1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Friday edition of Clay and Buck kicks 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: off right now. We are honored to be hanging out 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: with all of you across the country. Thank you for 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: spending some time with us here. I cannot believe it 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: is June. It just feels like this year has gone 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: by at warp speed, perhaps even Ludacrius speed for those 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: of you who are fans of space balls from back 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: in the day, if you remember, ludacros speed was the fastest. Well, 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: we got a lot of news to talk to you 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: about a new CD Seed director, and neither Clay nor 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: I under this Biden regime are particularly excited about that 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: CD Seed director. That's putting it mildly go figure. Yeah. 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: And we've also got Julie Kelly joining us with some 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: new information to share about January sixth footage, and we'll 16 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: get to her about that a little bit later on. 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: And also Trump talks about how he'd be an amazing 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: coach of a women's basketball team, which was really quite amusing. 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: Trump is obviously very very funny. So a few things 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: at the top of the news for right now. We've 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: got the Sean Hannity town hall last night with Trump. 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: Will play you some of the highlights of that. We 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: also have and I think Clay and I also see this. 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: That's Trump interacting with people directly for him. Is this 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: just a sweet spot? You know, he's great on stage, 26 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: but just dealing with and fielding questions on the fly. 27 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: And that comes from decades of well many many decades 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: of just being a guy who's a a entertainer and 29 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: entrepreneur and now obviously former president. We've got Mike Pence 30 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: not facing charges in the classified If you remember, there 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: was that period where Biden had classified documents found in 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: a couple of places, including his beach house next to 33 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: the corvette. Of course, Biden has a corvette in the 34 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: in the garage with classified just hanging out by it, 35 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, next to his aviators. We'll talk more about 36 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: Biden too in a second. But Mike Pence not facing charges, 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: there's some some thoughts we have on that one for 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: you as to look, we didn't think Pence was going 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: to be charged. What does that mean for the special 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: counsel that's looming in the background here of Trump World? 41 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: And that's it Also some wrangling with the networks over 42 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: who gets to have the Republican primary debates. We're expecting 43 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: next week Chris Christie is going to get into the mix, 44 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: so we know they'll be. There are additional candidates who 45 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: are are also going to be trying to angle to 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: get on that stage. But MSNBC and CNN, should they 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: get any Republican primary debates, will weigh in on that one. 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: But first, the trip scene round the world. Everybody this 49 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: this I Clay, there's a part I hate this stuff 50 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: because I've had I'm sure you've had spent time with 51 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: elderly relatives who are very dear to us when they 52 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: reached that stage. And I mean this, I'm not trying 53 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: to be sanctimonious about it, like I remember, I remember 54 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: what it's like with my grandfather when he when I 55 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: was covering his knees with a blanket, and you know, 56 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: he would get a little forgetful, and you know, and 57 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: we're all hopefully going to go there ourselves, meaning last 58 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: that long, you know, our ourselves one day and have 59 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: family to tend to us. But I'm not trying to 60 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: be the commander in chief. You're not trying to be 61 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: the commander in chief into our eighties. This is reckless 62 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: and there's something sick about it. There's something wrong if 63 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: you didn't see it. And we will put a link 64 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: up on clayanbuck dot com so everybody can just see 65 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: in case you haven't seen, because we're you know, we're 66 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: living on the internet, so we're always seeing all the 67 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: social media clips. Biden just I mean, Clay he wipes out. 68 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean, actually for a second, you're there's a concern 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: that maybe he's old enough where that kind of a 70 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: wipeout could really hurt. And then the media immediately jumps into, oh, 71 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: it's no big deal. I mean, here's MSNBC's one of 72 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: their analysts on this play thirteen. 73 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: And presidents do fall. They do, they trip and fall. 74 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: President Obama did a few times. But no president's ever 75 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: been eighty one years old and run for reelection while 76 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: they did so, his age is an issue here. The 77 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: Republicans immediately jumped on this. They blasted all over social media. 78 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: The White House is very quick to be defensive. They 79 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: pride themselves, this White House of being above the fray. 80 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: We don't engage on Twitter. 81 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: Yesterday they were all over Twitter because they knew they 82 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: know poll show that Americans do have concerns about the 83 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: president's age. This is going to be a storyline they 84 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: have to deal with. 85 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: He's got to mention he's too old, Clay, What else 86 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: does anyone want to debate this issue? 87 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: At this point, People trip, people fall. It isn't a 88 00:04:53,080 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: big deal if it occasionally happens. Buck, he is both 89 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: physically and mentally not able to do this job. And 90 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: I'll just bring up a couple of examples. Recently at 91 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: the G seven a lot of you may have seen 92 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: this clip. He's going downstairs and he starts to lose 93 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 3: his balance. He catches himself, but he came very close 94 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: to doing what he did on the stage at the 95 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: Air Force Academy yesterday afternoon. That is falling full on bad. 96 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: And if you watch the video, and I would encourage 97 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 3: you to watch the video. Some people don't want to 98 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: do it because they feel bad. But this is important, 99 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: I think, because you know who's watching this video China. 100 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: You know who's watching this video Russia. The president's physical 101 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: and mental acuity when he is the commander in chief 102 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: is of the utmost important and this is why actual 103 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: presidential campaigns are. 104 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: So grueling right. 105 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: We want to put through the most difficult imaginable process. 106 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: Our leaders heap stress on their shoulders. Buck, It's not 107 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: only that he fell, it's that when he fell. If 108 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: you watch the clip, which is why I encourage you 109 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: to watch it, he tries to get back up himself 110 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 3: and he wasn't able. They had to come and help 111 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: him stand. Now again, there are eighty year olds out there. 112 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: I would bet that a lot of the eighty year olds, 113 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 3: some of them are listening to us right now. When 114 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: you are that age, there is a wide variety of 115 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: physical and mental attributes. Biden is not I don't believe 116 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: a particularly well moving eighty year old. Like if you 117 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: look at him in the stiffness in his joints, this 118 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: is not a guy who walks with ease. And he 119 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: keeps doing that thing where he tries to pretend like 120 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: he's gonna run like, oh, I'm a great athlete. Look 121 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: at how physical Buck. He said, if you question me, 122 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: and this is why it's important, sixty six percent of Americans, 123 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: basically two out of three, said he's not up to 124 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: the job of president. This is not helping that. And 125 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: he said in response to the question, hey, what would 126 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: you say to people who don't think you're up to 127 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: this job? Watch me, okay, you challenge us, watch me. 128 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: You can't walk. This is reckless. He shouldn't be the nominee, 129 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: should be president. Now, he certainly should be the nominee. 130 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: It will be quite a quite a call. If you 131 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: know our our friend Bill O'Reilly, who was almost us yesterday, 132 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, sticking to it, saying that he still believes now. 133 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm still taking the other side of that bet because 134 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: I think that it's just Democrat apparatus. They don't care there. 135 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: I think some of them actually get some weird joy 136 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: out of we can even make this guy president, which 137 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: is kind of where things are. But I'm not I 138 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't you know, I wouldn't bet the I wouldn't bet 139 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: the farm, so to speak, that it's definitely gonna be Biden. 140 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: I would give I would give like ten to one odds. 141 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: But I think the other part of it that's interesting 142 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: is that usually we think of, let's be honest, right, 143 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: you go back, you look at you look at previous 144 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: vice presidents. Biden was a vice pres Is it meant 145 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: to be really in an advisory role to Obama? And 146 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: everyone thought the position was kind of superfluous really at 147 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: that time. Yeah, like no one was you know, it 148 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: was you know, Trump with Pence. You know, it's an 149 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: interesting one. I would have to go back and look 150 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: a little more at an O Pence is gonna be running. 151 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: I think we probably will have Pence angling on that 152 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: debate stage too. That choice, I think it didn't really 153 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 1: matter because I think everyone knew they're voting for Trump. 154 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: You know. 155 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: I think that that vice president was kind of interchangeable, 156 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: you go back, never before, This is my point. Has 157 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: there been a vice president as consequential in the role 158 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: as Kamala Not because of what she's doing, but because 159 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: of the very because as we know, it's not really 160 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: she's not really doing very much at all. It's very 161 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: possible she will have to take over in a second term, 162 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: making her the president, you know what I mean. So 163 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: it's not like a normal vice presidential pick where it's 164 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: just for the ticket and who cares. No, she's she's 165 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: on the own. She's in the on deck circle, and 166 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: she may have to step up to the plate, which 167 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: I think also unnerves a lot of people. 168 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other thing I would say about the 169 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 3: Biden fall buck is think about what he's like behind 170 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: closed doors now, and this is where I come back 171 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: to doctor Jill Biden and also everybody who surrounds Biden. 172 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: We are seeing him for what percentage of the day, 173 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 3: three percent of the day, five percent of his overall 174 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: waking hours. In terms of you and me and everybody 175 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: out there being able to see him and judge his performance, 176 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: he has one of the lightest schedules of all time. 177 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: They fly him to Delaware, every opportunity they can basically 178 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: hide him. My point on this is, and yet he 179 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: goes out and he tries to say, Hey, where's the 180 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 3: dead congresswoman? 181 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: Remember where's Jackie? 182 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: We've now seen him fall going up and down the 183 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: stairs at Air Force One multiple times. We saw him 184 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: fall on his bike. We saw him fall on the 185 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: stage in daylight, middle of the day. What is going 186 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: on behind the scenes. As out of touch as we 187 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: know Biden is, he can't read off the teleprompter. He 188 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: says all sorts of strange things. The whispering that I mean, 189 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: he's clearly not mentally and physically all there. What are 190 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: they covering up? What is occurring that we're not seeing 191 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: that would make many of us say, oh my goodness, 192 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: because remember they're super prepping and we've seen those big 193 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: note cards that he has, like you sit here, you 194 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: call on this person. They have to micromanage his entire day. 195 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: And to me, Buck, this is what's so sad about this. 196 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: You can agree or disagree with a lot of people 197 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: on policy, but the idea that the president doesn't have 198 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: the wear with fall to be president. Remember how often 199 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: they tried it out the twenty fifth Amendment with Trump. 200 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: When Trump slowly walked down the stairs at West Point, 201 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 3: Biden even made fun of him because he slowly walked 202 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: down the stairs. Can you imagine if Trumpet had a 203 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: fall like this what the reaction would have immediately been. 204 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: I think bringing up that twenty fifth Amendment period is 205 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: important as well, because to me, that was right alongside 206 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: in terms of the in terms of the clear dishonesty, 207 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: the kind of people that were circulating around that and saying, oh, 208 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: we need to use a twenty fifth amendment. It's like 209 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop denial. It was so clear that 210 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: there was no need for It's so clear that President 211 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: Trump wasn't not of sound mind to be president. God 212 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: to talk about it was just a giant lie meant 213 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: to undo his role as president. But they'll lie about 214 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: absolutely anything, and that's I think something that we all 215 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: have to be prepared for here, including and what you 216 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: were just saying, Biden's ability to keep doing what he's doing, 217 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: and the fact that they say things like, oh, behind 218 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: closed doors, he's sharp as attack. Give me a break. 219 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: They say that less now though they're kind of crossing 220 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: over into that threshold of even the true believers are like, well, 221 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go that far. 222 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And here's the question, are they really going to 223 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: do this? Are they really going to go full John Fetterman? 224 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: Because again, as much as I think Fetterman was a 225 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: disgrace that he's there, he's fifty three. 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Maybe to close out the 255 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 3: hour eight hundred and two eighty two two eight eight two. 256 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 3: If you want to weigh in on Biden following, maybe 257 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: you're eighty, right, Maybe that's a good thing to. 258 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: Ask for. 259 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: If you are of that age and you watch Biden fall. 260 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: There's a wide variety of different mental and physical faculties 261 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: in people at the age of eighty, just like there 262 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: is Frankly at forty or fifty, right, Like everybody is 263 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: aging at different rates and people are at different health. 264 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: But it's hard to watch that and think to yourself, 265 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: this guy's got five and a half more years as president, right, 266 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: because we're talking about a year and a half regardless 267 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: in theory that he would have to serve through up 268 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: to January of twenty twenty five, and then the idea 269 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: that he would be in office until January of twenty 270 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: twenty nine. I hate to say this, I'm not sure 271 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: he's going to be alive in January of twenty twenty nine. 272 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: And I don't say that in some sort of like oh, 273 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: this is like I just looking at his physical aging 274 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: and the way that he's moving and everything else. I 275 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: don't feel that confident in saying that he's going to 276 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: be alive in January of twenty twenty nine. And that 277 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: sounds awful to say, but I don't think it's crazy 278 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: to say that about anybody who's eighty two right that. 279 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: Do you feel confident if your mother or father, grandma 280 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: or grandpa are eighty two right now? 281 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: Are you? 282 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 5: Like? 283 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would bet everything that they're going to be 284 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: alive and healthy in five years. I don't even think 285 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: they would, because everybody knows that things can change quickly. 286 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: At that age. When you step back and think about 287 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: how the number of people whose lives are affected by 288 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: the recall, decision making, and overall cognitive function of Joe 289 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: Biden at this point, it's pretty shocking and somewhat terrifying 290 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: too that this is someone who now I think the 291 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: way that people would try, even Democrats, would try to say, oh, 292 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: it's not that bad as well, he's not really making decisions. 293 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: He's effectively a puppet of the Democrat system around him, 294 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: which I think is true. But that's a problem as well. Yeah, 295 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: and right, it's not like that's an answer to the problem. 296 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: Wait a second, we've got this guy and other people 297 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: are pulling the strings on the puppet. I think that's 298 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: a major issue. But they have their ways of trying 299 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: to explain this away. 300 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: Clay Yeah and Joy Reid on MSNBC said, basically, now 301 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: they're not even trying to defend Biden anymore. They're just like, 302 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: you can't even beat this guy, loser. Listen to cut fourteen. 303 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: By the way, if he's a falling down eighty year 304 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: old that doesn't know where his pants. 305 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: Are, he's still beating you. 306 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: Think about what you're saying about you. 307 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: You're saying, oh, look he fan, he fell well beating you. 308 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, make it make sense, you'll be logical. 309 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: They're laughing at how incompetent he is and the fact 310 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: that they can still put him in a position of power. 311 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: That's where we are. But there's a truth here that 312 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: she's getting to. We are we cannot sleep on this 313 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: this election cycle. It doesn't matter what I've been saying 314 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: all along. They could wheel Joe Biden out with him, 315 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, eating the apple sauce out of a sippy 316 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: cup of whatever. They don't care every single Democrat who 317 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: voted for him before is going to vote for him again. 318 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: We're assuming here he's going up against Trump. That's going 319 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: to turn out a lot of those Democrats. And so 320 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: we just have to understand this is going to be 321 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: a fight. Even with Joe Biden as he is. It 322 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: is going to be important to mobilize and to get 323 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: the Republican Party to get its act together because he 324 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: could I mean, if he pulled it off once. However 325 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: they pulled it off. Oh all right. Look, recently I 326 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: had a first in my life here in the media. 327 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: I got to do an interview with a family member, 328 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: my dad, Mason Sexton, creation of an online video special. 329 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: My dad has a long history as an extraordinary market analyst. 330 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: With the topic we took on to something he calls 331 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: the Great Disruption of twenty twenty three. The past Mason, 332 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: my dad, he predicted on television and you can see 333 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: the video when you go check out the presentation. The 334 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: stock market crash of eighty seven he correctly called the 335 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: top of the market before the massive COVID crash, and 336 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: there have been really other important observations of major market turns. 337 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: For years. He's been advising hedge funds behind the scenes 338 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 1: doing things more quietly. But now, after thirty years of 339 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: doing stuff that you haven't heard about, he's coming out 340 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: with a really important announcement, the Signs of major disruption 341 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: in the markets. Mason Sexton will tell you why most 342 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: analysts are wrong about a coming lost decade in stocks 343 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: and why what's coming could be much worse. You need 344 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: to see this video. Go to Disruption twenty twenty three 345 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: dot com. That's disrupt twenty twenty three dot com. Friend 346 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity had a town hall last night on Fox 347 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: News with President Trump, and there were there were some 348 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: notable moments. We wanted to share some of them with 349 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: you here talk about a little bit and also open 350 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: up the lines to all of you. What do you 351 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: think about what you saw in the town hall? What 352 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: were the best parts of it, parts of it that 353 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: you take issue with or whatever? Eight two two eight 354 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: eight two Here is I think this was among the 355 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: biggest applause lines of the night. Clay. When Trump talked 356 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: about the Russia Ukraine war, here's what he said to 357 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: Sean play five. 358 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 5: I want to stop the war. I don't want that 359 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 5: war to continue, and I'll stop that war mark my words, 360 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 5: I'll stop that war in twenty four hours. But we're 361 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 5: in a. 362 00:19:52,280 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: Position so quaite, you know, fundamentally, I think, and Trump 363 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: is addressing this. The Biden, Democrat and even some Republican 364 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: positions seems to be we just stay in this thing 365 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: in Ukraine and eventually the Ukrainians win. And I think 366 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people on the right and 367 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: maybe even some on the left a very few of 368 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: these days, for whom the focus shouldn't be in it 369 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: until Ukraine wins. It should be come up with a solution, 370 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: a settlement, a ceasefire to end this thing so people 371 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: stop dying and cities stop getting destroyed and we're not 372 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: spending hundreds of billions of dollars to support it all. 373 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 374 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: Look, here's one of the things that I think Trump's 375 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 3: one hundred percent right on. He came on our show 376 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: in February of last year. We were at mar A 377 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: Lago with him, and he said Putin would have never 378 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 3: invaded Ukraine if I were still president. I think he's 379 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: one hundred percent right. I think Vladimir Putin feared what 380 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: Trump might do in the that he invaded Ukraine, and 381 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 3: we just had Biden who can't walk across the stage. 382 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: Imagine what Vladimir Putin thinks when he interacts with Joe 383 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: Biden and sees him for what he is, a shell 384 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 3: of the man he used to be, with no real spine. Okay, 385 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a coincidence that this happened soon 386 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: after Joe Biden became president. I also believe Trump's right here. 387 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: I think what Trump is an expert at is negotiation 388 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: and leverage. I really one hundred percent mean this. That 389 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 3: is his entire career. If Donald Trump finds that he 390 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: has a little bit of an inch of an advantage, 391 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: he can exploit that into a more substantial advantage. And 392 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: as a part of that discussion Trump I watched last 393 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: night with Hannity that they had on Fox News. Trump said, 394 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 3: and I think he was one hundred percent right about this. 395 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: He said that Zelenski and Putin will both respect him. 396 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: He'll get them each in their own room, and he 397 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: will have his team and himself to a certain an extent, 398 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: going back and forth and getting this thing resolved, because 399 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 3: it basically has to be a negotiation. And he's been 400 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 3: smart because CNN tried to get him to really kind 401 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: of dive in, who are you rooting for in this war? 402 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 3: Do you think that Vladimir Putin's committed war crimes? And 403 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: Trump was smart with Kaylen Collins. He said, basically, I'm 404 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: not going to get into that because then he's picking 405 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 3: a side, right, And once you say, well, if Zolensky wins, 406 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: if Russia gets completely kicked out, neither one of these 407 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 3: guys can be seen as losing, right. And as soon 408 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 3: as you put out your impressions of winning and losing, 409 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: then you are making the negotiation more difficult. Both sides 410 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: have to be able to sell to their respective parties. Frankly, 411 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: what we just saw with the debt ceiling, right, the 412 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 3: debt ceiling got resolved. We didn't talk about it a 413 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: lot on this show because we told you for months 414 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: it was always going to get yes, uh, And it 415 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 3: got resolved in a way where Speaker McCarthy can in 416 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 3: some way claim victory and the Democrats can in some 417 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: way claim victory, which is how to be fair. Almost 418 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: every negotiation between two aggressive, committed parties ends right. Nobody 419 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: gets complete validation and nobody gets complete evisceration. Both sides 420 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: have to give some and both sides leaving the negotiating 421 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: table and claim victory, and that's what ended up happening here. 422 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I think that on Ukraine, the Trump position 423 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: is going to find a lot of residents. And I 424 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: also think it's the right position. I think it's the 425 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: one who should just be trying to figure out how 426 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: to pressure these two combatants, Russia and Ukraine to end 427 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: this war as soon as possible. I think it would 428 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: have a lot of calming effects and therefore growth effects 429 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: on global markets, no doubt. I love the stuff. When 430 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: Trump also is talking about drilling and domestic oil production 431 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: that it's one of those things where it sounds like, oh, yeah, 432 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: that'd be nice. No, it would help so much on 433 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: the geopolitical level as well as economic level. I mean, 434 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: you see, Russia's been able to do what it does 435 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: because it is a hydrocarbon superpower. So we are too. 436 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: But we shouldn't be held back at all by lunatic 437 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: left wing stuff. I wanted to get to this because 438 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot obviously, and we recommend anyone who hasn't 439 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: seen it go back and you can watch Sean Hannity's 440 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: town hall with Trump on the replay but when he 441 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: asked him about this on the tape. We talked about 442 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: this yesterday at the classified document situation. We're talking to 443 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: Julie Kelly in the third hour about this. We know 444 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: that Mike Pence is not being prosecuted for the classified 445 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: document thing that's come out today. Actions I think reporting 446 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: on that right, here's Hannity asking Trump if he's on tape. Basically, 447 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: is the Washington Report story bogus or not? That's what 448 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: he's at Play. 449 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 5: Eight News broke yesterday that there might be a tape 450 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 5: recording that quote where you acknowledge that you and nderstood 451 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 5: that these were classified documents. 452 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: First of all, do you know who this call may 453 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: be with? 454 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 5: Do you know anything? No, I don't know anything about it. Well, 455 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 5: I know is this everything I did was right. We 456 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 5: have the Presidential Records Act, which I abided by one 457 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 5: hundred percent. Biden has one thousand, eight hundred and fifty 458 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 5: buckses with a lot of classified stuff that he's not 459 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 5: supposed to have. In his case, I have the right 460 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 5: to declassify as president. 461 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: So he's not backing down an inch on that one. 462 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting and we'll be so interesting to 463 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: see you know the Special Council. If they bring that charge, 464 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: it's an if we don't know. Does it create especially 465 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: if it's on obstruction, which just so many people, it's 466 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: like a conspiracy charge? Right, yeah, it's such, it's such. 467 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: Does that just create a moment where everymon's like, all right, 468 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: that's it and rally effectively instead of rally around the flag, 469 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: it's rally around the Trump. Well, there's a. 470 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: Report out there that regarding this specific document that the 471 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: Trump team looked for, it couldn't find it, and it 472 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: doesn't sound like it's been found elsewhere. Again, this is 473 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 3: supposedly We talked about this, I think yesterday on the 474 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: show dealing with Iran. I think what's being set up 475 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 3: here with the news coming out today that Mike Pence 476 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: is not going to be charged, is they are building 477 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 3: the narrative that there's a right and wrong way to 478 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: handle classified documents. Right, think about the Jack Smith investigation, 479 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 3: and what Pence has allowed them to do is claim 480 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: that they looked at what a Republican did and he 481 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: did everything fine, that this is not part of it. 482 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: In political they will then tie this in with Joe 483 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: Biden and say, oh, he's like Mike Pence when he 484 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 3: found his classified documents, he called and we came and 485 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 3: we looked and all this stuff, right, And that's why 486 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 3: I think ultimately, and we'll talk about this with Julie Kelly, 487 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: but it feels to me like they are building towards 488 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: an obstruction of justice charge for Trump relating to the 489 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: classified documents, which again a lot of people are going 490 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 3: to say, oh, there's not much here, but it would 491 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: allow Democrats to finally say we've caught Trump red handed, 492 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 3: and now he's going to have to pay the consequences. 493 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: They want to put him in prison. And this is 494 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: why I keep hammering home with I want every Republican 495 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 3: candidate running for office to come out and say I 496 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 3: won't allow that to happen. Now Trump could pardon himself. 497 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: I'd encourage you to add to this visolation with Andy 498 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: McCarthy yesterday, really good and maybe a better. 499 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: Way, you know, if we if we were to continue 500 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: on this, to be to say, can you agree that 501 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: these charges against Trump are unjust comma and therefore he 502 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: should be pardoned? If this you know, there are a 503 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: few conditionals here, right, yeah, right, we think and we 504 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: think the charges are unjust therefore, can we ask that 505 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: any Republican if you know, you know what I mean. 506 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: I just feel like there's a it's like a decision 507 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: and tree that we're laying after people. 508 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. And also, by the way, I can understand a 509 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: candidate saying, well, I want to wait and see what 510 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: the charges actually look like, right because right now it 511 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 3: appears that they are going to be entirely politically motile. 512 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: And there may be none. Yeah, I think that's I think. 513 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't bet on that, but there may 514 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: be none. They may not want to, they may want 515 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: to not want to poke the bear as much as 516 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: they think they do, especially if he gets more momentum 517 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: or wildly. 518 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 3: And I keep floating this out there because I don't 519 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: think the chances are zero. Biden could pardon him. Biden 520 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 3: could do it because you still have buck things. I'm 521 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: crazy as we're we're. 522 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: Gonna we gotta come up with some kind of a 523 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: I'll give you good odds, mister Clay Travis. But the 524 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: that is a that is there's no way that Joe 525 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: Biden would bail out, uh. 526 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: Because the charges are potentially still their bucket in New 527 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 3: York City and now there's reports that the that the 528 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: Georgia investigation is expanding and involving more different allegations, those 529 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: would still stay in. 530 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: One of the big problems we have, Clay, is that 531 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: for Democrats, this stuff, the ultimate clickbait still is the 532 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: walls are closing in on Trump. If you can write 533 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: a walls are closing in on Trump's story, even if 534 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: it's about, you know, someone's accused him of lying about 535 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: his handicap on the golf course, like it doesn't matter. 536 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: But if you can run a headline about, oh, we 537 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: finally got him, clickbait heaven for the Libs, for the left, 538 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: they love it. 539 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, we come back. Take a couple of 540 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 3: your calls. I've also got a question for Buck that 541 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: is going to blow his mind. 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But Buck, I 568 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: saw this and I wanted to hit you with the quiz. 569 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: Do you know spelling Bee happened over last night? 570 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: Oh Rod, you're gonna hit me with spell and hope 571 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: that I don't type real fast while you're asking me 572 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: on Now. 573 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 3: I am just curious if you have ever heard of 574 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: the word that was the winning word. So I want 575 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: to give a shout out. Dev Shaw a fourteen year 576 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: old from Largo, Florida. He won the spelling Bee last 577 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: night eleven other spellers in a nail beating final. They 578 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 3: he gets fifty thousand dollars in cash, commemorative metal, the 579 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 3: scripts Cup, lifetime of bragging rights. I'm reading that from Axios. 580 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: The winning word. 581 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not even sure how to pronounce this, samofile? 582 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: Do you have any idea what a samo file is? 583 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 3: It's a noun. 584 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Samo I mean with someone who loves sam ofile. 585 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: I've never heard this word in my whole life. 586 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm honestly I st what is a samophile? 587 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: It is an organism that prefers or thrives in sandy areas. 588 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 1: Never heard the word samo file. So my question for you, 589 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so that's you know, it's not even it's 590 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: a different. Wait, how do you so? I spell it, 591 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: because it's not. 592 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: Just I'm gonna let you guess, not how to spell it. 593 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: Just tell me the first letter in the word. 594 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: T Oh, you got it, Clay. Come on, who are 595 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: you rolling with here, buddy? Samo fi. 596 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: I'm guessing that's pronounced samo file right, And I could 597 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: we all if. 598 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: You're getting if you're getting really tricky with an S sound, 599 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: you gotta know there's a P before it. Yeah, you 600 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: can't bring that into bucks house, you know you want 601 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: to try to spell it? Then No, I'm going to 602 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: take my small win and I'm going to take that 603 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: to the bank. I'm not fooling a friend here. I'm 604 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: taking my cash home. 605 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: Sama file P S A M M O P H 606 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: I L E samo file winning word. There you go. 607 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: Uh, you're all g so the ways you get tricked 608 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: up on that one. Obviously, the double M is tough, 609 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: the oh file and it's the PS and then the 610 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: double M in the middle, because I think everybody, even 611 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 1: if you caught the PS trick, you'd say you wouldn't 612 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: think of it as a double M. Yeah, so he 613 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: got it, And I want I want to challenge this 614 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: little mister Shaw and see you know we go ahead 615 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: to heavy probably smoke me. 616 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: I'm impressed that you got it starting with the word P. 617 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: I should have paused and let everybody else out there, 618 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: guess I don't. I think I think most people would 619 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 3: have just gone yes, samo file. I'm gonna started off 620 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: on the s because spyworld, you gotta think pseudonym a lot. 621 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: Pseudonym is a very common Uh. There we talk about uh, 622 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: Alberta winter garden, Florida, beautiful part of the country. 623 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: What you got for Selberta? 624 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: How are you well? I'll make this really fast. I 625 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 4: agree one thousand percent with Buck. They're gonna wheel out 626 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 4: Biden like Bernie weekended. 627 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: Bernie wend Bernie my analogy. 628 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 4: With the yeah with the shawl, with a shawl over 629 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 4: his legs and the eating tapioca, putting in the dark glasses. Now, 630 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 4: what the Republicans need to do is they need to 631 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 4: forget the way how they campaign. This is not about campaigning. 632 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 4: This is about getting the most amount of ballots in 633 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 4: the ballot box. They're gonna have to do Harvard ballasting, 634 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 4: a ballot harvesting wherever the states allow it. They're gonna 635 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 4: have to do absentee ballots, not not trust anymore on that. 636 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 4: The same day balloting, same day election is gonna do it. 637 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 4: They're gonna have to get the dead out to vote. 638 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 4: I'm telling you they're gonna have to do everything whoever 639 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 4: they for. It's no longer about campaigning, pressing flesh and 640 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 4: kissing babies. It's about getting It's not even about debates. 641 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 4: I mean, Hobbs won in Arizona without a debate. It's 642 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 4: about getting the ballots into the box. If they don't 643 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 4: change the way they campaign, they're gonna lose again, even 644 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: if Biden is officially dead. 645 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: You know, I'll put it this way, Alberto, if we 646 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: were doing thank you by the way I look, I mean, 647 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: you agree with me. I agree with you. I think 648 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: your spot on and your overall assessment of it and Clay, 649 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: you know, if we were trying to create some kind 650 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: of a product and we were artisans, and we're at 651 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: home and we're just trying to make, you know, the 652 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: most beautiful hand carvings possible. Let's say somebody else has 653 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: a factory churning out a thousand carvings a day. They're 654 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: gonna grow faster. They're gonna win. If you know, what 655 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean, and this is it's about the machinery around 656 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 1: the candidate that's gonna make such a big difference. 657 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 3: Look at Federman, he won by almost five points. To 658 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 3: their credit. I have heard almost every Republican candidate out 659 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: there say, yeah, we're doing with ballot heart. Yeah, they 660 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: realize it's now all you know, like the same way 661 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 3: we're all the above on energy, we're all the above 662 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 3: on elections. 663 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: Whatever it takes within the law, unlike the other team 664 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: to win. James and Odessa, Texas, what do you have 665 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: for us? 666 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 6: James thany you guys, Yeah, I think I didn't hear 667 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 6: it all. But when you were talking about the obstruction 668 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 6: charge of wall Ago, I know I heard that. I 669 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 6: guess it was last year when they went to mar 670 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 6: A Lago the FEDS and they took all the stuff, 671 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 6: and then someone there signed an official document for the 672 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 6: DOJ saying that was it, and then someone in mar 673 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 6: Lago called it there too, later said no, there's more. 674 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 6: Then that was when the big raid happened, that raised 675 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 6: a stink and they found more stuff. So that to me, 676 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 6: if that did happen someone signed a document saying there's 677 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 6: nothing more, someone is. 678 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: Libel, thank you for the call. They are going to 679 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 3: come after him. If they're going to charge him in 680 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 3: the classified documents, I believe obstruction right. They're going to 681 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 3: argue that he tried to keep these documents and he 682 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 3: obstructed the investigation into their retrieval. That's where they're headed, 683 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 3: and we'll see whether or not there's January sixth charges, 684 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 3: but I think there's going to be federal charges. I 685 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 3: think they're going to be, unfortunately for obstruction able