1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Before when you were scouting him before he came here, 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: that made you know that he was going to be 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: good for your system. Well, what's funny with John is, uh, 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: John came to when I was coaching at the Dolphins. 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: John came to our local pro day and he was 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: like a fringe guy that you're like, this guy's this 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: guy's got something to him. And you liked him at 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: the University of Miami too. He is a rough and 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: just the same guy as today. 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: A gritty, tough, hard nose. Uh, very very good player 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: at the U. 12 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: And then you know he goes comes in the league 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: and and so when we scouted, you know, we're at 14 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: that point we're like, you know, we're counting on a 15 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: lot of young guys, so let's keep looking and seeing. 16 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: And just like with our system, uh, it's it's not 17 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people do it is run as much 18 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: outside zone and things that we ask our guys to do, 19 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: they do it in little bits and pieces, and so 20 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: you have to look hard to say, Okay, I see 21 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: it there, I see it there, I see it there, 22 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: And how then how can he do it? 23 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: Can't he do it? A lot? 24 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: And with him it was we were scouting him and 25 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: they actually didn't run any of that stuff really in 26 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: New York, but they pulled him on the toss crack plays, 27 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, and you could see when he pulled, You're like, oh, 28 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: there it is. There's that little bit of quickness. There's 29 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of something in there. It was the 30 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: same thing with Banks. We got Banks on another day 31 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: and it's like Trent looked and said, this dude's a monster. 32 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: He's not gonna fit in our system. But then all 33 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you saw him go out on the 34 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: screen and you saw him pull out a power playing 35 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: like it's there. But what you have to do is 36 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: you have to then drill it every day to get 37 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: it out of him. And and you saw it in 38 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: John and then so he was already a good pro, 39 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: hard working, smart, tough, all those things, but then you 40 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: saw it just enough of what he needs, the skill 41 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: set he needs to play in our system. 42 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: It was there they run transits the beginning. Basically, was 43 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: he really only seventy five percent the other day? 44 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think that's probably a pretty 45 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: accurate assessment of where he was, knowing seeing how he 46 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: was on Friday, and then, uh, you know how the 47 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: guys managed the pain. Uh, you know, going up to 48 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: the game and everything. So there's always a you know, 49 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: they get to a certain point and they know that 50 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: they can probably make it through. I've always referenced these 51 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: other cats, but out that Ogden was the same guy. 52 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: Remember him. It was the first time I heard it. 53 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: We were in Baltimore. He goes, yeah, you know the 54 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: guy I'm playing today. I can play at seventy five 55 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: eighty percent if we were playing Dwight Freeney. I think 56 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: I mentioned I don't know if I could go at 57 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: eighty percent eighty five percent. I don't think anybody. You know, 58 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: the one hundred percent thing in this league is everybody 59 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: gets hurt, right, and so playing a one hundred percent 60 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: once the season starts is really hard to say. You 61 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: feel fresh as a daisy, you know, all that is 62 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: not probably it. So but yeah, I would say it's 63 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: probably what he was and and but it didn't show. 64 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: I think there were certain plays. It wasn't like the 65 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: championship game a few years ago against the Rams, where 66 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: he wasn't anywhere near that, And then it showed out 67 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: almost every play Chris How's Colton looked at practice this week, 68 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: and who is your who do you have most confidence 69 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: in at right guard, right tackle. 70 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to interrupt you. 71 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Colt is Colt's fine right now? You know, right now 72 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: he's doing well. Uh, you know, I don't know the 73 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: extent or you know, all those things. Like I said, 74 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm really hard pressed to comment on anything on injuries 75 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: other than the fact that he looked he looked fine 76 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: at practice today. And then it's right now, it's it's 77 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: it'd be go with it with Matt Pryor. But although 78 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: you know Jalenes did such a nice job at left, 79 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: it would you know, you think if if if Matt 80 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: stumbles or doesn't do as well, if something were to 81 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: happen to Colon, then maybe Jayleen would go in at 82 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: that spot. 83 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 2: We have that flexibility. Same thing at the left. 84 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: If forever in James not to well, macad go to 85 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: the left. You know, they both can play both sides. 86 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: It's just that with having them up that way, they 87 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: can focus on one and it does help them in 88 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: a prep instead of having a swing guy. What was 89 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: your impression of Kyle at the end of the game, 90 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: you know, forced feeding McCaffrey after you ask for it. 91 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: Seemed like kind of an old school you know, Dad 92 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: kind of did that with Roald Davis to get in 93 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: two thousand yards. What was your impression of that. Yeah, 94 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: I think you can always get to the point where 95 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: you're like the risk of injury. I get it, man. 96 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: Like I called McDaniel, I said, dude, you have it's 97 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: a once in a lifetime opportunity to break the scoring record. Right, 98 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: it is a one, this is a this is a 99 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: unbelievable record here, right, it's I think it's the right 100 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: thing to do. Personally, I think it's the right thing 101 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: to do. I could be wrong, you know, but I would. 102 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: I think these I've there's too many times like I'll 103 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: never forget. Sorry another story, never forget. We're playing We're 104 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: playing Tesse Titans, and we I was at Baltimore and we. 105 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: Came in at halftime and they were kicking our butts, 106 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean up and down. We had no and I 107 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: came in and sat down and we were talking about 108 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: plays around the second half. 109 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: I said, hey, did we have a first down? 110 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: And somebody looked at the statue. She said, now, well 111 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: we got one, but I got called back by a pant. 112 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: I said, that's the first time. I mean, and it 113 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: was like fifteen years. I said, I've never played an 114 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: NFL game and not hit a first down at halftime. 115 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: So I liked those first because I know for it 116 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: to be a first in the NFL is a big deal. 117 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: So to be able to score that many touchdowns that 118 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 1: many consecutive games is a really, really big deal. 119 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: Sorry, New England Patriots. I love this story. 120 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: But New England Patriots, all of a sudden, before the kickoff, 121 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm in Miami, We're playing the Patriots. Olinda Mari is 122 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: the kicker, and he comes up lame in pregame warm ups, 123 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Wes Welker becomes our kickoff, 124 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: our field goal kicker, our receiver. 125 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: So he kicks a field goal. 126 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: He kicks off and makes a tackle on a kickoff right, 127 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: he kicks extra points. 128 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: He scored. 129 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: I think he think he might have a receiving touchdown. 130 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: I didn't realize all this was going on. I was 131 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: actually the offensive coordinator. I would have handed him a 132 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: run to get him in, but his shoes end up 133 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame on Monday. We lost, 134 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: but you realize this was a pretty special moment. They 135 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: took his shoes and they sent him to Canton because 136 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: nobody'd ever done all those things in one game. 137 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: So now I forget the original question. 138 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: But the Christian McCaffrey, and I know I did, but 139 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey in his deal, So yeah, that's the that's 140 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: that's I think it's a really special thing and it was. 141 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: Something worthwhile McDaniel. 142 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: I text him, and Mike doesn't respond to text during 143 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: the season. So I got to a couple other people 144 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: in the organization. I said, dude, I would have gone 145 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: for it there like we didn't think so no way 146 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: to be I said, it's seventy to whatever it was. 147 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: Or I think, dude, come on, I mean another seven points, 148 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: it's over, so go for it. 149 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: But I get it. I get both sides of that story. 150 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 2: Excuse me. It did not big time. 151 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: If Mike does not respond to people during the season, 152 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: he's very hard. It's been that way forever. It's kind 153 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: of a bony contention with everybody. He doesn't He just 154 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: then and then by week he did send one text, 155 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: which is nice, this is Tampa d line. 156 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: What do you see kan Si Wilson. They got a 157 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: lot of they got a lot of different kinds of players. Yep. 158 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: As always, the defensive line is a very very talented group. 159 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Vidave is talent man, he's a he's a beast and 160 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: does a great job for them. Ninety four the young 161 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: kid from pitt I don't know all their names right now. 162 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: Ninety four does a really really good job. The edge 163 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: rushers are good. I mean, this is a talented rush group, 164 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: and you got to be on point. You got to 165 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: be on point. We've had to be every week. I mean, 166 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: these guys are you know, it's nice to have him 167 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: at home. I think when we played, you know, Cincinnati, 168 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: not a great game for us, but protection wise, we 169 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: held up okay against those guys, and it was because 170 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: I think you get him on the grass, you have 171 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: the cages, you're not going to silent count. All those 172 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: things add up to help us at home. Now, that 173 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they don't come in and just run. 174 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: Us over too. 175 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: They're a good rush group, and Todd Bowles is not 176 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: afraid to pressure and make it really hard on everybody. 177 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: So I think they're a talented group. And again another 178 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: group we got to be very well prepared for what 179 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: they've done this year. Have they blitzed as much as 180 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: they normally do. 181 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: You know, I don't. 182 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: I don't count those things because I think it I 183 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: think it's all statistic of one. 184 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: It's what are they gonna do against you? You know 185 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's like it's it's a one game. 186 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: It's yeah, we can say it's a trend, but why 187 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: were they blitzing Philly or why were they not blitzing Philly? 188 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: And then why were they blitzing this team and that team? 189 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: So to me, it's like I don't really look at 190 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: it that much. Tom bowlsman coaching forever. He's got every 191 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: blitz in the book known to man, and kind of 192 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: like when you got from the Giants came in here, 193 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: it's all there, and it's just what are you going 194 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: to see? 195 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: And if what why he would decide to do is 196 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: to stop you. 197 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: And even though you look back and say, Okay, well 198 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: he did this to Kyle here, he did this to us, 199 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: it's this other spot and then you're like, there's a 200 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: whole other bag of tricks. And he looks at us 201 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 1: the season this year and sees what maybe we've maybe 202 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: we have something that needs to fixing that they can 203 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: pick on, so who knows. Thanks, thanks for putting up 204 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: with my stories.