WEBVTT - Presenting… Drew Seeley 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:17.479 Thank you everybody so much for joining us once again 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:19.560 on this Park Copper episode of Magical Rewind. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.160 And we've got some Disney Royalty with us today. 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.160 And I always know that every week, I'm like, this 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.640 is a very special episode. But this is a very 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:32.400 special episode because I knew this guy without knowing this 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:34.120 guy as much as I should have known this guy. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:34.880 Does that make sense? 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:41.440 You gotta explain that meaning I knew who he was, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.080 but then I heard his voice on a whole bunch 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.879 of stuff that I wasn't really aware that I was hearing. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.959 His voice on. Yes, So can you please help us? 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:52.880 Welcome to the pod. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:53.680 Drew Sealing? 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:56.960 What's up? 0:00:59.200 --> 0:00:59.560 I know? 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:01.680 Are you? 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:03.160 You know? Living life? This is? 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:03.640 It? 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:05.920 Be fun to revisit whatever we're going to revisit. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.600 There's so many Where shall we start, mister geez? 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.160 Just listening to Brandon Baker's podcast, and I don't know 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:17.000 if I can top monkey biting your face off and 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:18.279 sleeping with Jessica Alba. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.839 So we didn't start pretty big. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.200 We did start with the pretty big bang with that 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:27.600 guy that he shocked the hell out of us with those. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:33.240 Stories entertaining Yeah. 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.600 Well, I mean I think we first of all, welcome, 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.840 thank you so much for coming on here. We talked about, 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.600 you know, since we're we're kind of the podcast dedicated 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:43.679 to the Channel, you are the Channel royalty, and so 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:44.479 we need but. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:45.759 It's true we needed to have you on here. 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:47.560 But I think we have to start with how do 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.400 the two of you know each other so well? 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:51.639 So well? 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.480 Gosh, I don't even know if I can remember where 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.560 it started, because so much of the stuff kind of 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.840 happened all around the same couple of years. I know 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:08.639 you were on the soundtrack of the fitness and dance videos. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.960 I did be you you yea, which I didn't. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.560 Know, and I'm sure you did. We're watching a movie 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:17.239 and Will what was the movie that I went, Oh, 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.760 my gosh, I'm listening to the soundtrack. 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.360 I'm hearing a song. I'm going, why do I know 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.560 that song? Wait? Why do I know movements to that song? 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:26.800 And it was your song? 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:28.400 It was Danielle Pannabiker in it. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:34.640 I don't written and weep there we go, thank you. 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.360 Yes, I don't think I've ever seen the movie, and 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:38.840 I don't think I even knew my song was going 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:39.560 to be in the movie. 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.919 So it's uh so I'm watching it and I'm going, 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.440 how do I know this song? And I'm like, okay, 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.520 that's true. And then I go, wait, I know movements 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.280 and then I look it up and of course it 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.519 is the song that was on the b U soundtrack. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.320 So that's how I knew choreography was the part. 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.919 And that was just yes, and it was so cool. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.720 But it's in like one of her her scenes that. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.400 She's doing and she's being a celebrity, you know, and everything, 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.160 and it was just so wild. And then Stuck in 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.120 the Suburbs, of course, as soon as you get on 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.840 the camera, I'm like, oh my gosh, not only is 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:12.440 he doing the voice. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.800 Of this aby at that point, well that's actually Disney Lord. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.120 That is incorrect. I am not doing the voice in 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:18.640 that movie. 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:20.080 Really. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.200 No. No. I actually wrote a song for Stuck in 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.519 the Suburbs and submitted to the producers and they're like, no, 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:30.120 we're gonna go with what did Teraryn kill him? Right? No? 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.200 I believe he saying everything. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.760 And we interviewed him. He did not know you beat 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.240 him out because you were out there with the guitar. 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.640 There's another Disney ghost singer out there that nobody knows it. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:50.320 Was me, okay, I yeah, no, wow, but I was David, 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:51.600 the desk clerk, which was fun. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:55.160 You were David, Yes, yeah, my big two lines that 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.960 was my introduction to Disney really, that one and Campus Confidential, 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.240 which is an ABC Family movie with Christy Carlson Romano 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.960 is the same year and Brandon Baker, so that's how 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:05.480 I know him. 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.480 Wait, wait a second, I'm sorry that Stuck in the 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.280 Suburbs your two lines on Stuck in the Suburbs. 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.559 That was the first time you ever worked for the channel. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.680 I believe. So it was my first Disney movie, I believe. Yeah, 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.080 before I had moved to California, so I was still 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.080 living in Orlando at that point, I believe. 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:22.760 Okay, so how. 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.719 Did yeah, I guess we then should should ask how 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.440 did your journey to it all happen? 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:33.720 Yes, it happened through uh a wonderful producer and gentlemen, 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:37.960 Ray Sham who's no longer with us, who wrote Gets 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.400 Your Head in the Game for the original high School 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.000 musical film when. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:46.719 I was grapower first Disney Cheetah Girls. 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.960 And we wrote a song with Prima j for Cheetah 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.920 Girls as well for Cheata girls too, amazing guy. I 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.600 was signed to his production company as as an artist, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.719 like I moved out to La, you know, big dreams, 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.520 just like trying to you know, make a living. I'm like, 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.360 I'm gonna act, I'm gonna sing, I'm gonna do everything, 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.880 which was mostly I'm gonna work at PF Shang's uh 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.440 and Scoop hot Rice and just keep keep dreaming. But 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.400 Ray took a chance on me and signed me to 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:17.400 a deal and we were working on an EP for me, 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.080 and then he'd one one weekend he was just happened 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.240 to have like a little sidegig and he's like, hey, 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:24.920 you want to help me write this song for this 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:29.600 Disney dcom movie. So he brought me in to co 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.560 write get Your Head in the Game. And neither one 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.640 of us really, you know, thought that it was going 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.320 to turn into anything, you know, more than a typical 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.000 what you know whatever, like wrote it forgot about it 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.159 and then yeah there you go. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.040 Dang, so you you sang it for the demo too. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.280 Then right right time, right place, Like when I was 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.760 listening to Brandon's thing just talking about like how there's 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.400 countless other great singers and actors, and he just happened 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.200 to be in the right the right age, the right place, 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.880 with the right skills. Like so much of this is luck, 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:01.400 you know, And I just lucked into meeting the right 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.960 people at the right time, and I was I was ready, 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:08.200 and when they needed somebody to fill in those missing vocals, 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:09.839 they knew I could do it and I was there 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:10.320 and ready. 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.360 So so yeah, no, wait, that's that's my question. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.039 So you write the song, do you then like sing 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.320 the demo and record it and send it to Disney. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.680 It's it's your voice doing that, So it's you don't 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.200 even know you're It's not even like an audition for you. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.000 You're just wrong. 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.240 I did audition for high school musical too, actually, but 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.160 I was a full I think I'm three or four 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.800 years even older than Monique, so I think I like, 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.000 age wise, I sort of aged myself out of the 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:40.719 whole thing. And also Zach is a great actor. But 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.800 since they you know, Kenny knew me from that and 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.240 I'd submitted get your head in the game, they knew 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:51.640 what my voice sounded like. Uh. I've told this story 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.000 a few times. I've never I've never been given an 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.159 explanation of why they kept my voice on the soundtrack, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:58.839 and I don't think zach was has ever been given 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.000 that explanation of why they didn't, So it just sort 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:06.640 of came out the way that it came out. And yeah, 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.760 reporters started calling me. I was still working at PF. 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.160 Chang's the first time High School Musical aired. I was 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.240 watching it on the bar top monitors like telling people, Hey, 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.080 that's my voice, and they're like, yeah, yeah, get me 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:21.720 my rice. So yeah, it was. It was pretty crazy. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:26.320 It happened very suddenly. As I listened to Corbin's interview 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.160 with you guys as well, and like everything, I echo 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.560 everything he said. It was just like one day, you know, 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:32.880 more so for those guys, But I did get to 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:33.960 experience a little bit of that. 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.360 Well, you had to have started the calls had to 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.360 start coming in, right, I mean, you said Ray Champ, 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.080 but you worked with Robbie Neville kind of quiet. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:42.680 Robby did, right. 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:46.040 Robbie was a big so at that time, Will they 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:51.520 had kind of like a a good, fairly small but 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.160 a good group of producers that were just at that 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.480 point doing the grind, putting, putting songs together. They were 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.240 finding songs for d coms, more so than they were 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.800 writing them. I mean, I feel like our songs for 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.320 the Cheetah Girls were all just previously submitted songs, and 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:11.160 then the second one was when they really started, especially 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:15.320 I think probably with Kenny's you know, influence of making 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.960 the songs actually fit what was exactly. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:19.560 Happening in the movie. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.400 And so Robbie Neville, I know you were on a 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.080 bunch of hit because I would always we would always 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.040 go in with these producers and we'd hear all these 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.560 different you know, demos, and you were on I mean, 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.360 I feel like you were just everywhere at that point. 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.360 I have Steve Vincent to thank for that, Like he 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.520 would just like plug me into like every you know 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.280 thing that was happening, and Ray and Greg cham like, yeah, 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.559 there was like a three or four year period there 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.959 where I think I just thought that that was kind 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:46.880 of normal. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna be on disney 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.760 Mania four, five, six, seven and eight, like right. But 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:51.600 also like I didn't have a show on Disney, so 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.960 I wasn't like some of these other stars that are 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.440 singing songs on those albums, Like I just sort of 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.959 snuck in the side door. I stayed there for a while. 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.680 Do you have any songs that you might have wrote 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.760 that you didn't actually sing, but you wrote for either 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.360 other Disney artists or any other d coms that, like 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.760 people would might maybe be surprised to hear. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.360 I wrote a song for Austin and Ali called who 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.680 You Are that I liked. That song got a lot 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.559 of from from Cheta Girls too, Prima. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.680 Jay, didn't you do dance with me? 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.360 I did not write to dance with me? But yeah, 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.680 but you did? Think that was my very first single 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.200 and music video. And I believe that was like even 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.880 before High School Musical, like that was that was the. 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.720 High School Musical came out right before we started filming it. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.120 This second, Yeah, gotcha. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:48.800 I'm still I'm sorry, I'm trying to wrap my head 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.360 around this. I'm still I'm so confused. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.360 Did you when High School Musical aired? Had you been 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.960 told that your voice was on it? Or okay, so 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:58.839 you knew okay, you knew you And. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.400 I also wasn't like umpetting it from the rooftops, like 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.360 I was never told like you can't talk about this. 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:08.199 But also I was just like, yeah, this is my contribution. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.360 You know though, that's a classy way to do it. 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.560 But then somebody, somebody from the Hollywood Reporter found out 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.959 and called my manager and said, wait a minute, who's 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.000 Drew Seeley. You know, because my name was listed on 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.920 the credits on the album or on the not pre 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:28.320 Spotify iTunes whatever. So yeah, I mean it just kind 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.559 of came out, and then once people knew that, it 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:34.480 sort of snowballed into some other opportunities. And yeah, you know, 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.280 Disney has been good to me over the years. I 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.160 got to I got to do Prince eric On in 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.920 The Little Mermaid on Broadway. Yeah, shortly after that, all 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.520 because of that, and then the the High School Musical, uh, 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.440 South America and North American tours with all the. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.440 Cast, all those tours. That's right, I remember that. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.720 I'm sorry, but please tell me you're not still working 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:57.600 at PF. Chang's at the time you're doing all these 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:58.240 these tours. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:10:59.440 No, I quit that. I quit that. 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.520 If you've got writing credit on got to get your 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:05.280 head in the game. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.200 I mean, that's the gift that keeps on giving. Yeah, 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:09.840 I would, I would think. 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.280 So those rots are still locking in because that is 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.319 definitely my favorite song from that that first movie. So 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.719 it's just down the life of that I love all 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.080 in this together. I know that's a fan favorite, but 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.360 mine was get your ahead in the game for sure. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.760 And it's not just because I love you. It's literally 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:26.720 the best song on the movie. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:28.960 And I finally did get to learn all the choreography 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.880 and like do everything from the film on the tour, 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.720 which was fun because live on stage every night there 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.600 was basketball as like hitting people in the front. 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.280 Row, Like, oh god, no, you don't get it every time, 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:43.280 no way. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.440 So I got to live my life vicariously that way. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:51.040 Yes, when did you get to meet the cast? I mean, 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.360 did you? Did you get a chance to meet with everybody? 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.200 And again I was. I was never told why they 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.560 did it the way that they did it, but I 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.080 think that they were within about read four weeks of 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:05.200 shooting the actual film and they had me and not Zach, 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.760 me and the rest of the movie cast all go 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.080 into the studio for like four days straight and record 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.720 all the songs together. So yeah, I knew that I 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.760 was doing that, okay, but not why. 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.480 But but yeah, was that awkward with the Like did 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:21.520 they ask I hit. 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.040 It off with those? I hit it off with them. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:24.920 They were there's they were so lovely and I. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.400 Still what's going on? 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.120 I feel hard to remember. I'm sure they did. They're 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:32.400 probably like, who is this guy? 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:33.000 Yeah? 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.280 I like, does anyone else notice that I supposed to 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:37.240 be here and he's not? 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.400 I do think. I do think Vanessa resented it a 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.200 little bit when I was on tour, because she was like, 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.080 I want to sink to my boyfriend every night, not 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.880 this guy. I didn't feel a little of that. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:48.840 Okay, I can understand that. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.120 For sure, but yeah, it was. It was so much fun. 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.840 And Lucas and Corbyn and I still talk pretty frequently 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:55.200 in mon. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.000 I bet they're both so awesome. And Monique just had 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.400 a birthday. I mean she she's just such a beautiful person, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.520 so fun. I got to tour with her for a 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:08.040 hot second. We both run the Dancing Star store. Yeah, 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.960 and that's when I met Lucas and I met Lucas's 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.600 sister who used to travel around with Monique quite a bit. 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.720 So everyone was a very tight knit group. It was 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.600 super cool, such a small world. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.760 Yeah, I just did. I did Jersey Boys and Kinky 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:26.160 Boots with Mark Ballas in the last few years. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:31.240 Yeah, yes, absolutely, that is very cool. 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.920 So what I mean. High school musical comes out, it's 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:36.439 a ridiculous smash hit. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:38.600 And then you go on the tour. 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.120 What is your response like when you know you're on 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:43.679 stage every night singing for people. 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.800 Well, I really uh, they kind of did me dirty 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.440 there because I had to open the show. So there 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.280 it was a I don't know if either of you 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.480 saw it, but there was a backlit stage right so 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.240 you'd see a shadow walking up, living in my own world, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.360 walking up the shadow shadow guy, and then the lights 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:05.920 hit me and the audience is always like ah, silence, 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.199 And I had to sing half of that song alone 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.480 until Vanessa came on. So I sort of had to 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.880 like reprove myself and resell myself every night. And there 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.839 was like that initial lyell and then like the pullback 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.920 and then people were like, okay, well we're here. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:21.240 You know. 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:26.680 It was tough, man. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.680 They could have helped you out with like and here 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.160 comes truthy. They could have said it up. They gave 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:33.160 me a better. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.960 They did give me my own little like section later 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.480 on in the show where I got to do dance 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:41.080 with me and some other stuff, but the beginning was hard. 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.080 Yeah, yeah, that is tough. 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.360 That is tough, especially because kids just don't get I mean, 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.880 like talk talk about the age demo of who you 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:53.240 were really getting a chance to perform. I mean I 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.760 loved our age demo that the Channel brings to what 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.760 a concert is, you know, and so they don't really 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:03.520 get that's not something that they understand, you know, whether 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:06.400 or not they had heard that those were Zach's vocals 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:06.680 or not. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.560 I think there was a lot of confusion too though, 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.480 because they were like, but it sounds just like. 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.280 The right, that's the thing is. It's like, wait, that's it, 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.480 that's the voice, So something's not mixing. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.240 I'm just grateful. Yeah, whenever Zach was busy doing something, 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:21.960 I was the filling. I was just like the go 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.720 to guy. So I owned that as long as they 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:25.840 led me. It was really fun. 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:27.800 Yeah that's amazing. 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.760 So you're on tour, you're going you're going around, you're 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.520 singing all this stuff. Did you ever think that the 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.280 Channel was going to come back and be like, look, 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.520 you're doing so much for us. We got to get 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:40.960 your movie, we're gonna get your show, We're going to 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:41.680 get you something. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.720 Well, you know, in all honesty, yeah, Like there's always 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.160 that I think I don't know if I painted myself 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.520 into a box as a singer or if that was 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.840 just sort of how I was viewed, maybe because they 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.680 they they were quick to call when there was an album, 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.760 you know, release, or like the songs for something. But yeah, 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.520 I mean, I've been an actor in my whole life too, 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.240 and I was auditioning for all of these things. And 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:06.840 I got really close on camp Rock too with a 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.000 couple other guys, like tested for it with Kenny and 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:10.960 did the whole day audition like you do. And then 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.040 I believe instead of it was going to be a one, 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.960 one guy role, and then they decided to turn that 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:17.480 role into the Jonas brothers. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.960 Ah, you're good, but you can't play all three of 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:20.440 the Jonas. 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:20.680 Yeah. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:22.800 Yeah, I can't compete with three brothers. 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:24.280 That is. 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.480 You know. They did bring me in for their Broadway show, 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.120 which was awesome, but yeah, I would have loved to, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.160 you know, play play something on one of their shows. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.040 You know, I'm still around. You know, I could be 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:36.120 a coach. I could be a dad. 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:37.920 Yeah, are you living that dad? 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:38.240 Live? 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:38.840 You love it? 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.920 I am. I've got a beautiful five year old yeah, 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.240 I yeah, Wow, my life I. 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:46.440 Just That's amazing to me. 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:50.160 Now, So were you a Disney and Disney Channel fan 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:51.560 before all this stuff happened? 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.840 Uh? Well, I was, like I was twenty four when 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.880 High School Movival came out, so you know, it wasn't 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.600 what I watched on my downtime, but I but I 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:02.920 I was a fan of you know. I grew up 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.320 in Orlando too, so like Disney was Yeah, my was 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.200 my life from like fourteen to twenty two, twenty three 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.520 when I moved back to La So yeah, I've loved 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.119 Disney forever. But you know, usually I gravitate tour like 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.040 the classic Disney films, you know, like Lion King, a 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.280 Little Mermaid, Like, yeah, all the music from that kind 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.440 of era is like what really like gets me in 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.639 the heartstrings? You know? Yeah? So were you? 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.040 I mean if you had to pick at the time 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.040 when you were starting your career, if somebody said to 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.280 you what are you? Would you have said, I'm an actor, 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.320 I'm a singer. Would you have said I'm an entertainer? 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.159 Like I still have trouble answering that question, Like I 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.959 find like where they intersect is like where I thrive 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:41.200 and where the best experiences I've had in my career 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.800 I've come from. I did this movie called Love Struck 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:48.919 Deborah Martin Chase produced randomly hm, but that was yeah, singing, dancing, acting, 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.560 all the Broadways, the Broadway stuff. Yeah. I even did 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.200 a Christmas movie a couple of years ago called Christmas 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.560 Movie Magic that ended with like a big Freda Staire 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:02.320 Ginger Rogers dance number the snow while singing. So like, 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.720 I still get sent those kind of scripts, and that's 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.560 kind of what I love doing. So so huge. You're 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.720 Hugh Jackman, that is that is like he's one of 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.680 my ultimate idols. Yeah, like that's the girl. 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:18.480 I love that connection. Yes, I am here for that. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:19.359 That's amazing. 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.920 That's awesome. Yeah, I guess I gotta start working out. Yeah, 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:24.160 you did get. 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.639 A chance to do all three right in the movie 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:30.040