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Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we talked Emmy

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Speaker 1: nominated Santana Moss, Gret and we got rookie minute camp

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Speaker 1: Ota first days in the book. What are our impressions?

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Speaker 1: We give you the full rundown. We talked schedule released preview,

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Speaker 1: what is the best matchup for prime time? Make sure

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Speaker 1: you stay tuned to find out. And we got the

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Speaker 1: mail Man segment. Fans, you submitted your segments, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about them, and it all starts right out now. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to The Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paul City with

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Speaker 1: Fred Smooth and Santana Moss and guys, we got a

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Speaker 1: great show for you today, right first off, let's start

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Speaker 1: for things. First, our guy, the Man, the myth Legend,

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Speaker 1: Santana Moss up for an Emmy for Players Club the

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Speaker 1: b Rob episode. That's pretty exciting, man.

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Speaker 2: That's dope.

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Speaker 1: Yeh, dope.

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Speaker 2: We probably won't win, but you know it's good to

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Speaker 2: be up for one. It's my second time being up

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Speaker 2: for one.

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Speaker 3: Really show a couple of tab that should get a creaty.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, elks, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Get two percent.

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Speaker 1: Spend a pretty cool episode though, to get your friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean and then you got to think about it.

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Speaker 2: It's just not me on the show. You got the

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Speaker 2: great Nonhing Fletcher on the show. You know, he's the

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Speaker 2: guy hosting the thing. So I mean no, but don't

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Speaker 2: get me wrong. I'm you know, it's it's a privilege

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Speaker 2: to be you know. I guess you can say, you know,

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Speaker 2: for someone to say, hey, you know that show is

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Speaker 2: good enough to be up for one. And and like

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Speaker 2: I said, this is my second time. I had my

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Speaker 2: own show with NBC called Roud Dady nine. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think I had. If it was ov or h or

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Speaker 2: the picture from the Scratsburg No, the other one. What

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Speaker 2: his name was Sweltster Scratsburg, No, not Swazburg.

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Speaker 3: He had there you go, thank you, you.

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Speaker 1: Can go. Jas in the the CTO having a hard time.

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Speaker 2: At the same time. Yeah, So that's some second time,

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Speaker 2: you know. And like I said before, just being up

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Speaker 2: for one.

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Speaker 4: Special, I think we might get put up for one

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Speaker 4: one day for Tresway's show.

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Speaker 3: We did when he were saying that he's gonna get

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Speaker 3: his numb up.

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Speaker 2: Those that might get us one that might that might

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Speaker 2: make us win it. Tresh would have run out home

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Speaker 2: for us. I went home and cried myself like I

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Speaker 2: had just got my number two.

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Speaker 1: Really. Yeah. If you haven't seen that episode, it was

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Speaker 1: on the last episode of The Command Center, so it

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Speaker 1: makes you check that out. And then Tandy, you've got

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Speaker 1: the shirt on, let's show that shirt off. Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: So last episode we talked about that hawk outside at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. I was instructed to say it very

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Speaker 1: clearly this time people to understand it that hawk outside

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. And if you still don't understand me,

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Speaker 1: it's in the description link. And so basically, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: randomly select twenty winners for a free shirt, and five

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Speaker 1: random lucky winners will get a shirt signed by all

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Speaker 1: of us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now I probably devalue that shirt, but that's okay. And

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Speaker 1: then intern out with your email. Oh so intern out

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Speaker 1: email and include your size and shipping address and name. Right.

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Speaker 1: We're not doing multiple things here, right, just a guy

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Speaker 1: Jason and interned Caroline have to go through all those emails,

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Speaker 1: so let's make it easy for him. And just to

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Speaker 1: be clear, it's not that shirt, right.

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Speaker 3: Jason, we got another shirt that says.

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Speaker 1: That hawk outside. Yeah, and that's what you'll be getting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So Jason got something.

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Speaker 2: This is pretty neat though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that shirt a lot.

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Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, that's a really good shirt. We'll give those

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Speaker 5: away at life if you like come out the training camp,

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Speaker 5: we'll have some of those shirts has But yeah, the

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Speaker 5: He'll say that awk outside and will have the the

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Speaker 5: And so it's soft he just the just sent us

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Speaker 2: Can ask Ryan the would it be like a drop

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the howk out side is south it's a soft hat.

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Speaker 3: It's a self hop do it man and the hawks.

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Speaker 1: Out with and so obviously that's who we're giving away merch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but also please leave show ideas and we have a

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Speaker 1: secret at the end of the day. Yeah, that someone

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Speaker 1: left an email. We're gonna talk about his show idea

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Speaker 1: and we need more ideas. We're anywhere at the time

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Speaker 1: of year. What's it call front the male man mail man?

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Speaker 3: You remember where like people used to deliver milk to

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Speaker 1: I don't did that happened for you? You're not that old.

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Speaker 2: The Cusp, Well he was in Mississippi too.

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Speaker 4: They were jumping off the whole cown your front show,

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Speaker 2: They were still living like the thirties over in Missippi.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, the milk man and the male Man. You

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Speaker 3: The male Man? Could we go on to deliver? We're

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Speaker 2: I hate to say my first time ever in Mississippi.

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Speaker 2: It was the year after the Katrina Hurricane Katrina.

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Speaker 2: Good friend of mine, James Crawford. He's big in the

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Speaker 2: real estate game, and he know I was trying to

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Speaker 2: get into it. So you're like, tell him, come take

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Speaker 2: a trip with me to New Orleans. I want to

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Speaker 2: show you some of this new properties and properties that

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, you know, looking to try to purchase

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Speaker 2: or whatever. We in New Orleans seeing all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: It was a disaster. Man. He's from Mississippi. He drives

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Speaker 2: over the Mississippi. It's hot. He said, let's go get

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Speaker 2: some ice cream. Oh I heard this story, and he said,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather go to the window than go inside because

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Speaker 2: He sayd bro, they just allowed us to eat inside

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Speaker 1: What year with this is treating?

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Speaker 2: This is two thousand and six.

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Speaker 3: I just was vorice.

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Speaker 2: I had to break it up because it was I

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Speaker 2: a little I'm like, damn, Fred, like this is how

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Speaker 4: Capital city in Jackson prom for this from the country, Like.

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Speaker 2: They blew my mind because you know, I grew up

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Speaker 3: I hear the stories. I was like wow, wow.

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Speaker 2: He was like, he's like, it's some Jackson. It's must

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Speaker 1: And that's how Jackson is.

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Speaker 3: No, Jay Jackson ain't like that people right, you know what,

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Speaker 3: it's the New York. He's been here. And then people like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Everybody faces smoothed that like some stank like we ain't gotten.

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Speaker 1: Nothing off after that story.

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Speaker 3: My face, like, this is America is everywhere. It ain't

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Speaker 1: Good people and absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Unant saying it's something bad or cruel people. We were

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Speaker 4: When I say Mississippi, the people they some stink like

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Speaker 4: like that. You say California, people like yell by Golly,

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Speaker 4: I want to go to California.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's so that started to change a little

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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, so we got a who bunch

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Speaker 1: in a second. But there was a man here, Fred

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a scout from the Cincinnati Bengals when

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Speaker 1: The draft and so Fred, you know, we've had a

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Speaker 1: lot of contentious conversations Tanne.

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Speaker 2: That was a flowing wall out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, dude, It was so funny. So Fred's like, dude,

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Speaker 1: He's been one thousand.

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Speaker 3: He looked like he's about eight, be honest, but.

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Speaker 1: He's been one thousand pro days. Like, no way, he

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Speaker 1: remembers yours. I know. He's like, he remember my bench

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Speaker 1: And so we walk out there. Fred introduces me. The

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Speaker 1: Fred's so great. I love Fred. Everybody says that because

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Speaker 1: Fred's awesome. And then then I say, sir, do you

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Speaker 1: remember the forty?

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Speaker 3: Just start glowing because Fred.

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Speaker 1: Is a big advocate Tanna as you know that he

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Speaker 1: ran a fast time like you did. And so we

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Speaker 1: did some research. We asked multiple scouting departments around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: They said a four four seven, right? Was that the

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Speaker 5: Two, but it's in that general area.

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Speaker 1: And so the guy goes, you know what, I I

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Speaker 1: a four five almost.

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Speaker 3: You gott you probably fe know.

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Speaker 4: He he pulled a piccolo out of his pocket, like

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Speaker 4: he just erupted right there.

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Speaker 3: I like, no, it wasn't a four five.

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Speaker 1: It's good, sir, sir, it was a four four. He's like,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a four four. I don't really remember,

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Speaker 4: But I was shock he remembered the run Zock story

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Speaker 4: was when he told it, like you like.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you remember the name. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: a four five.

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Speaker 4: He was like, yeah, comes look toe for it. That

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Speaker 4: now like, hey, you eater, gonna play with me again.

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Speaker 1: That's where I was, dude, the courage that must have

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have plenty of belief. You have like

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Speaker 1: Think you can beat me in basketball?

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Speaker 4: Think you oh, I can beat you in basketball. Now

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Speaker 2: This is I've been training like Rocky.

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Speaker 1: So we're good friends, you know. So Fred and I

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Speaker 4: I like, man, you know what you know?

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Speaker 3: You all you don't have to do nothing.

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Speaker 3: Man, you know what forty five is? Forty five? This

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Speaker 1: Look great though. I'll tell you that I'll tell you that.

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Speaker 3: That's the nicest thing you need to say it.

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Speaker 1: Their reactions to it, I'm talking Fred and Santana, they

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Speaker 4: I was like It put belief in me you can

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Speaker 4: This universe is created with energy. The Sun radiates energy,

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Speaker 3: Your daddy, he stoked. I did that for.

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Speaker 4: Mister Paulson because I'm come to tell you why the passing,

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Speaker 4: Because he let me know that Logan is the dumbest pause.

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Speaker 4: So I really loved that. Everybody in his family is

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Speaker 3: Hey, I played for the little table man. You gotta

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Speaker 4: You're like, yeah, I love all my kids. Some shame

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so tell her what you think.

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Speaker 2: I loved it. I was shocked because I just wasn't

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Speaker 2: But when you look back at you know some of

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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I wasn't ready for this, and I

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Speaker 2: This game has gotten younger. You know, it's not a

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Speaker 2: So they getting those same guys that was you know,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I said, if that going to kind

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I think sometimes it's it's helpful because

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Speaker 4: Especially when guys don't feel like you know, like it's

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Speaker 3: I'm glad I was one of them people. I love practice.

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Speaker 4: I come out there yelling and hollering I ain't I

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Speaker 3: All I know when I'm watching Animal.

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Speaker 3: All I'm saying. And that's where I was.

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Speaker 4: So I was in so I was. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: I brought the same amount of energy and Greg, you

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Speaker 1: Off like yeah, yeah, I know it's a tradition, like

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Speaker 2: Something that's I was gonna add to it. Just you

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Speaker 2: I was one of those guys I went to practice

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get my hurdles in. I'm gonna do all

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Speaker 2: they're gonna come out there with with that mentality like hey,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So let's talk I mean, obviously let's talk about

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Speaker 2: Say McGee, you talk about them just looking at the dude.

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Speaker 2: but his body, Bro alone, like he just put together

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Speaker 2: You know, we haven't we talked so much about these

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he moves well. Man was really well.

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Speaker 3: So watching him run on.

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Speaker 4: The field today really made me feel good, like I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he ran great routes today. So seeing him beside.

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely, And it got for me is Dominice Hampton

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Speaker 1: He's He's the guy that really stuck out and just

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Speaker 2: Man, Look, I'm a guy receiver. I'm watching quarterbacks. I'm

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Speaker 2: you better see it. The ball is coming at you,

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Speaker 2: me wrong. It wasn't like they was going that far.

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00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,080
Speaker 2: But it was just on the money. It was right

440
00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,400
Speaker 2: here and that where I want to see the ball

441
00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,840
Speaker 2: that I want it right here. I don't want it

442
00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,600
Speaker 2: too hot, on too far behind me. And McCaffrey's strong

443
00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,359
Speaker 2: hands just snatching it. I mean that that's something you know,

444
00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,200
Speaker 2: that's it's early. So of course he's probably not you know, tired,

445
00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,200
Speaker 2: arm is fresh, you know what I mean. But it's

446
00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,760
Speaker 2: so much to be on you, and it's it's not

447
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,040
Speaker 2: like things out there going fast for me and not

448
00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,480
Speaker 2: like I said, that's it's early. As Mini camp, he

449
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,919
Speaker 2: seemed like a guy that's reserved. He seemed like a

450
00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,960
Speaker 2: guy that I mean from Washington, too high Washington. Watching

451
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,080
Speaker 2: his interviews, he says the right things. He's not letting

452
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Speaker 2: you trap him. I saw trying to trap him a

453
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Speaker 2: couple of times seven people.

454
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Speaker 4: That tried to trap him already, you can't really answer

455
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Speaker 4: it that story and something you know, like if I

456
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,239
Speaker 4: asked you a question like you know what, Logan, I

457
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,600
Speaker 4: know you and Cooley? Which teammates did you like?

458
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Speaker 1: You know?

459
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,919
Speaker 4: Like now that's a trapped question, like yeah, I like him.

460
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,880
Speaker 4: But if I say anything else, start a grace fi

461
00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,400
Speaker 4: Like so he's been trapped like that a couple of times.

462
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 4: I think, what really does it for me? With him

463
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Speaker 4: control of these many huddles that had I like to

464
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 4: see a presence in that. And the first day we

465
00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:09,040
Speaker 4: saw the Rookers practice, I saw him correcting receivers the

466
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,760
Speaker 4: first Like that's telling me he already knows most of

467
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 4: the playbook. Like that's telling me he took it upon himself. Man, Yeah,

468
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 4: it took it to pun himself to say, you know what,

469
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,439
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get so fired to this pray book that

470
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Speaker 4: I can help the people that came in with me.

471
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Speaker 2: You know, I had a son and this is something

472
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 2: I live by, you know, And it's not something that

473
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 2: you say you are, It's just something that you know

474
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 2: over time. I know him because people have told me.

475
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,800
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I understand it enough. But

476
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Speaker 2: I had a saying that I always said, the humble man

477
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 2: come out on top. And when I say humble, like

478
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Speaker 2: when you have a guy that's a star, he's a star. Yeah,

479
00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,400
Speaker 2: I mean you can from how he plays the game

480
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 2: and all the recognition he's getting. But every time you

481
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 2: interview or heard an interview from the guys that he

482
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 2: played with, they talked about how personal he was to them,

483
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 2: how they love being around him. Already you heard, you know,

484
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,880
Speaker 2: not you know or send it saying that, hey, man,

485
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 2: I just love being around I just love hearing stuff

486
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 2: that he's talking about. So he's a humble young man.

487
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 2: He knows that at the end of the day. Yet

488
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,400
Speaker 2: I got here because of some of these guys right here.

489
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 2: These guys are gonna be using to get me even higher,

490
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 2: you know, when it comes to this profession. So I

491
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 2: can already see the humble guy in them, and that's

492
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 2: why he's where he's at. But that's what gets other

493
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 2: guys to follow behind you. And you the quarterback, you're

494
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 2: the head and unless you want us to if you

495
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 2: want us to move the way you want us to move,

496
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 2: that's the way to do it. You get up them

497
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,640
Speaker 2: close and you let us know you know who you are.

498
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Speaker 2: And I've seen that already just watching them for a

499
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Speaker 2: couple of days.

500
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Speaker 4: And I also think at the end of the day

501
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Speaker 4: when I go back to it, the trestaway jersey thing.

502
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Speaker 4: When he got on the podium after we had announced,

503
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Speaker 4: of course that he getting the number five, he said, Man,

504
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking Tress for letting me borrow the jersey.

505
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 4: He didn't feel like it was old to them.

506
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't.

507
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 4: Feel like, hey, I'm the number one, I'm the number two.

508
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 4: Pick I she may have any number. No, he was like, man,

509
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Speaker 4: I appreciate him, this dude to the probe in this jersey.

510
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Speaker 1: He did it.

511
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 4: I think you for letting me borrow. He didn't say,

512
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 4: he like.

513
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Speaker 1: It's acknowledging tresses like legacy, and that's exactly right. Yeah, yeah, man,

514
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: I think to your point, like the footwork was, I

515
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: was super impressed with the footwork, like that was something

516
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: they just jumped out immediately. And the thing about the

517
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: footwork that's so important is that lets you get to

518
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: everything else. And yes, so if I'm you know, working

519
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: my five step drop, I can accelerate deceller at my

520
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: feet I can take a quick hitch, get to the

521
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 1: check down. All that stuff was there, the ball placement,

522
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: the mastery of the play. I mean it was crazy

523
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: watching that that. You know, that first rookie day of practice,

524
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 1: there wasn't one ball on the ground, Like guys were

525
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,360
Speaker 1: on the same page. They knew what they were doing.

526
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 1: And for rookies to come in and execute that way

527
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Speaker 1: like usually when you watch the rookie MUNI can't see

528
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: it looks like a garbage fire. It does just because

529
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Speaker 1: they don't know what they're doing.

530
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Speaker 3: They don't know each other.

531
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right, and so for it to be

532
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: that smooth, I thought it was really impressive. But you know,

533
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Speaker 1: like Tanny you mentioned this, like Luke McCaffrey has been

534
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Speaker 1: going out to l A, I think to train with Jayden,

535
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, like they're throwing it together like they're they're

536
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: practicing together already, so they're learning each other. And I think, again,

537
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: that's that's great leadership and great initiative by our guy

538
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,239
Speaker 1: Luke McCaffrey. So another thing that took out to me

539
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Speaker 1: is when you're watching individuals like I cannot get over

540
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: our guy Cliff Kingsbury man like he is.

541
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Speaker 3: All over the place.

542
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: He is juice.

543
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Speaker 4: And I think it's because I didn't heard coaches say this.

544
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: When they start to become a head coach and they

545
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 4: have to like take care of all the kids, they

546
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 4: lose a joy that they had of coaching. And you

547
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 4: could tell he he is really enjoyed not happen to

548
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 4: be the sheriff. He's happy to say, I'm Finn Mold

549
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 4: this quarterback and this offense to my wheel. And I

550
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 4: think he's enjoying. I just get to get up every

551
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 4: day and coach. I don't have to be a politician.

552
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: I don't have to go to this function. I don't

553
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 4: have to go to dysfunction. I don't have to do

554
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 4: any of this. I could just coach football.

555
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 2: I mean, I love the energy. I love just seeing

556
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: him out there. You know, it already seemed like they

557
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: had and they kind of understand each And then if

558
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 2: you think about it, man, even even with being the

559
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: guy that he was in Arizona, you know, basically fathering

560
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: all those guys, you know what I mean, being the

561
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: head man. Think about coler success his first year, you know,

562
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 2: Rookie of the year type of success. So you can

563
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 2: only just hope that we can get that same kind

564
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: of production out of I got knowing that now he

565
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: has Kingsbury in his office every day all day, you

566
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean, he can pick his brains, he

567
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: can stay come in early, stay late, just make sure

568
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: that he give him everything he got so he can

569
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: go out there and be very productive.

570
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's you know, today was the Rota one.

571
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Speaker 1: I thought was also interesting to kind of see how

572
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 1: much offense they have in Yeah, they had a lot

573
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Speaker 1: of stuff in.

574
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: It early too. Man, I ain't never remember doing Ota

575
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: this early minute.

576
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Speaker 1: They getting Nextrarot because of the head coach.

577
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 3: You can't coach.

578
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're a little head, a little head of schedule.

579
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: But you know there's a ton of hand signals, a

580
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: ton of like kind of muddle huddles, like they can

581
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: move fast. They did some two minutes today. Like what

582
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: was your impression Today's I mean it was just sharp

583
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: and fast on the.

584
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Speaker 4: Way by the by the double selling mont set, I

585
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 4: was really talking about that real quick.

586
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: All right.

587
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 4: Well, usually when we do sell them on seven, let's

588
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 4: just say it's a it's a thirty five play for

589
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 4: they play selling on seven. The starter is gonna get

590
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 4: so many plays the second team gonna get played, and

591
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 4: the wrist of it is diving it up with whoever

592
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 4: else on the roster. And that's the way that usually

593
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 4: a guy that's trying to make the roster on to

594
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 4: get what two or three plays and the most when

595
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 4: you separated and you got the first team and second

596
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 4: team over here, in the first team and second team

597
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 4: over there, now it's like twenty twenty five rep for everybody.

598
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 4: Now as a coach, I get to really watch players

599
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 4: and get to really judge who can make this roster.

600
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 4: Not so I think it's a great thing that they

601
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 4: split the sealm on sell them up, because now everybody

602
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: get repped out, rep out, the rep out, the rep

603
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 4: out the rep and it's helping them decipher who's gonna

604
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 4: make this team.

605
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: And uh, Fred, did you make anything in ten or two?

606
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: Did you make anything of how they had kind of

607
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: the who was in the first defensive group, who was

608
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: in the first offensive group? Did I?

609
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: Did?

610
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: I did?

611
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: I think that's just the starting point. By far, this

612
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 3: ain't gonna be the head.

613
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: Just see up some context, Like Michael Davis was kind of.

614
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 4: Chisel vet been here, done that, played in a similar

615
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 4: defense as that doesn't shock me, sat But also Michael

616
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 4: Davis moving Saint Juice to the right corner. I thought

617
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 4: they kind of told me some because Saint Jus is

618
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 4: primarily a left then also coming in on the second

619
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 4: group as a manual. But he's behind Michael Davis at

620
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 4: the left corner, right, So that's telling me, all right,

621
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: they got some going over there.

622
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: We're going to make you earn this. We could easily

623
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 3: give it to you, but.

624
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 4: We're gonna make you earn this thought all right, everybody think, hey,

625
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 4: they drafted Mike Sinat, I mean might Santa Steel to

626
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 4: beat the nickel. He didn't play right a rep with

627
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 4: the first team. He was over there with the younger guy,

628
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 4: so I think they telling him, also with Kelly Blue

629
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 4: and the rest of the guy, you're gonna have to

630
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 4: earn this position.

631
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 3: We want to give it to you, but you're gonna

632
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: have to earn it.

633
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 4: So I love it because right now all coaches around

634
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 4: the league is playing Jedi mind tricks with at least

635
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 4: ten players on their team.

636
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 2: And then you got to get a feel for you know,

637
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: you know where you want guys to line up, you know,

638
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: and j I think because when I watched the wide receivers,

639
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: I saw Diami out there, you know, with the they

640
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: had three receivers in the game. They had Terry outside,

641
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 2: the Yamy outside, and they had you know, Dotson inside,

642
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: and we was talking about, you know, McCaffrey being in

643
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: the line right behind Terry. So we was like, hey,

644
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 2: we was thinking the whole time he would be he'll

645
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: be for show a slot guy and had crowd, you know,

646
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 2: Jameson going to you know, he was in the slot

647
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: full time. So it's just one of those things. Get

648
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: in the field, you know what I mean. These are

649
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: the guys that pretty much are veterans. We're going to

650
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: run the reps that we have because I'm pretty sure

651
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 2: they're going to be able to go out there full

652
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: speed and then while we're watching, you know, you never know,

653
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: things might change. But all those guys, when you have

654
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 2: that opportunity, like I'm speaking for offensive guys as a receiver,

655
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: if I'm Terry, because I was Terry for a long

656
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: time here, you're not worried about where they put you

657
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 2: at because you can know you can, you can, you

658
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: can make something happen. But those other guys be mindful

659
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: that Hey, you here, But if you feel like you

660
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 2: can contribute to the other positions, if it's not too

661
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: much for you know, what's going on, Because if somebody

662
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 2: down or somebody's not wanting to get in there because

663
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: they a little winded, I would jump right in and

664
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: show that I have that, you know capacity.

665
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 4: Did you feel like watching the first team safeties with

666
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 4: Jeremy Chen in there.

667
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 3: And and Kwan no default.

668
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's still getting healthy.

669
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: Then he was out that practice.

670
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: I know he's back, but I'm just saying that, you know.

671
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: I just think it shows, you know, like one of

672
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: the things they talked to when they came in is

673
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: just how impressed they were with Kwan. And I think

674
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: you see that, and Kwan's moving well, and I think

675
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: Jeremy Chin like his experiences background and again this is

676
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: so early. Yeah, but you know, like Jordan McGee's working

677
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: in with with the with Warner and Louvu, he's a

678
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: he had run.

679
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: Man.

680
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 2: I'm not even just keep saying it, but man, dude,

681
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: put together. I'm talking about you, straight up action figure.

682
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. And when you look at his numbers, it's like

683
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: he's he's sixty three. There's like two thirties.

684
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 4: Thirty, like, but he wearing that damn. I know that

685
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 4: he's like at nineteen's ninety wrestling. I know he he's

686
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: like the ultimate war.

687
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: Where I looked at his arms and I'm like, do

688
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: you have do you have some kind of wristbands making

689
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 2: his own? That's just him, five of them.

690
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: But he can run a little bit. He's got good

691
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: coverage instincts like that's gonna be really exciting. But yeah, again,

692
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: like the that that kind of seeing that first rotation,

693
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: I think shows you kind of some stuff that they're

694
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: as the staff got to be working through through ot as.

695
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: The offense thing was interesting. A guy that I think

696
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: stood out to me, you know, I think he's going

697
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: to stay out for the rest of camp. I'm sure

698
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: is Luke McCaffrey. Like he is excellent.

699
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: He went routes man, he went and got I told

700
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: you his dad's son. Man, come on, Like, I mean,

701
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: I didn't expect nothing other then you know, I mean

702
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: ed mcat a quarterback that's playing receive a nine time

703
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: out of the team. They know the book, they know

704
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 2: how to get to the route, they know where they

705
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: want to be at when the ball is you know,

706
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to think about a quarterback, so

707
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: he know, lifer the football line, doing his thing for

708
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: so long, been in locker room all his life.

709
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: And then I think that, but those players were great.

710
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: You kind of post stretch up over the top of.

711
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: That, and it was a really nice to go get.

712
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: It was to say, it's really nice play because the

713
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: ball was slightly overthrown and he kind of he does

714
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: this thing which I love. Really good receivers can do.

715
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 1: It is they dig, they stay relaxed, and they can

716
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: kind of find that extra gear track and adjust the ball.

717
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: And he did a great job of that. But the

718
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: most impressive play for me today was something that informed

719
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: his character. So Oz caught the ball, you know, Kis

720
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: caught the BA underneath. He was on the far side

721
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: of the field and literally you would have thought this

722
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: guy was running forty yard dash, sprinted all the way

723
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: across the formation, made him and ripped across the safety's

724
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: face to get the touchdown block. Yeah, and I just

725
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: thought there's a guy, you said, Fred, I was like, man,

726
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: that guy is every second he's on the field is

727
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: full pedals of the guests.

728
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: Once you hit the grays, we are running.

729
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

730
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: And walk.

731
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: That showed you the character they trying to bring into

732
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: this room, you know, and bring it to this team.

733
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: They want guys that's gonna hustle. They want guys because

734
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: you're thinking about it. And when you watch those San

735
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: Fran players out there, they weren't just catching the ball

736
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: and getting yards. They was getting yacked because of the

737
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: contributions of the other guys out there blocking down field

738
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: for him. So you know, that's amazing.

739
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was also great to see Zach out there.

740
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: Zach Hurts made a couple of nice catches, made a

741
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: nice catch in two minutes and then.

742
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 4: And anybody that think he was a broke down truck

743
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 4: when we signed him, No, he looks healthy.

744
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: He looks healthy and he's got that and it's it's

745
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: hard to explain because you know, Zach, I don't think

746
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: he ran a fast forty eight at the comment. It

747
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: was like a four to seven eight something like that.

748
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: He understands leverages, he understands angles, he understands how to

749
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: double stick to break leverages, and he just does a

750
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: really nice job of consistently doing He.

751
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 4: Uses your leg leverage against you once he identifies what

752
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 4: covered you in he knows the dead spot. And if

753
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: he understand that you and man, he gonna put you

754
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: in the trail position. He can put you in a

755
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: trail position and slow up and miss you up. Like

756
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 4: the great tight Ends don't need to run for four forties.

757
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 4: They don't They need to know how to maneuver, and

758
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 4: they don't need to have to manipulate coverages to what.

759
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: They're going to do.

760
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: Just find a sweet spot, tight ends all for all

761
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: of us I play football. Man, he's just been great

762
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: at find a sweet spots. Cooley could have run and

763
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: save his life. But Cooley was always over to you

764
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Always tell you.

765
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: Who gave me us head every year? He couldn't outrun

766
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 4: a grandma in the mall. Jason Will Jason Winn stayed open.

767
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 4: I don't think I ever seen him coming.

768
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: I guess what.

769
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: Jason Wind cannot run all right, So that what made

770
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: him that when he got into the end of his career,

771
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 4: you didn't know if he was slowing down or not

772
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: because he was never fana No.

773
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: I think that's and he just the guy that understood

774
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: the kind of same stuff good good and out of

775
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: his breaks, leverage his angle stems. Awesome job. And then

776
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: our guy Emmanuel Forbes had a couple of nice pvus

777
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: today with the second group and saw some man.

778
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: I saw that that pick by who got to pick

779
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: fifty seven? Whitman. Yeah, Pittman caught a nice ball. He

780
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: had a nice one. They was flying around. Man, it's

781
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: great to the city's guts. I mean the energy you

782
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: can outdate out the gate. That's different. Yeah, you know

783
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: you can see that.

784
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: Ones out the twos running on and off the field.

785
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: You can tell the difference.

786
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: And I just love like you talked about We talked

787
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: about Cliff, but like Joe Whitt like he's in there,

788
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: he's standing right behind the office and he's like he's

789
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: like almost like speaking in tongues. He's like, hey, keep

790
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: that leverage, you know, keep that leverage. We just think, hey,

791
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: what is it? Two by two? Three by one?

792
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: Help we both to hit that ball? Yeah, we both

793
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: got that.

794
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: He is juiced up, man, He's he's got a standard

795
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: that he's trying to abide by as well. And you

796
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: know McGee had this tackle on the fight. He's like,

797
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: leverage tackle, leverage tackle inside it. But he's like there

798
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: we go, you know, what I mean, He's.

799
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: Got him walking out the hood. Oh no, back in

800
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: a little back like, yeah, I love that smile thing.

801
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: Great deal. And then you know, Jane Daniels obviously got

802
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: to talk about him. He was in the other group

803
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: of seven on seven, like kind of farther away from

804
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 1: where we were, but you see some of like what

805
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: makes him special. And what I mean by that is

806
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: like he loves throwing that deep ball. He threw one

807
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: to h Rice and Tremaine who had a really solid day,

808
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: had a good day at the Rookie Minnie camp. Guy

809
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: that I think is keep an eye on him.

810
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's He's the guy that showed up a little bit.

811
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: He's six four and a half, he's two fifteen, two twenty.

812
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: He's big.

813
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: He's hard to miss too.

814
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know eight nine baby, So throw a deep

815
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 1: ball to him. Threw a deep ball to him, threw

816
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: a couple of digs in the middle field, and then

817
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: threw through two deep balls to Dax Mill and then

818
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Dax Mill made a great catch on the sideline there

819
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: and then had a couple of nights. Again, the timing

820
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: of him, I've been really impressed with that. I'm talking

821
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: about Jaden. This his ability to be on time with stuff.

822
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: Just comfortability, like he could easily came in here over

823
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: anxies and overthrew a couple of bars.

824
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: It's no, no, no, I'm ready.

825
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: And he's gonna he's and he's gonna have a rough

826
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: day at some point.

827
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, I want to see the rough day,

828
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: and because I want to see the next day, Like

829
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: I don't care about your people.

830
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: The worst thing can happen to It's about responding.

831
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: Man.

832
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 4: If if he comes here and it's easy, Like if

833
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: it seems easy, then.

834
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: You're not getting better and you ain't been humble.

835
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So, Yeah, we're gonna keep watching these practices,

836
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: gonna keep kind of keeping you guys updated. Right now,

837
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: we're really excited. Just wanted to give you kind of

838
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: some background on some stuff we noticed today, some rep

839
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And again that's gonna change, but you know,

840
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: it's it's an exciting opportunity. And again we didn't talk

841
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: about any of the offensive linemen defensive lineman. Really yeah,

842
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: because they don't. It's it's a passing game.

843
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they was in a way room.

844
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: I'll watched it, so they do they do their Indy

845
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: and then right when they get to seven on seven.

846
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: Teven, they come up and they still at the Powerhouse.

847
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, which which I think is important.

848
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: You know, special food got that did bench press two

849
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: one time.

850
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: One time.

851
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: That's how you need to open a do one time.

852
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: All right. So the next big event we got coming

853
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: up is the schedule release, and that is we're having

854
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: a show. I think we're going to preview that at

855
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: some point this week. Jason, what day is that?

856
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 5: Tomorrow?

857
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: Tomorrow? We're doing that, Okay, so make sure you tune

858
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: into that. We're really excited about that. But in the meantime,

859
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: we're going to preview that, and we're excited to preview it.

860
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: And so the first question on my sheet here is

861
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: is there a game on this schedule that needs to

862
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: be the first home game. So I'm going to read

863
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: some off to you real quick. We got Philly home,

864
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: Dallas home, New York Giants home, Chicago Bears home, Cleveland

865
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: Brown's home, Pittsburgh Steelers home, the Atlanta Falcons. That's an

866
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: interesting one. Tennessee Titans and the Carolina.

867
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: One versus two?

868
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: Is that what you want?

869
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: Jada and Kayleb come back to d c is where

870
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: you're from, and what the Chicago treat last year on

871
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: Thursday night football we on, Yeah, that would be that

872
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: would be the That would be the the game to

873
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: start this thing off, right.

874
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: I want to against the Wolf of Wall Street aka

875
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: Kirk Cuts.

876
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 4: I mean in Atlanta, they come in here and you

877
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 4: notice my ex wife team too, so you know it's

878
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: tension right there.

879
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: When we went through a divorce.

880
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 4: On the way out, she was like, by the way,

881
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: I've been a Falcon fan the whole time. I'm like, oh,

882
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: so at the end of the day, that's a double reversion, dude,

883
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 4: from like I said, you got the Wolf of Wall

884
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 4: Street Kirk Cousins coming back to the team that paid

885
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 4: them first, and now this team that just paid them

886
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 4: when it got him a step brother.

887
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: This it right behind.

888
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 4: So it's a little tension boiling right there. So I

889
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 4: just want to welcome Kirk back to FedEx Field.

890
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: This is commanding field now it won't be FedEx.

891
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: Excuse me, to the command in the command field.

892
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: Commander's field, whatever we're calling it. I totally agree. Pardon me.

893
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: Wants to see the Caleb Jalen thing like our Jaden thing.

894
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: Later in the season. We both and they're like rolling.

895
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: A little gate give it to him right now again.

896
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: I like to see it. Obviously, I'm gonna watch that game. God,

897
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: I just I want to see like where they're at,

898
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: like week eight, week nine.

899
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: And already took some bromps and bruises the Falcons.

900
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: One. I think is really interesting getting Kirk back in

901
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: the hometown, see how the fans receive him. And then

902
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, Pittsburgh seems interesting to me because of

903
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks.

904
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: Say we hate Pittsburgh, and I would will to see

905
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh early because this when that's when the politician Russell

906
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: Wilson will.

907
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 3: Be starting, because I think after like week six, it's

908
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: gonna be the gist.

909
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 2: And Fields so called him man politician, Man, have you met.

910
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: I heard him?

911
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 3: If he is the most definitely.

912
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 4: Like that wasn't some good dude that't trust nothing.

913
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: He's saying, I knew what you heard?

914
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: Did you knew you were getting that?

915
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: I wanted to hear what you really had to say.

916
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: No, but I really want to see this.

917
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: Duoy said you said water to well?

918
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: He talking talking ZRay striped. If you sit there, listen

919
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: to me.

920
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 4: This dude one of the He's a good dude inside,

921
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 4: but you know how you mean a preacher and you'd.

922
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: Be like, hey, this preacher, right, I can tell a

923
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: little bit. I'm dancing here like a brook Let. They

924
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: rolled him all the way out to Pittsburgh.

925
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 4: You know, the room got quiet when he said that

926
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 4: the first time and.

927
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: Crickets, let's ride where we never heard that before.

928
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: But you know what, the thing, the thing that bothers

929
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: me about that, just knowing like how much that meant

930
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: to him. He wanted that slogan to stick and to

931
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: mean something and like not no, not only stick, but

932
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: have something stick the right way. Make her have a

933
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: nice season, you know what I mean, And you can

934
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: be like Bronco ride. It just went the wrong way

935
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: for him. So that's why I knew what you were

936
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: trying to hear it.

937
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: I wanted to know it's Bronco has horseshoes. You're gonna

938
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: give it, bro listen, SI Justin Fields will be the start.

939
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't think so, I don't really

940
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 2: think so. I mean, I'm gonna be real with your man.

941
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: I love the the things I seen from Justine. You know,

942
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: when you know when he about what he did. You

943
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: can see that. You can see when you kind of

944
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: just allow him to, you know, do what he do.

945
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: But I just think I really would like to see

946
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm just saying me personally, I want to see your boy.

947
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: Russell have a saving set.

948
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: I want to see him saving. I mean, I like

949
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: Russell and you can talk about the politician and them

950
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: and everything. I think he's a great player. I think

951
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: he's a guy that get behind the coach, that got

952
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: over there, and now he run things. You'll see a

953
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: rush that kind of we saw over there in Seattle.

954
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: See.

955
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: I think it's about the coaching style.

956
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 4: I played for Mike Tumlin in Minnesota. He was our

957
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator. We had a top three defense that year

958
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 4: he got that job. The one thing I know about

959
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: Mike Tumley, whatever comes out of his mouth, that's how

960
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 4: he really feels.

961
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 3: He's authentic.

962
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: He will bench you as a player, and like he say,

963
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 4: we don't do starters for the year. We do starters

964
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: for games, meaning you can't start the whole year if

965
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 4: you on your a game.

966
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: But I'm telling.

967
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 4: You, I don't think Russell does well under the type

968
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: of circumstances where things are not guaranteed, But.

969
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: No, I think I think just with the with the

970
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: leadership from that coach, it's going to give him the stability.

971
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 3: This coach actually won't know.

972
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: Him too. They're gonna play defense, gonna run. Arthur Smith, likest.

973
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 4: Aught the like things to be done on schedule, and

974
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: Russell is an off schedule.

975
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

976
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: One of the things that I think really interesting is

977
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: if you were to have a quarterback run system that

978
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: coincided with the run game that they had like in Atlanta,

979
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: Because we're alwaysking about what if Justin Fields goes to

980
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith.

981
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: We thought it was gonna be the truth and party.

982
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: Is like, that would be pretty sick having a guy that.

983
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: Can Now you have a gold line package.

984
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: All right, So next question, which game needs to be

985
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: in prime time? So obviously I just read the home matchups.

986
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: The away matchups are Baltimore Bengals, UH, Tampa Bay, UH

987
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: New Orleans and Arizona.

988
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: But well, I'm sure we're gonna I'm sure one of

989
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 2: those those NFC East games gonna be big prim tags.

990
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 2: I can see us Philly gonna be in a PRAM.

991
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: Obviously, Like I think, so, okay, I should have made

992
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: that clear we're not obviously.

993
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 3: Don't worry about the invit Yeah, like.

994
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: In the in the in the division, because those are

995
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: always big games.

996
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: So the next prime time game, I can see Baltimore,

997
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

998
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: Battle party, that'd be That'd be kind of sick though,

999
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: to see like both.

1000
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: Of these guys.

1001
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, guess what he Jayden was compared to this deal

1002
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 4: to see them on the same field but in different offenses.

1003
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: I think that's the whole thing being used a little

1004
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: bit different. I say the better of the bet.

1005
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: With Burrow too. I mean, you could easily be a prime.

1006
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 4: Time I'm saying beat out of the bed way because

1007
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: now it's actually a battle.

1008
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: Like they had the quarterback advantage a long time I

1009
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: was young.

1010
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: The team is that seems so good though.

1011
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they got they got King Henry over there

1012
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: right now, So they got lighting and thun.

1013
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: They got a three hundred and twenty pounds full back

1014
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: and a two hundred and fifty pound running back. Somebody

1015
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: get hurt, and so think about this, their right tackle

1016
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: and their right guard. The right tackle weighs three hundred

1017
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: and ninety pounds, the right guard weighs three seventy five.

1018
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: Like they just have it's just like a that's like.

1019
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 4: You gotta be the biggest screwp buffet that never goes away.

1020
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: That's a lot of trying to play over there.

1021
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: They trying to play.

1022
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 4: They want to put your line and put your hand

1023
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: in and let's see the best man win because recard man.

1024
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 3: People Don'tdertandy want to trade. Patrick coming riding at full

1025
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: back and three hundred.

1026
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 4: Path and he pops down, no no, and he can

1027
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: track DB's he get his hands on you.

1028
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: It's over.

1029
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. It reminds me a little bit of like Mike

1030
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: Sellers with Mike Sellers.

1031
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 4: Mos definitely in I want to say this to people.

1032
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: I talked to Big Mike Seller's facetied him me and

1033
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: Rock cott Wright two nights ago. The big boy is

1034
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 4: doing well. He says he's feeling good.

1035
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: He was up, he's joking, he's walking around.

1036
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 4: Thank Lord, say one hour, Commanders, Mike Sellers is doing well.

1037
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 3: Definitely, that's awesome.

1038
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, so I think Baltimore is kind of

1039
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: one than six outs mentioned Pittsburgh already. The Falcons game

1040
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: in prime time would be awesome, you know the wolf, Yeah,

1041
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: that would be pretty sick. And then I want to

1042
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: see the Caleb Williams, Jason I Wrigg back.

1043
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: But I want to say afraid a little bit of

1044
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: the Cowboys.

1045
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: I mean that the Chicago team, because I think a

1046
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 4: rookie quarterback has ever walked.

1047
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: Into a team ready built like this.

1048
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

1049
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 4: They leave there with Roma dooms dig and they already

1050
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 4: got DJ Moore, Like this is getting out different than

1051
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 4: any rookie.

1052
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: I think.

1053
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 4: Now the Scribe had a good team, but we didn't

1054
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: know tank deal with was gonna be good.

1055
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: But we didn't know it.

1056
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that good.

1057
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, So again, all those would be fun to see

1058
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: in prime time. And then what's a sneaky good matchup

1059
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: that you guys like it? Man, sneaky good.

1060
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 4: I think sneaky good is the Cincinnati Bengals. I think

1061
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Bengals. Everybody forget them every time Joe get hurt.

1062
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 4: Every time Joe hurt, they're not but Joe gon heal

1063
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: and Joe has here and Joe won't respect Joe.

1064
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: Did you see that thing? Again? This is on Instagram?

1065
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know how realists having't fact just this,

1066
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: but that the injury that he had might like long term,

1067
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: affect his ability to grip a football. You got to

1068
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: see that.

1069
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: I did not see.

1070
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I saw. I don't know, I got it,

1071
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: don't don't. I'm not reporting it is that is just

1072
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: throwing go get it. I think a sneak.

1073
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: A good matchup is Cleveland Browns too. I don't forget

1074
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: about those.

1075
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: I mean I just saw.

1076
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: I just saw running the other day, and I mean

1077
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: he might not be ready to.

1078
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 3: Take long to get back. And I'm sorry. The Shun

1079
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: watches just don't look like the Shun watching no more.

1080
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: And I think it has a lot to do with

1081
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 4: it's hard for him to focus being like the villain,

1082
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 4: like some people excel being the villain.

1083
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 2: But I've seen his reception in different in different places,

1084
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: he'd been received well different places.

1085
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: I mean, don't play because I think some players kind

1086
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 4: of like play through the energy that they feel.

1087
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: And to me, he.

1088
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: Ain't happy when I used to watch him play.

1089
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: I just think it's longer. It takes longer than what

1090
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: we expect him to come out there and just to

1091
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: be himself again, Like it takes more than a year,

1092
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, don't get me wrong,

1093
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: He's been sitting out for what two years. Did he

1094
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: play last year then he end up getting hurt. I

1095
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: thought last year should have been a year where he

1096
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: just you know, find a way to get on the field,

1097
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: stay healthy and be out there the whole sixteen eight

1098
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: I mean seventeen weeks and then this year we would

1099
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: have saw something different. So hopefully, yeah, you know, even

1100
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: though you know him having another setback being hurt last year,

1101
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: I hope he can kind of like be a little

1102
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: bit of himself. But they playing that so I don't

1103
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: want to see I don't want to see him being

1104
00:44:58,680 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: nowhere near.

1105
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of our preview to the schedule

1106
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: release which comes out tomorrow. We're really excited to kind

1107
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: of talk about that in more detail. That's just kind

1108
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: of our first high level thoughts. But that leads us

1109
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: to our newest segment, and that's what we call that,

1110
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: the mail bag, the mailman segment.

1111
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: The mail will be delivered.

1112
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: And so we got a couple We got an email

1113
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: from Andre right, Jason, Yeah, this is from Andre.

1114
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 5: I'll be Andre for you and wrote along email email,

1115
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 5: I should know I have our time round. Yeah, he

1116
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 5: sent us an email tougher than you that hawk outside

1117
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 5: Gmail dot com right, all right, So here's what he said, guys.

1118
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 5: He said, all right, first, thank you for creating content

1119
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 5: that is easily accessible to those who are out of

1120
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 5: town and need to stay connected. I'm in the Army

1121
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 5: in active duty, so I don't get to come.

1122
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: Home very thank you for your service. Thanks you.

1123
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 5: In fact, I'm heading to Korea this summer, the fourth

1124
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 5: time in nine years. You can't get much further than

1125
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 5: seven thousand miles away from home, so to get a

1126
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 5: little slice of the district from you all every week

1127
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 5: is precious. If I could only get some chicken wings

1128
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 5: mambo sauce on.

1129
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 4: Game they out, well, tell him I will gladly send

1130
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 4: him mumbo sauce. I can't send the chicken sure, the

1131
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: Korean wing is good. We can send you the mumbo sauce.

1132
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: So you have that, Andre, I can do that. I

1133
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 4: got something in my house, just got a no case

1134
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 4: of it. My kids love mumbo sauce. They put it

1135
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: on everything.

1136
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: I've never had mumbo sauce spicy.

1137
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: Don't you ever repeat that again?

1138
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: Is it spicy?

1139
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 3: No, it's sweet meat, spicy meat, savory. Think about ketchup.

1140
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: It's eaten by zeus.

1141
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: It's almost like if you ever had you have you

1142
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: ever had the Taie Asian sauce.

1143
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that.

1144
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: It's similar.

1145
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, really has a sweet sauce.

1146
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring you some mumbo sauce.

1147
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 5: Yes, I hope you get crushed in the comments you are.

1148
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't eat a lot of junk food.

1149
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you probably eat his mumbo or

1150
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 4: some like its cargo, or some snails or something that's

1151
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 4: not that's like that's drowned butter.

1152
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: There's no way fancy I do U. Yeah, I put

1153
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: it on my little mash that I make. If I

1154
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: told you want to eat for dinner pretty much every.

1155
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 3: Night, I know you eat like a pison. You probably porch.

1156
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: It's a white rice, ground beef, a pounder ground beef,

1157
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: sauteed spinach and maple syrup on there.

1158
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 3: Perch.

1159
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: Por it's pretty good though.

1160
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 4: They was eating a sixteen o three in wiscons what't

1161
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: he talking about this?

1162
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: Dude? He looked at me like, yeah, ain't a great Meala, No, you.

1163
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: Should try something. I bet you have. You go with

1164
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: some mumbo sauce.

1165
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: Town to be a DC proud while you gulash.

1166
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: Well here's a question. Here's a question.

1167
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 5: Andre wants to know. This is the topic here because

1168
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 5: he's away, he doesn't know what we got one right,

1169
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 5: You want to know is there any buzz or fear

1170
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 5: from other teams in our division when it comes to

1171
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 5: the prospect of facing a dual threat QB here in Washington.

1172
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 5: I don't think the n if NFC East has had

1173
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 5: this problem since RG three and twenty twelve. What are

1174
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: news outlets Saints.

1175
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: So at this time of year? Because he so preliminary,

1176
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of conversation.

1177
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: They only worry about their team.

1178
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of their team, a lot of local media.

1179
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: And again, like we're very fortunate we have access to

1180
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: watch practice. We just reviewed that for you, Andre, And

1181
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: one of the things is we can't see other people's practices,

1182
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: so they don't know. So all we're getting a secondhand.

1183
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: But we did find some quotes from some different news organizations.

1184
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 4: I could also say this, Dre, we know this before

1185
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 4: down gets played.

1186
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: This year, we got at least the third best quarterback.

1187
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: In the division.

1188
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 4: All right, let's be honest, all right, we know that

1189
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 4: when that guy played a snap, all right, we know

1190
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: we don't want Daniel Jones.

1191
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: We know that legit, be honest, Ray.

1192
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: It's the beauty of Dane Jones.

1193
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: Be good.

1194
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 4: He's always good against us, let's get that correct. But

1195
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 4: he shows us who Daniel Jones.

1196
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: Years ago, that same Dany Jones took him to the

1197
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: playoff and won a game.

1198
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 3: And he threw for like thirty one hundred. He did nothing.

1199
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: He was good enough to be.

1200
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: He fools it to you.

1201
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: He swindle deal.

1202
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 4: You know how players can have it one year tween

1203
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 4: got the country.

1204
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: I pray, I don't.

1205
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: Really contract you a house, never.

1206
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: Comin.

1207
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 4: I just seen do change everything, get that check and

1208
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: then never see he.

1209
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: I was also going to say that playoff win was

1210
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: more of a Dexter Lawrence thing is then you have

1211
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: like twelve pressures that game like he basically basically like.

1212
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 3: Listen, you can't get no more regular lited.

1213
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: And not a good quarterback to move on. Okay, So

1214
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: so Jason, we got uh so, we got some comments

1215
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: from who we got from.

1216
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 5: I did a little bit of research to try and

1217
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 5: find something.

1218
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: But basically there's the point is there's not a lot.

1219
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 3: It's not a lot. Nobody's willing to hate this early

1220
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: but me yeah, there's nothing.

1221
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 5: From team accounts, kind of like what we do. But

1222
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 5: there was this dude, Victor Williams won the Philly Pod.

1223
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 5: I assume that's a lesser pod than this one, but

1224
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 5: he tweeted out, uh, don't get too comfy, Jaden Daniels,

1225
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 5: and it was the clip of Jalen Carter from the

1226
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 5: Georgia LSU game in twenty twenty two. Yeah comes up

1227
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 5: and uh and so he's he's talking some trash out there,

1228
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 5: but Jane and Daniels had a quote about that. His

1229
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 5: quote was, Hey, Jalen Carter, he's a great player. I

1230
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 5: mean he got underneath me. I had a bum ankle,

1231
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 5: so I wasn't gonna do anything here. Yeah, but you

1232
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 5: know he's a great player.

1233
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, but it's football. You take one. Take one

1234
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: play that this guy has my number is like kind

1235
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 2: of not really everybody get Scott one.

1236
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Victor Williams, Like you got all damn football, Victor.

1237
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 4: We know something about you, probably caring Chris go in

1238
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 4: your pocketing case y'all win a championship so you could

1239
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: slide down a pole. We ain't worried about all that.

1240
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 4: We ain't here to start, no drum. What we're gonna

1241
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: do is we're gonna worry about washing.

1242
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all getting like. That's not a really super

1243
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: informed take by Victor Williams. You know, he's looking at

1244
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: a clip and he's saying, look at this one time,

1245
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I think Jane and that's in

1246
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and Jane Daniels is a significantly better

1247
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: football players.

1248
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: It also was.

1249
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 5: True he had a bum ankle. He came out before

1250
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 5: halftime of that game. He came he was on pace

1251
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 5: to throw four hundred yards that game. So I don't know,

1252
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 5: probably didn't like that, all right, So yeah, the Cowboys, right?

1253
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 3: Uh T C.

1254
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 5: Deckard from blogging on the Boys, all right, he actually

1255
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 5: was very high on Jayde and Daniels. He gave a

1256
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 5: little praise. So I'm just going to read a short

1257
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 5: bit of this. He says, instead of others pointing out

1258
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 5: Daniels had excellent wide receivers, they should point out that

1259
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 5: he's the work he's put in each and every day

1260
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 5: to become a top quarterback prospect. Unlike some quarterbacks, Daniels

1261
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 5: didn't enter the season as a surefire draft pick. He

1262
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 5: earned it and now he's bringing that to Washington, So

1263
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 5: a little respect from the cowboy.

1264
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 4: So you don't like that, you'll you heard it from

1265
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 4: old Dallas, from the place. But I'm glad somebody is

1266
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 4: looking at it through clear eyes and clear visions. All Right, Dallas, we.

1267
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 3: Gave you the last twenty years to do what you

1268
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: were gonna do. Now it's our time.

1269
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: No, I'm just I'm happy, just for the safe for

1270
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: the sake of We talked about this pre draft man,

1271
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: just like, how is it that I'm getting better and

1272
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 2: you're putting that against me?

1273
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1274
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, last time I heard Joe Burrow transferred

1275
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: and had two first round draft picks their receivers. You

1276
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, two receives in the league. And

1277
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 2: exactly so I'm saying to myself, you can't. It's not

1278
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: an indictment on me that I got better and I

1279
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: had guys that I got them better. Also, I mean,

1280
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: they couldn't do it without me, so we did it together,

1281
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So yeah, I'm happy that

1282
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: he was able to acknowledge that because I do believe

1283
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: that you can't fought Jayden Daines for winning the Heisman. Yeah,

1284
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 2: it was foughting for being a hideman player.

1285
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: And what I will say, as I do think teams

1286
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: you worry about doing threat quarterbacks. That's why I think

1287
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: the Washington Canti is one of the reasons that they

1288
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: end up drafting them, right, because defensively limits what you

1289
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: can do.

1290
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: I finish say, it ties us down, exposes all the cracks.

1291
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: So I think even though they might not be expressing

1292
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: certain I know if if I was the DC for Dallas,

1293
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: if I was the DC for Philly, I'm like, I'm like, dang,

1294
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: like now this because become a little bit more complicated

1295
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: in terms of how they're prepping. And also we got

1296
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 1: to see what cliffs how Clif's gonna use them. But

1297
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: those legs, man.

1298
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: Those legs make us have to play what we call honest.

1299
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 3: We can't cheat.

1300
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 4: I can't cheat you on certain blitzes and I can't

1301
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 4: cheat you and play two men under I can't cheat you.

1302
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 4: We can only play defenses that all eleven us quarterback.

1303
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: So now guess what. It shrinks your playbook. And this

1304
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 4: ain't gonna happen one week. Yeah, yeah, Now it might

1305
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 4: be a coordinator like I'm just gonna run what I

1306
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 4: run and time them DB's turning his back. Number five

1307
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 4: gonna be running right beside. They ain't gonna even know it,

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Speaker 4: So it shrinks the playbook.

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Speaker 3: I must say that.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, it's cool that he made

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Speaker 1: the reference to Robert in twenty twelve because ten of

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Speaker 1: you and I were both here obviously, and I remember

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Speaker 1: playing each week and we would see eight man box

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Speaker 1: Cover three every single week. Every week that's what we saw.

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Speaker 2: And then we were getting off on the house because

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Speaker 2: guess what, y'all don't have to play no play like

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Speaker 2: whenever it was open last week, gon be open this week?

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Speaker 2: You lining up guys that damn we just me and

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Speaker 2: Pierre and the boy. We looking at HL like boy

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Speaker 2: we eat and you did mean throw it up?

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Speaker 3: And the dB over there like, man, I'm so tired

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Speaker 3: over three. I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 4: But he understands we can only play cover three a

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Speaker 4: couple four to stop them to day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the other thing I'd point to

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Speaker 1: is that, like, I think Robert was really good in

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve, right, I think one rookie of the year.

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Speaker 1: But I think and this is just you know, I've

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Speaker 1: watched I went back and watched him Robert Griffrom the

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Speaker 1: third tape because everyone was making the comp and I

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Speaker 1: will say, Jaye Daniels at this point in his career,

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Speaker 1: that pass is a much better passer. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's gonna again that lays like raises the floor

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Speaker 1: of the offense. Couple that with the simplification of defenses.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things that people in

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Speaker 1: the division need to be concerned about because I think

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a heck of a ball player.

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Speaker 1: And again, we've only seen two practices, but he's already

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Speaker 1: kind of checking some of those boxes, which is pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's going to do it for today's show. Guys,

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Speaker 1: And that's it.

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Speaker 3: It how gap G made up that cup?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, check it out. The views and opinions expressed by

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