1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Ron and Nannian there were fifteen year olds in Europe 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: driving and they learned to drive on stick and that 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: that trend continues. Do you want to take a guess 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: at what percentage of the cars are manual transmission? Probably 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: left it then it's actually a little more than that. 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: It's about three the car Doctor, I was wondering, does 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: anyone have any thought about converting existing uh internal combustion 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Indians to use natural gas? Now? Why haven't we can? 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: Why have we converted from gasolene? And that's a fair question. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Nanian the 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage to orders are open. 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: But I am here to take your calls at eight 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: five five five six and now he running. Hey, welcome 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: aboard Ronan any in the car doctor here at your service. 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: We've got a busy hour. I've got a bunch of 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: things I want to talk about. I'm seeing some of 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: the comments upon the Facebook page from a previous hour, 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: especially hell and fully, God bless hell, and fully she's 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: there before me up on the Facebook phase. I think 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: she's ready to do the show before I am. Each 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: and every week, we thank you for being such a 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: loyal listener. And she's made some comments about how the 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: gas prices are affecting her driving habits, and I've got 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: some other comments as well. And if you've got some 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: comments about how are the gas prices affecting your driving 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: habits or your choices or what you're doing, or you've 30 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: got some thoughts on it, we want to hear it. 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: Where's your point of pain on the price of gas? 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: Where is it gonna be where you say, okay, enough, 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: it's enough, We're gonna we're gonna make some changes here. 34 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: We are just out of curiosity because we're just seeing 35 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: it's now up a bucket a quarter of almost a 36 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: dollar fifty a gallon here in New Jersey since the 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: beginning of the year. So we want to know what 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: your thoughts are on that. If you've got any questions 39 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: about automotive maintenance regarding hey, how can I get better 40 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: fuel economy? I'm here to answer those as well. But 41 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: of course we're here to answer all your car questions 42 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: at a five zero nine zero. I'm le's start right 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: out of the gate with Jeff in New Jersey with 44 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: a two thousand Chevy Malibu. Jeff, Welcome aboard, sir. How 45 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: can I help? Yes? Run? Okay? Um? First off, I 46 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: am a proud owner in the original owner of a 47 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: two thousand Chevy Malibu with the three point one V 48 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: six automatic trans engine. Okay, And I'm a little be 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: used here, confused because everything seems to be running okay. 50 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: But anyway, the check engine light came on back in August. Okay, 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: she came on for about three weeks, went out for 52 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: two weeks, all right, and then she came back on 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: September four for about three weeks or up until I 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: had body work done on the car where they have 55 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: to you know, this disconnected battery and all that, and 56 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: it was off for five days, came back on again. 57 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: So I said, gee, I'm gonna have to take it 58 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: to order zone to see what's going on. So I 59 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: I brought it there three times. The first time I 60 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: had it done, the you know, you plug in the 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: thing and you have the six final report that said 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: I had something related to the power train. They said 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: that it was, um, the problem solution probably was related 64 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: to the gas cap. Well, I had just bought a 65 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: new gas cap a month prior, so I was a 66 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: little skeptical. Then two weeks later they you know, the 67 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: check engine light still on, and so far she has 68 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: up until today, she hasn't done any flashing. She comes 69 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: on steady, you know, but no flashing, thank god. Okay, 70 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: the check engine light came on when I checked it 71 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: again the second time, sure enough I got the code 72 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: uh P one eight eight seven, And two weeks later 73 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: the same code. All right, So I you know, I 74 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: mentioned it to my mechanic. I said I'd like to 75 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: have it scanned. He was too busy, but he did 76 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: recommend me to a transmission specialist who he claimed it 77 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: was very reliable. But my question is, um, he seemed 78 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: to imply that it's related to my solenoid in the transmission, 79 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, because it says that you know, it's the 80 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: TCC release switch malfunction. Yeah. P seven. Then it says 81 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: repair four wine transmission. Hang on, Hang on a second here, Jeff, 82 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: So let's back up. Um. First of all, AutoZone is 83 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: not a diagnosis. AutoZone is just information. Auto zone AutoZone, 84 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: all the all the auto parts stores, all of them. 85 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: When they scan a vehicle and tell you what the 86 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: code is, all right, all that is good. All that 87 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: is good for in my opinion, is can you continue 88 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: to drive the car to get home? Or is it 89 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: a matter of life and death? You're gonna hurt something 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: if you continue to drive it, if you use if 91 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: you use an auto parts store scan as a diagnosis. 92 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: You know, like mom said, you get what you pay for, 93 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: all right, So free is free, Free is worth free. 94 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: So let's take it from there. How many miles are 95 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: on this Malibu? How many miles on this car? All right? 96 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: So it's a higher mileage vehicle. It's just broken. And 97 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: I like this generation Mallet, But my wife had an No. 98 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: Four and she'd still have our oh five, and she'd 99 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: still have it. But it just got to the point 100 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: where two or thousand miles or whatever it had on it. 101 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: I decided it was time because I was starting to 102 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: see parts availability issues on certain things that I didn't like. Yeah, 103 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: and that's a concern. You know this vehicles now, your 104 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: vehicles now twenty two years old, so you've always got 105 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: to have that in the back of your mind. So 106 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: let's talk about the two fault codes that Auto Zone 107 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: came up with. One talked about a gas cap once, 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: talking about out a tor converter clutch issue inside the transmission. 109 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: The gas cap full. Probably, I'm gonna guess, was say 110 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: at P zero four fifty six small ev APP leak. 111 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: That's generally the one the chuggers that, hey, you need 112 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: a gas cap right, probably, you know, maybe it needs 113 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: it was a four six, right, you know? Maybe yeah, 114 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: maybe it needs events Solinois. Maybe the purge is leaking, 115 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: but that would have to be scanned again and some diagnosis, 116 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: a smoke test looking for a small leak. We're looking 117 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: for a pimple on the flies behind when we're looking 118 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: for an EVAP small leak. So, and that won't stop 119 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: the vehicle and its tracks. And I won't say that 120 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: that won't hurt anything. But the issue there is if 121 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: the check engine light came on for an EVAPP fault, 122 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: and that's all that was wrong with the car, you 123 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: could drive it coast to coast without having an issue. 124 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: In most cases where the problem comes up, if the 125 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: vehicle develops another problem. The light doesn't change color, it 126 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: doesn't turn on and off. Unless it's a misfire. It 127 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: doesn't increase in intensity in terms of brightness. You don't 128 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: know you have the second problem, and you start to 129 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, accumulate issues as the vehicle ages, and now 130 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden a year and a half later, hey, 131 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: I gotta go through inspection, and now you find two 132 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: or three faults in there that you haven't taken care of. 133 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: So so it's to your advantage to deal with this. Now, 134 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: let's talk about the eight seven. The eighties seven is 135 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: an indicator. This vehicle has a torque converter clutch. What 136 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: does that mean? Do you ever ride a mini bike 137 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: as a kid? Do you ever have a mini bike? Alright? 138 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: Centrifugal clutch? Right? Okay, a centrifugal clutch for those that 139 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: maybe didn't have a mini bike back in the day. 140 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: Is it's a metal drum with some sort of friction shoe. Well, 141 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: we'll say asbestos, even though the EPD probably showed us 142 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: down because we're talking about such a dangerous thing as asbestos, 143 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: which it is, all right that under specific speeds and 144 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: trifical force would push the shoes out into the drum, 145 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: lock it and drive the minibike. It was a centrifugal clutch, 146 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: al right, based on speed and load a car. A 147 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: car uses that by taking the torque converter. The torque 148 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: converter is think of two fans. If you took two 149 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: floor fans and put them in front of each other, 150 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: if you turned one fan on, it would eventually spin 151 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: the other fan, all right. So a torque converter and 152 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: a transmission does that with fluid. One side is the 153 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: drive fans side and the other side is the driven 154 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: fans side. So fluid drives between the blades pushing the 155 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: other side. That's what turns the input shaft of the 156 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: transmission tool propelled the vehicle. Well, under certain conditions, they 157 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: want to mechanically lock those two fans, all right, So 158 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: they right, well they're not that they've gotta be in sync, 159 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: but they've got to be applied. So they they ground 160 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: the torque converter clutch solenoid, which opens a passageway of 161 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: fluid inside the valve body inside the trans mission. That 162 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: applies fluid and locks the converter. All right. Now, the 163 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: difference in rpm coming out the output shaft of the 164 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: transversus the input shaft of the trans with torque converter 165 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: on and torque converter off is how they know the 166 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: torque converter clutch solenoid released. All right, makes sense so far? Yeah, 167 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: the seven comes up because the computer said turn off 168 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: the torqu converter clutch. It expects to see a change 169 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: in RPM signal and it doesn't. Oh, all right, So 170 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: you've either you've either got a torque converter clutch solenoid 171 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: that's staying on a problem in the valve body, or 172 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: a bad torque converter. The torque converter is not releasing. Now, 173 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: the easiest thing to change is the solenoid, which I 174 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: believe is part of the valve body. I have to 175 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: go back and look in two thousand. All right, you 176 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: know you're you're at that funny stage. You're at that 177 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: funny age with this vehicle. You're either gonna try, you know, 178 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: if if you've got a simple repair, if the toru 179 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: converter clutch repair is I don't know, I'll put a 180 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: number on it in my mind. It's got to be 181 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: seven eight hundred bucks or less. Because the minute, the 182 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: minute you break the thousand dollar barrier at two and 183 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand miles, you might as well put a 184 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: trans in it. You know, you're you're, you're at that 185 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: point a trans will be and I'm North Jersey. I 186 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: can tell you three grand thirty five bucks. That seems 187 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: to be what the trans shops are getting. But you know, 188 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: at least you know what you got because you've also 189 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: you've also got to be concerned with quality of fluid, 190 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: dirt and sentiment that's built up in that vehicle over time. 191 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: And if the solenoid is clogged or restricted with particulate 192 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: from clutch material from the transmission, you know what, it 193 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: will work for a month, and all of a sudden 194 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't. So I think that I think the bigger 195 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: conversation with the trans guy, all right is if it's 196 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: if it's not the solenoid, could it be the trans 197 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: something internal? And then what would that cause to repair? 198 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: What's the price difference between the two. It's simple, all right, 199 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: because I can I can tell you this. Let's say 200 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: he says it's three grand. Three grands still cheaper than 201 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: three grand, is still cheaper than thirty and it's it 202 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: sounds like this, It sounds like this car kind of 203 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: fits you like a like a comfortable shoe so it 204 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: sounds like you're very comfortable with this vehicle. And you know, 205 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: as long as the rest of it's in good shape. 206 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: They are good solid engines. As long as there's no 207 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: major rust on the chassis or the flour pan and 208 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: the brake lines and everything else looks okay. Three grands 209 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: not a lot of money, even four grand. It's you know, 210 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: it's cheaper than a new car right now, which you 211 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: can't really buy that easily because of the shortage. So 212 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: I hope that cleared it up for you. Jeff. You 213 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: got any other questions, you know where to find me. 214 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: And as always, I appreciate the call. I'm running any 215 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: of the car doctor. We are back right after this. 216 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: Don't go away for the best in car advice, give 217 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: Ron a call eight five five five six zero nine 218 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Now back to Ron. By the way, Tom, 219 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: is um that your Halloween costume? You're scaring me? Yes, 220 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: it's the uh Roninian mask. I picked it up at 221 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: the at the lady at the you know, at the 222 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: Halloween store. I said it was the scariest one out there. 223 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: So somebody was telling me this week that the their 224 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: kid wants to go out, and I tell you what, see, 225 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: I've inspired Halloween costumes. Um. Two of the women at 226 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: the gym that I work out at, uh, their their customers, 227 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: and they're telling me how their kids are gonna go 228 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: out as mechanics. One is gonna go out in the 229 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: traditional suit and the other one's going out. They got 230 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: him a little doctor thing with the bag and the 231 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: stethoscope and the silver thing that sits on the set. 232 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: And the kid wrote they wrote card doctor on the 233 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: front of the see that Halloween car doctors, Um, trigger treat, 234 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: smell my feet, give me something good to eat. Doctor 235 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: erupting kids everywhere. That's it. So it's just what a 236 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: terrible thing. I'll tell you what I was at that 237 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: real quick. I was at the bagel store this morning 238 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: because I was bad. I had a bagel today, but 239 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: I did have it hollowed out. I got a holid 240 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: out bagel, which I don't know if that really probably 241 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: illegal in New Jersey. And um, there was a little kid. 242 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: They're dressed in a horse's costume without the hat on, 243 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: and he's playing with cars all over the floors, you know, 244 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: zoom zooming the cars over the floor and the counter 245 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: and everything. And I started talking to the mom and 246 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: dad and they said, yeah, he loves cars. We we 247 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: take his cars away. They take the cars away. The 248 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: kids started screaming and yelling. They gave him the cars back. 249 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: The kids calm um. I said, he's gonna be a 250 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: mechanic in the future. And we started talking and uh, 251 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just nice to see you 252 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: gotta nurture that whatever that is about the kids that 253 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: they like when they're young. And I think a lot 254 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: of parents today. The father said to me, he goes 255 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: only if he could only grow up to be a mechanic, 256 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: I could get a discount when I bring the car 257 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: in because I can't seem to find anybody to fix it. 258 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Then my order came up and I left that I 259 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: want to tell him who who was that masked man? 260 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: I can't go there, so um, let's go over to Lenny. 261 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: It sounds a lot like you. You take your cars away, 262 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: you start kicking the Yeah, it's it's right, you take 263 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: my car away. You're in trouble. So let's get over 264 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: to Lenny in Connecticut. O to Jeep Grand Cherokee, Leny. 265 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, Sir, at your service, How 266 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: can I help hello ron. Uh yeah, two thousand two 267 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: deeper and Cherokee. Uh. Problem initially started. Uh it was overheating, 268 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: ended up cooking the motor on it. I replaced the 269 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: engine and from what I seen was a common failure 270 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: with these was the fan relay on the frame rail. 271 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: So I put the engine in, I replaced the fan relay. 272 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: I didn't do any diagnosis. It was cheap enough at 273 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: the time. I just threw it in there, got it going. 274 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: UH had it running every day. A fan came on 275 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: when it was supposed to. And yesterday I had it 276 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: run and I was cleaning the interior on it and 277 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: UH shut it off and I heard the Uh heard 278 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: it boiling over. So the fans stop running. Fans fan 279 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: stop running. So uh, from what I found on the internet, Uh, 280 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: I got the one wire going to the fan relay, 281 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: which I have bad voltage too. There's a reference reference 282 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: wire which is a light green. I think it's supposed 283 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: to be coming from the PCM. So the key off. 284 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: UM here have a snap on test light. Well, test 285 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: lights are good, but let me let me ask you this. 286 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: How good are your eyes? Oh they're pretty good? Yeah. 287 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: Can you tell the difference can your eyes tell the 288 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: difference between nine volts and twelve voltes using a test 289 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: light bulb? Not really? Right? Yeah, you have a vault meter, yes, 290 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: I do. The test flight I have from staff on 291 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: shows the voltage reading on it. Okay, good, then we're okay, 292 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: all right, I like that. All right? You should have 293 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: you should have power on the gray wire at the 294 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: fan relay, all right, and then you know you should 295 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: see ground when the fan reaches the temperature on point 296 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: ground control is on that light green. Okay, what are 297 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: you two thousand two? So yeah, you're a light green. Um, 298 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: you should see that get grounded. So you should have power, 299 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: all right, and then when the fans being commanded on, 300 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: you should see that signal go away, right because the 301 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: PCM is gonna pull it to ground, all right, and 302 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: that's when the relay should close and the fans should 303 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: turn on. Okay. So this is so I put the 304 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: test light on the light green, I got four volts 305 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: to it, started up, the voltage reading goes away, turn 306 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: the A C on. Still don't have any so I'm 307 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: not supposed to have a voltage reading here. Do this, 308 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: do this, do this, okay, you gotta do you have 309 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: a headlight, an old headlight laying around. Yeah, okay, what 310 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: have you unplugged the fan and put that relay across 311 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: the contact for the for the fan connector. Okay, all right, 312 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: so when the fan is supposed to turn on and 313 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: you can see this work. This is a good visual, 314 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: all right, you'll look, you'll look the headlight up to 315 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: the fan connector, power and ground and the headlight won't 316 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: be lit. Okay, you can you can actually do this 317 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: a different way. You can have your power come in 318 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: on your gray all right, and if you'd like um 319 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: either and be careful what I do. What I tell 320 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: you to do here, cut that light green wire at 321 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: a place where you can solder and repair it or 322 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: disconnect that green wire somewhere along the way in the circuits. 323 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: So now you're going to provide the ground control, all right, 324 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: you ground that light green wire. That should close the 325 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: fan relay and turn the headlight on right correct, Okay, 326 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: Then you can watch put your light green wire back together. 327 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: And you don't have to do it this way, but 328 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: just it's just a good visual when you see that 329 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: ground that wire, when you see the PCM ground that wire, 330 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: change of state. If you had twelve volts there until 331 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: you turn on the A C or until it gets hot. Right, 332 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: you'll see a change of state. You'll go see high voltage, 333 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: go to lowball pitch when that relay closes again. If 334 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: the fan motor doesn't run, maybe you got a bad 335 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: fan motor. Right, always possible. So do those tests. Call 336 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: me back, let me know what you find. I'll be curious, 337 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: and I think you're on the right track. I'm on 338 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: any of the car Doctor. We are back right after 339 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: this Welcome back. We're on naming the car Doctor here 340 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: at your service at five zero zero. By the way, 341 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: let me point out Tom Ray is looking for victims, 342 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean callers to call in, and we're gonna get 343 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: you guys on. We want to do a tape to 344 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: air show come up in two weeks for the big 345 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: wedding show. And uh um, you know, I thought I'd 346 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: let Tom run the show that day. But you know 347 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: if I said, here's Tom Ray, the car Doctor, and 348 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: he'll tell you everything he knows about cars, it would 349 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: be what to three minutes? Tom, how much longer could 350 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: have go on? Yeah? I give you credit for that. 351 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: You know you know how to put gas in the car, 352 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: the car. You know how to scan the car. I've 353 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: taught you that. You know how to start, how to 354 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: change the oil? Right, you how to change the oil. 355 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: You've seen us do it enough times. Um, that would 356 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: be the show. I not know how to change the 357 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: battery once you took half of my car apart to 358 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: do so. Wasn't that amazing when you saw that? It's 359 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's uh, you know, it's funny. I 360 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 1: was watching a YouTube before we go to the phones. Um, 361 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: I was watching a YouTube video this morning, and it 362 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: was a Chrysler sales promo for the nineteen seventy Chrysler 363 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: Imperial and they were marketing it against the nineteen seven 364 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: seventy Lincoln Continental and just talking about the differences in 365 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: the cars and the things we looked for, the high tech, 366 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, high tech. In nineteen seventy on a Chrysler Imperial, 367 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: it had a warning light to tell you when you 368 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: were running law on gas? Wow? How cool is that? 369 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: Back then? That was pretty cool and and that was 370 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: a selling point. And they're saying the nineteen seventy Lincoln 371 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: doesn't have that. Hey, if you're so stupid you're driving along, 372 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: you can't watch your gas gauge. You should run out 373 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: of gas. Come on. Oh gosh. I had a teacher 374 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: in school one day he came by the house. He 375 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: drove by the house, he's hey, Todd, He's waving, waving, waving, 376 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden his car ran out of gas. 377 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: It was like, really, dude, So me and a couple 378 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: of the neighbor kids had to push him up to 379 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: the corner gas station to get did you did you 380 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: did you pass that year? Did he let you go? Uh? Yeah? 381 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 1: We told him we'd never tell us. Um he kind of, 382 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: you know, let us slide by. Is that how you 383 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: got to where you are? I knew something had to happen. 384 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: Uh hey, I was thinking, I'm gonna stop. Tomorrow night, 385 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: there's a first night. Can go out and do the 386 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: adult version of trick or drinking trigger treating trick or drinking, 387 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: Get a couple of shock glasses and go coredreating drinking 388 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: to all the neighbor's houses. Listen, if everybody wants to 389 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: come to my house, because I got news for you. 390 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: We bought this big giant bowl of candy. I'm gonna 391 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: get two kids and then I'm gonna get Yeah, that's 392 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: the way it works. Every time I keep saying we 393 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: got to give out dollars. Each kid gets a dollar, 394 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: I'd spend two bucks the price of a bag of candy. 395 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: With seven seven dollars, I'd say five bucks. You know, 396 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: it's funny. When my daughter was in vet school, the 397 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: streets she lived on, it was right off of a 398 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: town you know, town circle of town center, and they 399 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: used to close the street on Halloween. They would get 400 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: over a thousand kids. Literally, it was all Halloween up 401 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: and down the block. I mean we bought her. We 402 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: bought her a hundred dollar bag of candy. One year. 403 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: They went through literally everything in that bag. Oh for 404 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: the days. All right, let's get back to the phones. 405 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: Let's go to Stephen Maryland. Stephen Maryland, how are you, sir? 406 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for the patients. How can we help? I'm doing good, sir. 407 00:21:54,280 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: And uh, here's my issue. I have a Toyota, have 408 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: four hybrid, I don't have any check engine lights. I 409 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: never have vehicles running the fine, but I have a 410 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: question about the battery charge system. Uh. We don't do 411 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: a whole lot of interstate driving. It's usually around town. 412 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: But even so, the charge indicator on the on the 413 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: dash says uh. At the most, I'll have six out 414 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: of eight green bars saying that indicating the state of charge. 415 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: So six out of a total of eight. And I've 416 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: never ever ever seen a go up to eight, and Uh, 417 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what's going on there. I would think 418 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: that if I was going down a long hill eventually 419 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: would go up to eight. But I've never seen that, 420 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask you about that. So how 421 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: many miles around the car? Uh? Less than I think 422 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: what you're seeing is one of two things. I think, 423 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: a it's a normal condition, or there's going to be 424 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: a software update for that vehicle that will correct how 425 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: it displays. And the reason I say that is based 426 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: on this over the over the past fifteen eighteen years, 427 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: what I've seen with the hybrids, particularly Toyota. Toyota Engineer 428 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: is one of the better hybrids in the marketplace. I think. 429 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: I think they make a really solid hybrid vehicle, and 430 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: that their their vehicle is it's almost over engineered. You know. 431 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: Don't tell anybody this, but if I were if I 432 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: were to buy a hybrid, it would be a Toyota 433 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: because I think they make a real quality product. That 434 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: being said, they monitor that system by computer for more 435 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: than that, more than a few reasons of why and 436 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: if and what if there's a fault type of an issue, 437 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: and the fact that you don't have any dash lights on, 438 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: any warnings, any check engine light and so forth tells 439 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: me that provided there are no fault codes, that it 440 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: hasn't detected a fault. And the reason it may be 441 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: displaying incorrectly is because it's possible that the software that 442 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: runs the test needs to be updated. All right, So 443 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna tell you to do is talk to 444 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: your Toyota dealer and explain it to them just the 445 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: way you explained it to me. And you know, if 446 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: you register it, if you walk in and say, hey, 447 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, charging your battery system does not show under 448 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: any condition, in my mind, that should be a warranty visit. 449 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: Don't be afraid of going to the dealer and explaining 450 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: these things to them, and simply because I want you 451 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: to get it while it's under warranty, although you have 452 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: a long way to go. You know, if there's a 453 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: software update, great, If there isn't, I think the answer 454 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: they're going to tell you is that it's operating as 455 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: designed and that's okay because as you say, the vehicle 456 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: runs normal correct. Yes, you know, no issues, no problems. 457 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: So I have not right and now. And part of 458 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: this is based on I think it was probably eight 459 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: or nine years ago there was a there was a 460 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: version of Prius that had issues with how it displayed 461 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: battery charge rate whether it was fully charged or not, 462 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: and a software update resolved it. So we we look 463 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: at software updates a lot in a situation like this. 464 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: It's a great place to start because it may just 465 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: be a normal condition that's not being displayed properly. Makes sense, sure, yes, 466 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: well you know, I've got a couple of cordless lithium 467 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: I on drills at home, and I keep those on 468 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: charge all the time. As a matter of fact, when 469 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: the green light comes on and stays on on the charger, 470 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: I'll disconnect and plug it back in and it'll start 471 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: blinking again, showing that it's taken a charge. I'll do 472 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 1: that over a period of several days until the light 473 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: stays on endevor goes out. And uh, I don't heard 474 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: people say that you don't want to over charge or 475 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: prolonged a charge on a lithium ion battery, but I'm 476 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: not seeing that as as the uh, the real world. 477 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: I've had these batteries from my uh cordless drills. I've 478 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: had a hell over probably close to eight years anyways, 479 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: and uh, I still have the original batteries, right, what 480 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: what what brand battery? What bend really are using? I'm 481 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: using a craftsman and there kind of an oddball voltage. 482 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: I think it's eighteen point two. I think, yes, some 483 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: particular just maybe it's nineteen point two. But uh, yeah, 484 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: they've always worked very well. I wouldn't and and and 485 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: as much as and I understand, I think I understand 486 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: where your mind's going, Stephen, that you're comparing the one 487 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: to the other, even though they're both a lithium ion 488 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: um and not every toyota's a lithium ion. I think 489 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: there's also some metal nickel hydride batteries and some of 490 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: these cars too. I thought I read that somewhere as well. 491 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: But my point becomes, don't compare the two completely because 492 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: they are different technologies, different systems, obviously different applications. So 493 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: but but I respect what you're what you're thinking. I get, 494 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: I get your line of thought. If this show is 495 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: a percent, why doesn't that show and you know it's 496 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: a brave new world. It's time to ask the question because, 497 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: like I said, it may just be a software update 498 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: that reflects and changes. You know, they when they design cars, 499 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: and I'm amazed if you think about it, how well 500 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: engineers designed cars. You ever think about the fact that 501 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: they've got to design a car that works the way 502 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: it does in Maryland, Florida, Southern California, Texas, Alaska, and 503 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, in all points in between the temperature variation, 504 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: the climate, the environment, the the operating characteristics, they actually 505 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: do a pretty good job. And then they come across 506 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: a guy like you who's put you know, less than 507 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: what six thousand miles a year on a three year 508 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 1: old car, and maybe it's not enough to charge the battery, 509 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,239 Speaker 1: maybe it displays wrong, maybe it doesn't, and they need 510 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: to do a software update. Makes sense, you know, it's 511 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: just it's just it's it's so it's just time to 512 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: go back and ask some questions, all right, kid U, Alright, 513 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: well I'm definitely gonna do that, and if you have 514 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: any other issues, you give me a call. You'd be well, 515 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: thank you, sir. You take care. You're welcome. I'm running 516 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: naming the car doctor. We are back right after this. 517 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: Don't go away, welcome back. We're name of the car Doctor. 518 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: Let's get down to Florida and talk to Stanley. Oh 519 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: seven Mustang and a blower motor problem. Stanley, you around 520 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: with the car doctor. What's going on? Good afternoon. Um. 521 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: I bought this car about month ago. I had a 522 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: lot of work done to it. A C. I do 523 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: mechanic work for a living. Hate tell you this if 524 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: I do it. Um, the a C blower motor, there's 525 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: no shoes or electric going to the switch. I checked 526 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: the fuses, I've checked the relays, and that whole system 527 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: now is nothing's working on the heater or the fans. Nothing. 528 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: The whole system is no longer. Okay. But but the 529 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: a C. The compressor comes on and and so it 530 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: goes through the motions. Okay, so you can you can 531 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: get to the blower motor. All right. You got two 532 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: wires at the blower motor. Yes, all right. You gotta pink. 533 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: You gotta pink white and an orange black. Right, I 534 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: take your word where I'm in the house, right, So 535 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: so write this down. The pink white is gonna be 536 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: hot keion engine hunt it's not. So then you gotta 537 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: you gotta go back and trace that. That's power. That's 538 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: that's back to the fuse. You gotta go find the 539 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: fuse for the blower, which should be in the I 540 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: believe it's in the under instrument panel fuse block. I 541 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: don't know the fuse off the top of my head. 542 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: But why is that fuse blown? All right, I'll check 543 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: into I've checked the fuses under the hood. I'll also 544 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: check him on the two thousand, on the seven it's 545 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: on the passenger side panel. Okay, perfect box, well picked 546 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: feases well. Pink White actually goes back to wait a minute, now, 547 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: Pink White, if I recall correctly thinking about it goes 548 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: back to there's actually a blower motor relay in the 549 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: electrical center, in the battery electrical center under the hood. 550 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: All right, So you've got a relay which is a 551 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: standard six and a thirty relay. You know what the 552 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: pins Pink White is controlled, and that request comes from 553 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: the blower motor request control out of the climate control assembly. 554 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: So we've got to find out if that relay is 555 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: working and be if the thirty and fuse that powers 556 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: the relay is working all the fuses under the hood 557 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: or I mean with the box or fine, I checked 558 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: them a test light and the huge what you're talking 559 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: about that relay, they said, the one in front of 560 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: it hits the high beings or your high being words, 561 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: swap them out, swapped them and that things. Nothing's working, okay, 562 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: So then we've got to find out is that relay 563 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: getting a ground request? Well, is only one of the 564 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: possibility that relay that blower motor relay is off the 565 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: smart junction box all right, is powered through the ten 566 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: AM fuse. Fuse three, all right? Do you have if 567 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: you went to that electrical relay for the blower motor. 568 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: You should have a hot You should have the pink white. 569 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: You can tell where that is. You should have a 570 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: hot coming in. You should actually have a hot coming 571 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: in on two. You should have a hot coming in 572 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: on two legs should be hot, which is the main 573 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: thirty M fuse and eight six should be hot because 574 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: that's coming off a fuse three. So you should have 575 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: you should have two hots. You should have the pink 576 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: white coming up, and you should have a ground signal 577 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: which is the blower request coming out of the switch 578 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: under the dash well. The switch underneath the dash around 579 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: where the your radio goes in that area, that's whole 580 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: everything on it. Like you're not being repeating, but it's 581 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: just nothing's coming up voltage. So the climate control of 582 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: Simbly doesn't even light up. Okay, now you've got a 583 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: separate problem. Now you got to go and find out 584 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: why that's not lit up. Your Your problem isn't in 585 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: the blower motor. Your problem is why isn't the climate 586 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: control And that's going to be a matter of do 587 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: you have power and ground. If you've got power and 588 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: ground inputs that climate control assembly, then you've got to 589 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: have a big climate control assembly. There's nothing left. So 590 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: the climate control assimbly you're talking about for the three 591 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: gauges or your temperature, fan heat and all that you're 592 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: a see and all that little box right there below 593 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: the radio, that's what you're talking about. Well, I'm talking 594 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: about the climate control assembly is the assembly that has 595 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: the fan switch in it, right, I know where you're 596 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: talking about. Yes, that's whole systems dead power. Focus on that. 597 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: That's why that's why the blower is not working all right, 598 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: And that's gonna be a matter of do you have 599 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: power going into that assembly and you have ground. You 600 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: should have ground at G two O one if I 601 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: remember right, and that's a that's a simple ground location. 602 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: If you've got if you've got power and ground, then 603 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't light up, you've got a bad assembly. Well, there's, 604 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: like I said, the one that controls the fan speed 605 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: for the fan. That switch I've got that I'm play 606 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: that was outside checking it right. Then again, all four 607 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: of those connectors are we don't get. We don't get, 608 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: but we don't we don't care about those stanleys. Those 609 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: don't those have nothing that you know, if if if 610 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: the if the climate control assembly doesn't light up all right, 611 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: it has no power to it, then it has no control. 612 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: It has to provide. That climate control assembly has to 613 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: apply ground to the relay to energize the blower. If 614 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: that climate control assembly is not working, the blower is 615 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: never gonna work. Focus on the climate control assembly powering 616 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: ground in and start from there. Call me back with more. 617 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm running any of the car Doctor. We'll be back 618 00:33:53,560 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: right after this the back round. Any of the Car Doctor. 619 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: Helen Foley writes it on the Facebook page. Hey, Ron, 620 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: just curious were you saying? This is a response to 621 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: a recent comment I made this show this hour. Were 622 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: you just curious? Were you're saying that if there's a 623 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: warning light appearing, it prevents other warning lights from appearing, 624 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: like the vehicle is capable of showing only one warning 625 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: advisory light at one time. I'm just curious about this, 626 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: You know what, Helen, great question. You're paying attention, and 627 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: I really, I really admire that. Um. What I'm saying 628 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: is that if a check engine light is set for 629 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: one particular fault, depending on the fault, other tests that 630 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: the computer normally runs to test all of its systems 631 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: may not run. It may prevent it because it can't 632 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: get an accurate reading. For example, if a vehicle sets 633 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: an oxygen sensor fault code, the car may not run 634 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: its catalytic converter self test because it uses the oxygen 635 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: sensor to evaluate the cat So if you let the 636 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: O two censor fold go and then finally fix it, 637 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: you may find out six eight months after you hadn't 638 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: fixed it and ran the vehicle ragged, that you've created 639 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: and done damage to the catalytic converter. Other warning lights. 640 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: For other systems are likely to work. It doesn't interfere 641 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: with that. I hope that cleared it up. Helen, you 642 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: keep them coming. I'll keep answering them until the next time. 643 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm Ronandandy in the car. Doctor, thanks for being here. 644 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you