WEBVTT - Forced Back to Normal 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.680 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to okay f Daily with 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.520 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.920 So friends, as everyone is preparing to rip off their 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.200 masks and stop social distancing and pretend that the last 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:29.280 two years did not happen, namely that we didn't learn 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:36.480 anything from our pandemic um word on the street according 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:38.960 to the Gothamist, and you will listen to more of 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.200 this in my interview with our friend, our in house doctor, 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.880 doctor Jonathan Metzel. There's a new variant. There's a new 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.920 sub variant um that some doctors are referring to as 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:55.080 omicron two. In New York, they are referring to it 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:59.640 as BA dot two b A two, which is a 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:03.800 center a variant that was discovered back in November that 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.959 has some of the same properties in making of amicron, 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:13.720 but spreads thirty percent faster than the original amicron. It 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.600 is right now multiplying itself every two weeks, and currently 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.240 one in ten cases that are being identified in New 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.760 York are of this strain. Why do I bring this 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:29.720 up at a time when folks really clearly everyone and 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.639 it isn't just by party or affiliation. It is really 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.000 through fatigue that people are done. They are done with 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.400 this virus, They are done with living in the ways 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.640 that they have for the last two years, and they 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.600 want to move on. And what this showed me when 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.760 I saw it and I am reading other news about 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:54.040 what is happening around the globe, is this just because 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.600 we are exhausted and tired with this virus, Just because 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.880 we would like to go out and party again, which 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:05.880 people are doing, doesn't mean that we can let our 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.760 guards down. Doesn't mean that we shouldn't still be vigilant 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.480 and thoughtful about how often we engage and in the 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:17.720 situations that we're in, you know, making sure that we 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.360 are still being safe. And I think that just because 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:28.120 cable news has taken down their ticker of COVID, just 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:32.200 because we are now have our attention on another crisis, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:37.360 right which is the crisis in Ukraine and the potential 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:41.760 of a World War three and who's overtaken a fucking 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.440 nuclear facility and all of these different things. Just because 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:50.000 our attention is moving from one crisis to the other, 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.440 it doesn't mean that we shouldn't think about how these 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:57.000 two things are colliding. So in my conversation with Jonathan, 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.240 he will bring up the fact that when we are 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:04.959 at war, when wars have broken out, there is also 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:09.440 contamination and health issues that go along with that. Because 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:14.160 you're talking about now, right in two weeks time, two 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:19.320 million people have now fled the Ukraine for bordering nations, right, 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:25.760 two million people in two weeks time, and with them 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.079 they are bringing a whole host of health needs. In 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.560 an interview that I will do, that I had that 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.520 will be posted soon with our friend Danielle Campamore, she 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:42.120 talks about the needs of Ukrainian people with regard to abortion, right, 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:49.880 And we're talking about how this war condenses, right, all 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.640 of these other things that now you're no longer able 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:57.600 to do because you have basically your entire livelihood, right, 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.320 whatever you could grab from your home is on your back. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.720 So we're talking about doctor's appointments, we're talking about mass 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.400 we're talking about abortion, we're talking about COVID, we're talking 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.960 about all kind of different diseases that will now be 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:15.280 called mingling because there's a mass exodus from one country 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:19.000 to a multitude of nations. And I think that what 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:26.839 gets lost, right, because you know in news what bleeds leads, 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:31.440 and so for years now it has been COVID, COVID, 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:36.000 COVID well, now, COVID fatigue. Now it's Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.400 World War three, World War three, World War three. But 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.839 we're not thinking about how these situations are colliding with 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:48.279 one another and what damage that's going to incur. So 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:56.040 here's the other thing. Apparently, right now there are outbreaks 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.680 of COVID happening around the world. And what we know 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.560 with regard to the patterns that we have seen over 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.560 the last two years is that we are roughly about 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:11.400 a month to two months behind areas like China, a 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:17.760 month behind areas like Western Europe, and right now in China, 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:22.880 again not really being reported in with any significant amount 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.520 of coverage, because again there is a collective push and 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.760 desire to move past this pandemic, whether or not it 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:34.720 is done with us. There have been outbreaks. There was 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.560 a rash of outbreaks that happened in Hong Kong. There 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:44.440 have been outbreaks that have surpassed twenty twenty levels according 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.200 to the Gothamist that is here in New York. And 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.039 then I pulled it up and I started looking, and 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:53.640 I said, oh shit, Wall Street journalists covering this. Okay, wait, 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.720 New York Times is covering this, but we're not seeing 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:01.000 it on cable news because cable news is focused on 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.080 the Ukraine. And what's unfortunate is that, what do we 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:07.080 know to be true, most people don't fucking read right. 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:11.760 And so what I want to alert us to is that, Look, 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:19.000 we have reached a point in this pandemic where governors, mayors, 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.640 the President of the United States is basically saying, take 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.479 your health into your own hands. We're no longer going 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.960 to dictate to people what they can and cannot do, 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.840 because clearly it has not worked. Right. We never came 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.760 together as a nation to fight against a virus. We 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.640 came to fight against each other. And that is thanks 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:42.200 to the MAGA faction, right and Donald Trump. But beyond that, 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:47.800 you know, you have to take your personal health and 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:54.960 safety seriously without having to be dictated to. So, if 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.800 you are going to be traveling, you're going to be 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:01.320 on public transport, whether it's a plane, train, or automobile, 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:06.600 wear a mask. If you are going into crowded situations, right, 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.479 that are going to be indoors, whether that is a 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.200 restaurant or not. Right, we're getting into warmer weather here 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.040 on the East coast, So you know, God willing, we 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.600 can all just go back to eating outdoors. And if 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:23.760 this variant, if this subvariant of omicron does spike and burst, 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.760 at least we will be in a season that allows 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.920 us to handle it better than we did in the 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.840 winter with omicron one. So all I say all of 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:38.720 that to say that the personal responsibility right that we 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:45.400 have now is we have all of the tools vaccinations, boosters, masks. 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:50.200 That's it, right, And so you don't need your governor, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.280 or your mayor or your president anymore to tell you 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.480 how to wear a mask, when to wear one, and 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.880 what to do if by some miracle you have been 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:04.760 able to stay COVID free this entire time. Knock on wood, right, 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.720 then you know what to do. If you've gotten COVID, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.280 then you know, God willing, you have antibodies. But what 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:16.280 I'm saying is this, I take everything that comes out 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.760 of the CDC these days with a grain of salt. 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.880 I take everything that comes out of the Administration these 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.440 days with a grain of salt. I do not believe 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.800 that the decisions that are being made right now are 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.800 solely about our public health I believe that they are 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.480 being made because of politics. I believe that they are 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.360 being made because of capitalism. And so at the end 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.280 of the day, I know what I need to do 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.959 in order to keep myself safe, and that is what 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.520 I'm going to continue to do. And so we will 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.880 get into that conversation with our friend Jonathan Metzol in 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:54.360 just a moment. The other thing that I do want 0:08:54.600 --> 0:09:00.760 to address today that I think is of no right, 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:07.400 and I mentioned this yesterday. There is w NBA player 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:13.079 Brittany Griner, who we have learned over the weekend is 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:20.760 being detained by Russian authorities on suspicion of marijuana cartridges 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:25.000 being found in her luggage. Folks, this is what I 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.880 want to say, right, and no one should be made 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.079 an example of or be used as some type of 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:35.400 political pawn, which is what Russia does when they detain Americans. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.720 You know. I feel for her family, I feel for 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:47.200 her wife, I feel for her family, her friends, her teammates, 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:52.080 because who knows where this is headed and whether or 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.280 not she will at some point in the near future 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.880 be released. There are people that have been being held 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.360 in Russia for a year, right and without some type 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:06.720 of international outcry or act of government, and right now 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:12.000 our government is not speaking to the Kremlin. Right, so 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.880 Brittney Griner is caught in the middle. Why do I 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:20.920 bring this up? Because folks, people are traveling, We will 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.320 all be traveling again. Folks are going to take you know, 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:29.240 summer vacations and whatnot. You may be passing through various areas. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.960 Here's what I'm going to offer. Do not travel with 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:38.199 anything that is not legal in said country and said 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.760 place that you are going to. Do not make assumptions 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:46.160 that because you have broken things up or you know, 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.400 hidden them in different compartments of your luggage, that like 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.000 you're going to be good. I think that we are 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:59.480 living in wild fucking times and you should, you know, 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.480 try travel like a girl scout right, make sure that 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:07.440 all your eyes are dotted, all your teaser crossed, and 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:13.520 that everything is together, because who knows when things will 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.680 go left? Who knows how they will go left. I'll 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.520 tell you that one time. And this is obviously this 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.800 is before the pandemic. In twenty eighteen, I was traveling 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.920 to Germany to Berlin with a friend and on the 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:33.360 way back I was like physically accosted by TSA in Austria. 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:38.640 I had never been like physically groped my hair, pulled, 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:43.040 my breast, touched like. It was so jarring to me. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.920 And as I'm looking around, I was like, one, I 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.480 think that I was targeted because of my race, right, 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.800 But as I was looking around, you know, people are 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.880 like yelling, right, don't touch me, don't do this, don't 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:00.559 do that. Because I was unfamiliar with what the customs 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.440 were as we were passing through said place. And what 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.480 I'm saying right now, as the world is back open 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.320 and people love to pretend that COVID does not exist. 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.760 As you were traveling, and if you're going to be traveling, 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.040 take an extra few minutes to make sure that you 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:21.400 understand the rules of where you are going, make sure 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.440 that you are taking good care of yourself and whoever 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.800 it is that you are traveling with. Again, we don't 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:32.160 know where the situation in Ukraine will go. We don't 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.640 know if it will spill over into the rest of Europe. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.920 We don't know if Americans will start to be targeted 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:41.280 in different areas that may be sympathizing with Putin. We 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.200 have no idea. But what we do know is that 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.559 it is important for us to take responsibility for ourselves, 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.720 for our own safety and well being. So that is 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.520 my little PSA as I continue to follow the Brittany 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.600 Grinder case and hope that at some point we have 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:02.200 good news to report, because I cannot imagine. I can't 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.800 imagine the pain. I can't imagine the suffering. And for 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.200 those of us that would love to judge and say, well, 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.880 you shouldn't have done x Y and c, well, people 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:14.520 do worse, right, people, people have done worse And many 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:18.160 people have traveled with cartridges and vape pens and this, 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.240 that and the other thing, and it's not a big deal. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.880 It's not a big deal in our country. It is 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.559 a big deal in other places. And those are things 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.280 that I want us to just keep in the forefront 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:32.560 in this ever changing, ever shifting landscape that we are 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:38.000 living in. It is about personal responsibility and the responsibility 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:44.080 of those around you, folks. Coming up next is my 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:55.440 wonderful local Wednesday convo with our dear friend, doctor Jonathan Metzel. Folks, 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.319 you know that I'm always excited when it is Wednesday 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.959 and we have our friend house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.439 with us to discuss the latest and of course not 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:09.000 the greatest news, but we love you, Jonathan, and one 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.480 day we will do a podcast just on puppies. So 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:17.679 let me tell you what news broke before we came on, 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.640 and news that I think is important given that right now, 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:27.120 according to the CDC, according to every single governor, according 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.960 to President Biden, we can all just go back to normal. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:35.000 That there is nothing more to be worried about. Don't 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.760 look over here, folks. COVID is done well, according to 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:43.040 the Gothamist, and omicron sub variant is doubling in New 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:47.200 York just as mandates lift. This is known as be 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:51.280 A point two. And this virus is an offshoot or 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.920 sub lineage of the omicron variant that just swept through 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.840 New York State. It's kind of like they said, the 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:02.400 kid's sister, and some experts even call it amicron two, 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:07.440 and it spreads thirty percent faster than it's sibling, which 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:12.000 seems about right, because if I remember, Jonathan, omicron spread 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:16.680 double at the rate that delta did. Delta spread double 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:22.040 off of what alpha did. So talk to us about 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:26.960 where we are and what you think about the COVID 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:31.760 mandate lifting, right, And we had doctor Fauci on the 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.240 show last week. He said, you know, when it's raining, 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.440 if it's a downpour, you have galoshes and boots and 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.520 a raincoat and an umbrella on. When it's drizzling, you 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.320 don't need all of that gear. Right now, we're in 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.440 a drizzle phase. But that doesn't mean that you should 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.520 throw out your rain gear. I said to doctor Fauci, 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:55.120 interesting analogy, But people don't usually protest the rain. So 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.800 what are you thinking about where we are right now? Well, 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.200 you know, it's pretty good my analogy. It just shows 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.640 like the altimists and the pessimists, like what I think 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.840 of I think about it, like do you want to 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.640 walk across the highway when there are three cars coming 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.160 at you or when there are like fifty cars coming 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.280 at you? And so I'm like, you know, if I'm 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.840 gonna get run over by a truck, I'd rather do it, 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:19.800 you know, like you have to be careful or you know, 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.200 you recognize when you have to be careful. So I 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.360 like his analogy a lot better. I'd rather get red 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.440 than get n over by a truck. Um. But um, 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.320 But you know, it's it's an interesting time, right because 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:34.200 on one hand, there is a sense there's a kind 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.320 of there's a sense that many people are at the 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.680 end of their rope, right and and that's not just 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:44.640 about the biology of the disease. It's also politically like 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.720 it like it became it became untenable for blue states 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.360 to keep trying to, you know, have mass mandates when 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.560 there's a convoy of truckers headed your way, who's going 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.280 to protest and all these kind of things, And so 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.720 in a way, it just became a political liability. And 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.080 I've I do feel like this decision was made in 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.000 many ways out of politics, but also just to be fair, 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.439 out of kind of human exhaustion in a certain kind 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.520 of way. And so I think that in a way 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:14.439 that the sense that people felt like, okay, you know, 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.280 the big O came through. It was a new version 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:21.800 of COVID that didn't kill most people, and therefore it's 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.000 something we can live with. I think it was a 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:28.040 calculus that people made relatively carefully. But again, it wasn't 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.199 just a medical decision. It was also an emotional and 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:34.480 biological decision. Now that being said, and you probably have 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.720 this too, man, I know an awful lot of people 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.200 with COVID right now. Like I'm in New York and 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.520 I've got a lot of friends who have COVID, and 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.119 if this thing is like literally like nobody's got it 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.159 and nobody's getting it, then I'm just like, man, I 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:51.240 must just have a very very select sample of people. 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:53.600 You know, my neighbor's got up, my friends have it, 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.560 you know, that kind of thing. And so it's not 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.679 surprising to me, you know, and I us the danger 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.400 is going to be if some new wave comes about, 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.320 which it will and we're not prepared or exhausted or 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:10.040 some things like that, and so you know, I just think, yeah, yeah, 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.080 I want to talk about the waves for a minute, right, 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.560 because you and I have been doing this now, been 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.359 in conversation, you know, once a week for two years. 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.960 And what we have seen over the past two years, right, 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:29.760 is that we've seen now three different variants, right, three 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:33.359 different major variants that have that have engulfed the world, 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:38.679 the alpha, the delta, and omicron right in two years, 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:42.840 meaning that roughly every six to eight months or so, 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.119 there is in fact a new variant that is worse 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:52.000 than the initial one. So I want to understand and again, yes, 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.200 it is fatigue. I'm fucking tired, right Like I I 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.360 too am done and want to go back outside and 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.080 do all of these things. But what do you think 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:06.640 that that the thinking is honestly behind understanding that omicron 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:11.280 took us by storm. But we saw this, But do 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:15.080 you use Fauci's analogy. We saw that storm coming from 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.920 the UK, coming from uh South Africa, coming from all 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.159 of these places a month prior to it landing in 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.400 the United States. Well and again, so you know that 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.360 that's an issue now, right Because again, I mean it's 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:28.960 funny because I was at the airport and somebody in 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.920 front of me in line said, putin is the new COVID, Like, 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.520 I mean, that's fair, And I thought, man, that's true. Man, 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.240 Like you know, it's like we needed some we needed 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:44.080 some we did some humanoid villain or something. Um. But 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:48.800 I do think that the warning signs on this on 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:53.800 this horizon are still pretty considerable right now. Um. Like 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.080 part of it is that there's a massive wave in 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.359 other parts of the country and for the part of 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.920 the world. UM, China usually get stuff a month or 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:05.240 two before US. China is going bonkers right now with 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.920 with COVID infections, and this is with a bunch of 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.560 people who had already had the big go and so 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.920 what's happening in China I think is concerning um and 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.840 so yeah, I think that's true. I just think it's true. 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:22.800 I think that, Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:27.280 is this administration in your in your opinion, making a 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:31.080 miscalculus right now? Are we? And not even just this administration, 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.600 you know the CDC, the who like, are we making 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:41.080 a miscalculation because we're doing so from our emotional exhaustion 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:45.359 and politics as opposed from a place of science, which 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:50.040 Fauci and others tell me that they're being led by. Again, 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.760 I think the issue is it became politically unmanageable. I 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.520 think that's really what happened, is it became politically unmanageable 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.400 and there was nothing that we could do in terms 0:20:57.440 --> 0:20:59.760 of mandates. I think that for people like me and you, 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:03.760 issue is still the same, which is get vaccinated, where 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.640 masks be as safe as you can. So I don't 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.800 think that our daily practice really changes. I just think 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:13.560 that getting wide swaths of people to do the same 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:18.480 thing is not It's just you know, I think that 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:20.560 Biden called it like living with the virus, and I 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:22.440 don't think it's so much living with the virus. It's 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:26.400 like our political system was not able to live any 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:30.440 other way. And so I guess the take home, which 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.800 what you and I are both hesitating of saying right now, 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.720 is there's a lot of COVID in our future. And 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:39.840 also there's things happening. I mean, what's happening in Ukraine 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:43.679 right now is a humanitarian disaster of an epic scale. 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:48.480 But when you have two million people moving with no 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.959 health infrastructure or whatsoever, it's also going to be a 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:55.399 pandemic disaster quite possibly. And so that and what's happening 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:57.359 in China. It's just like, I just don't think this 0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:00.320 thing is done with us. But I would again also 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:06.199 say that I think that the political possibility of you know, 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:09.320 it's hard, right. I mean I went into a restaurant 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:12.720 their day without a mask on and I and it 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:14.760 felt really good. It's felt like, oh man, this is 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:16.720 just like going back into a restaurant, like I want 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:21.520 that so badly. But I also know then I thought, man, 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:24.800 I'm just gonna wait and see what offense. I don't know, 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:27.920 Like I'd read that study that COVID changes the brain, 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:33.280 it has brain effects that they're finding. COVID cancross your 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.200 brain for the rest of your life, and that's not surprising. 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.399 I mean, it crosses the blood brain barrier. So I 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:40.719 don't know, I'm kind of rambling to me, but you know, 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:44.600 I just there's no answer what I mean, Jonathan, this 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:46.840 is what I do every day. But like you know, 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:51.560 the fact, the fact is that I've talked to friends 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:56.400 who either they themselves or they're someone in their family 0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:02.680 has long COVID. And and what we know right now 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:06.359 about long COVID is that it materializes in a couple 0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:10.879 of different ways. There is consistent fatigue, meaning that you know, 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.359 walking down the street of maybe walking down a flight 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:17.119 of steps is now really difficult to do. There is 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.680 brain fog, so long periods of time of being able 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:26.000 to concentrate, i e. You know, work is very very taxing, 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:29.760 right There is so, There is pulmonary there is heart, 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:31.879 there is mind. There are all of these things. And 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:36.080 I think that the trouble here is that I don't 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.800 even think that this administration has even talked about long 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:42.159 COVID in any serious way. Any time that I have 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:45.919 interviewed one of the doctors that are part of the 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:49.760 COVID Task Force. You know, they're they're talking about masks, 0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:53.080 ands and vaccinations. All of those things are important, but 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:56.040 they're not reminding us that just because you get it 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:59.399 and it goes and you didn't die, doesn't mean that 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:02.040 you're not going to be impacted and have some type 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.240 of disability moving forward. As you know, I just got 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:09.680 off a plane. I've just rushed here to speak to everybody. 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:14.119 But I just flew in from Denver and and the 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.640 guy sitting next to me was one of these right 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:20.800 wing weasel zippers. I think apparently he worked for the 0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:24.360 lou Dobbs show as like doing Twitter for or something 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:27.200 like that, and he was doing this kind of whole 0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.720 fake mask thing with like his nose out and all 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:32.560 that kind of stuff, And I thought, like, I don't care, 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:35.600 you know? You do? You do you? I had my 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.280 double mask on. One of my masks was an INN 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:40.479 ninety five, and I just didn't really take it off 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.199 during the flight. And so I think that's kind of 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:45.160 where it's going to be, is like I, I honestly 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:48.000 I have no desire to control the guy next to 0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:51.520 me anymore, because I think it's a losing proposition all 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.160 I can do is like stay on top of the information, 0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.880 talk to you about it, do thing. But but again 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.399 it's hard because it's not just like, oh, I'm going 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:01.480 to go to the matt because I love wearing a 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.320 mask all the time. I hate wearing a mask. But 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:07.240 I also think that now is maybe not a great 0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:09.200 time to get COVID. I mean, it's never a good 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.800 time to get COVID, especially not right now, because if 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.520 there is going to be another big surge like this, 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.040