1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ and 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Buck with you? Buck? What's come on? Man? 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Hey DJ? Look, I just want you to know my 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: fitness in most recent days has been like a lot 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: of walking and like a daily yoga class that I 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: go to. But after taking any activities on Saturday, the 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: flag football stuff, I might have to pick it up 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: a little bit. Djoh, Like, I saw Team USA running around, 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: and I saw our NFL guys not unable to grab flags. 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: I feel like, maybe you know, we put a jersey 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: down and just kind of go out, didn't show people 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: how to move around a little bit. 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Boy, that was an eye opener, huh. I mean until 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: the last game they got their breaks beat off of 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: them by that American team. By the way, that one dude, 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: I didn't I was kind of catching it here and there, 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: so I didn't see it all the way through. The 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: kid was name was Ducet? Is he related to early Ducet? 20 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: He had to be somehow related to him. I've wondered, Well, 21 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: you know that he's been the quarterback forever and that 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: team has been together forever, and you know this because 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: I remember your kids played and stuff. 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: It is a completely different game and in our own arrogance, 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: like we think, oh man, you know, we figured it out. 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: And that was a nice example of what happens when 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: you step into something that you haven't fully prepared for 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: or whatever. That's it. The pros could get up to 29 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: speed and learn how to play it, but you're just 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: not going to roll out the ball, no, and be 31 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: effective in flag. But it was probably a humbling experience 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: and I opening experience watching Team USA take on two 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: teams loaded with NFL guys. 34 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: I got a great text from an NFL executive on this. 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: He said that was like watching the greatest golfers in 36 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: the world playing putt putt versus the babe ruth of 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: putt putt. 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean it was. It was funny. It was 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: funny to watch. It was great. 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Uh. 41 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: The NFL has made a great push for flag football. 42 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: I'm all about flag for boys and girls. All football 43 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: is football to me, but they're different skills that can 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: be that are required to do it. 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: For kids. 46 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: I think is great because we talk about hand that 47 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: coordination and those things. But I think you see it 48 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 2: as an adult. The way they're hydro up and down, 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: getting skinny, and it's a lot of they literally love 50 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: doing about changing levels. 51 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: That's what that guy was doing too. His flags were 52 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: scraping across the ground. It couldn't get to him. Yeah. 53 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: I love our guy, Luke Keickley had a tough one. Man. 54 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: I love Luke, but that was not that was not cool. 55 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Just put him in space. These little dudes who are 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: so twitchy and dynamic and and yeah, to me, that 57 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: was the other thing, just watching them get like get 58 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: sideways and then drop levels. Yeah, that's a different whole 59 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: skill set. You get killed if you try and do 60 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: that on NFL field. But it's a heck of a 61 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: maneuver and flag. Yeah, and it would look at the 62 00:02:58,919 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: time of year. 63 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 2: It was in it to watch Tom Brady and those 64 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: guys who put it on, it was. It was kind 65 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 2: of funny. They passed out tickets. We had a guy 66 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: that was a friend who sent a lot of the 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: high school kids went and they said they had a 68 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: blast seeing the pro So it was. It was cool experience. 69 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: It was at a little soccer field downtown LAFC put 70 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: it on, so it was it was cool. I can't 71 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: say that it was packed there, but it was something 72 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: to watch on a Saturday. 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I find myself just looking at it. This almost 74 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: just kind of laughing, just going like that. It's a 75 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: different it's a different sport entirely. And if we are 76 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: going to send NFL players over there, they better they 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: better lock in and practice a little bit on how 78 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: you pull flags and some of the other things. But 79 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: to me, size throw side out the window. Just get 80 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of little quick change of direction dudes. Man. 81 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking about like all those remember all those 82 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: like one hundred and seventy pounds running backs we've seen 83 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: like Dree Archer and guys like that, like going in 84 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: the world. 85 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: Bring them all back. 86 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Bring those guys can all come back now, just go 87 00:03:59,440 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: get it. 88 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: Bring all bring all the little guys back. And yeah, 89 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: it's a speaking game. 90 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: Mitchell, Like I keep Mitchell, be on that team. Keep Mitchell. 91 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: It's all that. And those guys need to be your 92 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: pass rushers and you got to run around your quarterback 93 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: has to be. It's just a different game. It was 94 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: fun to watch. Give Tom Brady krebit. 95 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: Brady threw out some nice balls out there, man, he did. 96 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: Then if you could put him behind a line that 97 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: couldn't ensure that he would never get hit. 98 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he still can throw it. 99 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely can throw it. But what I love about 100 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: him and the top guys, like seeing the videos behind 101 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: the scenes of him preparing for that moment. He is 102 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: never He and all those guys are wired same, like 103 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: Derek Jeter practicing before he threw the opening pitch in 104 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium, like he is working it. They would never 105 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: put themselves in a position where they look like they 106 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: could be embarrassed. Now ever, Yeah, ever, it wasn't no, never, 107 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: They would never look like that. They are always going 108 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: to be ready to go, which I can appreciate. 109 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Buck, we're getting towards the back end of the 110 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: Pro days here. We've got a few more or it'll 111 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: get us through April, and at that point in time 112 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: we can kind of recap what we saw. But I 113 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: did want to get your thoughts on you know, where 114 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: we are right now in terms of the buffang of 115 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: workouts is what I refer to it as, like just ya, 116 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: We're not going to have complete numbers on everybody anymore. 117 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: It's just not going to happen if guys don't think, 118 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, they need to do something, they're not going 119 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: to do it. I mean to me, I think it 120 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: can impact you if you're closely graded with some other folks, 121 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: But if you've established yourself, I get it. But man, 122 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: that's where we are. We're gonna see it every year. 123 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: It's just a buffet. I'll take a little dis I 124 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: don't want any of that. 125 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there is that component, and it makes it. 126 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: I would say that. I'm sure internally teams have different 127 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: ways of being able to kind of get all the 128 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: athletic measurables. I think a few years ago we talked 129 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: about the rams. They were very comfortable taking Van Jefferson 130 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: because they had all the GPS numbers. Now they're able 131 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: to get the numbers off the jerseys and those things. 132 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: I think more teams are comfortable living in that world 133 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: and the things that were really important back in our 134 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: when we talked throughout the vertical, the short Showgle, the 135 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: three Cone, the things that you had to have. You 136 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: have to live without those things because they're not doing it. 137 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: And let's be honest, if we were revising our kids 138 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: of family friends in this process. Once you get through 139 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: the combin, if I do everything at the combin. 140 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: We're good. 141 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: I'm shutting it down just because you don't. You want 142 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: to avoid the injury risks that could happen, you know, 143 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: in doing fifteen different workouts after you do your pro 144 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: day workout in the combine. I understand it. It's just 145 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: a different world that we're living in. 146 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't advise guys to do that either, when 147 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: you do everything at the combine, weighing at your pro day, 148 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: shake some hands, kiss some babies, and that's it unless 149 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: you want to try and you know better your times 150 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: if you feel like they weren't representative of who you 151 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: are as a player. I don't really see the need. 152 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: You've already done the whole workout. Go watch you guys 153 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: all have the video of the combine, Go watch it. 154 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: I mean, that's it. I mean, I mean really, that 155 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: would be the benefit of if you're working at the combine. 156 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: And also if you're working at the combine, you're dealing 157 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: with pristine conditions. You don't have to worry about well 158 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: that you don't have to worry about the turf, those things. 159 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: It is a fast surface, has been proven by the 160 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: times that are put in there. If you're going to 161 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: work out to me, work out of the combine if 162 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: you invite it, and then shut it down after this, 163 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: start getting ready to do football stuff. 164 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: Now we've got as we're recording this, I believe Ohio 165 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: State is maybe tomorrow. It's coming up quick here, I know, 166 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: right around the corner. I wanted to hit you on 167 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: this topic before we get to some of the things 168 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: you want to cover today. We're going to talk about 169 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: these teams and the big moves that they've made, the 170 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: major moves that they've made so far in the offseason 171 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: and kind of set the table for the draft. But 172 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: I didn't want to get your thoughts on downs cale. 173 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: Downs is going to be one and more intriguing conversations 174 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: I think around the league as we get into these 175 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: draft meetings, coaches are involved. I think there's gonna be 176 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: a little wider range of outcomes for him. 177 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: And the reason why the outcomes will will vary. Coaches 178 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: will value him more than personnel people. Coaches will see 179 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: high IQ, versatile, dynamic player in terms of being able 180 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: to take what we want and being able to execute 181 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: it on the field. The evaluators, the scouts and those 182 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: man He's not the impressive athlete. He's not like, he's 183 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: not a difference maker in terms of size. He doesn't 184 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: have great like the speed or the explosions or the 185 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: things that really excites you if you're a scout saying, ay, 186 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: he could be this kind of like when you remember 187 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: when Isaiah Simmons was coming out and how excited everyone 188 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: was about what he could be in those things. Downs 189 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: doesn't strike me as that, But he strikes me as 190 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: a really really good football player who's going to play 191 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: the game the right way. He can handle all the information. 192 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: Two pro style systems Alabama, Ohio State respectively. They gave 193 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 2: him a ton of responsibility and he handled it. The 194 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: value for him would be in the coaches world, not 195 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: necessarily in the scouts world, because he can't necessarily check 196 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: off the boxes that scouts typically won't checked off as 197 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: an athlete. Yeah, he's just. 198 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: Not big and long, you know. And then we're not 199 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: going to get a forty time on him. He's not 200 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: going to run, so you don't have any of that, 201 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: which you can go off the GPS stuff to get 202 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: all that information, but there's not a ton of the 203 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: splashy plays like you go back and watch Deena minute Purdue. 204 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: You'll see a ton of splashy play as you go 205 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: watch McNeil Warren throughout his time at Toledo. There's big hits, force, fumbles, interceptions, 206 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, pick six is all that stuff. Whereas with downs, 207 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: like you'll see a punt return here or there. You'll 208 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: see you know, he's a firm, reliable tackler, but he doesn't. 209 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's not Derwin James, it's not Kyle Hamilton, 210 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: it's not you know, Emon Warrior. We saw last year 211 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: from a trade standpoint. So look, he's my eighth or 212 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: ninth player, So I have him as one of the 213 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: top ten guys in the draft. I just think he's 214 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: a rock solid football player. We talk about doubles off 215 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: the wall. He's a double off the wall all day long. 216 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: Like you, I think you know exactly what you're getting 217 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: with him. But sometimes when you're picking up there in 218 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: the top ten, you don't want that. Some teams are 219 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: looking for a little sexier splash there. Yeah. 220 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: Now it is funny because the conversations like going into 221 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: this process, you know, is he the best player in 222 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: the draft? Easy? A top five player in terms of 223 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: he's gonna be picked within the top five. What kind 224 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: of impact does he provide to me? His value will 225 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: rise potentially the most over this next month when he 226 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: goes and sits down and meets with coaches and does 227 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 2: that stuff. His IQ, his understanding, those things are the 228 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 2: value that he bring. And I could see like a 229 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: team like the Giants, for instance, right Dinard Wilson defensive 230 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: coordinated who is very familiar with defensive backs. They're able 231 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: to have these high end conversations about ay, this and 232 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: that schematic stuff. He masters it quickly. That goes up 233 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: as you know, we talk about it all the time. 234 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: Coaches find comfort and people that know what they're doing 235 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: and know how to do it. Scouts find comfort sometimes 236 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 2: in the hyper athletic player that could be Superman if 237 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: we're able to get them this other stuff. His value 238 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: will rise as the coaches getting more involved in the process. 239 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 2: And also it will depends on who swings the gavel, 240 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: and that is it a coach driven process or a 241 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: GM driven process, given who has the authority on the 242 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: picks in the final fifty. 243 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: Three, no doubt. Last thing, and then we'll take a 244 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: quick pause, and I want to get to these teams 245 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: and what they accomplished here in the off season. But 246 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: I want to present this question to you. I was 247 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:46,239 Speaker 1: looking at the Jets and pulling up their roster, and 248 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: I've been saying this about them, as you know, we've 249 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: been talking about throughout the whole offseason, and they are 250 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: a twenty seven team to me, everything pointing towards twenty seven. 251 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: So it's you know, who helps you the most, you 252 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: know in twenty twenty seven. Why I've kind of flipped 253 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: and said, Okay, I could see Reese going there instead 254 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: of Bailey, you know, potentially as a pick there. And 255 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,479 Speaker 1: then I start thinking about, okay, well, if the quarterback's 256 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: coming in twenty seven, what helps the quarterback the most? 257 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: If you're trying to use these picks, they've got two 258 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: and sixteen, they go in a couple of different areas there. 259 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: But this offensive line's got some good young players. High picks. Fashan, 260 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: who's a first round pick, Membo's first round pick. Those 261 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: are your tackles. Tipman's the second round picks, a good player. 262 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: They've got Josh Myers at center. Now, they've got Parum 263 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: at guard. They got a pretty good offensive line. You've 264 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: got Bryce Hall. You know, we'll see if they can 265 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: eventually get a long term deal done there. So they've 266 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: got a back who's still going to be young in 267 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven. You've got Garrett Wilson as a as A one, 268 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: but ad Ni Mitchell TBD height end position, Mason Taylor 269 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: hoping he's gonna end up being a really good player. 270 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: But I was looking at them going like, what what 271 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: are the picks there? If you wanted to just say, 272 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: we're going to try and build the ultimate safety net 273 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: for the quarterback we pick in twenty seven. So this draft, 274 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: we are just going to build this thing out so 275 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: that we don't have Sam Donald come into a barren spot, 276 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: we don't have Zach Wilson come in where it wasn't 277 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: set up. We were going to set this thing up 278 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: for the quarterback. So if that was the case, who 279 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: would they pick. 280 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: It has to be another wide receiver, and I would 281 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: say it has to be someone that compliments Gary Wilson, 282 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: slot receiver, someone that can work the middle of the field, 283 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: or a true I would say, big boy receiver that 284 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: can play on the outside so I can move Gary 285 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: Wilson to Z. Yeah, So to me, it's either an 286 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: X or a slot receiver, but a receiver would be 287 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: in play. We'd have to be in play. 288 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: If you just look at it through that prism, because 289 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: I could say it'd say, okay, well, the tackles are good. 290 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: You could upgrade, you know, one of the guard spots. 291 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: But you probably don't want to do that picking up 292 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: there in the top ten. So what's the other position. 293 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: It's the white outs and you know, however, they would 294 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: would st those receivers vibe and I have Carnell Tait 295 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: as the as the top guy. I just don't think 296 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: with Tyson's health that you can put him in that conversation. 297 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: He's very talented, right, but Carnell Tait's my sixth player. 298 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: That's not that not the craziest thing in the world there. 299 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: So you talking about taking him at two? 300 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that would that would shock 301 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: some people. I have higher grades on the on a 302 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: couple of those edge rushers. I have Bailey and Reese, 303 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: and I have sunny styles. But I'm I'm just as 304 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: a thought exercise, what helps your quarterback, your rookie quarterback 305 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: in twenty seven If you just took that approach and 306 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: said this is all we're gonna do is we're going 307 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: to try and build a literally a fail safe here, 308 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: like you just you know, we're gonna make it so 309 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: that whoever we pick in twenty seven comes into the 310 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: best quarterback situation we could possibly have. Fore. 311 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because I'm in the middle of 312 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: finishing up this mock draft and I was looking at 313 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: their depth chart and DJ they certainly from a talent standpoint, 314 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: they're not as as you would think. Yeah, that the 315 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: team is the way that they're just they talked about, Yeah, 316 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: and then what they did on defense, they wouldn't got 317 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: a bunch of veterans that would buy in and do 318 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: that stuff. You think about the Mario Davis and uh, 319 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: they're gonna get no shot, right, they have some other 320 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: things on defense that they're doing. Offensively, I'm looking and 321 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: it's funny because you pulled up those two first run 322 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: offensive tackles they had and I'm like, man, you know, 323 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: like offensively, like they're okay, they're good. 324 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: I think they're good players. 325 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, if they can just figure it out, so yeah, 326 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: the wide receiver would be interesting. And then on defense, 327 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: I go back and forth between like, what's stout edge player? 328 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: Do they need? Right, like, what's to pick? What's the value? 329 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: Is it like a more polished guy like a David 330 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: Bailey where you know what you're getting. Because when they 331 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: traded Jermaine Johnson and kind of created that that hole 332 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: for them, I am wondering where they go if it's 333 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: not defense and were talking about building up the offense, 334 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: Which one of those guys or whatever? Because Dennis who 335 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: matches up better with Garrett Wilson? Is it Garrett Wilson 336 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: and Cardinelli take it's more dangerous? Or is it Garrett 337 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: Wilson and Mikayle Lemon? Because I have a true guy 338 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: that can work outside in the slot, and I think 339 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: Mikayle Lemon could live in the slot. Garrett Wilson, to me, 340 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: is a guy that can bounce around and play multiple spots. 341 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: Are we more dangerous doing that? Are we more dangerous 342 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: with a stationary player that is my ex that can 343 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: compliment with Gary Wilson? 344 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: Does The other thing is like, I know you got 345 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: Breece Hall, but this is you know, he's on a 346 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: tag right now, so Jeremiah Love. I mean that that 347 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: would be a nice present for a rookie quarterback coming 348 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: in twenty seven. 349 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that would be that would be another. 350 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: And the fact that this is not a it's not 351 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: a good running back draft, Well, if you wanted to, 352 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: you could probably get a nice little Hall for Breece 353 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: Hall no pun intended. 354 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah now, and it's just looks let's be honest, Like 355 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: Jeremi Love is your what ready to play a second actor? 356 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: Two? 357 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: So the value like matches up and people gave Dave 358 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: Gilliman a tough time, but like his thought's correct in 359 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: terms of if I'm talking about too, I'm talking about 360 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: a player that I can envision being a gold jacket player. 361 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: When I do look at Jeremiah Love and I look 362 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: at his game DJ, I could see him being one 363 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: of the more dominant players in the league and having 364 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: a career that is different because he is the ultimate 365 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: RB one in today's game. He can run it, he 366 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: can grind it, he can take it the distance, he 367 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: can catch it out the backfield, he has wiggle, he'll 368 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: finish with pop. Like, there's a lot to love about 369 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: his game. And I can see that in New York 370 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: even if we had both of them for this year. Man, 371 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: that's the hell of a combination to put behind He graduates. Yeah, Like, 372 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: I mean, if we're staying true to the board, there's 373 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: a lot to be said for taking Jeremiah Love the two. 374 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know, it's this interesting. I was just 375 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: trying to think about if you really put the blinders on, 376 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: and with some of these teams who have it just 377 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: looks like they're going towards twenty seven. They have three 378 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: first round picks. You'd like to think they'll have either 379 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: they're going to be poorly enough on their own to 380 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: pick one up there, they're gonna have enough ammunition and 381 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: firepower to trade out to get, you know, one of 382 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: the better quarterbacks. But that's just it was a thought exercise. 383 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: I wanted to get that out there. All let's take 384 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: a break. We'll come right back, all right, Buck, I'm 385 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: going to rip through these teams here and give you 386 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: some of their big signings here of what they accomplished, 387 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go division by division, and I 388 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: want you to just tell me. I'm gonna give you 389 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: the names, and I want you to give me one team, 390 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: like one player, one team that you like the most 391 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: of the addition for the conference or for their division. Okay, Radio, 392 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: all right, All right, Let's start with the AFC East. 393 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: The Bills get, you know, bring in DJ Moore, Bradley Chubb. 394 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 1: Some of these are trades, some of these are are 395 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: free agents. They re signed the governor and then they 396 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: re signed Dawson Knox. The Dolphins they're big Fish was 397 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: Malik Willis. The Patriots get Elijah Vera Tucker coming over 398 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: from inside the division, Romeo Dobbs, Kevin Byern. The Jets 399 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of veterans, as you mentioned, Geno Smith, Mario Davis, 400 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: Joseph Aside, Nashan Wright, and they trade for Minka Fitzpatrick. 401 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: So in that division, which player which moved you like 402 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: the most? 403 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: I would say interesting because the player is not what 404 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 2: I call a Tier one player, but I think he's 405 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: gonna help them the most, and that's Romeo Dobbs going. 406 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: To I like that one too, New England. Yeah. 407 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: The reason I like it is because he plays his 408 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: part on a wide receiver corps that is emerging but 409 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: was very very young. And even though we talk about 410 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: them needing the AJ Brown type, the true superstar, you know, 411 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: there's something about the way the Patriots have always operated 412 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: when they've just kind of been kind of able to 413 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: piece mill it. To me, he's a nice compliment to 414 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: the young guys that they have in the holster that 415 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: are ready to kind of break out and take on 416 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: bigger responsibility. 417 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. Him and Kyle Williams. You know, Kyle Wiams a 418 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: young player of rookie last year. That'll be a fun 419 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, it be a fun influence on Kyle Williams 420 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: to have someone there with a similar skill set. I 421 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: like that one a lot. Let's go to the AFC North. 422 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: The Ravens offer a lot of a lot of drama. 423 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: Ended up with Trey Hendrickson Bengals. They bring back Orlando Brown, 424 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: signed Jonathan Allen, Brian Cook safety Brown's they trade for 425 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: Titus Howard, They signed Zion Johnson, Steelers, Rico Dowdell, Jamel Dean, 426 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: and they trade for Michael Pittman. 427 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, lets Maan's there's some good ones. Uh. I 428 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: want to talk about the Pittsburgh Stillers, and the reason 429 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: why I want to talk about the Pittsburgh Stiels is 430 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 2: Michael Pittman to compliment DK Metcalf. To me, it seems 431 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: like the Pittsburgh Steelers are all then in retaining their 432 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: toughness and physical identity. Those two receivers that didn't now 433 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: have on the house, Michael Piman and DK Metcalf, they go. 434 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 2: They're gonna specialize in beating you up, not only as 435 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: past catchers, but they're going to be able to factor 436 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: in the running game. Now I worry who's throwing the ball. 437 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: I guess becues. So it's funny, right, So I'm thinking 438 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: about this, and I'm thinking about the Todd Simpson conversation, 439 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 2: right because you and I both haven't rated as a 440 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: day two guy, which in my mind he is all 441 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: day However, giving Mike McCarthy's ability to develop quarterbacks and 442 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: all the guys that he's going through from Aaron Brooks 443 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: to Aaron Rodgers, Dak Prescott or whatever, he does have 444 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: a pretty good track record of development. Is their scenario 445 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: where whether Aaron Rodgers comes back or whatever, that Todd 446 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: Simpson sits for a year, legitimately sits like Aaron Rodgers said, 447 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: could he take it over? And would they be better 448 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 2: served to take their quarterback? Now here's why I say it, 449 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 2: and I worry about the Steelers DJ. They're always going 450 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: to be good enough, but not quite bad enough to 451 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: get in the conversation to get an elite one. 452 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, so can we get I hear that, I hear 453 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: that conversation. I just think that the ghost of Kenny 454 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: Pickett will probably scare him off of that, just because 455 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: you're not talking about He just doesn't really like that 456 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: that division usually. I know, Aaron's not the biggest guy 457 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: in the world, but he's got big old hands, and 458 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's a thicker guy, and he's a 459 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: little bit taller than Tie. I think, plus he's bigger, dude. 460 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think the limiting starts there 461 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: would uh would be a little bit worrisome. And I 462 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: think they do like Will Howard there. I know they 463 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: took him later, but I mean for the limited sample 464 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: size of Ty Simpson, Like if you just watched Will 465 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: Howard's playoff games and what he did in those games, 466 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: like he'd be like, oh, yeah, that's limited run. Had 467 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: some you know, played a lot more college games obviously, 468 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: but that was a nice ending for him. So I 469 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: would be surprised if they pulled that there. Maybe in 470 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: some type of a trade back scenario, I could see it. 471 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, let's keep things moving here to 472 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: the AFC South Texans trade for David Montgomery the Colts. 473 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: They rensigned Daniel Jones and Alec Pearce Jags. Not much 474 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: action there. They resigned Monterrek Brown, Titans, Wandale Robinson, John 475 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: Franklin Myers, and Alante Taylor Man. 476 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: I would say the seismic shift Daniel Jones and Alec 477 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: Pearce doing it. Committing to Daniel Jones doing the transition 478 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 2: tag that allowed them to sign Alec Pearce to me 479 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: was interesting. And talk to the coaches there, they talked 480 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: about Alec Pearson, how they needed to find a way 481 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: to give him more opportunities. Obviously they did that because 482 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: they cleared out the wide receiver room to give him 483 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: that space as the number one receiver when they traded away. 484 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: Michael Pittman, I'm watching this dude, DJ This dude average 485 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: over twenty yards per cats for full six, like you 486 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: can't stumble into that the way that he was utilized 487 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: and then having done it back to back years, he's fascinating. 488 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: The money significant, but his presence on that offense bringing 489 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones back, seeing how they jumped out to a 490 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: seven and one start, it's interesting because I believe those 491 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: guys make the Colts extremely competitive to win the division 492 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: next year, deal them with the Jacks and the Texans 493 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: and a race that should be very tightly contested. Yeah. 494 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: I do think though the Titans are going to be better. 495 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: I mean just the sheer number of guys that they 496 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: brought in, but they upgrade some spots. Alante Taylor think 497 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: is a really good player too. So the Colts kind 498 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: of running it back with their same group. The Jags 499 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: pretty much doing the same thing. The Texans have swapped 500 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: out some pieces on their offensive line and bring in Montgomery, 501 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: but I think the most improved, and obviously they had 502 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: the most room to improve. I think Tennessee just with 503 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: the number of guys they brought in. We'll see if 504 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: they focus heavy on the offensive side after going pretty 505 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: defensive heavy and free agency. The West last one in 506 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: the AFC, the Broncos, the Jayden Wattle trade, Jaylen Wattle trade, 507 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: you get JK. Dobbins, you get the Chiefs with Kenneth 508 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: walk bring back Kelsey, the Raiders, Linderbaum, the Kobe Dean, 509 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: kway Walker, Jalen Naylor, amongst others. Chargers be otish to 510 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: come in and play center and col Strange at guard. 511 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: So inside that division, some interesting most and big moves there. 512 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, biggest move Max Grosby plus. 513 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: Things DJ. 514 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: If you told the Raiders like Max Crosby wasn't on 515 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: their team but they were able to get a player 516 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: of that guilt to go with the free agent class, 517 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: they would be ecstatic. And so in essence, they got 518 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: a better team and somehow found a way to retain 519 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: their best player that they were trying to give away, 520 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: but they brought him back and he signed on this team. 521 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're going to contend, but this team 522 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: is significantly better, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. 523 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: The system that we always talk about loving, the Kobek system, 524 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: the Shannan system, whatever variant that they bring out works 525 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: well traditionally with any type quarterback. They're well positioned to 526 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: be a more competitive team. And I can say this 527 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: and still know that they could finish fourth out of 528 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: fourth in the division. This mite being a much better 529 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: team not only on paper but between the lots. 530 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm excited to see what they look like. 531 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna look like a little bit of a different 532 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: team with some of those pieces that they brought in. 533 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: Definitely some upgrades there. Let's get to the NFC Cowboys, 534 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: NFC East franchise. Pickens, Jamonte Williams comes back, Giants, Isaiah Likely, 535 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, Eagles, Jordan Davis signs an extension, they signed 536 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: Tarik Woollen, they resigned Dallas Goddard the Commanders. They give 537 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: Larmie Tuns an extension, and they resigned Marcus Marioda. M Uh, 538 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: you know tough, I'll go likely. I'm gonna go likely 539 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: to mine. I just think likely with a young quarterback 540 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: makes sense. 541 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 2: With Jackson Dark, I mean yeah, I mean if you're 542 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: gonna go Baltimore North, Yeah, like yeah, I mean him too. 543 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: I mean that usually helps when you're talking about that. 544 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: Well that that certainly else because it will unlock them. 545 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 2: Their offense has a chance to get it going. I 546 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: still believe they need to attack their right tackle spot. 547 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 2: Even though they brought the veteran back. To me, you 548 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: still want to make sure that that front line can dominate. 549 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: When I look at the Dallas Cowboys, I'm intrigued by 550 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: what they've done on defense. Richard Gary is interesting to 551 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: put them alongside his former teammate Kenny Clark, you have 552 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 2: Quinn Williams. You're trying to figure out what you're gonna 553 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: do with this linebacker corps and the secondary. But some 554 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: of the moves that they've made and bringing in veterans 555 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: at those spots help them. It's just a matter of 556 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: can they cap it off with a really good draft class. 557 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: But defensively they should be able to get close to 558 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: the middle of the pack, and then the Illers is 559 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: on the offense to be able to do what they've 560 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: done the last few years. Put points on the. 561 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: Board, no doubt. Let's scoot along to the NFC North Bears. 562 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: Devin Bush comes in, linebacker Kobe Bryant, safety Garrett Bradbury, 563 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: the center, Lions Brian Pacheco. Packers trade for zey Er Franklin. 564 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: The Vikings Kyler Murray Aaron Jones, I mean, Kyler Murray's 565 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: a head headliner there, man. 566 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: Easy easy, easy, Yeah, He's a headliner. He's everything. And uh, 567 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: knowing Koc well you know him particularly well, I'm man, 568 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: I'm just he would go way back just thinking about 569 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: what he can do with a player of that kind 570 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: of talent. Caller Murray is extraordinary. And when he's locked 571 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: in and playing man, He's played at a level where 572 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: he's been a Pro Bowl player. He has been a 573 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: player that can really put the team on his back. 574 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: Now he has all the pieces around him to really 575 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: showcase his talents as a dynamic dual threat. I am 576 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: just curious, how is koc going to find a way 577 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: to continue to unlock these players with these scripted winners. 578 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: How can he do it while also playing to caller 579 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: Murray strengths as a pack as a passer. Watching that 580 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: experimentation process over the course of offseason workouts, training camp, 581 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: that's a big part of success. That will it won't 582 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: happen in Minnesota. 583 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: I'd be curious to see how expansive he gets with 584 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: the playbook. Like I'm just I'm just imagining in my head, 585 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: like you get short yardage and you've got Justin Jefferson 586 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: or Addison in orbit motion, and we're gonna run speed 587 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: option with Kyler Murray with flip flipping the ball out 588 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: to one of those two guys. 589 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: So many different places. He should be so much better 590 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: coming off to the injury two years remove from it. 591 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: Just confidence. And I'll say this because he's a competitor. 592 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: I just know you've poked the bear a little bit 593 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: when you've outright cut him. Yeah, this would be the 594 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: best version that we see of him, because if we 595 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: don't see that, he will play much longer in the league. 596 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: I think this would be the version, the motivated. I'm 597 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: gonna show you version, the best version of Caler Murray 598 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: that we'll ever see. 599 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. NFC South, not much 600 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: action here, but you've got TUA and then they franchise 601 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts with the Falcons and the Panthers the big Fish. 602 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: They reeled in Jalen Phillips. So those are the two 603 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: big moves in that division. 604 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: Uh well, Jaylen Phillips and Devin Lloyd. They're interested in 605 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: the defense needs to get better and they needed to 606 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: have some players that could compliment what they have and 607 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: Derrick Brown they do that. You have Joe Horn on 608 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: the outside. They are Look, they didn't finish with a 609 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: renning record, but they wanted a division. They got some 610 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: playoff experience. They have a sense and a smell of 611 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: what it's like to be a playoff team. Now they've 612 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: added better players. You like to think that they're. 613 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: On the rise YEP one that I didn't mention David 614 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: Edwards with the Saints. I liked help that offense live there. 615 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: I thought that was a good one. All right, let's 616 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: finish up the last couple. Actually, sorry, that was in 617 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: the I didn't even mention the other players here. That 618 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: was etn with the Saints. That was a big one 619 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: to go along with David Edwards and the Bucks re 620 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: signing Kadott and alex Anzelongis. I didn't mean to shut 621 00:30:54,360 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: those teams out there. NFC West Cardinals, Tyler Algier, Isaac Simalo. 622 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: So interesting with those two editions. The Rams trade for 623 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie and signed Jalen Watson, the two corners from 624 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: Kansas City. The Niners signed Mike Evans, and the Seahawks 625 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: they re signed Rashid Shaheed and Josh Job. 626 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: Rashis Shahet coming back. That was not one that we thought. 627 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: We thought he was a rental, almost like those baseball 628 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: guys get armed. I thought he would be a raider. 629 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: I really didn't. 630 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then go but DJ getting him. It's funny 631 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: because going all the way back, I remember when they 632 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: got Percy Harvin years ago and just how much they 633 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: loved having him, but they could never fully tap into 634 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: everything that he brings. She to me strikes me as 635 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: being similar, but difference similar in terms of man his speed, 636 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: his big play potential, shows up, different in the fact 637 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: that it might be a little easier to create a 638 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: role for him where he can be a steady contributor. 639 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: On top of JSN, who as the show has been 640 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: Jet four year, one hundred and sixty eight. Good for him, 641 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: contract extension. Good gracious, it's talk about boring to some 642 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: forty million dollars. Why how about that wide out? Yeah? So, yeah, 643 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: she eat on one side being able to compliment JSN. 644 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: They can run the football. They will be able to 645 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: run the football. I'm sure they get a running back. Yeah. 646 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: I love she being able to. 647 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: Stay Yeah no, JSN, how about that? Congratulations to him? Man? 648 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: All right, back, That was a fun tour around the divisions, 649 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 1: and we'll see how this all impacts the draft as 650 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: we go forward. Any hell you want to add before 651 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: we get out of here. 652 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: No, lots of fun. Everyone's making moves, and we know, 653 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 2: as much as we talk about these moves, everything changes 654 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: once we. 655 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: Get to the draft. Yeah, that's right around the corner, 656 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: so more draft talk. Bucky's got a mock draft coming out. 657 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: We'll discuss that on the next one. We'll see it 658 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: right here on movie sticks.