Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Sean Merriman A one hand effect.
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Speaker 1: Out with Sean Merriman. What's up? Guys? Were back again
Speaker 1: with another Lights Out podcast with me Seawan Merriman. Uh
Speaker 1: and this is special, this special one. I think we've
Speaker 1: we've all watched the Jake Paul and been asked, grin asked,
Speaker 1: grew as, uh, the best who's ever done in? Michael
Speaker 1: Buffer really watched that name last night? At least most
Speaker 1: of us was watching the fight right. A few takeaways
Speaker 1: from me. I got an opportunity to watch that Paul
Speaker 1: for some time now up closing personal So I've seen
Speaker 1: him work, So I'm gonna be a little bit biased,
Speaker 1: uh in how people are shocked about him beating Ben. Now,
Speaker 1: let me get this straight. I'm waking up in the morning,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing everyone saying on social media that the fight
Speaker 1: was fixed, that it was staged. I just want to
Speaker 1: remind people that this is in nineteen seventy five what
Speaker 1: they should throw fights back in the day, and none
Speaker 1: of that made sense. It's more of a I just
Speaker 1: think that people don't want to give Jake Paul to credit. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting up here and crowning him king of
Speaker 1: boxing and he's the best fighter ever. But this kid
Speaker 1: has been he's been fighting in boxing and training just
Speaker 1: for you know, a couple of years now, and I
Speaker 1: think we've all seen his progression. But give him credit.
Speaker 1: You know, it's time to give him some credit because
Speaker 1: even now still people will come in and say that
Speaker 1: Ben is in a boxer. Let me let me remind
Speaker 1: you been asking is a decorated fighter maybe m m A.
Speaker 1: But he's a decorated fighter. He's been in some real battles,
Speaker 1: some real wars with some top notch level, high class fighters,
Speaker 1: and it's beating him. So yeah, I'm not gonna give
Speaker 1: him the upper hand in boxing, which he shouldn't. Never
Speaker 1: came in his fight with the upper hand anyway, because
Speaker 1: Jake has been training and boxing and sparring pro boxes
Speaker 1: for the last almost two years. I'll take it back
Speaker 1: to say this, just as everybody else, when you see
Speaker 1: YouTuber or social media star, uh, internet star or whatever
Speaker 1: you wanna call it, come and do something else, you
Speaker 1: automatically have a red flag. You don't have the confidence,
Speaker 1: you don't have the uh, you don't have to trust
Speaker 1: that this guy is gonna go out and do things
Speaker 1: he's doing right now in the boxing ring. That changed
Speaker 1: for me when I got a chance to go and
Speaker 1: stay with Jake Paul and his team b J for
Speaker 1: his great coach and Shane Mosley's place up in Big Bear,
Speaker 1: why I trained with him for a few days. It
Speaker 1: totally changed my opinion of how I saw not only
Speaker 1: Jake Paul, but anybody is willing to put in a
Speaker 1: time and effort and transitioning from what they do to
Speaker 1: something else. One thing I would like to remind everybody
Speaker 1: is that you don't play fighting. And I see people
Speaker 1: all the time that there's calling certain people out and
Speaker 1: calling either even pro boxers or pro fighters out on
Speaker 1: social media, and to me, it's just a bunch of
Speaker 1: cloud chasing, which we have a lot of it nowadays,
Speaker 1: so that's understandable. But one thing I can tell you
Speaker 1: is you don't play fighting. Nate Robinson found that out,
Speaker 1: and some of these other guys are fighting out who's
Speaker 1: just kind of going to test the waters. I'm a
Speaker 1: big advocate and I've talked about it for years. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about it now. I've I've always think that Uh,
Speaker 1: the guys should go and transition and and pick up
Speaker 1: some form of or discipline of combat sports. I think
Speaker 1: it's good for you. I think it's uh to have
Speaker 1: that regiment. I think to have that motive to get
Speaker 1: up and go and learn something every day. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's great, great to do. But you can't play fighting.
Speaker 1: So let's just rewind this back a little bit and
Speaker 1: uh j Paul knocking out Nate Robinson, which we all
Speaker 1: seen that it became one of the biggest memes of
Speaker 1: of I can't get this pandemic, got me all messed up, um,
Speaker 1: but it became one of the biggest memes on the
Speaker 1: Internet and social media. Nave Robinson quickly found out that
Speaker 1: if you don't train, and you don't have the backing
Speaker 1: and and and and the proper technique and going back
Speaker 1: going into uh fighting boxing, especially that you're gonna get
Speaker 1: knocked out. You're gonna get embarrassed. So everyone said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, Nate Robinson didn't train, he's a basketball player
Speaker 1: and all this other stuff, and if if Jake Paul
Speaker 1: fought a real fighter, then it's gonna be a different story. Well,
Speaker 1: been asking is a real fighter, He's retired, and he
Speaker 1: look just as out of shape as he's always been been.
Speaker 1: Asking has never been the uh he never passed the
Speaker 1: eye the eye the eye contest, right, he never passed that.
Speaker 1: But he's always been a damn good fighter. So what now?
Speaker 1: I think what now is? And you look on social
Speaker 1: media as I did after the fight, which is a long, long,
Speaker 1: long fight with way too many performances, I think that
Speaker 1: you're going to if you're trying to convert any kind
Speaker 1: of boxing fans, m m A fans, combat sports fans
Speaker 1: in general, you gotta take out some of the performances.
Speaker 1: They were great, just to people with great dog Cat,
Speaker 1: don't I mean? And too short ice Cube and Snoop
Speaker 1: Dogg obviously legends, you know, take two or three those acts,
Speaker 1: keep those and move on where it's entertaining still, but
Speaker 1: you gotta lose the extra you got to. You're just
Speaker 1: gonna turn too many fight fans away who are well,
Speaker 1: you're trying to convert some of those fight fans into
Speaker 1: what you're doing trailer. I think they're doing a great job,
Speaker 1: but get rid of some of those performances. That's just
Speaker 1: my opinion. The second part of it is is that
Speaker 1: going into this fight, there was a lot of people
Speaker 1: that gave Jake Paul no shot. Why because he's a
Speaker 1: YouTube fighter, he's in that star. Oh he only knocked
Speaker 1: out basketball players and other YouTube stars. Well, I thought
Speaker 1: for sure coming into this fight and if he won,
Speaker 1: it was going to change people the opinion of him
Speaker 1: and anybody else who puts in the time and effort
Speaker 1: to transition into combat sports. Well it didn't. In fact,
Speaker 1: when I looked on social media after the fight, I
Speaker 1: saw more hate. I saw that Ben Asking wasn't a fighter,
Speaker 1: that Jake Paul should fight a real fighter. I saw
Speaker 1: that it was staged. It was a fluke, it was
Speaker 1: set up, and quite frankly, I think that the rev
Speaker 1: did a great job in stopping a fight because it
Speaker 1: could have got ugly. Sometimes you don't need to see
Speaker 1: a one knockout a guy laying out cold before you
Speaker 1: call a fight. If a guy can't walk to you
Speaker 1: on a straight line and got on his drunk goggles,
Speaker 1: that's it's time to call the fight. I also seeing that,
Speaker 1: and I go back to the cloud, chasing the the
Speaker 1: trying to get notoriety, guys calling Jake Paul out all
Speaker 1: over some some who haven't done well in their own sport,
Speaker 1: which made no sense to me. Fox Sports Radio has
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Speaker 1: to listen live. So you're you're calling guys out because
Speaker 1: you didn't do well in your sport and you've been
Speaker 1: beat up, you lost plenty of fights. But yet you
Speaker 1: want to cloud and fighting somebody who's only been fighting
Speaker 1: for two years? What good does that do? What good
Speaker 1: does that dude, Jake Paul? What good does that do
Speaker 1: anybody who is trying to make money in the sport.
Speaker 1: And let me remind you, guys, these guys are out
Speaker 1: fighting for money, and I'll tell guys, it's in lights
Speaker 1: out extreme fighting my fighters. You're fighting to make money
Speaker 1: and take care of your family. So if you're a fighter,
Speaker 1: they don't have a big following. You've already been beat
Speaker 1: up and had many losses in your own sport. Stop
Speaker 1: calling now, Jake Paul or anybody who you see can
Speaker 1: be an easy come up in or easy cloud chase
Speaker 1: into another field. All right, you didn't you want successful
Speaker 1: successful in what you did? Stop trying to get cloud
Speaker 1: and fight someone who you know you can possibly be,
Speaker 1: And what good is it to Jake Paul? Did mind you?
Speaker 1: I don't I believe Jake Paul made five plus million
Speaker 1: if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken last night. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the pay per view is gonna come
Speaker 1: back in, but I'm assumed that they are at least
Speaker 1: a million pay per views and up. Why would Jake
Speaker 1: Paul or anybody fight you to go backwards? The object
Speaker 1: in this fight game is to make as much money
Speaker 1: as you can. Why you can because it don't last forever.
Speaker 1: And I'll be the first one to tell you that
Speaker 1: coming from the NFL, I don't last forever. You make
Speaker 1: your money, you provide for your family, and you move on.
Speaker 1: So what's next? I you know, whether it's another m
Speaker 1: M A fighter, whether it's another boxer, which I don't
Speaker 1: see is gonna happen, because I don't unless you're a
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather or uh you know, a bigger now Manny
Speaker 1: pac Our or or just you know someone with a
Speaker 1: bigger name Danny Garcia. I mean, it's just just someone
Speaker 1: with a bigger name in boxing, which is not gonna
Speaker 1: be much of a match because you're more skilled than
Speaker 1: Jake Paul or another guy who is starting out starting
Speaker 1: to fight. So what's next? Look, and I saw that
Speaker 1: Jake Paul wants Nadias. I think that would be a
Speaker 1: great fight. I think that obviously, you know, Nadias is
Speaker 1: a much better boxer, a much better athlete than that
Speaker 1: been asking. I think that's the next fight to go.
Speaker 1: But what if let's let's say this, and and and
Speaker 1: Nadiaz is one of the one of the badasses of
Speaker 1: of of of our time, right, even though I'm just
Speaker 1: talking by the combat sports in general, just just a
Speaker 1: just a badass across the board. What if? What's what?
Speaker 1: What is it gonna take for Jake Paul or any
Speaker 1: one of these guys to go and try who transitioning
Speaker 1: over before they get some credit and not to be
Speaker 1: staged or not to be set up. What's it gonna take?
Speaker 1: My guess is this, you know, Jake Paul and and
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys who are transitioned over in
Speaker 1: a Frank Mull who also afforded that car to afford
Speaker 1: the professional boxer didn't look as bad as I thought
Speaker 1: he would. But anybody who knows the fight game and
Speaker 1: understand how things go. Um Frank Mull could have been
Speaker 1: knocked out at any given time. It looked like he
Speaker 1: was being uh, they were being it was letting up
Speaker 1: on him. This guy was a world champion boxer and
Speaker 1: couldn't knocked him out any any given time in my opinion.
Speaker 1: But I can tell you this. I can tell you
Speaker 1: who started all of it. And whether you want to hate,
Speaker 1: love or do whatever you want to do, I can
Speaker 1: tell you who started. It's Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor.
Speaker 1: They set the tone, They opened the floodgates for these
Speaker 1: things to happen. And this is why combat sports, boxing,
Speaker 1: m m A, whatever it is, will continue continue to
Speaker 1: get bigger. The sports are going to continue to grow.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a lot of retired athletes, a lot
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, celebrities, entertainers who are will now
Speaker 1: uh look to start fighting other entertainers, other athletes. And
Speaker 1: this is something I've been talking about for the last
Speaker 1: few years. This is this is where combat sports is going.
Speaker 1: And I and I say this and anybody who have
Speaker 1: a problem with this not And I come across a
Speaker 1: lot of fighters that initially I don't know so much
Speaker 1: now that initially had a problem with these things taking place.
Speaker 1: You know, you have a Jake Paul or Someone's coming
Speaker 1: into the industry and they're making five hundred thousand I
Speaker 1: think been asking last night took home between eight hundred
Speaker 1: thousand and a million bucks. Ben Ashkin didn't make a
Speaker 1: million bucks and three fights fighting. M m m A right.
Speaker 1: So what you're gonna have here is a different landscape
Speaker 1: of combat sports. It's gonna start happening here soon. And
Speaker 1: any any fighter, or any fan or anybody that has
Speaker 1: a problem with this, don't understand what you have a
Speaker 1: problem with. This is going to grow the sport. More
Speaker 1: doors are gonna be open, more things is gonna happen,
Speaker 1: More opportunities gonna happen for the fighters. And if I'm
Speaker 1: a fighter, I want these things to happen. I want
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to fight and knock out a
Speaker 1: social media star, a YouTuber, a basketball player, football player,
Speaker 1: rugby star, track star, whatever it is, I want to
Speaker 1: I want that opportunity because that opportunity means more money
Speaker 1: for me. So when you fight, or anybody is coming
Speaker 1: into the fight game or in the fight game that
Speaker 1: has a problem with this or or think it's a
Speaker 1: freak show. Maybe it is, maybe it's a fat Maybe
Speaker 1: it's a freak show. But people are buying it to
Speaker 1: pay for you show. It is a real thing, and
Speaker 1: people are tuned in and you and tell by things
Speaker 1: trending on social media last night and now major outlets,
Speaker 1: major TV, major streaming are all covering it because it
Speaker 1: is a thing. So what is it gonna take for
Speaker 1: Jake Paul to get some respect? Does he does he
Speaker 1: have to fight a guy like Nadias? Does he have
Speaker 1: to fight another boxer? In my opinion, if I'm Jake Paul,
Speaker 1: I keep picking my opponents the way I want to
Speaker 1: pick them, and I'll keep calling out everybody who I
Speaker 1: want to call out. And if if I'm a fighter
Speaker 1: on m M, a side boxer, whoever it may be,
Speaker 1: and have an opportunity to take a fight like this
Speaker 1: and make make that this type of money, you take it.
Speaker 1: So those are my thoughts. Man, I would I was
Speaker 1: sitting back and and watching the fight just everybody, like
Speaker 1: everyone else, made a little money. Myself, well not a
Speaker 1: little money, a lot of a lot of money. Last night.
Speaker 1: The bett the Bett Knowedge were nice for me. But
Speaker 1: this is the thing, and this is the thing that's
Speaker 1: gonna be around for a long time. I myself have
Speaker 1: been working on transitioning athletes from other sports into M
Speaker 1: and man combat sports. I think it's a beautiful thing
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be a thing of the
Speaker 1: future and it's gonna be around for a very long time.
Speaker 1: So who who's next? Who do you guys want to see? Fight?
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening in to another lights our
Speaker 1: podcast or me Shawn Merriman, And that was it was
Speaker 1: cool for me because look, this is this is big.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a big thing with athletes, with celebrities, YouTubers,
Speaker 1: internet stars, you name it. It's gonna be around for
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