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Speaker 4: I refuse to let my in laws take my daughter

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Speaker 4: for Christmas. Now they're suing for custody. How are you.

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Speaker 1: Gonna get the law involved with my daughter?

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Speaker 4: Grandparent laws? Dude?

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Speaker 1: Grandparent law is a lie. It depending on what.

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Speaker 4: State you're in. I thirty female, am the single mother

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Speaker 4: of Clara to female. My pregnancy wasn't planned. I had

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Speaker 4: no strings attached relationship with her father, Jack thirty mail

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Speaker 4: for seven months when I became pregnant unexpectedly. By the way,

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 4: He lived in another state but would visit my city

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Speaker 4: monthly for business reasons, and we hit it off after

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Speaker 4: meeting in a bar. We thought about our options regarding

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Speaker 4: the pregnancy, but I decided to keep the baby. Jack

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Speaker 4: wanted to be a part of her life, so we

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Speaker 4: planned to raise the baby together, but not a couple,

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Speaker 4: just co parents. Unfortunately, Jack passed away during my pregnancy.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, that's wow, that's crazy. Jack's parents, Linda and James,

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Speaker 4: knew that I was pregnant when he passed. We had

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Speaker 4: already done a perenity test at the time. We were

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Speaker 4: all devastated by his passing, but of course his parents

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Speaker 4: were destroyed by it. Clara is their first and only grandchild,

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Speaker 4: and she's become their beacon of light in a dark time.

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Speaker 6: As they say, ooh, there's no way this is going

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Speaker 6: to end with them trying to take your.

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Speaker 4: Daughter away from you. Yeah, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: Yikes, why how how do we get there?

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Speaker 4: Let's find out they have other two daughters, Ruth thirty

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Speaker 4: seven female and Lily twenty seven female, but they don't

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Speaker 4: have children. Ruth is trying to conceive for a long

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Speaker 4: time with their husband, and Lily is child free and single.

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Speaker 4: Jack's whole family lives in another state, with the exception

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Speaker 4: of Lily that lives abroad. They have family business, so

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Speaker 4: their life is there, while I have my family and

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Speaker 4: career in my current city where I live with Clara.

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Speaker 4: Since Clara was or, we have an agreement, nothing legal,

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Speaker 4: but we've all agreed with visitation for her grandparents and aunts.

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Speaker 4: They usually visit Clara twice a month. James and Linda

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Speaker 4: are the ones that visit the most, but Ruth also

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Speaker 4: shows up sometimes. I really appreciate their presence on her life.

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Speaker 4: Since the beginning, a point of contention in our relationship

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Speaker 4: was traveling with Clara to their seat. Oh my gosh, guys,

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Speaker 4: lock in, dude, huh, lock in. Get the lock here.

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Speaker 4: I got the lock right here. I got it, I

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Speaker 4: got it out. Lock it, lock in, turn the key.

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Speaker 4: Since the beginning, a point of contention in our relationship

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Speaker 4: was traveling with Clara to their stay. They have a

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Speaker 4: big property that's in their family for over one hundred

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Speaker 4: years and have a family business too. In their small town,

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Speaker 4: they are treated as almost royalty and wanted Clara to

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Speaker 4: experience that. I understand that it's good for my daughter

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Speaker 4: to know her heritage, but I also put my foot

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Speaker 4: down on the idea of their traveling with her without me.

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Speaker 4: I already visit their hometown three times with Clara since

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Speaker 4: she was born, but this isn't enough. Apparently our relationship

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Speaker 4: wasn't perfect. I had some issues with Linda meddling way

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Speaker 4: too much on my parenting but we were civil until

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Speaker 4: I started my current relationship. I've been dating Ted thirty four,

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Speaker 4: male for almost a year, and things are tense with

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Speaker 4: he has a daughter, Marie, four female, that lives with him.

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Speaker 4: Linda has expressed disapproval to his constant presence in my house,

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Speaker 4: which is not true. Both of us work a lot

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Speaker 4: to Marie having play dates and sleepovers with Clara, and

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Speaker 4: the list goes on. The woman will find a way

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Speaker 4: to comment something even about Ted's car parked in front

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Speaker 6: Jack goodness gracious and that that was his name, right, yep,

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Speaker 6: Jack Jack Jack or Jack and aunt Jack.

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Speaker 6: Families like this are a nightmare to deal with. The

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Speaker 1: I've been here for a hundred when beers are.

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Speaker 6: More dude, come on, come on, it's did you have

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Speaker 4: I guess my family is like that. Were I not

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Speaker 6: More like a legacy family. You're not like the lords

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Speaker 6: thinking about stuff. Oh yeah, I'm thinking about the other like.

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Speaker 4: Sawmill in our county, and they kind of are like that,

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Speaker 4: Like they got sponsorship with the high school football team

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Speaker 6: You're like the everyman saw Mill and they're like the

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Speaker 6: elitist and the family boy saw Mill. Yeah, Loki, Loki, Yeah, yeah, dude,

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Speaker 6: I'm glad you're not from the pretty boy saw mill.

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Speaker 4: Right. No, yeah, no, Like one time I went there

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Speaker 4: to get something and they overcharged me and also didn't

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Speaker 1: Oh bad service, bad bad prices, bad service.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dude you Anyways, things escalated when two weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: I got an email Linda, James and Ruth an invite

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Speaker 4: for Christmas Eve. Ted and I will have a get

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Speaker 4: together with our families and close friends. I decided to

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Speaker 4: invite Clara's grandparents so they can extend Christmas Eve with her,

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Speaker 4: but I also let them know that if they prefer,

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Speaker 4: next day, Linda texted me that they already had plans

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Speaker 4: to take Clara to their home on Christmas I said

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Speaker 4: this was not happening. I didn't hear anything from her

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Speaker 4: for about two days. Lenda called me stating that she

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Speaker 4: gave me two days to cool off and to be reasonable.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 4: Best thing to tell someone, calm down, cool off.

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Speaker 2: This is her daughter.

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Speaker 4: Be reasonable about her.

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Speaker 6: You just made an executive decision about what her daughter's

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Speaker 4: But like, that's her grandchild. Yeah, you're not the mom.

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Speaker 4: It's a consultation at the very least. I asked what

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Speaker 4: without me. I said that that was never discussed and

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Speaker 4: I will not let them travel with my daughter without

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Speaker 4: discussing with me before. Linda said this was the discussion

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Speaker 4: that she was delusional.

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Speaker 6: Oh is she trying to say that they discussed it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they probably were making stuff up. Have zero receipts,

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Speaker 4: show bow, they have zero rights. This is crazy.

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Speaker 6: I mean, why, Look, it's like, clearly, like the father

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Speaker 4: They're only grandkids. This is their grandkid, the only grandchilder

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean yeah, theoretically they could have a very positive,

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Speaker 6: trying to just be like, nope, we have the rights

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Speaker 6: not how you communicate as a person, but that tracks

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Speaker 6: for that. Our family's been here for one hundred years

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Speaker 6: and blah blah blah. It's like that's just how these

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Speaker 4: So this is what's going to happen. Mm hm, dude,

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Speaker 4: low key. I'm grateful for my cousin having kids because

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Speaker 4: once my grandparents had a great Grandberry the baby. And

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Speaker 4: and all April because she's having a second kid.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, well, congratulations, thank you for them. I'm not

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Speaker 6: right and another another little Wilson running around bumgarner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah whatever, or I guess schwantz. You could say their

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Speaker 4: Mill Heathen. It'll always be a Wilson to me. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 4: so to explain it, sorry, it's Wilson, which was my

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Speaker 4: like the Bumgarner family. I'm more of a Bumgarner than Wilson.

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Speaker 4: I just am Wilson, Will Gardner, Will Gardner. You know

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Speaker 4: what bumgarner means in German tree farmer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, ain't that cool? That was not what

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Speaker 4: I was expecting. Yeah, no, no, Anyways, Linda said this

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Speaker 4: I was accused of trying to replace Jack on Clara's life,

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Speaker 6: no longer living. Baby daddy, previous fiance, husband, boyfriend, baby daddy.

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Speaker 4: No strings attached, baby daddy. There was no there's no boyfriend,

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Speaker 4: passed away before she gave birth to Clara. Where were

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Speaker 4: You're gonna hear that happen. You're gonna be like, oh, Riley.

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Speaker 4: I'm like at the point where I don't want to

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Speaker 4: say anything anyway. Sorry, Serfence comes out tomorrow night. Welcome

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Speaker 4: to the Severance Podcast. After Linda hung up on me,

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Speaker 4: James called and tried to reason with me. They let

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Speaker 4: They're assuing me over custody of Clara and are stating

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Speaker 4: that I am unfit as a mother. Already have a

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Speaker 4: She told me yesterday they have almost zero chance of

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Speaker 4: getting any custody. Okay, after hearing that sentence, we're not

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Speaker 4: even like a fourth void done, so like I feel

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Speaker 4: like they do have a chance.

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Speaker 2: Battle will ensue.

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Speaker 6: That's the thing that she says, almost zero, because if

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Speaker 6: these people just decided to throw millions of dollars at this, yeah,

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Speaker 6: they could probably somehow, you know, bankrupt op from legal

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Speaker 6: fees and then go see she's got no money, she

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Speaker 6: can't be a parent.

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Speaker 4: Yikes. And now I'm thinking about inheritance, like Clara's probably

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Speaker 4: set up if the two other daughters can't have kids.

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Speaker 6: These sound like spiteful demon grandparents. Not gonna lie, They're

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Speaker 4: Need to make my will. The most they can give

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Speaker 4: is visitation. But still I worry about this a legal battle.

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Speaker 4: People in my life are divined. Part of them think

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Speaker 6: I mean I think that only the a whole talking

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Speaker 6: But also they put you there, oh yeah, because it's

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Speaker 6: They're fermented by by smoked oak caskets and old money,

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Speaker 4: This is how Linda realized Ted's car in the front

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Speaker 4: They also used to FaceTime Clara three times a week.

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Speaker 4: The percentage of accounting you is low, but it's not zero, which.

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Speaker 5: We'll call it the it's like a fact not zero.

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Speaker 6: But like I'm pretty sure Claria would be like, at

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Speaker 4: Well she's four, I know, or right, But by the

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Speaker 4: very attached. You do not. I don't know you can

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Speaker 7: You do know it's statistically hired to for a cow

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Speaker 6: Because I'm not swimming in the ocean where the sharks are. No,

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Speaker 4: And once the kid does that, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: And be like, oh my god, I'm not afraid of snakes.

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Speaker 6: Did you know that snakes are actually most things unless

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Speaker 4: They don't scare me like the bugs that go they

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Speaker 6: No, the bugs that don't like I came across the

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Speaker 4: did you do me?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 4: Thanks, I am all right gonna wear this. Do I

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 4: My lawyer advised me to call all visits, video calls

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Speaker 4: the advice. Guys, and don't worry much. Clara and I

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Speaker 4: No one will take her from me. We got some

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Speaker 4: relevant comments here. Number one, they bought plane tickets two

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Speaker 4: months ago without asking you. That's not planning ahead. That's

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Speaker 4: with OPI exactly. That's what pissed me off the most.

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Speaker 4: Who does that with someone else's child. They act like

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Speaker 4: Clara is their child, not mine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: True, Come in here.

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Speaker 6: Two.

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Speaker 4: If I were you, I would get the most aggressive,

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Speaker 4: the mud. You cannot trust your child with them. They

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Speaker 4: Fight fire with fire, not the A home Hopie says.

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Speaker 4: My lawyer is very fierce lady with almost twenty years

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Speaker 4: You got it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the inter family recommendation, goodness, gracious, inter sibling wrecks.

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Speaker 4: Coming to three, not the A Hole. This is your child.

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Speaker 4: They have no right to demand anything, and you were

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Speaker 4: You have a security system at your house. I would

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Speaker 4: be worried about them showing up. Hope, he says. I

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Speaker 4: You have been more than kind in fostering a relationship

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Speaker 4: with them. I am positive they will not get custody.

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Speaker 4: But I am curious about grandparent law rights. This is

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Speaker 4: I would fight to make sure all the visits are

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Speaker 4: they already have proven to be shady and underhanded. Op says.

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Speaker 4: According to my lawyer, since Jack he's passed away, they

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Speaker 4: clarifies details for barding the inheritance Clara has in her

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Speaker 4: and received. She inherited fifty percent of her father's assets

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Speaker 6: It's the law, dang, It's a lot of assets, bro

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Speaker 4: Lot of asset.

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Speaker 2: Dang. Here.

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Speaker 4: If you pass away without being married or having a

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Speaker 4: go to your parents. In case your parents aren't alive,

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Speaker 4: There's no need for an executor for her to receive

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Speaker 4: that I use all of her money. Dude, Oh pee, Op,

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Speaker 4: no kids it dude. Do you see these? Do you

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Speaker 6: These are all the ducks in the row. That's where

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Speaker 6: Op is putting them. All of your ducks. We're almost

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Speaker 4: We got an update guys two months later. Thoughts, do

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Speaker 6: I don't think they're And look, there were comments where

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think they're probably emotionally react to this because.

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Speaker 6: It's like throwing her last connection they have also to

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Speaker 4: I think these are probably just people who are all.

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Speaker 4: It at all.

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Speaker 6: You could have talked to her about it months ago

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Speaker 6: when you bought the tickets, and then it probably would

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Speaker 6: That's also not going to work out.

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Speaker 4: In the long run. Ke On, what do you think?

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Speaker 7: This is such a sticky situation that I want to

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Speaker 7: like they're not gone by now, like you this was

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Speaker 4: Right, child is not aware of any of this.

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Speaker 7: Child's not aware of it, but indaga, it's gonna happen eventually.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna happen, sooner or later. They're not thinking down

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Speaker 4: They're really not. They're thinking now what I want now?

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Speaker 4: This is what I want now.

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Speaker 7: And that's not as that's the best mind that's not

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Speaker 4: Trying to establish relationship like this long term.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're literally blowing it immediately. Yeah, when two months

438
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,720
Speaker 4: have passed and a lot has happened since. My life

439
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 4: was really chaotic for some weeks, and I felt bad

440
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,159
Speaker 4: that I couldn't celebrate Christmas the way I truly wanted

441
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,680
Speaker 4: to because I was constantly worried about the custody lawsuit.

442
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 4: I am relieved to say, now this is all over, Yes,

443
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 4: and she won clearly go probably got Hopefully she countersuits.

444
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 4: Also to the ones worried about Clara, I thank you

445
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 4: guys for being so gentle. To be honest, I think

446
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 4: more people were nice and gentle than Bully, So I'm

447
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 4: thankful for your well wishes from the bottom of my heart.

448
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 4: Clara is healthy and happy. Luckily nobody tried anything to

449
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 4: take her from me. I know a lot of you

450
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 4: said they could try and kidnapped her. I'm still worried

451
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 4: about it, but nothing has happened. After I made my post,

452
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 4: I spent several days working with my lawyer, my family,

453
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 4: and even with the home security company I hired to

454
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 4: ensure that Clara was safe, all my security cameras were working,

455
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 4: and that I had all the documentation needed for court.

456
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 4: My lawyer and I prepared tons of documentations about me, Clara,

457
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 4: and even got the backlogs of visitation in my gated

458
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 4: community that proves that Ted has never spent the night here.

459
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 4: My family were very aware about my fears of kidnapping,

460
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 4: and they made sure to always be around us. I

461
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 4: have to thank you guys for the incredible advices I got.

462
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 4: I don't want to put too much weight on talking

463
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 4: about haters because ninety percent of the comments and messages

464
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 4: were truly nice and caring. I tried my best to

465
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 4: listen to my lawyer and many things you guys said

466
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 4: we could do to ensure our safety. Not only that,

467
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 4: but I talked to Clara's pediatrician, pediatric disidentists, swimming teacher,

468
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 4: and even my parents church where Clara sometimes goes to

469
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 4: kids classes, they are all aware of the lawsuit and

470
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 4: that nobody should give up information about Clara or me

471
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 4: under no circumstances. That is so smart. I've never even

472
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:12,640
Speaker 4: thought about.

473
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 6: That, what like like if you're if you're going getting

474
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 6: ahead of it, getting ahead of it, and then to

475
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 6: do that and then also being like, yo, hey, if anyone,

476
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 6: if someone random asked about Clara, please do not share

477
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 6: any information.

478
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's crazy to think about that.

479
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 6: We grew up in a time where like that wasn't

480
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 6: really a thing. Like anybody could have just like walked

481
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 6: into my elementary school and been like, hey to go

482
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 6: to his uncle and they'd be like okay, Like yeah,

483
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 6: and then fast forward. By the time I graduated high school,

484
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 6: it's like they basically had all the schools locked down

485
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 6: like reverse prisons. Yeah, it's like you're not getting in

486
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 6: unless you know exactly, unless you know everything about you,

487
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 6: you're not getting in here. So but yeah, that's that's

488
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 6: always if you know that there's a freaky individual out

489
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 6: there like going after your kid or something, or that

490
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 6: they might like definitely tell the place where they're going

491
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 6: to be most of the week, Like hey, this person

492
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 6: might roll.

493
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 4: Up, dude, show bell such an unfit parent making sure

494
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 4: that her daughter has fully well rounded upbringings right up

495
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 4: by family and friends, also with a lot of security.

496
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 4: Get so unfit dude, unfit dude, this is crazy fit.

497
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 4: Come on, gosh, they are all in the same page

498
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 4: and are giving us support and being understanding. Some people

499
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 4: also advised me to speak to Clara's aunts to know

500
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 4: if they're aware of the lawsuit and the possibility that

501
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 4: their parents could try and take my daughter. I was

502
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 4: not sure how to do this. My lawyer said that

503
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 4: I could try to communicate them with them, but all

504
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 4: via text or email, so you can have like the

505
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 4: receipts or I could do this. Lily, Jack's younger sister

506
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 4: that lives in Europe, texted me you asked if I

507
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 4: receive Clara's Christmas gift she sent through.

508
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 7: Now.

509
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 4: I saw this as an opportunity and wrote a text

510
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 4: explaining what was happening with her parents. Lily said she

511
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 4: had no idea about the lawsuit or that they wanted

512
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 4: to take Clara for carissmis and flying with her on

513
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 4: a plane. She said that she would speak with Ruth

514
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 4: and ask her about this. Since Ruth at the time

515
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 4: was very distant from her family group chat. A day later,

516
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 4: created a group chat to talk to me. Uh oh,

517
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 4: we got some middleman going on here. I think what happened.

518
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 4: Ruth went to Lily. Yeahda YadA YadA. Oh, this actually

519
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 4: didn't happen, and now Ruth is on Lily side. That's

520
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 4: a hot take. I'll see, we'll see. They asked to

521
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 4: have a video call with me, I said, I out

522
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 4: of talking with my lawyer first. My lawyer agreed to

523
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 4: me doing the call if they let me record it

524
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 4: or make sure nothing would be used against me. Both agreed.

525
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 4: When we had a video call that was enlightening to me.

526
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 4: Ruth apologized to me for being distant from our lives.

527
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 4: Over the past months, she was dealing with many personal issues,

528
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 4: but had happy news to share. Ruth went through her

529
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 4: third IVF round and as of now, she is around

530
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 4: twenty two weeks pregnant with their first child. Oh wow,

531
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 4: she kept everything quiet. Wait, wait, so Ruth Ruth is

532
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 4: the other sister. Yes, Ruth is the old Lily and

533
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 4: Ruth are Okay, who what's the mom's name? Wait?

534
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 6: Is Lily the one who's thirty seven? Or is Ruth

535
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 6: the one who's thirty seven. Lily's the older one.

536
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 4: Ruth is the older one, Lily is the younger one.

537
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 4: Just Ruth and her husband Sam knew about the IVF

538
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 4: proceedings and the pregnancy. She said this was because Linda

539
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: used to put too much pressure and stress over time

540
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 4: as they tried IVF, Ruth was visiting herself from things

541
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 4: that raised her anxiety levels, and her mom was a

542
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 4: main source of anxiety. Her pargency is a good news,

543
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: but did it surprise me? Since I knew she was

544
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 4: trying for a baby. I'm happy she was finally able

545
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 4: to conceive. Here, I have to explain that Linda is

546
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: what people call boy mom. She never got along with

547
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 4: her daughters. I had an inkling about that, but since

548
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 4: I was not close to them, I had no idea

549
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 4: how bad her relationship with her daughters were. They just

550
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 4: seemed distance and James was closer to her daughter's. Yeah,

551
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 4: we got a story about a boy mom yesterday. Thought.

552
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 5: I thought we promised we didn't talk about that anymore.

553
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 4: We misved in earlier for Sophio let her know, keep

554
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 4: an eye on that.

555
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 6: Oh and then she was like, I didn't do that yeah,

556
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 6: she's probably true. Yeah, it was if it was anyone

557
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 6: who's probably And then she tried to accuse us that

558
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 6: we said we're on the fifth story, but we're actually

559
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 6: in the fourth.

560
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: And then someone went back and was like, no, you're wrong.

561
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 6: She's got all kinds of wild accusations. She throws around

562
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 6: all the time. Tell me about it, man's.

563
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 4: When when she's off camera. Bro, No, I'm just kidding. No,

564
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 4: she was great, she's wondering, just goofing. We say good

565
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 4: things behind her back, bad things in front of her.

566
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 4: Ruth swore that she didn't know about the lawsuit until

567
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 4: Lily called her the day before that. After this, she

568
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 4: talked to her dad and to his best friend, who

569
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 4: is a lawyer, to understand what's going on. She was

570
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 4: surprised that James's friend didn't know anything about the lawsuit,

571
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 4: since he's usually the lawyer representing them. James, on the

572
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 4: other hand, tried to divert the subject when Ruth asked,

573
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 4: but she pressured him and eventually he fold and told

574
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: her everything. James claims that he didn't want to assue me,

575
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 4: but Linda's mental health has deteriorated to the point that

576
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 4: he feared for her well being. Does that I mean

577
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 4: you should go out and hire a lawyer, then a

578
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: lawyer or a sawyer. Yeah, I don't know. Get a lawyer.

579
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: We can do with a sawyer. Put them to work. You

580
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 4: know what sawyers do, right, they're sawyers. Yeah, they have

581
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 4: big soul.

582
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: They work the soul. Well, yeah, definitely, don't. You don't

583
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: need a sawyer.

584
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 4: Yeah no, but dude, that's wild. The only thing that

585
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 4: could make her get out of the bed is Clara

586
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 4: and the thought of having her around. He ignored that

587
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: this makes Linda the one who's not fit to raise

588
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: a child, not me. His plan was to pressure me

589
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 4: with a lawsuit in order to make me to accept

590
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 4: a better deal of visitation for them. They wanted more

591
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 4: days with her and to be able to travel with

592
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 4: her to their home multiple times a year. James never

593
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 4: said that they wanted to keep her forever. But I'm

594
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 4: not trusting on his words. My trust is shattered. Ruth

595
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: and Sam tored James a new one for suing me

596
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 4: over custody to manipulate me, and for not forcing Linda

597
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 4: to go to therapy. He claimed Linda doesn't accept the

598
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 4: idea of going to see a therapist as she is

599
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: not crazy, and said that she would not go under

600
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: no circumstance. Ruth had to threaten James that if he

601
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: didn't withdraw the lawsuit and get the help Linda and

602
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 4: him needed, she would go no contact and resign from

603
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: the family business.

604
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 6: Whoa, oh, oh, now you're messing with the family logistics. Oh.

605
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 4: She was very worried about the idea of doing the

606
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 4: same to Sam in case she passes away and their

607
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 4: child is left with their husband. James kind of broke

608
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: after this and caved to Ruth's demands. After my call

609
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 4: with Ruth and Lily, I was under the knowledge that

610
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: the lawsuit would be terminated.

611
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, very good, very good.

612
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, in my country from the twentieth of December until

613
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: the twentieth of January, the courts are on break and

614
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: they deal with emergency cases. Mine wasn't. Their lawyer reached

615
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 4: out to Mind to talk about the end of the

616
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 4: lawsuit and about riding a visitation agreement that the family

617
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 4: courts would approve. Well, agree to work on this, but

618
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 4: I would only sign any visitation agreement after they had

619
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 4: withdrawn their loss for custody and if only they agreed

620
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 4: to follow my rules.

621
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: Fair.

622
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 4: I don't see anything wrong here.

623
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: Sounds fair to me.

624
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what a very fit parent would do.

625
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 6: Sounds like you have more than ample proof that you are,

626
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 6: in fact a good parent.

627
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude. And crazy that they try to get Clara

628
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 4: while Linda is not a good headspace whatsoever.

629
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 6: Now it's like and it just again, it totally tracks

630
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 6: with this whole with what seems to be the vibe

631
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 6: of their family history and their background, where it's just like,

632
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 6: we get what we want. We don't care why or

633
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 6: how or if it's even good for the kid.

634
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 4: All that matters is what we want exactly for what

635
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: I know, after being pressured by her whole family, Linda

636
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 4: eventually accepted to start therapy and she's seeing a psychiatrist

637
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: and a therapist. She was diagnosed with depression and PTSD

638
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: related to Jack's death.

639
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 6: That's fair. Yeah, again, which is what I would say.

640
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 6: It's like there's a lot of complicated.

641
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: Emotions going into this exactly.

642
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: I know this because my lawyer demanded that her doctors

643
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 4: had to put an evaluation of Linda's mental state in

644
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 4: order to our legal agreement for me to accept a

645
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 4: visitation deal with Clara's grandparents. I never said here, but

646
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: Jack's death was sudden and violent. He was a victim

647
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 4: of a robbery gone wrong. It was a car I

648
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 4: don't know what I was thinking. I thought, I mean,

649
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: I thought it was tragic. I didn't think it was

650
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 4: a crime. Dude, Oh man, WHOA, that's wild. All of

651
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 4: us were shocked about his passing, but Linda and James

652
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: took the brunt of it. I always felt they didn't

653
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: more enough, since they switched their attention to my pregnancy

654
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 4: a few weeks after his passing, and I was right

655
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Speaker 4: to thank that. In our visitation agreement, I also demanded

656
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Speaker 4: that both James and Linda have to go through grief counseling,

657
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: to which they agreed a number of sessions. Me, James,

658
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 4: and Linda are attending virtual family therapy for the first

659
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 4: few months of our agreement to make sure we're on

660
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Speaker 4: in a healthy space to deal with our relationship and

661
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Speaker 4: put Clara's well being first. Regarding to this, I have

662
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: nothing to complain about. They accepted my terms pretty easily.

663
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Speaker 4: They did try to fight against the idea of supervised visitation,

664
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Speaker 4: but I had no reason to accept otherwise. Now they

665
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: will visit Clara twice a month on a family center

666
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Speaker 4: in my city. This is something my country has, is

667
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 4: a public building where things related to custody of miners

668
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Speaker 4: and family problems regarding custody are handled. They have very

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Speaker 4: good security there. Visits will be supervised by a social

670
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Speaker 4: worker who was assigned to our case by the judge

671
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Speaker 4: as signed or a visitation or reement. But my fears

672
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Speaker 4: of kidnapping, I'd say I didn't feel validated by my

673
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: country's laws. Basically, me and my lawyer went to a

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Speaker 4: police station and we did an occurrence about the possibility

675
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Speaker 4: of a kidnapp They didn't seem to take this seriously.

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Speaker 4: As of now, they will not press charges. Why would

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Speaker 4: they press charges.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, yeah, no one's been, no one's been,

679
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Speaker 6: no one's been kidnapped.

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Speaker 4: They probably yeah, that makes sense. I mean whether they're

681
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Speaker 4: not like, did they give you advice where they just

682
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Speaker 4: like stop bothering us?

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Speaker 6: Well whatever advice that if they gave you the advice

684
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Speaker 6: to do whatever you've just done, and then that was

685
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Speaker 6: great advice because I feel like we were at now

686
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 6: perfect Your lawyer is doing exactly the right thing, and

687
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 6: laws people need therapy and guidance and supervision.

688
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Speaker 4: If they're going to continue to interact with this.

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Speaker 1: Child, whish they it's probably for the best they do.

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Speaker 6: It's like, you know, I have a lot of good

691
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Speaker 6: memories with my grandparents. Grandparents are an important part of

692
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Speaker 6: a kid's Oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you know. Yeah, but dude, you got to

694
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Speaker 4: I don't think you need to go to the police station.

695
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: You're in a Yieta community, you got cameras up, you

696
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: got family that's close.

697
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Speaker 1: At this point, it seems like we're back on the rails.

698
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: Everything's on track.

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Speaker 6: People, We're understanding each other a little bit better, and

700
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Speaker 6: I think with some time and doing the therapy.

701
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Speaker 4: It's like it could be.

702
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Speaker 6: It could be a healthy dynamic and a healthy relationship

703
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Speaker 6: for all parties involved.

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Speaker 4: If you really want to know where they're at, put

705
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Speaker 4: GPSS in their cars. I don't think that's legal. That's true.

706
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Speaker 6: If you want to know where someone's at, you track them,

707
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 6: yellow jack them.

708
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Speaker 5: Just do the trusty thing and be like, find my friends.

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Speaker 4: At least there's paperwork. What my friends. Share your location

710
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: with everyone?

711
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 6: I expect to have your location immediately, speaking of you

712
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Speaker 6: don't share it with me?

713
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you share it with me.

714
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Speaker 1: Uh oh, I'll do it.

715
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Speaker 6: Fine, I'll do it.

716
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Speaker 4: At least there's paperwork regarding my fears. James ended up

717
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Speaker 4: sending my lawyer Clara's plane tickets to proof. They bought

718
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: her two tickets and we're not planning on staying with her.

719
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Speaker 4: Since they have money, I don't think it would be

720
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: hard for them to buy a ticket back knowing they

721
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Speaker 4: will not use it, so I'm still not trusting or

722
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Speaker 4: believing them. I don't have plans of letting them visit

723
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Speaker 4: Clara without supervision. Even their aunts know that to see

724
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 4: Clara they have to be supervised too. Everyone is accepting

725
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 4: of this right now, and the visits have started over

726
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago. Let's see what happens in

727
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Speaker 4: the future. I also don't intend on traveling to their

728
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: stay or city in the near future. I'm truly scared

729
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Speaker 4: about the chances of them using their power to take

730
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Speaker 4: my daughter, so I will not make it easier for them,

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Speaker 4: And you can make it easier for yourself. If you

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Speaker 4: on Apple, Spotify, wherever you listen to podcasts, and boom,

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Speaker 4: there will be a plethora stories just like this one,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, go there.

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Speaker 6: They might even be juicier than this one. This one

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Speaker 6: does have a lot of juice.

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Speaker 1: It's like her double endow a mellow juice.

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Speaker 4: This is the play by play.

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Speaker 6: What you need to do to make sure your child

741
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Speaker 6: is safe and truly that this is a great blueprint.

742
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Speaker 1: Like I expected this to be a lot worse.

743
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Speaker 6: I expected this to be like the lording in laws

744
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Speaker 6: would be well in laws.

745
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Speaker 4: I don't know what would you call them.

746
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 6: They never got married, but yeah, I thought they were

747
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Speaker 6: going to leverage that money and just like try to

748
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Speaker 6: steal that bakers, but they didn't.

749
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Speaker 1: They're just hurting and with some therapy and some you know, some.

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Speaker 6: Social services, I think I think this will I think

751
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Speaker 6: this will all work out in the end.

752
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Speaker 4: I think everyone can be happy. Yeah, absolutely, last a

753
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Speaker 4: little bit. Thank you again for all the well wishes.

754
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: As of now, Clara and her mama Bear are doing

755
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 4: well and enjoying a couple of days I take to

756
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Speaker 4: spend the quality time together and finally celebrate since our

757
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Speaker 4: Christmas was very stressful. Oh my gosh, I'm done with

758
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Speaker 4: this story. I think she's just talking about me, and

759
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Speaker 4: what do you mean she's just talking about her lawyer's recommendations.

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Speaker 4: I think we should read no story. What she's just

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Speaker 4: doubling down? I need more? We already got it.

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Speaker 1: No, there's what else do you need?

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Speaker 4: Well, she's just talking about how she's doubling down with

764
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Speaker 4: her lawyer and all the steps that she's taking. But

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Speaker 6: Me thirty nine female, forty in less than two months,

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Speaker 6: and my husband, thirty eight male, have been together for

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Speaker 6: more than half of our lives.

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Speaker 1: Really making me do math there, Opie.

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Speaker 6: We are high school sweethearts, as we started dating in

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Speaker 6: December two thousand and two. He has two older sisters,

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782
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786
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Speaker 6: with my husband's sisters hasn't always been perfect, but the

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Speaker 6: oldest and I usually get along. However, myself and Rebecca,

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Speaker 6: I would say we're pretty close. We always made a

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Speaker 6: point to hang out together when life got busy. We

790
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 6: would go to the movies together now and then, or

791
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Speaker 6: go on spa dates so we could talk and catch

792
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Speaker 6: up on life. I visited her down in the States

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Speaker 6: when she was going to school, and she shared a

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Speaker 6: lot with me and my husband for that matter. She

795
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Speaker 6: always said that he would be her first call if

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Speaker 6: she was ever in need of someone's help. This type

797
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Speaker 6: of relationship continued on even after she had her first child.

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Speaker 6: We were so close that before her first child was born,

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Speaker 6: she made my husband and I the godparents. She was

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Speaker 6: our first call when we lost our first.

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Speaker 4: Son at twenty eight weeks pregnant. Thing. Hmmm, that's tough. Ah,

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Speaker 4: that's a tough one. Well, you know, that's a special bond.

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Speaker 4: I have somebody be that first call man.

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Speaker 2: Yep, real quick.

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Speaker 4: I don't like how this is set up, because you

806
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 4: were establishing how close you are to this friend. I

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Speaker 4: feel like something really bad is about to happen here. Well,

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Speaker 4: they're probably gonna turn on. They're gonna flip. They're gonna

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Speaker 4: do a one to eighty flip.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Tony Hawk, do it, do it all.

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Speaker 4: Right, let's do this. Let's do the rest of the story.

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Speaker 6: In September of twenty twenty three, we had the opportunity

813
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Speaker 6: to go out to Alberta with my husband, our son,

814
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Speaker 6: who was four months old at the time. His parents,

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Speaker 6: my husband, Rebecca, and her two children. Her husband was

816
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Speaker 6: gifted an extravagant hunting trip from Rebecca the Christmas before,

817
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 6: so she thought it would be great if we could

818
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Speaker 6: all go and meet with him once his trip was over.

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Speaker 6: Their mom has a brother living out there, and his

820
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Speaker 6: wedding gift to the Nieces has always been a trip

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Speaker 6: out west. Since my husband and I got married in

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Speaker 6: June of twenty twenty, he graciously paid for our flight

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Speaker 6: so we could join in on the fun.

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Speaker 4: Wait when did ope get married or was their friend?

825
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 4: June twenty twenty that's when they got married. Yes, they've

826
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Speaker 4: been together and their husband. It took them eighteen years.

827
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Speaker 4: That's crazy. Sorry, they were in high school, but they

828
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Speaker 4: they've been together for like twenty years. They got together.

829
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Speaker 6: Do it if you're still together with your high school like,

830
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Speaker 6: if you're gonna do a high school sweetheart like relationship,

831
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Speaker 6: I am waiting that long to get married because I'm

832
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Speaker 6: gonna make sure that's real, real, legit ski.

833
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Speaker 4: Well, then basically you've been married the whole time. Like,

834
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Speaker 4: if you're together for twenty years and didn't get married,

835
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Speaker 4: maybe they got married and they maybe they had a

836
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Speaker 4: secret wedding. Shut up, No, they did not have a

837
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Speaker 4: secret wedding.

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Speaker 6: Riley hates secret weddings. Wedding Oh okay. Anyway, the trip

839
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Speaker 6: was spectacular, the mountains breathtakingly beautiful.

840
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Speaker 4: As always.

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Speaker 6: Rebecca and I were even able to have one of

842
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 6: our spat dates while we were there. Here's what I

843
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 6: think our relationship turned for the worst. What what?

844
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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think some people don't like the snake.

845
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Speaker 1: Oh this is all Riley's fault.

846
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Speaker 6: Also, why don't you like snakes? If you don't like snakes,

847
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Speaker 6: I got beef with you. Dude, why don't we like snakes?

848
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 4: Huh?

849
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Speaker 5: So Dakota doesn't like people who don't like snakes.

850
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got to.

851
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Speaker 6: Be beef with those who are against snakes for no reason.

852
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 4: I bet you like snakes they eat dogs.

853
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 6: Actually that's not true. Any other questions commons her concern?

854
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Speaker 4: What's the Resta's story?

855
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Speaker 6: During our pedicures, Rebecca was going on and on about

856
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 6: how their parents always overlooked her when she was growing

857
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 6: up and that she never got anything she wanted.

858
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Speaker 1: With a confused look on my face, I said.

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Speaker 6: But what about all of the dance and horseback lessons

860
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Speaker 6: and the horses and the schooling.

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Speaker 4: She kind of looked at me and went quiet.

862
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Speaker 6: She didn't talk to me much after that during the trip,

863
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Speaker 6: but I didn't think much of it as I was

864
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Speaker 6: having a blast with my little family. Dude, all it

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Speaker 6: took was pressing her one time on her bs for

866
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Speaker 6: her to completely like, turn on you.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy. She just had that loaded in and you

868
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Speaker 4: ask one question, one pushback, and then.

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Speaker 6: She blah, she's Done's like I never got anything I wanted.

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Speaker 6: It's like you literally had horseback lessons and you had horses.

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Speaker 6: A lot of kids want that, explicitly want that and

872
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Speaker 6: never get that, and you got that, I'm.

873
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 4: Never talking to you again. Lol.

874
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 6: Okay, anyway, I know she's about to bring up some

875
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 6: f up crap here. Yeah, she's about to do something crazy.

876
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 6: We had rented our own car as well, so we

877
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 6: could explore on our own.

878
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 4: When we arrived home.

879
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 6: Their mom unfortunately came down with pneumonia in October. Her

880
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 6: doctor didn't catch this until the second time. She got

881
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 6: really sick and finally took the blood work and got

882
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 6: a chest X ray. In our family group chat, their mom,

883
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 6: Jane wondered why the doctor would be calling her at

884
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 6: home making sure that she was okay and was able

885
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 6: to get the medication she needed for the pneumonia. So,

886
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 6: being the silly person I am, I wrote, she done

887
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 6: effed up.

888
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 4: This triggered Rebecca. She exploded with insults towards me, saying

889
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 4: that I was uneducated and that when a horse presents

890
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 4: these symptoms, they don't always go for a chest X

891
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 4: ray because it could be something else. She's bringing up horses,

892
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: m we're talking about people. She's like, so, like one

893
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 4: time my horse jumped over an obstacle and it went great.

894
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: Maybe you should try that. We've lost him, folks. Dang it,

895
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: I thought that was relatable. We've lost him.

896
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 6: Oh sorry, guys, it's okay, dude. This was literally me

897
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 6: when you tapped me out this morning.

898
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 7: Yeah.

899
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 6: If you hadn't tapped me out and I read one

900
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 6: of those five k's, i'd be reading it like how

901
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 6: you're on the couch right now.

902
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 4: Dude, it's been a week. It's only Wednesday.

903
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm a doctor, so this is what's usually done.

904
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 4: I am a doctor.

905
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, horse doctor. I also a doctor. I'm a doctor.

906
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: I am a doctor of horses. I am a doctor doctor.

907
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 4: Horse, your doctor, horse doctor horse.

908
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 6: Okay, ah, okay, we're gonna go okay. I also need

909
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 6: to mention that I am a stay at home mom

910
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 6: with my son who's now twenty one months old, shut up,

911
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 6: say a year and a half, and now our daughter

912
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 6: four months. I always like to post my opinion on

913
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 6: social media, especially when it pertains to being a stay

914
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 6: at home mom, homeschooling, and homesteading, because this is what

915
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 6: I am striving to be for myself and for my family,

916
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 6: a homemaker, if you will, dude, I.

917
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 4: Love posting my opinion on social media. It's like, literally

918
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 4: my favorite thing to do. Yeah, and then do you

919
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 4: just watch as the world burns? Yeah, that's why everyone

920
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: lost your opinion. You go. And then it's just every

921
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 4: time Sophia puts one of her little posts on on Instagram,

922
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: I like make sure to say something what one of

923
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: her little posts. She'll like make a post and I'm like,

924
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 4: ha ha, and it'll say something You're just annoying older,

925
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: that's all you are. Just just it's annoying.

926
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: Brother.

927
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: No, she hates me sometimes when I say stuff and

928
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: she just doesn't reply.

929
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: Oh, I do it to her two though, I've been

930
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: doing it to her recently about her.

931
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 6: Dude, you're thinking with the word so I go, Sophia,

932
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 6: what do you see in your head right now when

933
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 6: you think of that word?

934
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: What do you see?

935
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: And she just goes, shut up, shut up. I'm like,

936
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: what do you see that?

937
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: I love? Sofia fun, She's sold love you, Sophia, are

938
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 4: you watching? You see it? Where in front of you?

939
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: And and what do you what do you see right now?

940
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 4: When you say when you see the B word in

941
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: your head? What do you see, Sophia, bee? What do

942
00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: you see?

943
00:41:59,400 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: A bee?

944
00:41:59,719 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 4: Buzz?

945
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 6: Josephine midelerberq was Miller Painton her herschman says, I am

946
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 6: a waterhorse sentry egg.

947
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 4: Full body ogezum, doctor dude, get back on track. We're

948
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 4: almost on the story.

949
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 6: Okay, you could get off track a little bit of

950
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 6: but you just go you just like I don't even.

951
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 4: Understand, orry. I was reading a comment from our wonderful

952
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 4: community like a terrible person. Though I hate adulting, having

953
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 4: fun and being it's the worst.

954
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 6: We know what to do, doctor waterhorse, Doctor waterhorse in

955
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 6: the chat.

956
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: All right, everybody, everybody do this.

957
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 6: I always post these reels that come across my feed

958
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 6: that pertained to being this way, homesteading, home fronting, homeschooling,

959
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 6: home landing. Rebecca took these reels, especially the ones that

960
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 6: pertain to being a stay at home mom, as a

961
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 6: slight towards her. She thought that I believe that because

962
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 6: she's a working mom, I thought less of her and

963
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 6: all of the other working moms in the world, which

964
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 6: is so far from the truth. I know, we all

965
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 6: have to do what we have to do. She started

966
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 6: texting us one night saying that we were hurting their

967
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 6: parents with all of the posts that I was posting.

968
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: A direct quote. Oh yes, I kept the texts quote.

969
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 6: I'm not going to sit here and try to convince

970
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 6: you that what you choose is the wrong thing. I

971
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 6: don't care what you do. I'm sure not going to

972
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 6: post ten different things on social media to make you

973
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 6: feel crappy for choosing whatever lifestyle you decided works for you.

974
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 6: All I care about is that our son's name gets

975
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 6: everything he needs and wants in life, even if it

976
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 6: means you need to sacrifice your wants and needs.

977
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: Girl, you're taking this out of the wrong context. She's

978
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 4: just probably spreading awareness or spreading what she likes.

979
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 6: She's the kind of person who sees like a post

980
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 6: about elephants and then goes, oh, yeah, so you hate whales?

981
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Or like if I'm like posting about like the

982
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 4: NBA MVP and Dakota's like, well, I'm sorry, I'm not

983
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 4: an NBA basketball player.

984
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

985
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 6: Sorry, I never made it pro Thanks for rubbing edd

986
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 6: in my face again.

987
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: Thanks my girl. Like, you know, you can like put

988
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: your phone in the water and you don't have to

989
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 4: look at it anymore, right, you know you can't turn

990
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 4: it off. Who's your MVP right now? Jo Kitch duh, duh, duh, duh. Okay,

991
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 4: he's so boring.

992
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's the most dominant person we've maybe ever seen it.

993
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 4: It's his job. He's the only one treating it like

994
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 4: a job, and he's doing Oh yeah, dude, I'm sorry.

995
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 4: Sorry when he fox in, it's easy locked in. I

996
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 4: text back, saying that anything we post or share is

997
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 4: not directed at anyone in particular, and that the things

998
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: shared are things that we believe in or think are humorous.

999
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 4: I explained that our son will have everything he needs

1000
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 4: in life because we will make it so. I also

1001
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 4: said that it sounded like me choosing to be a

1002
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 4: stay at home mom is a bad choice in their eyes,

1003
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: and that it makes me a bad mom. I gave

1004
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: her the option to unfollow me if the things that

1005
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: I'm posting are not to their liking, and that there

1006
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: would be no hard feelings if she did so. She

1007
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 4: then said that no one believes what I'm saying, and

1008
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: then both my husband and I were unfriended by Rebecca

1009
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 4: and Alice on social media, and then we were both

1010
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 4: exiled out of the family Chat because we were being disrespectful.

1011
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 4: It was mid December when Rebecca reached out to us

1012
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 4: again to ask if we were going to Christmas at

1013
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 4: Alice in her family's home. My husband and I discussed

1014
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 4: it and didn't want to go somewhere where we were

1015
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: not wanted.

1016
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 6: This is when the chitake hit the fan. She called

1017
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 6: us ridiculous. You one how many what do.

1018
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: You rate that?

1019
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 4: Eight point five cool out of twenty?

1020
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 6: She called us ridiculous and said that we were ruining

1021
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 6: Christmas for their mom and dad and their oldest child.

1022
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 6: She even told us that our god parent ship was

1023
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 6: taken away from us and given to Alice and her husband. Cool,

1024
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 6: all right, nice. She said that having a homeschooled education

1025
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 6: makes you dumb.

1026
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 4: Oh cool? Cool, guys, we're all dumb by the way.

1027
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 6: You know, it's not dumb listening to full episodes with

1028
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 6: stories like this, and all you gotta do is go

1029
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 6: to iHeartRadio or Apple Podcasts or Spotify wherever you listen

1030
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: and search Okay story time and then you'll find you

1031
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 6: know all the stories to your heart's desire twelve hundred

1032
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 6: hours and counting, So go take a listen. Honestly, do

1033
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 6: you think it's ruining Christmas to not go to the

1034
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 6: house that no one likes? You at where they like

1035
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 6: they unfollow you. Are you Are they ruining Christmas? Yes?

1036
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 6: Or not?

1037
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: Loki?

1038
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: I mean I had to go to my family's Christmas

1039
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 4: if they like me or not, so you'd say they're

1040
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: ruining Christmas. Looky, they're ruining Christmas? Probably, Dang, it just

1041
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 4: throwed off. Like one time my aunt had a very

1042
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 4: heat discussed with my mom and didn't show up for Thanksgiving.

1043
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving felt weird and like me and that A are

1044
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 4: pretty really good, but like not having everyone there was weird.

1045
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 4: And the past two Christmas will be weird because some

1046
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 4: people like miss like for being sick and stuff.

1047
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 6: I mean, like it's gonna throw the off for people

1048
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 6: who get sick. Yeah, yeah, I mean I'll get sick

1049
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 6: one on the hole. We want to get everyone else

1050
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 6: sick at Christmas?

1051
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 4: Dude, I haven't been six is the eighth grade?

1052
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: Dude, don't say that too loud that you're actually.

1053
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 4: I got the VID in twenty something, so you get sick,

1054
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 4: but that counts other than that. Yeah, it does throw

1055
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 4: it off. I mean, do you have the right to

1056
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 4: stay home and not go to Christmas? Yeah, that's totally you.

1057
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 4: But it will like it will be weird. Are they

1058
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 4: ruining Christmas?

1059
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 1: Or did Alice ruin Christmas by being an uppity?

1060
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 4: A beep be by beep, I don't know. Yeah, who

1061
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: ruined it? Who really ruined it? A beep?

1062
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 6: Where does the ruin begin? Anyway, let's let's finish the story.

1063
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 6: I need ruins. She also texted that if they had

1064
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 6: passed away tomorrow that her children wouldn't even have bedrooms

1065
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 6: or a place just play inside. We're fixing up an

1066
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 6: old farmhouse and the upstairs is being worked on first,

1067
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 6: and our kiddos have plenty of room to play in

1068
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 6: the living room area. She pointed out that we're not

1069
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 6: ready for more children pertaining to hers if God forbid

1070
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 6: something were to happen to them. She went on to

1071
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 6: say that she's the only one with the medical background

1072
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 6: in the family for horses, which is why people come

1073
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 6: to her when they need to know what things mean,

1074
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 6: and that I was gaslighting her and the family when

1075
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 6: she brought my son into the conversation. That's when I

1076
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 6: lost it. I screamed a scream I had never screamed before.

1077
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 4: I've heard that.

1078
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 6: One oh Christians just thrown it up his motorbike. I

1079
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 6: was so hurt by the things that were said in

1080
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 6: these texts. This is when my husband said that we

1081
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 6: were cutting off ties with her. We haven't spoken to

1082
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 6: her since those last texts in December twenty twenty three.

1083
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 6: Are we the a holes? Comments comment one, not the

1084
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 6: A hole. I feel like your sister in law was

1085
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 6: maybe projecting her feelings onto you because you're a stay

1086
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 6: at home mom. I'd love to see those texts for sure,

1087
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 6: and that is the end of that story.

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Speaker 4: And I agree. Not the Ahle.

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Speaker 1: Riley disagrees. Riley thinks you're the a hole rooting Christmas.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying you're the a hole, but the vibes

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Speaker 4: at the family function will be weird.

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Speaker 6: He's not saying it, but he's thinking it. No, I'm

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Speaker 6: just I'm sure, I'm just messing around. I'm just messing around, folks,

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Speaker 6: I'm just messing around. I'm just messing around.

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Speaker 4: I'm just messing around. The girl's coming after me. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: It's all right, dude. You are right.

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Speaker 6: When things are off, it does feel funny. But it's like,

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Speaker 6: you know, where do we put the blame? Put the

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Speaker 6: blame on the people who are like I refuse to

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Speaker 6: go to someone's house who disrespects me constantly? Or are

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Speaker 6: we putting it on the people who are like disrespecting constantly?

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Speaker 6: And I don't mean that in like I'm not trying

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Speaker 6: to be like you were wrong. I mean like it

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Speaker 6: like literally like where does it go? Like does that

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Speaker 6: suck it up and just deal with it for one

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00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 6: evening type thing? Or like is it where does it go?

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Speaker 6: You know, just making you're scaring me. Well, that's the

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Speaker 6: end of that episode. All right, we got some dono's.

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Speaker 6: He's still looking at me. Okay, here's the joke, Little

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Speaker 6: burb in America, using the metric system, you can get

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Speaker 6: in legal trouble.

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Speaker 4: What does that mean? Where's the joke there? What is

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00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 4: this joke? In America using the metric system can get

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00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 4: you in legal trouble? Anti joke? I put it in there?

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Speaker 6: Oh it is Yep, it's good. We found an anti joke.

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Speaker 6: What's the legal trouble it can get you in?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I just made it up.

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Speaker 6: Hannah donated twenty five dollars, Eh, what to put there?

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Speaker 6: Awkward Turtle donated fifty bucks. You guys make me so happy.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you very much. And we've got Purple Trader,

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Speaker 6: thank you for the two bucks.

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Speaker 1: Troll Stream.

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Speaker 4: Huh, yep, that's me.

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Speaker 6: That's what it turned into. I think guys ended up

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Speaker 6: at troll Stream. That's the end of that episode, the

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Speaker 6: end of that story, end of that episode.

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Speaker 4: I am so tired. I gosh, what do you say, Riley?

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Speaker 6: I love you guys, so if you love us, make

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Speaker 2: We love you.

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Speaker 3: And hey, it's John here, og host of the show.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get back to these juicy stories. But here's

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00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 3: a quick three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

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Speaker 2: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives.

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Speaker 1: Time for okop Relam.

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Speaker 2: My husband openly brags to me and the kids about

1137
00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: how many women throw themselves at him. Okop, this is okayop.

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00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm Samuel daughter and I'm John Fry and John people

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00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: have been making fun of me recently.

1140
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 4: They it's not acceptable.

1141
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of rude. I feel bad. They said

1142
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: that my camera is so zoomed in that they can

1143
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 2: see the back of my throat. And if you could

1144
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: see the back of my throat, you would understand that

1145
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: I don't have any tonsiles because I got them taken

1146
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 2: out when I was like five.

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Speaker 3: They're honestly, I think they're just jealous of your your

1148
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 3: good oral hygiene. Yeah and yeah, maybe they have inflamed

1149
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: that oral around the best.

1150
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 4: Maybe it's just no one has better.

1151
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: Or let the record show the oral hygiene that is hygiene.

1152
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: Let's keep it clean, guys, Let's keep you clean. That's

1153
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: how we do it. And with that anyway, with that

1154
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: all right, John, I got his sory, I got his

1155
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: Sorry hit me with the baby, all right. My husband

1156
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: openly brags to me and the kids about how many

1157
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 2: women throw themselves at.

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00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: Him, kind of something you don't want to uh to

1159
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: brag about.

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00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. If you're like kids, you wouldn't

1161
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: believe the dime that was trying to.

1162
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Speaker 4: The broads, that.

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00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: That was just throwing themselves. I could have twisted every

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00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: nipple within a mile radius of this house, but I don't.

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00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: Maybe we just used all kids nineteen fifties terms described

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00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 3: like there was a bunch of broads, a bunch of themselves.

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00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: Couldn stop them. You know. I was about I was

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00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: about to do more nineteen fifties stuff, but then I

1169
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: was just like, Okay, this is getting it will get

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Speaker 2: sexist very.

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Speaker 4: Crop that's true. I got one, though.

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00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 3: God there's uh broads throwing themselves at me like Dwight

1173
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 3: eisen Howe throwing roads on the inter estate.

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Speaker 2: Wow that Wow.

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Speaker 1: See knowledge and no one is offended. I'm very impressed.

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Speaker 3: That's like the one thing I remember from APUs history,

1177
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 3: which was like he invested very heavily in the road infrastructure,

1178
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: just like this.

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Speaker 2: This dad's investing in these. Oh she is is salami.

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00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 2: I'm salami service, yummy. I mean all right, my husband

1181
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: and I are expats in a country where the average

1182
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: household considers themselves lucky to make two thousand to three

1183
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year. So we're talking where probably like

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like South America.

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00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's South Africa.

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00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: Lo low for the purpose I know, and just just

1187
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: for for reference, like that covers like two months rent

1188
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 2: maybe maybe maybe if you're lucky, if you got a deal.

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Speaker 2: Sam is the king of deals. I try, I try,

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Speaker 2: I'm like the Joker of deals. For the purpose of

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Speaker 2: not giving too much identifying information out, I will be

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Speaker 2: referring to the country as country Yugoslavia. Eureka, you figured

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Speaker 2: it out. No, I'm just e countries. But Yugoslavia is

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Speaker 2: not an e country.

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Speaker 3: I was about to say, you should go on country

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Speaker 3: country that begins with the country that begins Estonia.

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Speaker 4: No Estonia is pretty wealthy.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I don't know if El Salvador

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Speaker 2: l Salvadors. Maybe El Salvador country e l Salvador. Two

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Speaker 2: and a half years ago, my husband, who works in finance,

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00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: was promoted to a position in which he could finally

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Speaker 2: have the compensation authorita and projects.

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Speaker 4: That he always dreamed of.

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Speaker 2: Nice. The downside was the position would be in the

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00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: company's headquarters in another country, and basically it required us

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00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: to move away from our families and our friends. But

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Speaker 2: I was so excited for my husband and our kids

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00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 2: fifteen female and ten male, were so happy about experiencing

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Speaker 2: another culture as well as supporting their dad, that we

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Speaker 2: urged my husband to take the position.

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Speaker 1: So everyone's on board. Yeah, it sounds like good adventure,

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Speaker 1: family adventure.

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Speaker 2: Family adventure, making more money and exotic location sounds good.

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00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 2: What could go wrong? Because they were telling my husband

1215
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Speaker 2: they wanted to see him there as soon as possible

1216
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 2: a SAP, we agreed that he would go settle in

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00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: and we would fly over around two months later, it

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00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: seems that the moment his plane took off towards country

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Speaker 2: e marked the beginning of the end of all his

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00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: feelings of respect and appreciation for me and the kids.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, things are going downhill. After just two months apart,

1222
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: I could sense a drastic change in my husband. He

1223
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: went from calling me and the kids every day to

1224
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Speaker 2: every other day, and then reducing communication just to texts.

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Speaker 2: At first, I thought he was just busy settling in,

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00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: but the night before we went to fly out, he

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00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: video chatted us, and the kids asked him why he

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00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: seemed disappointed that they were coming, which is not what

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Speaker 2: you want.

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Speaker 4: That's awful.

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00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: He said that they were just imagining things and it

1232
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: was just how his face looked on camera, which you know,

1233
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: maybe maybe we'll maybe we'll see. As we settled into

1234
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: our new home, he shot us pretty resentful looks and

1235
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 2: continuously snapped at me not to touch this or that.

1236
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: Like most expats, we live in a home that was

1237
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 2: miles grander and show we were then we could ever

1238
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: get back home and with a lot of stuff like

1239
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: a company car and housekeeping services paid for by the company,

1240
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: and my husband had money to burn and started having

1241
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: ridiculously high expectations about how we were dressed and how

1242
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: we look. He bought himself loads of designer watches with

1243
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 2: his fellow corporate masters of the Universe friends, and spent

1244
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: lavishly at restaurants and bars on the company tab. He

1245
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: also invested quite a bit of our money in real

1246
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: estate here, since the government is pushing for foreign investors

1247
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: to invest, even adopting a more liberal outward rhetoric in

1248
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: order to be more appealing to the West. The country

1249
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 2: we live in has extreme wealth disparities, most of it

1250
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Speaker 2: unfortunately not held by locals. There is a center city

1251
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 2: where all the high end stores, hotels, and clubs and

1252
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: restaurants are, and then there are some homes in the

1253
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: country as well. And despite the fact that this country

1254
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: is technically conservative, escorting is rampant and is an outgrowth

1255
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: of the generally desperate economic straits of families and the

1256
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 2: fact that it is obvious who has money and therefore

1257
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: where to go and who to target. So basically a

1258
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: bunch of escorts are going to the city center to

1259
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: drum up some business. The Western folks. Escorts are apparently

1260
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: and basically everywhere in the area we live where there

1261
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: are restaurants or bars or entertainment. When men see dressed

1262
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: up local women in pairs roaming around and establishment, they

1263
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: just assumed they're escorts, and ninety percent of the time

1264
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: they're right.

1265
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Speaker 4: Oh man, God.

1266
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: An ex fat friend once asked a woman who approached

1267
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: him at a bar, which he did for a living,

1268
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: and she said, what does it look like I do

1269
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: for a living? I see. My husband then started criticizing

1270
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: my appearance a lot, and when we'd go out, he'd

1271
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: ask if I ever considered wearing my hair like women

1272
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: a B or C. Or we'll go out to eat

1273
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 2: as a family, and he will ignore what the kids

1274
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: are saying and just stare at different women, which's disrespectful, man, Absolutely,

1275
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: like keep your eyes on your food, or your wife,

1276
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: or your kids or your kids. Yeah, when his friends

1277
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: come over, my husband always brags in front of me

1278
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: about the women that approached him, not just at bars,

1279
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: but he also brags about how local women who work

1280
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: in the office with him are also exceptionally engaging. He

1281
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 2: even got pretty aggressive when we were hooking up and

1282
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: wanted to choke me and pee on me. This is

1283
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: getting dark, This is getting dark. When we tried some

1284
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 2: more intense stuff. He pulled my hair hard enough to

1285
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: draw blood, and when I said I didn't want to

1286
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: do it anymore, he started screaming that a bunch of

1287
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 2: women who look exactly like his type would be eager

1288
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: to do it all and more for less than I

1289
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: spend on dinner. Geez, god, jeez, I'm not having fun.

1290
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: My daughter found a bunch of contacts on his phone

1291
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: that blew up his phone with flirty messages on WhatsApp,

1292
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: and instead of at least pretending to be ashamed for

1293
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: a daughter's sake, he went, well, at least your dad's

1294
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: still attractive.

1295
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 4: How is that supposed to make a kid feel better?

1296
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you're cheating on mom, and it's like

1297
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: your dad's got some pretty good looks.

1298
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 4: Still looking.

1299
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: No, no, that's not how you handle it. And then

1300
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: it turned into a diet tribe about how he had

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00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: to give out the number to one woman because you

1302
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: look close to tears when he tried to pull away,

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00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: which likely story wrote, well, most women are respectful when

1304
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 2: a man is with his wife and or a family.

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00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes it happens where we're at restaurants and hotels and

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00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: my husband is just like a regular there for dinner,

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00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: and then women who I assume are also regulars will

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00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: disregard my presence and give me scornful once overs. When

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00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: we were out as a family and my husband sees

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00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: a woman give his attired and improving once over, he

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00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: will smile flirtatiously back and seem to bask in the

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00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: glow and not pay any attention to me or the kids.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, these are people who just want your money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, this has nothing nothing to do with your life,

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00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: nothing at all. I was trying to milk you for

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00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: all it's worth. Move moo mooh. I've been to support

1317
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: groups and have been told to let it wear off

1318
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: because many other wives have experienced their husbands being drunk

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00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: on attention. Also, what kind of support group is that?

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Speaker 4: That's terrible for your fault?

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00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: Just the boys will be boys, husbands will be husbands.

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00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 4: Who's giving this support?

1323
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a terrible support.

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00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: Support. Join the support, yeah, and we'll.

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00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: Give you better support than freaking whatever you're getting. But

1326
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: my husband seems to be getting more and more obsessed

1327
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: with the attention. My son is young, but he has

1328
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: gone from happy, go lucky to glaring at his father

1329
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: and whoever he is smiling at. My husband and I

1330
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: have tried to communicate, but everything turns into my fault.

1331
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: I do not appreciate his contributions enough, he says. I

1332
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: don't appreciate his contributions when I disagree with him, saying

1333
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: the kids don't need to learn how to do laundry

1334
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: because the housekeeper will do it for them. I also

1335
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: don't appreciate him when he continually asked a hook up

1336
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: for the third time in a night. I do not

1337
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: appreciate him when I move the furniture from how he

1338
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 2: organized it, or when I disagree with him on anything.

1339
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: I started tracking or banking information and found out that

1340
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: he made numerous large withdrawals. He denied vehemently that he

1341
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: was seeing escorts and said I seem jealous and had

1342
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: something against people who escorts, like I don't use escorts,

1343
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: But how dare you judge people who use escorts? I

1344
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: don't use them, but you should have judged them, oh man.

1345
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: I told him that to the contrary, I feel bad

1346
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: for people who need to put their lives in heuse

1347
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 2: at risk like this, and that these people don't have

1348
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: any forms of government assistant. We had a big fight

1349
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: that night, and I went to stay with a friend

1350
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 2: for the night to cool off. When I came back home,

1351
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: he glared at me and said, oh, you're back. What

1352
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: if I don't want you here anymore? Excuse me, rude,

1353
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: excuse me, rude. I do not know what to do.

1354
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: My support group keeps telling me that he will get

1355
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 2: off his power trip, but if I leave him, I

1356
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: will likely lose any assets I have here. My kids

1357
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: obviously still have school and love their classmate. I need

1358
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 2: any advice on how to save my marriage or how

1359
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 2: to get my husband to stop thinking that I am

1360
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: not enough for him when I haven't changed from when

1361
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: we were not expats, while he respected and appreciated me.

1362
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 2: Back at home, he scorns me here. What should I do?

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 4: I mean, god, what a bro?

1365
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: The post says it all, break up with him, leave

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01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: with the kids, get a divorce.

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01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, God, he like run far, far away. He's treating

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01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 3: you like garbage, like he's not doing anything at all.

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01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: And it's and also it's like it's just so clear

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01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: his behavior before and after, so it's like something there

1372
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 3: made him change.

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01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 4: And I think we all have a pretty good idea

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01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 4: of what that was?

1375
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, escorts, yep, but man, run for the hills, bro,

1376
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: just like Op. You deserve better, absolutely, and you know

1377
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 2: where our listeners should run to, Samuel Oh, they should

1378
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: run to the OKOP support group otherwise known as the

1379
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: subscribe button on YouTube, the follow button on Spotify and

1380
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: the follow button on thick Dog. Make sure to support

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01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 2: us wherever you can. And then I also like to

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01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: give a special shout out to our very like like

1383
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: our growing Patreon base. We really appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: new one as we have the O G.

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Speaker 3: Nina Campbell and.

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1390
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,120
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1391
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,840
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01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,120
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