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Speaker 1: into Alabama winning a seventh title for Nick saban ad
Speaker 1: one with LSU and six now with Alabama, and perhaps
Speaker 1: none more impressive than this season. Alabama beat eleven SEC teams,
Speaker 1: then beat Notre Dame in Ohio State in convincing fashion.
Speaker 1: We'll also talk to South Palantonio. He covers the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Eagles and that mess right now with Doug Peterson being
Speaker 1: shown the door, and I don't think that's a good
Speaker 1: coaching vacancy. They got a lot of issues in Philadelphia.
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Speaker 1: He's the Cleveland Brown starting center. JC Tretter will join
Speaker 1: us coming up. What was it like to play the
Speaker 1: Steelers and then play the Steelers and you're introducing yourself
Speaker 1: to your fellow offensive lineman who you're bringing in just
Speaker 1: for that game. Bruce Arians, the Tampa Bay head coach,
Speaker 1: will join us coming up as well. You know, it's
Speaker 1: amazing how fast the expectations for a franchise can rise.
Speaker 1: We were talking about this last hour. The Cubs waited
Speaker 1: over one hundred years to win a World Series and
Speaker 1: then they fired their manager, Joe Madden a few years later.
Speaker 1: Red Sox supposed to be cursed. They clean house after
Speaker 1: they don't win it. They've done it again. The Eagles
Speaker 1: used to be in that group of cursed franchises when
Speaker 1: it's first Super Bowl three seasons ago. Now they part
Speaker 1: ways with Doug Peterson. I don't know what was the
Speaker 1: straw that broke the camel's back, the decision to pull
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts in week seventeen, or maybe Peterson was Maybe
Speaker 1: it had enough there, That's what I wonder, because we're
Speaker 1: seeing reports about a lot of cooks in the kitchen
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, and maybe it's best that the two sides
Speaker 1: decided to part ways and maybe Doug Peterson gets another
Speaker 1: head coaching john. But you win a Super Bowl, it's great,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't take long for that honeymoon to end.
Speaker 1: And we've seen this, and we saw this with Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: we saw this with the Cubs, we saw this with
Speaker 1: the Red Sox, and you can make you can make
Speaker 1: a case that they the Red Sox should have stayed
Speaker 1: with Terry Francona and the Cubs with Joe Madden. All Right,
Speaker 1: MC club, you got a pole question here we shake
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Speaker 1: great radio afhiliates around the country. I put up the
Speaker 1: Jello Waddle pole. Should Jello Waddle play? Yes or no?
Speaker 1: It just because it's we're still arguing about it over
Speaker 1: here and the results are oh so far yes, but
Speaker 1: it's early. I just put up a few minutes ago. Well,
Speaker 1: just from afar as a viewer, I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: I wanted him to be able to perform at a
Speaker 1: high level, not just make an appearance in the game.
Speaker 1: But whatever his motive was, I mean that has to
Speaker 1: be factored in. And maybe coach Saban said, look, if
Speaker 1: you get healthy enough, i'm gonna play you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put you in the game. I wouldn't have played him
Speaker 1: as much as they played him. I would have had
Speaker 1: him in there, but he was obviously laboring with coming
Speaker 1: back from a broken ankle, and I think we could
Speaker 1: all understand that you would be. I just he didn't
Speaker 1: look great. It didn't look comfortable, and as much as
Speaker 1: I want to say, boy I'm I'm going to praise
Speaker 1: his toughness there. I would have preferred that he didn't
Speaker 1: play last night, just because I want him to be
Speaker 1: able to showcase his talents, and he cleared wasn't able
Speaker 1: to do that. You know, Justin Fields had to play
Speaker 1: last night. I don't know how banged up he is,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll find this out at some point,
Speaker 1: but he didn't look completely comfortable healthy there. You lose
Speaker 1: your starting running back. You know, you got to score
Speaker 1: basically every time you get the ball, because we talked
Speaker 1: about it yesterday. If you're not scoring at least thirty five,
Speaker 1: you got no chance to beat Alabama, and Alabama put
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Speaker 1: is Nick Saban after last night's win, Well, you know,
Speaker 1: to me, this team accomplished more almost than any team,
Speaker 1: no disrespect any other teams that we had or any
Speaker 1: championship teams, but this team won eleven SEC games. No
Speaker 1: other team has done that. They won the SEC and
Speaker 1: one undefeated in the SEC, and then they beat two
Speaker 1: great teams in the playoffs with the break in between,
Speaker 1: played thirteen games and one undefeated. With all the disruption
Speaker 1: that we had in this season, I think there's quite
Speaker 1: a bit to write about when it comes to the
Speaker 1: legacy of a team. And you could see the emotion
Speaker 1: on coach Saban's facing Ease not one to show his emotion,
Speaker 1: and you saw that last night after the game, he
Speaker 1: was crying. I think with what had to happen for
Speaker 1: these kids, student athletes, whatever you want to call them,
Speaker 1: to have them really prioritize and have a myoptic view
Speaker 1: of life that we have to somehow, some way get
Speaker 1: this football season in and they did it. And to
Speaker 1: be able to do it during these times, these conditions,
Speaker 1: these hurdles, these obstacles, that's amazing. And that you only
Speaker 1: played SEC teams and then you go into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: you knock off Notre Dame, you knock off of Ohio State.
Speaker 1: That's as impressive as you will ever see in this sport.
Speaker 1: He's got seven titles now and I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: latest odds he has favored to win the national title
Speaker 1: coming up next year. Yeah, Paul, one thing I was
Speaker 1: thinking about with this college football season. Even though Ohio
Speaker 1: State didn't win this game, they still had a great year.
Speaker 1: Ohio State has been the class of the Big Ten
Speaker 1: for quite a while. Now they've separated themselves even more.
Speaker 1: It feels like the Big Ten is Ohio State and
Speaker 1: a bunch of teams playing around with some good football.
Speaker 1: The odds to win the national title next year it's
Speaker 1: Alabama three to one, Clemson four to one, Ohio State
Speaker 1: fifteen to two, Oklahoma fifteen to two, and then Georgia
Speaker 1: twelve to one, Notre Dame fifteen to one. It's basically
Speaker 1: the same teams sometimes interchangeable in there, Texas A and
Speaker 1: m Iowa. State's in there Florida, Texas at twenty five
Speaker 1: to one, North Carolina thirty to one, USC thirty to one,
Speaker 1: LSU thirty to one, Cincinnati thirty to one. We were
Speaker 1: also talking about, you know, coaches who get on the
Speaker 1: hot seat after winning a championship. Ed Orger run at
Speaker 1: LSU feels like that seats at least a little bit
Speaker 1: warm down there, and a year after winning a national championship.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll get to phone calls coming up. Want
Speaker 1: to make way for South Palenttonio the great football reporter
Speaker 1: for ESPN, and figured that if we could lasso Sall
Speaker 1: on a busy day and talk to him about what
Speaker 1: exactly happened in Philadelphia and led to the parting of
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and the Philadelphia Eagles. South, thanks for joining
Speaker 1: us on short notice. So was Doug Peterson fired? Yes,
Speaker 1: he was fired. And I think the chronology of it,
Speaker 1: Dan is pretty simple. You got to go back to
Speaker 1: last year he announced that Mike grow his then offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: would be staying on and then within a day later
Speaker 1: he had to reverse direction and Micro was fired along
Speaker 1: with some other assistant. So I think it started there
Speaker 1: and then it built up to the point where he
Speaker 1: said in his postseason press conference with Howie Roseman that
Speaker 1: he wanted to have more control over picking coaches and
Speaker 1: perhaps players. And that was a signal, And maybe it
Speaker 1: was a signal that we didn't really catch onto enough,
Speaker 1: but it was pretty clear. And then there was some
Speaker 1: offensive assistance. Let go. He had this group of offensive
Speaker 1: coaches helping him morning Wig Scangarella gone gone, and he
Speaker 1: wanted to make Press Taylor, his offensive coordinator, elevate him
Speaker 1: from quarterbacks coach, and the organization didn't agree with that direction,
Speaker 1: and so they parted ways. How attractive is this Eagles? John,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Dan, I don't know how attractive it is. Listen,
Speaker 1: is one of thirty two jobs, right, you know somebody's
Speaker 1: going to take the job. There's going to be a
Speaker 1: lot of money involved. You don't turn down at a
Speaker 1: NFL head coaching job. But if you have seven openings,
Speaker 1: you have a lot of more lucrative situations, more attractive situations.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the obvious. You're walking into a home
Speaker 1: cooked quarterback controversy. That's never good for a head coach. Two,
Speaker 1: your offensive line was absolutely devastated by injuries. Thirteen different
Speaker 1: offensive line combinations, most in the end fail. It destroyed
Speaker 1: Wentz's ability to play. And let's be truthful about it,
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts didn't look good on the run either, constantly
Speaker 1: under pressure. Your general manager perhaps made a hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty six million dollar mistake and kept his job. And
Speaker 1: so you're walking into a situation as a head coach
Speaker 1: where you already had the GM picked for you. You
Speaker 1: have two quarterbacks, one of whom had one of the
Speaker 1: worst seasons in NFL history, is certainly in franchise history,
Speaker 1: and so your first question has to be to Jeffrey Lurie,
Speaker 1: what are we doing at quarterback? And he says back
Speaker 1: to you. Right then he says, can you fix Carson Wentz?
Speaker 1: And you're saying, oh, oh, time out. The decision to
Speaker 1: keep Carson Wentz is an organizational decision. So what's the
Speaker 1: decision by the organization. Are we keeping him? Are we
Speaker 1: trying to move him? Are we shopping him? If we're
Speaker 1: keeping him. If you're telling I mean my job is
Speaker 1: to fix Carson Wentz, then that's a completely different conversation.
Speaker 1: Do you think Doug Peterson's happy he's out of there? Oh? Oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I know Doug Well. Doug is a really centered, grounded,
Speaker 1: nice guy. I've been covering the league going back to
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight. He's my favorite guy I've ever had
Speaker 1: to cover. Favorite easy bar none. He's available, he is truthful,
Speaker 1: he's a solid family guy. He's about making sure his
Speaker 1: players are taking care of and he's a really easy guy.
Speaker 1: To talk to and get along with. And I think
Speaker 1: Doug is about right now. In fact, I talked to
Speaker 1: someone close to him yesterday, Dan Doug is right now
Speaker 1: about taking some time, letting the air out of the
Speaker 1: pressure a little bit, go back to his home in Jupiter,
Speaker 1: Florida with his wife Jeanie and his beautiful family. They're
Speaker 1: very faith based, faith centered. They'll talk about it, they'll
Speaker 1: pray about it, and then they'll decide what to do.
Speaker 1: So I think he's relieved that he doesn't have to
Speaker 1: deal with what he had. Listen, you gotta remember he
Speaker 1: started the season in August with COVID nineteen. You remember that, right,
Speaker 1: He survived the deadliest disease known to man in a
Speaker 1: hundred years. And so maybe he's thinking, Okay, I got
Speaker 1: to just be mindful of where I am in life.
Speaker 1: I brought a Super Bowl title to a city that
Speaker 1: never had one. I have a beautiful family, I've made
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Let's just take a breath and
Speaker 1: see where we are. I'm talking to South Palantonio of
Speaker 1: the Mothership. Yeah, just trying to figure this out. When
Speaker 1: you start to look at they got some older players,
Speaker 1: they missed on some draft picks the quarterback situation there,
Speaker 1: there's other openings that feel like they're far more advantageous
Speaker 1: for somebody if they're going to take their first NFL job,
Speaker 1: that they would go into that. The expectation level is
Speaker 1: still high in Philadelphia. It's a little bit yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But would they let him go if they didn't already
Speaker 1: have a plan in place? Because normally you're if you
Speaker 1: make a decision like this, you have a pretty good
Speaker 1: idea of what you're going to do to follow up
Speaker 1: this decision. Yeah, and this is something that you and
Speaker 1: I talked about last week. I was against firing Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson and I'm still against it. And I said to
Speaker 1: you last week, I want to know what the plan is.
Speaker 1: Right you say you want a revolution, let me know
Speaker 1: what the plan is. So right now, I feel like
Speaker 1: they're interested in interviewing Mike Kafka, the quarterbacks coach under
Speaker 1: Andy Read in Kansas City. They tried to make Kafka
Speaker 1: a candidate for offensive coordinat or last year and we're
Speaker 1: rebuffed by Big Red. I think they will look at
Speaker 1: Eric the enemy and will definitely interview him. I think
Speaker 1: they will have a sincere, authentic interest in interviewing Deuce Daley,
Speaker 1: their running backs coach and assistant head coach, and they
Speaker 1: should News is really well liked in the locker room,
Speaker 1: and it's Deuce's time for sure, and they should look
Speaker 1: at him. I know they're interested in Brian day Ball.
Speaker 1: Day Ball is a Bob Lamont client, so is Howie Roseman.
Speaker 1: As everybody has well documented, Lamont likes to have the
Speaker 1: GM and the coach in the same place. Problem is,
Speaker 1: I think the Jets and the Chargers both have serious
Speaker 1: interest in day Ball, and day Ball has serious interest
Speaker 1: in those teams, which goes back to your point. Those
Speaker 1: two places maybe more loot, maybe more attractive than Philly
Speaker 1: because of Herbert and the second overall pick. I'll leave
Speaker 1: you with this, do we still know exactly what happened
Speaker 1: with the Nate Sudfeld decision and when he was going
Speaker 1: to play and whose call it was, Because I'm still
Speaker 1: fascinated by that, and it feels like that locker room
Speaker 1: may have gotten fractured because of this. Dan to quote
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, I'm onto Cincinnati. Great to talk to you South,
Speaker 1: Thanks for Johnny us South Valentonio the Mothership. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just still want to find out exactly what happened, just
Speaker 1: for curiosity's sake there, that's all. I'd like to find
Speaker 1: that out, just to go now, why did he need
Speaker 1: to play then? Because if you started him in that
Speaker 1: game against Washington, I would have no problem with it whatsoever.
Speaker 1: We want to see what we have. And now I
Speaker 1: don't agree with it because I still think you need
Speaker 1: to find out what you have a jail and hurts.
Speaker 1: But sal talked about the one hundred thirty six million
Speaker 1: dollar mistake that the GM made. Howie Roseman, that's Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz's contract. This isn't This isn't a great opening. Then
Speaker 1: you think about it, old team, bloated salary, messy quarterbacking situation,
Speaker 1: Guys who thought they were gonna get traded didn't get traded.
Speaker 1: Still there, what kind of coaches coming in? What's his
Speaker 1: system going to be? Then you want a super Bowl
Speaker 1: three years ago? Yeah? McLevin. But you have a fan
Speaker 1: base that will embrace you and love you no matter
Speaker 1: what happens. You almost said it with a straight face.
Speaker 1: You almost a straight face. You gonna have Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, and they're gonna call in Monday morning and
Speaker 1: scream it there's no way I would want this job.
Speaker 1: No way. Oh, the Jets job is exactly is an
Speaker 1: exactly paradise that I would exactly. I'd rather have the Jets.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the Jets situation. They're not in salary
Speaker 1: cap hell, they do have a d in quarterback. They
Speaker 1: have the number two pick overall, and it feels like
Speaker 1: the expectation level is gonna rise with you. It's not.
Speaker 1: It's already up here. You've got to come and get it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna rise with you. Now. It might be a disaster,
Speaker 1: but right now, if you said I could have the
Speaker 1: Eagles job or the Jets job, I take the Jets job.
Speaker 1: I take the Charger's job. I take Jacksonville. I really
Speaker 1: like the Churcher's job. So you want to be at
Speaker 1: the Jags coach so I can see you play on
Speaker 1: Yahoo on a Wednesday morning from London. Come on, that
Speaker 1: job is crazy or is it? What is it gonna
Speaker 1: be on TikTok down? Would you'd rather be the Eagles
Speaker 1: head coach? Yes? I think Jacksonville needs to decide what
Speaker 1: they want to do because they I love Trevor. Actually
Speaker 1: I probably would take Trevor, but well, that's a bit
Speaker 1: of ad Is this Philly mclovin or against the grain?
Speaker 1: NFL analyst mclovin. I still think there's some institutional excellence
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia that I have not seen in these others.
Speaker 1: You should be institutional. The Super Bowl ago, what they
Speaker 1: thought so much of their coach they fired him. You
Speaker 1: want to take Jacksonville, I would take Jacksonville over Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I got salary cap room, I got a rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: on his contract, and I got no pressure. I got
Speaker 1: no pressure in town. If they go nine in seven,
Speaker 1: urban Meyer gets a statue, he gets a bud light statue. Yes,
Speaker 1: Seton Andrew does have a point though, that Jacksonville as
Speaker 1: an organization seems to have one foot in and one
Speaker 1: foot out of the league. Like yeah, yes, yes, yes, technically,
Speaker 1: yes we are still here in Jacksonville. Yes, but urban
Speaker 1: Meyer won't allow that to happen. Now, if you bring
Speaker 1: in somebody else who's just gonna be sort of a
Speaker 1: puppet in that puppet government, then yeah, then you know
Speaker 1: Doug Morone is not gonna go I demand that urban
Speaker 1: Meyer's going in there. And if he's the guy that
Speaker 1: changes the culture, very few coaches can actually go in
Speaker 1: there and change the culture. Urban Meyer would change the culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mcklen What about that part about shot Kahn wanting more
Speaker 1: power more? Oh no, no, that's where urban Meyer goes.
Speaker 1: Uh okay, yes, mister kinn I think you misspoke. You
Speaker 1: said you were going to be involved in the roster moves.
Speaker 1: I think you misspoke it. You need to clarify that
Speaker 1: with the media. Yeah, poem. By the way, how does
Speaker 1: Florida State not get involved? If urban Meyer wants to
Speaker 1: go back to coaching and wants to go down to Florida,
Speaker 1: Florida Station should offer a million more than what Jacksonville offers.
Speaker 1: There there's a program that needs urban Meyer. I know
Speaker 1: they haven't been mentioned. Urban is going to be able
Speaker 1: to come back to college, don't I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. But Texas offered him. Texas offered him,
Speaker 1: you know, ten million. They they wanted him. Steve Sarkasian
Speaker 1: is flying to Texas. Did you see the tweet that
Speaker 1: he sent out to his recruits like watch this bleep,
Speaker 1: I'll call you after the game, which is always pretty good.
Speaker 1: You know, when you're recruiting and you say to your recruits, hey,
Speaker 1: I got hold on, I gotta go coach in the
Speaker 1: National Title game and I'll get back to you guys
Speaker 1: right after we win it. Yeah, Paul, last night's Alabama
Speaker 1: win was the biggest win in Texas football in the
Speaker 1: past ten years. Are they going to celebrate this, because yes, didn't.
Speaker 1: Texas embraced Steve Sarksian being the offensive coordinator at Alabama
Speaker 1: and Davante Smith winning the Heisman in Texas sort of
Speaker 1: glomed onto that that Hey, we got the the guy
Speaker 1: who was the guy who helped the guy win the
Speaker 1: Heisman and he's our head coach. Yeah. Mclen Remember that
Speaker 1: picture of Urban Meyer after he went at Florida and
Speaker 1: he has his recruiting class. Next show, so Cam Newton
Speaker 1: standing there even though he was in high school. Like
Speaker 1: these guys use is that how they perpetuate success by
Speaker 1: using this as a tool. You'll have coaches who called
Speaker 1: believe it or not. I can't say. One of the
Speaker 1: coaches who who I know did it because he told
Speaker 1: me called it halftime of a national title game. Halftime.
Speaker 1: Imagine being eighteen and you're watching the game and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're like, uh, hey, it's for you,
Speaker 1: Skippy what who is it? It's coach? Why, hey, coach,
Speaker 1: shouldn't you be talking to your team? It's halftime. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel so confident, and I'm gonna be even more
Speaker 1: confident when I get you on campus. Just want you
Speaker 1: to know right now I'm thinking about you, son. You're
Speaker 1: the only thing that's on my mind right now. I
Speaker 1: don't care about this game. I care about landing you.
Speaker 1: You're what's most import I'll walk out of that locker
Speaker 1: room right now. But if you're a player, there's part
Speaker 1: of you goes. I think I didn't think you should
Speaker 1: be thinking about the game itself. No way. The ego
Speaker 1: in you is like damn right no, because then next
Speaker 1: year when you're in the national title game and you know,
Speaker 1: coaches like a No, I don't. I almost did an impersonation,
Speaker 1: and that's not fair. I'm not even talking about this.
Speaker 1: I'm not even talking. I'm not even doing it. I'm
Speaker 1: just doing a coaching impersonation. Asked, he started with a huh.
Speaker 1: I thought, wow, wows post eagle spiring mclovin. You know,
Speaker 1: every time we do this where we call out somebody,
Speaker 1: Fritzie's the one that grimaces because it makes it harder
Speaker 1: for him to then call Michigan and say, hey, we'd
Speaker 1: love to have coachar Ball because every time we play
Speaker 1: Brady Hoke, I hear from somebody at Michigan. Where not
Speaker 1: funny anymore? Yeah, seton, Oh that's interesting. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: it was our fault. Todd wasn't getting these guests who
Speaker 1: it's at. Now you can I need you back for
Speaker 1: a little while. Ally, let me take a break here.
Speaker 1: Welcome back with JC Tretter. He is the starting center
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Speaker 1: He's also the NFL Players Association President. Glad to have
Speaker 1: you on after the big win there. I was curious
Speaker 1: when you saw the snap by Pouncy over Ben's head.
Speaker 1: As a center, when do you know that you've had
Speaker 1: a snap that is not going to hit its target?
Speaker 1: Usually right away? And I think out of my career,
Speaker 1: if you go back and listen to TV copies, I
Speaker 1: think they've caught me instantly cussing the moment the play
Speaker 1: gets gets started, because you know it immediately almost so
Speaker 1: it's basically an obleep. Yeah, do you apologize to the
Speaker 1: How long do you wait to apologize to the quarterback?
Speaker 1: They usually know that the center is usually pretty upset
Speaker 1: as is, so I think they usually lay off you
Speaker 1: for a little bit and keep their distance because they
Speaker 1: know you're pretty fired up yourself. What was your reaction
Speaker 1: when you saw that snap. It's a little funny because
Speaker 1: it's I probably every offensive line does it, but pretty
Speaker 1: much every first series of the of the game, you
Speaker 1: kind of sit there and say, man, at defensive touchdown
Speaker 1: would be nice right now, huh? And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the first play that happened, So you know,
Speaker 1: it got a few chuckles out of the guys on
Speaker 1: the sidelines because We've done that almost every game, said
Speaker 1: that before the first snap of the game, and then
Speaker 1: it happens, and it just gives you a bunch of momentum,
Speaker 1: kind of a shot in the arm to get that
Speaker 1: game started. The twenty eight to nothing. When you're leading
Speaker 1: twenty eight to nothing, it's still the first quarter, like
Speaker 1: that's it. I don't know what that feelings like because
Speaker 1: you still have the whole more quarters and you're playing
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh. What was that like that feeling? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean the first thought is you can't get complacent.
Speaker 1: You can't start thinking that that's that's enough. You know
Speaker 1: how talented they are on offense and how talent they
Speaker 1: are on defense. You gotta keep scoring, and you just
Speaker 1: gotta keep plugging away, understanding that you're you're off to
Speaker 1: a great start, but there's still a lot of time
Speaker 1: left and they can do a lot of damage really quickly.
Speaker 1: But when Pittsburgh cuts it to twelve, what are you thinking,
Speaker 1: we gotta score. You knew you had to put on
Speaker 1: a drive that's gonna extend the lead, push it further ahead,
Speaker 1: and just give the defense to time. I think if
Speaker 1: you look back at the times possession. We knew our
Speaker 1: defense was on the field the vast majority of that game,
Speaker 1: and we knew we had to put a drive together,
Speaker 1: a long one that gave them a time to rest
Speaker 1: and recover and then get back out there to finish strong.
Speaker 1: And it may sound strange, JC, but I did say
Speaker 1: this yesterday without a crowd there. If there was a crowd,
Speaker 1: I don't think Pittsburgh falls behind twenty eight to nothing.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if the crowd allows them to.
Speaker 1: It's weird. I just felt that that there was no crowd.
Speaker 1: It felt like that that neutralized Hinz Field. For you guys,
Speaker 1: how did it feel not hearing that crowd that you've
Speaker 1: normally heard before. Well, I think it also impacts the
Speaker 1: momentum of the game, where it's without the fans there
Speaker 1: to kind of revitalize the team or re energize the team.
Speaker 1: What's happening in the game has a lot more impact
Speaker 1: on the momentum of the game, where when when something
Speaker 1: goes wrong, that the team itself has to kind of
Speaker 1: straighten the course and not rely on the outside fact
Speaker 1: of the fans getting more involved and getting the crowd
Speaker 1: noise up. So I think that definitely impacts it without
Speaker 1: fans of the stadium. When something like that goes wrong,
Speaker 1: I think it impacts teams a little more. He's the
Speaker 1: Brown center, JC Treder joning us. He's also the NFL
Speaker 1: Players Association president. Tell me the story about Blake hence
Speaker 1: that Baker said he didn't even know who his offensive
Speaker 1: guard was, you know, getting ready for the game. How
Speaker 1: does that happen? Well, we've had some injury issues and
Speaker 1: some COVID issues in the last couple of weeks. We
Speaker 1: brought some new guys into the end of the team
Speaker 1: and we haven't been able to really practice that much,
Speaker 1: so we haven't had much time at the facility for
Speaker 1: the new guys to get used to practice and get
Speaker 1: to know everybody. So once our fill in left guard
Speaker 1: got hurt, you know, we had to bring in a
Speaker 1: guy who was here for a week and only practice
Speaker 1: really one day with us, and you know, he came
Speaker 1: jogging in. I remember pulling him aside and I was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: what don't you know right now? Like what are you
Speaker 1: worried about? So I can try to fill you in
Speaker 1: these next three minutes before we have to go out
Speaker 1: there and keep playing. But yeah, I think Baker said
Speaker 1: that he introduced himself the lock in the locker room
Speaker 1: before the game, the first time they actually spoke. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of a crazy year. How important is practice
Speaker 1: this time of the year in person, it depends. There's
Speaker 1: definitely a use for it when it comes to keeping
Speaker 1: your acclamation up and keeping your muscles and tendons and
Speaker 1: tissues loaded. You don't have soft tissue injuries. You need
Speaker 1: to be able to run around and cut that for
Speaker 1: that reason. But I think there's definitely a benefit to
Speaker 1: keeping guys healthy and having guys fresh, and there's always
Speaker 1: that balance of what to do. Now we are forced
Speaker 1: into kind of an unscheduled mini bye week, and I
Speaker 1: know when I got back to the practice field on Friday,
Speaker 1: it was probably the best I've felt this late in
Speaker 1: a season in a long time. So there are definitely
Speaker 1: benefits too, and it's up to the coaches to kind
Speaker 1: of make that balance of how much rest do you give,
Speaker 1: how much practice do you need? And now our hand
Speaker 1: was forced, but I think it definitely if you look
Speaker 1: at a glass half fold, helped us starting fast and
Speaker 1: just playing really best. What do you think coach to
Speaker 1: fans gave his like at home in his basement. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of nerves, a little feeling of
Speaker 1: helplessness after the first snap, Probably that those feelings go
Speaker 1: away a little bit, probably settles you in knowing that
Speaker 1: you get a big play to start the game. But
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's tough. He's been such a great leader
Speaker 1: for us all season to not be able to be
Speaker 1: there and be in it and help lead us. I'm
Speaker 1: sure as a difficult thing to sit back and have
Speaker 1: to watch what's the game plan against Kansas City? Offensively well,
Speaker 1: and then they're super talented and both facets, both their
Speaker 1: offense and their defense. I think, as in any game,
Speaker 1: we have to be able to run the ball. That's
Speaker 1: kind of been our staple all year. We have to
Speaker 1: be able to run the ball, keep the ball in
Speaker 1: our possession as much as possible, and then we got
Speaker 1: to be able to protect the quarterback. And they've got
Speaker 1: great rushers on that side of the ball, just like
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh did, and we have to do a good job
Speaker 1: of putting our guys in position to protect as long
Speaker 1: as possible, as long as Baker needs to make the
Speaker 1: throws he needs to make to keep moving the chains.
Speaker 1: Do you find yourself at all trying to calm him down, Baker, No,
Speaker 1: for I don't think I could. But I think he's
Speaker 1: been he's been so great, so great for us, both
Speaker 1: as a player this year and a leader, and he's
Speaker 1: really taking that next step in both of those departments
Speaker 1: this entire year. And he's everything you want as on
Speaker 1: the sideline, as a leader on the field, as a
Speaker 1: leader in the locker room, as a leader. I just
Speaker 1: don't want him to get into this I got to
Speaker 1: match Patrick Mahomes. I don't want him to get into
Speaker 1: this ego thing. You guys know your identity, and I
Speaker 1: think that's the reason why you guys are so dangerous
Speaker 1: is you're a running team and play action. And can
Speaker 1: you tell Baker I said that j C. Just so
Speaker 1: you remind him, don't try to do anything. You know,
Speaker 1: you're not Mahomes. You don't need to be Mahomes. You
Speaker 1: can still beat Mahomes. But you gotta listen to me. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll let him know. But I think Baker knows his
Speaker 1: only focus is winning right now. So I don't think
Speaker 1: he's worried about stats or anything like that. He's just
Speaker 1: worried about what the final score at the end of
Speaker 1: the game is and whether the Browns have more points
Speaker 1: than whoever they're playing. As the NFL Players Association president,
Speaker 1: everybody's all in on an extra game next season. Well,
Speaker 1: we already negotiated that, I know, But is everybody all
Speaker 1: in on this that? What was the vote? Do you
Speaker 1: know what the percentage was of those who said yea
Speaker 1: and nay. I think it passed by like sixty total
Speaker 1: votes right around there, So it was a tight vote.
Speaker 1: And I know that was a point of contention, was
Speaker 1: the additional game, But that's what the majority of the
Speaker 1: players voted to pass. With the games we made in revenue,
Speaker 1: minimum salaries, player safety issues, so we got games back
Speaker 1: in exchange for that game, and now we're continuing to
Speaker 1: work on those player safety issues and continue and try
Speaker 1: to make changes for the betterment of the player's health
Speaker 1: and well being even after the CBA has done. I
Speaker 1: just worry about another couple of dead games though, JC
Speaker 1: that don't mean anything. And I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: everybody once more, but more is not better here, And
Speaker 1: I know it gives you guys an extra paycheck, but
Speaker 1: I don't think the quality of play you're gonna have
Speaker 1: teams that are going to be clinching in week fifteen,
Speaker 1: and then what do you do with those games? And
Speaker 1: then what if you're playing a playoff team like Philadelphia
Speaker 1: did against Washington. Those are the things I'm concerned most about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think that's what the league
Speaker 1: has to look at. They purchased the option to go
Speaker 1: to seventeen games, and they have to make the decision
Speaker 1: of when they want to and if they want to.
Speaker 1: So you know, they've already made that purchase and now
Speaker 1: they have to kind of make those decisions and look
Speaker 1: at all the information of what's best for the game
Speaker 1: of football itself. Also, they haven't decided yet. They purchased
Speaker 1: the right to do it, but they haven't decided if
Speaker 1: they're going to do it next year. I think the
Speaker 1: last the last I've heard is they've talked about how
Speaker 1: they would do it schedule wise and what they would
Speaker 1: need to do, But I don't think they've officially moved
Speaker 1: forward with the seventeenth game as of now. Good luck
Speaker 1: in Kansas City and tell Baker that people did believe
Speaker 1: in the Browns. Okay, that will people did and do
Speaker 1: believe in the browns Oh, I hate when players do that, Okay,
Speaker 1: and tell him to keep his hat on backwards as well.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm fine with that. I don't have any
Speaker 1: problem with that. Okay, sounds good, all right, thank you. JC.
Speaker 1: Absolutely have to go on jac Treder. He went to
Speaker 1: an IVY League school, McLevin Well, I mean Cornell, I know,
Speaker 1: isn't that Cornell Farming School some sort I'm not really sure.
Speaker 1: I would love to have gone to sort of an
Speaker 1: IVY League school. I like how you know, But but
Speaker 1: do people at Princeton just look down upon you? Really?
Speaker 1: Ross Tucker looks down on me? Yeah. Sarah Spain, the journalist,
Speaker 1: was honored by the IVY League last night. I said, oh,
Speaker 1: that's amazing that uh State school is in the Ivy's
Speaker 1: in Honorich she went to Cornell. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: it was a terrible IVY League Twitter war that was disgusting,
Speaker 1: to be honest. YEA. So it's Harvard, Yale, Princeton, yep,
Speaker 1: those are the three. Yeah. Then I can look down
Speaker 1: upon everybody else, like if you went to Penn Penn
Speaker 1: Penn is Penn Penn State, which I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about or unless you went to Wharton School
Speaker 1: to business. Yeah, Harvard being the one. I think. I
Speaker 1: think Harvard, Harvard's then Princeton or the Princeton. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so Harvard, Yale, Princeton are like Mahomes, Rogers and Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson and then you drop a tier to the Josh
Speaker 1: Allen tom Brady. Is that kind of how it is?
Speaker 1: So we're tanging quarterbacks to it. Russell Wilson's sort of
Speaker 1: the cornell of that list. Then, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if for Uss October he wasn't Russell wasn't cooking, but
Speaker 1: October his Bunsen Burner was not on in the last
Speaker 1: six weeks of the season. And Rogers is like if
Speaker 1: Harvard had an off year last year but Harvard was back.
Speaker 1: So like Ryan Tannehill is Brown? Is that I don't know,
Speaker 1: sort of a pass fail guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, laid back. God.
Speaker 1: I if I would have known Brown was pass fail,
Speaker 1: like I would have really tried to get into Brown
Speaker 1: kind of like if all Tannehill has to do is
Speaker 1: hand the ball off and here's one hundred million dollars, great, fantastic. No,
Speaker 1: I think it's run or fail for Ryan Tannehill. It's
Speaker 1: either Derrick Henry runs or we fail. You go give
Speaker 1: it to him. It's not pass fail. Yeah. Well, the
Speaker 1: real thing with Brown, if we want to get real here,
Speaker 1: is they were famous for co ed bathroom. It's like
Speaker 1: the freshman door was like there's not a single male
Speaker 1: or female bathroom in the whole campus. So like people
Speaker 1: are like, am I going to Dartmouth to Brown? A
Speaker 1: lot of people chose dark. Piece of that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't get that it's a college thing. I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of care. I know my daughter, I'm moving
Speaker 1: her in last year or the year before, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you got co ed bathrooms, and I go,
Speaker 1: why she goes? I don't. I don't know. Well not,
Speaker 1: I go, I did? Do you need it? Yeah? Well
Speaker 1: you say coed bathrooms. I'll say this delicately. Is it
Speaker 1: for the cleaning part of the bathroom situation or the
Speaker 1: the youth the business parts? So like the urinals and
Speaker 1: are together and the show I didn go in. I
Speaker 1: just saw boys going in and then girls going in.
Speaker 1: So if you're getting your stuff ready to get in
Speaker 1: the shower, there's a bunch of people near you. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like an open like it you know,
Speaker 1: if brown is I mean it is open. These are
Speaker 1: full use doors for a bathroom. Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: wear a towel before you get in, but it is
Speaker 1: like it is open. They weren't built that way. They
Speaker 1: were built as single sex and then they just abolish. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know the Syracuse ones. It's anyone can use the bathroom,
Speaker 1: but there's individual doors for privacy for each one of
Speaker 1: the stalls. But still, I like that's crazy. It is
Speaker 1: right crazy, pass veil. Okay, I don't need coed bathrooms.
Speaker 1: That's the father three daughters. I don't need any knuckle
Speaker 1: heads around them. All right, let me take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll get to phone calls coming up. We'll update our
Speaker 1: poll results as well, and we're back after this and
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Speaker 1: the Peacock app. Get ready for Spring football? Yeah, remember
Speaker 1: then when that was just an idea a few months back,
Speaker 1: we kind of forgot about it. These are the conferences
Speaker 1: that are planning to play football in the spring. I
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of football, but some kind of football.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's a four or five six game schedule.
Speaker 1: Big Sky, Big South, c AA, MEAC, NBC AN, ec OVC,
Speaker 1: Patriot League, Pioneer League, so CON, Southland, SWACK. This is great.
Speaker 1: This is Pauli's wheelhouse. Yeah, Big Sky. And they're all
Speaker 1: starting at different points, like some some teams may start
Speaker 1: in February, some may start mid March. You know, you
Speaker 1: look at what's happening with basketball in the NBA, with
Speaker 1: college basketball, just everything's been overshadowed by the l in
Speaker 1: college football, certainly the NFL. And if you're watching what's
Speaker 1: going on or keeping an eye on what's going on
Speaker 1: in the NBA, maybe if you haven't been, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be surprised because they're canceling games. NBA is probably gonna
Speaker 1: have to do a reset here, and then you got
Speaker 1: college basketball. It gets commonplace. If you go, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to cancel that game. We're gonna have to cancel
Speaker 1: a couple of games. It just feels like every game
Speaker 1: is becoming a coin toss of will we play or
Speaker 1: won't we play? Then you got this mystery with Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving left the team. This was after the Riots
Speaker 1: in the Capitol. It didn't want to play that night.
Speaker 1: He told his teammates he wasn't going to play. Apparently
Speaker 1: did not tell his head coach Steve Nash. Kyrie is
Speaker 1: not returned to the Nets. They're still playing. They were
Speaker 1: without Kevin Durant because of COVID. But this mystery with
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, and I don't know if it's just because
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to play because of what's happening or
Speaker 1: happened in our nation's capital, but that has been a
Speaker 1: great mystery here. If Kyrie doesn't want to play for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, that's up to him in the organization. But
Speaker 1: to be a professional, which he's always asking members of
Speaker 1: the media to be professional, be professional and let your
Speaker 1: coach know where you are. I mean, that's only fair
Speaker 1: in a situation like this, And it's not asking much
Speaker 1: because when Steve Nash doesn't know where you are, or
Speaker 1: when your teammates know more than your head coach does,
Speaker 1: that's not being professional. If there is something that's bigger,
Speaker 1: something more important, if there's health, if it whatever it
Speaker 1: might be, it can be all sorted out. But you
Speaker 1: need to be a professional and let your head coach
Speaker 1: know where you are. All right, update the pull results, McClement.
Speaker 1: Should Jalla Walla played last night? Say yes? Forty? No,
Speaker 1: he had not won a national tie and he is
Speaker 1: a junior, true junior. Every four year class recruited by
Speaker 1: Nick Saban in Alabama has won at least one national
Speaker 1: championship that spans fourteen classes there, which is pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: Give me something to go with in the final hour
Speaker 1: here poll question wise Bye. So we're having this debate
Speaker 1: all day about the number two pick, and now the
Speaker 1: big debate is if we can't decide where to put
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. I know you don't want to dive into
Speaker 1: draft yet, but I just don't get it. I don't
Speaker 1: get eyeballing. The dude had the best season, Like since
Speaker 1: why is he different than Joe Burrow. I don't understand
Speaker 1: what Joe Burrow is that he's not except Joe Burrows faster.
Speaker 1: I think Joe Burrow is a better athlete. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: And the only research that I've done on Mac Jones
Speaker 1: is the research that somebody who gets paid to do
Speaker 1: research told me and said, you know, we're still in
Speaker 1: the beginning stages of assessing these players. But Mac is
Speaker 1: not a guy who extends a play. Mac in the
Speaker 1: pocket is great, he's comfortable. But he's got a pro
Speaker 1: offensive line, pro wide receivers, in, a pro running back,
Speaker 1: and he's got a Hall of Fame head coach. You're
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, facture all of those things in
Speaker 1: or take those things out in assessing how good he is.
Speaker 1: I still go back to if I look at Mac
Speaker 1: Jones and I say, can he throw players open? Well,
Speaker 1: they're always open at Alabama and there's no pass rush.
Speaker 1: Ohio State hit him twice last night. He should put
Speaker 1: up great numbers, But I don't know if he's a
Speaker 1: first round draft pick or a third round draft pick.
Speaker 1: Is it isn't that the story with a lot of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks like that. Now it's it seems to be clear
Speaker 1: that it's you have to look over the pieces of
Speaker 1: round too. Obviously at the same situation, Joe Burrow at
Speaker 1: the same situation. Yeah, that's why I didn't know if
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was a first round draft pick or a
Speaker 1: fifth round draft pick or somewhere in between, because the
Speaker 1: previous season at LSU, I think the scounts looked at
Speaker 1: him as a fifth round draft pick. Then he became
Speaker 1: the number one pick overall with TWA. I think Ta
Speaker 1: was always in the mix to be a high draft pick.
Speaker 1: I just don't know, Like, if you're the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: and you could trade for Deshaun Watson and you trade TWAH,
Speaker 1: you trade the third pick overall, you trade another pick
Speaker 1: this year, and maybe you trade another pick the following
Speaker 1: year and you get Deshaun Watson. Would you do that?
Speaker 1: And I don't know if the Dolphins would do that,
Speaker 1: But if I'm the Dolphins, I at least make a call. Yeah, Poem,
Speaker 1: They're only two and a half years difference in age
Speaker 1: two and Deshaun Watson less than three years. But Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson had an unbelievable season for a team that won
Speaker 1: four games. You really did. And you have to look
Speaker 1: at the number. You have to find the numbers to go,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, yes he didn't. He was unbelievable. It's
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