they were doing. Yeah, absolutely,

477
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: the parents and do Yeah, that's a weird thing. Yeah,

478
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean you're torn. And then and then you finally

479
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: get to see the dactor and he's I mean literally

480
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: he took us back and he's going and he's just

481
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 1: shaking his head walking in front of us, and he's

482
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,719
Speaker 1: like boys at the Saints. I will tell you, he's like,

483
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: most of these are about a five percent chance to

484
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: live they give him five percent chance to live most

485
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: of these situations. So uh man, so we're we're following

486
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: him back there and he's just gonna i mean, when

487
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: the doctor is doing that and I'm the whole time

488
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: on thinging like sky spools, he'll be he's gonna pol

489
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 1: through strong, you know. You know, we'll get it, you know.

490
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: But it didn't know anything about what was happening. You know,

491
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: he had to you know, had bled out twice already. Um,

492
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: he was in a coma for ten days, had like

493
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: three different surgeries, kidneys failing. Um. I mean the in

494
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: the worst part was he had to do this this

495
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: uh procedure called a fasciotomy, which is where they go

496
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: in and they filey your in his situation, the calves

497
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: which is his kick drum, you know, foot, and they

498
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: put these wound backs on, the suck out the lymphatic

499
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: fluid and you have these bags and it's just you

500
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: have to change the wounds and all. So you know,

501
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: from day one, it's like, Okay, well he's definitely not

502
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,959
Speaker 1: gonna be able to use that foot again and then

503
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: or it's gonna lose the leg. Well what way did

504
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: you realize he was actually gonna live though, um, because

505
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: probably your brother and your friends and your bandmate. Next lastly,

506
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, he's it was day to day for for

507
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: ten days until he came out of the coma. You know,

508
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: it was like he made it through this thing. If

509
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: this happens, he's gotta this can happen. If this happens,

510
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: this can happen. If he can get through, Um, he's

511
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: had one more day. We gotta pull the track out,

512
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: not we gotta do a feeding tube and all this stuff.

513
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: So it was always pins and needles, Um, we gotta

514
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: do dialysis if it kind of keep it going. If

515
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: his kid and he's don't kick back in, he's gonna

516
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: have to have a bag. You know. It was all

517
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: these things, um that were for us, just like day

518
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: to day pretty much. And then and then on top

519
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: of that, you know, we had to go get outfits

520
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: because as I assumed the guys are in games. I'm

521
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: not sure, but there was it was one point where

522
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: his crowd, their crowd was over here getting on the

523
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: elevator and they're like, look, that's them, and so there's

524
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: that in the hospital. At one point they rolled this

525
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: kid in front of me and he's I'm sitting in

526
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,239
Speaker 1: the hallway in the chair waiting, you know how many

527
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: days and and they rolled this guy here and it's

528
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: him as the other kids. That's that's odd. It's almost

529
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: almost common sense. They didn't have metal detectors in the

530
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: in the hospital either, so we were all we were

531
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: locked down. We had we had people standing guard at

532
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: each door because we don't want somebody to go and sticky,

533
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You just never know when

534
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 1: that's something that happens. You go into like defense mode

535
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: and you're like thinking crazy stuff, and you guys are

536
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: literally just playing to show at a club. Yeah yeah.

537
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: And then we're here for forty days, you know, and

538
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: now you're worried about someone walking in or just doing

539
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: something bad to you in the hospital, and then no

540
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: business even being in, oh absolutely, and then all our

541
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: family and everybody else, I mean, you know, your buddies

542
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: are there, like, hey man, you watch guard here. I

543
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: gotta use the bathroom. Okay, all right, I'll take I'll

544
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: take this this watch. And you're just staring at this

545
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: hallway hoping that none of these guys come through that

546
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: might be their cousin or somebody that's really you know,

547
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: mad about it. Um, so what was the You're you're

548
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: going through this process and obviously it's not on the

549
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: forefront of what you're thinking. But the band is just

550
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: starting to like what I have some things going. Oh,

551
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: it's always been like that. We only laugh because he

552
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: got he's fine. I mean, he's good. Yeah, but the

553
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: band you start to get a little tug on the

554
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: rope and then all of a sudden, there's three steps back.

555
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: That's that's been our whole whole life, man. You know, Um,

556
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: I think that's one thing. But never remember this bad obviously,

557
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: but if we never had um, we've always almost had

558
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: record deals, and we've had We did to get off

559
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: of the record deal back in the day and our

560
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: our manager and lawyer at the time screwed it up.

561
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: You know, the only chance we had and we've been

562
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: so close so many times, and this was about to happen,

563
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: and it never happened. But I think at this point

564
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: we were really like we had we were in the

565
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: right place. We had recorded the version of Carolina that

566
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: everybody knows, so we knew we had that, you know,

567
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: which was great, and we had the production. You know,

568
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: we're coming back out here too, you know, Nashville is

569
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: all good, you know. And I think the cool thing

570
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: was we had all these songs on Scott's computer and

571
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: I think I would go in there when he was

572
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: like in the com when I played it and I said,

573
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: we gotta get back to Nashville. Gotta we gotta make it,

574
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: we gotta go, because that was like the driving force

575
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: behind what we needed to do, you know, and just

576
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: to to just bowe the end of this the Scott

577
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: story up like he's playing, Oh, yeah, he's good. I

578
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: mean I was good a bunch like I don't. I

579
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't even know unless you have you told me that

580
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: that all of that, Like physically I don't see him ago,

581
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: oh that guy was shot and was like I assumed good. Yeah.

582
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy because in that um that happened

583
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: to September he came home, he had still open wounds.

584
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: When he came home. We had to do like double

585
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: rehab to get him out of the hospital. Plus when

586
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: he got home, I was there like we gotta get

587
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 1: better and better because we gotta go to Nashville. By

588
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: that February, we did a showcase for Broken Bow. Scott

589
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: literally had leg braces and had to hobble on stage

590
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: and we had to kind of hide how bad off

591
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: he was to get the showcase done. But we did that.

592
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: And then being he was like, you guys passed the test,

593
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: we want to give you guys a record deal. Who

594
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: own broken both at the time, Benny Brown. Yeah, yeah,

595
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 1: so that was his his thing and and uh so

596
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: we got past the test and and that happened, and yes,

597
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: Scott's had to rehab the whole time. And I mean

598
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: he scarred up pretty bad. I mean, you know, they

599
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: had to cut him top to bottom and in both

600
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: his legs obviously, but considering I mean, you know, medicine

601
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: miracle man like they they Charlotte's Medical Center. We're on

602
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: top of it. And that cop to because I've been

603
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: in the woods a lot and you hear a shot

604
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: and maybe you're not in the wood, you guys obviously

605
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: the wood, but to know kind of where to go

606
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: when you hear a shot, because that's you're a gunshot.

607
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: It could be three yeah, unless he saw I'm not

608
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: sure exactly how it went down to. Somebody might have

609
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: grabbed him, you know, all that details. I never really

610
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: got into that, but but I do know he was

611
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: right next door and McDonald's, I mean right next door

612
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: to it, and you know the commotion that was happening elsewhere,

613
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: I have no idea, um, I do just know what's

614
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: happening on inside the r V uh me back to

615
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: that place, um hale from form mole Reasons do you have?

616
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: Do you struggle with like re because I do for

617
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: a couple of things. I got jumped outside the station

618
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: once too. But you struggle with like seeing it over

619
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: and over and over again when I talk about it,

620
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: and it was it was it was very close, you

621
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: know what happened, and it was so intense and everything

622
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: because all our family and friends were just all involved

623
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: in helping us out and get through, and you know,

624
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: everything just kind of went to this mode of like,

625
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, just everybody got real tight and and all that.

626
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, you go over and you just

627
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: I've that's the probably the most detailed story I've told

628
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 1: ever um on radio, because you know, as soon as

629
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: this happened, we got signed and we went out to radio,

630
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: so I had to tell the story because everybody's asking

631
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: about it, and that, you know, I condensed it to

632
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: a quick, you know story kind of thing, right, um,

633
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean every time still if you talk

634
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: about I had, yeah, and I still get the people.

635
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: I always have my mayors of people coming after me.

636
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: It's terrible, but you know what, I know what that is.

637
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: But I do too, and listen, I don't. I spent

638
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: a lot of time in therapy for my incidents. Yeah,

639
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: got um gun, got jumped. I had a bunch of

640
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: death threads, some house broken. It just a probably tenor

641
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: eleven incidents. Right, Well, it's it's okay, right man, you know,

642
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: it's part of it. I gotta miss with you though

643
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: it heavily and more so than I would even know,

644
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: because I would be in therapy and when I would

645
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: talk about them fresh like a fresh blanket was put

646
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: over me again, and I would just go to sleep

647
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: and I would close my eyes and I would want

648
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: of them to be recreated all the time. And I

649
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: have nightmares still, and I've been working with um a

650
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: doctor on the right medicine for me because I have

651
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: nightmares that someone's always trying to break in and get me.

652
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: But it's in the exact place that I'm always sleeping,

653
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: so when I wake up, it's like I'm not I

654
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a dream or real. So I

655
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: have to get up and this is probably two or

656
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: three nights a week still I have to get up

657
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: and walk around and touch things in my house with

658
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: my hand to prove it's real. And I'm just and

659
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: I've been on a lot of when you talk about

660
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: this story, like I I empathize with the emotional part

661
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: of it, but you've been if you've had that happen

662
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: to you do that many times? Your brother got shot,

663
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: you almost got There's no there's no there's there's no comparison.

664
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Speaker 1: There's just two situations that happened to us. And I've

665
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: where the strength has come from me, and it is

666
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: that I can share it with people who have experienced

667
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: similar things and they don't feel so alone and at

668
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: times like something wrong with me? Yeah, I mean, because yeah,

669
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: I guess what it happens every day. Just and you

670
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: realize that when you're in there in the hospital, and

671
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: then and we were also in the hospital, and and

672
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, you get to know the families around you

673
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, what are you in here for?

674
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: Was this was you got in a car wreck or something?

675
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: And they're like they didn't make it. We're still here,

676
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: so wow, I guess it could be worse. You know,

677
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: I always look at it that way most of the time.

678
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: But man, that's you know, yeah, I mean that ongoing

679
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: thing is somebody's after you all the time, and I

680
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: don't know if I've've had that journey for a long time.

681
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: You ever been to therapist? We went to. The only

682
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: time I've been is once when um, right after it happened,

683
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: they were like, we saw this guy. You need to

684
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: go see this guy. Both yea all together and it

685
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: was it was he told us he was uh, he

686
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: told us he came out of the closet. That's what

687
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: he told him. He said, yeah, I'm a I'm a

688
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: closet bass player. That's well. Then automatically you want to

689
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: talk about music, you know what I mean. Automically you're like, well,

690
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: I know this is not the safe place for me.

691
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: You're trying to play based in the band and you

692
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: pitching around. That's weird. But you know, it was okay,

693
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: you know I got it, but but no, I you know,

694
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: I probably probably should For me it was more so

695
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: and I'll get off of it. But for me, more

696
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: so it was about knowing that all of these abnormal

697
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: things happening to me were actually normal to be happening

698
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: to me because you just feel like I'm kind of

699
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: broken now. Yeah, and then you also for me, there

700
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: was also a guild involved too, Like I'm struggling like this,

701
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: but I didn't go serve in war. Yeah yeah, and

702
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm going I don't deserve to be filled this bad

703
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: and this I shouldn't talk about it because but because

704
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: there are people that have served our country and seen

705
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: their French shot. Maybe, but it's like like I was

706
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: was saying, there's no nothing's comparable. You're not supposed to compare. Yeah,

707
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: everybody reacts definitely. So you know, I've got all four

708
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: of us went through this thing together, so we we

709
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,960
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710
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,880
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715
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716
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717
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you when I saw you. We were in Bakersfield, Bakersfield, Yeah,

756
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: and I was so tired. I saw Matt we were

757
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: I'd been doing Idle for a couple of days and

758
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: Matt was on the West Coast um he was doing

759
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: some shows over there, and we were both walking back

760
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: and I was completely out of it, and I was like, hey,

761
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: we talked for a minute, and I remember texting you

762
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: after show. I was like, dude, I was so tired.

763
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what I said. I don't know how.

764
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: You don't have any idea how you keep up. I

765
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, sorry if I was a

766
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: complete douche or if I was speaking in uh in French.

767
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: But whenever you guys were playing on what Over and

768
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: watched you guys for a little bit, and because I'm

769
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: just a fan of you guys, he gets are so

770
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: good live too, and so I went over and I

771
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: watched you guys and you were playing. I didn't know.

772
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: This is my ignorance here, that you guys were doing

773
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: that Dean Lewis song. Yeah, yeah, I just thought you were,

774
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: honest to god, just thought you were recovering. And I

775
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: love that song. So here's the popish song from Dean

776
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: Lewis and my friends. And so I hurt you guys

777
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: doing it, and I was like, oh, that's a really

778
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: cool cover that they're just doing here with it, you know.

779
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: So and um I was telling my manager and I

780
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: was like, damn, that's really cool. And I was like,

781
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: I really like those guys. Don't get to see them

782
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: very often. It seems like, listen, if there are a

783
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: few people that are grinding, it's like you guys me

784
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: in low Cash, like where you don't stop you, you're

785
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: grinding you. You grind us all out of the picture.

786
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I admire your your hustle, man, and

787
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: I think it's something we're both born with. It just

788
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: can't not do it. And she's go she says, well,

789
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: you know that's a song that's the they've done that,

790
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: a country version of that. And I was like what

791
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: And so I take it and I play it and

792
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: I was like, holy crap, it's it's so good. I

793
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: think I texted you that. I was like, dude, this

794
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: song is so so here it is this is uh

795
00:36:47,640 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: be all right, my friend, it doesn't matter. It's too

796
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: I played it on the show this morning. I was like,

797
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: everybody should thank you for that. Man. That was awesome.

798
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: Everybody in my camp was they lit up, man, it

799
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: was it was great, but yeah, just one of the songs.

800
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: We heard it and I was like, man, harm release song,

801
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: Like I know exactly how we could just do this.

802
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: It'd be easy, you know. And we got with David Fanning,

803
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: who produced I want to produce it on Feels Like

804
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 1: Caroline album and a lot of other stuff Sunny morning,

805
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: and we just went in the studio one day and

806
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, I just did our thing with it, laid

807
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: it down and and and it was cool because the

808
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: label was just got fired up as soon as they

809
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: heard it, and like more fired up than I've seen

810
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: it a long time. And and even like my publishers

811
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: that I didn't even write the song and give it

812
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: to my publishers and they're he's jamming it in upstairs,

813
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: and Sony, I'm like, that's cool. I love it that

814
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: people react to it, you know. And I, uh, you know,

815
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: I could have never really put it all together. It

816
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: just happened and it was. It's really cool, man. So yeah,

817
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: the dio just came out last week, So is it?

818
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: And I don't know if this is it the single? Yeah?

819
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: Oh it is, okay. So I have not I've been

820
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: so disconnected on the new music part I listened to

821
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: a lot of female artists because I'm in that trying

822
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: to really pop. Just um a lot of pop to

823
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: you man, Oh I listen, I mean listen. If I'm

824
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: working out, it's I don't listen anything to hip hop

825
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: and I work out. I tried to work. I try

826
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: to work out to the country music. Yeah, I gained

827
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: seven accounts. It wasn't I work out of country music. Yeah,

828
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: you can't mean I would get harassed. I like the tradition.

829
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: If there's anything I am, it's not traditional yet. I

830
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: was born in Arkansas. I'm a die hard country music fan,

831
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: even historian. But that being said, I don't think my

832
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: success comes from walking that you're supposed to be this

833
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: country line. Yeah, and at first I was hated for

834
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: it for years, for years. I mean, you guys have

835
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: dealt with this too. Yeah. We we were just you know,

836
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: they were just kind of scared to put us out

837
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: when you first came out. Like you guys are like

838
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: rock and roll, we are trying to do country. I'm like, dude,

839
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: like I grew up on a farm picking comers and

840
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: don't tell me what I am. Yeah, we all know,

841
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: Like you know, I grew up listening to Travis Trip

842
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: and Garth Brooks and also my brothers and my dad

843
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: and also Snoop and also just everything. And that's that's

844
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: that's what people think that you should still live in

845
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: like the seventies or eighties when the hard distribution mattered

846
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: so much, whenever you can only get tapes or c ds,

847
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: and most of places in the Southeast they had a

848
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: bunch of counch of music. Now it's it's all digital.

849
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: It's all everywhere. I mean, I couldn't afford to buy

850
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: c D like if they were fifteen bucks back in

851
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: the day and you get one song off the c D,

852
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, like now I have to have a playlist

853
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: of songs that you like. You I heard you talking about,

854
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: Like when Napster came out, you could go get all

855
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: these songs. You make your own cdo You don't have

856
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: to wait and spend your money on this one. We

857
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: have to spend your money at all. That's good. Remember

858
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: and play letter lottery. Okay, we had lime Wire, do

859
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: you remember that. Yeah? But I was scared because Napster

860
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: was league. I don't know if I were used that

861
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: Napster was was legal and it was like in your

862
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: face that because they hadn't. It's still the wild West

863
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: to a point now, but it was the Internet was

864
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: just so the wild West, and there were no laws,

865
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: and it was like, here's Napster and let's just see

866
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: what happens. And you know, I remember being so mad

867
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: when Metallica was like, take down Napster. I'm like, why

868
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: we got free music? This rule? But then now, if

869
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: you're an adult and you create things, and like if

870
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: I were to write a book, like if one of

871
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: my books, if they would have said, we're just gonna

872
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: distribute this for free because I paid man put into it, right,

873
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: But with Napster, you just go, let's see what I hit. Okay,

874
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: there's the letter F. I'll wake up with the whole

875
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: new library of F songs that I will didn't see

876
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: which ones I like and which ones I don't. But

877
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: line Wire was never legal. It was once they kind

878
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: of shut that down. And as much as I'm a

879
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: rule breaker in some parts of my life, I ain't

880
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: trying to go to jail for downloading Inglebert Humper song.

881
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: You know, none of the like we used to use

882
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: these PC programs to record with, none of that stuff

883
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: was like they were all cracked stuff. We had to

884
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: somehow get it from a friend who had it and

885
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: had the thing. You know, that's what we had to do,

886
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I do know. Uh yeah, So actually

887
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: the videos for be all right too. It's out. How

888
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: did you get the Because when I would do music videos,

889
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: they would say, here's ten girls, which one would you

890
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: like to come and make out with you? And I

891
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: thought it was the coolest thing and for her to

892
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: make out with me, and then she did and it

893
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: was crazy go. You know, we were in a mad

894
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: dash because it all happened like having real quick. David

895
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: that Fanning actually him and his company's Sick Entertainment produced

896
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: that video as well, and we were down to the wire.

897
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: We didn't realize if we were going to get the

898
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: shoot the video. He had already had the uh rented

899
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: the stuff for the weekend and it was like, if

900
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: we can do this on Sunday, if you just gotta

901
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: let me know now, And we got to find out,

902
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: and so it was down to the wire and um

903
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: he had had some a couple of girls. We really

904
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: didn't have a lead necessarily, and I knew Um Hayley

905
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: was in our closure eyes video and we become friends,

906
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: and so I was like, she she'd be perfect this

907
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: of me call her up and so that was it

908
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: all just kind of happened. I really wanting the whole

909
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: process of I did spend you know, there was like,

910
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: let's get to the back agency season. Well, I mean yeah,

911
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, as far as fun doing a video, you know,

912
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: it's the greatest fun ever had. When they said whenever

913
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: we did well, we did our like our first comedy record,

914
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: our record label, Black River was like, hey, we're gonna

915
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: shoot this. We have to cast You're you're the girl

916
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: that And I was like all right. And I had

917
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: a song called um if I was your boyfriend, and

918
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: I was like, well, what are you gonna get show?

919
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: They're like, we will send you like twenty girls and

920
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: you can pick from them. And I was like what.

921
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 1: I was like, this is like the uh the junior

922
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: parsity version of The Bachelor is the greatest thing I've

923
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: ever seen, the greatest job ever. When somebody says, hey, man, um,

924
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: I need you to sit at your computer tonight and

925
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: gonta send you a whole page girls and you get

926
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: to make out with whichever want over and over again. Um,

927
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: so yeah, the videos up. You know something about you

928
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: guys that it's cool to me because I'm a big

929
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: Kevin Smith fan who created mall rat chasing Amy. But

930
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: with Clerks, he took and he put her all on

931
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: his credit card, Yeah, which is he was like, it's

932
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: the only way I could find my art, Like one

933
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: was giving me money. So I just took and maxed

934
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: out every credit card to make that movie. I assume

935
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: you guys did that. I think I had fifty thousand

936
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: at one point and credit card dead yeah, and at

937
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: thirty six point thirty six percent interest. I was when

938
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: you get it like me, I mean we we financed

939
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: everything on this band through my credit cards for Scots

940
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: and then parents with Loanes One. Like I said, my

941
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: mom loan was you know, like eleven grand on her house.

942
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: She went got a mortgage out and I paid her

943
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: back Timberson interest and you know your mom back with interest.

944
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, my uncle Loanes's money to get Barry's

945
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: dad to to get the r V and all that

946
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: happened in and so yeah, it was like, you know,

947
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: loan you eight thousand dollars with the interest and we'll

948
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: pay you back. And we did I always paid everybody back,

949
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: you know. Um, but I did was you know, when

950
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: the when the thing hit in two thousand and eight,

951
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: it was pretty bad. So I had to had to

952
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: walk away. After I had to. I remember borrowing, uh

953
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: from my mom to pay off a credit card. It

954
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: was that like thirty summer cent interest. And I was

955
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: literally in tears. I was like, well, I can't do

956
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: this anymore, Like I'm out when Carolina had, did you

957
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: guys like financially do alright with that? Oh? Yeah, it

958
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: kind of caught you up, it did. Luckily we um

959
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: we owned our publishing on that and we were just huge.

960
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean that's the reason we were able to, you know,

961
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: put money down in our houses and and I bought

962
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: my mom a car um camera you know, and I

963
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: bought my first vehicle pretty much. Um. So just that

964
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: that and and it was a big deal. But yeah,

965
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, because you go from playing shows

966
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you have your money doubles triples,

967
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: and then you have shows, you know, four nights a week,

968
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: five nights a week if you can do it, you know.

969
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: So it was definitely that was a good, good hump

970
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: and calling your mind the whale Force too. So yeah,

971
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: which I think calling your mind what top five because

972
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: I was ten top ten, it was the top ten,

973
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: and it turns them up a little. Worry about time.

974
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm already calling, already calling you close your eyes to

975
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: that one too. Oh it's great. It's like top three.

976
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: They got played a lot. Man, it still does still

977
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: here a lot. Yeah, I like this one a lot. Yeah,

978
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: I love a song. I mean, I think this, I

979
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: mean this is probably my favorite song of you guys,

980
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: regardless of chart positions. I think close your Eyes is

981
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: probably my favorite song. Yeah, I love that song. Man,

982
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: are there? Sometimes you just are like and I know

983
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: you you do it because of the people want to

984
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: hear you play Carolina, But are you like, I'd be

985
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: okay not playing Carolina never because here is the thing,

986
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, we do. We do a lot of our

987
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: own headline, mostly on headline and shows we're playing ninety

988
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: minutes and and those songs make it easy there there,

989
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, And every time I go into Caroline, I'm like, damn,

990
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: like I need to about five more of these like this,

991
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm really literally when you play songs

992
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: and you know, album tracks and stuff and you and

993
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: you break it into Carolina, You're like, Okay, I get it,

994
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: I get why this is. It is what it is

995
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: and close your eyes. Is the same way as they

996
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: make the set go, make it easy. Because when I

997
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: can get up there and play six singles in a

998
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: row to a thirty minute set, dude, it's golden. You

999
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: know where do you put Carolina? Let's talk about set

1000
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 1: last for a second, because like to play Sunday morning.

1001
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: By the way, you don't have like talk me through

1002
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: your set list. What are you gonna because the firm

1003
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: end spot in the last spot are the most valuable spots.

1004
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: But how do you do? Tell you what we've been

1005
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: doing recently? Um, we'll just past weekend California. Um. We

1006
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: we start. We start with a new song called I

1007
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: Do if you don't which UM's it's really cool new

1008
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: song we have. I love it and band loves it,

1009
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: and we have intro music on and that you know,

1010
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 1: and then we're going to call in your mind seamless,

1011
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: you know, keep energy up and then same keys. No, no,

1012
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: And here's the problem. Not the problem is I have

1013
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: to we have to switch guitars because it's it's a

1014
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: one get to ones in standard ones half stepped down.

1015
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: But I have these uh, these ever tune systems on

1016
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: my guitars which are awesome, so I can capo first,

1017
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: fret and then take it off and it's in perfect tunes.

1018
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: I can just go right in there. Wow, really do

1019
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: these things are making? I would never use that cause

1020
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm not good. I played like you guys were great

1021
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: the other day too, man, I mean there was so

1022
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: many people singing all the songs. That's the first time

1023
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: I've seen you guys play. I mean, the band was amazing.

1024
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: All the bands are really good. I'm the worst part

1025
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: of our band and I'm the lead singer. But you

1026
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: do good though, man, Like let me jump around wave

1027
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: still and the full band thing is not even really

1028
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: my that's not It kind of morphed into that because

1029
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: people were going, hey, if you can make it a

1030
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: bigger band, you should can play festivals and do big shows.

1031
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, But like Eddie and

1032
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 1: I were going out and doing a two man music

1033
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: comedy tour, which is so much more vibe my vibe.

1034
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: We get up there with our two guitars and I

1035
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: do a little stand up and we play a funny

1036
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: song and we're putting out a live record. We've been

1037
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: at a song this week. But even that experience, like people,

1038
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: it's there's laughter, it's like more like um like Adam

1039
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: Sandler fly to the concords, Like that's my type of

1040
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: vibe for music. But then we were like, why don't

1041
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: we go and play? And what I do? I just

1042
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: surround myself with really good people and like I did

1043
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: the first song, I'll do the last song, and then

1044
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: the really good people do most of the middle and

1045
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: then I walk off and they're like, Bobby, you were

1046
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, thank you very much. I was just

1047
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: I was watching the crowd sing all the words and

1048
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: and uh, but this this means great. I mean the

1049
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: outfits are great, and I do that. I wear those

1050
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: outfits for the same reason I wear big glasses just

1051
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: to camouflage the crap, you know what I mean. That. Man,

1052
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: that's something that's simple. Was like, but it works so well.

1053
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: The socks, jump suits. It just it's right, you know,

1054
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: And it's so simple. It's like I wish we could

1055
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, right, you guys have to look so

1056
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm like, all right, what are you

1057
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: wearing tonight? I gotta you're gonna wear those jeens where

1058
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: I can't wear these genes. If you're gonna wear those jeans.

1059
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: I mostly just on the audience, who has no idea

1060
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: what's about to go on, because when we walk out

1061
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: in letterman sweaters and high socks, they're going, oh, well,

1062
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: these guys aren't super serious, so I shouldn't expect that

1063
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: from them. Yeah. Um, but I stound myself with really

1064
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: really good players and singers. But you know what, our

1065
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: set list is just stupid. Your starts with the new songs,

1066
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: with a new song, second song calling your mind, now,

1067
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: um going too, I'll bring you music kind of keep

1068
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: it all going, and then we go um. I think

1069
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: we do close your eyes should because we do try

1070
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: to do like you know, a song you know, a

1071
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: couple of songs you might not know, a song you know,

1072
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: or a moment, a moment every three songs, some kind

1073
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: of moment um going into and then we do like

1074
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: close your eyes and day drinking next to each other,

1075
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: which was really cool. Day drinking just got picked up

1076
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: by A Twisted Tea as the song for uh Twisted Tea,

1077
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: the It's Twisted Tea rapper. No, it's it's it's the drink.

1078
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: It's the that's my rapper. Twist twist hip hop artists

1079
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: that I don't know about out the twisted tea drink.

1080
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: Don't even act like I know. I'm just like, I

1081
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: will be honest with you. It's twisted on the wrap cabin.

1082
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: I'll playlist and maybe we should come out with twisted

1083
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: t songs. So twisted tea is that? Is it? Like alcoholic? Yeah?

1084
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: Alcoholic tea drinking? Yeah, man, I don't. Yeah, it's really cool.

1085
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: They've they've used country songs, they used us someone on

1086
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: the beach, and they used a little big towns day

1087
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: drinking and they picks up they picked up a second

1088
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: day drinking. Yeah, that's cool. Here put something cool in

1089
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: your han't hear any wrapping, And that's cool too, because

1090
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm assume did you just write this one? Yeah? Man,

1091
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: I wrote it's a two way. Wow. Man, we own

1092
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: the publishing on it, so I mean, hey, I don't

1093
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't know where. Like you know, sometimes I think

1094
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: if you work hard and you just keep at it,

1095
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: some things like this happen, and it's a blessing, you know,

1096
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: when you've been down in the trenches and digging deep

1097
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: and things like this happened. But um, yeah that was

1098
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: pretty damn cool, and we're gonna do some stuff with them.

1099
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: So I found that the trenches because god knows, we've

1100
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: both been in them, but they actually, regardless of your success,

1101
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: I actually make you look out and acknowledge and appreciate

1102
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: other people in the trenches. I think that's why hustles

1103
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: recognize hustlers. Oh absolutely, man, because you know what it

1104
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: is and and there's no part of me if today

1105
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right, yeah, maybe doing better, tomorrow, maybe

1106
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: doing worse, but there's no part of me that's that's

1107
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: that's ever not going to have that Mountain pine Arkansas

1108
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: grip where there's just nothing there. So you you're surviving

1109
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: and and your your lookout for other survivors. Yeah, I mean,

1110
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: and that's why poll for the underdogs. That's why we

1111
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: you know, we know, I think for both of us,

1112
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 1: our nomalies in this field in some in some ways,

1113
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, So I'm always you know, cognitive of that

1114
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: and where we came from and you know, driving we

1115
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: used to be loggers, so you know, working for five

1116
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: dollars a week sometimes you know, just out there scuffling

1117
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: driving an hour. I drove from back home to the

1118
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: airport yesterday and I was on the same road that

1119
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: Scott and I used to drive my dad and we

1120
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: used to all drive it going to work. And it's like,

1121
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, you drive an hour and twenty minutes to

1122
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: work one way, work all day, you drive all the

1123
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: way back. We have any air conditioning, the truck you're making,

1124
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: you know a little bit more minimally, all that stuff.

1125
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: It just if you don't let it stick with you,

1126
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: you got you, you won't appreciating anything. And I think

1127
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: for all of us, we really appreciate everything around us.

1128
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: And and sometimes you gotta kick yourself and say, hey,

1129
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: step back and look. And it's good at people that

1130
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: you trust to check you too. Oh yeah. But I

1131
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: feel like appreciation is such an undervalue commodity because you know,

1132
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: I've often said, who would you you know, who'd you

1133
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: rather be? Prince Charles or Oprah? Right? And I'd rather

1134
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: be Oprah, who it sucked for. But she actually knows

1135
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: how good she has it, Like the Royal family, they don't.

1136
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: They can they can maybe see things, And I want

1137
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: even equate to how much I don't know how good.

1138
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: I have it at times, even uh. And I grew

1139
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: up and I felt like when I was growing up,

1140
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: I was super poor. And then I went to Haiti

1141
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: and I saw the orphanages and the people, and I went, oh, no,

1142
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: I was pretty good. Like we may have been on

1143
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: food stamps and on government cheese, but we got food

1144
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: stamps and government cheese. And I think there's always that.

1145
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: I just think that appreciation, if you can find it's

1146
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: so valuable. And sometimes we don't. Sometimes we're we don't

1147
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: acknowledge it because we're idiots and we're like, what's the

1148
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: next thing instead of going, I should appreciate this, And

1149
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: you can do both at the same time. And I think, yeah,

1150
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't want to think about it. You

1151
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: want to shut it out because it's you know, when

1152
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: things are going good, you want to just you know,

1153
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: you don't think about it, but you have to, man

1154
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: because it's it always keep you in check. That's why

1155
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: I like about living out in the country. You know,

1156
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: it's like those are kind of like the people I

1157
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: grew up without. Where we live on the West Side

1158
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: is you see everybody farm and working hard, stuffing in

1159
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: the country store and I'm like, you know, every time

1160
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: I see somebody pull up at the gas station with

1161
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: some steel toe boots and and then you could tell

1162
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: they've been working in the grease all day, I'm like,

1163
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: all right, better you better, you know, be thankful for

1164
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: where you're at now. And you know know that you

1165
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: were that guy for all a lot of years and

1166
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, but you got your shot to

1167
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: be able to ride your truck into town at eleven

1168
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: o'clock and go write songs now, so you know you

1169
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: need you need to do the best you can with it.

1170
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: How all you love away from here? Oh? Man, I'm close.

1171
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm I'm outside outside of Bellevue area. Do you like it?

1172
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: I love It's Nashville home now it's been home. Yeah,

1173
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: Like I feel like home. You know it does it?

1174
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: Does it? Especially how we're we're at. We just have

1175
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: about five acres out in the countryside, right on the

1176
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: edge of the country. So, I mean we have there's

1177
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: cows next door, that kind of stuff. Who's we well

1178
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: with the band houses out there? About? My brother and

1179
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: I stay out in this farm area and uh barries

1180
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: out here, He's got a house out It's kind of

1181
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: like a hub so we have our little little parmaily

1182
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,280
Speaker 1: land out there where rehearse and do all that stuff.

1183
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: But I love it downtown. I feel like we've been here,

1184
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: you know, coming here since two thousand two, So I

1185
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: mean every time I drive in and I'm I feel like,

1186
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: but there's so much going on, it's so hard to

1187
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: keep up with. Everything's like I used to live downtown, yeah,

1188
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: at a place right on right on fourth Street in Nashville,

1189
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: right and I and it was a great place, and

1190
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: it was hard. On the weekends it would be tough,

1191
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: but I was rarely. I was touring every weekend doing

1192
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: stand up for music, and I was just like, I

1193
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: was never homes it didn't matter, but the rare weekend

1194
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: I would come would be nuts. But I drove and

1195
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: it was the top floor of this building and it's

1196
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: not it's a really nice place. But I was driving

1197
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: home one day and they're just like these random fire trucks,

1198
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: like on the way to my place, and I was like,

1199
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: that's weird because it was right downtown and there was

1200
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: these humongous fire trucks. Like something's not right. So I'm

1201
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: driving closer and I look and I guess the restaurant

1202
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: in my mind, had caught on fire below my place,

1203
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: and that's why the fire trucks were there. And so

1204
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that sucks for that restaurant. Like I

1205
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: wonder what it's really going on. And I'm driving up

1206
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: and I see Mike d who's who's producing this over there,

1207
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: and he's covered in water and and he and he's like, hey,

1208
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: park your car over here, because in these fire trucks

1209
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: are surrounding the building that my uh my, my condo is.

1210
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, it was like a seven story condo.

1211
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: Wasn't a gigantic one, but it was a cool one.

1212
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: It was. And I had the basically the whole top floor.

1213
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: And he's covered in water and he has my dog,

1214
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: and I'm like, so I's not right about and still

1215
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: it's not coming together. And he goes, dude, everything's flooded.

1216
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: And I was like what, and he goes everything. So

1217
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: apparently a guy who was working on the top hit

1218
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: a water main, busted in the hallway, flooded every unit

1219
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: all the way down and you have to go down

1220
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: the stairs, right, and he's walking to a waterfall with

1221
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: my dog. He's just coming down the stairs. The whole

1222
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: way down. Did any of your stuff get messed up? Well,

1223
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: so it happened on the top floor, and I lived

1224
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: on the top floor. So I went through mind to

1225
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: the side, and a lot of stuff in my room did.

1226
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: But the people every level below me went into the

1227
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: living room and went in. So I had this awesome place,

1228
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: and they were like, you have to move because we

1229
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: have to basically do millions of dollars renovations. And yeah, imagine,

1230
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with it. I was out,

1231
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: and so I went and I bought another house. But um,

1232
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: and I have they rebuilt it. I still have it.

1233
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: I ran it out like a ballplayer and now like

1234
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: a titan. And I but my point was, I love

1235
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: living downtown too, until I don't love living downtown anymore

1236
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: because when I got flooded and then too, it's just

1237
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: it's just exhausting. Yeah, you gotta be wild for you,

1238
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: especially with all you have going on, and you probably

1239
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: need to come at least have a little place to chell. Yeah,

1240
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: and I feel like I can chill here. It's pretty.

1241
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: I feel like it's pretty quiet where I live and

1242
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: pretty safe. But the downtown stuffs fun for a second. Yeah,

1243
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: every time we have family members or friends come in town.

1244
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: You have to. We have to do the downtown thing

1245
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: and it's fun. You have to. You have to have

1246
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: to do Broadway without of towners because they want to

1247
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: see the all the hockey tells you the key to

1248
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: dad is to do it early, like go day drinking,

1249
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, get down there at three. But will they

1250
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: do that? Will your family be like, yeah, let's go

1251
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: see it one? Yeah, that's that's tough. Then you did

1252
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: in midtown saying so you never know you might see

1253
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: in here and on the weekend, you're really not gonna

1254
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: see anybody. This is for a p s A for

1255
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: anyone coming to town on a weekend. On a weekend,

1256
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 1: you probably won't see anyone that does country music because

1257
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: they're out on the road making their making their living

1258
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: on the weekends. Because a lot of people will come

1259
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: in or the direct message may be like, hey, where

1260
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: do I see country stars on weekends? I'm like, well,

1261
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: look at their tour calendar and man and see what

1262
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: city they're in. But if you want to come on

1263
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: like a Tuesday or Wednesday, yeah, there's definitely more of

1264
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Speaker 1: and it's also a kind of a camaraderie thing because

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00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: you're like when I saw you out on the road,

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00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: we're all shooting off everywhere all the time. You rarely

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00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: see anyone else unless it's an award show, a charity

1268
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: event or on the road. Absolutely, and and here I

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00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: just I did this last night and went to some

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00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: Gibson thing and ended up running into brother's Osborne down

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00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: at Red Door right afterwards, and a couple of other

1272
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: buddies roll in. People you see on the road is

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00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: see exactly right, man, Um, But I love the award

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00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: show thing because you get to kind of hang with

1275
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: everybody that you never get to see because we're always gone,

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00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: you know, except for you buddies that you have that

1277
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: you're you know here. Everybody has their kind of group

1278
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: of friends hanging out with. Do you have any other

1279
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: um artist friends that are like your buds that you

1280
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: kind of came to town and you, Um, yeah, Jake's

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00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: probably one of our good friends. Jake is and uh

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00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: you know we we know, Um, I know John Pardy.

1283
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: We cut up every time we hang out. Um. Who

1284
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: else we came up with? Um low cash guys friends

1285
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: with those guys, UM A lot of the people the

1286
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: label you know, um uh trying to think who else,

1287
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: but you have to stretch. They ain't. They ain't that close.

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00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: Like Jake's like one of my closest and worst friends

1289
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: at the same time at the same time. Listen to

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01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: the Sego one. I listen to the first one's Awkwards

1291
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: cross that one. We got into a fight. But when

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01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: I moved to town, Jake was the first person that

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01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: I kind of knew because we had mutual friends like

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: Andy Roddicks one my best friends tennis player and Marty,

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01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: and Marty and Jake are really we're really close, are

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01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: really close, and so he's like, hey, I got a

1297
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: friend here, you should just be friends with him. And

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01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: so Jake and I were really close. But Jake's like

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01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: me in that you know, we're a bit moody. Yeah, yeah,

1300
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: I can see that, we both and if we're if

1301
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 1: we're both moody, it the wrong way and the wrong time.

1302
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: But that being said, like if I needed, uh a kidney,

1303
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: I probably called Jake, like, yo, can I get one

1304
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: of these? Because I would at whatever he wants, like

1305
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't you know, and he would do it for

1306
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: me too, But we also might might shove each other.

1307
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, Jake Jake's that's my dude, and until he's not,

1308
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: then he's my duties. Um man, it's good to have

1309
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: you up, Like really I was. I was sincere and

1310
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: with everything that I said, and I was like, hey,

1311
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: I want to have you up here. I want to

1312
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: have you up on the show. I really think that

1313
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: that that you got. And did you reach out to

1314
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: this guy, this Dean Lewis? Yeah, I'm we're um. I

1315
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: think right now, we're we We've actually met him when

1316
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: he came to town in Nashville and so we're, um.

1317
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: You know, he's gotta be happy, right because if you oh, dude,

1318
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: he wrote the song. You know what's funny that we

1319
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: had to change the lyrics because he says, mate, you

1320
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: like we had to change it to I know you

1321
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: never love him, man, but it's too late. So we

1322
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: had to have permission. So you got permission. But do

1323
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: you get any sort of writing no, no, even no

1324
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: no writing credits. But we had to have both the

1325
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: writers agree on um lyric changes was one of the writers. Yeah,

1326
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: he he and one other guy and the other guy

1327
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: immediately signed off. And because he knew, like if this

1328
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: thing as a hit at country radio, like you're about

1329
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: to make some change, you know. But it took like

1330
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: a month before he finally got in touch with him

1331
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: and he okay did and changed one thing. And but

1332
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: when we met him as great, it's cool. I just

1333
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's probably writing a bolt of lightning right

1334
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: now with international tour and all that stuff, so they

1335
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: probably don't underst and how big it is if it

1336
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: is a country radio single, like it's a pretty big

1337
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: big thing. You know. It's weird that some artists, because

1338
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: they are so relentless and touring expect um, that sometimes

1339
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: you don't even know how well your song is feeling

1340
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: because you're you're not watching it like everyone else is.

1341
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: You're just kind of living it and you may see

1342
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: some trickles, but you're not exposed to the media because

1343
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: you're you're you're living, you're trying to build the media. Yeah,

1344
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: it's wild to not feel it until it's just almost

1345
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: all at once. Yeah, and it's huge, and it's it's

1346
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: so so big you don't even realize it, like because

1347
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: millions of people are hearing and then you want it again,

1348
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: and then when it's gone, you're like, how do I

1349
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: get that back? That never stops? Says it, Matt, good

1350
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: to see it, good to see you. But it check out, yeah,

1351
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 1: check out? Be all right? And um, what's the what's

1352
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: the radio plan with this? Well, that's what I'm wait.

1353
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: We're waiting to get the day that a day from

1354
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: the label and that's probably when we're gonna holler kneed,

1355
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: so we cannot you know, but right now we're just

1356
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: waiting on that. But they told us beginning of summer,

1357
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: so well, I do really, I wouldn't say I like

1358
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: it if I did, I appreciate it. Man. We all

1359
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: love it, our camp and the band, and there has

1360
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: been fun playing at shows. It's it's just such an

1361
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: easy song to dude, and it's not part listen I

1362
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: maybe saying wrong. I say Parmaly, Yeah, you say Parmai Parmaly, Yeah,

1363
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: like Pamela Lee. But did you get irritated people say

1364
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: parma Lee. No, no, Parmally Parmly. It's a little arts.

1365
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: It takes time, and I mean, if you look, the

1366
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: spelling of the town is p r m E l E.

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01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: Nobody would ever know how to say that Parmal. How

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01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: would you like me to say it for now? Parmally?

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01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: Excuse me Parmaly. That's how I do say it, Parmaly. Yeah,

1370
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: against Parma, Parmaly. You on episodes on that, Yeah, Parmaly.

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01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: It's like Amy, which says Saturday or Live. She goes

1372
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live. How you say that? Is that? How

1373
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: she says? Yeah? And then she says that, How do

1374
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: you say, how do you say the really famous taco place,

1375
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: taco bill, Taco bill, You're gonna go even she goes

1376
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: Taco Bell, Taco bill? What's wrong with you? How do

1377
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: you say taco bell taco bill? But it's just emphasis parmaie, Hey, Parmalae,

1378
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: what is that? What? I was reading something about the

1379
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: up talk when the somebody talks in the all the

1380
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: ends of the syllables have that. That's like it's like

1381
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: kind of demeaning to somebody that's talk if they're talking

1382
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: to you. Oh, I didn't know what was deminia. I

1383
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: just thought it was annoying any that, and uh, like

1384
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: when they do that vocal fry you ever here like

1385
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: like yeah, I just wanted to say, I just I

1386
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: don't know many dudes, but it's like everyone if you

1387
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: have if you're going on Bachelor in Paradise, you must

1388
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: have vocal fry like that's on the resume. But you

1389
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: know you gotta be a little jeilous because you know

1390
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: their voice is never going to give out because that's

1391
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: like the most relaxed your voice can always be if

1392
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: you can. All right, well, let's let's into this podcast.

1393
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: What's what's your Instagram at Parmaly Music? Man? You know, man,

1394
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: it's it's I'm I'm that guy. Man. I just focused

1395
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: on the band because I feel like I just I've

1396
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: never been that. It's not it's not brain embedded in

1397
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: me enough, I guess. But um, I just had fun

1398
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: with the band thing and kind of leave the personal thing.

1399
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: I even talked to our girls, like, you know, her

1400
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: tous of follows. Should I get it? She's like, don't

1401
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: worry about it right now. I'm like, just find me

1402
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: on the band page. Do you want to sell tummy

1403
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: t because if you do, should get your own because

1404
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: you could. Don't give you the money and your self.

1405
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: What was it? Flat tummy? That's what the people sell.

1406
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: It's all the Instagram is influencers. Yeah, I don't flat

1407
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: tummy t Matt Thomas from Parma Lee you go to

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01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: see a body, do you? Two? We have things,