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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Solid Rebel boys and girls. My

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Speaker 1: name is ty hilden Brandt. You will hear from Dan

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Speaker 1: Rubinstein momentarily. This is another clip from College Football Thursdays.

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Speaker 1: It's the show we do live every Thursday, five pm

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Speaker 1: E's two pm West over on Spotify. This is a

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Speaker 1: fun one. We we really had fun with this show,

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Speaker 1: almost unexpectedly so. We always enjoyed doing the show, but

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Speaker 1: this one just felt right. It felt good. I left

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Speaker 1: in the first bit where we talked through news and

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Speaker 1: also our tweener game where we talk about tweener teams.

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Speaker 1: We had a list that we were going to work off,

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you can make it out next Thursday again five

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon stay solid. Heay what happened?

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Speaker 1: So the context that you need to know is that Georgia,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan, and TCU are one through four. Tennessee

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Speaker 1: is number five. None of that changed that. None of

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Speaker 1: What is different though, is that LC slides up a

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Speaker 1: the Oregon your Oregon Ducks, your Orgon Ducks loss last week.

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Speaker 1: They dropped six spots to numerous. Wolf how do you

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Speaker 1: say twelve of it? I know how you say German?

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Speaker 3: Eleven is own say yeah today keen sai.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you've got the authentic flair to it as well.

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Speaker 1: I like that any I mean, there's no real surprises here.

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Speaker 1: The top five could potentially be due for a shakeup here.

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Speaker 1: It will be in a matter of weeks. If not

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Speaker 1: this week, it's going to happen next week because Ohio

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Speaker 1: not taking TCU all that seriously or seriously enough, because

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Speaker 3: I believe the conference with the most teams in the

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Speaker 3: I believe, so USC, Oregon, UCLA, Washington, Oregon State in Utah. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Is it Michael maher arm wrestling brock Bowers.

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Speaker 3: it to gene Sterotor to make a decision. He's officiated

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Speaker 3: I trust Gene Sterrator implicitly with every major international geopolitical decision.

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Speaker 1: Not good at tennis. Florida State Florida State's seven and three.

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Speaker 1: A big baby, I'm with you, I'm man. This chat

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Speaker 3: teeth of that Beaver secondary. Hey beb you know Beaver's

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Speaker 3: have tea, you know the bucketeet. You know what I'm

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Speaker 3: saying time I do. Oregon State doesn't have a passing

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Speaker 3: on offense with Jonathan Smith, and so as for what

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Speaker 3: Oregon State's ceiling is with this roster against these teams,

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Speaker 3: they are absolutely grown up in the top twenty five.

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Speaker 2: As if what number twenty three is that?

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Speaker 1: What I said?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, with winnable games to finish out their season,

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Speaker 3: and I say games plural. I know they're they're Arizona

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Speaker 3: Oregon's going to look like at quarterback in a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks playing for the Platypus Cup Thanksgiving weekend, so

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Speaker 3: I say, absolutely, grown up. Yeah, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: The defense to me has been better than expected, and.

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Speaker 1: I feel well, I feel like that was the thing

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Speaker 1: that was the proverbial hump, that was the point of

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Speaker 1: no return. If they can mature pass wherever, their defense

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Speaker 1: was what we thought it would be. I remember we

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Speaker 1: a terrible defense. You know, you don't want to talk

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Speaker 1: about this defense around the wives and children, right like

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Speaker 1: its scathed, could be on that level bad. It really

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Speaker 1: hasn't been been all right, you know, and it's not

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Speaker 1: like shut down quality defense. But it's respectable.

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Speaker 3: No, it's respectful because of their pass defense, because because

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Speaker 3: you can still push them around up front. But I'm

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Speaker 3: looking at some of the advanced numbers that the number

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Speaker 3: nine team nationally in terms of preventing explosive plays. They

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Speaker 3: have a full on decent pass defense, and that's doing

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Speaker 3: large part of the secondary. But they're good in the

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Speaker 3: force three and outs, which is impressive. They just don't

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Speaker 3: after the quarter. But all things considered, yes, this is

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Speaker 3: this is a tweeter who's pulled into a high school

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Andrew with a really good point here in the

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Speaker 1: chat saying that Oregon State should have beaten Washington on

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Speaker 1: with a win. Yeah, totally, which I think is fair.

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Speaker 1: And you know some of the questions that came into

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Speaker 1: shameless plug. We had some questions this week about coach

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Speaker 1: of the year or coaches that coaches that in particular

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Speaker 1: the Year. You can make that case for Klin to

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Speaker 1: bor at Washington. Definitely. I think he made that case.

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Speaker 1: So Washington's a good team. Washington is an interesting team.

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Speaker 2: They are.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think about LSU at the same time,

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Speaker 3: It's year one bringing in a transfer quarterback in the

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Speaker 3: same way that LSU did wearing purple. So there's you know,

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Speaker 3: some overlap there. But the way that LSU was able

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Speaker 3: Arrival in Alabama not unlike the way Washington went on

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Speaker 3: the road. LSU was at home and Washington for the

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Speaker 3: most part. Yes, there's an embarrassing loss in there to ASU.

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Speaker 3: They should not have lost that game, but they did.

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Speaker 3: The defense is not matching what the offensive output is.

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Speaker 3: But they won four straight since winning that game, and

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Speaker 3: they can finish winning two including the Apple Cup Washington.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're fully realized because of that

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Speaker 3: ASU loss, but all the same, they are growing up

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Speaker 3: before our eyes.

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Speaker 2: How about that