1 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to woka F Daily with 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: me your Girl, Danielle Moody recording from the home bunker, Folks, 3 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: I am very excited for this episode to welcome our 4 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: friend Glenn Kirshner, host of Justice Matters and MSNBC legal analysts, 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: back to woke F to give us. Let me tell 6 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: you something. This is a thorough, thorough review of where 7 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's cases, all of his legal woes and drama stand. 8 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: As we prepare, I don't know. I'm not holding my breath, folks, 9 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: because I don't want to pass out for whether or 10 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: not Donald Trump is going to be indicted. Is it 11 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: going to come from Georgia or the Georgia white Republican 12 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: politicians going to fire Fannie Willis from her job because 13 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, they don't want their good old buddy indicted. 14 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Is it going to come from New York because the 15 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Manhattan DA has called him in for an optional interview 16 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: before they drop an indictment. Is it going to come 17 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: from the federal government? Probably not, because Merritt Garland is 18 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: pretty much a jellyfish. So coming up next, my in 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: depth conversation with thirty year former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirshner. Folks, 20 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: I am very excited for the first week launch relaunch 21 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: of woke F to welcome back our friend, former federal prosecutor, 22 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: MSNBC legal analysts and the host of Justice Matters, Glenn Kirshner, 23 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: onto woke F to bring us the latest rundown on 24 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: all of the legal news that is plaguing Donald Trump, 25 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: that is currently plaguing Fox News, and where we stand 26 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: in our hunt for indictments. Glenn, It's been a while, 27 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: so it's wonderful to have you back. Let's start with 28 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: New York, where I am right now. Just recently, we 29 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: have an announcement that comes down from the Manhattan District Attorney. 30 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: Now you know all too well that I've gone hard 31 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: on Alvin Bragg since he came into the position as 32 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: District Attorney, because I thought that Sivance had things set 33 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: up and ready to go. Alvin Bragg comes in, pumps 34 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: the brakes too. High level prosecutors quit because they say 35 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: that they wanted to move forward with an indictment. Alvin 36 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: Bragg said, Nope, we're not ready. Now we've seen over 37 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: the last couple of months and about face of sorts. 38 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: Talk to us about the latest news that everyone saw, 39 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: which is that the Manhattan District Attorney now is inviting 40 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: I use that in quotation marks Donald Trump in for 41 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: a quote unquote interview. What does this mean? Yeah, the 42 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: backstory of how Alvin Bragg got to this place is 43 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: really curious and contorted, and you know, we could engage 44 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: in some informed speculation about what the heck has gone 45 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: on thus far. But you know, yesterday the New York 46 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: Times broke a story that gives us a concrete indication 47 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: of where the grand jury investigation into Donald Trump's hush 48 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: money payments of Stormy Stormy Daniels is right now, and 49 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: it looks like it is very close to being indicted. Danielle, 50 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: We've both been fooled before, we've both been let down before. 51 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: But let's talk about what this reporting means. So the 52 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: New York Times said that Alvin Bragg's prosecutors reached out 53 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump's legal team and invited him to appear 54 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: before the grand jury this week. What does that mean? Okay, 55 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: First of all, Donald Trump is the target of this 56 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: criminal investigation. He's the person that the prosecutors are intending 57 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: to indict. So That means they won't subpoena him, because 58 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: you don't subpoena the target of an investigation because the 59 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: subpoena is a court order. It is a compulsion order 60 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: saying you must appear and you must testify. Well, the 61 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: target of the investigation has a Fifth Amendment right against 62 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: self incrimination, so he or she does not have to testify. 63 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: They just plead the Fifth which is why prosecutors don't 64 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: generally subpoena the target of an investigation. But here's what 65 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: we do. We will invite them to come down and 66 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: appear before the grand jury, not require them, not compel them, 67 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: but what we say to them, and we deliver a 68 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: specific letter to them. I'll talk about that letter in 69 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: a minute. We say, we are inviting you to appear 70 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: before the grand jury and provide your side of the story, 71 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: because maybe the prosecutors got it wrong, maybe you didn't 72 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: commit any of these crimes. Maybe we're looking at all 73 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: of this evidence incorrectly. So we're inviting you to come in, 74 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: set the record straight, tell your side of the story. Now, 75 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: ninety eight times out of a hundred, defendants decline the invitation. 76 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: They're not going to come and lay themselves bare under 77 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: oath in the grand jury, when the only person in 78 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: there is the prosecutor grilling them, asking them questions. Right, 79 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: every once in a while a defendant will do it 80 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: because he or she thinks they can talk their way 81 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: out of it in the grand jury. Rarely does that 82 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: work to a defendants or a target's advantage. So this 83 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: letter we deliver, I tell this story because I think 84 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: it's cute. We call this invitation letter a Maywest letter. 85 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: We've been calling it that for decades. Why do we 86 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: call it a may West letter? Well, people of a 87 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: certain age, me maybe not. You remember the movie star 88 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: Maywest from the thirties and the forties was the queen 89 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: of the one liners at one point in time in Hollywood. 90 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: Great actress, funny, and she has a number of famous lines. 91 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: One of her most famous lines is she's standing in 92 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: a bar with a gentleman who's in uniform. She says, yeah, 93 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: I always did like a man in uniform. Why don't 94 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: you come up and see me sometime. That's the famous line. Yeah, 95 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: that's a that's the famous Maywest line. So what have 96 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: prosecutors called this letter that we deliver inviting a defendant 97 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: to see the grand jury a Maywest letter, Why don't 98 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: you come up and see the grand jury sometime now. 99 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Nobody's asking prosecutors to play comedy clubs anytime soon, but 100 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: somebody thought that was cute back in the day, so 101 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 1: they name it a Maywest letter. So we only deliver 102 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: that kind of a letter at the absolute tail end 103 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: of the grand jury investigation, because we wanted to develop 104 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: all of the evidence through the testimony. We wanted to 105 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: subpoena all the documents and business records to the grand jury. 106 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: We wanted to have it all in hand when we 107 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: question the target. If the target chooses to testify, as 108 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: I say, they generally don't, So this gives us the 109 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: informed opinion that they are right at the end of 110 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: the grand jury investigation, because inviting the target to testify 111 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: as the last thing we do, and frankly, Danielle, we 112 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: only do it if we know there's enough evidence to indict, 113 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: and this is the last base we touch. So concretely, 114 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: this is a pretty good indication that we could see 115 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: an indictment of Donald Trump soon, at least on the 116 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: hush money payments. Okay, So that's that's what I was 117 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: going to follow up with, which is this is with 118 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: regard to what Michael Cohen essentially became famous for what 119 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: he also went to jail for, right, which is using 120 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: the use of campaign finance money in order to payoff 121 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels a high class escort in order to keep 122 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: her quiet. Correct. Correct. So we know that all of 123 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: this became very much reality TV when Stormy Daniels hired 124 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: her attorney, Michael Cohen then decides to flip on Donald Trump. 125 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: Tell us what would a trial look like? Because this 126 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: is these are criminal charges. This is separate and apart 127 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: from what Tish James has been doing as New York 128 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: ag This is separate and apart. Her case is a 129 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: civil one against the or against Trump Organization for reclamation 130 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: of you know, upwards to a quarter of a billion dollars, right, 131 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: So just remind us what the criminal possibility is here? 132 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: What excuse me, what the criminal charge would be from 133 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: the Manhattan DA. It's a great question and one that's 134 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: really hard to answer because we don't know what kind 135 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: of evidence was developed as a result of the prosecution 136 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: of the Trump Organization. The very successful prosecution convicted on 137 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: all counts for running a fifteen year long criminal scheme 138 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: to defraud in the first degree, basically a massive tax 139 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: fraud scheme being run by the Trump organization. And we're 140 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: still scratching our heads as to why Donald Trump wasn't 141 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: charged in that case. But what I'm confident of is 142 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: that case probably produced a whole bunch of evidence that 143 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: might be why we see Alvin Bragg having jump started 144 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: this other criminal case against Donald Trump. That coupled with 145 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: the fact that, remember, Congress finally got its hands on 146 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: Donald trump tax returns, and some of the reporting is 147 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: that these hush money payments we're taken as business expenses 148 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: on his federal taxes and estate taxes. That adds additional 149 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: crimes to the hush money payments. So when you ask 150 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: what are the charges, really hard to say. The one 151 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: obvious charge that's been kicked around a lot in the 152 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: media is falsifying business records because Michael Cohen ginned up 153 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump a bunch of false documents making this 154 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: look like it was part of Michael Cohen's legal services, 155 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: when in fact, it was a hush money payoff to 156 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: hide deeply damaging information from the American voters. And here's 157 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: the thing. Falsifying business records in New York is a 158 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: misdemeanor unless it is done in furtherance of, or to 159 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: conceal other crimes. So I don't know what an indictment 160 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: is going to include, but I have a feeling it's 161 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: going to include several charges as a result of additional 162 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: evidence that has come to light since Alvin Bragg first 163 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: looked like he was killing the Trump investigation. So really 164 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: hard to predict exactly what the indictment will include, but 165 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: I suspect it will include more than just one or 166 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: two minor charges. I think he's probably going to build 167 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: on those hush money payment charges. So there could be 168 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: a possibility of multiple indictments coming down because each of 169 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: whatever the suspected criminal acts are would require their own indictment. 170 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: This is not it wouldn't just be one blanket A 171 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: great legal question, So there is a doctrine called joinder 172 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: and severance. Joinder means prosecutors will try to bring all 173 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: related charges in one indictment and try them all together, 174 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: But there are lots of legal niceties that dictate when 175 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: you can join charges together, and if the defense doesn't 176 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: want them join together, they'll file emotion to sever joinder 177 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: and severance. They'll try to break them all apart into 178 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: separate trials. So one of the things that we will 179 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: learn when we hopefully see the first indictment drop soon 180 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: is how many related charges has Alvin Bragg been able 181 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: to join together in one indictment, and how many might 182 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: have to come in a separate indictment because they're not 183 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: sufficiently related to the hush money payments. These are all 184 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: sort of fine tuned legal decisions and tactical decisions that 185 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure Bragg's prosecution team is making as we speak 186 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: switching gears. The big breaking news at least on Earth One, 187 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: as I like to call it, with regard to the 188 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: Dominion case and against Fox News, is all of the 189 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: depositions that have now been made public where Fox King 190 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: CEO Rupert Murdoch essentially through all of his famous faces 191 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: and voices underneath the bus. We have now seen Glenn 192 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: a treasure trove of text messages exchanging this. This is 193 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: folks a defamation lawsuit that Dominion has filed in around 194 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: I think it's one point six billion dollars against Fox 195 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: News for their false um coverage. With regard to the 196 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: fact that Dominion had something to do with stealing the 197 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: election from Donald Trump in the treasure trove of text messages. 198 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: In Rupert Murdoch's own testimony, I guess his own his 199 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: own deposition under oath, he says, oh, no, we knew 200 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: that the election wasn't stolen, and oh I should have 201 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: done something sooner, maybe before January sixth, who knows, Um, Glenn, 202 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on what the public 203 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: outside of the Fox, you know, sphere, because they're not 204 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: covering this at all, what the public has learned, And 205 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: in your opinion, does Dominion have a really strong case here? 206 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: Dominion has an incredibly strong case. Defamation cases are often 207 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: difficult to prove because you have to prove actual malice. 208 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: You have to prove that either these anchors and executives 209 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: were recklessly disregarding the truth of what they were putting 210 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: on air, or even beyond that, that they were intentionally 211 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: sponsoring lies. And here's the thing, Danielle, as you say, 212 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: these text messages and emails, and then there was a 213 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: zoom meeting that was reported out by Peter Baker of 214 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: the New York Times, who got an got his hands 215 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: on a zoom recording of the Fox executives and Fox 216 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: anchors in the days after the election talking about how 217 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: they had messed up by correctly calling the election for 218 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, right, And what I said is, you know, 219 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: that would be like a bunch of surgeons getting together 220 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: for an emergency meeting after an operation and saying, how 221 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: did we mess up by saving the patient? I mean, 222 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: that's kind of what Fox News was saying. We mess 223 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: up by calling the election correctly, but it hurt our 224 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: revenue stream, so we have to start lying about things. 225 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: This defamation suit is so strong that I think the 226 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: evidence has blown right past recklessness and dominion will be 227 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: able to fairly easily prove actual intentional lying, because, as 228 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch said, it ain't about the blue, and it 229 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: ain't about the red, It's about the green. So I 230 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: think the only thing left to decide is what our 231 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: dominions damages in the words, how much money should Fox 232 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: be made to pay. I cannot imagine Fox will go 233 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: to trial. I have a feeling they will settle, And 234 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: the question is do they get one point six billion, 235 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: do they get more impunitive damages? Do they get less? 236 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: Because they can't prove the valuation of the damage that 237 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: Fox did to Dominion voting systems. But I think liability 238 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: is a lock and it's going to be all about 239 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: the amount of the judgment that Fox has to pay 240 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: to Dominion. So here I have a couple of questions, 241 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: right because I'm not a lawyer, I just play one 242 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: on the podcast because I started to really think about this, Glenn, 243 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: and I said to myself, if Dominion is able to 244 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: prove malicious intent, which is essentially what the Zoom called 245 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: the text messages, they knew who Sidney Powell was when 246 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: they were putting her on the air. They themselves called 247 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: her a crackpot, a Looney Tunes, and they put her 248 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: on the air to spout her conspiracy theories. One my 249 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: first question is what is the Department of Justice do 250 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: with this information? Knowing that had Fox News not been 251 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: the megaphone of Donald Trump and the Big Lie, would 252 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: the insurrection have gotten the legs that it had, Because 253 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: what you would have had and I'm not taking Donald 254 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: Trump's tweet and all of his lies on social media 255 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: off the table, I'm adding on Fox megaphone of hour 256 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: after hour for the election from then until January sixth, 257 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: ginning up the very people who would arrive at the 258 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: Capitol to then try and overthrow a free and fair election. 259 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: So what, if anything, that's my first question. Does the 260 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: Department of Justice do if this case is cited in 261 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: dominion's favor. Well, this is probably going to come as 262 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: no shock to you, but my opinion is the oj 263 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: will do exactly nothing. Now, I'm not saying that there 264 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: is criminal liability that could be easily proved based on 265 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: Fox's lies that obviously inspired violence. But I'm also not 266 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: saying that we should just throw up our hands and 267 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: say nothing we can do about it. Freedom of the press, 268 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: freedom of speech. We can't prove a connection, a direct 269 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: connection between Fox's lies and the violence on January sixth. 270 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: But here's here's what really ticks me off. I believe 271 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: that there are things the executive branch could do. I 272 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: believe there are regulations the FCC could enact. I believe 273 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: there are executive orders Joe Biden could sign in the 274 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: name of protecting our democracy and protecting the American people 275 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: that could begin to chip away at what we have 276 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: abdicated for years, which is that you know what Fox 277 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: and other phone news agencies can lie as much as 278 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: they want, sponsor as much hate speech as they want, 279 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: even when that hate speech is reasonably likely to incite 280 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: imminent violence. There's just nothing we can do about it. 281 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: You know what. That is not a satisfactory answer, because 282 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: that's the answer that's gotten us here. Let me just 283 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: add this, Danielle. Do you think the Republicans and we 284 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: have broad, sweeping First Amendment speech protection and First Amendment 285 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: freedom of the press protection. I love it, I embrace it, 286 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: I welcome it, but it can't be unlimited. Yeah. There's 287 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: a test called the Brandenburg test. It tests when speech 288 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: enjoys First Amendment protection, even hate speech, or it loses 289 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: First Amendment protection. And it says, basically, if speech is 290 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: likely to end intended to inspire ima in lawless conduct, 291 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't enjoy First Amendment protection. And people will say, 292 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: but you can't prove it was intended to Maybe you 293 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: can prove it was likely too, because that's an objective standard. 294 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: And so what we do, Danielle, is year after year 295 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: we see hate speech that's inciting violence and we say, oh, 296 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: Brandenburg tests fifty years ago, too high a bar. We 297 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: can never overcome it. So we do nothing. Do you 298 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: think the Republicans sit around and say, we want to 299 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: revoke women's constitutional privacy. But Row versus Wade, fifty year 300 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: old president, nothing we can do bullshit. Yet they do 301 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: is they pass forward leaning legislation in the States, They 302 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: signed bs executive orders, they promulgate regulations, and they try 303 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: to take away our rights. Donald Trump had to go 304 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: through four Muslim bands with executive orders before he could 305 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: push it through the courts. Why why are we not 306 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: doing the same thing. Why is Joe Biden not doing 307 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: the same thing for good? Signing forward leaning executive orders? 308 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: Trying to protect the American people. Go into court and 309 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: defend them, and if you lose, you go back. You'll 310 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: learn the lesson of the loss based on what the 311 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: court said. You rewrite it, you rechool it, and you 312 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: do it again. Donald Trump did that for evil. We 313 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: can do it for good. But we refuse to because 314 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: we are the ones who throw up our hands and say, 315 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: fifty year old precedent, nothing we can do. Well, you 316 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: know what precedent changes with the times. If it didn't, 317 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: we would still be living with plus e versus Ferguson. 318 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: Come on, folks, get off your asses and do it. 319 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: Be forward leaning, be aggressive, go into the courts. Don't 320 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: be afraid of the legal challenges, Embrace them. And that's 321 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: what we need to do on the gun on the 322 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: proliferation of guns front, That's what we need to do 323 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: on the hate speech inspiring violence front. We need to 324 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: be forward leaning. The way the Republicans are for evil, 325 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: we can be forward leaning for good. I'm not advocating violating, 326 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: and I think that everything that you're saying is one 327 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: hundred percent right, and all the things that we've been 328 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: screaming from the rooftop since Donald Trump came down that escalator, 329 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: since he started with this executive order, since he started 330 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: with policies that were reprehensible and enough to have Amnesty 331 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: International look at Americans say you know what, I think 332 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: that you're doing something a little wrong here, right enough 333 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: for us to be referred to as a backsliding democracy. 334 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: It's like you have to. If they are leaning in 335 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: on hate and you are not doubling down on good, 336 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: then I don't know what we're doing right. I honestly don't. 337 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: Because my feeling, Glenn, is that when I'm seeing this 338 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: dominion case unfold, and I'm saying to myself if I'm 339 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice and I'm the Department the Department 340 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: of Civil Rights, and I'm saying, you know what, if 341 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: this is ruled in dominion's favor, then we have probable 342 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: cause to begin an investigation into Fox News and how 343 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: they helped insight oh A Riot, how they helped be 344 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: the arm because as as all of these papers lay out, 345 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: it shows that Fox Fox was not there as analysts, 346 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: they were not there as journalists reporting what was happening. 347 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: They were an extension of the campaign. They were an 348 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: extension of the administration. Tucker Carlson is still doing it, yes, 349 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: with his piecemealing of the coverage the videotapes that Kevin 350 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: McCarthy gave him. And I said, why did Kevin McCarthy 351 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: Glenn still have forty thousand hours of that video footage 352 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: in his possession? Why was that not in the possession 353 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: of the Department of Justice. Well, it was in the 354 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: possession of the Capitol Police, and I guess Congress had 355 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: possession of it courtesy of the J six investigation. So 356 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: I think once Congress has it, they have it. And 357 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: when the leadership changed hands, I used the term leadership 358 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: loosely when it comes to Kevin McCarthy. Come on, you 359 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: know he decided to use it for evil period. The 360 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: other thing that has been gnawing at me. And again 361 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: I'm not an attorney, but if Fox is caught red 362 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: handed lying about the election and has to pay out 363 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: billions of dollars to Dominion in the end, it all, 364 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: if it all goes the way that justice should tell 365 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: me whether or not, you think that it is a 366 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: possibility that Fox would then be held liable in some 367 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: type of way for COVID deaths and spreading the lies 368 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: about COVID being a hoax, about COVID being a democratic trick, 369 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: and that because of their consistent lies, a quarter of 370 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: the population remained unvaccinated and they contributed it to the 371 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: deaths of a million. Yeah, I think civil liability if 372 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: they can mine Fox for discovery and get the kind 373 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: of evidence of intentional lies about COVID the way they 374 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: found about the election, I do think civil liability is 375 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: something that people could pursue. The challenges the element of causation, Right, 376 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: did Foxes lies cause or directly contribute to a particular 377 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: person's death. That's a tough element to prove. Now it's 378 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: going to be easier, somewhat easier in the civil context 379 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: because the standards is just a preponderance of the evidence 380 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: fifty one percent more likely than not. I have actually 381 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: argued that Donald Trump and company have criminal liability for 382 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: COVID deaths because they had a duty to protect the public. 383 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: And the law of involuntary manslaw says, if you engage 384 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: in a grossly negligent act or you have a duty 385 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: to act and protect the public and you fail to 386 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: do that, and that failure is grossly negligent. We know 387 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's failure was intentional because he lied to the 388 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: American people about it. And if you're grossly negligent conduct 389 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: was reasonably likely to result in death or serious bodily 390 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: injury to another, check And the third element is that 391 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: you're grossly negligent conduct thereby caused the death of another. 392 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: That's the sticking point, right causation. How can you Well, 393 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: it's important to know that in the law, causation is 394 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: defined as your conduct being a substantial factor in bringing 395 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: about death, not that you killed them. Not do you 396 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: shot him or strangle them, or bludgeoned them or saved them. 397 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: Your conduct of lying to the American people mocking reporters 398 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: when they protected themselves by wearing masks. Your conduct was 399 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: a substantial factor in bringing about death. Therefore, the causation 400 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: element is satisfied. I know we're doing crim law one 401 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: on one now, but I actually have maintained all along 402 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: that Trump and Mike Pence as the head of the 403 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: Coronavirus Task Force, and Jared Kushner liar that he was 404 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: let's let it run rampant through the United States because 405 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: it's killing more Blue voters than red voters. I think 406 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: they have criminal exposure for involuntary manslaughter. But that's just 407 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: from an old career homicide prosecutor. Okay, Oh, Glenn, how 408 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: I wish that your title was attorney general, um, because 409 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: I just I need somebody with a backbone. They'd all 410 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: I can tell you, blues or draw, they would all 411 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: be indicted. If you're interested. I have a documentary that 412 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: just premiered on Peacock. Yes, please, who killed Robert Juan? 413 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 1: The reason I raised this is because three privileged, connected, 414 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: influential men covered up the murder of this young Asian 415 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: American lawyer named Robert Juan, found dead in their guest room, 416 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: and they said, we don't know what happened. They covered 417 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: it up for years. I investigated them. They thought they 418 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: got away with it. I said, I don't care if 419 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: I can't prove who killed Robert Juan. I'm charging you 420 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: all with a conspiracy to cover it up, obstruction of justice, 421 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: and tampering with evidence, because that's what you do for victims. 422 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: That's how you lean forward and you bring cases that 423 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: you might not win. The reason I mentioned it and 424 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: this is a case that is near and dear to 425 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: my heart. It's a two part documentary that just premiered 426 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: on peacocks Streaming. There is a tip line because these 427 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: three men who covered up the crime of murdering Robert Juan, 428 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: they did it in two thousand and six. They've run 429 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: their mouse and I hope somebody will drop a dime. 430 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: Somebody will call in the tip line, talk to our 431 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: homicide detective who's still at the police department in Washington, DC, 432 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: and say I've got some information so you can help 433 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: us answer the question who killed one Robert. Oh, Glenn, 434 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Thank you for that which folks 435 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: do check it out on Peacock the two part series 436 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: and Glenn, thank you as always for making the time 437 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: to join Woke app, particularly during our relaunch week with 438 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: iHeart We Just We appreciate you, your voice, your analysis, 439 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: and your fierce compassion for justice and fight for justice. 440 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: Appreciate you and I appreciate all those qualities in you, Danielle, 441 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: which is why I love you know, doing this every 442 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: week for as long as we've been doing it. Thank you. 443 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: That is it for me today. Folks on Woke f 444 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: as always Power to the people and to all the people. Power, 445 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.