1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: myself LeVar Arrington. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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We 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: got a conversation on well, what's going on in Cleveland 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: with the rookie mini camps? Yeah, and uh well we'll 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: keep it in the NFC, well the AFC North, I 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: should say, as well as we move into the show, 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: we are in the Fox Sports Radio, Fox Radio Sports 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Yeah, Studio and we're here, and fellas, how 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: are y'all feeling? TJ, I know how you feeling, because man, 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: I just came Sie. 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: We're finally getting what we needed and what we paid 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: is on. 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 4: Hey these last few days. 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 5: Man, wake up at like seven twenty and it's eighty. 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 6: Five degrees already, super sonny, Hey man, supper sunny, not 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 6: a not a cloud in the sky. 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 5: Everybody gonna be at the beach this entire weekend, man. 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: You know what, right I mean? I won't be at 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: the beach, but I heard the crews going to the be. 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 6: A happy mother day tall the mothers, man, y'all you 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 6: like y'all sales man on this great we can't win 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 6: about the have Yeah? 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, how's it feeling where you at? 39 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: Man? Oh man, just taking it all in. Approaching seven 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: seventy degrees today, it's not too bad, man. Tomorrow is 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: gonna be up high seventies and so hey man, it's 42 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: gonna be a beautiful weekend here. Also, that's all we 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: can really ask for. 44 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this, it's probably really hot in New 45 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: Orleans as well, and the ownership and decision makers will 46 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: be enjoying today's today's weather, as well as most likely 47 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: one Derek Carr, who is now calling it quits so 48 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: he will be able to relax wherever it is that 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: he's at as well. What what's what's your guy's initial 50 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: reaction to it? Obviously he calls it quit basically, I'm 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: assuming off of the reports on just how the rotator 52 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: cuff is damaged or how it's looking and how it's injured. 53 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: By him doing this, he's saving the New Orleans Saints. 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: And this is why I would say that they're probably 55 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: somewhere enjoying their day. But I think they're saving what 56 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars or so against their cap if I'm 57 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: reading it correctly, well, forty million. Let's see, it's thirty. 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: The quarterback is giving up thirty million dollars of the 59 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: forty million he got in a restructured team contract from 60 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: earlier this year. Could could have made them cut him 61 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: or do something. They obviously had a two million dollar 62 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: roster bonus that would be due to him, So it's 63 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of money and the contract. I guess the 64 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: way it goes when you announce a retirement is that 65 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: he's basically helping the New Orleans Saints to make some 66 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: money and have cap space. What was your guys' first 67 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: reaction to it? And is the bigger question here most 68 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: likely is where do the New Orleans Saints go? I 69 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: know they had to drive pick and shock, but we're 70 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: do the Saints going? 71 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 3: How do you guys. 72 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: Feel about Derek Carr's his career? I guess at this 73 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: point of him retiring. 74 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 6: Well, Number one, congrats to Derek Carr. It's probably one 75 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 6: of the more underrated quarterbacks in the league. I felt 76 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 6: like he had a good career. He had a really 77 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 6: good career to be a second round pick. Obviously his 78 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 6: brother was the first pick in the draft. But he 79 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 6: had a good career. But I know one thing that 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 6: I want, so congratulations on your career, Derek Carr. But 81 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 6: I'm not giving up thirty million to fully guaranteed money. 82 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: I'm not doing that. His base salary for twenty twenty 83 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 6: five was thirty million, and it was fully guaranteed. And 84 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 6: this is the thing when we as players like, oh, 85 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 6: take a discount, Oh let's do this, Oh let's help 86 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 6: the team out. Are we forgetting that the people that 87 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 6: are paying us are billionaires. They never give us free money. 88 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 6: They never just say, oh, we're just gonna pay them 89 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 6: just because. And so I don't like what like this 90 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 6: is thirty million dollars. 91 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: A fully gar on the table. 92 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I get it. 93 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 6: He got a ten million dollar roster bonus last month 94 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 6: and they're not gonna try to come after the twenty 95 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 6: eight million that of his sign the bonus which you 96 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 6: received a couple of years ago. But this year's salary 97 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 6: is fully guaranteed. We as players got to get out 98 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 6: of this media. Oh man, shit, he take a discount 99 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 6: for the team. Why would I take a discount for 100 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 6: somebody that's worth billions of dollars. I never understood that, 101 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 6: Oh he should take a discount. Well, why won't he 102 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 6: just pay me? He has more money than I'll ever have. 103 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 6: But congratulations to Derek Carr. But I'm not leaving thirty 104 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 6: million dollars on the table. 105 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: Now. 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 6: It looks as if they'll go with Tyler show the 107 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 6: rookie will get a chance, or I don't know why 108 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 6: I have a brain fart right now. The rookie from 109 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 6: South Carolina that was at Oklahoma, he's from eras Spencer Rattler. 110 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 6: So I believe Spencer Ratler Tyler Shaw and the kid 111 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 6: from Fred Go, my god, do what's wrong? 112 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 5: I think my age is getting me bro my memory. 113 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Start calling you c CT like a bad boy. 114 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 6: C Yeah, man, Yeah, you got Haner, Jake Hanner, Spencer Ratler, 115 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 6: Tyler Shaw. They're all young, all them dudes are young, 116 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 6: and so they'll they'll fight it out. It made the 117 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 6: best man win. But man, thirty million dollar dream and 118 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 6: hey man, this kind of piggy mag off what TJ said. Man, 119 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 6: you know, I had the opportunity to play against Derek 120 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 6: multiple times, and you know, did he have a great career? No, 121 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 6: but he was a solid quarterback in this league. I 122 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 6: would say he had good career. 123 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: I think one of the most you know, glaring and 124 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: you know, understated things about him and his career is 125 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: that in his eleven years as playing in this league, 126 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: he had eight head coaches, so he never really got 127 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: the you know, opportunity to really get his feet on 128 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: the ground, you know, from a coaching standpoint, and really 129 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: having those weapons around him to go to the next level. 130 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 4: Because that's what we all thought about Derek Carr. He 131 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 4: had He was a great athlete, He had all the 132 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: ability in the world to be a great quarterback in 133 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 4: his league, and we everybody was waiting for him to 134 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 4: take that next step, and he never got there. Whether 135 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: it was no coaching, the guys that he was surrounding around, 136 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: officer coordinators, whatever the case may be, but he never 137 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 4: got to that elite level of which the talent that 138 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: we knew that he all had. And to go back 139 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: off of what TJ said, if I get my MRI 140 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: R and then so on, I got a labor or 141 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: whatever the case, I mean, I'm going to get this surgery. 142 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: Somebody had to deal with me. I ain't giving nobody 143 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: no thirty plus forty million dollars back and it's guaranteed. Oh, 144 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: I'm going to get this surgery. I just found out 145 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 4: that I got a torn label. Remember m one, MRI riy. 146 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: So y'all gonuna have to deal with that. And another 147 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: thing about it is, I think Derek Carton knew that 148 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 4: he was going to retire a few weeks ago, and 149 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 4: unfortunately for the New Orleans Saints, it's a week too late. 150 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 4: Because there you was sitting there at the ninth pick. 151 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 4: If you knew that Derek Carr wasn't going to be 152 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: in the building, Mighty could have got you a Jackson Dot. 153 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 4: You might could have got you a Shador Sanders. You 154 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: don't think that I would, as I don't believe if 155 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: they knew that Derek Carr was going to retire. I 156 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: guarantee you for sure, if they would have took Jackson 157 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: Dot or either Shador Sanders at the ninth pick, they 158 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 4: would not go into the season with the unproven core 159 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 4: the backs that they have in in this quarterback room. 160 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 4: I really honestly believe. I really honestly believe that. And 161 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: I said this on on on this network maybe about 162 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: three or four months ago, being at Kellen Moore was 163 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 4: a new head coach of the New Orleans Saints, and 164 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: everybody looked at me when I was crazy, and I 165 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: said that I would. You still am still all right, 166 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: So I would not be surprised being a Kellen Moore 167 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: is a former quarterback in his league, that Aaron Rodgers 168 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 4: may have the possibility of being a quarterback for the 169 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: New Orleans Saints. 170 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: Hmmm mmmm. Interesting. 171 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this, and I agree with a lot 172 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: of what you guys are saying. Definitely, congratus due an 173 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: eleven season career, that's a beautiful thing. If you can 174 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: make it to double digits, for certain, his pension will 175 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: be fine. And he's made a ton of money full 176 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: time pro bowler. You gotta, you know, gotta give up 177 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: props for that. And and and you know what, one 178 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: thing about Derek Carr, he did it the right way. 179 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 3: As a person. 180 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: He's always been to me, one of those guys you know, 181 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: it's it can be used pretty loosely at times, but 182 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: he's a pretty class act type of dude. I mean, 183 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: if you've ever heard him interview. I've never met the 184 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: young man, but always when I've seen him interview, he 185 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: seems to have a very high level of self accountability 186 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: as well as accountability for the people that are, you know, 187 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: on his team and within his his ecosystem. He's always 188 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: come across as a pretty impressive, like, you know, dude 189 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: to me, and it seemed genuine, you know, when they 190 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: were going through some things, and you know, when he 191 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: was with the Raiders and he was talking about how 192 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: he felt about things that had taken place and how 193 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: he could be better and just taking you know a 194 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: lot of responsibility on his hands that you know, it 195 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: just it created a level of respect for me that 196 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: I had for him just watching how he handled some 197 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: really really tough moments because you know, I played for 198 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: a really se team and and it's not always easy 199 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: to be able to stand in there as a focal 200 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: point of a team that is not doing well, doing poorly, 201 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: and being able to say the right things. It can 202 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: be emotionally draining, it could be physically draining. It's just 203 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: taxing on your body. It's taxing on the people that 204 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: you care about, both in the locker room and in 205 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: your home. And so that's a lot to that's a 206 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: lot of weight to carry. It didn't get any better 207 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: going to New Orleans, you know, didn't The situation didn't 208 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: go from better or go from worse to better. It 209 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: was still one of those struggle situations for Derek Carr. 210 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: So I hope he can find peace. You know. 211 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: One of the biggest things I always say, you know, 212 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: you guys had an opportunity to win, and that's like, 213 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, that's not always a thing. 214 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 6: I know, Hey, do you think it would have been 215 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 6: like the team could have said, uh tin could the 216 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 6: approach car and his people and say, hey, we know 217 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 6: your salary for twenty twenty five is guaranteed at thirty million. 218 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 5: How about we just give you fifteen I mean, that 219 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 5: would have been. 220 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: The right thing to do. 221 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 6: It's fully guaranteed, have surgery, you out for the year, 222 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 6: fully guaranteed. 223 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 4: No doubt about it. I'm going under the blade. 224 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: I don't have to do it anyway. He's going to have, yeah, 225 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: surgery anyway, because. 226 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 4: If you had a surgery, he was gonna miss the 227 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: season anyway. 228 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, you could at least say, okay, 229 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 6: we'll give you fifteen million, Like, are you kidding? 230 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 5: I just don't understand that. 231 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: You guys are are I mean, you're accurate in what 232 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: I need. 233 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 5: To go be to go be an agent, because whoever 234 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 5: his agent is is terrible. 235 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: So from what I understand, you know, he heard his 236 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 4: you know, he played games last season, he ended up 237 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 4: hurting the shoulder, so his goal was to rehab the 238 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 4: shoulder without getting surgery on it. And that right there, 239 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 4: I think was the wrong move, you know, from the jump, 240 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: him saying that he's going to rehabit without getting surgery 241 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 4: and then I'll, you know, I'll see how I feel 242 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 4: and after the draft or April May, whatever the case 243 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 4: may be. And then he gets back to throwing the football, 244 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 4: and now, you know, he comes out and says, okay, 245 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 4: I have a basically I still have the same injury 246 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 4: and has not healed, so therefore I'm going to retire. 247 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: I think he should have took the initiative of going 248 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 4: to get the MR after the season and then making 249 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 4: the decision to say, you know what, I'm going to 250 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: get surgery. And maybe he still had the opportunity to 251 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 4: be the starter on opening day in September, because that 252 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: would have given him, you know, ten eleven months to 253 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: heal or get ready, but whatever the case may be. 254 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: But trying to heal at this stage of your career, 255 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 4: thirty plus years old, eleven years in this business and 256 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: you're just going to try to rehabit without surgery. I 257 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 4: think that was a wrong move by him. But yet 258 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 4: and still I'm still going to get that surgery so 259 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: I can get my as absolutely. You know. 260 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: I think maybe he felt as though once he knew 261 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: he was going to need surgery because maybe he didn't 262 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: want to get the surgery. Know, some some dudes ain't 263 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: into like going under that blade. 264 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 5: If LeVar go under it, would he have to hap 265 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 5: it just for quality of life? 266 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: Even Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 267 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. 268 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: I don't. 269 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, because if it were that he was 270 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: going to inevitably need to get the surgery, surgery. 271 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: He still needs a surgery. So now he's going to 272 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: get the surgery with no cheat. 273 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: But he might not have known that he was going 274 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: to have to get the surgery that he was entitled to. 275 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: It was a pay surgery. 276 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. Oh listen, I hear what you're saying. 277 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: And his insurance believe you me that whatever insurance is 278 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: going on. And however that that situation, if he's got 279 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: to get surgery, is I mean, it's going to be 280 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: taken care of. I mean, I don't. I don't see 281 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: that being any type of an issue. And he's probably 282 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: going to get a medical settlement out of that situation. 283 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's other elements that are connected 284 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: to what's taking place with him, but. 285 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: There's no medical settlement in this one. This one right here, 286 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: he opted out himself. This is not him being getting 287 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: hurt in a team releasing but he did. 288 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: He did get hurt though it did come from him. 289 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 4: But the team did not release him or cut him. 290 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 4: While he was injured. 291 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, there you go. Yeah yeah, right, yeah, 292 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know what what how it'll all 293 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: play out. I'm sure they will have those conversations though, 294 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent like they will have those conversations, and 295 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: and whatever that is that they come up with, they'll 296 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: they'll come up with something. They ain't going to just be, 297 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, nothing, there'll there there will be some type 298 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: of something. And and and as the New Orleans Saints 299 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: should be involved to a degree because he did hurt 300 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: himself in the game. Now, whatever happened after, you know, 301 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: after all of that and into the offseason, whatever, that's 302 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: a conversation. But I think there will be a conversation 303 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: had between both sides as to what takes place. But anyway, 304 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: congratulations on a good career. Derek Carr has announced that 305 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: he's retiring from the National Football League and obviously was 306 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: a member of the New Orleans Saints team. 307 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: We got a lot to get to. 308 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks, Let's keep the thing quarterback friendly, keep 309 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback conversation going on. You got many camps going 310 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: on in and around the league. The Cleveland Browns obviously 311 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: they held their mini camp, and well We're going to 312 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: have a discussion on that because one of the draft 313 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: pick quarterbacks were getting the first reps while the other wasn't, 314 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: and that's going to be a conversation. We're also going 315 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: to get to George Pickens at some point too. Yep, 316 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: he was traded went to the Cowboys. I'm sure I 317 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: heard that. During the course of the week, we're going 318 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: to talk about all those things and more right here 319 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: on Up on Game. 320 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio. We'll be right back. 321 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 322 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 323 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 324 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: listen live. 325 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome back in. 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How about that. 344 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: But before we get to that, we will talk a 345 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: little George Pickens possibly, and we will certainly talk about 346 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: this topic right now, fellas, the mini camps are underway 347 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: and people are the young bucks are in and they're 348 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: getting the work in. 349 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: The free agents are getting their work. 350 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: In, and well, Dylan Gabriel is getting the first team 351 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: QB reps for the Browns. We all know the Shador 352 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: Sanders conversation and everything that has surrounded him coming out 353 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: of the draft, going into the draft as well, it's 354 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: been the biggest story for the NFL. But Dylan Gabriel 355 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: was the third round pick to Chador being the fifth 356 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: round pick. This is what Kevin Stefanski had to say 357 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: about the reps they are getting in practice. 358 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't look into anything. I think you'll see 359 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 4: the whole weekend going through the spring. I mean, we 360 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 4: don't pay too close attention to who's in their. 361 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: First, all right, so they don't pay attention to who 362 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: was in there first. I think we all know that's 363 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: cap You definitely pay attention because the reps are limited. 364 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: But I want to throw this one out at you guys. 365 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: You have a I think a very real interesting situation 366 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: here Deshaun Watson. I think he's out as the quarterback. 367 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll ever play another down for Cleveland Browns. 368 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: So while he is considered a quarterback that's on the roster, 369 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't look at him as being how they're going 370 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: to determine what their quarterback room looks like. So that 371 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: leaves Flacko, Picket, Dylan, and Sanders on the team. Now, 372 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: I made this bold proclamation dur in the week fellas, 373 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: and I know it might sound outland and it might 374 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: sound crazy, but. 375 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 3: Walk me back. I feel like this you're in the AFC. 376 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: North Stefanski, although having great success winning Coach of the 377 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: Year awards in previous years, is really in my estimation 378 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: on a super super scorching hot hot seat this upcoming season, Fellas, 379 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: you don't have a quarterback perceivably, it's not established. This 380 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: could be a do or die year for this coaching 381 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: staff and whether they keep their job. So now with 382 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: that being said, you bring in Flacco, you bring in 383 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: Pickett because Deshaun Watson has a setback and the injury, 384 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: it sounds like they're moving on. As I mentioned, you 385 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: have Flacco, approven quarterback with experience, but he's old. Can 386 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: he hold up? Can he be a good player at 387 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: this point in his career question mark? But I think 388 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: that I think going into it, probably the most confidence 389 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: is in Joe Flacco. He has a history of having 390 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: success with the team. They let him go, they've brought 391 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: him back. You bring pick it in. He's not proven, 392 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: but he does have experience and direct experience in the 393 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: AFC North, obviously getting drafted by the Steelers and playing 394 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: for the Steelers before getting sent away to the Eagles, 395 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: which by the way, he got an opportunity to learn 396 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts and win a Super Bowl with the Eagles. 397 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 3: So he has. 398 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: Experienced, but he's relatively largely unproven in terms of, you know, 399 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: being able to win and win in the AFC North. 400 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: Then that brings you down. You round out the bottom 401 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: with a third round drive pick in a successful college 402 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: career and winner, and Dylan Gabriel led the Oregon Ducks 403 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: and after a transfer, obviously to winning the Big Ten 404 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: title in their inaugural year. I hate to admit it, 405 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: but they did in their inaugural year in the Big Ten. 406 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: And then the probably the biggest surprising deal of it 407 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: all is they get Shador Sanders in the fifth round. 408 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: Now I set the table to say on those things, 409 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: fellas that I think that it is hard to carry 410 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: more than three quarterbacks on a roster, and that third one, 411 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: in my estimation, is probably a practice squad guy. So 412 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: one of these guys has to go. I do not 413 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: believe that Flacco or Picket will go because of what 414 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: I just detailed. Now with Dylan and Sanders, I think 415 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: they're both battling it out for that third string quarterback 416 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: slash practice squad quarterback, which means that there's a strong 417 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: possibility that one of these guys are going to get 418 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: let go. I seem to think I believe, and y'all 419 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: walk it the way y'all want to walk it. There's 420 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: a strong possibility that Shador Sanders is not a Cleveland 421 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: Brown by the time we get to the final roster 422 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: of what the Cleveland Browns will look like. I think 423 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders gets an opportunity at some point, But I 424 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: don't believe that this scenario, now that I've thought about 425 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: it and went over it and went through it, I 426 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: don't know that that opportunity. I don't believe that that 427 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: opportunity may be in Cleveland. I think he needs to 428 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: build his resume as much as he possibly can in 429 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: terms of his reputation and whatever that may look like 430 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: to people. But I think it happens with another team. 431 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 6: What say, y'all, I mean, that's very possible. I've been 432 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 6: told from somebody that has a good understanding of what's 433 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 6: going on, Canny Picket or Dylan Gabriel will be the starter. 434 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 6: That's what I've been told. One of those two will 435 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 6: be the starter. Flack On Shadar will battle to be 436 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 6: the number three. 437 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: For SUTURE. 438 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 6: When you're drafted that late. Let's just be honest that 439 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 6: it's very possible that you can get released. Now I 440 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 6: doubt that that happens. It really is gonna come down 441 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 6: to how does he look at OTA's how does he 442 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 6: look in mini camp, how will he look in training camp? 443 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 6: And now the preseason games. That is going to be 444 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 6: critical for him because there's just some players where you 445 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 6: may if people didn't think Shadu was good in uh 446 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 6: in shorts, when you put the helm in the shorter 447 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 6: pads on, it's a different ball game. Now when when 448 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 6: it's live and you can get hit and you got 449 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 6: a process and you got to get rid of that ball, 450 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 6: it's a different ball game. And so when that comes 451 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 6: around in August, we don't see. But what I've been told, 452 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 6: Kenny Picker or Dylan Gabriel is gonna be the starter. 453 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 6: Shadur and Joe Flacca will battle for the third quarterback 454 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 6: in spot. And if Flacco wins it, do they push 455 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 6: your during the practice? Try to release them. If Shadur 456 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 6: wins it, Flacco's gonna be released. 457 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's so many, you know, different, you 458 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 4: know scenarios I think that they're dealing with from a 459 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: quarterbacks then point. You know, LeVar just touched on. You 460 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 4: know you're in the AFC North. You need defense for 461 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 4: me if I'm the Cleveland Browns knowing what I know, now, 462 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: I'm going defense. I'm gonna take Abduke Carter at number two, 463 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 4: and I'm going to have Miles Garrett and Abduke Carter 464 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: bookends on my defense, and I still could have got 465 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 4: your door come back around in the third or fourth round. 466 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 4: So that's if you ask me, I'm going I'm playing defense. 467 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 4: Because if you think, if you're going into the season 468 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 4: saying that Kenny Pickett's going to be your starter, then 469 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 4: why would you trade away your second pick to Jacksonville, 470 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: trade away take to trade away Travis Hunter. If you 471 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 4: already have it in your plans that Kenny Picktt is 472 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: going to be your starter, why would you take a 473 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 4: Dylan Gabriel and as your Door Sanders in the third 474 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 4: and fifth round. That absolutely makes zero sense to me. 475 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 4: So there can only be three spots on this on 476 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: this roster for in the NFL team from a quarterback standpoint, 477 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: So what happens if Dylan Gabriel goes out there, he's 478 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 4: taking all your number one reps, Shardor goes in takes 479 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 4: reps and Shadoor centers looks better than anybody everybody, So 480 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: what do you do now moving forward? If you're Kevin 481 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 4: Sefanski and his team. 482 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever. I think when it's UH 483 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: and you guys both you guys will both know this. 484 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: When you're drafted so late in a or you come 485 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: in as a free agent, it becomes a numbers game. 486 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: It's not even really based upon. 487 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: It becomes a game if you're not getting reps, if 488 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 4: you're going out there playing the position and you're looking 489 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 4: halfway decent, or you're looking good or better than the 490 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 4: guys at that drafting in front of you. For him, 491 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a numbers game because I think 492 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: that he's a better pure quarterback than Dylan Graybild from 493 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 4: his start. 494 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: I think. 495 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 4: I don't believe it's I don't believe it's the numbers 496 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: of games with him. 497 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: I think it happens quite a bit with late round 498 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: draft picks. They have phenomenal preseasons and they end up 499 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: getting cut just like everybody else. 500 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just what I've seen. 501 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: I just don't I don't know. It kind of takes 502 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 4: me back to the whole, you know, the size thing. Nobody. 503 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 4: I don't think that Dylan Gabriel will come into this, 504 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: come into the league at his size and be able to, 505 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 4: you know, survey defenses, be a pocket quarterback at five nine, 506 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 4: five ten or whatever the case may be. It's kind 507 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: of the same thing. I wouldn't say that he's a 508 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: better quarterback than Bryce Young, and we look at some 509 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 4: of the struggles that he's been having his first two 510 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 4: years in the league. From a pure quarterback and standpoint, 511 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 4: he's not a better quarterback than Bryce Young. So so 512 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: what do you go from there? Do you think that 513 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 4: he's a better quarterback? Was he a better quarterback in 514 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 4: college than Shador Sanders was? Or do you think he's 515 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 4: a better quarterback as a professional quarterback then Shador Sanders be. 516 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 4: I don't think that's going to be the case at all. 517 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 4: If he does get cut, it won't be because of 518 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 4: his performance. 519 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: It's probably going to be based upon the numbers game. 520 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: That's what I'm just I mean, I think that that again, 521 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: if we're I I took I removed the emotions, I 522 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: removed the names. I just looked at it from a 523 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: pure sensible standpoint in terms of what's the plausibility of 524 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback being in Shador Sanders situation making the roster. 525 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: It's not plausible in any other circumstance. If we were 526 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: to just say you brought it in a very very 527 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: probably considered to be the toughest division in the league, 528 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, people would say argue, maybe some other ones, 529 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean the North NFC North did pretty well this 530 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: past year. You could maybe argue to admit, some people 531 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: would say AFC West. Some people would debate that, but 532 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: no one will ever debate that the AFC North is 533 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: always in the conversation for toughest division, especially boasting really 534 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: really strong defenses. I think that it's very hard to 535 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: put the the concept that you put out there TJ 536 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: and saying that it's between Pickett and Dylan Dylan Gabriel. 537 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: And the reason why I think that that's a difficult 538 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: one is, for one, I don't think you're gonna walk 539 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: a Dylan Gabriel out and start him. 540 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: I just don't think he's going He's not going to 541 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: be a starter. 542 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 5: Games Dylan Gabrils starting college. 543 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 4: Man, I get it. 544 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't care. I don't really be I 545 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: really don't care. 546 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: I think putting yourself in a situation where you put 547 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: a Dylan Gabriel or a Shador Sanders or any of 548 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: these other quarterbacks. 549 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: To be honest, I mean, it could have been the 550 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: kid that went number one, cam Ward. I don't care 551 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: what their name is. 552 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: If it's not a Joe Burrow type guy or Lamar 553 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: Jackson type guy that is a transcendent, transcending type of 554 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: player and talent, I think that that is a rough 555 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: go to be a starter in the AFC North as 556 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,479 Speaker 1: a rookie, especially a third round draft pick. 557 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: Ask Kenny Pickett and look at what happened to Kenny Pickett. 558 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 6: And listen though the Cleveland Browns, we don't know this 559 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 6: what I'm they may be tanking for a quarterback for 560 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 6: next year. 561 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 5: Guys, they may not care. 562 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 4: We heard that. 563 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 6: In that scenario, they may just throw whomever out there. 564 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 6: And if the kid can play, oh wow, it's a revelation. 565 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 6: If somebody fall, somebody's got to take the fall for 566 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 6: that though. 567 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: TJ like, and if i'm if, I am Kevin Stefanski, 568 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: I am not willing to take. 569 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: The fall to get Archie Manning. 570 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm not because if if, if, what you're saying is 571 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: true and we're going to tank the season, try to 572 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: get Archie Manning that has nothing to do with my 573 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: job security. That has absolutely zero to do with my 574 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: job security. I gotta win in I'm not gonna make it. 575 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make it through an entire season tanking 576 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: to get Archie Manning if I'm the head coach, So 577 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: why would I Why would I ever put a guy 578 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: in there that's gonna basically take away my ability to 579 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: be the head coach of this team. I wouldn't do that, 580 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: And that's why I wouldn't put I wouldn't put Dylan 581 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: Gabriel in there either. 582 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 4: Go good God, I just I just don't think right now, 583 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 4: anybody in the front office for the Cleveland Browns with 584 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: the five or six quarterbacks that you look at in 585 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 4: that quarterback when we're back right now, has drastically changed 586 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 4: the projection of this football team. 587 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: Joe the playoffs last year there, Joe Flacco's last year there, 588 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: he led them to the playoffs. Believe he won, he 589 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: won Comeback Player of the Year with that that that 590 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: performance that he put forth when he took over for 591 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: Watson's I believe that's why they brought him back. 592 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 4: Can you at least agree with that, Joe, Joe Flacco 593 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 4: is the best option for this, I believe that. I 594 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 4: believe that to be true, so your reports are accurate. 595 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: TJ. 596 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: I don't understand why why Joe Flacco is fighting for 597 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: a roster spot when he was the reason why they 598 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: made it the playoffs when he last played for the 599 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: tape because a. 600 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 6: Year they don't they don't want to go to the 601 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 6: playoffs with Joe Flacco as their quarterback because where's the future. 602 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 3: There is a future. 603 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 4: There is no future. 604 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 6: There is no future in that. But there's Joe there 605 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 6: you have. Yeah, there is their best option. They need 606 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 6: a quarterback for the future. That's what they need. They 607 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 6: need a quarterback for the. 608 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 4: So and shador sand those are the best two options 609 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 4: that you have right now moving forward for the Cleveland 610 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 4: Browns for the quarterback of the future. 611 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 6: And if one of them plays well, there's a quarterback 612 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 6: of the future. And if they do not, I don't 613 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 6: I don't believe either one of them plays that well. 614 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: I don't see how they get the opportunity. We can 615 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: you Pickett and Joe Flacco being on the roster. Again, 616 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: if you look at it from a plausible, sensible perspective, 617 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco comes in as he's a he's aware and 618 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: familiar with the offensive terminology in the skin. 619 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 3: He's had success in the scheme. 620 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: He has had success and has unlimited experience and has 621 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: won a super Bowl coming out of the AFC North. 622 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: If I'm going to leverage this season, I'm leveraging that 623 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: season going in with Flacco, and if Flaco can hold 624 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: up physically, then in my estimation, I gotta have pick 625 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: it on on reserve. I do not believe a third 626 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: round draft pick or a fifth round draft pick will 627 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: get enough reps to be able to supplant the number 628 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: two guy, which means, now one of those two have 629 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: to go, because you're not going to carry four quarterbacks. 630 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: On your roster. 631 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: You'll carry three, and you will put one, You'll put 632 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: that one, that third one on your practice squad while 633 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: you have two active quarterbacks. And I do not see 634 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: that being both of those guys that got drafted, which 635 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: means one of those draft picks is going to get 636 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: let go. That's what I think. 637 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 3: But we'll happen. 638 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 6: Well, have the Everybody knows Flacco is the best quarterback 639 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 6: on the roster. Everybody knows that the Cleveland Browns have 640 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 6: a plan. And let's see if it falls the way 641 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 6: they wanted to fall. 642 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they gonna fall, for certain, but how far 643 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 3: we don't know. 644 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: Now. 645 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people wobble wobble and they don't fall down, 646 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: but the Cleveland Browns have been known to do it. 647 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: Anyway, Let's get a trending from Eyelaw. 648 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: I told joall we was going to try to get 649 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: to George Pickens and Jordan Hudson, but we're gonna talk 650 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: Pickens next, but first, let's get a trending from Isaac 651 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: Loewen Cron what you got? 652 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: Hello? 653 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 7: And I got more quarterback news today because four time 654 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 7: Pro Bowl QB Derek Carr is retiring after eleven seasons 655 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 7: because of a torn laborm as well as significant degenerative 656 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 7: changes to his rotator cuff. Car said of his career 657 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 7: in a statement today, I've been incredibly blessed and forever 658 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 7: grateful and humbled by this experience. In the NBA Playoffs. 659 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 7: On Friday night, Denver defeated Oklahoma City at overtime one 660 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 7: thirteen to one oh four for a two games to 661 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 7: one lead. Today's action tips off at three point thirty 662 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 7: Eastern with Game three from Madison Square Garden and the 663 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 7: New York Nicks leading the Boston Celtics two games to 664 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 7: none and the Stanley Cup playoffs. On Friday night, the 665 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 7: Winnipeg Jets shut out the Dallas Stars for nothing to 666 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 7: tie the series at one. And in Major League Baseball 667 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 7: on Friday night, the Los Angeles Dodgers scored six runs 668 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 7: in the top of the ninth inning to win at 669 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 7: Arizona fourteen to eleven, including sho Hey O'tani's go ahead 670 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 7: three run home run, his twelfth of the season, and 671 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 7: Jason Dominguez of the New York Yankees hit three home 672 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 7: runs in three consecutive at bats, including a grand slam. 673 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 7: He also homeward from both sides of the plate in 674 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 7: a ten two victory over the A's guys. Back to you, 675 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 7: dang switch hitter, Dune Thanky, ill appreciate it. Hey, listen, 676 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 7: we're gonna take a quick break. On the other side 677 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 7: of break. Here's what we're gonna do. 678 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk Jordan Hudson, Yeah, and unc facilities, you know, 679 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: University of North Carolina. We're going to talk that we're 680 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: gonna take George Pickens into our two when we bring 681 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: cuffs the legend in because he could talk about football 682 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: too as well as basketball. So that's what we're gonna do. 683 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break on the other side 684 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: of We're going talk to UNC football facilities, rumors, all 685 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: that on. 686 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 3: S up on Game. Yup, it's TJ. 687 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 1: Huschman's Eyes Plexcobers on LaVar Rington. This Fox Sports Radio. 688 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 689 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 690 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 691 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 2: listen live. 692 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 3: All right, all right, welcome back into the show. It's 693 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 3: up on Game. 694 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 4: You know what it is. 695 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: We got hour two coming at you soon. We got 696 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: cups to legend coming on from some dude show as 697 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: well in hour two. But first, before we get to 698 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: the breaking into the hour fellas, we got a couple 699 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: minutes the whole Jordan Hudson, who is the girlfriend of 700 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, the new head coach of the UNC Tar 701 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: Hills football team. There were reports that came out on 702 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: Friday that she was the girlfriend of Bill Belichick, that 703 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: is was banned from the football facilities. 704 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 3: Comes out. 705 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: UNC comes out and denies that that took place. What 706 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: needs to happen here, fellas, because this doesn't seem to 707 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: be a story that is going. 708 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 3: To go away. 709 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: Is Bill Belichick making a bad move here by not 710 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: nipping this in the bud? How should this be approached? 711 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: And who should be the one that's the catalyst of it? 712 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: Should be you and see the school? Should it be 713 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick the coach? Who should have be a team effort? 714 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: Should it be Jordan herself the girlfriend Hudson that says, 715 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to remove myself from the situation and not 716 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: be confusion on the program? 717 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 3: What do you think should happen here? 718 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 4: Man? 719 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 5: What is going on? 720 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 4: Like? 721 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 5: Man? 722 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 2: Like? 723 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 4: Really? 724 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 6: This really boggles my mind because again, the Bill Belichick 725 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 6: that was portrayed to everybody with the New England Patriots, 726 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 6: this goes against everything that we thought he was. You 727 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 6: couldn't even I remember somebody playing with the Patriots telling 728 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 6: me Bill Belichick told everybody it's probably gonna be a snowstorm. 729 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 6: I don't care what you do. Nobody better be late 730 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 6: to practice. So if you got to stay at a hotel, 731 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 6: stay at a hotel. One of his best players was 732 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 6: late daily is time Thomas. Yeah, he couldn't. He couldn't 733 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 6: get out his garage because it was packed. 734 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 4: Man. 735 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 6: By the time he got the practice, Bill Belichick cust him. 736 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 6: I sent him home and find him and then he 737 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 6: got cut. I'm like, bro, what you're supposed to do? 738 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 6: Walk to practice? Now? I weren't like you were that strict, 739 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 6: knowing it's the way, and all this is getting out 740 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 6: over a twenty four year old woman that you're dating, 741 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 6: and she's running the show like it seems as if 742 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 6: she's running the show. I mean, for me, I have 743 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 6: no words because to Bill Belichick that we were that 744 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 6: we thought how he was in New England is a 745 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 6: complete opposite of what we see and we're hearing of 746 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 6: what's going. 747 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 5: On at the University of North Carolina. I'm dumbfounded. 748 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 4: I don't believe that she's really running the show at all. 749 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 4: I really don't believe that just happens to be that 750 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 4: as Bill Belichick probably the greatest coach of all time, 751 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 4: and this girl being at its twenty four, she's attractive, 752 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 4: and nobody thought that Bill even had this, you know, 753 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 4: in his back pocket, so to speak. But obviously none 754 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 4: of this stuff is true. If the university comes out 755 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 4: and says that one of these things are true about 756 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 4: the Jordan Hutches. She's still allowed in the facilities, but 757 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 4: it remains a distraction because everybody keeps talking about it. Yeah, 758 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 4: so I think that he needs us to come out 759 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 4: and say, listen, everything's fine. She's brooking in the facility. 760 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: You know she's my girlfriend. Get over it, move on, 761 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,479 Speaker 4: let's continue to play football. I think that's what needs 762 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 4: to happen. Just put it to bed, put it the rest, 763 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 4: and I think everybody will have a better understanding of 764 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 4: what's going on. 765 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: Well, it's definitely become a topic of conversation, and I 766 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: wonder how much pressure puts on Bill Belichick to have 767 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: success in his inaugural year with the UNC Tar Hills 768 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: leading and coaching this team. The only reason why it's 769 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: the topic again is because of the age gap and 770 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: the age difference. It'll be interesting to see if she 771 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: if she leans into it, like I'm getting a lot 772 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: of attention, because the appearance is that she seems to 773 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: like it. It seems like she likes the attention. But 774 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: I'll say this, it seems like Bill Belichick likes the 775 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 1: attention too. So we'll see out all played. Much like 776 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: what y'all just said about this, relationship. We're gonna just 777 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: let it be what is going to be, and we're 778 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: gonna put it to bid. Talking about this hour up 779 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: on Game, we got hour two coming at you in 780 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: a matter of moments, that's right. We got Cuffs the 781 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: Legend coming up. We're gonna talk NBA playoffs, and we're 782 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: gonna wanna start off with George Pickens as well. 783 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 3: This is up on Game, this is Fox Sports Radio. 784 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 3: We'll be right back