1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Oh, it is a Tuesday. We are stacked. Justin Herbert, 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: great American hero in overtime the Chargers, I mean, the 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: Eagles even had extra days to prepare. What a night 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: last night for Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert. One hour 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: from now the Herd hierarchy. Will those bums from Philadelphia 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: even make the top ten? I'll try to squeeze Buffalo in. 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: That was great. That signifies how valuable a great head coach, 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: a great quarterback, and an ascending rising coordinator Jesse minter 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Are I mean, think about this. 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: The Chargers are now nine to four. 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: They lost to Bosa both Pro Bowl level tackles on 21 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: their third string running back and last night their quarterbacks 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: off hand surgery, and they beat a stacked Eagles roster 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: all I've heard all year with Philly is well Landon 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: Dickerson is nine hundred percent. You know, Lane Johnson's out. 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: Sorry not Sirianni, I'm done listening to it. Davonte Smith, 26 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: AJ Brown, Saquon Barkley, most of the best offensive line 27 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: in football. The Eagles are zero and three without a 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: starting right tackle. The Chargers are four and three without 29 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: both their tackles, and whenever Justin Herbert plays with a 30 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: broken hand. Last night was all grit and all coaching. 31 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert didn't want to be the Bolts leading rusher, 32 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: but he was pressured on sixty eight percent of his throws. 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: That is the worst pass protection any quarterback in any 34 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: game has faced all season. So I've said this for years. 35 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: If you don't get Justin Herbert, you don't get it. 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: That kid's taken up beating a record setting beating. 37 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: He's under siege. 38 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: Last night he finally got one of his running backs 39 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: back backups everywhere in the offensive line. He's stiff arming 40 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: people in overtime coming off a broken hand, and pff 41 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: I look this morning has him as the sixth highest 42 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: rated quarterback. 43 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: So they're nine and four. 44 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: Not to mention in a division with Andy Reid and 45 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, the raining Super Bowl champs and the number 46 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: one seed Denver. 47 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: And they're nine and four. 48 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was a dick or the kicker. 49 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: It was Tony Jefferson retired a couple of years ago. 50 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: He has four picks. 51 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: This year. 52 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: It was Harball, it was Herbert, it was the special teams, 53 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: it's the kicking, it's Jesse Minter. I mean, to me, 54 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: head coaching quarterback is more than just dia gramming some 55 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: plays and completing some passes. It is about resilience and toughness. 56 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: And this is a very interesting number. The last two years. 57 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: We always talk about coaches, and I think Harball has 58 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: as good as coach as any coach in my life, 59 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: if you count college in pro. I think he's that good. 60 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: This team is thirteen and four the last two seasons. 61 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: After Week eight. That is coaching, That is culture, That 62 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: is toughness, that is resilience. I mean, this team averaged 63 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: three point nine yards of play. This is the best roster, 64 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: the Eagles roster in the league. Herbert's pressured sixty eight 65 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: percent of the throws. They should have been blown out. 66 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: They're on backups all over the offensive line facing one 67 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: of the great defense is Philadelphia in the league, and 68 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: yet they get five turnovers. Pull them away from Philadelphia. 69 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Herbert just broke his hand, just had surgery. 70 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: Here's Jim Harbaugh dushing over Herbert. 71 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 4: And justin Herbert he's a superhero. 72 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 5: He is a competitive maniac. 73 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 4: I mean he was even stiff arming guys, you know, 74 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 4: with a broken hand, and he had surgery a week ago, 75 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: and out here tonight. It's it's it felt like like 76 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: I was in a MOVI Like we were in a 77 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: movie where you know, the quarterback's doing these and it's 78 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 4: like you get to the point where we go, okay, 79 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: this is getting a little unrealistic. 80 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 5: You know. That's what it felt like to me. 81 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: It really is amazing that this team is nine to four, 82 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: still has a chance to win their division. Play the 83 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: Chiefs next. All right, let's talk about a young man. 84 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: I like, but this was officially a bad day at 85 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: the office. Jalen hurts four picks in a fumble and 86 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: a passer rating slightly over thirty one. One thing, let's 87 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: stop arguing about this one thing that has become obvious 88 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: for Jalen Hurts. He is a circumstances quarterback. If the 89 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 1: old line's perfectly healthy, if the offensive coordinator is great, 90 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: if Saquon Barkley is having an amazing nighter season, if 91 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: the defense is number one like last year, he's pretty successful. 92 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's doing it with no ifs. Some quarterbacks are 93 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: hot air balloons. They're dependent on the weather, Justin Herbert. 94 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: And some quarterbacks are fighter pilots. Just give me the coordinates. 95 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: I like Jalen Hurts in tangibles a plus plus. But 96 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles have now lost five straight games. When they 97 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: asked Jalen Hurts to just throw thirty times, just thirty 98 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: last night, he had to throw forty times and became 99 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: the only quarterback to have two turnovers on one play. 100 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: The Eagles have a head coach that is entirely dependent 101 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: on offensive coordinators and a quarterback that's dependent on mostly 102 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: a perfect setting. Last year's Super Bowl Colin last year's 103 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Oh give me a break. They won a 104 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: Super Bowl with Nick Foles. 105 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: This is a. 106 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: General manager, owner, first franchise. I've said this about Nick Siriani, 107 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: the top head coaches, Shanahan. We've seen Matt Lafleur do 108 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: it this year. McVeigh Vrabel. They can fix a broken 109 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: side of the ball. Lafleour's offense was broken a month ago. 110 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Now it's great. We've seen Vrabel do this. The od 111 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: lines banged up. He can fix it in season. I 112 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: don't think Sirianni can. I don't think that's who he is. 113 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm watching that game last night and it hit me 114 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: it's hard to believe the positivity Bunny didn't work. 115 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: It didn't have a bigger impact. 116 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: I thought that thing was a goofy reach, and I 117 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: wonder about his future because Philly is like LSU football. 118 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: They don't win, they don't care, no sacred cows. With 119 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, they've move off super Bowl winning quarterbacks 120 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: and super Bowl winning coaches. 121 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: But I don't want to hear. 122 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: I love Lane Johnson, but you got Saquon and that 123 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: defense and DeVante Smith and AJ Brown and yeah, AJ. 124 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: Dropped a pass. 125 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: And I love so much about Jalen Hurts, but he's 126 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: a circumstances quarterback if everything's lined up. That's not what 127 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: Herbert was last night. Chargers had no business winning that game. 128 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: That whole line against that Philly d Come on, here's 129 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: Sirianni on the ugly night. 130 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: For Jalen Hurts, this game. 131 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 6: Is the ultimate team game. So it's it's never you know, 132 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 6: it's never just on one person. Now, ultimately, he always 133 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 6: has the ball in his hands, and I know he'll 134 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 6: he'll wear a lot of that and own that, and 135 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 6: I got to do a better job of helping them 136 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 6: in those scenarios. Again, it's always it's never just on execution, right, Obviously, 137 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 6: never want to turn the ball over. We've been pretty 138 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 6: good at that and tonight was a little uncharacteristic of ourselves. 139 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: They're probably still going to win their division, but the 140 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: NFC East, arguably it's one of the weaker divisions. If 141 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: you go look at the standings right now in the NFL, 142 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: almost without exception, whoever leads them either has a great 143 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: coach like a Sean Payton, a Mike Rable, or you 144 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: have a great quarterback. There are very few exceptions on 145 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: that summer high profile, you know, like like Philadelphia. Some 146 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: are like the Texans, great coach, great defense. But right now, 147 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: what's great, I mean the personnel is, but I mean 148 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: we all know this, Sirianni is totally coordinator dependent, and 149 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: last night was another example that Jalen is a circumstantial guy. 150 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: If everything's in line, he can win a super Bowl. 151 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: But remember Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. Trend Delver 152 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl, 153 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: Rex Grossman got to a Super Bowl. Stan Humphreys got 154 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl. Fine professional athletes, but sometimes things 155 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: line up with the Eagles. This year just things haven't 156 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: quite perfectly lined up, and they are an absolute mess 157 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: on offense. So what a what a wild wild game 158 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: last night? I kept waiting for the damn to burst. 159 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: J Mac. 160 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: You kept thinking, Okay, Philadelphia has got too many good players. 161 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is going to win this football game, and there 162 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: is something to be had about perseverance and just hanging around. 163 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: I thought, justin Herbert in overtime, he didn't want to run, 164 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: and even Hardball was just calling it just justin, just 165 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: get us first downs, moved the chains. I would say this, 166 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: it's a top five gut check win all season by 167 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: a team. Yeah, I mean it was really there was 168 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. I mean, Philadelphia was a road favorite, 169 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: and for most of the game you kept saying, Okay, 170 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: they can't throw another pick. The Eagles can't keep turning 171 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: it over and they just the Chargers just stayed close, 172 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: hung in and then in overtime. You know, it's funny 173 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: when it went to overtime, it was the first time 174 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: the entire game. I'm like, Oh, the Chargers will win. Really, 175 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: I felt all night. I thought Philadelphia all night. I'm like, 176 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: they can't. He can't keep throwing picks. 177 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 7: Well, you know, he didn't get any help from AJ 178 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 7: Brown on the final drive. Brown had three drops for 179 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 7: the game, dropped the touchdown on the corner of the 180 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 7: end zone. 181 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: That's a tough one for Philly. Collen. 182 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 7: I'm just worried about Justin Herbert. Can he continue to 183 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 7: survive this. 184 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: They got the. 185 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 7: Chiefs this week in probably one of the biggest games 186 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 7: of the season, and he needs to not get sack. 187 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: Seven times on the road. 188 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 7: I'll just say this, I don't think the Chiefs are 189 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 7: dead yet. I don't think the season's over. If they 190 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 7: beat the Chargers, we're going to start hearing Here comes Mahomes, 191 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 7: Here comes Andy Reid. 192 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: Isn't it remarkable though the betting markets, the Chargers are 193 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: like a three and a half point underdog, and you 194 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: watch the Chiefs offense. 195 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: What do they do well, Well, they don't. 196 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 7: Block the guy who got hurt on the first play. 197 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 7: He's out for the season now. 198 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: So it's the market still respects the Chiefs. The market does, 199 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: but you're watching them and you're like, this is what 200 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: a dynasty does. You keep giving it in your mind, 201 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: you keep giving it chance after chance after Chanck, I 202 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: think the Chargers are a better team than Chiefs. 203 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 3: Yes, I agree. 204 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 7: I mean, does the market know that Andy Reid has 205 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 7: turned into Dan Campbell. 206 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: Going for all these four downs? 207 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: Come on, it's crazy, so our Herd hierarchy in one 208 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: hour plus Nick Wright having to come to grips with 209 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: the chief season. 210 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 211 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: in noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 212 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Fox Sports Radio is 213 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: taking over YouTube and you can be a part of it. 214 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: Just go to YouTube and search Fox Sports Radio, hit 215 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 2: that subscribe button and smash that notification bell and catch 216 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: all the videos from your favorite shows. 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Now go the top ten NFL teams 225 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: according to College Number Dad. 226 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: Well, listen, the Bills are flawed, but they have won 227 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: twelve straight home games in the December and January, and 228 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has a career high completion percentage and yards 229 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: for attempt this season. I still think they're asking too 230 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: much of them, which is why they've had twelve giveaways 231 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: in five games. They're not a clean team. They can 232 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: get sloppy. They're bad against the run, although they've been 233 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: a little better in the last couple of weeks. I 234 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: think the reality is they'll go as far as Josh 235 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: Allen can take them. I don't trust them situationally. They 236 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: were fumbling near the goal line this week. I think 237 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: right now, the best quarterback in the world, not the 238 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: most decorated, but the best is Josh Allen. But there's 239 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: too many questions for me. They sneak in at number ten, 240 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: number nine. The Chargers are now five and zero in 241 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: prime time this season. They're a big stage team at 242 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: least in the regular season. Thirteen and four under Jim 243 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: Harbaugh in the second half of seasons. That's best in 244 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. Remarkable with all their injuries. The offensive line's atrocious, 245 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: all beat up. The running game depends on who's healthy, 246 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: but they have a great pass defense, best in the 247 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: league since Week eight. Between the head coach and the 248 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: star coordinator and Herbert, they're in every single game. 249 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 3: I have the Chargers at nine, number eight. 250 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: I can't even figure the Niners out. How in the 251 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: world do they have the number one scoring defense since 252 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: Week eleven? Robert sala I don't like their defensive personnel. 253 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm mid on brock party, but they've got five wins 254 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: of ten plus or more points since Week seven. That's 255 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: tied for the NFL lead. They don't get penalized. They've 256 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: got too easy games coming up, just had the bye 257 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Yes, they're two Christian McCaffrey dependent, but Kittle 258 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: and Jennings and pearsall they're getting healthier. 259 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: I'll put them at eight number seven. 260 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: Texans have the best defense in the league, five game 261 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: winning streak eight of ten. 262 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: Their offense can worry me. I do like CJ. Stroud. 263 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: They have played the fourth hardest schedule in the league, 264 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: so they are battle tested. Number one scoring defense. I'll 265 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: tell you there's a couple of young defensive coaches in 266 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: this league that. 267 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: Are really sharp. 268 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Tomico Ryans and I told you I had somebody inside 269 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: the Niners tell me years ago Demiko Ryans was going 270 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: to be a star as head coach. That Houston defense 271 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: is no fun to play. I've got him at seven, 272 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: number six. I'm gonna give it to the Bears. They 273 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: lead the NFL in turnover differential. They run the football, 274 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: they can win time of possession. People bang on Caleb 275 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: Williams completing fifty eight percent of his throws, but he 276 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: is so electric and dynamic. 277 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: I can live with that. 278 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: I think their biggest issue they give up six point 279 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: one yards of play. That's near the bottom of the NFL. 280 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: That's what worries me. It's not Caleb's lack of accuracy. 281 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: I think he got to live with that because he's 282 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: so dynamic. They've got a shore up their defense on 283 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: the average play number five Seattle. 284 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: Maybe I have. 285 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: Them low, but there's a there's a slew of teams 286 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: above them, and there's reasons why they can be reckless. 287 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: They're a run first team, they're aggressive, sometimes a little 288 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, penalties, youth. I don't think they're a super 289 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: Bowl team yet. I think, like the Packers, who are young, 290 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: it'll take another year. I think Green Bay is ready 291 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: this year. They weren't last year. They have, you know, 292 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: tied for the fewest sacks allowed. Some of that's just 293 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: Darnold's good on his feet. But I have Seattle at five, 294 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: number four, But I think the Broncos rosters a little 295 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: more experienced, and I get offensive coach Sean Payton first 296 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: game though this year they have not trailed. Listen, here's 297 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: what's really impressive. Tied for the most sacks and then 298 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: the fewest allowed. You can't get to their quarterback. They 299 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: always get to yours. That's gonna served them well in 300 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Offensive line. Sean Payton's got at number one 301 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: after a couple of years. 302 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 3: I love their roster. I really like their roster. 303 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: I wish their quarterback wasn't this uneven, but I have 304 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: them a nick ahead of Seattle number three Green Bay. 305 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: I may have them low best third down offense, tied 306 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: for the fewest giveaways. They're a very smart, clean young team. 307 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: I thought last year they were a bit too young. 308 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: I love that Christian Watson is healthy because Jordan Love 309 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: like a Sam Darnold, loves to throw the deep ball 310 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: and throws a brilliant deep ball. I also think the 311 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: Mica trade was brilliant. Not not all was bad for Dallas, 312 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: but it was brilliant because they're gonna lead a lot 313 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: of games late and he's the closer. 314 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 3: I have Green Bay at three. 315 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: Number two. 316 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: Patriots were idle. I have them at two ten to 317 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: zero and Christian Gonzales plays their elite corner ten game 318 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: winning streak. Are they a bit young? Is Drake may ready? Listen? 319 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: They have played the easiest schedule in the NFL. That 320 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: needs to be noted. Houston could be better. Houston's played 321 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: the fourth hardest schedule, so I think they're a little 322 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: harder to judge team. We know the coach is good 323 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: in the quarterback is good, but I have them. 324 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 3: At two number one. 325 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: The Rams boy was Devonte Adams, a steal leads the 326 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: NFL with fourteen touchdowns. Fuku Nikua by the way, averaging 327 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: the most receiving yards per game in NFL history. Ninety 328 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: one tight ends, quarterback, head coach, running back, O line. 329 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: They have no weakness offensively other than Stafford's immobility. The 330 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: defense is young and outstanding. This feels like the most 331 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: complete team. 332 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: In the league. 333 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: And you may have noticed, I do not have Philadelphia in. 334 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I think their coach is coordinator dependent and 335 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: quarterback in Philadelphia is an if quarterback, he's circumstantial. If 336 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: the O line is healthy, if the defense is great, 337 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: if Saquan's having a great year, I have Philadelphia at eleven. 338 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: And with that, Nick Wright joining us on a Tuesday. 339 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: First things first, all right, Eagles not in. I'm not 340 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: judging rosters. I'm judging how are you today. I don't 341 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: love Buffalo, they should have lost, and I don't like 342 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: what I see from Philadelphia. 343 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: Any major complaints. 344 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 5: Well, I agree with you on Philadelphia, I disagree with 345 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 5: you on Buffalo. Let's start with Philly. Yet. You can't 346 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 5: be the quarterback who might be limited but always wins 347 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: and never turns the ball over and then have a 348 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 5: three game losing streak because you keep turning the ball 349 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 5: over like that doesn't work. Other quarterbacks can get away 350 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 5: with some rough moments because their high moments are what 351 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 5: carries you that been Jalen and I am really concerned 352 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 5: about the Eagles, and I've been saying this all year, 353 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 5: when the last half of the year, when there seems 354 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 5: like once again there is some real uneasiness within the 355 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 5: locker room about the offense that for different reasons but 356 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 5: a very similar timeline. This reminds me a lot as 357 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 5: a player and seemingly as relationship with his teammates of 358 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 5: Russell Wilson in Seattle Little they both went to two 359 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 5: Super Bowls. They Russ won the first, lost the second. 360 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 5: Jalen did it in the reverse order. They're both excellent 361 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 5: deep ball throwers and efficient short throwers, struggling the intermediate stuff, 362 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 5: dynamic with their legs when they want to be, yet 363 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 5: didn't seemingly get all the credit for the championship. And 364 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 5: also there seems to be a real disconnect between the player, 365 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 5: the quarterback and the rest of the locker room that 366 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 5: came to a head in Seattle, and I think it's 367 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 5: coming to a head in Philadelphia and that interception last night, Colin, 368 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 5: not that one or this one or the next one, 369 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 5: the other one, the last one. You can't make this 370 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 5: mistake on first in ten and overtime. You just can't. 371 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 5: And so yeah, and I know what his record is, 372 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 5: and it's unbelievable. And Jalen, to his credit, is a 373 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 5: great big game quarterback. Great We've seen him play excellent 374 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 5: in two Super Bowls. But I also know what Sirianni's 375 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 5: record is, and it's alongside John Madden for the best 376 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 5: winning percentage for a coach start of his career. I 377 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 5: don't trust Sirianni to get it right, and I don't 378 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 5: think an inflatable bunny in the locker room fixes it. 379 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 5: And if I sound a little extra harsh, sorry to 380 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 5: keep ranting, it's because misery loves company, Colin. And if 381 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 5: the Chiefs are going down, we're pulling a lot of 382 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 5: teams with us. 383 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 384 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: and noon eastern nin a em Pacific on Fox Sports 385 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 386 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: Well, yesterday we were all concerned at Fox Sports when 387 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: I turned on your show and I saw a stretcher. 388 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: Come out. 389 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: Now, you did have a pack of smoke, so that 390 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: let me know you were still breathing. 391 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 5: But there was a lot of concern here. Explain you 392 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 5: were you were so concerned. Yeah, that's why you checked 393 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 5: in on me. You're so worried. You were laughing making 394 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 5: fun of me. You and j Mack going over what 395 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 5: should have been your freezing cold off season takes and 396 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 5: instead reveling and them. 397 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, I said yesterday. 398 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: Is it a reboot or a subtle re build? This 399 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 1: may not just be a tweak and they can do it, 400 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: by the way, you could see what Mike Vrabel did. 401 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: It's and you have Mahomes and Andy Reid. I got 402 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: a when I watched Seattle in the rams and when 403 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: I watched the Texans, and I see the athleticism and 404 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: the speed and the youth. Are the Chiefs to rebuild 405 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: this point? 406 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 5: Well, no, you're never a rebuild if you have one 407 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 5: of the greatest quarterbacks ever in his prime. But they listen, 408 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 5: this isn't a fluke. Just like last year. I was 409 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 5: adamant that that team was a great team and everyone's like, 410 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 5: but the margin of victory and the close wins Winning 411 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 5: in the NFL is a skill, just like a great 412 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 5: tennis player understands there's like four or five points in 413 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 5: the match that actually matter. I'm going to win those. 414 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 5: The Chiefs last year understood that, and this year they 415 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 5: have been the opposite. At the highest leverage moments of 416 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 5: these games, they've been at their worst. And it started. 417 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 5: I can chapter and verse it just quickly for you. 418 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 5: Con then I'll talk to rebuild. Week one, third and fifteen, 419 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 5: fourth quarter against Justin Herbert. Get off the field and 420 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 5: you can win the game. Chris Jones doesn't keep contained 421 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 5: Week two, about to take the lead against Philadelphia despite 422 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 5: being outplayed. Kelsey lets it go off his hands against 423 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 5: the Jaguars. You're about to put that game away. Mahomes 424 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 5: doesn't see the d Linemen lurking pick six against the 425 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 5: Broncos fourth quarter lead. Bo Nicks in a third and 426 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 5: long you let him pick it up. And then a 427 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 5: comedy of errors on Sunday night, from Andy's decision to 428 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 5: go for it when the Texans Ofphins was dead to 429 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 5: Travis once again mishandling a pass Patrick having some unchar 430 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 5: uncharacteristic mistakes. This team deserves to be six and seven. 431 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 5: There is no denying it. But what I would tell 432 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 5: you is this, and it's the similarities are stunning in 433 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 5: this regard Brady who Mahomes is always compared to. Brady 434 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 5: in year seven played in a super Bowl to win 435 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 5: his fourth Super Bowl and be cemented as the greatest 436 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 5: team ever. They lost. And then over the next three 437 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 5: years Colin the Patriots won zero playoff games and got 438 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 5: blown out in the playoffs, including a loss to Mark 439 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 5: Sanchez at home. Zero playoff wins over three years. Patrick 440 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 5: Mahomes in his seventh year as a starter, played in 441 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl to win his fourth super Bowl and 442 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 5: be the greatest team ever. They lost, and right now 443 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 5: they look like they're going to miss the playoffs. Now, 444 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to go two more years 445 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 5: without a playoff win, but it does EBB and flow. 446 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 5: And so the Chiefs right now, for the first time 447 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 5: in the Mahomes Zerra are not a great team and 448 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 5: they have to reckon with that and figure out what 449 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 5: needs to be done in the offseason too, correct it. 450 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: Listen, I've said this before. It's one thing if you're 451 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: a millionaire and you're a trust fund kid, it's another 452 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: if you grew up in chaos and you're a millionaire. 453 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: They're not all even I said earlier, some quarterbacks are 454 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: hot air balloons. They're weather dependent, Jalen Hurts, summer fighter pilots. 455 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: Just give me the coordinates, all land the plane. Herbert 456 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: has an atrocious soul line. They've been on a third 457 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: string running back. They're in a division with the rating 458 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: super Bowl Dynasty and Sean Payton, the Denver's pass rush elite, 459 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: and here's Herbert nine and four. They shouldn't have won 460 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: the game, broken hand, stiff arming people. Listen, I know 461 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the pelts, but even you last night 462 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: watching Herbert nine and four, weren't you a little impressed 463 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: with him? 464 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: A little? 465 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 5: Well, well, listen, I don't. I'm not anti Justin Herbert, 466 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 5: first of all. Second of all, last night is it's 467 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 5: such an intro. This is here's my issue. 468 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: Now. 469 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 5: I know I'm talking to a guy, and I don't 470 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 5: know if we can put Colin back on the screen. 471 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 5: But who in all of a sudden new age Colin Cowherd. 472 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 5: You said, I know he doesn't have the pelts on 473 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 5: the wall. I don't think Colin Cowhard believes in walls 474 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 5: or pelts or anything. I heard yesterday. I heard you 475 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 5: call Josh Allen the greatest player in the history of 476 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 5: the sport, A guy who's played your friend, a friend 477 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 5: of yours, a personal friend of yours. Tom Brady went 478 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 5: to ten Super Bowls. Joss Elism, You're like johns. Allen's 479 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 5: the greatest player I've ever seen. So I listen. I 480 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 5: know your very new age. It's you know, the factor. 481 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 5: Here is what I find frustrating about some of the 482 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 5: Herbert discourse. All Right, So I think despite a horrible 483 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 5: stat line, he was really impressive yesterday, despite the fact 484 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 5: that half his yards came on a dump off to 485 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 5: Kamani Dal. I thought his toughness, his running the circumstances, 486 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 5: that was impressive. But I feel like I'm allowed to 487 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 5: think that way because I was not also being like, hey, 488 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 5: I know they lost a game they had no business losing, 489 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 5: But did you see how many yards Justin Herbert threw 490 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 5: for and how pretty the throws were. The folks who 491 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 5: for years have been the biggest Justin Herbert defenders that 492 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 5: are like, yeah, wins are in a quarterback stat you 493 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 5: what are you talking about? 494 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: Clutch? 495 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 5: Like just watch him throw. Are gonna now with yesterday? 496 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 5: They'll be like, yeah, I understand he had a passer 497 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 5: rating of forty and threw a bunch of turnovers. But man, 498 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 5: the guy sure knows how to win, doesn't He Like, 499 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 5: you got to pick the lane here, and so that 500 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 5: that's my frustration there. I also, you know what we're 501 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 5: staring at, Colin Herbert versus the Prince in the playoffs again, 502 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 5: We're still We're right down the barrel of that gun, 503 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 5: and I'm excited to see it. 504 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: I said about Shador Sanders is that I understood the 505 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: t bow delusion. He was winning and there was the 506 00:28:54,440 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: Christianity connection with Shaduur. It's almost like the trends seven. 507 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: You can try to explain it to me. I don't 508 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: get it. He's not winning. He seems like a nice 509 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: enough kid. I the conspiratorial feel, the conspiracy theory stuff. 510 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel set a college record with stars. He was 511 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: more ready to play early, but Shadur's more talented. 512 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: That's it? 513 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: Or am I missing something? This this belief they're trying 514 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: to bury Shadure. I don't culturally get it. What I 515 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: got tebow shoulder is much better than Tbou. I don't 516 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: get the animosity towards Stefanski. 517 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: What am I missing? 518 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I listen, I don't I have said 519 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 5: this now for a couple of days. Don't assign to 520 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 5: malice what can be explained to stupidity like the I 521 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 5: don't think it takes a conspiracy to get to where 522 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 5: we've gotten with the Browns handling of the quarterback position. 523 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 5: I just think I think the simpler answer is Kevin 524 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 5: Stefanski my make some really poor decisions and the two 525 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 5: point conversion was a poor decision. Whenever you make a 526 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 5: play call that is so bad and goes so poorly 527 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 5: that people's only explanation is you must be intentionally sabotaging 528 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 5: your team, it means that's probably one you would like back, 529 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 5: and it does. Listen. I don't buy the conspiracy piece 530 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 5: of it. I do think it's I know this will 531 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 5: shock people. I think it's possible that the Browns organizationally 532 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 5: make a lot of poor decisions, not the most buttoned 533 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 5: up don't have the quarterback thing figured out. And I 534 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 5: also think that the game we saw Shador play on Sunday, 535 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 5: I don't think Dylan Gabriel is capable of playing at 536 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 5: that level. Now, Shador will make some mistakes, Gabriel might 537 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 5: not make, but at least there are some big plays, 538 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 5: and so it was wholly lot the only here's my problem, 539 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 5: my biggest problem with Stefanski's two point conversion decision. Yeah, 540 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 5: the only way this silly conspiracy stuff continues after that 541 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 5: game is by that decision. If you simply call a 542 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 5: regular handoff or let shud or throw the way, if 543 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 5: you do literally anything else for at least a week, 544 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 5: the noise around your team dies down because Schor's the starter. 545 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 5: He played well, win or lose. Instead, you do a 546 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 5: wildcat reverse pass that looked like the worst play in 547 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 5: the NFL this season that Max Brosmer wasn't involved in. 548 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: And I don't understand it. So I'm a college football 549 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: die hard. I thought Miami deserved to be an over 550 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I think Notre I said this earlier. You know, 551 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: Notre Dame won't commit put a ring on it. They 552 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: won't ACC's as something to marry him. Three times and 553 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: they're like, we're not quite ready. Well, so the CC 554 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: backed twenty one year member Miami, who was more deserving anyway, 555 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: and said, we got Miami's back, and now now Notre Dame's, like, 556 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, feels like we're on an island out here, 557 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: yet you're independent. Still, you've been in an island of 558 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: your choosing. That's so thin that I think they mostly 559 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: got it right. I was very happy Miami got inn 560 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: over Notre Dame. 561 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you have acknowledged that you're. 562 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: Not a huge college football fan, but I like that 563 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: because you tend to embrace the bigger macro topics. What 564 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: did you make of the playoff announcement? 565 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 5: So I think you're gonna love this, Colin, So I, 566 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 5: first of all, I agree with you. Miami over Notre 567 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 5: Dame was very simple. They had the same record, they 568 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 5: played each other, Miami won. Like you can say that's 569 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 5: caveman stuff, like I don't know, I think the game 570 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 5: should matter, yeah, but I don't actually care about that 571 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 5: piece of it. Because here is my argument, and leave 572 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 5: the bracket up and seev agree with me. I wanted 573 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 5: the playoff expanded from four to twelve for seasons exactly 574 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 5: like this one. There is one team Indiana that in 575 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 5: any system ever was going to get in, and then 576 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 5: four to six teams that all had a legitimate claim 577 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 5: to be in the top four, because without the new 578 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 5: playoff system, what do you do about Georgia, Ohio State Tech, Oregon, Ole, miss, 579 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 5: A and M. They all have one loss, they all 580 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 5: have an argument. So that for me, the entire purpose 581 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 5: of the playoff is to make sure A and M 582 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 5: on up. If you will, A and M, Oregon, Ole, 583 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 5: miss and in the top four teams have a chance 584 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 5: to compete for a national championship. After that, I simply 585 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 5: don't care. And you're lucky you got included. Like everyone 586 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 5: who is not a no doubt inclusion doesn't get to complain. 587 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 5: The playoff was not created to make sure the tenth 588 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 5: best team in the nation can have a chance to 589 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 5: win the national championship. The playoff, for me, was created 590 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 5: to make sure a team that actually might be the 591 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 5: third best team in the country doesn't get left out 592 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 5: because they're fifth ranked Oregon. That's what so I think 593 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 5: they got it right. First of all, I actually might 594 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 5: have considered Notre Dame over Alabama, but forget that. But 595 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 5: everyone after A and M is on a free pass. 596 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 5: You lost twice, you gave the committee a reason to 597 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 5: leave you out. You're lucky. You got in. Everyone from 598 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 5: A and M up is why the playoff was created, 599 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 5: and I'm happy about it. 600 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think it's a good take. 601 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: And I also always had my country club theory is 602 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: that you think the more you expand the country club 603 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: from thirty members to sixty, everybody will be happy. But 604 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: what happens is you weren't allowed in, and then your 605 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: neighbor gets in as the sixtieth person. You're like, I 606 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: make more than him, I'm a nicer guy than him, 607 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: I've lived in the community longer, I'm. 608 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: A better golfer. 609 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: The more you expand the playoff, the surlier the arguments. 610 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: Again, if it was two teams, you'd. 611 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: Be like, well, Indiana, and then you have one argument, 612 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: Ohio sout or Georgia. So I think what happens is 613 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: when we expand playoffs, we think it's going to dim and. 614 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: Lessen the arguments. 615 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: The more you go the country club, the more people go, well, 616 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: my neighbor got in, Well why you need to get in? 617 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 5: It expands the argument. But what I like about it 618 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 5: is it makes the argument less have less gravity because 619 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 5: if it was still four teams, there is a really 620 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 5: like Texas Tech versus Oregon is a really really hard 621 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 5: call and Ole miss in A and M. While I 622 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 5: think they're a cut beneath Tech and Oregon would feel like, 623 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 5: wait a minute, why aren't we included? And so expanding 624 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 5: it the way they have I think is really smart. 625 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 5: I would not expanded any further. And I also do 626 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 5: like the fact that Duke didn't get in just because 627 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 5: they won their conference championship, Like, if we're going to 628 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 5: put a team in that has no shot of winning 629 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 5: the whole thing, having it be a one loss James 630 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 5: Madison as opposed to a five loss Duke, I like 631 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 5: that a lot. 632 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. 633 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: By the way, because of hippolaws, we can't tell you 634 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: what was wrong with Nick right yesterday. But the video 635 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: is so dramatic. Let's show it again. 636 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 5: Broken heart, Colin, that's what's wrong, broken heart? And I'll 637 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 5: tell you one other thing because I might have to 638 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 5: hit you off the air for you know, a bridge loan. 639 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 5: It's also I'm gonna send this video to all my 640 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 5: creditors after this football season because I'm being reminded that 641 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 5: all my preseason futures bets I tied and the Chiefs 642 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 5: making the playoffs to them to get a little extra 643 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 5: juice and now all that's come and do on me, buddy. 644 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 5: I'm I'm in a rough way. I'm in a rough 645 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 5: rough way. 646 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: My friend, Well, Sam Darnold can still win a Super Bowl, 647 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: so I'll be the medic that saves your life. 648 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 3: That's all. 649 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 5: Well, thank god. I appreciate it, buddy, But more than that, 650 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 5: I just need some money. Talk to you later, Colin. 651 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: All right, Nick Wright, First things first, very funny show yesterday. Yeah, 652 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: the you know, you expand the playoffs to me, and 653 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: everybody says, Okay, that'll solve it. No, it just opens 654 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: up more arguments. I think we had an amazing college 655 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: football season. I loved it. I thought the committee mostly 656 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: got it right. And if you want to expand it, 657 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I don't. I think the one 658 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: thing I'll say is everybody kept telling me blowing up 659 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve would ruin college football. Didn't, Nil would 660 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: ruin college football? 661 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 3: Didn't. 662 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: Transfer portal was bad for college football, isn't. They're not perfect. 663 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's the transfer portal feels sometimes moving a 664 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: little fast for my taste. But coaches are moving all 665 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: over the place. They're Lane Kiffin's leave it in the 666 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: middle of the night, so if players leave, they leave 667 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: good stuff. 668 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 3: It's the hurt