WEBVTT - CFB Live (11/17): Tweener Teams 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.240 Welcome to the solid verbal hell. 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:07.280 That for me, I'm a man. 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.119 I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:12.040 be happy. You want to be happy for a day 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:14.480 at the State. Is that woo woof? 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:19.080 And then and Tye. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:21.159 Welcome back to the Solid Rebel boys and girls. My 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.320 name is ty hilden Brandt. You will hear from Dan 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:29.400 Rubinstein momentarily. This is another clip from College Football Thursdays. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.440 It's the show we do live every Thursday, five pm 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:36.320 E's two pm West over on Spotify. This is a 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:40.400 fun one. We we really had fun with this show, 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.920 almost unexpectedly so. We always enjoyed doing the show, but 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.479 this one just felt right. It felt good. I left 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.320 in the first bit where we talked through news and 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:55.200 also our tweener game where we talk about tweener teams. 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:57.640 We had a list that we were going to work off, 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.360 but then just so much activity in the chat, people 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:04.120 suggesting their own teams. We just tore up the script altogether, 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.919 decided to go with what folks were saying in the chat. 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.759 Hopefully you can make it out next Thursday again five 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:14.400 pm E's two pm West. If not, here's an excerpt. Enjoy. 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:20.600 We'll talk to you soon stay solid. Heay what happened? 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.720 So the context that you need to know is that Georgia, 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:28.000 Ohio State, Michigan, and TCU are one through four. Tennessee 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.480 is number five. None of that changed that. None of 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.759 that's any different than it was the last time we spoke. 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.640 What is different though, is that LC slides up a 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.320 spot to six, USC up a spot to seven. Alabama 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:44.880 still lurking hanging around there a number eight, Clemson at 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:49.279 number nine, Utah Penn State also move up significantly because 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:53.880 the Oregon your Oregon Ducks, your Orgon Ducks loss last week. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:58.000 They dropped six spots to numerous. Wolf how do you 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.320 say twelve of it? I know how you say German? 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:01.360 I how you sat in Spanish? 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.360 Eleven is own say yeah today keen sai. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.120 But yeah, you've got the authentic flair to it as well. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:16.280 I like that any I mean, there's no real surprises here. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.080 I think it's just important to lay that out for everyone. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.280 The top five could potentially be due for a shakeup here. 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.960 It will be in a matter of weeks. If not 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.840 this week, it's going to happen next week because Ohio 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:33.240 State and Michigan play Obviously, the Vegas oddsmakers are still 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.880 not taking TCU all that seriously or seriously enough, because 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.639 they're only a three point favorite this week on the 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.960 road at Baylor Tennessee. Seems like it's in prime position 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.760 to move up should somebody in front of them lose. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.120 But you know, there are some teams here that are 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.399 playing some games over the next couple of weeks that 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.880 we're going to have to discuss on this year program. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.520 I believe the conference with the most teams in the 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.400 top twenty five with six is America's common diference the 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.799 Pacific twelve Conference, the Conference of Champions. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:03.480 Is that true? 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:11.880 I believe, so USC, Oregon, UCLA, Washington, Oregon State in Utah. Wow, 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.840 that's six. I'd six on my fingers. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.440 Wow, I didn't realize they had that many in the 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:18.160 top twenty five. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:22.079 Correct, Yeah, Oregon State has Oregon obviously not this week, 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.960 but next week Utah Oregon is ten versus twelve. And 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.560 it should be noted UCF of course jumped to lane 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:31.280 and is now the highest rated G five program. So 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.560 on a collision course controlling their own destiny to get 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.000 to a new Year six game, and Gus Malzan would 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:41.120 be the third straight Knights coach to take UCF to 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:42.080 a New Year six game. 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.760 My favorite storyline about this playoff ranking, this new batch 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.480 of rankings has nothing to do with the top five, 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.400 the top ten, the top twenty five. It's that the 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.560 committee said, in one collective voice, if it we can't 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:58.040 do it anymore. With Kentucky, we just, yeah, we can't 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.560 do it anymore. We wanted them to be up there. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.840 We wanted to give some teams in the SEC another 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:08.600 quality way, but we just we can't. We can't even correct. Yeah, 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.520 has anybody lost? So? Notre Dame is in there. 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.720 At eighteen correct? Two of their three losses are two 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:15.600 unranked teams. 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:16.480 Correct? 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.680 Is there anybody else who has both of them or 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.840 two of their three losses to unranked teams. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.640 I don't know all the tough of that. 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.839 Yeah, it's interesting, Okay, No, nothing crazy there. Our two 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.920 teams Penn State Oregon are are Alma maters at eleven 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.200 and twelve. We have a lot of matchups to discuss, 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.680 we have a game to play. Any other news you 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.719 want to get to as it relates to on field happenings. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.880 I mean it's not on field. Heather Dinich reported on 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.960 a thing that happened at an administrator conference where they 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.360 might consider that there was a proposal that was circulated 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:54.520 among many college football athletic or college athletic directors about 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.479 potentially naming a COO of college football, kind of like 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.840 a tzar of college football. We've long had this discussion. 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.760 Of course, Oliver Luck is the name that everyone has 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:09.120 has proposed, has floated since the beginning of time. Whenever 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:12.520 you mentioned the mere implication of a college footballs are 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:17.279 over Luck. But COO of college football would be so zag. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:19.280 So we'd have an org chart. 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:23.000 Essentially, we'd have some sort of operating official at the top, 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:31.039 with presumably conference heads conference commissioners reporting to the operating officer, 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.080 and then underneath that would be a collection of what 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:40.320 presidents and chancellors, and beneath that athletic directors, and beneath 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.680 all of that tie Michael Mayer would be. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:47.640 In charge of He's holding it. He's holding it very dependable. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.440 I don't know, it's just Michael Maher and Brock Bauers 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.280 holding the whole thing up. Yeah. Is this I think 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:57.919 further supports your theory, but collectively our adopted theory that 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.360 college football is scaffolding built on top of more scaffolding. 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.560 Can I give you my pitch as to how the 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.680 future playoffs should be decided and all big decisions in 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.039 college football in the future of the sports should be decided. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.799 Is it Michael maher arm wrestling brock Bowers. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.320 That would be great, But no, I think all important 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.760 decisions forget athletic directors and former players and media members 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.840 and computers and formulas and all of the things that 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.400 we've tried. I think there is one solution that I 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:32.240 think I believe everybody can get behind. We just toss 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.840 it to gene Sterotor to make a decision. He's officiated 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.440 not one, but two major sports. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:41.600 Yeah, it's true, he's an. 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:46.000 NFL official and college basketball. Like, what better person who 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.600 has weighed big personalities and big decisions with the magnifying glass. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.240 I think we just leave it in the hands of 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.640 Gene Sterrator and back away and whatever he says, be 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.120 it about rules, be it about playoff teams, be it 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:03.040 about conference realignment, beat about nil. Whatever he says goes. Yeah, 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.560 gene Sterotor. Not a lot of people know this. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.000 In line to be the next Supreme Court Justice of 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:08.960 the United States. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:14.520 I trust Gene Sterrator implicitly with every major international geopolitical decision. 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.280 I do great head of hair knows how to go 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.920 to the to the monitors and just review, not afraid 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:21.960 to admit that he was wrong the first time. A 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.880 good demeanor, right, Yeah, I like, Hi, I'm good with Gene. Yeah, 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.040 let us know in the chat. If you're good with Gene, 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.800 we can start a I'm with Gene type of thing 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.040 dot com whatever. 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.800 Subject to Gene's Sterrator being milkshake duct, obviously he is 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:38.920 responsible for anything problematic in his path. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:39.640 We passed. 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:40.800 We do not align with that. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.680 We do not. We have not done the research on 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:43.880 this at all. 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:45.240 Zero due diligence. 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.880 Zero due diligence. That's all I have in new I 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.040 don't I mean, I don't really have anything else in news. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.000 I mean, there was there was odd not to bring 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.360 the mood down here, but some very sad occurrences at 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:00.880 Virginia leading to them canceling the game this weekend between 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.160 Coastal Carolina and them, which is just horrible. I mean, 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.120 facts still emerging there. We send our best out to 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:11.920 the Virginia family. Those effected. Just really tragic stuff. One 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:13.840 of those things that we have to talk about here 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.440 in the college football world that you know, nobody wants 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.000 to talk about in general. But it is one of 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.760 those points of overlap where you know, it's a crime 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.360 if we don't mention what's going on there. So we 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.640 just want to send our best to the Virginia family. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.760 It's it's it's been a horrible week. 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:32.079 Yeah, it was a difficult transition from our silly talk, 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.960 but yeah, this is it's at we We talked about 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:36.280 it a little bit on the show earlier in the 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.479 week and just looms large over the weekend and weekends 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.800 upcoming just because of how devastating it is as a 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:46.280 as a piece of news, as an occurrence. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:47.600 And so, yeah, you mentioned the. 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:52.679 Virginia Coastal Carolina game canceled, obviously the least important part 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:56.280 of all of us, but understandable given the uh, the 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:57.400 emotion and. 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.000 The u the heartbreak that that happened in Charlotte. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:01.960 And look, I'm sorry to bring it up. You know, 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.079 I know everyone else don't apologize. I know everyone's here 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.440 to have fun to talk about it. No, you know, 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.560 everyone's here to have fun to talk about college football. 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:14.600 And it's this goofy sport, but sometimes life, yeah, life sucks, 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:20.200 so well, certainly I have to bring that up as 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.480 an awkward means of transition, all right, yeah, of course, 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.280 please please forgive me, folks. I'm doing my best here 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.440 with this. But we did have a game that we 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:32.079 wanted to get to. As for the windows of games, 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:41.840 so normally I play this, all right, I'm gonna stop 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.800 it right there. So okay, oh oh, normally we play 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.440 that game, we get everybody jacked up for the week 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.240 ahead of games. Yes, the week ahead of games is 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.200 sort of light. All right, I'm gonna be honest with 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.280 you all, it's a little bit light. We've got games 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.920 that we're gonna go through. We will get excited about 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.480 it because we are mutants and degenerates as it relates 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.800 to college and we will talk through them with you 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:06.319 because frankly, that's the only reason you're here too, right, correct, 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.640 We are the hive mind of college football degenerates of 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:13.679 a sort. But before we even get to that, I 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:19.880 was thinking, hey, this might be a really really shoehorned concept. Again, 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.840 forgive me, but I don't care. I just don't. It's 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.560 week twelve. Do you know any do you have any 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.160 twelve year olds in your life, like a niss or 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:27.520 a nephew. 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:33.880 Dan, that's a weird question, Ty, I don't think I 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:40.520 have any relatives. No, I'm trying to think, do I 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.240 have a niece or nephew that's around. I've got like 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:48.520 college ish and high school aged cousins. But no, they don't. 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.720 They don't care. They're over twenty twelve. I have two 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.920 in my life to a wonderful niece, a wonderful nephew 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.679 who are twelve years old. That is what you'd consider 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.240 the tween age group, I believe, if man research, Okay, okay, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:05.040 and so they're not quite teenagers, but they sort of are. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.800 And I'm thinking, okay, well, it's week twelve. The season's 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.360 matured enough Dan to know, at least to some extent 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.760 what teams might be still young enough in the season 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:19.160 to not know for sure where things might end up 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.440 for some of the teams that we're about to discuss. 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.400 But I want to talk to you today about which 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.760 of a select group of teams has officially made the 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:33.000 jump to being one of the big boys up and 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:37.319 your growns up, and which are which are still growing. 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:41.200 A big baby. Oh, I like that. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:45.920 That's good which group and your growns up? That's from 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:49.079 Swingers for those wondering. And then this is from song 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:50.400 is a Big Baby. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:57.160 That's the tennis pro. That's Milosh Yeah Melos, Yeah, he wasnis. 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:01.880 Not good at tennis. Florida State Florida State's seven and three. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.679 Florida State had a bad start to the year. Last 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:09.480 year picked it up. This year has had fits and starts, 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:13.680 but I think generally the kind of theme of the 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.719 season is that Jordan Travis has been really good, that 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.840 Mike Norvell has pulled things together in this I guess 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.200 what year three now that it feels like Florida State 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.839 has the wind at its back, But Florida State, I 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.199 think remains one of those teams that we've really struggled 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.400 with to some extent this season, trying to figure out, Okay, 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.560 are they over like the hump in a sense, is 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.120 this going to go well for Mike Norvel moving forward? 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.440 Is he the guy? Is the program healed to the 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.360 point now where it can start to move forward and 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:47.439 grow and mature, or are they still kind of stuck 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.560 in a sense, are they stuck and unable to mature 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.640 further until something happens. Where are you at with Florida State, Dan. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.600 I think they've come a good distance from where they 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.040 were earlier in the year. I actually I think I 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.080 think the promotion of Alex Atgins offensive coordinator when they 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.880 lost Kenny Dillingham, was pretty savvy as the offensive line 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.880 clearly has taken a nice step forward this year. And 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.800 then you look at their last three weeks. Georgia Tech 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:13.920 is not awful. They're not good, but they're not awful. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.160 They give up sixteen points and they put up forty. 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.520 They demolish Miami on the road giving up three, demolished 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.640 Syracuse on the road giving up three. That is a 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:26.080 I know Syracuse has its flaws, especially upfront, and obviously 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.760 Miami is a mess. But the fact that Florida State 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:34.040 is now a team who can pound messes and realized 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.160 in season, and I don't necessarily think it's too late 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.040 because they were going to get Middle eight aided by Clemson. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.920 Either way, they blew the nc State game that was 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.480 right there, that was the one for the taking. Obviously, 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.480 get a little bit fortunate with the way the LSU 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:51.080 game worked out, but their realization towards the middle of 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.720 the season that why don't we just lean on Trey 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.960 Benson and that's just going to open up everything for 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.880 Jordan Travis and play action stuff and lean on that 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.280 how a rushing attack. Trey bentson obviously coming off of 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.599 a pretty devastating knee injury last year when he was 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:08.079 with Oregon before last season, I think it was actually 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.920 the twenty twenty season, and has come back super impressively. 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.520 I think that's uh, that's the story with Florida State, 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.960 the way that they've evolved into that power rushing team 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.040 that has opened things up and the defense getting stop 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:21.120 after stop after stop. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:22.360 Yeah, I think they're big boys. 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:26.080 I think they stopping stopping your growths up. I'm with 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.480 you on that one. Yeah. I mean look, I was 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.400 all in on Florida State going ten and two until 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.640 they got lost number three. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.360 Which was on the table. By the way, it's not 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.720 crazy to say no like this, this could end up 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.120 being a nine and three team that very much looks 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.280 like a ten and two team. The difference between nine 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.320 and three and ten and two is the same for 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:49.040 Florida State as it is for anybody. Little things pulling 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:53.040 out winnable games and Florida State. I think if you 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.040 go back and have Florida State play that version of 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.560 NC State now, or even that version of Wake now, 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:59.920 I think there's a much better shot they're coming out with. 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.080 You know what, Dan, screw my list. I'm not even 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.120 going off my list. We got people in the chat 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.240 here are who are thrown out great suggestions. I was 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:13.080 going to be controversial and say what about TCU, what 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:17.440 about but Ken, yes, wonderfully in the chat said what 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:22.800 about Baylor? What about Baylor? What about the Baylor Bears? 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.440 Right now? I have no idea what to make Baylor. 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.600 I said it on the preview podcast that this team, 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.920 to me remains a bit of an enigma. As it stands, 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.120 there's six and four. Okay, there's six and four per 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.320 the sp plus, which we know and love are are 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.840 our ranking system put out by the father of modern 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:46.920 college football analytics, Bill Connolly and VSPN dot com SPPLUS 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.280 has him at twenty fifth right now. But if you 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.560 look through the numbers, if you look through the season, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.800 there have been plenty of moments this season where there's 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.200 a lot to like and then suddenly not a lot 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.640 to like. Case in point, last week they lost by 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:05.520 twenty at home against k State, right, horrible performance. Horrible. 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.840 Before that, they won three in a row. They outscored Kansas, 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.200 they outscored Texas Tech on the road, and they beat 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.800 Oklahoma on the road by three. So it's been a 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.120 season that's lumpy, is correct? 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:19.800 Yeah? 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.320 For Baylor. I feel like last season we would have 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.480 said they're all grown up? Where are they at this season? 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.520 I think they're in an awkward phase, So I guess 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.120 that's somewhere in between. They're in what should be an 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.160 awkward phase. They're eighth graders right now, so I don't 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.640 know if that's what thirteen or fourteen years old, so 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:41.280 they are. They've got some acne, the braces are shining 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.760 a little bit too brightly in front of everybody. Maybe 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.880 they got pants on the playground. I guess that would 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.440 be the Kansas State loss. They're in the awkward phase. 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.720 I think they probably peaked this year with the way 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.920 that they beat Iowa State, which scoring thirty one on 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:56.760 this Iowa State defense, and they did it on the 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.520 road in a winning efforts a couple of weeks after 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.720 looking pretty listless on offense against BYU and Provo. That's 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.280 probably the high point. I mean, they scored points as 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.320 they should have against Kansas, they scored points as they 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.280 should have at Texas Tech, which is impressive. And beating 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.399 Oklahoma I'm never going to write that off as something 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.640 you should do. And winning that game in Norman it's 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.120 not nothing. And the way that they got those turnovers 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:22.760 obviously impressive. But week to week they're not ready to 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:27.520 be fully fully growns up. So whatever that means with 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:29.399 the revivalry, I think teams are, you know, sort of 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.080 play above their level usually in these types of emotional 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:36.080 spots and a chance to potentially end TCU's playoff hopes 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:40.160 this week probably gets that electricity flowing in the Baylor roster. 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:42.440 But TCUs a way better. 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:47.280 A big baby, I'm with you, I'm man. This chat 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:51.520 is like reading the matrix. Dan's flowing. Good lord, we 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.119 got so much going on. Thank you, everybody, keep standing 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:55.800 them in here. I'm just gonna go off here. List 0:17:56.000 --> 0:18:01.480 Catherine A normal, A normal, so normal. She's of course 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.760 very mud, She's a wonderful person. She will join. I'm 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.000 sure our chat here in a little bit, our stage, 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.040 in a little bit. What I meant to say is 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:13.720 just a loyal and ardent listener to the Solid Verbal, 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:21.560 of course, to our college football Thursday show. She posits LSU. Oh, okay, LSU, 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.760 and she basically says in the chat here, I think 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.920 LSU's a tweet er. Fight me if you don't agree. 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.040 I'm not going to fight her. I had LSU on 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:31.080 my list here at eight and two, LSU at number six, 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.320 all the way up to six now right, which is wild. 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:40.000 But LSU, I think your crowds up and your crowths 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:44.760 up and your blows up. Okay, I think they have matured. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.560 They have shown an evolution throughout the course of the 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:51.280 season that this is a team that is maturing. Now, look, 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.199 do you remember when you got the thirteen, when you 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:58.800 officially got to being a teenager? Uh yeah, yeah, up 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.359 and down, Lumpy, You were a settle. You weren't fully 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.119 a finished product at that point. 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.480 Now, although there are some some moments where I feel 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:09.760 thirteen again, but yeah. 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.280 You weren't a finished product at thirteen. When you got 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.800 to be a teenager officially a team, you were not 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.600 a finished product. And I think that is important to 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.120 note as we're going through these teams here. You don't 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:25.399 got to be a finished product. Bros. Up. We just 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:27.280 need to know that you're going in the right direction, 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.000 that you're maturing. And it feels to me like LSU 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:35.240 has Harry Perkins, our boy Harry Perky as we call him. 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.760 I kind of did the half nickname there with Harry Perkins, 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.800 but he clearly is a monster on the defensive side 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:43.600 of the ball. The way Jayden Daniels has put this 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:45.840 team on his back, maybe not last week, forget about 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.000 last week, but you know, it just feels like this 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.400 team is building towards something more headed, in the right direction, 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.239 and they've matured in a way that I think is 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.480 it makes them now a full fledge grown up for 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:01.280 the remainder of this season and presumably all the ones 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:02.280 now under Brian Kelly. 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:07.320 Winning is better than losing an LSU has won many 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:11.320 more games than they've lost, and aside from the Tennessee game, 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.360 the manner in which they lost the Florida State game 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.400 is you know, it's well trod territory. But aside from 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:18.600 that Tennessee game, which Tennessee right now looks to be 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.320 in a really nice position to make the playoff, they've 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.959 beaten teams not as a perfect team, not as a 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.040 fully realized team. But you look at where that roster 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.360 was after last season, with the transfers, with the opt 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.399 out whatever I guess the opt outs would have been before. 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.000 But you look at the injuries and the transfers and 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.440 how they essentially started over with a new coach, new quarterback, 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:43.760 new coordinators. You could excuse LSU on a certain level 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:48.359 for losing something winnable because like, look, it's it's your one. 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.000 I know it's LSU. They're going to recruit their balls off. 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.880 Is that's even a phrase. Look, they have a letdown 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:57.240 spot against Arkansas on the road, they win, They have 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:00.520 an opportunity to lose the Alabama game or to at 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.920 least keep it going. And what do they say, Let's 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.199 let's put our foot on the gas and let's just 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:09.919 go for two when the when the time has has struck, 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:10.520 struck and. 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:11.600 Stricken to us, I don't know. 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.120 They come back, They go down big to Ole Miss, 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.800