WEBVTT - An Oil Baron’s Frog Venom Heart Attack

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<v Speaker 1>Something strange is going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is killing Russian billionaires? Another Russian oligarch has been

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<v Speaker 2>found dead. Reports suggests that he hanged himself, fell.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of a window, slashed his wrists, was poisoned, murdered

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<v Speaker 1>his whole family. Last year, more than a dozen Russian

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<v Speaker 1>oligarchs died in the space of nine months. Many of

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<v Speaker 1>the deaths are suspicious with links to the Kremlin. This

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<v Speaker 1>is sad Oligach, an investigation into these recently dead Russian billionaires.

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<v Speaker 1>It's created by me, Jake Hanrahan and my colleague Sergey Slipchenkok.

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<v Speaker 1>Sad Oligarch is a H eleven production for Kulso Media

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<v Speaker 1>and iHeartRadio. We all know about the vague stereotype that

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<v Speaker 1>Russians love to drink a lot. Russians have long been

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<v Speaker 1>depicted in Western entertainment as crazy, drunk caricatures who can

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<v Speaker 1>drink liters of vodka without issue. Now, Russia, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>does have a big drinking culture, as does many other countries,

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<v Speaker 1>my own included. Trust me, it's a shallow reflection of

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<v Speaker 1>a country's fabric to simply rely on these played out stereotypes.

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<v Speaker 1>That said, this oligarch death is one that sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a plot to an exploitative Hollywood film. There's heavy drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>shamanic rituals, and a dead Russian billionaire with links to

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<v Speaker 1>one of the largest oil and gas companies in Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>That company, Luke Oil, is very friendly with the Kremlin.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the strange death of Alexander Sabochin. On twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>forty three year old Alexander Sabochin woke up with a

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<v Speaker 1>particularly bad hangover. You probably know the kind mouth like

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<v Speaker 1>a desert eye, is sensitive head splitting into the lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bochin had been up the night before drinking heavily.

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<v Speaker 1>Sources suggest that this had been one night of many.

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<v Speaker 1>Subotchin had been on a drinking spree, down in large

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of alcohol for many days in a row. Heavy

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<v Speaker 1>drinking had become a problem for him. It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>a celebration, a night out, or a one off. With

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<v Speaker 1>a head full of drink and stuff to do to,

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<v Speaker 1>Botching sought out an unconventional hangover cure. Your ravage drinker

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<v Speaker 1>might double up on a barako or hit the sauna,

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<v Speaker 1>but not so Botching. He was extremely wealthy, so he

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<v Speaker 1>paid to see a shaman. As unusual as that might

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<v Speaker 1>sound to some, the belief in shamanism is something not

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<v Speaker 1>entirely unheard of in Russia, especially not amongst the country's elite.

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<v Speaker 3>Sergery explains, in Russia, the occult kind of came up

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<v Speaker 3>as an answer to kind of all the cases been

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<v Speaker 3>going on. There has been a lot of m morel

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<v Speaker 3>in Russia. Basically the past one hundred years had three

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<v Speaker 3>major changes from Imperial Russia to communism and then now

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<v Speaker 3>to whatever this is. People turn towards this. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>superstition and things like that. And then like Shawmanism specifically

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<v Speaker 3>came from kind of the intermingling of cultures. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of tribes in eastern eastern northern Russia

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<v Speaker 3>where this is just their way of life for a

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<v Speaker 3>long long time, and it kind of got, i guess,

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<v Speaker 3>adopted by Western Russians into something more like mysticism, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>looking for an answer, looking for alternative ways, they seek healing,

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<v Speaker 3>They kind of seek an answer of like a more

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<v Speaker 3>spiritual answer. And basically the Russian lead they see this

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<v Speaker 3>as like covering all bases, and those who can afford it,

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<v Speaker 3>they get private sessions, they get private sciances. This is

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<v Speaker 3>not exactly new. If you look at the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years of Imperial Russia, I think most people know

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<v Speaker 3>some aspect of the whole respute and story where the

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<v Speaker 3>tzar's wife was seeking basically any cure for their son

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<v Speaker 3>who I forget the name of the disease, but basically

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<v Speaker 3>if he bled or something, he couldn't stop, like he

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<v Speaker 3>would bleed out to death. Seemingly, the only answer they

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<v Speaker 3>could find was whatever Resputin did. As far as people

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<v Speaker 3>could tell, he was some kind of mystic almost t

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<v Speaker 3>wizard person, right, and they really believe that, like they

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<v Speaker 3>really got into that, and that kind of stuck around.

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<v Speaker 3>When there's so much like turmoil, so much shit going on,

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<v Speaker 3>you just kind of turn to other explanations, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the only thing that you kind of think can help

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<v Speaker 3>or save you. You can't trust the government, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>really trust the like regular institutions. You turn to whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it might be that give you that hope or that

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<v Speaker 3>answer to your questions. But you see this like certain levels.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you see celebrities, you see oligarchs and other

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like up there people who they definitely use

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<v Speaker 3>the services, they're friends with them. You know, they literally

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<v Speaker 3>have like celebrity shamans or celebrity mystics, you know, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the like Primetime Reality TV is a battle of

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<v Speaker 3>the psychics, and it's essentially like, I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like a it's kind of hard to explain what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>seeing it. It's basically like who's the best psychic? And

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<v Speaker 3>they have different challenges. They try to figure out murder mysteries.

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<v Speaker 3>They try to well, I mean according to them, they talk,

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<v Speaker 3>they do sol murder mysteries, they speak with the dead

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<v Speaker 3>and such, and somehow they compete for whoever is the best.

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<v Speaker 3>It's popular stuff like people watch this. I'm sure a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people are skeptical or kind of see it

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<v Speaker 3>as like a fun, kind of dumb show too much,

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<v Speaker 3>But I think a lot of people do kind of

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<v Speaker 3>if they don't believe it, they're kind of on the

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<v Speaker 3>side where like you know what, who knows maybe enough

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<v Speaker 3>to the point where it is relevant in society. People

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<v Speaker 3>do get readings. People go like regular people go for

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<v Speaker 3>readings and stuff, right, and then if you're can to

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<v Speaker 3>afford it, you can have a celebrity shaman come and

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<v Speaker 3>give you some kind of seance to get your hangar overcured,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just guess this time it kind of show

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<v Speaker 3>that these shamans might not exactly be you know, experts,

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<v Speaker 3>but maybe grifters who don't exactly know what they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>and get you killed.

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<v Speaker 1>A revival of shamanism in Russia is something that became

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<v Speaker 1>particularly popular in Siberia, the large desolate region in the

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<v Speaker 1>country's east. Journalist Jessin Mater wrote about this in twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, quote, the collapse of the Soviet Union, Herald

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<v Speaker 1>did a religious revival throughout Russia. Perhaps unexpectedly, shamanism has

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<v Speaker 1>achieved newfound popularity, not just in its traditional homeland, but

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<v Speaker 1>also across Russia and beyond. Although the Tenjair belief a

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<v Speaker 1>type of shamanism is originally a practice of the ethnic

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<v Speaker 1>Burriats who have historically inhabited Siberia, many of the visitors

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<v Speaker 1>to the temple and some of its shamans are ethnic

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<v Speaker 1>Russians end quote. This journalist was actually present at one

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<v Speaker 1>of the more traditional shamanic rituals. He describes two shamans

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<v Speaker 1>stood on one side of the room, wearing bright blue

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<v Speaker 1>robes with hats that cover their eyes. Some shamans believe

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<v Speaker 1>that spirits are afraid to look into the eyes of

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<v Speaker 1>a human being. The shamans beat drums and chant frantically

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the room. Ritual participants are

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<v Speaker 1>guided on what movements to make and what phrases to

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<v Speaker 1>say to follow the rules of the ritual. In this

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<v Speaker 1>type of shamanism, no type of elixir or medicine is

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<v Speaker 1>consumed or administered. That's not always the case, stock The

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<v Speaker 1>head of the s Yamen Center in urkust Vitally Balteyev,

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<v Speaker 1>has spoken about a rise in Russia of what he

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<v Speaker 1>calls neo shamanism. Neo shamanism is basically an amalgamation of

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<v Speaker 1>various different ancient shamanic practices repurposed for people interested in

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<v Speaker 1>New Age type religions. These ones often involve various mixtures

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<v Speaker 1>and intoxicants that have to be consumed by the person

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<v Speaker 1>having the ritual performed on them. This is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of ritual Alexander Subotchin was involved in before he died

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<v Speaker 1>in May twenty twenty two. Subochin sought out the shamanic

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<v Speaker 1>services of Tino Korda and Magua Floes, also known by

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<v Speaker 1>their real names Christina Tea Krub and Alexi Pinduran respectively.

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<v Speaker 1>These two are self proclaimed shamans in Russia. They're most

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<v Speaker 1>definitely more involved in the new age bracket of this practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Before this incident where Sebochin died, the two shamans had

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty sleek media presence online. There are several professional

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<v Speaker 1>photos of the pair, both white in their shaman get up.

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<v Speaker 1>One image shows Christina ta Krub dressed in a long

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<v Speaker 1>patterned robe with a Native American style headdress made of

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<v Speaker 1>white feathers. Next to her stands Alexi Penduran, dressed in

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<v Speaker 1>a diamond patterned robe with a turquoise and red fez

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<v Speaker 1>shaped hat. A black feather is placed into the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the hat, and Penduran is hitting a large raw

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<v Speaker 1>hired drum with a wooden club. Honestly, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing dresser. It doesn't help that Penduring can be

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<v Speaker 1>seen wearing a black hoodie under his shamanic rogue. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>the pair took shamanism very seriously on the outside, and

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<v Speaker 1>they made money out of it. They put in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of effort to form their shamanic brand. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>Penduran's now defunct YouTube channel under his pseudonym Magua Flores

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<v Speaker 1>has a well produced ten minute long video where he

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<v Speaker 1>performs a ritual with a more traditional shaman. It has

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<v Speaker 1>over ten thousand the views. The only other public release

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<v Speaker 1>on the channel is a very weird cringe music video,

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<v Speaker 1>which admittedly shows the popularity of the couple. Many different

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<v Speaker 1>scenes play out with dozens and dozens of people, all

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<v Speaker 1>of them Western in appearance, attending tea Grub and Penduran's

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<v Speaker 1>shamanic rituals. On there now abandoned Instagram account, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a photo in a recording studio with Nikita Jigorda. He

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<v Speaker 1>is also in the music video Jigorda sixty two is

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<v Speaker 1>a Ukrainian born actor and singer. He stays in Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>where he's famous. Jagorda is pro Putin and has publicly

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<v Speaker 1>celebrated the Russian invasion of Ukraine with particularly bare faced bloodluss.

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<v Speaker 1>There are even videos on his Instagram account where he's

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<v Speaker 1>in Zaparija in Ukraine with Russian forces. He's cheering them

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<v Speaker 1>on to his three hundred and forty thousand followers. He's

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<v Speaker 1>dressed in full military fatigues and he's throwing his hands

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air with joy as mortars are fired

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<v Speaker 1>off with the aim of striking Ukrainian forces who are

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<v Speaker 1>defending their lands. In the caption, he condemns Ukraine and

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<v Speaker 1>he says that he's been performing occult rituals on the

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<v Speaker 1>front line to help the occupying Russian forces. Weird. Needless

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<v Speaker 1>to say, the self proclaimed shaman's tea grub and pinduring

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<v Speaker 1>have been operating in some strange circles in Russia for

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<v Speaker 1>years now. They've also been offering their services to anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who can afford it. In twenty twenty two, Alexander Sebotchin

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<v Speaker 1>took part in these services in the midst of a

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<v Speaker 1>one on one ceremony in the basement of the shaman's home,

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<v Speaker 1>presumably with incense in the air, several burning candles and

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<v Speaker 1>abided hat placed on his head, he had toad venoma

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<v Speaker 1>put into his bloodstream via an incision made into his skin.

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<v Speaker 1>This was administered by tea grub and pinduring. Alexander Subotchin

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<v Speaker 1>then had a heart attack. The shamans tried to treat

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<v Speaker 1>him with valerian a herb Tabatchin soon died of cardiac arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>Whilst the full autopsy isn't public, it's presumed that the

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<v Speaker 1>toad venom is what caused the heart attack. According to

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<v Speaker 1>the National Capital Poison Center and organization dedicated to preventing poisonings,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the toxins in toad venom, such as digoxin, tryptomines,

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<v Speaker 1>and tetro detoxin, can cause irregular heart rhythms, dizziness, paralysis,

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<v Speaker 1>and heart attack. This is what the two shamans injected

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<v Speaker 1>into the skin of Alexander Subotchin to try and treat

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<v Speaker 1>his alcohol problems after he'd been on a long bender

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<v Speaker 1>of drinking alcohol. I spoke to scientists and researcher Jovanna

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<v Speaker 1>Maxich about the kind of shamanism Tea Group and Penduring

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<v Speaker 1>were involved in. She has knowledge on these kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>practices with an anthropological background in similar communities.

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<v Speaker 2>From what I gathered, their type of shamanism seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be kind of a syncretic mix of already existing traditions.

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<v Speaker 2>But weirdly, there were not any kind of indigenous or

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<v Speaker 2>Slavic practices that you would find in Russia today. There

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<v Speaker 2>were actually a mixture of Afro Caribbean and South American practices. So,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, the specific toad venom ritual comes from the Amazon.

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<v Speaker 2>So these people have seemed to really use these mostly

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<v Speaker 2>South American traditions in their shamanic practices. Shaman Magua Flores

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<v Speaker 2>his real name being alexey Pin Durin and his wife

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<v Speaker 2>Tina Cordova or Christina Taikrib. It seems like these people

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<v Speaker 2>have been running the kind of open house specifically for rich,

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<v Speaker 2>wealthy Moscow vites to come and sort of indulge in

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<v Speaker 2>these black magic rituals and drugs. According to a famous

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<v Speaker 2>makeup artist who actually got involved in a very negative

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<v Speaker 2>way with the shamanic cup, well, she said that in

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<v Speaker 2>their house they have a basement where they practice black

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<v Speaker 2>magic rituals and here they keep animal blood, live animals

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<v Speaker 2>that they kill and then use for different sorts of rituals,

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<v Speaker 2>but also enough psychotropic substances and drugs to send somebody

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<v Speaker 2>to prison for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember at the start when I said this case sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a bad Hollywood movie, Well, this is where the

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<v Speaker 1>black magic comes in. Whilst it might sound over the

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<v Speaker 1>top or how to believe, for some occultism has been

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<v Speaker 1>making a steady revival all across the world for the

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<v Speaker 1>last decade. Even the practice of so called black magic,

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<v Speaker 1>often linked to left hand path occultism. In fact, in

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<v Speaker 1>Russia in twenty twenty one, a couple who believed heavily

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<v Speaker 1>in the occult were arrested and charged for committing several

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<v Speaker 1>human sacrifices. Real ones Olga Bolshakhova and Andre true Jabenko

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<v Speaker 1>stabbed several people to death in the forest as part

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<v Speaker 1>of their twisted beliefs. The murders occurred in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but were kept hidden for five years. It's believed many

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<v Speaker 1>other people were involved in the couple's occult group, currently

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<v Speaker 1>there awaiting trial. So whilst this story about the neo

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<v Speaker 1>shaman's Taikarub and Penduring having a basement for black magic

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<v Speaker 1>might sound absolutely mental, it's actually quite plausible. Remember the

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<v Speaker 1>two were pictured with that actor Nikita Jagorda, who openly

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<v Speaker 1>talks about performing occult rituals. He also has a black

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<v Speaker 1>son tattoo on his right elbow. The black son symbolizes

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<v Speaker 1>esoteric fascism and dark occultism. Anyway, let's hear what else

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<v Speaker 1>Yovanna Maxich had to say.

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<v Speaker 2>So this seems to be kind of like more running institutions,

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<v Speaker 2>so to say, for the elites coming there to treat

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<v Speaker 2>their ailments. But very interestingly, this case with the makeup

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<v Speaker 2>artist is actually really strange because it seems like this

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<v Speaker 2>shamanic couple organizes some kind of retreat where they invite

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<v Speaker 2>people to come, and this retreat kind of went badly

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<v Speaker 2>for this person. So essentially what happened is this makeup

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<v Speaker 2>artist was flown over to Mexico to go on a

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<v Speaker 2>retreat with this weird couple and the idea is that

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<v Speaker 2>they would go there and somehow help with spiritual healing, ailments,

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<v Speaker 2>you name it. And what happened, according to her report,

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<v Speaker 2>is that already in the first couple of days, the

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<v Speaker 2>couple started getting drunk on tequila and brought all of

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<v Speaker 2>these like real shamans from Peru and Mexico and started

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<v Speaker 2>being kind of aggressive and violent towards this makeup artist.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the main reasons why they wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>there is so that they could do this ritual that

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<v Speaker 2>actually involves toad venom. So that's something that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>was the acclaimed cause of the death of Alexander Subuchin.

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<v Speaker 2>But this ritual called cambo is actually comprised of making

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<v Speaker 2>incisions or burns on a person in and then adding

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<v Speaker 2>this toad venom, which kind of like creates convulsions, vomiting,

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<v Speaker 2>and after that you feel kind of like spiritual enlightenment

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<v Speaker 2>or healing if you survive. If you survive, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>people have died actually by you know, the wrong use

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<v Speaker 2>or just irresponsible use of this cumbo ritual. But what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to this person is she noticed that, Okay, things

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<v Speaker 2>are dodgy, this is weird. They're becoming really aggressive and drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>So she called her husband and she tried to leave

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<v Speaker 2>the retreat, but when she tried to do that, the

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<v Speaker 2>couple allegedly beat her up, and then when she wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the police and report what happened, the

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<v Speaker 2>couple basically like blackmailed her and claimed that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to kill her with different drugs and chemicals, and also

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<v Speaker 2>that they have many enemies that they know how to

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<v Speaker 2>eliminate very easily. So nothing really happened in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's out there and it's been documented.

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<v Speaker 1>They're probably making quite a bit of money, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Subbortching himself was an out and out billionaire, an oil barren. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>they must be making quite a lot of money to

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<v Speaker 1>be in these circles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally. I mean, I'm certain, and also from the

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<v Speaker 2>reports that exist, it sounds like a lot of different

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<v Speaker 2>very vip and wealthy people were mingling in this house

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<v Speaker 2>and coming in buying, so it must be making bang right.

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<v Speaker 1>So on one hand, I'm thinking, well, this might actually

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<v Speaker 1>just be a coincidence. It's a case of misadventure. For

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, this Russian billionaire went to this weird dodgy ritual. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>his company has ties to the Kremlin, but maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>one was a coincidence. Why would they kill him with

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<v Speaker 1>frog venom? But there is a history right in Russia

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<v Speaker 1>of people being knocked off, assassinated with strange poison, strange concoctions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, This is actually a famous phenomenon called the

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<v Speaker 2>Liternoe or like literno assassinations. So as we know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the Putin era we've seen a lot of these strange

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<v Speaker 2>poisonings and murders of different political opponents and writers. But

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<v Speaker 2>in Stalinist Russia, these types of killings were specifically framed

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<v Speaker 2>as Liternoi killings, and they were secret, disguised liquidations that

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<v Speaker 2>were often staged to be natural deaths or suicides. So

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<v Speaker 2>the NTVD, which was the Soviet Union's Interior Ministry. They're

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<v Speaker 2>the factor Walter Kivitski who killed many for Stalin and

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<v Speaker 2>then was himself in a fake suicide. He said that

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<v Speaker 2>any fool could murder someone, but it takes a true

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<v Speaker 2>artist to stage a natural death from disease or suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think it's a stretch, particularly if we

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<v Speaker 1>look at, for example, Alexander Livignenko was poisoned for essentially

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<v Speaker 1>wearing that book blowing up Russia, various people infected with

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<v Speaker 1>polonium put into their tea. I don't think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>stretch personally to think. Yeah, perhaps Putin has tried to

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<v Speaker 1>carry that.

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<v Speaker 2>On, Yeah, totally. But really for this shaman case, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really not sure what to think. There's so many weird coincidences,

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<v Speaker 2>but it does look pretty possible as well, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>already documented cases of people dying specifically from this. But

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<v Speaker 2>then the question is did someone manipulate the ritual? Did

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<v Speaker 2>someone know exactly what kind of venom to use? Because

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<v Speaker 2>if you use the vendom of a different frog, you

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<v Speaker 2>can kill people much easily. So if you just tweak

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<v Speaker 2>certain elements in there, or just you know, slide another

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<v Speaker 2>drug to this, person it's easy to kill, But then

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<v Speaker 2>why would they kill him? That's the question.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the question. If Alexander Subochin was killed and

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<v Speaker 1>this wasn't just some weird shamanic accident, who killed him

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<v Speaker 1>and why is there an obvious motive. For most of

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<v Speaker 1>his life, Alexander Sebochin managed to keep his name out

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<v Speaker 1>of the media. He enjoyed his privacy. Not much is

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<v Speaker 1>known about his early career, but after completing his PhD

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and nine, Subochin joined multinational energy u

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<v Speaker 1>corporation Louke Oil. His brother also worked there. By the

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<v Speaker 1>time of Alexander Sebotchin's death in twenty twenty two, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a member of the board. That's a prestigious position

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<v Speaker 1>to have considering how much money the company makes. Luke Oil,

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<v Speaker 1>which is headquartered in Moscow, produces more than two percent

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<v Speaker 1>of all the world's oil and around one percent of

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<v Speaker 1>proved hydrocarbon reserves. They refine more than a million barrels

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<v Speaker 1>of oil a day and employ over one hundred thousand people.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a massive operation that's been going since nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety one. A Russian corporation with this much clout naturally

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<v Speaker 1>has links to the Russian government. One of the more

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<v Speaker 1>direct links, perhaps is Russian oligarch vejet Alekparov. Elekporov, who's

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<v Speaker 1>of Aziri descent, was the president of Luke Oil from

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety three to twenty twenty two. He's worth an

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<v Speaker 1>estimated nineteen billion US dollars and is believed to be

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth richest man in Russia. Now. As I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>in episode one, some of the rich dead Russian businessmen

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<v Speaker 1>in this series are not necessarily oligach oligaks. Elektorov, however,

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<v Speaker 1>is one hundred percent an oligach oligach. He's in the

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<v Speaker 1>top one hundred of the richest people on Earth and

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<v Speaker 1>had a twenty eight point three percent stake of Lukoyl

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<v Speaker 1>as of twenty twenty two. What's more, his friends with

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<v Speaker 1>Putin and was sanctioned by Britain when Russia invaded Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>in February last year. In a statement from the British

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<v Speaker 1>government's official sanctions list, they said, quote through his directorship

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<v Speaker 1>of Lukoyl, Elekorov continues to obtain a benefit from and

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<v Speaker 1>or continues to support the government of Russia by working

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<v Speaker 1>as a director, trustee or equivalent of entities carrying on

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<v Speaker 1>business in sectors of strategic significance to the Government of Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>namely the Russian energy sector. Endsco Archived copies of Lukoyl's

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<v Speaker 1>tax payments to the Kremlin seen by journalist Rob Davies

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<v Speaker 1>show that the company contributed more than six billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to the Kremlin in twenty twenty alone. Tax documents after

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<v Speaker 1>that are not available. In April twenty twenty two, Alekporov

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<v Speaker 1>stepped down as the president of Loakoil due to the

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<v Speaker 1>sanctions issues. Before this, there had already been trouble after

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<v Speaker 1>Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Lakoyl's London listed shares lost roughly

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine percent of their value. That's a hell of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. War at that time was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not good for business for Lakoil, so much so that

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<v Speaker 1>they broke ranks with Putin after more than twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Board of directors of Lukoil, which Alexander Subotchin was part of,

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<v Speaker 1>released a public statement on March third, twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine just one week after it started.

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<v Speaker 1>For Putin, that must have been a slap in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>Subochin was still alive at this time and would have

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<v Speaker 1>been involved in the statement. The board said the following quote.

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<v Speaker 1>The Board of Directors of Lukoil expresses its deepest concerns

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<v Speaker 1>about the tragic events in Ukraine, calling for the soonest

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<v Speaker 1>termination of the armed conflict. We express our sincere empathy

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<v Speaker 1>for all victims who are affected by this tragedy. We

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<v Speaker 1>strongly support a lasting ceasefire and a settlement of problems

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<v Speaker 1>through serious negotiations and diplomacy. The company may makes every

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<v Speaker 1>effort to continue its operations in all countries and regions

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<v Speaker 1>where it is present, Committed to its primary mission of

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<v Speaker 1>a reliable supplier of energy to consumers around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>In its activities, Lukoil aspires to contribute to peace, international

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<v Speaker 1>relations and humanitarian ties. End quote. Now, Honestly, I doubt

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<v Speaker 1>the Board of Directors of Lucoyl care at all about Ukraine, really,

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<v Speaker 1>but they clearly do care about the company's profit margins.

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<v Speaker 1>The war began to seriously disrupt that at the time

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<v Speaker 1>of their statement. However, more than a year after the invasion,

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<v Speaker 1>Lucoil has managed to weather the storm. As reported by

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<v Speaker 1>journalist Victor Jack, Lucoil is still actually operating hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>gas stations and oil refineries in the EU. This made

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<v Speaker 1>them a net profit of eight billion dollars within the

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<v Speaker 1>first nine months of twenty twenty two, when Russia was,

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<v Speaker 1>of course actively trying to destroy Ukraine. That's more than

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<v Speaker 1>double the amount from the same time period in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one. So Lukoil actually made more money as the

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>war went on, partially facilitated by their work in the EU.

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<v Speaker 1>This money was of course shared with the Kremlin via taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>and no doubt helped them to manufacture and purchase new

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<v Speaker 1>weapons for their continued attacks on Ukraine. Either way, despite

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<v Speaker 1>securing the bag later on in the year, Lukoil went

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<v Speaker 1>against Putin publicly as the whole world had its eyes

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<v Speaker 1>on Russia and Ukraine. Even as a powerful billionaire in Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not wise to go against the Kremlin for me.

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<v Speaker 1>After looking at all of this information, this leaves two

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<v Speaker 1>possible theories regarding the death of Alexander Subotchin. First theory,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a very rich alcoholic who, like many Russian elites,

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<v Speaker 1>decided to enlist the help of the Neo Shamans to

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<v Speaker 1>kick his habit. And get sober in the process, a

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<v Speaker 1>dodgy ritual with frog venom ended his life by accident,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially death by misadventure, and two grifters who messed up

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<v Speaker 1>the concoctions. The timing of the death, Subotchin's position at

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<v Speaker 1>luk Oil, and their very public defiance to Putin is

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<v Speaker 1>all just a coincidence. As they say, sometimes a cigar

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<v Speaker 1>is just a cigar. Second theory, Alexander Sebochin was on

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<v Speaker 1>the board of Lukoil when they released a statement against

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<v Speaker 1>Putin's war on Ukraine. Maybe he was instrumental in that statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps Putin wanted him gone because of this, it'd be

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<v Speaker 1>easy for Putin's people to gather in f mation on Subotchin.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they waited for a few months, heard about the

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<v Speaker 1>shamanic ritual, and decided now was the time. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>had the frog venom swapped for something more potent, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the shamans were in their pocket and they told

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<v Speaker 1>them to simply up the dose. Now, personally, I was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more inclined to believe the first theory. Misadventures

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<v Speaker 1>seemed more likely then. As me and Sergey continued our research,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw that another board member of Lukeoyle died just

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<v Speaker 1>four months after Alexander Subotchin. His name was Ravil Maganov.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the sixty seven year old chairman of Lukoyle.

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<v Speaker 1>In September twenty twenty two, he fell out of a

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<v Speaker 1>window at a hospital in Moscow. In a public statement,

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<v Speaker 1>Lukoyle simply said that Maganov passed away of quote a

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<v Speaker 1>severe ill, with no mention about the four We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>looking into the death of Maganov later on in this series,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think at the very least it makes Alexander

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