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Speaker 5: Thank you, see Geek, Thank you all right, smooth? Yes,
Speaker 5: do you believe in moral victories? This is a tricky question, jinks.
Speaker 5: Can I take a more victory to the casino.
Speaker 4: And cash it out? Do they cash out more victories
Speaker 4: or only victories and losses? Like hey I had twenty
Speaker 4: now you got twenty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah I was right there.
Speaker 2: No, no, no no. At the end of the day,
Speaker 2: as a player, we think we let one go. Yea.
Speaker 4: We are totally convinced we were the better team that
Speaker 4: they We should have beat them that day.
Speaker 2: We don't.
Speaker 4: I think the more victories are more for parents, like
Speaker 4: when you when your child does something like that you
Speaker 4: know what, hey, Dad, I made a d ah More
Speaker 4: victory because there used to be an F one right
Speaker 4: So at the end of the.
Speaker 2: Day, they take it.
Speaker 4: The fan base says, you know what, if Philly is
Speaker 4: the measurement stick, not that far away because we've seen
Speaker 4: us go blow for blow with Goliath yesterday. And that's
Speaker 4: what I do love about this team.
Speaker 2: No quit on this team.
Speaker 4: This d line don't care about Philly having a number
Speaker 4: one offensive line in football.
Speaker 2: They going head to head with them.
Speaker 4: So me, what I took from the game was we're
Speaker 4: not that far away from being one of a true
Speaker 4: true contender and as this team grow, so I can't
Speaker 4: wait to see them again in the future to see
Speaker 4: how that game goes.
Speaker 1: In the locker room, yeah, I would imagine. And you
Speaker 1: saw it on Ron Rivera's face. He was so it's pissed,
Speaker 1: yes there, And I don't believe all the players well
Speaker 1: because you want to see improvement. We saw improvement, but
Speaker 1: as players, as coaches like you were saying, it's listen,
Speaker 1: we had these we got these guys.
Speaker 4: You know what, I have to just just work up
Speaker 4: my inner Dennis Green for this one. We let them
Speaker 4: off the hook. We let them off the hook. They
Speaker 4: are who we thought they were. Like that's when you know, like,
Speaker 4: all right, everybody's saying it's the cream of the crop,
Speaker 4: this the top of the NFL.
Speaker 2: We were better than them.
Speaker 4: And that's why I say, I'm sure that locker room
Speaker 4: was just furious yesterday because of the lost and we
Speaker 4: go through these emotions up and downs. But the thing
Speaker 4: about it, as a pro athlete, you ain't got like
Speaker 4: twenty four hours to process that emotion and throw it
Speaker 4: to the side.
Speaker 2: That's the professional side of you. You have to throw it
Speaker 2: to the side. Good, I bad. You can only celebrate
Speaker 2: so long, could only be in the dump so long.
Speaker 2: Then you turn that page.
Speaker 1: That come back at the end of the fourth quarter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no time out. These guys are going right down the field.
Speaker 1: They used every second of it, every second of it
Speaker 1: it took. And boy, it's just it's just building the
Speaker 1: story in the lure of that young Arab with Sam Howe,
Speaker 1: because he's emotionalless.
Speaker 2: I loved that about Like, at no point is he
Speaker 2: doing that.
Speaker 4: I don't even think I have seen Sam smile on
Speaker 4: the sideline even we be up twenty he just be
Speaker 4: over that just stone face, we're down twenty just I
Speaker 4: love that that's that thing you want because Jayleen Hurst
Speaker 4: is the same way. I don't think I ever seen
Speaker 4: Jaylor Hurst smile. That tells you that it's all about
Speaker 4: focus with them. And I loved that. And you, like
Speaker 4: you said, fearless on that laser drivet. Like for a
Speaker 4: long time we would watch games and one day we
Speaker 4: were gonna come back, and it was always this iffy feeling.
Speaker 2: I felt like we was never out of the game.
Speaker 4: Like I feel like, if he got thirty seconds, we
Speaker 4: still have a chance to score. I was saying it,
Speaker 4: we're about to go into O T and he took
Speaker 4: us into OT. I think we got something with the
Speaker 4: same hile character.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you something.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot written about him maybe staying in
Speaker 1: the pocket too long. Sometimes the old line has a
Speaker 1: lot to do with Saxon birth.
Speaker 2: And pains immediately though.
Speaker 1: He came out firing the ball quick Yeah, getting rid
Speaker 1: of the ball quickly and not continue throughout the entire game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's just where's he throwing the ball? Like
Speaker 4: he throwing passes that only somebody with the arm talent
Speaker 4: he has can throw that ball into these small wonders
Speaker 4: hitting Logan Thomas and Logan Thumas just continues to get
Speaker 4: just beat up.
Speaker 2: And push people down like he just he just he
Speaker 2: makes the catch it. And Sam is one of the people.
Speaker 4: He's letting them know if you even a crack an
Speaker 4: inch open, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Try to fit it in there.
Speaker 4: And if players know that, they're more prone to go
Speaker 4: one hundred miles per hour. And just I think with
Speaker 4: Terry's attitude, I think with the wire receivers not being devas,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, demand in the ball, I
Speaker 4: think that gives him time to grow with trial and error.
Speaker 4: And I think that's what people are not really understanding.
Speaker 4: Sam is ahead of the curve. Oh yeah, He's like
Speaker 4: a ten, twelve, thirteenth and most of the stats in
Speaker 4: the league right now for him to be played with
Speaker 4: to be five games, Oh he is.
Speaker 2: He's way ahead of the curve.
Speaker 1: One thing I love to was the balance yesterday. If
Speaker 1: Slim was Sam wasn't slinging or around. Yeah, b robbed physical.
Speaker 4: A DB's nightmare, like he punishes DB's.
Speaker 2: He literally is that guy that.
Speaker 4: You're tackling him in the first quarter, you almost tackle
Speaker 4: him in the second. By the third quarter, he's running
Speaker 4: through these arm tackles. And he's running through these arm tackles,
Speaker 4: and guess what. By the fourth quarter, defensive backs are
Speaker 4: making business decisions. They're seeing like, you know, can I
Speaker 4: should I stick my neck in it? Like he makes
Speaker 4: you think. And he always fall forward like he might
Speaker 4: get contacted at the thirty by trying to play over
Speaker 4: here at the thirty three yard line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's a running back.
Speaker 4: He reminds me of a more powerful Arian Foster. Okay,
Speaker 4: with the bodybill being able to catch the ball, runs upright,
Speaker 4: it still gets low pad level when it's time to
Speaker 4: make contact.
Speaker 3: But you've gone for two there, then, huh, that's a
Speaker 3: tough one.
Speaker 4: In hindsight, it's easy for us night couch coaching over here.
Speaker 2: It's easy for us to do it. But this is what.
Speaker 4: I'd have been thinking on the road Philadelphia. It's hard
Speaker 4: to beat them for fourth quarters. We didn't damn Shore,
Speaker 4: gonna be hard to beat them for five. My guy's
Speaker 4: tired then gave me all they got.
Speaker 2: I would have been like, I think I need to
Speaker 2: go for two, like we.
Speaker 4: Gotta end it now, because I just don't think we
Speaker 4: can beat them in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: I mean in the fifth quarter.
Speaker 4: Now, if we was at FedEx Field, oh yeah, we're
Speaker 4: going to the five quarter.
Speaker 2: Listen, is how land on their land?
Speaker 4: It's like and then I feel like the offense had
Speaker 4: the momentum at that time.
Speaker 2: We just went, we just go.
Speaker 4: It's like, it ain't nothing we can't do right now.
Speaker 4: So I would have just rolled there. But I understand
Speaker 4: what coach is saying, let's go to the fifth quarter
Speaker 4: lest let's.
Speaker 2: Made a better team wins.
Speaker 4: But if it was up to coach smooth, coach showtime,
Speaker 4: if it was up to time, if it was up
Speaker 4: to coach showtime, I would have been like, you know what, Sam,
Speaker 4: take us home and I would have gave him a
Speaker 4: run past option RPO on it and whatever happens happened.
Speaker 4: But you know, them two yards and cloud of us
Speaker 4: it's hard to get sometimes, especially with the deepest line stack,
Speaker 4: Like there, yeah, you know what, I'm going for two
Speaker 4: right there, I'm gonna get it over with. But then
Speaker 4: they're gonna throw coach under the bus, say, you know what,
Speaker 4: coach otime, y'all ain't get to two. Why would you
Speaker 4: go for two? Why won't you go to overtime? So
Speaker 4: it's damned if you do, damned if you Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, one thing I thought was interesting watching this game
Speaker 1: develop is that we always focus on the players in
Speaker 1: the new scheme EB scheme, but also the coach has
Speaker 1: to learn what he has throughout the season. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I feel like we always focus on the players, and
Speaker 1: I get that, but also EB is kind of figuring out,
Speaker 1: all right, here's what I have here now that I
Speaker 1: have sort of a sample side and we're seeing him adjust.
Speaker 4: Well, think about it, is we ain't giving him the
Speaker 4: great period of the honeymoon period you come in.
Speaker 2: This office is ahead of schedule.
Speaker 4: Yes, listen, we can look all around the league and
Speaker 4: see what new core natives and new head coaches and
Speaker 4: then how those offenses are progression.
Speaker 2: They're not progressing because they gonna.
Speaker 4: Be in a rut for a while until you find
Speaker 4: out what you just said, who am I go to
Speaker 4: people in certain circumstances.
Speaker 2: That's the thing about football. It's one of these things
Speaker 2: where it's all about situational football.
Speaker 4: You want to know who's my best third down person,
Speaker 4: who gonna get me the first downs? Who is my
Speaker 4: best red zone target? Who is the guy that I
Speaker 4: could just throw it out there in the field. He
Speaker 4: can make two three people miss to identify us. And
Speaker 4: you can only identify people by going to war with them,
Speaker 4: meaning we have to do some battles before I know
Speaker 4: where you at and what you can do and what
Speaker 4: you cannot do.
Speaker 1: See, that's exactly why I asked you that, because there
Speaker 1: are some players who and I wonder, I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: experienced this where yeah, you get to know them their
Speaker 1: training camp, but some guys are different.
Speaker 2: Their gamers, their game exact.
Speaker 4: Some guys practice so bad you'd be like, how's this
Speaker 4: dude in the NFL? Then you turn them lights on,
Speaker 4: and now you understand who this dude is and why
Speaker 4: he's that dude, and you just say, coach, the enemy's
Speaker 4: going through trialing error with all of the offensive players,
Speaker 4: not some of them. Are the only guys that he
Speaker 4: actually knows is Pringle and whoever else he brought wildly,
Speaker 4: maybe that he brought from Kansas City with him, but
Speaker 4: everybody else's trialing error. I'm sure what he learned against
Speaker 4: Philly is I need to get Terry mclaughin the ball
Speaker 4: more and more. Listen, and I was just so blown
Speaker 4: away by the call at the end of the game
Speaker 4: because Sam put that ball right there where it's supposed
Speaker 4: to be, and then Terry makes this play and I'm
Speaker 4: watching the replay and I'm seeing his foot laying on
Speaker 4: the arm.
Speaker 2: The arm supposed to be part of the field.
Speaker 4: If his foot is on his arm, it's impossible for
Speaker 4: his foot to be on the white line.
Speaker 3: We were talking about that.
Speaker 4: His foot is still clearly in downs bounds in play.
Speaker 2: Now here go to thing though, jinks what was the
Speaker 2: call on the field?
Speaker 4: Because if they called it a complete pass on the field,
Speaker 4: it wasn't gonna be enough evidence to overturn it. But
Speaker 4: it was college in completely plays on the field, not
Speaker 4: enough evidenced OVERTURNAI.
Speaker 2: So whatever the first initial car.
Speaker 3: Was, killer, it was the call.
Speaker 2: But that's the one that I felt like, if we
Speaker 2: get that play within a win this game.
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Speaker 4: Listen, I want to spend that wheel for my grandmama
Speaker 4: because my grandmama.
Speaker 2: Watched it religiously. Oh yeah, I want to spend that wheel.
Speaker 1: Let's spend the wheel on the commanders and what we
Speaker 1: want to talk the topic.
Speaker 3: Whill here and we land on the defense.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's start with the D line. Yes,
Speaker 1: because it feels like I don't want to put words
Speaker 1: into your mouth. But those guys up front, we know
Speaker 1: how talented they are. It feels like they've got to
Speaker 1: do a little bit better job of getting pressure at
Speaker 1: least containing at the first level.
Speaker 4: They rush independently right now, they rush as independent contractors.
Speaker 4: When they have to rush as an organism, as one organism,
Speaker 4: they have to learn how to play off of each other.
Speaker 4: As good as they are, it takes a little teamwork.
Speaker 4: See like right now they are in new addition, but
Speaker 4: Bobby Brown wants out. So they like they're getting along
Speaker 4: and the performances work, but they know it can be
Speaker 4: a lot better once they start to play as their organism.
Speaker 2: They like I said, they have.
Speaker 4: The talent to be not the reason we're in games,
Speaker 4: but the reason we win them.
Speaker 2: I've watched defenses dictate winning.
Speaker 4: I've seen the Ravens defense, I've seen Pittsburgh's defenses of
Speaker 4: the past. They have that talent, But I think it
Speaker 4: has to be everything has to be in lockstep, players, coaching,
Speaker 4: what are we running and just just running fast? So
Speaker 4: I think they need to shrink the playbook and just
Speaker 4: do whatever they do great, over and over and over.
Speaker 4: Because when I watched the Legions Doom, they ran cover three.
Speaker 4: They was known for cover three. When I watched Pittsburgh
Speaker 4: they were known for three to four. Then they're gonna
Speaker 4: run these linebackers at you. Like, once you known for
Speaker 4: what you do great, then teams have to they have
Speaker 4: to plan for that. But if you look at our offense,
Speaker 4: I mean our defense right now, I say, what's our identity?
Speaker 2: What is it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: What do we take away automatically? Like some teams, when
Speaker 4: you talk about Philadelphia, you can't run on them.
Speaker 2: Make you want to mention.
Speaker 4: This, You gotta pass the ball like so with us,
Speaker 4: it's like, damn, there's a lot of talent over here.
Speaker 4: But we can run on them sometimes sometimes yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: sometime we can pass on them sometimes, Like so we
Speaker 4: have to get that identity.
Speaker 2: Who are we?
Speaker 4: We are we gonna win trench warfare, Yep, We're gonna
Speaker 4: be the ones that dictate tempo by the way we
Speaker 4: rush the passers.
Speaker 2: So it's gotta be something you.
Speaker 1: Made a point earlier with Chad forgotten, which is if
Speaker 1: you look at the lines, particularly the defensive lines preached
Speaker 1: him in this game, it's like Georgia versus Bama, the
Speaker 1: whole era.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole era.
Speaker 4: We got on Washington side, we got ten years of
Speaker 4: their best defensive linemen while he was winning national championships,
Speaker 4: Nick saving Golden years. We got to John Allens, the
Speaker 4: d rum Pains, the Fabian We got those dudes. Well,
Speaker 4: Philly tooks the other approach and they went got Georgia's
Speaker 4: finest right, So what the whole era of Georgia football
Speaker 4: they have in that defensive line room. They got a
Speaker 4: dB and Keilo Ringo, and they got Nikobe Dean at
Speaker 4: the middle linebacker. They got Georgia dudes all over the field.
Speaker 4: Don't forget about DeAndre Swift, the running back. So at
Speaker 4: the day, it's Georgia's best against Alabama's best, and I
Speaker 4: don't think nobody ever says anything about it, like and
Speaker 4: this thing about it. But we are hybrid where they're
Speaker 4: mostly Georgia, we're Alabama in Ohio States. Oh yeah, finest
Speaker 4: with Chase Young, Terry McLain, Curtis Samuel. So it's one
Speaker 4: of the things where when we go back and we
Speaker 4: look back five ten years from now, I think we'll
Speaker 4: see the matchups and why we can play that that
Speaker 4: type of high level ball.
Speaker 3: Emanuel Forbes.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's my dude. Okay that listen.
Speaker 3: He got blessed.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen.
Speaker 4: When you play that defensive back position, sometimes you get
Speaker 4: tested to get blessed and it happened, and you can
Speaker 4: only learn this is one of them jobs you can
Speaker 4: only learn through trial and error. Almosis. You have to
Speaker 4: be there in it to do it. What he learned
Speaker 4: yesterday was I'm faster than this dude, I'm taller than
Speaker 4: this dude, I'm longer than this dude, but I cannot
Speaker 4: stop him because sometimes it ain't about speed, it ain't
Speaker 4: about athletic ability. It's about the mental warfare of the game.
Speaker 4: He realized yesterday that technique ain't gonna be enough. Talent
Speaker 4: won't be enough. I have to learn how to individually
Speaker 4: check all of these dudes. When I played against Pasco Burst,
Speaker 4: I played basketball, not football. He's six ' six hounds.
Speaker 4: He's gonna try to jump ball me. I'm out of
Speaker 4: the mine of football. I'm gonna play basketball too. He
Speaker 4: literally six 'y four but runs like he's five ten. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I can't let him touch the ball. I gotta play
Speaker 4: keep away early. He's gonna have He's gonna learn how
Speaker 4: to plan against each and every wide receiver. And him
Speaker 4: and AJ Brown got this history.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that I saw him from AJ Brown.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't know if I would
Speaker 1: be doing that. But they go way away back.
Speaker 4: First of all, Stuckville is where Missippi State at Stuckville
Speaker 4: is where AJ Brown is from.
Speaker 2: He went to Stockville High School.
Speaker 4: He turned his back on us and with the Old
Speaker 4: Miseries Like him and DJ Metcalf went to Old Miseries.
Speaker 4: My guy went to Missisippi State and they used to
Speaker 4: work out in the summer time. So they've been had
Speaker 4: this rivalry brewing, and AJ just been waiting a bullet
Speaker 4: the kid since since they've been going there in college.
Speaker 2: So I get I get a veteran. AJ.
Speaker 4: You won the first battle, but you ain't won the war.
Speaker 4: And this war gonna go on for years with these two.
Speaker 4: And what he learned yesterday is I got to find
Speaker 4: a better way to get it done with a guy
Speaker 4: like AJ Brown, And I cannot let the emotions. I
Speaker 4: think the emotions got the best of a manual force
Speaker 4: when you need to channel that emotion. And I'm gonna
Speaker 4: have to give him a I'm might to give him
Speaker 4: a class in trash talk. I'm about to show him
Speaker 4: how to really because with a guy like AJ Brown,
Speaker 4: he is emotional combustible. I can't make him combust like
Speaker 4: I couldn't do it with ridg Wayne because it just
Speaker 4: look at me.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't say nothing like.
Speaker 4: But a guy like AJ Brown, he wants to end
Speaker 4: ententangle the fight, which he'll bring the fight with you.
Speaker 4: So these are the things that the MANU were gonna learn.
Speaker 4: But listen, it's part of being a defensive back. The
Speaker 4: only defensive back that never gave up a touchdown and
Speaker 4: never got burned is the one that never plays.
Speaker 1: So were their players offensive players, and you went up
Speaker 1: against and they got better.
Speaker 3: Like the more they talked Yester, they.
Speaker 4: Got Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, They're more like I'm one
Speaker 4: of them people. You ever watch me play, I am
Speaker 4: emotionally connected to the game. You don't have to ask
Speaker 4: me how my feeling. All you have to do is
Speaker 4: watch the game. I play with my emotions on my sleeve.
Speaker 2: And players that do.
Speaker 4: That, we are momentum players. Like the one thing I
Speaker 4: was addicted to. I could not get enough of hearing
Speaker 4: my name being called because you know what.
Speaker 2: They used to do, smooth, and what I would do.
Speaker 4: You got to realize this is eighty thousand people and
Speaker 4: you could feel the ground just shaking under your feet.
Speaker 4: That's and it's just you Fork, It's just you Fork,
Speaker 4: and that I make a player, and I just want
Speaker 4: it more and I just want to hear more, and
Speaker 4: I just want to hear more.
Speaker 2: So you asked me what I missed jinks about football?
Speaker 2: Just smooth.
Speaker 4: Now when I walk in the kitchen and I'm like
Speaker 4: scrammling there for breakfast, my kids be like smooth. That's
Speaker 4: where I get it from. Now. But listen, it's different.
Speaker 4: So when you get these players that emotionally attach. It's
Speaker 4: something that makes them goal. It's something that they just
Speaker 4: and like I said, once they start to get it,
Speaker 4: they want more and more and more of it. So
Speaker 4: that's what I used to like to play the run
Speaker 4: game because when I make a attack in the backfield,
Speaker 4: they're still doing it like it's just how much are you?
Speaker 2: How much do you love the game?
Speaker 4: And that's why I love with foro is being mad
Speaker 4: on the sideline tells me he's emotionally attached to the
Speaker 4: game and.
Speaker 3: He's only gonna get back. And there were a couple
Speaker 3: of times, I mean he was even there. It was
Speaker 3: very cool.
Speaker 2: It was darre and thet's just tell you when the
Speaker 2: day is going bad for.
Speaker 4: You, even when you do all the right things, it
Speaker 4: still don't work out for you. All of us and
Speaker 4: had those days. So keep your head up, brother, don't
Speaker 4: worry about it. It's gonna be all right.
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Speaker 3: You know what we learned?
Speaker 1: Yeah on Sunday what we learn don't run off the bills, listen.
Speaker 3: I know Miami was the eight team last week.
Speaker 1: They dropped seventy on a bad bronze go see, and
Speaker 1: we suddenly just forgot that Buffalo player and has been
Speaker 1: playing great football for all long.
Speaker 4: That's why, that's why the book Who when they gave
Speaker 4: us doesn't feel too bad. At the end of the day,
Speaker 4: we forget sometime you so numb, you know how we
Speaker 4: was in the Jordan area.
Speaker 2: We just like Jordan gonna win Jordan. Like we got so.
Speaker 4: Numb to great talents. I think we got none to
Speaker 4: Josh Ally to the point where it was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: Miami is the new hot salt of the today. But
Speaker 4: I keep telling people about when it comes to games
Speaker 4: in the division, I was gonna says, it's brother against brother.
Speaker 4: Your brother knows every move. Jinks he didn't put you
Speaker 4: in the headlock.
Speaker 2: You know, you like to weezer your way out of
Speaker 2: their headlock, and you'd like to pick You like to
Speaker 2: get him from the back, and you like to stamm them.
Speaker 4: He knows your screents, he knows your weaknesses. And Buffalo
Speaker 4: showed them y'all at the top. Yet y'all still got
Speaker 4: to come through us. Like and people don't understand sports
Speaker 4: is the longest running reality show of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, eight straight wins for the Bills in Buffalo against
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and I want you to expend a little
Speaker 1: bit on division games, because before this game took place
Speaker 1: in Philly and I heard all the Eagles gonna roll
Speaker 1: the Commanders, I'm like, hey, I was like, this is
Speaker 1: a division games the NFL.
Speaker 3: YEP, that's easy to say.
Speaker 2: That's not usually how we identify with each other.
Speaker 4: We play each other so much that it doesn't matter
Speaker 4: who's playing, what the records are, it just doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Showed me the playing field. I get a team that's
Speaker 4: playing at home three points, but that's it. Like think
Speaker 4: about it is slave knows he doesn't match up well
Speaker 4: against Terry Mclawin. He's playing them, but guess what, he
Speaker 4: knows everything about him. Like that offensive line that everybody's
Speaker 4: scared of in the NFL, John Allen and drum Payin
Speaker 4: not scared of that offense line. They love playing them.
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, they say it all the time. They
Speaker 4: are the measuring stick, let's measure. So it's one of
Speaker 4: them things where you're so intertwined with each other. And
Speaker 4: even when we get traded, we usually get traded inside
Speaker 4: of the division because they have watched you play so much,
Speaker 4: they know you.
Speaker 2: They don't even need to like scout you.
Speaker 4: They know you so much, so it's more of intimacy,
Speaker 4: like the sec you ain't gotta.
Speaker 2: Tell me what's going on that old mission.
Speaker 4: I already know, right, I already know everybody recruit, I
Speaker 4: know everything, and I think that knowledge of each other
Speaker 4: makes it hard. That's when you do play a foreign
Speaker 4: team like the Buffalo Bills, the matchup feels odd. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: so I think that's the difference of it.
Speaker 3: Elsewhere in the f S.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow does not look like himself and I'm sure
Speaker 1: you saw that sign about that's Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you have less time to get open?
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm always I'm always open, and he goes,
Speaker 1: I'm always f and open, like always.
Speaker 4: When he gets out of his car in the parking lot,
Speaker 4: he's open, right, Like when he get out of his CAUs.
Speaker 4: She be like, throw it to me, I'm open, listen,
Speaker 4: I don't care. When he let he wake up in
Speaker 4: the morning, he opened like he one of those guys.
Speaker 2: But something's wrong with Joe. Joe is hurt. He's not
Speaker 2: and Jamar.
Speaker 4: Chase said it at the beginning of the year, he
Speaker 4: should not be playing the first five game Now, when
Speaker 4: your receivers say that about your quarterback, why don't the
Speaker 4: people in the medical area know, listen to y'all, Like, no,
Speaker 4: like's they sending him back more and more he plays.
Speaker 4: They need to sit in sooner than later because this
Speaker 4: this season is going down to drain right now when it.
Speaker 2: Comes to that.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing about players. You have to protect
Speaker 4: us from myself.
Speaker 3: Like it's to us that you're always gonna want to play.
Speaker 4: We always gonna want to play, no matter what. If
Speaker 4: we can limp out there, we can play. Like so,
Speaker 4: I think the great medical staffs in this league protect
Speaker 4: us from ourself. And I think that's a whole another
Speaker 4: level of organizational health.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know it's bad.
Speaker 1: He played the Titans. Derreck Henry has more touchdown passes
Speaker 1: than you do.
Speaker 4: First of all, King Henry, it's a nightmare, all right. Listen,
Speaker 4: Just Brandon Jacobs faster Brandon Jacobs. Like I have watched
Speaker 4: this dude still from I watched the other day. He's
Speaker 4: still from the linebacker d line and a running back
Speaker 4: on the same play. I seen the referee come over there.
Speaker 4: He's still having him. He's still having the coach and
Speaker 4: the trainer on his way to a touch. That's a
Speaker 4: big old man, Jenx. Like sometime I think watching on
Speaker 4: the TV doesn't.
Speaker 2: Do justice for the dudes. These those are huge, man, Listen,
Speaker 2: they are huge.
Speaker 1: I remember years ago when while I worked in Texas
Speaker 1: for a long time, and I was covering the Spurs
Speaker 1: and I was on the court and Shack.
Speaker 3: Walked by because the Lakers in town.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you think you know.
Speaker 3: How big they are. You don't, but when you see it,
Speaker 3: and I remember him walking.
Speaker 1: By and being like, that is the biggest human being,
Speaker 1: yes ever seen in my life.
Speaker 3: And football players can be the same way.
Speaker 2: They are the same way.
Speaker 4: Darren Gardner, the big d tackle, was so big his
Speaker 4: hands it took two of my hands to equal one
Speaker 4: to hell, just how big his hands was.
Speaker 2: And we traded for him min seasoning. He took my house.
Speaker 4: Jinks he took my house. He knocked on the door.
Speaker 4: We traded for him, and I think it was a Monday.
Speaker 4: I talked to him in the locker room. I talked
Speaker 4: to everybody, Jim. I think he took it too friendly.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: So then he like, wait he came, no, listen, I
Speaker 4: go home, I do my after practice. Rich who I'm
Speaker 4: sitting on the cap. I hear the dopebell ring. I'm like,
Speaker 4: ain't nobodys to be coming over him?
Speaker 2: Might be the male man?
Speaker 3: What's the male I come to the door.
Speaker 2: It's damn gardener. Huge, got a bag on his shoulder
Speaker 2: and everything. He don't speak or nothing. He just walks in.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, Okay, what you cooking tonight?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 4: Whatever you want me to cook? So I basically turned
Speaker 4: to his maid his cook. I'm scaring in my own house.
Speaker 4: It got to the point that I had to come
Speaker 4: talk to Marvil Ltis.
Speaker 2: He was my defense.
Speaker 4: Marvin, you got to come get him out of my house.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 4: I know he just got three sacks. He cannot live
Speaker 4: with me. I cannot be dictated in this way. All right,
Speaker 4: got him out of my house.
Speaker 2: But we was cool. But he took my house for
Speaker 2: like three four weeks.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, Listen.
Speaker 2: I didn't have I just wondered, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: I won't strong enough, jinks, But nothing I can do
Speaker 4: to get him out of there. Like listen, I wake
Speaker 4: him up in the morning, like, yeah.
Speaker 2: You want breatherast Yeah, I want brothers. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: in there scrambling there. Whatever you want there, I got you.
Speaker 1: Before we get into bears, commanders, our little food. I
Speaker 1: let you go off because I have never met anyone
Speaker 1: who hates pumpkin as much as you. Because it's that time,
Speaker 1: it's October.
Speaker 3: Look at look at your face.
Speaker 4: I despise it, right, listen, Pumpkin is the most useless
Speaker 4: vegetable of all time. My mama always told me, don't
Speaker 4: you play with your food boy? But you then you
Speaker 4: let me turn around and cut faces into pumpkins.
Speaker 2: All right, now you think about it. We do all
Speaker 2: that growing, put all their.
Speaker 4: Water into this plant because I'm a big environmentalist. Yeah,
Speaker 4: only this set it on the porch.
Speaker 2: Doing Thanksgiving, all right.
Speaker 4: We do this when this time of year comes and
Speaker 4: we just all of a sudden, the pumpkins just lifts
Speaker 4: it to the forefront. I can't walk into Dunkin Donuts
Speaker 4: without them sprinkling pumpkins on everything. I can't walk into
Speaker 4: a seventy leven without them. You want a pumpkin spice
Speaker 4: Coca colar?
Speaker 2: No, I don't like listen.
Speaker 4: I can't even go to the steakhouse. They're like, yeah, surfing, turfing,
Speaker 4: do have pumpkin?
Speaker 2: Like, No, you don't listen to me. It's only prevalent
Speaker 2: for like sixty days.
Speaker 4: Yes, it starts in October and it leads around Christmas
Speaker 4: where this pumpkin is just idolized and it's just so useless.
Speaker 4: I have never said, you know what, I'm going to
Speaker 4: the grocer store anybody needs something back and then somebody
Speaker 4: be like, yeah, dad, pray some pumpkin.
Speaker 2: I feel like, eat pumpkin tonight.
Speaker 4: It just what what about you? Am I the only
Speaker 4: one that thinks it's overrated?
Speaker 1: I will have a couple like you know in October,
Speaker 1: I'll do like a pumpkin spice like that one or two.
Speaker 3: I love pumpkin pie.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 4: That's a sin. First of sweet potato pie is the
Speaker 4: only thing you posted.
Speaker 2: Listen, it doesn't shock me that you like pumpkin pie.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying this.
Speaker 3: You know it's nasty, it's not sweet.
Speaker 2: It's pumpkin pie.
Speaker 3: Okay, can you to preach?
Speaker 4: No? No, no, I just I'm asking tomatoes, yes, vegetable
Speaker 4: of fruit.
Speaker 3: I think technically fruit?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: They are fruit?
Speaker 4: So does that make ketch up a smoothie?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: I blew your mind right there. I'm trying to listen
Speaker 2: to me. I understand. So what is a pumpkin? Vegetable fruit?
Speaker 3: It's vegetable, right, I don't know it's a.
Speaker 4: It's a fruit seeds.
Speaker 2: It comes off as.
Speaker 4: A fruit because it has a pie. You don't put
Speaker 4: vegetables in pies unless you do it with the pumpkin. Okay,
Speaker 4: So this is what I'm telling you. It's an illusion.
Speaker 4: God put pumpkin here for us to just look at,
Speaker 4: and not a hippos. Give it to hippos, hippoles out
Speaker 4: of the only animal this say, you know what, give me
Speaker 4: some pump.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 4: They're the only one that's looking for pumpkin. And I'm
Speaker 4: just I'm just I'm flabbergasted by how people like blow
Speaker 4: it up this like I'm just blown away, and I
Speaker 4: just get tired.
Speaker 2: Yeh. Everywhere I go. I can't go to Target, just
Speaker 2: pumpkins everywhere.
Speaker 4: Everywhere you go to this pumpkins. It don't eed to
Speaker 4: smell good. Just pumpkins everywhere.
Speaker 2: I hate it.
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Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna jump in my Hunda. Go get
Speaker 4: some pumpkin.
Speaker 2: Damn, I think I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 3: You're driving complete opposite direction.
Speaker 4: Listen, Listen, have you ever played in a pumpkin patch?
Speaker 2: I have not, me neither. Listen. I would throw up
Speaker 2: if I see the pumpkin patch.
Speaker 4: Like that is how I feel about pumpk because I'm
Speaker 4: just totally against the vegetable or fruit, whatever you want
Speaker 4: to call it, totally against.
Speaker 5: You're gonna makee me go do some research now from
Speaker 5: the vegetables, like why is pumpkin even?
Speaker 3: Why is it the thing?
Speaker 2: Why is the thing? I don't.
Speaker 4: I think it got to the point in the early
Speaker 4: like eighteen hundred, they were like, you know what, we
Speaker 4: gotta find something.
Speaker 2: To do with this pumpkin because it's just's nasty.
Speaker 4: Like, by the way, honey, make me some pumpkin in
Speaker 4: the backyard.
Speaker 2: No, they had to find.
Speaker 4: Something to do. So they say, we're gonna cut faces
Speaker 4: in it in Halloween.
Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 4: We're gonna cut faces in it and Halloween and then
Speaker 4: for Thanksgiving thirty days later, we're gonna set it on
Speaker 4: the porch. We're gonna set it on like food that
Speaker 4: you really want.
Speaker 2: You're not sitting round.
Speaker 3: The board, right, you don't set food outside.
Speaker 4: You just don't do it if you really like it.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, you're actually selling me on that's a good set.
Speaker 2: I say.
Speaker 1: You can't sell the Chicago Bears to anybody. See what
Speaker 1: they've lost fourteenth straight going back to last year.
Speaker 4: Listen, they've seen they can't get the coaching right like
Speaker 4: ebra Flews.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a great name, by the way,
Speaker 2: but I'm sorry, it's not working. And anytime you.
Speaker 4: See great players, good players regress, it's usually because of coaching.
Speaker 4: Justin Fields does not look like himself, not the guy
Speaker 4: that we saw last year. And they are they to
Speaker 4: be fair, they in the rebuilding. You know, they're in
Speaker 4: the rebuilding. When you rebuild, you gotta tear the house
Speaker 4: down till the studs billy back up.
Speaker 2: But it just doesn't look good.
Speaker 4: The only people that's pretty much I thought this how
Speaker 4: we thought the Arizona Cardinal was gonna be. But it's
Speaker 4: the Bears and the Broncos looking terrible right now.
Speaker 1: So you always hear this, but there's definitely something to
Speaker 1: it where sometimes even if guys ought to good coach
Speaker 1: or maybe he is, but athletes, guys in locker room
Speaker 1: need to hear a different voice.
Speaker 3: Yes, the message needed to be different.
Speaker 2: The same message. It's just like we're kids.
Speaker 4: You just put it in their head, don't do this,
Speaker 4: don't do this, little Willie, don't do this. But then somebody,
Speaker 4: a coach or something, tell them, you know what, you
Speaker 4: shouldn't do that with Willie. Then a light bulb goes.
Speaker 4: It was the different voice. They tied a repetitive voice.
Speaker 4: They just tied of hearing anything from you. It's just
Speaker 4: the new voice in the new standard. And that's what
Speaker 4: coaches do.
Speaker 2: They set a standard, and then we moved from that.
Speaker 3: We grow from that Thursday night football.
Speaker 1: What do you want to see from this Commander's team
Speaker 1: that you maybe didn't see or you want to see
Speaker 1: more of.
Speaker 4: I want to see them finish because we did not
Speaker 4: finish that philodethic game. I want to see them beat
Speaker 4: the team they should beat. They should beat Chicago. Yes,
Speaker 4: I want to see them go out there and treat
Speaker 4: Chicago like they are like it don't need to be
Speaker 4: this tight game, this blow for blow like we we
Speaker 4: seen it. Only play Chicago on Thursday nights because we
Speaker 4: played them last year on a Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: So, but I know how Thursday night can affect you
Speaker 4: just play the game and in seventy two hours you're
Speaker 4: finna play another one. So not only do you gotta
Speaker 4: flush the mental part out of the last game, you
Speaker 4: got to intake all of this game plan for the Bears.
Speaker 4: The great part about Thursday night, you got Friday, Saturday, Sun,
Speaker 4: you got a long weekend. So you know you want
Speaker 4: to go to that long weekend with a victory. But
Speaker 4: I want to see them cross their teams and dot
Speaker 4: they eyes. I want to see them get better every
Speaker 4: game and so far this year, win, lose, a draw,
Speaker 4: better every game.
Speaker 1: This is the chance to get right now. You have
Speaker 1: that long week after this, but before that short rep time.
Speaker 1: How difficult is that physically you just got finished playing
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 4: It hurts, Like that's why the coach is more about
Speaker 4: letting the guys have time off. Like if you're a
Speaker 4: player right now, all you're thinking about is rehab, rehab, rehab.
Speaker 4: I want to get my body back. My mind gonna
Speaker 4: be there, We'll my body be there on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Because we see a lot of bad Thursday night.
Speaker 4: Football games now because of coaching, because of the guys.
Speaker 4: How does not fully back get and It will test
Speaker 4: the depth on your team. Right now, you get to
Speaker 4: see from roster spot one to fifty three, how good
Speaker 4: are you? That's what Thursday Night challenge from all the
Speaker 4: coaches under.
Speaker 1: The lights on Thursday Commanders and the Bears. That's my guy,
Speaker 1: Fred Smoot.
Speaker 2: And he hates Pumpkin, I hate Punkin.
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