1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous Lala Kent. We're back with the Give Them 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Lalla Podcast bonus episode. I have Teresa Judaice and we 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: are going to deep dive into the questions that I 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: asked you guys on Give Them La La pod on 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: ig Hi babe. 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Hi honey, welcome back, Thank you. 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 3: All right. 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: The first question, where do you stand with Tiffany? After 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: House of Villains? 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 3: We made up. 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: She said sorry to me, she said sorry on the show, 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: and then you know, we were fine. 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: I mean I still was like a little. 14 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: Like, you know, I was like, my poor honey always 15 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: has to get like blamed, you know, yeah, because you 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: know what, you know what Louis told me. He's like, babe, 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: I'm getting DMS. They're like, I can't believe you cheated 18 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: on Teresa. 19 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 3: I'm like, are you freaking kidding me? 20 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: Like, poor guy. It's like, let me just put it 21 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: out there. If he was cheating on me, he would 22 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: not be here. He's not you know, yeah. 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: No I don't see I don't see that happening. 24 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: No, it's sad. 25 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: But just because she said it, now, my poor husband's 26 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: getting DMS that he cheated on me, and it's like, 27 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: you know, what. 28 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: That's the worst thing is there's so many times where 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, even if someone says it, let's just 30 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: say it's something huge, right, and it's like, okay, well hello, 31 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: defamation of character. It's like it doesn't matter once it's 32 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: out there. 33 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: Wait, exactly, it's out there exactly. So that's what I 34 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: said to her, Like, you shouldn't have said that, but whatever. 35 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: I guess she wanted. 36 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: You know, she wanted to try to get a moment 37 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: with Teresa Judice, like everyone tries to do that. 38 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: And I wasn't going to give it to her. 39 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: You make everybody relevant, You weren't going to give it 40 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: to her. What was the truth behind the flowers that 41 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: were suent? 42 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Oh, he just said he missed me, like la la, 43 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: he missed me like we were I mean that was 44 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: like last year, so we were only married over a year. 45 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: And like he loves like we love being with each other, 46 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: and so he sent me he's your best friend. 47 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: He really is. 48 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: No, like we I actually love being with my husband, 49 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: like we yeah, we have the best time. And I 50 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: have a tattoo, so rare for people, Well you have 51 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: a tattoo of tattoo on the side that says Sampan 52 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: and Zami. That means always together. It's on my parents mausoleum. 53 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: That means because my parents were always together, Sampanan Zami. 54 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: And then right underneath it, I have three three three. 55 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: When my dad was passing, I went to talk to 56 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: a medium and my mom was giving me signs of threes. 57 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: So I knew my dad was going to pass away 58 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: with a three in it, and he did. He passed 59 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: away April third. My mom passed away March third. I 60 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: met Louis three months after my dad passed. My dad 61 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: was with me three years after my mom passed. My 62 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: parents got married in three months. Everything is threes. That's 63 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: your number. 64 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I have a. 65 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: Tattoo three three three, And then Louis sent me three 66 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three roses and he said, hey, missed me. 67 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's damn two. 68 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: People had to carry two like Safari and I think 69 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: Jesse had to carry it inside. 70 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: It was always huge. 71 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm not going to accept any man 72 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: who doesn't send me that number of persons. 73 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: That right when, like I didn't know it was going 74 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: to make some people in the house mad or like you. 75 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: Know, yeah, you found you found. You're in your love bubble. 76 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: People try to burst it, so I won't try to 77 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: burst it. I'm very happy for you you. 78 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: So that's why he just sent me flash because he 79 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: missed me. And he also got me a Chanel bag 80 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: and sent that also, But I don't that was another time. 81 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to show that on there. 82 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: And I didn't even show Tiffany. 83 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, wonder these holes are even. 84 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: I didn't even show Tiffany that because I was like, 85 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna show it to her because like 86 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: people are gonna think that I'm like trying to brag 87 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: or anything. 88 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: But I just showed Larsa. 89 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: You know, Larsa will appreciate it. Do you have any 90 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: advice for being a girl mom? This woman's struggling being 91 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: a girl mom. I would like this advice. 92 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: You know what. 93 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: I know, it's hard, Like I only know, like to me, 94 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: that's all I know, because I'm a girl mom, and 95 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: to me, I feel like I know, everyone always tells 96 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: me like being a boy mom is so much easier. 97 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: I know because the girls, you know the time of 98 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: the month, you know, and they get bitchy and moody 99 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: and I don't know. I always deal with a smile 100 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: on my face. Like with my daughters, like I know 101 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: they know how much I love them and like adore them, 102 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: and like I don't know, like it's like when you're 103 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: a mom, like just be happy, like yeah, like you know, 104 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: don't be bitchy to your daughters or if they are, 105 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: you know, just say okay, you know what if or 106 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: just try to ask them, like what's wrong or something, 107 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: because you know what, nowadays, high school and even middle school, 108 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 2: it's hard, like you have these brutals, Like you have 109 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: these other kids that are so judgmental and like they 110 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: say the nastiest thing just because you know, if you're 111 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: if you're too pretty, or maybe if you're not. And 112 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: it's like it's like so sad to me that I 113 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: see what goes on in high school, you know, high school, 114 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: middle school that you know, sometimes we don't even know 115 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: like what our kids are going thro, so like try 116 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: to make the door open that if they are struggling 117 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: with something, that they could speak to you and they 118 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: could tell you about it. 119 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: You know, I agree, creating the safe space. My my 120 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: biggest thing is you know, with with my girls, the 121 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: world is going to toughen them up. I don't need 122 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: to toughen them up. The world is going to do 123 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: that for me and creating that safe and I will say, yeah, 124 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: and it is very unfortunate. Then the social media aspect 125 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: comes in and it's it absolutely terrifies me. My thing 126 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: with with Ocean. She's three and a half, she'll be 127 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: four in March. But I'm like, she she gets moody already, 128 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can handle the moods. What I 129 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: can't deal with is when she kind of takes on 130 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: a little bit of boy energy and wants to like 131 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: kick my walls or throw shit in the house. That's 132 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: when I'm like, oh my god, this is hard. 133 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: I don't know that. 134 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 2: You have to give her time out. Give her time 135 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: out and like. 136 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: Maybe Teresa, you would die a mouse. I tell her, 137 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, kid, I will check you the next 138 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: time you do this. And she tells me, I'm gonna 139 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: check you the next time you talk to me that way. 140 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna bat it with myself. 141 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: I cannot do that. 142 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: I mean, Milanya was she was my my third one, 143 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: was the one that used to test to me. Yeah, 144 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: she would run away from me in stores and stuff. 145 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, like that. 146 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: It's like you do they always say, you have one, 147 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: you have. 148 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: One that like one's gonna listen to the other ones not. 149 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: You just gotta have a lot of patience, unfortunately, a 150 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: lot of patience Milania. 151 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: Milania has such a soft spot. What a vibe, calling 152 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: her dad a troll? 153 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: I know, Oh my god, Lala, do you remember all 154 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: that I couldn't even when I was filming, and the 155 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: things that used to come out of her mouth. I'm like, 156 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: what is she saying? 157 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, like yeah. 158 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: But by the way, ten out of ten excellent parenting, 159 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: excellent entertainment. I mean, she's got a mind, she's had it, 160 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: and I'm sure she's still this way, a mind of 161 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: her own, a mouth that she's not afraid to use. 162 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: It's what we try to instill in our girls, and 163 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: Milania is just freaking born with it. It's like, what 164 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: more could you ask for. I may not like that 165 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: she's saying these things, but in the real world this 166 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: will come in hand again. 167 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: No, that's definitely Milania. She's doing that stand out. Yeah, 168 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: it's crazy. The current Gia are more like, and Gabrielle 169 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: and Augianna are more like they're the Gabrielle and Adren 170 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: are the quieter ones, and then Gia and Mala more outspoken. 171 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I love that though an equal balance. Someone wants 172 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: to know, can you please clear up how you say 173 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: your last name? Is it Judae or Judic? 174 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: I mean both? 175 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: Judj is more Italian Judice Okay, American way, it's just easy, 176 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: do you care? I do care either, or we say Judaice. 177 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: That's what Joe used to always say, and that's what 178 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: I said too. That's it's his last name. 179 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, so legally, have you taken on Louise's name? 180 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: No, Gluisa, babe, keep your name. He's like, everybody knows 181 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: just Teresa Judae. 182 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's probably easier to have the same last 183 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: name as your kid. 184 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 185 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: I mean he's like, you know, I thought that was 186 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: sweet of him too to say that. So I was like, okay, 187 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: you know, I was fine with that, you know. 188 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, because some men are funny about it and I'm like, 189 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: it's just a fucking. 190 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: A yeah no, yeah, And he was like he's not 191 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: macho like that. 192 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: He's like, maybe you're everybody knows just Teresa Judie and 193 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: just stay like that. And I'm like, Okay, a confident man. 194 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah no, I mean I love a confident man. Yeah 195 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't ever want Well, I've already changed money. 196 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: I really can't go through it again. Biggest reason for 197 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: thankfulness and then your biggest regret, like when you look 198 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: at your life, what do you look at and you go, 199 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm the most thankful for this thing? And then do 200 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: you have any regrets in your seventeen years of being 201 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: on our TV? 202 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 2: All right, I'm I'm really grateful for my beautiful four daughters. 203 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: Like I'm so proud of them. They make me proud 204 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: every day. And I always tell him, just please always 205 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: love each other, you know. All I'm alive. You guys 206 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: better always love each other and like and you know, 207 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: and I see, like I'm just very proud of them. 208 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: So my four daughters. And what I regret in life 209 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: I wish I would have never signed that paper that 210 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: Joe told me to sign. 211 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how has that? Like, I'm sure now you've 212 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: got to stack of lawyers, Like I'm sure they're combing 213 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: through every single document that comes across your desk. 214 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I have that Jim Leonard that you 215 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: know that he was on the show, like he's he's 216 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: always has my back, and then everyone sees that he 217 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: has my back, and I think people get jealous that 218 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: he has my back so much, but he does look 219 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: out for me, and that's his job, you know. 220 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Was he the one? 221 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: Uh? 222 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: How long has he been with you? Because, by the way, 223 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: his vibe is fucking awesome? 224 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: Thank you? I mean, guess how I found him? 225 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: Like, and I didn't even want him when I was yeah, 226 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: because listen he was he was Kathy and Melissa's lawyer. 227 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 2: Oh yes, And then I was I was going, I 228 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: want to jail, and I was going to do a 229 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: twenty two fifty five. That's like if you go in 230 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: front of the judge again and ask to like resentence you, 231 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 2: it's called a twenty two fifty five. So at the time, 232 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: Joe had this friend that he represented it that Jim represented, 233 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: and they're like, you know you should use this attorney. 234 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 2: I'm using him. So I met him and I gave 235 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: him an attitude. I'm like, I don't. I'm like, Joe, 236 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: why are you bringing him here? I don't want to 237 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: use him. He's Melissa's and Kathy's attorney. I want nothing 238 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: to do with him, so I gave like and I 239 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: don't know, we just clicked after that and I really 240 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: didn't want to use him, and he tried to help me, 241 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: but we couldn't do it. Twenty two to fifty five. 242 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: But anyway, and Jim was the one that brought me 243 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: to jail. And he couldn't believe that, Like, I didn't 244 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: even cry. He's like, I've never seen anybody like you. 245 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, I'm like and I just 246 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: said goodbye to him. I'm like, God, you know, I 247 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: got this to just tell my family I'm going to 248 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: be fine. And that was it, and like yeah, yeah, 249 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: And ever since then he's been by my side. He's 250 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: pretty amazing. Yeah, he seems amazing. Did you have nights 251 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: where you would sob in jail? 252 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: No? 253 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: No, you kept it together. 254 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 3: I would cry just look. 255 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: I missed my kids, like to myself, I just and 256 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: then it's just like and then when I walk the track, 257 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: I would be like, God, really. 258 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: Why did I have to be here? Like seriously? 259 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: I used to's like I would ask him questions like that, 260 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: like what kind of I know you're trying to show 261 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: me something like what are you trying to show me? 262 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: And I'm teaching. 263 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: You to read? 264 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, bitch, I wrote my book. 265 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: I wrote my book, Turning the Tables while I was 266 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: in there, and it was and I came out. I 267 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: was a New York Times bestseller. But I was like, Okay, 268 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: I didn't need, you know, all this time to do that. 269 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: But I feel like I could have written this not 270 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: in jail. 271 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: I guess. 272 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: And then I was like, are you trying to give 273 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: me a break? I get it, I have four kids. 274 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: Maybe he's trying to give me a break, you know. 275 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, little I'm like, exactly, 276 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: I didn't need this kind of break. But then I 277 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: finally got my answer. I was like, I guess because 278 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: I probably would have never left Joe. 279 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: And really Joe was. 280 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: Not my guy, Like because I see the love that 281 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: I have with Louis and the love that I have 282 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: with Joe, it's so different. I always stay to my kids. 283 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, I was supposed to have my kids with Joe, 284 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: me me beautiful daughters. 285 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: But my guy's Louie. 286 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: Like, so I think we kind of got ripped apart 287 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: because he got deported and and like I tried, I 288 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: went to Italy to see him. 289 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: That happened on the There was a show. 290 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: I know, and it was it was that's so crazy 291 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: because I'm remembering this, and when you left, you said 292 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: you didn't feel anything that you used to feel. 293 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like when I saw him, as soon as I 294 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: saw him, like you know, if you see someone and 295 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: you haven't seen him in three years and eight months, 296 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: because he stayed in ice for eight months more trying 297 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: to fight it. Okay, he finally gave up, so he 298 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 2: had a three year sentence. Then he stayed eight months longer. 299 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: So I saw him after three years and eight months. 300 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: And I didn't even go see him that much there 301 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: because I just didn't like visiting that place. 302 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: You know. My kids went more with. 303 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: His mom and his sister and anybody that would go, 304 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: I would send my kids with them. I just didn't 305 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: like going there. I just hated it because I just 306 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: got out of there. I didn't want to go there. 307 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: I didn't see him that much, and I used to 308 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: tell him, don't come see me because I didn't didn't 309 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: like that. I didn't like being in that room, like 310 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: I just i'd rather talk to people on the phone, 311 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: you know, totally. But he came every single weekend, you know, 312 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: with my kids, and he cried every single weekend he 313 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: came to see me, you know, because he you know, 314 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: I guess he you know, obviously felt bad and he 315 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: did try to take responsibility, but they didn't. They weren't 316 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: having that, you know. Of course, they wanted to make 317 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: an example out of me, right of course, but that 318 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: was it. And that's what he kept saying. He's like, 319 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: they want you more than they want me, and he's like, 320 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: you didn't even do anything, and I was like, oh, 321 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: like but anyway, I think I finally got my answer. 322 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't never, I would have probably not left, 323 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: you know, so we kind of got ripped apart. So 324 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: I think that's why I had to go through, you know, Unfortunately, 325 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 2: sometimes you don't understand why we. 326 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: Have to go through things in life. 327 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: But I had to go through that in order, yeah, 328 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: to find like the person that I feel like that 329 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: I really am supposed to be with, which is you know, Lowie. 330 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: Like I feel like I thought he was called my soulmate. 331 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: I talked to this other psychic. She's like, he's your 332 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: twin flame, and I was like, oh, that makes sense, 333 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: you know, because she said you have to go through 334 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: a lot of souls to find your twin flate. Yes, 335 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: so I feel like, you know, and we're so much alike, 336 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: like we like the same things. Like me and Joe 337 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,239 Speaker 2: didn't like the same things. We were like opposites. 338 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: It's like, so crazy, you're such a lover and juicy Joe. 339 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: You know, I only know what I saw on TV. 340 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: But I'm happy that you found someone who babies you 341 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: because you have to take on such a and I 342 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: know that this is antiquated, but you have to take 343 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: on an alpha, more masculine in role because no matter 344 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: how hard we try to fight to be equal, right, 345 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: it's it's usually looked at like the man does this 346 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: and the woman does this, except when we're in roles 347 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: like the two of us, Teresa. You know, we really 348 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: have to step into alpha energy and sometimes you just 349 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: want to be done. And I'm so happy that you 350 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: can now. You know, when it's time to come home 351 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: and cameras are down, you're not in the forefront of anything. 352 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: Be with a man who babies you and makes you 353 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: find the femininity. 354 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what nobody ever said it that way. 355 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: You're right, because then that's what Louis does to me, 356 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: Like he gives me a lot of attention, and I 357 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: like that, Like I like attention, Like Joan never told 358 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: me I was pretty. I mean, you know, he like 359 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: I used to like get dressed up for him, like 360 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: do you like what? And he like yeah, yeah, yeah, 361 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: like you know, like just like he was not he 362 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: didn't know how to show love, you know. And it's like, 363 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: you know, maybe some girls don't need that, but I 364 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: like that. I like a lot of attention. And Louis 365 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: definitely gives me a lot of attention and that's what 366 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: I like. And I give it tim Bright back, so 367 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: you know, of course, and I remember what Joe was 368 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: only one sided, Like I would always like give him 369 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: more attention, and I'm sure he loved that, you know, 370 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: and he wouldn't give it to me back, and so 371 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: I was missing that part, you know. I mean he 372 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: was a good husband, did you think, like you know 373 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: he was He didn't cheat me bad or anything. Like 374 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: a few times he said stupid things on the show 375 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: that I couldn't even believe it that I was just like, 376 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: you don't even talk like that to me. Well, the 377 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: like when the like he never said the things that 378 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: he said on the show, believe or not, like when 379 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: drinking he called he called me see you next Tuesday, 380 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: and I was shocked. 381 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,239 Speaker 1: I was shocked on the show in the Lala. 382 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: And he was drinking so much and he's never you understand, 383 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: Andy Cohen, I said to him, you guys edit that in. 384 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: I was fighting with that. I was like, there's no 385 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: way Joe said that. I'm like, cause you know you 386 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: if you guys call each other names, meaning like you 387 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: and your spouse, you know what name he calls you like, 388 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: He's never said that word, like see you next to 389 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: He's never said that word. So I was like, there's 390 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: no way he said that because that's not a word 391 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: that we use with each other. 392 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: You know, You're like, this is some ai sh I 393 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: was like, and they're. 394 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: Like, Teresa, I'm telling you he said it. And then 395 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: when I saw it, my mouth dropped and like he 396 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: was talking to someone obviously, like I don't know. I 397 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: even asked him till today, I'm like, were you talking 398 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: to a girl? Just freaking ad minute. Now we're not 399 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 2: even together, we're divorced, and he's like, now he's still 400 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: denies until today. 401 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: What do you think do you think he's done? 402 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it was a girl. Yeah, 403 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: I think it was. But he says now, he's like, now, 404 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: he's like, it was my worker. But I'm like, why 405 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: would you say that? 406 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: You know? But whatever do. 407 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: You do you think that he was unfaithful to you? 408 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: Now? 409 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 2: Well, I did find a phone that he was calling 410 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: someone like, which he told me I found the phone. 411 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 2: He said, well, he's like, I'm talking to her because 412 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: you know, he's like, it was his friend. But then me, 413 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: while I think something was going on, and like I wasn't. 414 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: I guess I believed him because I asked the girl 415 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: at the time too, and she denied it. 416 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: So I don't know. I mean, this is the thing. 417 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: If I was banging the guy, I would say, I'm 418 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: banging him. 419 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 3: Yes I am. He's cheating on you. I'm banging. 420 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: But like, there was these two girls that I thought 421 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: he was doing something with, and I asked them both 422 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: and they both denied it. 423 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: Okay, but you're intimidating these women probably have seen. 424 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 3: Doing it. 425 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: I would say, yes, bitch, I'm doing it. Yes, I'm 426 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: with your heart because I'm with him, Like it's like. 427 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: Because you're coming from a place of being Teresa Judas, 428 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: these women aren't Teresa Judas. There they could potentially be 429 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: on the other side of Teresa. I don't know that. 430 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: I mean, it wouldn't be the other side. 431 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: I would be like you could have them, bye, you 432 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: could have them, like I would think I wouldn't, Yes, exactly, 433 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have did anything to them. I just wanted 434 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: to know the truth. I haven't said like I just 435 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: you know, and they both denied it. So it's like 436 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: when you have kids, unless you have the proof, it's like, 437 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 2: what was I going to tell my kids? Like, oh, 438 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: I thought something was happening, but it wasn't. So it's 439 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: like I wanted I needed proof, you know, in order 440 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: to walk away, and I didn't have it. 441 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 3: You know. 442 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: It's it always comes back to the proof. Yeah, they 443 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: need evidence, well because then because then. 444 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: It's easier to walk away when you don't have the 445 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: proof and someone else is telling you or you or 446 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 2: you think it's true, and then you find and then 447 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: you ask and then they say no, it's not true. 448 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: Then it's like how do you go by that? 449 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: You know, It's like then your kids are going to 450 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: question you, So what happened, mammy? Why'd you guys get divorced? 451 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: It's like you got to I don't know. I always 452 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: thought about that. It's like I always wanted to have 453 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: the proof in order, you know, if I was going 454 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 2: to walk away otherwise then your kids could blame you. 455 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 2: Oh you broke up, you know, it's all your fault, mommy, 456 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: or you know, I don't know. 457 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 3: I always thought about that too, you know. 458 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: That's what I would say. They'd say, do you have proof? 459 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: I would have said, only my gut, I know, no, 460 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: But did your gut tell you that something was off 461 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: with him? Yeah? 462 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: I did feel something. I did, like idea, like that's 463 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: why I questioned those two girls, you know, and like 464 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: I felt something, but they denied it and there was 465 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 2: nothing I could do about it, you know. And then 466 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: I was just and I had little kids at the time. 467 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, I mean, I guess if 468 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: I mean whatever. Listen, you can't go back in time, 469 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: you know, no. 470 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: You can't. And by the way, Teresa, one wrong, not wrong, 471 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: one different move a part of your entire story, one 472 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: wrong move or different, we'll say different, your whole life 473 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: would be different. You would never be with Louis. You 474 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: wouldn't experience the things you're experiencing, like and I truly 475 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: believe that. And when you walk through life and it 476 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, and I questioned. I was questioning God 477 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: last week, being like, dude, you ain't real all right, 478 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: Like you're pissing me off? What the fuck is this? 479 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: And then I lay in my bed and I'm like, God, 480 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 481 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been going I went back for questioning. I 482 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: went back to church. So go back to church, try 483 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 2: to you know. I think I think he does help, 484 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, because I was mad. I was mad for 485 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: a while too, so and now I made up with him. 486 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: But like you're saying, walking around the track asking him 487 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: like what is this? What are you trying to teach me? 488 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: And it's like you said, there will always come a 489 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: time that it does make sense. 490 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah it does. 491 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: I mean that's the only thing I only one thing 492 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 2: I regret, which I tell my kids too. 493 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 3: It's like I feel like the scar. 494 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: Remember that letter, Scarlet, the scarlet letter, the scarlet. People 495 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: judge me just because I went to jail, and it's 496 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: just like you don't know, they don't know the truth, 497 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: like I didn't I know if I know, I didn't 498 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: commit a crime, you know, and it's sad that there 499 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: wasn't behind what you yeah, right, but it's sad because 500 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: like all my business deals want to ship. At the 501 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: time when that happened, it was like I had I 502 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 2: was booming, I was on fire, and then all that happened, 503 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: it was like, you know, but then thank god, I 504 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 2: came back again. But it was just hard, you know, 505 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: and then even I felt bad that my kids had 506 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: to go through that. 507 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: You know, that's you know, like them being. 508 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: Judged by other you know, kids at school and then 509 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: their parents talking like that's sad to me. I wish 510 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: my kids didn't have to go through that because that 511 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: was really hard. And that's why my kids are so 512 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: strong the way they are, because they know who their 513 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: mommy is, you know, and they. 514 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: Of course, and that's the rest of the world who's 515 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: judging you. There are times where I'm like, are you 516 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: saying unkind things because you believe them, or are you 517 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: you're you just know that this will hurt my feelings. 518 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: Like I don't think Teresa, when people start calling you criminal, 519 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that they believe you're a criminal. I 520 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: think people know the truth, right, I think they're just 521 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: trying to hurt you because it's really hard people find it. 522 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: We talked about this on the podcast a few weeks ago, 523 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: that your success they take as a personal insult. Yeah, 524 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: when it's not. So it's the only thing they can 525 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: put out there that makes them feel better about where 526 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: you are in life. 527 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: Right, No, you're right, You're right. So that's why. 528 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that's why I like laugh at that when 529 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 2: they went you know, when people used to call me 530 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: your criminal or anything or click click, I like what, 531 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, what I never even knew what click click was. 532 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 3: I was like, you know I that Yeah, I was like, okay, 533 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 3: like you know, it's just funny to me. 534 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: But it's just that I you know, when as a mom, 535 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: like you don't want your kids to ever hurt, and 536 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 2: I fall like for my kids, I don't care. I'll 537 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: take all the bullets you want to throw at me, 538 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: you know, but you know, my kids, like it was hard. 539 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: You know, it was hard for them to go through 540 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: what they had to go through, you know, So. 541 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: I just I I adore you as a mama, Like 542 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: you you really are It's been such an amazing thing 543 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: to watch your kids from, you know, the time they 544 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: were young children, and just the way that you getting 545 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: forward girls ready and deck to the nines, by the way, 546 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: on top of yourself. I used to always worry. 547 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: About they were to perfection, and then with me, I 548 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 2: would rush myself, but I always make. 549 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: Sure that you also looked perfect. 550 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: Tried, I tried, but I always made sure they looked great. 551 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: And then I would get and then I would rush myself. 552 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: And yeah, because I would do everything. Joe would not 553 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: help me with nothing. It was always may I used 554 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: to do everything. 555 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: He would just yell shirtless at the top of the stairs. Milania, 556 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: you get your you get you, asking you in your room, 557 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: put your bowling like it was great in television. I 558 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: want to know before we sign off, what are your girls? 559 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: What's the your girls? So they have a favorite meal 560 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: that you that you made, they like, I got a 561 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: lot of questions about your. 562 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have four cookbooks. 563 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: And then Milania love steak bitsa yalla, and it's it's 564 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: like a steak and like in the in with plump 565 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: tomatoes like and I yeah, and then I make it 566 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: over white rice and then They also love Taia Deli 567 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 2: like the spinach and the white I make it with 568 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: in ham. I discep the ham and then peas with 569 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: Peccorino romano cheese and it's delicious. 570 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: It's in my cook water. Yeah. 571 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: And Skinny Italian ordering your coat, Skinny Italian and fabulous 572 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 2: Skinny Italian. 573 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: That's the It's fabulicious the first one. 574 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: Oh, Skinny Italian's the first one. 575 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: Did both of those. How how many books have you 576 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: had on the New York Times Bestseller? 577 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: I have three cookbooks and one memoir, so I'm a 578 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: four times New York Times bestselling author. Congratulations. 579 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: What does that feel like, because I know what it 580 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: feels like to have someone call you and tell you 581 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: that you're not Yeah. 582 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: Very proud. I'm very proud of that. Yeah. 583 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: So that was like, that's like a really big accomplishment, 584 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 2: like having six books four times on the New York 585 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 2: Times Bestseller. I love doing my Super Bowl commercial. When 586 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: I did that with Dak Prescott. That was so much fun. 587 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: That was amazing. 588 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 3: That was fun. Yeah. 589 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: And your body is sick tree. I know we're it's 590 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: a comment, no, but I mean it's it's high. Your 591 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: body is high. Level, like, whatever you're doing in the 592 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: gym is what I need to take on. And again, 593 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: I know we're not supposed to comment on people's bodies 594 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: in this day and age, but I'm I'm going to 595 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: because you're asked in those fucking football pants. 596 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: I was like, are you thank you joking me? I 597 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 2: work out a trainer and then I do pilates. Plates 598 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: is great. Yeah, but your body is amazing too. You 599 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: have a sick body, you're beautiful. 600 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that, and I'm gonna let you say 601 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: that to me because I don't have a man to 602 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: tell me how sick my body is, so I will 603 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: take it from you. 604 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure you need to just go out there. 605 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: Well we're talking. You can't. You got to get out there, 606 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 3: you can't. 607 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: I talked to Teresa on the phone the other day 608 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: and I was asking her about Safari because I'm like, 609 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: I gotta get him on the pod, and she was like, 610 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: you like him. I was like, no, no, no, I'm looking 611 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: for men who don't want to swing their dick all 612 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: over town. So yes, I do want you to hit 613 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: him up, though, because I'm dying to put him on 614 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: this podcast and ask him all the questions in the world. 615 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he will definitely do it. Yeah, he's awesome, well, amazing, guys. 616 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: Up, I will, I will. 617 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: Link it up. You know, I'm just looking for a 618 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: quick chat on the plot. Beautiful and you know, if 619 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm feeling morny that day, we'll just see where the podcast. 620 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. 621 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm the Queen of being inappropriate in front of people. Teresa, 622 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: thank you for doing my bonus episode. I really appreciate you. 623 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: You're welcome, and you, guys, thank you for listening to 624 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: another bonus episode of the Give Them. 625 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: La La podcast. 626 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: Enjoy The YouTube video is up now. Enjoy that and 627 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: I will catch you on Wednesday for the regular old episode. 628 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 3: Bye bye,