1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: We might say five hundred million for first basemen, even 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: as good as Lad Guerrero. That's ridiculous. No team should 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: do that. But the point of what I wrote was 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: that this should have been settled long ago. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: Sad scoop with Ken Rosenthal. Oh yeah, he is at 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 2: spring training camp. So let's get into it right now 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: with our FT senior insider, Ken abs challenge system coming soon. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: Quick question for you, and then you can obviously give 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: us your thoughts on it. Do you like the strike 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: zone box or not? Eighty three percent of our audience does. 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it, but I also recognize that it's 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: often inaccurate, and that's been a complaint baseball people have 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: had for a long time with the kzone. And if 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: it's inaccurate, it just leads to false perceptions. It leads 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: people to get upset that maybe he shouldn't be getting upset. 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: So from that perspective, while I like the idea, I 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: want to see where the pitches. Obviously it's problematic. 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: Great Ken and I love it on the broadcast, so 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: I think I think that they should stick with him. 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: By the way, how's the Ranch, How's Glendale the Ranch? 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: How is it today? 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Because it looks so ranch is always nice, a very nice. 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: Well, you're on the right side. You're on the Dodger side. Though. 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: The Dodger side, people do understand, has palm trees and 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: all this stuff. The white Sox side desert has nothing 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: else on you kids. Dodgers has like pools, blue asses, 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: white Sox side nothing. 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't know about pools at oases, but the Dodger 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: side might be a little nicer. I can confirm. 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: That it is way nicer. There's no there's little is 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: a small statement for you, Kim. I'm just saying before 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: we get into anything else, all right. I got to 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: ask this because you are in Dodgers camp and they've 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: signed everybody. Are they gonna sign mir Guerrero Junior next 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: year when he's a free agent too, and it's put 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: Freddy Freeman in second base to try it? I don't know. 37 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: I mean, what's what's going on there? The miss the 38 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: deadline in Toronto? Where's he gonna sign? Wow? 39 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: That's great question. I don't know. I would say that 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: the New York team is both in a first base 41 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of talk about Boston, which 42 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: I sort of get because obviously he has talked about 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: going there seemingly to his friends. But if Tristan cass 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: Has becomes a real player, maybe that's off the table now. 45 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: Then again, if Tristan Casss keeps playing general manager as 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: he did yesterday, I believe it was telling everyone where 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: he thought the infielder should be aligned this year, with 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: Devers a third Redman at second. I am not so 49 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: sure that the Red Sox are gonna want to tolerate 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: that for too long. 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: Hey, Ken, I think Toronto is, and really Canada is 52 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: fuming right now over them not being able to even 53 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: really apparently come close to an extension. So what did 54 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: you take of what happened the other day? I read 55 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: your article about Bladdie Junior. I highly encourage everyone to 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: check that out in The Athletic because it also gives 57 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: a really good history lesson on this front office and 58 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: how really the success was with Alex Anthopoulos's player in 59 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen for the Alcs and and Vladdie Junior's career 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: actually kind of compares to Fernando Tatis in terms of timing. 61 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: And you can get into this, but how they really 62 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 2: missed the boat multiple times right now? 63 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: Obviously they could have corrected everything if they just gave 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: him the right off for this time around. But basically 65 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: the point of what I wrote was that they had 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: chances here. They had chances well before this. Now. If 67 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: you remember, back in February twenty twenty one, that's when 68 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: Tatis signed his fourteen year, three hundred and forty million 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: dollars deal with the Padres, A lot of people, including myself, 70 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: questioned that deal. That deal now is looking pretty good. 71 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: And that was the same year. 72 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: Guerrero, after that contract was signed, went off. He had 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: his best year for the Blue Jays, and after that season, 74 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: or even before that, they could have offered him the 75 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: Tatis deal right something similar, and at that point you 76 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: probably would have taken it. I would imagine he definitely 77 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: would have taken. So that was a chance. They had 78 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: chances after that as well. And the history here is 79 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: not great. Early on they told the world that they 80 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: planned to manipulate a service time. They were going to 81 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: keep him in the miners. They didn't feel he was 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: defensively sound enough. It was for his own good, all 83 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: this stuff he gets hurt. It didn't turn out to 84 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: be an issue in that sense because he wouldn't have 85 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: been available necessarily, but that was the plan. Then they 86 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: take him to a hearing, an arbitration hearing in twenty 87 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: twenty four. 88 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 4: They lost that hearing, and there's this. 89 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: History of insufficient offer or at least offers he deemed insufficient, 90 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: and it's kept off by yesterday. Now, if you're a fan, 91 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: you might say five hundred million for first basement, even 92 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: as good as Vlad Guerrero. 93 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: That's ridiculous. 94 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: No team should do that. But the point of what 95 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: I wrote was that this should have been settled long ago, 96 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: and he should have been extended long ago. So now 97 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: AJ asked where he's going to go. People say, well, 98 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: maybe it's Toronto. Maybe they come back to him. I 99 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: guess that's conceivable. They can come back to him with 100 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 1: a number closer to what he wants because they're getting 101 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: a lot of heat, as you know. But the Blue 102 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: Day's front office talks frequently about discipline. Now they want 103 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: to stay disciplined. Sometimes actually often, that's a great idea. 104 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: But when you've got a star player like this and 105 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: you've got the one Sodo deal, they're sitting at six 106 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: hundred I'm sorry, seven hundred and sixty five million. The 107 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: market's changed, and it seems like they had a couple 108 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: of opportunities to react to that before even Sodo signed, 109 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: and they did not take advantage of them. 110 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: Ken, real quick, I want to go back to something 111 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: you said. You said, Tristan Costas played GM yesterday, which 112 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: is fine, you can do that, right, But I said 113 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: this last year on here and and I question this, 114 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: are they going to get tired of his antics? If 115 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: he can't play and he doesn't perform, well, this is 116 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: just another one on the list. So could this expedite 117 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: his I mean, he has to come out and bang 118 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: this year, right in order for the Red Sox to 119 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 3: be like, Okay, you can say whatever you. 120 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: Want, I would say when you talk like that, and listen, 121 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: reporters welcome that kind of talk. We love stuff like this, 122 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: right it. But when you say things like that like 123 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: he said yesterday, you've got to back it up. You've 124 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: got to be really an established star. And I think 125 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: that was the issue that certain people had with what 126 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: Casis did. This guy really hasn't accomplished that much, if 127 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: anything at all, in the big leagues just yet. He's 128 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: a talented guy. He's done a little bit he's going 129 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: to be fine. He's probably going to be a pretty 130 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: good player. But if you're going to talk like that, 131 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: it's probably best to have maybe, I don't know, ten 132 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: years in maybe a couple of MVP awards. 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They are an organization 159 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: that's gone from two hundred and thirty three million in 160 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: value and Antinasio bought them to one point six billion. 161 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: And yet the gist of the article, if I'm not mistaken, 162 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: is they're coming back spending this year after having a 163 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: better team. Is it because of the fact that they 164 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: won the division and they're like, ah, we got beat 165 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: by the sixth place team, so we can just slide 166 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: into the sixth place spot. And you know what, it 167 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: was a wash about making the money when we had 168 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: three home games for the wildcard series, right, Well, there's a. 169 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,119 Speaker 1: Lot going on with that story. And they were top 170 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: ten in attendance, or they've been top ten in attendance 171 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: since two thousand and seven. The cocumulative numbers. They weren't 172 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: top ten last year. Eric, But the point is that 173 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: they do this. They operate according to their revenues. They 174 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: are a low revenue team and they don't have a 175 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: big payroll. We all understand that. My question that I 176 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: raised is, hey, this year, you haven't signed a free 177 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: agent for more than one million dollars. You signed three guys. 178 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: One was for a million, two or for less than that, 179 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: and they're weren't even fully guaranteed. And you're doing that 180 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: when you're coming off a division title and you had 181 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: three home games. Now, what the owner Mark Attanasio said 182 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: in the news conference yesterday was the money that you 183 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: get from the wild card round when you get knocked 184 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: out as they did, is not consequential. It was like 185 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: a million to two million. That's consequential to a lot 186 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: of us, But to a baseball team, I guess not much. 187 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: So that was one point. And then I actually did 188 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: ask about, hey, because you got knocked out by a 189 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: hot number six seed, is it a situation where maybe 190 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: you just don't want to really go for it the 191 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: same way when you know you can sneak get into 192 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs as a number six and maybe have even 193 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: better success than you've had. They've had five straight early 194 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: eliminations without advancing, and at Tanasio said, you go for 195 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: the division title. You can't think that way, and I 196 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: believe that is the case. I believe what he's saying 197 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: is true there. His position is we've got so many 198 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: good young players were set well, they don't really have 199 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: an answer at third. He did acknowledge that you can 200 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: always add to your pitching, and they should be adding 201 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: to their pitching. That's the one thing that I don't 202 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: quite follow. They could have been a team for the 203 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: relievers out there, Kenley Jansen, They could still be a 204 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: team for David Robertson or another reliever. And Jose Kintana 205 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: is sitting out there, Andrew Guiney is sitting out there, 206 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Gibson all still free agents. And I understand the 207 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: Brewers are in a different difficult financial situation compared to 208 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: a lot of teams. We all get that. But in 209 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: my view, and what I wrote here is you're making 210 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: it even harder for your front office and at some 211 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: point that could catch up with you. 212 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: Agreed, Agreed, Now you're you're you're at the Rancher in Glendale, 213 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: Campbell back ranch there with Dave Roberts his contracts up, 214 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: Aaron Boone his contract's coming up. Here. Are they going 215 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 3: to get the big bucks like a Craig Council. They 216 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: deserve it. Listen, they're in huge markets. They've handled their 217 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: teams unbelievably, so are they going to get the contracts 218 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: they deserve? Our owners still gonna say, oh, we can down, 219 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: you know, not pay these managers enough because the front 220 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: office really does all the work. Anyways, because that's the 221 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: way it looks from the outside with manager salaries, how 222 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: they've held them down. Well, Creig Council kind of broke 223 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: the mold. So these two are next in line. 224 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: A Jay's an interesting point you raised there, and if 225 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: you think about it, we were talking about Guerrero just 226 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: a minute ago, and has Soto change the market for him? 227 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: CREG Council changed the market for managers. Dave Roberts is 228 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: much more successful than CREG Counsel. He's won two World Series. 229 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: He has the all time highest winning percentage for managers 230 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: with two hundred and fifty games of experience or more. 231 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on there that is really positive. 232 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: Boon not as much, but his winning percentage is second 233 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: among actives pretty good. So I would expect that the 234 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: Roberts contract will come in above council. But it's not 235 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: necessarily going to be an easy negotiation because you're right, 236 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: teams don't value managers, and teams always point to contracts 237 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: like counsels or like Soto's as an outlier. Well, just 238 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: because that team did that doesn't mean we have to. Well, 239 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of not the way it works. And if 240 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: Dave Roberts gets to the end of this contract without 241 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: an extension, obviously there are teams that would want him. 242 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: That said, all that said, I do expect both these 243 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: guys to be signed to extensions by opening deck. 244 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: All right, we'll see what happens. We'll talk about it 245 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 2: in a sec Ken, thank you very much. Enjoy the 246 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 2: non dark side swim. 247 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: Pool great and the ladies feeding it with fans and great. Yeah, 248 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: when you go to the other side, you ain't getting that. 249 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 4: Have fun. We'll talk to you, I understand. Thanks guys. 250 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: All right, that's FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal back on 251 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: Fair Territory tomorrow live session twelve thirty East Coast time 252 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: is when that show begins. Let's stay here actually for 253 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: a moment. Let's shock the system. We didn't get to 254 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: talk about this the other day, and I wanted to 255 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: bring it up to Brian Cashman said there would be 256 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: a flood of activity if Boone was let loose in 257 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: a free agent and I do think you know, Boone 258 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 2: gets a hard time sometimes from Yankee fans krats who 259 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 2: are just used to the dynasty that the Yankees used 260 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: to be and don't realize that Boone is just handling 261 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: the roster that he was given, which often isn't perfect. 262 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: It's definitely not Derek jeter dynasty day is perfect. So 263 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: what's your take on this? For both sides? We've touched 264 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 2: on it, but I just want to give it a 265 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: couple more minutes here, since I do think there is 266 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: going to be this battle, which includes the league office 267 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: trying to get manager salaries down, and the Dodgers are 268 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: in this weird spot. Everyone's already kind of against them. 269 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: They're spending a lot of money. It's a piece of 270 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: cake for them to give Doc whatever he wants, but 271 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: they don't want to keep rising the number up because 272 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 2: what if someone else crushes it the next couple of 273 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: years and then he's like, I want more than ten 274 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: million dollars a year. 275 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: Teams that value it are going to pay for it. 276 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: Teams that take a first year guy. You know, as 277 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 3: a first year guy, you're not gonna get that much. 278 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: And teams, I guess, can squash that salary just like 279 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: they can, you know, the minimum salary for players, although 280 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: that's negotiated. To me, Boone Roberts should both exceed what 281 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: Craig Council's done or did. All three are in big marcuts. 282 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: You know, I think there's more pressure on the other 283 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: two than there is on counts in Chicago. But to me, 284 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: you have to you have to pay these guys if 285 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: you think there's a value there. If you don't think 286 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: there's a value there, hey go roll the dice. Boonie 287 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: will get a job somewhere else. David rout dajoill get 288 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: a job somewhere else too. Yeah. I mean, what is 289 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: there to say other than yeah, like pay the guys. 290 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: These guys are great. If Aaron Boone hits a free 291 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: agent market, guess what, every team that fires their manager 292 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: of this offseason is gonna want Aaron Boone. If David 293 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: Roberts hits the free agent market this year as a manager, 294 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: every team that it'll be, yeah, bidding war between Boone 295 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: and Dave Roberts. Boone Dave Roberts. Boone Dave Roberts. I'm sorry, 296 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: these two or two of the best in the game. 297 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: He say whatever you want about the Dodgers roster, but 298 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: they have to still finagle stuff. They have to especially listen, 299 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: you have to get the rosters right. You have to 300 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: get the players to understand what the front office wants. 301 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: You have to get them to understand analytics. You have 302 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: to communicate with these guys, and these two are two 303 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 3: of the best at it. I mean, Aaron Boone stands 304 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: up for his players better than anybody, right, And Dave 305 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: Roberts is one of the best communicators. If you ever 306 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: talk Dave Roberts for five minutes, you understand what a 307 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: great communicator is. So, I mean, both these guys deserve 308 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: a ton of money, and they deserve more credit than 309 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: what they get. 310 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, you know, I've sat in his 311 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: office to multiple times for meetings and you're like, yep, 312 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: this makes sense. 313 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: This is why this has been. 314 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: Operating this way for a while so consistently, and why 315 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: there's not as much drama here as there is in 316 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: many other organizations, and he has talked about getting the 317 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: value that he deserves. You should test that out, not 318 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: go to the free agent market, but don't settle because 319 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: the Dodgers have pressure in this situation too. They cannot 320 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: let him walk. They're gonna pay for all these players. 321 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: They're gonna do the excess of grabbing a reliever to 322 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: cut another reliever who should be on a big league roster, 323 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: right like the Yates for the Brazier. That's kind of 324 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: the money difference in what it would cost to pay 325 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: Dave Roberts per season, So it's no big. 326 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: Deal for them. 327 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: I think there's a bigger hand in play here where 328 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: the league wants to keep the salaries down. 329 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 4: I would not overlook that part. So we'll see what happens. 330 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: But Doc should say I get the highest paid and 331 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: I get the most years, and nobody should flinch. 332 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. 333 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: H Todd father, remember the good old days when we 334 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: would have the cards and the binders, But then they'd 335 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: get all messed up and we're trying to sell online 336 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: and it's just real clunky. 337 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: They really actually weren't the good old days? Were they? 338 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: No? 339 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 6: They were definitely not. But now there's a better way. 340 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 6: The Arena Club has been dominant with this. 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First of all, 358 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: start nice and easy, most improved team, he said, is 359 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: the first time that the most improved team was the 360 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 2: team that won the World Series. And this he went 361 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: n L a AL, so let's go NL first. Talking 362 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: about the Dodgers, he's puts in quotes from the execs. 363 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: He's like one exec was like, what are they gonna 364 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: do with everyone? Like what if everyone is actually healthy? 365 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: It's going to be awkward. 366 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 4: So the Dodgers won, and then what are they gonna do? 367 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: Load management? 368 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 4: That's right, they are. They already do that, so they'll 369 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 4: do even more of that. 370 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: Dodgers, Mets, Cubs, Diamondbacks, and then Reds were the top 371 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: five that received votes for most Improved National League Teams. 372 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: Let's show AL as well, and then we can chat 373 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: most improved AL. One execs said it's honestly tough to 374 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: come up with three and pointed out how there's a 375 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: massive difference between the AL in the NL right now, 376 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: which was the case last year. But the Red Sox 377 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: won this pre Bragman signing, so probably would have received 378 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: even more boats. Yankee Second Rangers, A's, Tigers, Blue Jays. 379 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I know. 380 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: It seems fifty to fifty on this, but I don't 381 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: think that the Yankees are improved. If you want to 382 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: make a case that they're in a similar spot, that's okay. 383 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: I have a hard time seeing them improved based on 384 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: their off season. 385 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: That's me. You got a more athletic person to get 386 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: Judge out of center field. They got a the best 387 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: closer in baseball. I mean, I guess cost was better 388 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: last year, but they got the best closer available by far, 389 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 3: and they up. They haven't lost. Yeah, obviously they're you know, 390 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 3: you can't make up for so Soto's offense with this, 391 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 3: But Max Freed is a bona fide number one. He's 392 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 3: not their ace, but he's a bona fide number one 393 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 3: to add to the rotation. Yeah, I agree. I mean, 394 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: I think what they did. I think Goldschmild will improve 395 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 3: their defense. I think I think another year wherever Jazz 396 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,239 Speaker 3: if he's at third base, another year of Jazz at 397 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: third base. I think Devin Williams is going to solidify 398 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 3: their bullpen. They could put Weaver in a setup role. 399 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: I love what they've done. I think I just think that. Yeah, 400 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 3: I think they're improved, but I still don't think they 401 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 3: improved much of the Red Sox even before the because 402 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: you had Crochet, you had Bueller, he had some of 403 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: the other things that the Red Sox have done. Now 404 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: you throw Bragman on top. I agree with this. My 405 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 3: bigger question is I thought the A's would be third 406 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: in this because of some of the signings that they 407 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 3: made over the Rangers. But we'll see how it plays 408 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 3: out and nationally. Nationally, yeah, the Dodgers improved and the 409 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 3: Mets improved. I mean, but seeing that the Dodgers improved 410 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: the most, that they won the World Series just shows 411 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: you how much better they are than everybody else. 412 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 4: As an org exactly right. 413 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: They won last year at a time when they should 414 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: not have necessarily won. 415 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 4: We've talked about it many times. 416 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: I mean, they almost got bounced by the Padres, but 417 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: the Padres choked in that situation. Free agent signings, so 418 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: here's the fun part. Best and worst have a lot 419 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: of crisscross. Best Roki Sasaki, that's obvious and you cost nothing. 420 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: Corbin Burns, then Pete Alonzo than Juan Soto. Worst free 421 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: agent signings. Here's the top five according to this poll. 422 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: Sodo Freed, Severino Schuerzer, boyd aj. 423 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: Thoughts, Well, I mean, listen, the best, I mean depends 424 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: on how well Won Soto ages for me for the 425 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 3: best or worst. I mean, obviously Sazaki is the best. 426 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 3: Corbin Burns great for the Diamondbacks because he didn't cost 427 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 3: him an arm in a leg, Pete Alonzo had to 428 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: go back to the Mets. But to me, the worst 429 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: is more interesting. Max Sure's are for an on a 430 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: one year deal to the Blue Jays. How is that 431 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 3: a bad deal? If he comes out and he's healthy 432 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: and he pitches, even if he's not the Max Scherzer 433 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: of all the cy Young's in the first ballot Hall 434 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: of Fame guy. If he just gives them twenty five 435 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: starts and is very effective, or he gives them fifteen 436 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: starts in the first half and they can trade him 437 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 3: and get something if they're out of it. I don't 438 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: know how this can be even close to the worst. 439 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 3: I mean, Severarino, the A's made his move. We should 440 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: be applauding the A's, not saying it's bad. I don't know. 441 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: The one to me that's the most interesting will always 442 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 3: be won Soto because we got to see how this goes. 443 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the consensus was great short term, awful long term. 444 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 2: That makes sense, So It just depends what kind of. 445 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 4: Person you are. You know, you don't know what's gonna 446 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 4: happen here ten years from now? Who cares? 447 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 3: Who cares? 448 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: That's my thing. 449 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 3: I don't care. No way you have you have a 450 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: cornerstone to build around, and when you already had a 451 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: cornerstone in Lindoor, like those dud dudes are going to 452 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 3: play for a long time, even six years from now, 453 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: like your front office could look different, Your prospects are 454 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: going to totally look different. You haven't even drafted dudes 455 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: that are going to be in the big leagues in 456 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 3: six years yet. And Wan's still going to be in 457 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: his prime. So who cares? 458 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: I'm with you, all right? Two more that I want 459 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: to bring up here for verbal mentions that are more funny. 460 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: This was not an official poll, but he got one 461 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: vote for someone who wanted to bring up most confusing trade. 462 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: An executive was like, why did the Blue Jays trade 463 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: for Miles Straw most of the two years close to 464 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: fifteen million dollars left. I know there's some money that 465 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: came back to gather money for a player that they 466 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: didn't end up getting. They were like, they should have 467 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: done that. Once the player said, I'm coming over. Obviously 468 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: we don't know everything behind the scenes, but I'm not 469 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: going to give benefit of the doubt to the Blue 470 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: Jays right now. They are valuing players differently. Watch yesterday's 471 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: show for more info on that fun little quote shot 472 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: at Laddie Junior for no reason. And then lastly, least 473 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 2: recognizable team was epic, really really good battle. But aj, 474 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: you might be a fan of the worst team in 475 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: baseball last year and the worst team in the AL 476 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: this year, but the Marlins, actually one is the least 477 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: recognizable team. The White Sox finished in second, Rockies third 478 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: race finished in fourth. The little note that Stark provided 479 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: was no one who got more than two played appearances 480 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: or pitched more than one in the third innings in 481 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: that wildcard series for the Marlins two years ago remains 482 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: on the roster. 483 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 3: Well, here's my thing. I agree. I can't name. We 484 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: tried to do this the other day. Name five Marlins 485 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 3: not named Sandy al Contra and Perez, maybe five other 486 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: Marlins we played this game, didn't We rarely could do it? 487 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: I mean the White Yeah, it took all three of us. 488 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 3: So it took all three of us and producer lady 489 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: in our ear to give us some code. So yeah, 490 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: but I mean the White Sox to me are a 491 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: little bit more recognizable because they have been attende. Andrew 492 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: Vaughn's been around, Luis Robert obviously, they have some names 493 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: that have been a little bit around the mar They 494 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: don't really have anybody like you said in the Rockies. 495 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: Nobody pays attention to him. So how the hell I mean, 496 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: if you I mean Chris Bryant, who is verily on 497 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 3: the field, and then Ezekiel Tovar after that, it's like, 498 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you have to really dig in and we 499 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: watch the old No, but I'm saying we watch baseball 500 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: every day. I'm talking about the casual fan that turns 501 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: on a game. They don't know who these guys are. 502 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 3: They don't know who these and that's that's just the 503 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 3: way the organizations are set up. It's not a knock 504 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 3: on the players, just the way the organizations set up. 505 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: I know he's been out for a year, but Sandy 506 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: al Contra is a name you want to say young, 507 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: but it's been a minute since we've seen him on 508 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: the field because coming back from. 509 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 3: Surgery, I said, him and Harry Bruce but don't not 510 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 3: name me four other ones. If we if we hear 511 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 3: about Sandy a contra when he gets off to a 512 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: strong start, if we hear about him getting traded, there 513 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 3: has to be some type of grievance of some kind. 514 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they have to keep him. I'm 515 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: saying he's the only one. If you look at his contract, 516 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: it's super team friendly for who he is and what 517 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: he can be. But if they talk about trading him, 518 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna be irate because this team has to 519 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 3: has to be made to do something, has to be 520 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 3: made to do something because people are gonna turn these 521 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: teams on. They're gonna see that the Marlins are on 522 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: and they'll be like, I don't want to watch this game, 523 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 3: and it's bad for the sport. 524 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: It is, but they're doing the scrap it down and 525 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: build it back up Orioles Astro style. Cubs did it 526 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: back in the day. I don't agree with it, but 527 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: that is what they're doing, and I think Sandy will 528 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: get Delta. 529 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: They've scrapped it down way loose. They've scrapped it down 530 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 3: way more than any other team ever has. 531 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no, dude, I disagree with that. I hate 532 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 2: the process. But Houston, Baltimore, those teams. 533 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 3: Houston did Houston. I played against Houston at twenty thirteen. 534 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 3: They're awful year. I mean they had Rick Ankiel still 535 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: was on the team. Bud Norris is still there. I 536 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 3: mean Al Tuvay was there. I mean they still had 537 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: some people you had heard of, the Marlins. 538 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I'm right right with Adam. 539 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 3: There were still some veterans that you had heard of 540 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: on the Astros that you're right, trust me. I played. 541 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 3: Jason Castro was there. He was there, was there were 542 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: some people that were there that other but the Marlins 543 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: are just this is a completely different animal than what 544 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: the Astros did. I'm sorry. 545 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 4: Orioles had nobody. 546 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 3: Adam, Jones, Davis and all those guys still around. 547 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 2: No, but then Jones was gone, right, He eventually went 548 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: to the d Backs and then went overseas. I think 549 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: only Davis, but he wasn't really playing towards the end 550 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: of that deal. Right, We can do a dive on 551 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: that at some point. Best Tank of the twenty first 552 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 2: Century might be a fun segment if you're into it, 553 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 2: let us know