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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 2: We got a former Arizona State Sun devil here baby

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Speaker 2: with us, one of my good buddies Meryl Kelly joining us,

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Speaker 2: and one of the head of the rotations. That's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a big focal point. I'm gonna start just because

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Speaker 2: we had one of your new former teammates already, Zach

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Speaker 3: How big is it to have him back?

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Speaker 1: Huge?

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Speaker 4: You know, obviously his resume the last couple of years

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Speaker 4: you know, on and off the field that the guys

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Speaker 4: in the clubhouse rely on. Then they they go to

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Speaker 4: when there's a big time situation, and just to have

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Speaker 4: another anchor in the rotation another piece of depth, is

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Speaker 4: obviously huge.

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Speaker 3: He's I think, Yeah, sorry, Scott.

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Speaker 5: You I just wanted to ask while we're on that topic,

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Speaker 5: you know, for you, I mean, you guys actually had

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Speaker 5: very different off seasons. You signed pretty early, Zach had

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Speaker 5: He had, you know, kind of an up and down season,

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Speaker 5: the second half much better than the first. So for you,

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Speaker 5: what was the free agent process, like it seems pretty smooth.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, mine was, like you said, probably a lot

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Speaker 4: more fun than his was. I'm just watching his from afar,

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Speaker 4: you know, being so close. We played golf, you know,

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Speaker 4: probably once a week in the offseason, and every time

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Speaker 1: It was it was shocking.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think anybody, like you said, the

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Speaker 4: down season, but I don't think anybody could have imagined

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Speaker 1: But for me, it was cool.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the fact that these guys were first

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Speaker 4: last year, that that was their goal, and the.

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Speaker 1: Fact that they showed up.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's not a lot of times I feel

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Speaker 4: like that you leave a team and then are able

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Speaker 4: and lucky enough to come back to the place that

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Speaker 4: you want. I'll be forever grateful for these guys, you know,

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Speaker 4: sitting here going into my eighth year coming back from Korea.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think I ever could have imagined

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Speaker 4: see the fact that they you know, they what their

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Speaker 4: and they made it very apparent that they wanted me back.

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Speaker 6: You're one of the few guys that gets traded and

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Speaker 6: comes back, right, So that had to make you feel special,

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Speaker 6: because most guys get traded and they never get to

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Speaker 6: that right there tells me they must have wanted you bad, bad,

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Speaker 6: because it's pretty awesome as a player to have that feeling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, I'm lucky.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, I don't think too many guys get

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Speaker 4: the opportunity to go back to a team that they

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Speaker 4: Usually when you get traded, it's kind of like, all right,

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Speaker 4: thanks for your service, but we're gonna move on. But

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Speaker 4: like I said, even the conversations the day of the

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Speaker 4: it was kind of a conversation of like, hey, we

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Speaker 4: But I feel like I left it off with Hayes

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Speaker 5: What was it like for you in Texas?

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Speaker 4: Uh, Texas was cool. It actually worked out because my

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Speaker 4: it was nice being able to be coming from one

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Speaker 1: So it was actually pretty comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Did you learn any of Mike Maddox when you're out there? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a short time.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, those times are limited, and I feel like when

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Speaker 4: you get traded to an ORG, it's kind of like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: And we want you to Yeah, we want you to

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Speaker 4: So the sample size was pretty small, and I feel

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Speaker 4: much as we can.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Meryl, you know Ken Rosenthal part of the the

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Speaker 5: ft network here. I saw that he said there might

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Speaker 5: have been a little bigger offer in terms of guaranteed

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Speaker 5: you speak to that at all? If there was another team,

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Speaker 5: I mean, hey, you're now locked in for two years.

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Speaker 5: Were you considering another ball club potentially in California and decided, Hey,

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Speaker 5: I've got my setup really nicely here. I've been with Arizona.

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Speaker 5: I've got the home in Arizona. Take us through that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think, first and foremost, going into the

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Speaker 4: whole big league career. Coming back here was always first

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Speaker 4: and foremost. It was always the priority. But yeah, there

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Speaker 4: pretty much figure out who that was. There was a

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Speaker 4: three year offer guaranteed on the table, but the numbers,

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Speaker 4: and like you said, the home situation with the family

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Speaker 4: and you know, I don't think any it's any secret

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Speaker 4: it just made a lot more sense to come back here.

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Speaker 6: Was that team. Does that team wear blue? That's all

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna ask.

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Speaker 4: That team doesn't that team does not wear blue red orange.

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Speaker 4: They're a little further south than the team. They're a

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Speaker 7: Sales Vagina, and.

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Speaker 4: That was like it worked out best for us because

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Speaker 4: six hour drive to San Diego. But yeah, the desert

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Speaker 6: Meryl, you're the first person ever that's been offered a

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Speaker 6: bunch of money to go live in San Diego and said, no,

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Speaker 7: He's such a bad guy san Diego.

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Speaker 4: No, I love San Diego. It's just like I said,

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Speaker 4: they take too much money out of my pocket.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 4: The taxes over there are are a different level. We

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Speaker 4: had some numbers, guys run the number. No, we had

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Speaker 4: and it just made more sense to come home, which

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Speaker 4: is crazy on a two year compared to a three year, right.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, a three year if if it's lower AAV

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Speaker 5: and then you've got the huge tax difference.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and La Joya and La Joya ain't cheap, you know.

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Speaker 7: No, Yeah, you know you can live Inland, Hey, maryl.

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Speaker 4: To San Diego and live away from the beach. That's

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Speaker 4: what's the point of that. I might as well live

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Speaker 3: It's a fair rebuttal.

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Speaker 7: He's the scorpion King.

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Speaker 5: Actually, you know what, So we spoke to Drake Jamison

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Speaker 5: earlier and he called you the change up Wizard. What

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Speaker 5: trying to learn how to effectively use a change up

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Speaker 4: That's high praise from from Dre because his heater is

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Speaker 1: I would say the biggest thing for me and the

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Speaker 4: You know, I think anytime you try to detract and

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Speaker 4: I've never been good at physically changing speeds, you know,

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Speaker 4: But I think I get away with that because everything

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Speaker 4: But if I had to give one tip, it would

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Speaker 4: probably just be try to throw it the same as

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Speaker 4: Guys try to slow up and are worried about the

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Speaker 4: speed differential, you know, some guys just got it. I

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Speaker 4: don't understand how guys throw ninety five mile an hour

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense in my brain. Look at me,

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Speaker 1: But that's probably be My.

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Speaker 4: One tip is try to throw everything the same because

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Speaker 4: I think for the change up, the biggest thing is

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Speaker 4: the eye test. And when you try to start manipulating

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Speaker 2: See when you said you're not good at just creating

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Speaker 2: I heard is I can repeat my arm slot. That's

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Speaker 2: my throw every single time. First, staying on the change

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you. I try to force you to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, Meryl, how's your back?

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Speaker 7: Your schedule more than likely to be Opening day? Starter?

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, let me ask you something about this team,

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 4: The Dodgers have been fortunate where they can do that

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Speaker 7: Even though I hated to just get in. You never

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Speaker 8: All right.

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Speaker 6: So you played in the WBC in twenty three, right,

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Speaker 6: You want a championship with the in the KBO, if

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Speaker 8: I doubt it. I would if I asked, but I

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Speaker 1: I think you got to have something.

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Speaker 4: I think you gotta have some sort of lineage, and

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Speaker 4: I think it'd be a I think it'd be a blast,

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Speaker 7: Okay, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: If you could just flash your ring from the KBO

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Speaker 7: You know I have won championships for you before, so

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Speaker 6: It gets quick? Citizenship, Yeah, I don't know. All right,

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Speaker 6: Do you are you going to rub it into Kip

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Speaker 7: He's been to retire for six years now, So.

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Speaker 2: Don't let me take don't let AJ divide us right now.

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Speaker 2: Watching this guy, yeah, this is what he does. No,

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Speaker 5: That.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I know him, I know where he's

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Speaker 7: You have like a special handshake with your little thing.

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Speaker 2: See see get him all out right now, just get

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Speaker 7: I don't know, do you guys like? Do you guys like.

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Speaker 5: I got something for you?

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Speaker 7: He didn't.

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Speaker 5: He also played at Yabapai.

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Speaker 4: Was only at ASU for a year. I think people

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Speaker 7: Not paying you?

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Speaker 1: How much?

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Speaker 3: This is what he does?

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Speaker 7: Okay, I get it, and like.

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Speaker 4: But I got I got nothing. I got nothing for

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Speaker 5: He's a rich man managing a good team.

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Speaker 10: These days that I.

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Speaker 4: But to see what he's done over there and and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got something good going there. Well, Marilyn, this

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Excited to see the Diamondbacks make some noise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: We got the handsome devil Paul Seawalt here coming in

445
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Speaker 2: just through a bullpen, and it's nice enough to join

446
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Speaker 2: us right now.

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Speaker 5: Hey, what's up, Paul?

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Speaker 7: How was the bullpen?

449
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Speaker 8: It was good? It was good.

450
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Speaker 11: We're out here just already got the Arizona sunshine going.

451
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Speaker 11: It's already hot, but it's good.

452
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Speaker 8: It's good. Camps for good. It's uh.

453
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Speaker 11: I got to skip a couple of the days that

454
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Speaker 11: you know, we shouldn't be here anyway, so that worked.

455
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Speaker 8: Out just fine.

456
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Speaker 10: There you go.

457
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Speaker 7: What was it eighty eight cutters? Were were we working

458
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Speaker 7: on to eighty eight high cutters? The low armslot. The

459
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Speaker 7: high cutter.

460
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Speaker 11: Plays like it's cutting. Look they think it's supposed to

461
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Speaker 11: be sinking. I don't even know what it does. I

462
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Speaker 11: just try to get out. I just try to confuse

463
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Speaker 11: him enough until they look back and can't figure out

464
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Speaker 11: what happened.

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Speaker 3: They can't know what it does if I don't exactly

466
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Speaker 3: that's exactly.

467
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Speaker 5: Hey, Paul, I want to ask you a question that

468
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Speaker 5: I just relayed over to Merrill Kelly. Do you feel

469
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Speaker 5: like people forgot the Diamondbacks made the World Series in

470
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty three. There are a lot of the same

471
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Speaker 5: names from that team back then. I mean, of course

472
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Speaker 5: you were a part of that run. And there's so

473
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Speaker 5: much talk about how it's unfair for the rest of

474
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Speaker 5: the league. You know, only the big market teams have

475
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Speaker 5: a chance, and I am putting the Diamondbacks more in

476
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Speaker 5: the mid to even maybe a little bit behind that range,

477
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Speaker 5: because a lot of it's looking at TV money, not

478
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Speaker 5: TV market, and they don't make a lot TV money wise.

479
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Speaker 7: It's a fact.

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Speaker 5: So your thoughts when people say it's so unfair and

481
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Speaker 5: your team smacked the Dodgers a couple of years ago.

482
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Speaker 11: Three years in baseball feels like an eternity, right, It's

483
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Speaker 11: like twenty twenty three year almost like I forgot that.

484
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Speaker 11: I forgot about that World Series and we're talking about

485
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Speaker 11: literally just two seasons ago. But you know, they were

486
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Speaker 11: one strike away from the Blue Jays winning last year,

487
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Speaker 11: and I thought, I mean, I thought the Padres were

488
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Speaker 11: better than them in twenty four when we played them,

489
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Speaker 11: you know, back to back at the at the end

490
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Speaker 11: of the year and they were on the rope. So

491
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Speaker 11: just you know, they made the pitches and made the

492
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Speaker 11: place when they had to at the end and kind

493
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Speaker 11: of wanted back to back World Series. But I mean

494
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Speaker 11: that margin for air is razor thin, so for people

495
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Speaker 11: to think that like this a foregone conclusion. Andrew Freeman

496
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 11: obviously thought that they needed to improve. That's why he

497
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 11: signed Kyle Tucker. That's why he signed Edwin Diez. I

498
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 11: mean he he felt like, I gotta make sure that

499
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Speaker 11: I improved the team or the rest of the league's

500
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Speaker 11: catching up to us. So people just like to complain

501
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Speaker 11: about things on the internet. And that's more. That's more

502
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Speaker 11: what it is than anything.

503
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Speaker 8: Have you ever heard of control, You ever had an

504
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Speaker 8: inter control?

505
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Speaker 11: I mean, people just like to complain about things, and

506
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Speaker 11: you know they're in our division, so certainly they're gonna

507
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Speaker 11: be a challenge for us. And and but twenty three

508
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Speaker 11: showed more than anything, they were maybe the best team

509
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Speaker 11: in the league. And you know, in a small sample

510
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Speaker 11: size like a like a postseason series, you just never

511
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Speaker 11: know what's gonna happen.

512
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Speaker 8: So that's why we're gonna play the games this year.

513
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Speaker 11: We're not gonna just uh, We're not gonna use Pakoda

514
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Speaker 11: standings to uh to decide the World Series champion. We're

515
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Speaker 11: gonna go out there and we're gonna play one six

516
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Speaker 11: to two and then hopefully we get a couple of

517
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Speaker 11: playoff games.

518
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Speaker 3: I like that. Now.

519
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Speaker 2: Now, obviously you're being familiar with them from playing with

520
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Speaker 2: them in twenty twenty three. How much of that factor

521
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Speaker 2: into you with them? And did they discuss it all

522
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Speaker 2: roles yet, because we know they have some injuries going

523
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Speaker 2: into it.

524
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Speaker 3: What have they talked to you about so far?

525
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean we moved here, so this is home now,

526
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 11: so it obviously had an impact. You know, we had

527
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Speaker 11: some offers that were all very similar. And when you

528
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Speaker 11: start talking about you know a little bit here and there,

529
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Speaker 11: staying at home is really important. And for me, the

530
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Speaker 11: most important thing is I have to go out there,

531
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Speaker 11: and I have to be healthy, and I have to

532
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Speaker 11: pitch healthy, right. I got to go out there and

533
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 11: I got to pitch fifty times this year. So for me,

534
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Speaker 11: it was like, what's the best opportunity for me to

535
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Speaker 11: do that. I think my own bed is is a

536
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Speaker 11: pretty high factor. So and I had amazing memories. My

537
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Speaker 11: favorite baseball memory I've ever had was winning the National

538
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Speaker 11: League Championship and that was in a Diamondbacks uniform. So

539
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Speaker 11: that's that's going to stick with me the rest of

540
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Speaker 11: my life. And so that that obviously had a little

541
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Speaker 11: bit of bias in this decision.

542
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Speaker 8: But I'm super excited to be back here.

543
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Speaker 3: Roles.

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Speaker 11: You know, I'm here to pitch whenever they tell me

545
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Speaker 11: to pitch. Yeah, you know, is that going to be late?

546
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Speaker 8: Maybe? Is it going to be early? It could be.

547
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Speaker 11: It's depending on how I throw the ball and how

548
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Speaker 11: other guys throw the ball. And you know, Aj and

549
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Speaker 11: Justin are not going to be back at the beginning

550
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Speaker 11: of the year. Who would be our best two best relievers,

551
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Speaker 11: So everyone's gonna have to step up and outperform themselves

552
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Speaker 11: a little bit until we get those guys back.

553
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Speaker 2: Either way, that's always the best mentality, and You've always

554
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Speaker 2: been that throughout your career that the best ability is availability.

555
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Speaker 2: I want to be available and I'm here with whatever

556
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Speaker 2: you guys need me, So I'm not demanding a role.

557
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Speaker 2: I think that type of guys like you are needed

558
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Speaker 2: on every single roster, not only because how good you are,

559
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Speaker 2: but just the way that you approach the game and

560
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Speaker 2: the way that you're willing to do whatever.

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Speaker 3: It takes, I think is a huge part.

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Speaker 11: And it you know, it could be a maybe I'm

563
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Speaker 11: a better matchup in the seventh inning versus the guys

564
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Speaker 11: they throw, then I would be in the eighth or

565
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Speaker 11: ninth where Thompson or Gink would be like, we're here

566
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Speaker 11: to win games, so I mean, we're gonna do whatever

567
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Speaker 11: we can to win those games. And and Torri and

568
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Speaker 11: Mike have kind of explained that to me that they're

569
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Speaker 11: you know, you don't have a role right now. It's

570
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Speaker 11: you're gonna go out there and you're gonna pitch. You

571
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Speaker 11: know you're gonna pitch, and we hope you get out

572
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Speaker 11: to when we get out there, so they need, we

573
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Speaker 11: know they need. We'll have aj justin back soon enough,

574
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Speaker 11: and that'll that'll be nice.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Paul, I haven't gone anywhere so quick. Saying I'm

576
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Speaker 6: gonna be back. Okay, I haven't gone anywhere. I'll be

577
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Speaker 6: ready for the opening season, all right. So let's just

578
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Speaker 6: you have to clarify on this show, Paul, because there's

579
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Speaker 6: too many AJ's in baseball and now, so you have

580
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Speaker 6: to call him puck, okay, not not agent, because then

581
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Speaker 6: I get all confused. I get all ramped up for

582
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Speaker 6: opening Day, like I'm gonna be out there, but I'm not.

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Speaker 8: I heard you had different nicknames when you were playing.

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Speaker 7: Yes, exactly, but that's fine. We all have to be

585
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Speaker 7: called something by our family.

586
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Speaker 3: It's okay.

587
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Speaker 6: When I told this story the other day on here,

588
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Speaker 6: and I hate to go back to this, but when

589
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Speaker 6: I saw you, you were in Detroit at the end

590
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Speaker 6: of last year, and I saw you in Seattle for

591
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Speaker 6: the for the postseason run, and you big lead me

592
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Speaker 6: and you walk past me, and I tried to say

593
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Speaker 6: hi to you. But guys, then you came back like

594
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Speaker 6: ten minutes later and apologized and you said, hey, I

595
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Speaker 6: just found out I wasn't gonna be on the roster.

596
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Speaker 6: I just wanted to say that I'm not bigger than you.

597
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Speaker 6: So I told that story, and I just want to

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Speaker 6: say thank you.

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Speaker 7: That was it.

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Speaker 6: I want to say thank you. You didn't have to do that.

601
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Speaker 6: I totally understood. I've been there, but I just want

602
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Speaker 6: to say to me, that was big league of you

603
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Speaker 6: to come up to me and say hey, I'm sorry

604
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Speaker 6: I didn't say hi, and listen, I got it. I understood,

605
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Speaker 6: or for you to come back man, thumbs up for me.

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Speaker 11: This guy I have my meeting with AJ's like, you

607
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 11: don't really look healthy. You know, we're not going to

608
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Speaker 11: go with you. You know I wasn't one hundred percent healthy.

609
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Speaker 11: I totally understand the whole perspective. I get the news

610
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Speaker 11: I walked past him. That's tough news to get right away,

611
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Speaker 11: right and he's like, oh, you're not going to say hi.

612
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Speaker 11: I apologize, ag. You were not at the top of

613
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Speaker 11: my mind at that moment. But I did make sure

614
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Speaker 11: to come back and say hello, and I did make

615
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Speaker 11: sure you knew the situation. You are correct, But foul

616
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Speaker 11: Territory guys, I wouldn't leave you hanging. It was just

617
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Speaker 11: a difficult three minutes of my time.

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Speaker 2: Fal Territory is actually just a front for AJ to

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Speaker 2: confront everybody that's big tim before we just talk other

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Speaker 2: things until we get to the guests that he can confront.

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Speaker 6: Dude, I told you, I told you two thumbs up

622
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Speaker 6: man for you coming back. I didn't know at the time,

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Speaker 6: and so then when you came back and explained it, listen,

624
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Speaker 6: you didn't have to say anything to me. I'll never

625
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Speaker 6: be mad at you for it. It's just more to

626
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Speaker 6: be able to talk a little shit. I mean, you

627
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Speaker 6: know you know it is.

628
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Speaker 7: I mean, trust me. I was in that Tigers clubhouse.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was in that Tiger's clubhouse for three three

630
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Speaker 6: games obviously for five days, but in Seattle, and I

631
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Speaker 6: heard Tommy Kinley get worn out because college football was on.

632
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Speaker 6: They wore him out for like the whole time. I

633
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 6: was standing in there about Notre Dame and about this

634
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Speaker 6: and about it was like, poor Tommy Kinley, I can

635
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Speaker 6: take it.

636
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Speaker 8: I mean, had your.

637
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Speaker 11: Irish jersey, you know, Irish shorts, and your Irish socks

638
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Speaker 11: and your Irish under armour shoots and they go, oh

639
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Speaker 11: in two in the first two games.

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Speaker 8: You deserve everything that comes.

641
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Speaker 10: Your way, thank you.

642
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Speaker 6: And he had his Eagles. The Eagles and the Irish

643
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Speaker 6: lost like the same weekend. So these guys were just

644
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Speaker 6: where I'm sorry yeah, it's.

645
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Speaker 5: Great cry babies during football season this year we can

646
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Speaker 5: That's one topic I can go all day on as

647
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Speaker 5: mister Miami. Okay, I want to get your thoughts on

648
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 5: a couple of league uh issues, or I would say

649
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Speaker 5: rule changes coming up here. So here's two the coaches

650
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Speaker 5: in the box rule and then we'll go to ABS

651
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Speaker 5: challenge system. So first off, coaches in the box rule

652
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Speaker 5: and the tipping paranoia that is taking over baseball with

653
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Speaker 5: AI incorporated. So your thoughts on that, I thought. I mean,

654
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Speaker 5: some guys are like, it's whatever, it's been going on forever.

655
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Speaker 5: Then Vinnie Pasporentino was on with us when we were

656
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Speaker 5: at Royals camp and he's like, hey, you ever see

657
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Speaker 5: some of the base coaches just not doing anything during

658
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Speaker 5: the game, like no signs, not talking to anybody on

659
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Speaker 5: the basis they're busy.

660
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Speaker 11: Yes, nobody, nobody comes to the field and doesn't do anything.

661
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Speaker 11: I think it's low key. If you're doing nothing, then

662
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Speaker 11: you're doing something you shouldn't be doing. You know, the

663
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Speaker 11: coaches boxes are there for a reason, and you know

664
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 11: the pitch tipping thing is the most important thing as

665
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 11: a pitcher you can worry about. I can do all

666
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 11: this stuff on track man, bullpens, I can do all

667
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 11: this work if the hitter knows what's coming. It doesn't

668
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 11: really do me any good to make my stuff extra nasty. So,

669
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 11: you know, if they can pick something up in the game,

670
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 11: I feel like that's pretty fair. You're talking about AI,

671
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 11: you know, doing one thousand models a second to try

672
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 11: to figure out if I did something different. I'm not

673
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 11: sure that that's totally appropriate, but you know, it's just

674
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 11: kind of the world we live in, and you just

675
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 11: have to make sure that you are indistinguishable at any

676
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 11: moment while you're out there. And I try to think

677
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 11: that I do everything off and not consistent. Anyway, if

678
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 11: I'm inconsistently consistent, then I think it can help my

679
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 11: chances that they can't pick something up. But you know,

680
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 11: the coaches boxes are there for a reason. I don't

681
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 11: really want them down the right field line trying to

682
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 11: look in my hand or down the left field line.

683
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 11: So we're just trying to keep things fair and make

684
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 11: sure that you know, if I'm tipping then they can

685
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 11: find it from there.

686
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 8: That's fine, but.

687
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: Let's try to say within the rules of that sort

688
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: of situation. Then for the other rule change, we've got

689
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: the ABS system. Thoughts on that, do you think that's

690
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: gonna go? Well, what problems do you see kind of

691
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: arising from that? Maybe early on in the league that

692
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: might get settled on as a season progresses.

693
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 11: Yeah, you and age earned a different strike zone at

694
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 11: the end of your career then you had at the

695
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 11: beginning of your career. It's a little devastating for me

696
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 11: to have earned that new strike zone and then have

697
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 11: it taken away at the very end. The strike zone

698
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 11: is a strike zone. It's supposed to be consistent. I

699
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 11: think our umpires today are better than they've ever been,

700
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 11: especially the guys that are coming up. They've worked really

701
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 11: hard to get to that point. I saw one the

702
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 11: other day less than a tenth of an inch. Yeah,

703
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 11: that seems a little bit fine to me to call

704
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 11: out an umpire. I think the most important thing for

705
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 11: me the whole time was somebody sitting on their couch

706
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 11: watching a game and having the screen or having the

707
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 11: box up there, and if they're able to say umpire,

708
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 11: A that's a terrible call. When it's like, look at

709
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 11: ninety five min our pitch that's moving and you're missing

710
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 11: by a tenth of an inch. I kind of want

711
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 11: to give some umpires some grace on that situation. But

712
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 11: when it's literally black or white, filled in or clear,

713
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 11: you know that guy at home shouldn't know whether the

714
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 11: umpire missed that car or not. If they can tell

715
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 11: without the box agregious call, that's what that's really what

716
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 11: we're looking for. It'll be interesting to see the challenge system.

717
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 11: We have as an organization, our plan for the challenge

718
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 11: system in in spring training to kind of give it

719
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 11: a ride. But six seven weeks is tough. I think

720
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 11: we're need a couple months to try to figure out

721
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 11: how that's gonna work.

722
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: Sure, and I do like the fact that you just

723
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: said umpires are about as good as they've ever been

724
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: in this game. They're always trying to get better. I

725
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be twofold. I like hearing that. I

726
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: like you got to give the umpire's credit when they

727
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: do have good games, and you gotta let them know

728
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: that they are. Hey, you might have missed that one,

729
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: or I understand why you missed that one that was closed.

730
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: I'd go either way. I think there is gonna be

731
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: some good adjustment period for them as well. I think

732
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna there is gonna be not a shame factor

733
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: to it or something. But if you keep getting second

734
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: guest or overruled, and you keep finding out that you're

735
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: getting it wrong, I think there comes this in game

736
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: adjustment now where it's like, hey, maybe I need to

737
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: fix my zone. And that's kind of we're all we're

738
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: all just trying to get it right, and it's not

739
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: the easiest thing to do by any means. But at

740
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: the end of the day, as long as long as

741
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: that's the focus of the hitter, catcher and the umpire,

742
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: that we're just trying to get it right, you should

743
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: be able to find some kind of middle ground between

744
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: all three, which is a good point.

745
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 11: I hadn't thought about the in game adjustment for a numpire.

746
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 11: Everyone knows the first couple of innings, you're like, look, man,

747
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 11: I went back and checked. Those are balls, let's go like,

748
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 11: or those are strikes. Come on, let's get it together.

749
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 11: Kind of having that feedback maybe in the first readings

750
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 11: to try to, you know, get correct for the last

751
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 11: the last six is going to be important.

752
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 8: I hadn't thought about that.

753
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: That's that's good now, you guys probably just covered both

754
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: of these in the players meeting that you guys had

755
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: this morning. When you have a important meeting like such

756
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: where I'm sure you covered a big ground of topics,

757
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: especially with stuff that's going on, but you cover these

758
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: new rules. How much do you look at some of

759
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: the younger players and younger pitchers on the staff, if

760
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: they're engaged in the meeting. Do they understand what's going on?

761
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: Do they understand the changes that are being made.

762
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 11: I think it's really intimidating for a younger guy to

763
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 11: participate in those meetings. And I can't blame them. I

764
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 11: you know, I wasn't one to participate in those meetings

765
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 11: at that age. I think for me, it's more asking

766
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 11: these triple A guys what the challenge system looks like,

767
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 11: what that ABS looks like.

768
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: They might know more than you.

769
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 11: They have a lot more, They have a lot more

770
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 11: understanding of what that looks like than me. I have

771
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 11: thrown in our four or five games in rehab games

772
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 11: with that ABS. I don't know what that looks like.

773
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 11: For me, it's like, you guys know what that is

774
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 11: supposed to look like? Like, let's talk about you know

775
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 11: what kind of what kind of pitches. Are you seeing

776
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 11: that maybe cross that they call strikes or that that

777
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 11: we miss and we can kind of try to figure

778
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 11: that out. That's not going to change how I throw pitches,

779
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 11: but just kind of having a general understanding of how

780
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 11: that's maybe gonna work, or the catchers talking to other

781
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 11: catchers of like, hey, this is what I've really succeeded

782
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 11: in my challenges versus you know, stuff that I've missed.

783
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: Thanks fair Paul.

784
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 6: Before we let you go, I just go, I want

785
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 6: to know, how's the golf game? You're in Arizona, a spring.

786
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 6: You know, you throw a hard bullpen today. You know

787
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 6: it's noon there, where's the teeth time? And how's the

788
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 6: golf game?

789
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 11: Well, you know you just had Merril Kelly on he's

790
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 11: having a little side tightness thing. That's my golfing partner.

791
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 11: So the golfing game has been a little limited at

792
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 11: this point. But you know, we're just trying to get

793
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 11: back in there, make sure we can throw in games.

794
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 11: But uh, it's a long season. You got a little

795
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 11: bit of time to play. We got a little bit.

796
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 8: You know, it's nice here.

797
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 11: We probably have to make the most of the next

798
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 11: two months because it won't be so great towards the

799
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 11: middle of the year. But uh, you know, I moved here,

800
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 11: so now it's not really an issue. It's kind of

801
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 11: one of those things where I've gotten plenty of Arizona golf.

802
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 11: But we'll we got some road t toops, We've got

803
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 11: some off days.

804
00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 8: We'll be just fine.

805
00:31:59,800 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 11: You know.

806
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 8: Well, you know, I'll find a place to play. You know,

807
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 8: I don't. I don't have a problem with that.

808
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: That blood will fin out, You'll get used a little

809
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: bit more and be able to play into bows more conditions.

810
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 5: Well, he's got daddy duty too, right for the FAM's there, right.

811
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 8: That's true.

812
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 11: I mean you got two of them at this point,

813
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 11: got to get the second one into into school pre

814
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 11: k and then it's really just gonna just take off,

815
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 11: just drop them off and head right up, uh to

816
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 11: play in the morning, pick them up on the way back.

817
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 8: Mama's free. Like it's totally good.

818
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 5: Yes, that's the good stuff, Paul. We always really enjoy this.

819
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 5: Good to see you, and good luck. The rest of

820
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 5: camp here will catch you during the season, of course.

821
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 5: All right, thanks for me on guys, we've got Ryan

822
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 5: wald Schmitt joining us.

823
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 8: Ryan.

824
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 5: Great to have you on the show. Really appreciate the time,

825
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 5: want to get into your story and some Florida roots.

826
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 5: So you're gonna make the guy sitting next to me

827
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 5: very happy. But before all that, house camp and tell

828
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 5: us about your chances of cutting it with the big

829
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 5: league team here.

830
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, you know, camp's been great so far, really

831
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 9: getting to know the guys, getting a lot more comfortable

832
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 9: around everyone. You know, early on you're you're the new

833
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 9: guy around the clubhouse and get to know everyone. You're

834
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 9: a little nervous at first, but you know, we're a

835
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 9: weekend now and I feel like I'm getting along with

836
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 9: everyone very well, and.

837
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 10: Everything's getting more comfortable.

838
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 9: The games are getting more comfortable, getting more comfortable at

839
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 9: to play in the field, and you know, I try

840
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 9: to think about too much about the chances of making

841
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 9: the team. You know, I kind of just go out

842
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 9: there every day and and play hard and play aggressive

843
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 9: and just see what happens. And that's something out of

844
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 9: my control, so I just try and keep my mind

845
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 9: off of it and just do what it takes to

846
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 9: help the team win and see what happens at the

847
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 9: end of the day.

848
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 6: Ryan as as a young guy in camp, has anyone

849
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 6: been mean to you, Has anyone been just so.

850
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 7: Mean to you and treated you poorly?

851
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,239
Speaker 9: Because we can fly aj in if you need not

852
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 9: yet not yet, I have not had any any altercations

853
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 9: here at camp so far. Everyone's been very friendly and

854
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 9: taking me in with open arms, So I'm very grateful

855
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 9: for that.

856
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 7: Do you know everyone's name? Do you know everybody?

857
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: To do? Eat in the clubhouse?

858
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 6: Guys, the trainers, the travelings, the director of team Travey

859
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 6: can't call him the traveling secretary anymore.

860
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 9: Of course, I make that emphasis of trying to make

861
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 9: sure I know everyone's name, and and in the mornings

862
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 9: when I walk in, I try and greet everyone that

863
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 9: I walk past. It's just something little that that can

864
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 9: make everyone's day, and and it means a lot at

865
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 9: the end of the day if you know someone's name

866
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 9: and you're able to hold a conversation with them daily.

867
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 9: And I think that just means a lot to me

868
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 9: as a person, not even as a player or just

869
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 9: in general being around the facility, just as a person.

870
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 10: I take pride in just.

871
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 9: Kind of getting to know everyone around me and just

872
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 9: being able to have conversations with them.

873
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 6: Okay, do me a favorite turnaround and just wave to

874
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 6: Corbin for me. He's behind you running, so just wave

875
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 6: to say hi Corban.

876
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 7: When he runs. Exactly. But you want to know what

877
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 7: that is.

878
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 6: You want to know why you're so nice and you

879
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 6: say hi to everybody because you were born in Florida.

880
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 7: You were raised in Florida. So that's that's why.

881
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 6: So when Kip gives you crap, when Scott gives you

882
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 6: crop dos, why because those Florida people were from the

883
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 6: south and were nice.

884
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 10: Right, yeah, exactly.

885
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: Yep, that's debatable, highly debatable.

886
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: But we got you got a great minor league season

887
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: under your belt, smashing the baseball. But you you even

888
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 2: mentioned a quote where you started to make the game

889
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: a little bit bigger than it had to be. Did

890
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: you find I mean, as you went up through the ladders,

891
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: you think single A is the next show for you.

892
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: But you get there, the game solows down.

893
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, I can do this, I can be

894
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 2: I can play with these guys double A the same

895
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: way get up to triple A. What are you going

896
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: to take then from that? Going into this year? How

897
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: are you going to approach the game? Are you going

898
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 2: to try to make it the same from game one

899
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: to game one sixty two if it gets there or

900
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: or are you gonna because sometimes it's good. Sometimes they

901
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: have that energy and to ride that kind of the

902
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: adrenaline for each match. But what are you taking from

903
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: last year and what are you using for this year?

904
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I think last year that I'm going

905
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 9: to bring into this year is just kind of just

906
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 9: being where your feet are.

907
00:35:59,600 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: Right.

908
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 9: There's a lot of times where you can look to

909
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 9: the future and say, like the what ifs If I

910
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 9: do this, I can get to this place. I think

911
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 9: that just takes you out of yourself. I think I've

912
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 9: done that a couple of times. I mean, right when

913
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 9: I got to Double A, I struggled for a couple

914
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 9: of weeks early, and I think it was really because

915
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 9: I went out of myself.

916
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 10: I tried to do too much. I tried to prove

917
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 10: that I belonged.

918
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 9: And at the end of the day, you're there for

919
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 9: a reason, and you're at that level because you're supposed

920
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 9: to be there.

921
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 10: And I think I.

922
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 9: Realized that pretty quickly and just kind of tap back

923
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 9: into what I do best and just being myself and

924
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 9: just simplifying the game.

925
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 10: Again.

926
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 9: I think a lot of my strengths come with simplicity.

927
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 9: I think controlling the zone is something that I'm very

928
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 9: good at, and I think that's something that I have

929
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 9: a lot of control over. Swing decisions, something that you control.

930
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 9: It's not the umpire calling balls and strikes. It's something

931
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 9: that you control. And I think a lot of that

932
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 9: comes into play when when the game does get to

933
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 9: be sped up a little bit on you, it's it's

934
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 9: going back to just the simple things and doing what

935
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 9: you can control. And I think a lot of that

936
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 9: comes down to just your effort and your attitude. And

937
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 9: I think I'm gonna bring that into the season as well,

938
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 9: just that positive attitude of just being where my feet

939
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 9: are and doing what it takes to win where I'm

940
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 9: at and just wherever that may be, whether it's in

941
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 9: the big leagues, whether it's Triple AAA, whatever that might be.

942
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 9: Just kind of being where your feet are and just

943
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 9: working to get better each day. And I have a

944
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 9: quote from my college coach that I always bring with

945
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 9: me every day. It's it's everything expires at midnight. So

946
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 9: whether it's a good game, whether it's a bad game,

947
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 9: it is minjion. You get a couple hours after the game.

948
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 9: Game might end at ten o'clock. You have it's from

949
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 9: ten to midnight to reflect on whatever you did that day,

950
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 9: whether you want to celebrate your successes or whether you

951
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 9: want to dwell on some of the failures you might

952
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 9: have had that day or the losses that you took.

953
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 9: But as soon as twelve o'cock hits, it's a new day.

954
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 9: So then you move on and it's it's to start

955
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 9: another day and just get back to work again.

956
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 6: Ryan, hold up, before we go on. The guy sitting

957
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 6: next to you, did you know he went to Kentucky

958
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 6: for one year and then transfer out, so you transferred in.

959
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 6: So that's why you didn't know that quote, because the

960
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 6: coach to Kentucky didn't give him that quote because he

961
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 6: left ye brought and then versus you who actually went

962
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 6: there to play.

963
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: I didn't know that quote because he was like minjio

964
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: on was the bottom assistant and wasn't allowed to talk

965
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: yet No, because.

966
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 6: You aren't too good, was too good to talk to

967
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 6: the third assistance if you were first off.

968
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 3: I red shirted, I read shirt.

969
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 2: It's like clearly wasn't too good, and then I got

970
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: kicked off then made it back on and then got

971
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: kicked off again. But yeah, me and you could even

972
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: if you talked to me, and Minjio never saw eyed

973
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: eye as the nicest way to put it, I guess

974
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: that way. But it is a fantastic quote. And I

975
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: will say, I want to hit back on what you

976
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: said earlier. It's not you're still consumed trying to prove

977
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: yourself that you belong that you forget that you already do,

978
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: or that you forget that you're there for a reason,

979
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: that your organization's behind you. They've moved you up for

980
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: a reason, whether you believe it or not. They think

981
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: you're ready. So I think I really like that you're

982
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: already kind of recognizing that they're like. It's not whether

983
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: i'm if I don't need to prove myself that I

984
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: belong here by getting there.

985
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 3: You've already proven yourself that you belong there.

986
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 10: For sure, all right, So I've got one.

987
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 5: I think you're the perfect person to ask this too,

988
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 5: because you had a banger of a season last year

989
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 5: and you've continued to develop at the plate right and

990
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 5: on the cusp of the big leagues. We often point

991
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 5: to organizations that do a really good job of developing

992
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 5: pitching talent. You know, we've talked to it's a national show, right,

993
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 5: So we've talked about the Rays and the Guardians and

994
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 5: the Brewers and some of these teams that will take

995
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 5: a guy or they'll develop guys and they just become

996
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 5: great pitching talents. I actually think we need to focus

997
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 5: on what Arizona is doing on the hitting side of things,

998
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 5: and would love to get your thoughts on where you

999
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 5: think the secret sauces. They've done a really good job

1000
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 5: of developing prospects and turning them into big leaguers and

1001
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 5: then also bringing guys over and making them even better.

1002
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 5: So and that's why they've had one of the better

1003
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 5: offenses in baseball over the last few years. So what

1004
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 5: do you have for us, Like, what have you personally

1005
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 5: seen from them that's helped you and that's helped the

1006
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 5: organization pump out many players to be big league regulars

1007
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 5: or even stars on the lineup.

1008
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I think they do an amazing job

1009
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 9: on just kind of the communication aspect of it. You know,

1010
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 9: I came in with a good feel of what I

1011
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 9: do at the plate and why I do those things,

1012
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 9: and we have conversations about it. There's never a time

1013
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 9: where the coach is like, I want you to do this,

1014
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 9: and you're going to do this and we're not going

1015
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 9: to talk about it. You're going to figure out how

1016
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 9: to do the way I'm telling you to do this.

1017
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 10: Here. It's a lot of ask questions.

1018
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 9: I think a lot of guys ask questions on why

1019
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 9: we do things, and it really allows you to just

1020
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 9: fully understand what they're trying to get you to do

1021
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 9: and you can grasp the reasoning behind it. And I

1022
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 9: think when you have that, it allows you to really

1023
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 9: understand what your plan is at the plate and what

1024
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 9: you're trying to do and what you're trying to accomplish,

1025
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 9: so your drill work, VP, game swings, whatever it might be.

1026
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 9: And I think that's huge because there's no cookie cutter

1027
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 9: way that they're trying to make us. Each of us,

1028
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 9: every single one of us have different swings, every single

1029
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 9: one of us have different setups, and we talk through

1030
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 9: everything that we're doing, and I think that's huge when

1031
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 9: it comes down to it, because nobody's body's moved the same,

1032
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 9: nobody's strengths are the same as each other. Everyone has

1033
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 9: different weaknesses, everyone has different strengths. Our plans might be

1034
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 9: different at the plate. I think Arizona does a great

1035
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 9: job at recognizing that that we're not all going to

1036
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 9: be going up to the plate with the same approach,

1037
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 9: We're not all going to be swinging at the same pitches.

1038
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 9: But as long as us as players understand what our

1039
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 9: plan is and how to execute that plan, I think

1040
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 9: that really allows each and every one of us to

1041
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 9: do our jobs and allows each and every one of

1042
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 9: us to excel.

1043
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 10: Like to the level that we're trying to reach every day.

1044
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: Hey, last one for you on the big league club?

1045
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 5: Who do you talk to right now? Like, who's a

1046
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 5: go to guy for you? Is there anyone kind of

1047
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 5: offering more time, gracious with their time. You've got some

1048
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 5: pretty veteran names there.

1049
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1050
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 9: You know, obviously Corbyn's not around as much right now

1051
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 9: just because he's getting that rehabit and just trying to

1052
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 9: get ready back for opening day. But you know, At

1053
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 9: and Jordan and even Borsa to all three of us,

1054
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 9: all three of them have been really influential to me

1055
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 9: so far.

1056
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 10: Early in camp. You know, they had time.

1057
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 9: Maybe if it's not a ton of time in the

1058
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 9: big leagues, they're really just show me the ropes and

1059
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 9: just how to just navigate what's going on. And and

1060
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 9: you know, even Jordan too, fresh in the outfield, he's

1061
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 9: asked questions to me, and it's very cool to see

1062
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 9: someone that's in the big leagues and I haven't made

1063
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 9: a debut or anything yet, but he's asking questions to

1064
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 9: me on how he can get better in the outfield.

1065
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 9: And you know, I'm asking Alex questions about how I

1066
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 9: can get better jumps.

1067
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 10: And and what to do on defense stuff like that.

1068
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 9: And you know, those at least for Outfitters, have been

1069
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 9: really good so far for me to talk to. And

1070
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 9: even Gurriel too, he's starting to make his way back

1071
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 9: out there after his ACL surgery and and you know,

1072
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 9: he's just he's a great energy guy to have around,

1073
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 9: and it really allows you to play, relax and be

1074
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 9: loose out there when we're doing our work because you know,

1075
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 9: he's a veteran and he can do what he wants,

1076
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 9: you know, whenever, and he he doesn't have to take

1077
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 9: the time to necessarily talk to me and each me things.

1078
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 9: But he's been really cool out there to have and

1079
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 9: you know, it really just allows me to think again,

1080
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 9: and you know, it's just the game and it's you're

1081
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 9: supposed to have fun with it, and it's really cool

1082
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 9: to see a guy like Guryell got there and just

1083
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 9: kind of have the happy medium of knowing when he

1084
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 9: needs to be locked in and get his work in,

1085
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 9: but then also the time where you can relax and

1086
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 9: kind of talk to each other and have a good

1087
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 9: time out there.

1088
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 7: I love that.

1089
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 6: By the way, the fact that you just said Alec

1090
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 6: Thomas is like a veteran. He was like the little

1091
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 6: shit kid running around the clubhouse, right, I mean, now

1092
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 6: he's like, oh, look at this a veteran. I'm like,

1093
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 6: oh my gosh, how.

1094
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 7: Old were five years in the things now?

1095
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: Right?

1096
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1097
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

1098
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: The other day we actually were joking around.

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Speaker 9: We were out there and Guriel wasn't out there and

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Speaker 9: we were talking and h I think the oldest guy

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Speaker 9: we had in the outfield through like the nine of

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Speaker 9: us was like twenty six years old. So we really

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Speaker 9: had nobody out there that necessarily even considered a veteran.

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Speaker 10: At this point.

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Speaker 9: Everyone's pretty young, so it's a pretty cool, uh core

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Speaker 9: of young guys that we got out there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's young man's game.

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Speaker 8: Ryan.

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Speaker 5: Great to chat with you, appreciate the time, good luck

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Speaker 5: the rest of spring.

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Speaker 10: All right, Yeah, thank you guys so much. I appreciate it.