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Speaker 1: Good news everyone. I listened to the Black Guy Who

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Speaker 1: Tips podcast because Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackouts podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host, Rod, join us always with my co host Aaron,

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Speaker 2: and we are ready to do some podcasting.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: This is a feedback show. It's for people that had

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Speaker 2: things to say throughout the week. We're up, bright and

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Speaker 2: early doing this. It's nine am on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if we know most of y'all, particularly y'all to

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Speaker 1: do the chat and be like, damn they not already

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Speaker 1: to the show, Yes we is. It is in your

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Speaker 1: feet press play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were already up. We went and have breakfast,

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Speaker 2: had a purple rain mimosa.

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Speaker 1: I had a strawberry and what was this strawberry and

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Speaker 1: blueberry mimosa something like that.

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Speaker 2: And then I had some pancake tacos like I'm full,

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Speaker 2: full of all the energy and sugar and ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Yes, child, you too. I had some in the hot

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Speaker 1: chicken waffle, honey hot chicken waffle, and it was absolutely

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Speaker 1: delicious with some grits that had like bacon and case

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Speaker 1: hell on it. Yes, lord, it was delicious.

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Speaker 2: So we're really we're full and ready to take on

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Speaker 2: your feedback. Okay, we're going to burn this energy through

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Speaker 1: That's what old people do. You get up and you've

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Speaker 3: We also got a five star review.

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Speaker 1: Oh let's go.

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Speaker 3: Yep, we got one five star review.

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Speaker 2: And it is from Doc Octagon on wait Doc Octagons,

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Speaker 2: there you go. It says wish I had five more stars.

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Speaker 2: They still don't got enough stars on iTunes to rake

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Speaker 2: this show. If you black and you don't listen to

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Speaker 2: this show, baby, what is you doing? Rod recently clowned

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Speaker 2: me for voting multiple times on his poll, and what

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Speaker 2: I like to say is that I was taught to

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Speaker 1: I hear you say it's your fault from you, Rod.

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Speaker 3: Just don't go to jail in real life. Be careful.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, here's my second review in the ten plus years.

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Speaker 3: All right. The first episode of the week was twenty

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Speaker 3: seven thirty two Sword versus Pitchfork. It was a feedback episode.

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Speaker 2: We have seven comments Aba said, you talked about black

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Speaker 2: people decided not to hit their kids.

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Speaker 3: Same here.

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Speaker 2: In my childhood that was hitting. Not extreme, and it

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Speaker 2: was very common in Poland at the time. But still

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Speaker 2: I think parents who managed to break the tradition of

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Speaker 3: It's not easy to react calmly in very stressful.

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Speaker 2: Situations, yees, especially when you would hit as a kid

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Speaker 2: thing that happened to you.

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Speaker 2: I don't think not hitting your kid means that they

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Speaker 2: have more autonomy or responsibility. Necessarily, we still have rules

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Speaker 2: for them. The punishment for breaking them is just different here.

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Speaker 2: It's getting a talk for mom or dad. Black Stephen, though,

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Speaker 2: Harvey says, look at look y'all. I work up town

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Speaker 2: and the lunch rush be trifling sometimes and for some reason,

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Speaker 2: Arby's don't never have a line at the drama through

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Speaker 2: showed the shrug emoji.

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Speaker 3: Shit.

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Speaker 2: I'll be back at my desk under thirty minutes like

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Speaker 2: the dominoes noid with some curly fries and the same

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Speaker 2: regrets I would have I waited in line at poach Angles.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Arby's is selling drugs to the community.

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Speaker 3: But I can't. But I can't hate because black Dynamite

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Speaker 3: I used to sell drugs to the community.

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Speaker 2: You could call us apologists or accessories of crimes, but

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Speaker 2: I think I like to think of us as enterprise

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Speaker 2: and opportunities to stay strong.

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Speaker 1: Eve, maybe you ain't got a whole high, a whole

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, like I said, I don't care that

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Speaker 3: people eat Arby's. I mean I've eaten Chick fil A.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like, I just don't get the pride and the defense

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Speaker 2: of it. I feel like, to me, y'all to fit

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Speaker 2: somebody trying to tell me that it's okay for Chick

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Speaker 2: fil A to be homophobic, Like eat the chicken. But

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Speaker 2: you don't got to excuse the bullshit. And I think

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Speaker 2: that's especially like before you even get into the crime

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Speaker 2: front shit. We know for a fact they give like

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Speaker 3: So the Arby's is.

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Speaker 2: By far and away ahead of Chick fil A and

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Speaker 2: some of the places that y'all laugh about and shit

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Speaker 2: I don't see where the pride comes in.

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Speaker 3: That's all I feel. Says.

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Speaker 2: As for racism, of course, it also exists here, but it's,

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Speaker 3: Tell, it's more of the individual racism.

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Speaker 2: Germany is a country as a country doesn't, for example,

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Speaker 2: So at least that's good. I wonder how it is

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Speaker 2: for a black person to live here and have as

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Speaker 2: have As I often said, no black friends to ask.

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Speaker 2: There are almost only white people in my proximity because

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Speaker 2: college health insurance for everyone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and what people fail to realize when people go

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Speaker 1: talk about these utopias, you know what, they are predominantly

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Speaker 1: And if that percentage get too hot, they'll start revoting

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Speaker 1: and they'll start passing laws. So it's still there. But

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Speaker 1: it's real easy to give everybody health care and all

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Speaker 1: these great things when everybody look like you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like I said, I can't speak to it either.

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Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of black people that live there.

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Speaker 2: I haven't really talked about that experience. I'm sure that's

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Speaker 2: kind racism and microaggressions and macroaggressions people deal with. But

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Speaker 2: maybe it's just different in a country where it's not

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Speaker 2: Pamela Inmate says, I'll risk your ridicule and scoring because

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Speaker 2: it's funny and admit that two or three times per year,

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Speaker 2: I'll go through an Arby's drive through for a classic

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Speaker 2: gross beef sandwich with Arby's and Horsey sauce, but not

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Speaker 2: but nothing else. Usually because I'm literally starving to need

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Speaker 2: some protein. We go by Arby's on our way to

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Speaker 2: visit my mother, and we like to count how many

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Speaker 2: always a few, because we're in Indiana. All. I've also

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Speaker 2: got two key poons for free breakfast sandwiches from Chick

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Speaker 3: I ain't shamed. All y'all are eating that chicken.

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Speaker 2: All y'all are eating that chicken too sometimes make it

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Speaker 2: a great week, Pamela. Yeah, Like I said, I just

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Speaker 2: don't understand the pride and the defense of them.

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Speaker 3: It's that's it. I've had Arby's before. I don't. I'm

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Speaker 2: Nasty as people send me videos of like people that

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Speaker 2: and they'll see me videos like look at these dudes.

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Speaker 2: They ate Arby's and they liked it. I'm like, that's

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Speaker 2: not the problem.

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Speaker 3: What the fuck?

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Speaker 3: Listen to the show, Sopa.

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Speaker 2: King says finally got around to finish the episodes twenty

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Speaker 2: on twenty seven thirty, Man Versus Everyone, Jail was talking

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I can't help but wonder what sort of Monkey's

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Speaker 2: Like you know that motherfucker's just rushing the sugar right

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Speaker 3: It ain't got nothing to do with the bacon in

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't have put bacon on the fucking plate with

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Speaker 3: Why would I ask y'all to do such?

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Speaker 3: So I ordered like a roast beef sandwich or something.

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Speaker 2: And then I went back home like you supposed to.

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Speaker 3: That's how you eat Arby's.

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Speaker 2: You don't supposed to do it the way y'all doing

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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous, uh, he says.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I took advantage of a mobile cou pone

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Speaker 3: That's how you know it's a drug front.

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Speaker 2: How the fuck can someone give you five roast beef

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Speaker 2: nothing like that, Like chicken nuggets costs like ten dollars

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Speaker 2: they keep rubbing in our face like get that Wago beef,

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Speaker 2: Wagle beef, Nigga, you.

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Speaker 3: Got wagle beef for four dollars?

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Speaker 2: How that makes sense unless you're just drug lunch money line,

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Speaker 2: for twenty seven dollars, because that's how much waggle beef

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Speaker 1: That makes sense, because bitch, I've been online. I heard

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Speaker 3: To not an artists if you want our reasons. Wagoo

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I mean my pockets got to grown.

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Speaker 3: Not at arbists five dollars?

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Speaker 1: Now specificed Waygoo beef? What is that though?

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Speaker 3: Five dollars?

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Speaker 2: Wago beef is five dollars. You're not following anything I

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Speaker 2: just said. You'll maybe you'll listen back to the show

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Speaker 2: and you'll get get the jokes later. But it's the

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Speaker 2: I don't eat Arby's. I saw r DC World short

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Speaker 2: since I subscribed to chat on YouTube. Has been literally

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. We end up going elsewhere for lunch.

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Speaker 2: None of my money is going to support the Republican establishment.

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Speaker 2: When visiting my grandma, we didn't expect they heard that chain.

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Speaker 1: It was like, oh, somebody was there.

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Speaker 2: Right, Why would a why would a restaurant not be

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Speaker 3: It's not a holiday, it's not a real fucking restaurant.

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Speaker 2: When my when visiting my grandmother's, I drove past the

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Speaker 2: Arby's just to see who is supporting opposition. Keep making

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Speaker 2: excellent and entertaining content, Austin Ev said, shout out to

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Speaker 2: Arvey's High. Keep spreading the gospel. Don't listen to the heavies.

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Speaker 2: Arby's has the meats.

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Speaker 3: Sad shame. Then let's see we got comments on the YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Let me see what we got here. No oh comment

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Speaker 2: on this episode, and uh, let's go to the pole.

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Speaker 2: The poe was, do you eat Arby's?

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Speaker 3: Yes or no?

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Speaker 2: Seventy percent of our audience does not eat Arby's. Thirty

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Speaker 2: percent of y'all do. That's all I'm saying, Why are

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Speaker 2: you such a loud thirty percent? Y'all ain't shit, y'all,

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Speaker 2: ain't nobody calm down.

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Speaker 1: I was like, We're gonna let you know we hear Rod.

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Speaker 2: Don't nobody care about y'all chill eat that shit shamefully

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Speaker 2: like you sold too.

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Speaker 3: And it's even worse with the people with money. Eighty

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Speaker 3: one percent of them said no, nineteen percent said yes.

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Speaker 1: Cause that was like bit chyall gonna get me some

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Speaker 1: real waggle beef. What is this?

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Speaker 2: The Q and A was you don't have to defend

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Speaker 2: Arby's just because you eat it. Ms Barr says, yes.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 4: What A come?

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Speaker 2: Aaron says, I don't eat Arby's, but I've been tempted

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Speaker 2: to taste it based on all this discourse.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you your.

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Speaker 2: Design says I do really like the apple pecan sound

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Speaker 2: salad sandwich. That's it your the market first soundarch is

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Speaker 2: be hitting and once again, six dollars for a fucking

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Speaker 3: You go to fucking Deana Delukat that's a twenty dollars sandwich,

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Speaker 3: but at Arvey's six dollars.

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Speaker 2: Come on, somebody, line Jane says, how much bride money

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Speaker 2: did eve E and Ms Barnes get from Arby's lobbyist

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Speaker 2: just to troll y'all right or care?

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Speaker 3: I'm disgusted me too. I'm gonna start blocking them out

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Speaker 3: the chat.

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Speaker 2: Raphael says, it's about time we had started intervention for

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Speaker 2: the Arby's class. I didn't realize that org was also

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Speaker 2: a code. I'm working on the plan. Well, you're probably

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Speaker 2: gonna put them in a coat of your own.

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Speaker 5: Knowing you.

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Speaker 2: Langston says, this is a safe space to admit that

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Speaker 2: Arby's is trash at duck du Q one two one

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Speaker 2: two says why do Arby's eaters constantly look for public

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Speaker 2: approval their choices, like their twenty sixteen Trump voters or something. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's another thing. When you know something is hitting you don't.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Every podcast you know listen with woke liberal host right,

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Speaker 2: every last one in them podcasts do what they shit

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Speaker 2: on Chick fil A.

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Speaker 3: They tell you it ain't shit. Don't nobody like it.

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Speaker 3: It ain't good chicken anyway. Don't nobody fight that.

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Speaker 2: But no one ever writes up to go No, let

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Speaker 2: me tell you why I'm proudly eating it. No one

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Speaker 2: give a fuck. They're like, y'all are right. That is

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Speaker 2: shameful that these motherfuckers had their stance. Also, the chicken

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Speaker 2: strips in the Polynesia sauce are hitting, and I don't

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Speaker 2: need your validation, Okay, I know it's hitting. Ain't no

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Speaker 2: need to discuss this shit with y'all because.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be there tomorrow. I'm gonna be there every day.

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Speaker 2: I can't except Sunday because they not open it, right,

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Speaker 2: That's just how it is something. It's a reason Chick

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Speaker 2: fil A always got a line. It's a reason the

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Speaker 2: motherfucker's stay in business. It's a reason you gotta use

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Speaker 2: the app to pull up on them because if not,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna be waiting for a while. Because people eat

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Speaker 2: it for real. It's not they're not virtue signaling, they

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Speaker 2: just do so. I think that's a big, great point

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Speaker 2: you made. Episode twenty seven thirty three is when we had.

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Speaker 3: Michael Harriet on YEP.

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Speaker 4: It was fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a lot of people enjoyed it on

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Speaker 2: Even he left a comment. Really enjoyed this episode. And

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Speaker 2: I love Michael's Twitter threads because I always learned something new.

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Speaker 2: I'll definitely check out this new podcast, thank You. Episode

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Speaker 2: one is out. Go ahead and get up, get at us.

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Speaker 1: It's really really fun, y'all. I listen. I listen to it, and,

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Speaker 1: like I said, ask somebody who's kind of been in

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, if this catches oh, and I

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm very proud of what we're making over there, and

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Speaker 2: we got more hot fire to come.

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Speaker 3: So stay tuned, man, all right this episode. So also,

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Speaker 2: laws in history.

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Speaker 3: I love it. That is such a great description of

439
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 3: what Michael does on Twitter.

440
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 2: It's a great description because it really is like you

441
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 2: start somewhere that feels like a non set, like just

442
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 2: a non secuitor, and then just by the end you're like, oh, okay,

443
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: so yeah, I love that.

444
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 3: The poll was should the judge be reprimented over his

445
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 3: TikTok videos? Now, we talked about that judge.

446
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 2: He was coming into nas and rapping and stuff and saying, wow, stuff. Yes,

447
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 2: sixty nine percent of the audience agrees with Karen Nice. Yes,

448
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 2: thirty one percent say no, shouldn't be reprimented.

449
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 3: Now, all I'm.

450
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Speaker 2: Saying is that thirty one p saying I just want

451
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: somebody to look at y'all's tiktoks because y'all must be

452
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 2: at work cutting the fuck up if y'all think this

453
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 2: is okay, if y'all think this is acceptable.

454
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: And on top of that, you don't have a normal

455
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: last job, bit you a judge, No, stay off fucking.

456
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 2: Tick tock even and was even wilder the exact same

457
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 2: percentage on Spotify thirty.

458
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: That's when you know it was real Nice.

459
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Speaker 3: Uh gonna get your.

460
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: Holder was our was our was our Q and A

461
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 2: because you know the title was go back to Canada. Uh.

462
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 3: Ignacio says, hey, Canada, keep your own trash. We got

463
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 3: enough we do.

464
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 2: Raphael says the judge, gonna get judge dread or maybe OnlyFans.

465
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: I'd have to start. I've just started to go fund

466
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 2: me to free him. Uh see, Canada has been naughty

467
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. We might have to invade them.

468
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 2: Trudeau needs to write me a piece offering check. Well,

469
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 2: I'll knew he was gonna get back on this hustle

470
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 2: comment soon. They didn't take didn't take long all right.

471
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: And then the last episode of the week we only

472
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: had three episodes this week was Kekey Palmer and Jonah

473
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: Hill Episode twenty seven thirty four had five comments. Ron

474
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: and Rafael says, both men took me wait, both men

475
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: took me back to a couple of Nigerian actors. The

476
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: first one to make my teenage self aware back then

477
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: was being interviewed after she had been absent from Dollywood

478
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: for some years.

479
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I understand his comment.

480
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: She just stopped making films right when her star was

481
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: beginning Sean Brighter, she is asked. She has asked what

482
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: made her step away from her craft. Her answer was

483
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: that she got married and her husband did not want

484
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: any another man kissing or holding his wife.

485
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: Oh so you're going back to okay?

486
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: Both men, Jonah Hill and Kekey Palmer's baby daddy got

487
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 2: it even.

488
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 3: As a teenager.

489
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: That felt weird for a man to marry an actor,

490
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 2: and she would now quit the job that he fell

491
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: in love with her doing it in the first place. Then,

492
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: over the years it would happen to a few more

493
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: stars and be treated like it's nothing. But to no surprise,

494
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: some of those marriages crashed and the women would return

495
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: back to the craft. A few years later, I finally

496
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 2: found the words that it was all about control. Y'all

497
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 2: can contribute to my time travel machine that's more reliable

498
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: than the submarine, so I can go back and explain

499
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: properly to my teenage self.

500
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: Let's invest in our young men. Yeah, man, it's amazing

501
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: how how much.

502
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 2: Men and the assists had in norm the relationships are

503
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: just taught to possess a woman like an object, and

504
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: once you possess this object, it's about controlling it. Yeah.

505
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: And also those men that have accepted and have not

506
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: deprogrammed them and have not learned their shit. And it's

507
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: very frustrating. And I understand it, age and time and

508
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: all that shit. And some men, there's some old men

509
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: who quote unquote never get it. But for a certain

510
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: percentage of men, particularly of this generation, once they get older,

511
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: they'll start unlearning and like like re the mind control,

512
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: they'll start kind of rejecting it, which is very hard

513
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: to do because it's literally you have to go against

514
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: everything that's in your nature, because your nature has told

515
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: you these things are right, and all of a sudden

516
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: you realize these things are wrong. And for some of

517
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: them happen from losing the good woman. It happened from

518
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: you know, people tell them and you're too controlling it

519
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: for some of them to click. For a lot of

520
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: them don't. They never get it, and they think women

521
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: are just these weird creatures and they're like, the fuck

522
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: you get with me, I'll put my dick inside of

523
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: you out to be able to tell you what the

524
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: fuck to do. And the women are like, no, bitch,

525
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: you can't. And they it's like they don't make that

526
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: connection that this person was the individual person before you

527
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: came in their lives and they'll be an individual person

528
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: way after you go and being we done, not together

529
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: or death, and so it for me is one of

530
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: those things to where a lot of those men look

531
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: at men that they quote unquote, they think that those

532
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: men but like this, those men think the men are

533
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: weak when they quote unquote let their women shine, when

534
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: they let their women like have a bigger light, have

535
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: a bigger career, go far, and still love them and

536
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: not have any ego attached to. They don't understand that

537
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: concept because for a lot of those men that haven't

538
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: gotten to the some of them haven't gotten to level

539
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: of maturity. And it doesn't mean like a superstar like

540
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: Hei keepama. It's something simple as fucking get a degree

541
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: like I was looking like. It's something simple as getting

542
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: a job, promotion like it don't have to be these

543
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: great things. But it's for the fact that you're doing

544
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: better than me. I am the person who' quote unquote

545
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: supposed to provide and if I don't quote unquote make

546
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: more money than you, if I don't have a higher

547
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: education in you, a lot of that that ego, that

548
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: that that that box in definition of manhood starts activating

549
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: in them, and that becomes a problem. And you have

550
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: a handful of women guess what that was like, bitch,

551
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up my career. I'm not doing this,

552
00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that.

553
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: Like no, Yeah, I think that's that's that's very true.

554
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 2: I think also we just learned a lot of toxic

555
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: bullshit when it comes to relationships, and we learned it

556
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: as kids, and and and we don't let it go

557
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: and things become a power structure struggle and then you

558
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: got a bunch of like gender war type shit that

559
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: invades people's uh personal spaces too, Like it's not just

560
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 2: a public discourse, it's a personal discourse. And I think

561
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff also is about people's personal like

562
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: allowances for each other. There's cause like that's the other

563
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: thing too, as manipulative and uh foul as I think

564
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: the way both of those men went about things was

565
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: there there is possibly some woman somewhere that's like, yeah,

566
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: I would buy by those rules and then to us

567
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: on the outside, if we didn't know the inner workings

568
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: on the outside, we'd be like, I guess that's a

569
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 2: fruit for relationship because they seem happy, and da da

570
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: da da, we don't know that part of the happiness

571
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: is I want you covered up or I don't want

572
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 2: you talking to nobody that's a man or whatever it is,

573
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: or we just wouldn't have seen that, and we would think, oh,

574
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: it's happy. But you never really know what's worth going

575
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: on with people. And also, I'm not knocking it, there

576
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: are people that could be happy like that. There's couples

577
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: that are like churched up and she liked that he

578
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: want her covered up, and he liked that he got

579
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: a woman that's gonna be covered up and the motherfuckers.

580
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: If you like it, I love it.

581
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: Just this is why I don't really subscribe to a

582
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: lot of people's you know, advice and shit.

583
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of stuff you just have

584
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: to do and learn on your own.

585
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: Agreed, because everybody individually is different, and a lot of

586
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: times what you want and your expectations from your make

587
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: significant other, partner, group of people, whatever, a lot of

588
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: that shit is not politically correct. A lot of that

589
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: shit does not fit. Whatever social media tell you to

590
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: know is it's gonna be some motherfuck out that is

591
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: gonna tell you it's wrong. So you know what, for

592
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: most people, keep that shit to yourself and live your

593
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: happiest life and keep other people out of your business.

594
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: Getting with somebody to change them is just such a

595
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: weird thing to me, and that's not something that is

596
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: That's why this conversation became about a lot the men

597
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: because of the men in these relationships, but there's women

598
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: that do that stuff as well. Sometimes couch is like

599
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: an altruistic situation. But even in those cases, it's like

600
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: it's a weird impost to me to be like I'm gonna.

601
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: Change this person like who they are is not.

602
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: I got with them as who they are, but the

603
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: goal is for them to be a different type of

604
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,239
Speaker 2: person when I'm done with them.

605
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: It's weird, you know, And I mean anyway, it's just weird.

606
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: And a lot of times those relationships.

607
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: Don't work out and they end up moving on with

608
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: the things you did or told them or whatever.

609
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: It's such a weird thing.

610
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: And you know, what's fucked up is a lot of times.

611
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: I don't know the percentage, but I guarantee you it's low.

612
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: That shit is never fucking in rever. Where are these

613
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: men where they women come out and tell them things

614
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: to be like I changed my whole life, I changed

615
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: my whole career, I gave up everything.

616
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: It can happen, but it's rare, No, this is what

617
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: I mean.

618
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: Because because it's not, you're looking at it like it

619
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: has to be the same set of demands I'm saying there.

620
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 3: I know a lot of women that have got with a.

621
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: Dude to change and being like I can change him

622
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: into somebody, And it's like even that impulse to me

623
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: is a weird impulse, correct.

624
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: Because you're like, I'm getting with you for whatever reason.

625
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: But I'm not really getting with you. I'm getting with

626
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: this other version of you I want to mold you into.

627
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: And it just like it's not the it might not

628
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: be the dull you down type of way that that

629
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: these men have gone about trying to doll down the

630
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: shine of these women, but it is a still a

631
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: fundamental you are not good enough. I'm going to change

632
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: you into what is acceptable to me. Yes, And I

633
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: think that, like, that's a.

634
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: Weird impulse to me. I get We're gonna I give.

635
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: I can't even understand the idea of like we're gonna

636
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: change together correct, the idea of I know what's best

637
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: for you, I'm gonna put you on the right path.

638
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: It's such a weird thing. And especially when most relationships.

639
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: Don't work out, that changed person or whatever the fuck

640
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: is not y'all might not even end up being together

641
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: for resentment reasons whatever reason.

642
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: Now, Now, if that part I agree, I didn't make

643
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: that connection. I was just thinking of it one way.

644
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: But yes, there are a lot of women that get

645
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: with men for this is this is what they what

646
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: they do for their quote unquote potential versus saying I

647
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: look at you now and where you are now, we

648
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: actually can't be together. So what the fuck? I'm here

649
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: for potential, you know. And so yeah, that's a lot

650
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: of women I can change, he can change. They stay

651
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: around much longer than they should and did with all

652
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: types of fucked up abuse or whatever, you know, in

653
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: certain situations because they quote unquote want to change this

654
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: person versus looking at this person accepting who they are

655
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: and saying I can't put up with the ship and

656
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: moving on and it needs to happen in both cases.

657
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just think, like, because I'm not

658
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: saying it's even in fair because I think I just

659
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: think the impost is there for a lot of us

660
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: to want to change the person to what we feel

661
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: is acceptable. But I'm reminded of like, you know, when

662
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: like I used to voice her insecurities about day about

663
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: being married to Steph Kurk, you.

664
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: Know that kind of like it's a real thing.

665
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: You're making it a public conversation, my telling everybody, But

666
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: it's a real thing that people can relate to.

667
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: And a lot of this stuff is great and not

668
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: in mushy.

669
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: It's not neat the way that we want things to

670
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: be it's not something that's easy to describe, and it's

671
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: also easy to judge when you're not in it. And

672
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: I think the thing I tried to get to on

673
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: our show about this is the relatable part of Hey,

674
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: we've all had insecurities, whether it be in relationships, by

675
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: our personal and securities whatever. How you handle that and

676
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: how you try to make that someone else's responsibility. That's

677
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: to me where the failure happens in trying to put

678
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: it on someone else. If there's a version of either

679
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: Jonah Hill or the I forget the guy's name, Jackson,

680
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: if there's a vert Darius Jackson, I think if there's

681
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: a version of them that says, man, honestly, it made

682
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: me feel insecure that she was out there like that

683
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: and I had to check myself. We'd be like, oh,

684
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: that's a yeah, we understand how you might have felt,

685
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: and we think it's cool that you internalized it and

686
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: looked at yourself instead of going, let me yell at

687
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: my woman in front of everybody.

688
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: You said, yeah, that would be wrong. Blah blah blah.

689
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: If Jonah Hill said, man, I got jealousy issues. I'm

690
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: in therapy about that. It's not your fault.

691
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: It's not it's this doesn't have anything to do with you.

692
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that I have these issues and

693
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: I'm working on them. We would have been like, that's healthy,

694
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: that's actually what therapy is for. You handle that shit yourself.

695
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: But I think both of these dudes failed and how

696
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: to handle it.

697
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: MS one KL says, Hey, folks, I knew y'all would

698
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: bring out the community situation with insight. Rod started off

699
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: with I'm sorry on how I had me cackling. Also,

700
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: Karen was right, the show on YouTube is a Terrell show.

701
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: That is exactly how I knew. She was still with

702
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 2: the father of her son.

703
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: I think he's talking about Kiki.

704
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 2: I've been to the Usher show in Vegas and it's

705
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: a good time. He does CrowdWork every show, and if

706
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 2: a celebrity is there, he acknowledges them. But he doesn't

707
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: always do a big serenade, but he always serenades somebody

708
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: in the crowd where they sit. There are so many

709
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: layers of this comedic layers that is. But ultimately, like

710
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: Karen said, this is some shit we didn't have to know.

711
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: He had a whole tweet where he said that when

712
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: he's in secure, he projects on the others, so he

713
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: may be self aware. She was definitely American sweetheart. However,

714
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 2: she has been dressing sexy over the last few years.

715
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: A body just had just wasn't filled out. That's a

716
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: good point too, because I do think we treat curvey

717
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: bodies as as overtly sexual, regardless of what they.

718
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: Were, and all types of people, all types of body

719
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: dressed sexually. But it's quote unquote what's considered acceptable.

720
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: And what Keiki when she wasn't as curvy and she

721
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: was like dressing a little you know more, I don't

722
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: know what you would call it, but just like say

723
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: sexy just for shorthand when she was dressing sexy for

724
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: like the premiere for like hustlers or something, people weren't

725
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: treating her like this, like the way and like she's

726
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: reveling in this because I think she kind of has

727
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: wanted to be seen this way for a minute.

728
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: And I can't blame her. She's a star, she's a

729
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 3: black woman. She see who's popping.

730
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: You see Megan, you see Cardi, like you see Beyonce,

731
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: and you know, to have your moment of like sexual

732
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: awakening or openness or people are at least recognizing you

733
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: as a sexual being, especially when you've been like a

734
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: child star, which is perpetually like little Sister.

735
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 3: Kiki to so many people.

736
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: I can see how she's reveling in this, and I

737
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: can see how it also throws off the balance in

738
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: the relationship and what this man probably thought he was

739
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: getting into versus what he's actually into now, and he

740
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: handled it poorly in front of everybody. I still embracing

741
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: quote unquote, preparing for the idea that she gonna still

742
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: be with this nigga, like after all this shit, and

743
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: y'all undragged him and talked about how she got.

744
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 3: To leave and all this shit. All I know is

745
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: we don't know them.

746
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: And just because it looks good for the brand or

747
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: whatever for the Twitter that's still the father of her kid.

748
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: I don't know their parenting situation. There's still a good

749
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: fucking chance she gonna be with this nigga. And I

750
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: know the Internet, And this is why I'm so distrustful

751
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: of social media. In the response to this and to

752
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: the Jonah Hill shit, is that y'all as an Internet

753
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: turned on people so goddamn fast. The Internet just it's

754
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: like one fucking one fuck up and there back to

755
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: like you are a piece of shit, and I can

756
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: see them doing that.

757
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: The keiki is she stayed with this dude that eventually

758
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: letting you know, eventually people.

759
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: Being like, uh, you stayed with him anyway, I'm a

760
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: stand I'm rooting for you.

761
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm just that, And the other person is like, well,

762
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: you actually don't have an investment in this. You're treating

763
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: me like a mascot.

764
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm harassing you because I don't care about you

765
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: as a person. I don't care if your kid has

766
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: a father. I don't care about that shit. And those

767
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: are concerns she may have that we don't have to have. So,

768
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: you know, anytime the Internet is too fervent on something,

769
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: I always kind of lean back, and I'm a little

770
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: more skeptical and cynical about it because I don't trust

771
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: social media in general, because I just don't view those relationships,

772
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: especially the pair of social ones, as valuable. Like that

773
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: she wore something similar to the hustlers from me here.

774
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: I think more couracious figures get a different response. But

775
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: the death of R and B perspective was fresh and

776
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 2: on point. Rid anyway loved to show me me thank you,

777
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: me me. Gina Gate says, I think Cam was absolutely

778
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: right when she said there are men out here who

779
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: will see your light and get with you and try

780
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: to dim it, if not put it out altogether.

781
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: They are drawn or whatever quality bubbly autistic say, actual energy,

782
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 3: physical or attributes.

783
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: Intelligence, whatever. And then when in a relationship it becomes

784
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: a problem you're doing too much.

785
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 3: And that was for single you.

786
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: I've been there, yes, Roy, it is about control and fear,

787
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: but also about ego. They want the trophy, the beauty,

788
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: their conscience, etc. But there is a fear that someone

789
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: else will try will either try to take you from

790
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: them or you will go elsewhere because you're too ex

791
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: for them.

792
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: And it's sad.

793
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the insecurity.

794
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: That's that.

795
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: Part of that insecurity is shining and not try to

796
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: be funny and not at all situations. But a lot

797
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: of times men get women this quote unquote as people

798
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: say out of their league or they feel they personally

799
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: feel like the person is out of their league when

800
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: that person has a lot and some situations has told

801
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: you there's nothing wrong, I'm not going nowhere. But they

802
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: get in their own heads so they feel like, well,

803
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: I have to do everything because if somebody else sees

804
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: it's like they're gonna yank you with from me, even

805
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: though that person may have done in some situations everything

806
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: they could to tell you it's okay, But if that

807
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: person is not comfortable in their own skin and then

808
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: not comfortable in their own manhood, there's nothing you can do.

809
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: And all narcissists hate themselves like this is something a

810
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: lot of people gloss over in the narcisst thing because

811
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: we're thinking about what they do to us and how

812
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: much we don't like that.

813
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: But it all comes from a place of self.

814
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 4: Hatred, you know.

815
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: And I think you know when you see that type

816
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: of manipulation and control happening, it's ego for sure, it's

817
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: fear for sure, it's entitlement, it's everything you're saying.

818
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: And I think.

819
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: A lot of that stuff is just they have such

820
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: a low opinion of themselves that they're like, internally, why

821
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: is this person with me? It's almost like I have

822
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: to trick them, which is self fulfilling prophecy, right, because

823
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: if you're tricking me, manipulating me, treating me bad, making

824
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: me feel bad about myself.

825
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: For a lot of people it's like, I need to

826
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: get out of this.

827
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: Me up. You're not you're not trusting me, and you're

828
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: not loving me. You're controlling me. You're trying to cage me.

829
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: You're trying to uh, you're trying to you're trying to

830
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: manipulate me. You're being passive aggressive, you're trying to tear

831
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 2: my self esteem down. Who the fuck want to beef

832
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: in a relationship to make them feel like that agreed?

833
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: And when I tell you, everybody goes through this. Everybody

834
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: goes through this, but a lot of people do not

835
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: feel comfortable enough with their mates. This is where the

836
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: communication comes in to talk about it because I remember

837
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: Winter Rogers's best friends Rashida, Uh. They became really close

838
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: and like she went to like uh North Carolina, got

839
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: degrees and all this stuff. And my thing is, I

840
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: remember I had to check my own self because it's

841
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: one of those things where, like you said that, the

842
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: insecurity began to rise within me and me and Roger

843
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: got to sit down and have a conversation. I was like, hey,

844
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, like can we talk about this. I'm feeling

845
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: a certain way you know about this, Like I need

846
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: for you to uh let me know everything is all right,

847
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. After that, we were good

848
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: because I like my execuity rap because in my mind,

849
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: I was like, not tell me funny when you are

850
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: in when the world has fucked you up so bad

851
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: that you think, particularly as a straight woman, that you

852
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: look at the standards and you go, well, I don't

853
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: fit any of these standards. You know this person does.

854
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: Why would my man be with me? Because you know,

855
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: I said, I was like, hey, you know, she's like skinny,

856
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: she educated, she checked all these boxes, you know, and

857
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: I'm not any of that.

858
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: And he was like, hey, I didn't get what I got,

859
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: but you yeah, I'm like, first of all, I'm not coloriss,

860
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: so you can stop that not But seriously, though it

861
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: was you needed reassurance at the moment. But this is

862
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: also why that's a private conversation that we had a

863
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: long time ago. I can't imagine if that's a conversation

864
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 2: we tried to have on the internet.

865
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: Child, if that's a.

866
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: Conversation that we were screenshotting and texting to other people

867
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 2: and they and strangers were seeing it, I can't imagine,

868
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: because in that scenario, you would look bad and people

869
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: would be like, get rid of her.

870
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: She's trash, she's trying to control you.

871
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: And to me, that's why I said, my reaction to

872
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff was not nearly as harsh

873
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: as the most of the internet one, because you know,

874
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 2: the internet is like a place you go to get mad,

875
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, so so you got that, but it's just

876
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: in general, I'm like, I can understand the insecurity and

877
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: it's possible to work those things out, but unlikely, probably

878
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: because you know, especially now that these people are older

879
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: and stuff kind of more setting your ways. But it's

880
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: people have and do relate to the idea of being insecure,

881
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: and people have and do relate to the idea of

882
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: having a mate that has dealt with some insecurities. People

883
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: are compensating, compromising, and loving on each other all the

884
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: time about that shit.

885
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 3: It's not the end of the world. It really doesn't

886
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: have to be.

887
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: But with so much of social media being about optics,

888
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: it's a bad look to have a person do this

889
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: in public and then or in the other press. You know,

890
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: you expose the person, But to do this and to

891
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: do this in a way where it is known and

892
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 2: then you still be with this person like it's.

893
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 3: A bad look because it doesn't you know, the cool

894
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: thing will be I left them a fucking man, I

895
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: don't care. My baby never sees on my mom.

896
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm living for the Internet, and the streets will be

897
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: like yay, but that's not you might not really be

898
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: happy inside with that.

899
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: Shit, you know, right, because it's an individual decision that

900
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: the internet does not have to live with the consequence

901
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: the repercussions of you stand of the consequences, the repercussions

902
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: of you living, and they would turn around and they

903
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: will laugh at your ass, you know, because they actually

904
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: do not care, you know. And it was also, you know,

905
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 1: one of those things kind of after we talked, like Rashida,

906
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: she is the fucking best. I still miss her, Like

907
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: I noty'all funny, I even miss y'all relationship. You know.

908
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: It's like she is like the fucking best, you know.

909
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: But you know, it took me getting outside of my

910
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: own head and my own.

911
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: I'm so like young, A lot of this is young

912
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: people shit, you know, I think, like that's what another

913
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 2: reason I didn't really revel into like as a forty

914
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: five year old man. Let me tell see what I

915
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: would have did. I would have said wait till she

916
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: get home, and I'm like, yeah, because you forty fucking five,

917
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: of course. But when you were twenty five, you didn't

918
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: have that wisdom, and you probably would have done some

919
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: stupid man shit like yell at your girl on Twitter

920
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: because yourself these other niggas in your ear trying to

921
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: make you feel a way about the shot, and you

922
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: would have failed for it like a dummy.

923
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers be stupid at that age.

924
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of humanity that happens in

925
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: front of us, and we're so busy trying to like

926
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: flex on each other with like I would have did

927
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: it like this because I'm perfect and I'm better than you,

928
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: and we end up missing like some very relatable conversations.

929
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: We should be having some human moments back to this

930
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: and head a norment of relationships. I think women do

931
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: this to a certain.

932
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: Extent, but because we don't OBJECTI five men the same

933
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: way they do us. It's more common in men than

934
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: you might think. No, I don't think it's more common.

935
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 3: You might think. I watch Fatal Attraction.

936
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: Every week and listen, it ain't just them in a

937
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: woman's light, you know, it's Motherfuckers are literally killing women

938
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 2: and shit because they get with them and feel like

939
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: I need to control you. You know, this is scary

940
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: motherfucker's out here and and that and the vast majority

941
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 2: of the people that do that are men, and especially

942
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: in that way like there are there might be a

943
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: handful of women that do that ship, but men are

944
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: the fucking harlem globe trotters of that.

945
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 4: That they.

946
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: That type of possessive abuse, men dominating that, you know.

947
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: So I absolutely do.

948
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: I think is very gendered. And I just think because

949
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 3: of how we move through society, how people are forced

950
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: to move.

951
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: When a woman is thinking of changing somebody, it's a

952
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: different type of thing. But it's like the impulse of

953
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna change you because of what it says about

954
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: me is still a It's the same, It just would

955
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: it would play out differently. For like, a woman's not

956
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 2: gonna be like you need to start, you know, don't

957
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: be taking pictures in shorts and grace jogging.

958
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: Parents.

959
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 2: They're not gonna fucking text you that shit, but they

960
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: might text you about some other shit. About that to

961
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: them is more about like how you make me look

962
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: when you do blank, So change this thing that was

963
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: cool when we got together, I didn't mind it, but

964
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: now I need you to be a different motherfucker because

965
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: we together and people are looking at us.

966
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: Right. And it's also one of those things for both

967
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: men and women kind of in that quote unquote controlling,

968
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: and a lot of women come out, like you said,

969
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: from a different angle. It's like potential, I can make

970
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: you better, but a lot of times it's not about

971
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: the other person's about you.

972
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not making this motherfucker better out of altruism

973
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: and charity.

974
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: I'm making you look.

975
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: I want you to look a certain way to everyone

976
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: else because it's gonna reflect back on me.

977
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 3: Correct. That's what the fuck is about, and that's what

978
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 3: the men are doing too.

979
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 2: This is why I wanted to talk about that deeper

980
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: imposts and not the bullshit of like I didn't want

981
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: to talk about the service level shit. I want to

982
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: talk about the deeper level shit. Why do people do

983
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: that in any relationship?

984
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: You know?

985
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: And it's hard to love and accept people as they

986
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: are because they're not you. So whatever it is, you know,

987
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: you either got to learn how to like accept that,

988
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: work on yourself, work on yourself, you.

989
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: Know, Like I think that's hard work if people want

990
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: to do that part, Like.

991
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: I'm an introvert.

992
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: Karen's a extremely extra yes, and we go out and

993
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: you know, if we're we're eating food or something, Karen's

994
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: gonna make a whole production of it to get as

995
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: much attention as possible from the waiter and the people

996
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: sitting in the in the in the across the table

997
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: and all this shit. And if I was in that

998
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 2: restaurant by myself, I pulled my kindle out, I'd ordered

999
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: my shit quietly as possible. If it came wrong, I

1000
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: wouldn't even send it back, and I tip them well

1001
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: and I leave and they probably barely say two words

1002
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: to me.

1003
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: And that would be my ideal restaurant experience. Right. But

1004
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 3: here's what I don't do.

1005
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: I don't go out with Karen. And then Karen does

1006
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 2: her extrovert thing, and I'm.

1007
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 3: Like, can you shut the fuck up? God damn you

1008
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 3: embarrassing the fuck out of me right now? Why can't

1009
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: you just eat your food? Why don't you read your kindle?

1010
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: I don't do that shit because.

1011
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's that's it's an that's it's internal for

1012
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: me to adjust and go. You know what I'm with

1013
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: this woman because that's how she is when we met.

1014
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: She came up and she's speaking to me, she's out

1015
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: going to me, She's nice and friendly to me. Why

1016
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: would I ever want to dim the thing.

1017
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: That made me be in love with this first date?

1018
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: So I was very aggressive, So why so why would

1019
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: I want to dim this person down and make her

1020
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: less happy to to you know what I'm saying? Like that,

1021
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: that power dynamic, it's about control to people, It's about fear.

1022
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: What does it mean to fear?

1023
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen if she interacts with people?

1024
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen? If what does this say about me?

1025
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: That we're being loud at the table right now?

1026
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: Shit like that?

1027
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: That's that, That's that internalized thing that you gotta go

1028
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: to therapy or deal with. But uh but a lot

1029
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: of people don't do that. They weaponize it the other

1030
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: way and they go, I'm going to do as much

1031
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 2: as possible to embarrass you and make you be quiet

1032
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: in public because I don't want to deal with that.

1033
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: And I'm like, now you just got a miserable partner.

1034
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: For what what's the point? Come on?

1035
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: Now?

1036
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: You know what that would make me want to do?

1037
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: About an extrovert, not go out to eat with your ass,

1038
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: come on, you behind somebody you'd.

1039
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: Been like, no, you better find another partner because because, bitch,

1040
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: what you ain't gonna do is tell me to shut

1041
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: the fuck up if I feel like having a five

1042
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: minute conversation with the waitress about bullshit.

1043
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: Right, So, I think, you know, while being mindful of

1044
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: your partner and stuff is definitely part of the equation,

1045
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: the idea of like being so beholden that you're being

1046
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: trampled down is just to me. I don't know why

1047
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: that's attracted to anyone, right, and.

1048
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: It's not fun for either party. You're miserable and miserable.

1049
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: Gina goes on to say, great discussion, though I don't

1050
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: think I tell my husband about this one because it'll

1051
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 2: start an argument.

1052
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: Ah, good luck, Gina.

1053
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: Even he says, I definitely think hey, Key's baby daddy

1054
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: had some dudes in his ear before he made that tweet,

1055
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 2: because he posted picks of her with less than that

1056
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 2: on his social media, especially on his social media, because

1057
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 2: what does that imply a level of ownership? She ain't

1058
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: got no clothes on, But that's my bitch looking him,

1059
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: look at my bitch with no clothes on, niggas, it's

1060
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: about me.

1061
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 3: My ego.

1062
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: Now she's saying us, she's singing to us, she ain't

1063
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: got no clothes on. Now hold up, now, hold up

1064
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 2: the boys in the group chat. And then when he

1065
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: started to double down because his ego was hurt when

1066
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: people went in on him and he was trying to

1067
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: say face.

1068
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: It probably hurt his pride.

1069
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: That people were calling him a nobody, But I'm not

1070
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: sure that he is what he expected when he's with

1071
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: somebody who isn't just just black famous baby.

1072
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: That's Kecky Palmer. Yeah, you know what else it is too.

1073
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: And this is so funny to me because like as

1074
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: woke as everybody claims to be, nobody really is.

1075
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 3: Everybody's full of shit.

1076
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: All your feminists, all your womanists, all your anti capitalists,

1077
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: all your socialists, because these niggas couldn't wait to call

1078
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: him sometimes for every type of broke They could not

1079
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: wait to imply that his value was beneath Keiky Palmer

1080
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: because he was not bringing in enough money.

1081
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 3: Right, That is so funny.

1082
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: It is like I love the dating thing because dating

1083
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: is such is the one place where people's politics don't

1084
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: ever line up like, I don't give a fuck how

1085
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: anti capitalist you is? If somebody like The way people

1086
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: responded to that like ice cream date thing that went

1087
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: viral on Twitter was a twenty.

1088
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: Six year old girl said she did.

1089
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: Girl woman said she didn't want to go on a

1090
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: date with this dude because he was like, you know,

1091
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: we can get some ice cream, and she voted like

1092
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: instead of just saying no, I'm lactose in tolerant like

1093
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: a normal person, she left some paragraph about how she

1094
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: basically was twenty six and she too good for ice

1095
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: cream date, which if you think so fine, you like it,

1096
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: I love it, but it was weird just say no then,

1097
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: and why are you taking the screenshot and posting on

1098
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: social But I just thought it was funny because the

1099
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: people that agree with her, many of them being huge

1100
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: like anti capitalist blah blah blah.

1101
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, how dare you take me on

1102
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: a cheap ice cream date?

1103
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean, it didn't seem like it was

1104
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: like he was propositioning her, like and I'm an fuck right,

1105
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna marry me, bitch?

1106
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: Like it didn't.

1107
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: It just felt like he asked she said no, it's

1108
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: not really a big deal. The paragraph explanation was weird,

1109
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: but the way it the way it made people project

1110
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: onto it was so good the whole week because I

1111
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 2: was like, look at y'all. Dating is the one area

1112
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: we can't escape the patriarchal bullshit and you and people

1113
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: give in to it all the time, like they do

1114
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: as much as they claim to be fighting whatever tooth

1115
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,479
Speaker 2: and nail, they give in to it all the time,

1116
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: just like, no, a man ain't shit if he ain't

1117
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: got a certain amount of money and he can't do

1118
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: this for me and this and buy this.

1119
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 4: And do that.

1120
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 3: And it's like, yeah, so we kind of do believe

1121
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 3: in that shit, even when we say we don't.

1122
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: So we throw out the value of Kiki Farmer's man

1123
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: because he's a full time personal trainer.

1124
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: We don't know, we don't even know his pockets.

1125
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: We're just assuming right that it's not up the Kiki's level.

1126
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: But the way people threw him in the trash for

1127
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: that was so funny to me.

1128
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, because people I'm mess seeing. People are complicated,

1129
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: and people compromise, and you know what, just about everybody

1130
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: underneath the sound of my voice lives in the gray area.

1131
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: But the Internet would tell you everything is black and white.

1132
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: That is not how to how the world functions, and

1133
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: everybody knows it, and we lie to each other all

1134
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: of the time, particularly on social media, when in reality

1135
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people deal with a lot of bullshit

1136
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: that they would go on social media and tell everybody

1137
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: they would not deal with.

1138
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just thought it was I just I love

1139
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: that stuff. I love all the dating hypocrisy.

1140
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: It's the best. It's hard to be the best.

1141
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: We don't believe everybody hates capitalism and everything until it's

1142
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: time to going to date and the capitalism pop up.

1143
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: Everybody hats patrick patriarchy till it's time going to day.

1144
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: You know, I love that joke Earthquake made when we

1145
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: went to see him. It was so funny where he

1146
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: was like talking about dating and saying when he looked

1147
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: at a table for the women that would came out

1148
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 2: to see him, he was like, you know what's funny

1149
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: is with all them being women sitting at that table,

1150
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: they gonna be able to split that check six ways

1151
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: immediately with no problems.

1152
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 3: It was just like, but David was on the date

1153
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 3: with a man boy, it would be a little different.

1154
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: I was like, that's funny anyway, she's a Nicola And

1155
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: I say that not really passive judgment.

1156
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: I say that genuinely. It is amusing to me, Like

1157
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: it's just funny. It's just funny.

1158
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: And if you can't laugh at yourself, I don't know,

1159
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: so good luck dyon if you can't laugh at that shit,

1160
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: it's funny.

1161
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 3: She's a Nickelodeon Disney star, so she's huge.

1162
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 2: I don't think ke Key's dancing with USh at a

1163
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: concert was any extra than what any other Annie would

1164
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: have done. Hell, if it was me, I would have

1165
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 2: been backed that thing up on Usher like I don't

1166
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 2: don't have a care in the world. Yeah, I didn't

1167
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: find it to be like disrespectful me. I mean, I

1168
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: guess you could argue, I don't know, I don't know

1169
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: that relationship like that. I guess you could argue some

1170
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: people might felt disrespect maybe, like the way if you

1171
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: go to a strip club, there's some women that don't

1172
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: want their man to get a lap dance. They feel

1173
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: like that's disrespect, like and woman ain't supposed touch you

1174
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 2: and do that. Okay, you know those couples have to

1175
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 2: work that out. The Normally they don't work it out

1176
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: on Twitter in public, you know, normally they're not making

1177
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: TikTok videos the next day, so good luck to everyone.

1178
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: He posted a few things applying Kiki isn't going anywhere.

1179
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: Maybe she isn't, but we haven't heard from him in days.

1180
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: I think she probably got in his ass. Time would tell.

1181
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: She doesn't seem like the kind of person who would

1182
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: put up with that for long. Yep, who knows, who

1183
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: fucking knows a lot of people seem like some shit

1184
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: and then may be you.

1185
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: Just never know, just never know, only time will yeah,

1186
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 3: you know.

1187
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: As for Jonah Hill, it sounds like he's using therapy

1188
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: words to be manipulative, but the time of tho his

1189
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 2: ex part does seem kind of strange, especially since she

1190
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: he's moved on and she doesn't want him to respond.

1191
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think, listen, this is my thing. I've

1192
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: been watching people fight about this shit all week and

1193
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to me. Either extreme of this scenario is

1194
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 3: fucking crazy to me.

1195
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 2: The extreme where she's just like a she just wants

1196
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: to get famous off of saying she's already a famous server,

1197
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 2: but she just wants to get famous off of calling

1198
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: him out and she's gonna reap some type of reward

1199
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,959
Speaker 2: from the attention of the internet or whatever.

1200
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 3: That feels weird to me that that's all she's in

1201
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 3: it for. It feels weird that he just wanted to

1202
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 3: set some boundaries and listen, he's just letting her know

1203
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 3: where he still. That feels weird to me. To me,

1204
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: it seemed like she was being patty. He just had

1205
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 3: a baby.

1206
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: It really is.

1207
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: Even if that correspondence was manipulative and fucked up, it

1208
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: was private correspondence that she chose to share to make

1209
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: him look a certain way, and she chose, and she

1210
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 2: knew what she was doing, and she knew when she

1211
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: said I'm scared for him to respond, she she knows

1212
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: exactly the light she's painting them in so that he

1213
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 2: lose lose situation.

1214
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: It's it's damned if you do, are damned if you don't.

1215
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: Damn did you respond? It damned if you don't respond.

1216
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's supposed to not he's supposed to not say

1217
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: anything or present any evidence or anything on his side.

1218
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: Because there's also hints in the text messages that some

1219
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: that she may have done some things. If you read

1220
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: the between the lines where he says like, you know

1221
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: this is because of your actions blah blah blah, so

1222
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: like I don't know, but I'm just this is a

1223
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: a uh, this is a.

1224
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 3: Hypothetical if the thing he was alluding to what he says.

1225
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: Listen, the reason I've drawn these boundaries because of your

1226
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: actions and how they've done d da da.

1227
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: And the thing was she was cheating on him.

1228
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: Of course she don't want him responding and sharing that

1229
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: part of the conversation like, well, you cheated on me,

1230
00:57:59,240 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: and that's.

1231
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 3: Why I felt so insecure, and then people would flip back.

1232
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons I don't trust going

1233
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 2: to the internet as a source of justice. The only

1234
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: reason the people on the internet believe that that shit

1235
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 2: is justice is because it fees our importance and our ego,

1236
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: ourself importance to make us think we are the arbiters

1237
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: of justice. By harassing and haranguing celebrities online, we start

1238
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: acting like we're the fucking like heroes of the situation,

1239
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 2: like look, I'm calling Jonah Hill a piece of shit.

1240
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: Fat boy, and it's and it's balancing the scales of justice, right.

1241
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: We don't have no evidence ain't no courts involved. Right,

1242
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: That is not the same.

1243
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: It's just my point being like when someone goes to

1244
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: the public opinion thing, and especially to say this is

1245
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: about trying to warn the next woman niggas she just

1246
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: had a fucking baby with the guy. Correct, If it

1247
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: was about warning him, it's a little too fucking late

1248
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: for that shit. So so so, like I'm capable of

1249
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: believing she is a victim of his manipulation, being a

1250
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: piece of shit boyfriend, being a controlling asshole, being insecure,

1251
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: being miserable.

1252
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: I am.

1253
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: I am capable of holding two things at once. She

1254
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: is a person who has been dealing with this nigga

1255
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: and it's been terrible. She is also possibly taking a

1256
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: shot at him at a sensitive time and manipulating public

1257
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: opinion about him on fucking.

1258
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 3: Purpose for no real for no real reason other than

1259
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: fuck him.

1260
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: Right, both can be true, and when you try to

1261
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: tell people both could be true, they look at you

1262
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: like something is wrong.

1263
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just everyone's on one extreme.

1264
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: Or the other, and I'm just like, I don't know,

1265
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: it's probably in the middle. Like he seemed like a

1266
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: He seemed like a douche for doing all that shit.

1267
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: I also think, you know, we get very liberal with

1268
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: the term abuse. I'll say it again, Sarah Schauman, Conflict

1269
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: is not abuse.

1270
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: It's just such a great book.

1271
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 2: It changed the way I look at the way everybody

1272
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 2: talks about stuff now, and how quick we try to

1273
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,479
Speaker 2: run to certain buzz where it's to shut down critical thought,

1274
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: to shut down nuanced, to shut down conversation. I refuse

1275
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: to take part in that shit. Man, it's fucking stifling.

1276
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 2: But it's also not true. There's a lot of steps

1277
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 2: between like this dude being an asshole and abuse, you

1278
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Maybe he was abusive. I'm not

1279
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: saying he's not, But what I read wasn't like, oh man,

1280
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 2: this guy's abusive. I was reading that like, this guy's

1281
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: an insecure, manipulative, controlling ass boyfriend. It's to me different

1282
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 2: than abuse, as fucked up as that is, it's different

1283
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: than abuse. It's the same way I thought when Offset

1284
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: cheated on Cardi and everybody's like, it's abuse. I'm like,

1285
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: I know, people cheat not necessarily the same as abusing somebody.

1286
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: We want to call it that because we can then

1287
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: shut down all critical thought and it just becomes an

1288
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 2: angry power on either you either down with this or

1289
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 2: you not down with this. And if you and if

1290
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: you say anything a step away from like I don't

1291
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: know if cheating is abused, well, nigga, you just let

1292
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 2: people abuse you, Okay, So we were fine with be tina.

1293
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 3: You know, it's like, nigga, what is happening right now?

1294
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: Right?

1295
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: And they do that to derail the conversation, Like you said,

1296
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: they also do that to erase critical thinking. And also

1297
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where, particularly on the Internet,

1298
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: it's the energy when it comes to the anger mob

1299
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: or the hate mom, and they don't want people sucking

1300
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: up the vibe. Like that's the truth when you come

1301
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Speaker 1: in being reasonable and rational and using critical thinking and

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Speaker 1: getting it like really tapping into the empathy part of

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Speaker 1: yourself and actually be an adult like this shit in

1304
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: this cut is dry and you start coming with facts

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01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: and then a logical and shit, they're like, nigga, you

1306
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: fucking up the party. We want to be angry. Ain't

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01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: nobody trying to be reasonable right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And I think that's really what happened. And like I said,

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Speaker 2: I think the extremes of that conversation were just weird

1310
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: to me. And more best, honestly, more about the people's

1311
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 2: in securities talking about the shit, sir.

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01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 3: Maybe here's a huge piece of shit.

1313
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: But I think when someone releases text message, they need

1314
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: to be prepared for the other person released their own.

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Speaker 4: Set of texts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm so like man, maybe I'm the only

1317
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 2: person feeling like this, right, not only person, but maybe

1318
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 2: there's a small group of us or a growing group of.

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01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,959
Speaker 3: Us, and it's just not a public conversation we're having.

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01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm tired of being used, man, your sir.

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01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: Like, sometimes I just look around at the conversations happen

1322
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: online on like y'all ain't tired of.

1323
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: This, the same conversations over and over again.

1324
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: Like y'all ain't tired of motherfucker's releasing half a story

1325
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: and then you go off half cock and then we

1326
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: find out the full story later and we be like, damn,

1327
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: you can't take back all that shit we said, you

1328
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: know what I know.

1329
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: And the biggest reason why is because that feeds something

1330
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: within themselves. I know.

1331
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: But like, why aren't you Why aren't you tired of it?

1332
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: That's the real question, is like no, no, no, this

1333
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: is a rhetorical question. I'm not asking for you to answer.

1334
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying you human being who is always looking from

1335
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: one fire to the next with these fucking celebrities or

1336
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 2: this discussion online or this reddit thread, or am I

1337
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 2: an asshole or whatever it is you need to fight about.

1338
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: Why haven't you stopped and looked at yourself and been like,

1339
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: why do I need that? Cause I that's the thing

1340
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: I looked at for myself, was like, why do I

1341
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: need to fucking be mad at Jonah Hill or Kiki Palmer's. Man,

1342
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: I don't know these niggas and I don't care, And

1343
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers might end up staying together, getting back together whatever,

1344
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: It will have no effect on my life. But for

1345
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 2: a week on the internet, I need everybody know I'm

1346
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: a good boy. I'm a good boy. Guys, I would

1347
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: never talk to my wife like that.

1348
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 3: Nigga, you shouldn't be like, there's no reward. There's no

1349
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 3: reward for that.

1350
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: So anyway, Heavyweight says and Karen's defense that the rail

1351
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: show is a real thing. Famous YouTuber Terrell Grice does

1352
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 2: an interview show in a mix with the song Association Game.

1353
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 2: If you want to know who the sang and ass

1354
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: singers of the Day are like Shalaiah, Avery Wilson and

1355
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: Tomorrow Joy. It's a must watch.

1356
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 3: Good call care.

1357
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: I like that show and I don't know how I

1358
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: ran across the show, probably through one of my Facebook algorithms,

1359
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: and I've been hooked ever since. And he has some

1360
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: super super famous people on there. He had Kelly Clarkson

1361
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: on there and she was fucking huh hilarious, Like it

1362
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: was a ball because the way he does his shows,

1363
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: it allows these celebrities to have fun outside of a

1364
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: normal element, but they're still comfortable, but they're a lot

1365
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: more relaxed around him, just because he's just such a

1366
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: great job of breaking that wall and breaking that barrier

1367
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: and a lot of times not always a lot of

1368
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: times to get people that can like sang I'm not

1369
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: like they can blue And so the game is really

1370
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: fun because he'll ASTs him like he'll throw a word

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: and have them go through their discography and go through

1372
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: their mind be like he'd be like, what is the

1373
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: song with the word anything? Get it and give them

1374
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: ten seconds and then they'll just sing and it is

1375
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: so much fun, and he kind of interviews them through

1376
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: the process, so you'll lure of things about these celebrities

1377
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: that you otherwise wouldn't know because it's not a structured

1378
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: I ask you a question, you give me as an

1379
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: ask your question, you give me as the type of thing.

1380
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of fun.

1381
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think at the time, I just had

1382
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 2: the caution because Karen will say stuff with such confidence

1383
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: and be wrong.

1384
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: I will, yeah that I.

1385
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 3: Had to be like, I don't know.

1386
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: So if y'all gonna go google the Terrell Show and

1387
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 2: some something else come up, please don't, please don't hit

1388
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: me up and be like cause sometimes y'all all write

1389
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: up here real disrespectfully, like Rod, you let care be wrong.

1390
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know everything.

1391
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: She'd just be saying shit. Sometimes it's just gonna slide through.

1392
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: So I'm glad she was right, but I always had

1393
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 2: to throw out the disclaimer.

1394
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, blame your break got this because I

1395
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: know how my memory is.

1396
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 3: I'm talking to the audience, not you. I know you understand.

1397
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: And yes, you know we do Keith and the Girl

1398
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: every week, and Karen fucks up the names of the

1399
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 2: comedians even though we just literally heard their names.

1400
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: On the show.

1401
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 2: And she her job, she knows her job is to

1402
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 2: say the comedians' names every week and on last week,

1403
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 2: and to keep the girl. She fucks them up every week,

1404
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 2: and I don't know why, but I've learned to not

1405
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 2: be relying on that and be like, maybe it's a

1406
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: Terreil show. I hope everything's right. We're rolling the dice

1407
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 2: and I'm glad. Y'all wrote in to confirm that it

1408
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: was indeed correct. We got some comments on the YouTube

1409
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: for this episode, y'all. Funny says, Sayita put your enner

1410
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: John Q's in the air, wave them like mega trying

1411
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: don't care, says Hugh Love. Sometimes is taking the plate

1412
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: from the counter and leaving it in a parking spot.

1413
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 2: My mom says, great nuance conversation, Thanks Mom, yez. And

1414
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: then the poll was Who's worst? Jonah Hill and Daris

1415
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 2: Jackson me I think Darius fifty to fifty on our

1416
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: website and on Spotify Jonah Hill sixty one percent, Derrick

1417
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 2: Jackson thirty nine percent.

1418
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 3: So nobody thought it was worse.

1419
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: Or not.

1420
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 3: The inn posy he wasn't worse. There goes to parking space.

1421
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 3: Was the Q and a.

1422
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: If? Mister Mick says, adjust coofy got a circle the

1423
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 2: lot at least two more times. My brother, It's not

1424
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: just about finding the closest spot. It's about establishing dominance.

1425
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 3: I don'tly know what that means.

1426
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 2: Aaron says, I've never been in a relationship, but with

1427
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 2: Jonah Hill, Kicky's baby daddy and all these TikTok clips

1428
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: of people in couples therapy, I'm like, this is what

1429
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: the people want. No thanks, hell well, I'm good right.

1430
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: They do make relationships look miserable with this content. My god,

1431
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 2: I guess happiness don't really go viral.

1432
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 5: It don't.

1433
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: Happeness is boring. Happiness don't get a TV show. Happiness

1434
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: ain't on love and hip hop. Like people that are like,

1435
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm happy, I'm not insecure. If I have these insecurities,

1436
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 1: I don't how to talk about it. Child, I ain't

1437
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: a TV.

1438
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, people like mass Keisher says, and I don't know

1439
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: how to drive lo l and Keenan says. Happy opter

1440
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: this prime day, you got to touch you got the power,

1441
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, brother. All right, we didn't get any voicemails,

1442
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 2: but we do have some emails. All right, all right,

1443
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: I'd love to see it. Of course, you know how

1444
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 2: to email us the Blackout tips at gmail dot com

1445
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 2: is an email address.

1446
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 3: You know, make sure y'all holler at you at the

1447
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 3: player when you see them in the streets.

1448
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 2: And also, oh I meant to say, let me just

1449
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 2: tell y'all. Now, save the date right on your calendar.

1450
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: Start thinking about what you're gonna be doing. Uh, September the.

1451
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 3: Ninth, September ninth.

1452
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we're gonna be doing a live show in Charlotte,

1453
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 2: North Carolina at the bloom and Thal Center for Performing Arts.

1454
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 2: You know, if you've been there before, then you guys

1455
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: know the venue and all that stuff. If you haven't

1456
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 2: been there before, come on through. Tickets aren't on sale yet,

1457
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 2: we'll let you know and all that stuff it's taken

1458
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 2: care of. We're gonna try to make sure we have

1459
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 2: like a virtual option to for cickets, but that may

1460
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 2: not be on sale till later after, you know, because

1461
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,919
Speaker 2: you're trying to sell as many in person tickets as possible.

1462
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: But we're gonna be part of this comedy festival that

1463
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 2: is happening in Charlotte that week, and we love to

1464
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 2: see y'all faces out there, or if.

1465
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 3: You're masked up, we love to see you in a mask.

1466
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 3: We don't care no judgment in our in our in

1467
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 3: our zone.

1468
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, so just give you a little heads up

1469
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: because some of y'all keep writing and asking us about it.

1470
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 3: All right, now, let's go to the to the emails.

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01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 3: David Wright said, Mary Poppins Riding, Karen, I heard on.

1472
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 2: The last podcast you are fans of musicals, but said

1473
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: you weren't familiar with some of them. As it happens,

1474
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: one of the music is you mentioned Mary Poppins being

1475
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 2: before in North Carolina Theater, Raleigh in two weeks. I'd

1476
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 2: write you to come see it. Please let me know

1477
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: if that's something you'd be interested in. I'd be happy

1478
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 2: to secure.

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01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 3: Tickets for you. Cheers David. Oh, David, that is very

1480
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 3: nice of you.

1481
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 2: I don't think I won't drive the roller to see

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01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 2: a play, but I appreciate you, all right, No like no,

1483
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 2: no like. That is a sweet I don't want you

1484
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: to get it confused.

1485
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 3: That is a very sweet thing, and very appreciative of it.

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01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: Clara Wright said, possible effing with black people entry high

1487
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 2: Rod and Karen. I'm not sure if this counts is

1488
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 2: messing with black people entry, but I'm submitting Anyway, I

1489
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 2: was scrolling through the target at when I saw this

1490
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: Gatorade drink and this Gatorade fast Twitch.

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01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 3: I've seen this commercial many times fast Twitch. Mm hm,

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 3: m hm is it maked twitch?

1493
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 2: What is this fast Twitched by Gatorade? It's an energy

1494
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 2: drink twelve ounces?

1495
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 3: She said.

1496
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 2: God admit I chuckled when I saw it, but I

1497
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: do feel a bit messed with. What do y'all think?

1498
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 3: Well, I've been making a joke on social media about

1499
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 3: this for a long time. When I first start a.

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01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: Commercial, I said, I said, we owe Jimmy the Greek

1501
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 2: an apology, don't we We got this man about the paint.

1502
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 2: We're talking about them fast Twitch muscles.

1503
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 3: And here here we y'all.

1504
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 2: A few decades later, Gatorade, this one fucker literally selling

1505
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: fast Twitch.

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01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 3: That is so crazy to me. Uh so, yeah, that's

1507
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 3: that is some some good, good old fashion sism. Doesn't

1508
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 3: really make me feel fun with, but it is funny.

1509
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 3: I give it like a twenty five uh cam would

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01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 3: you score it?

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01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: Uh? You know what actually is z bro? Because I

1512
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: don't even think I would have made the connection, like, oh,

1513
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: that's some energy drink that just made a name Okay,

1514
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,560
Speaker 1: twitching is tweaking. I'm old, So that's the route I

1515
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: have been down.

1516
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know how we made it full

1517
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 2: circle on the turn fast Twitch. But here we are

1518
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: and they have a full commercial black people was in

1519
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 2: it running and shit too.

1520
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 3: I was like, oh wow, we just really going.

1521
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't make the connection because I wouldn't have

1522
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:18,799
Speaker 1: made the connection.

1523
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 3: I definitely did.

1524
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 2: Lastly, cast always writes saying black History. Hey, Karen and Rodd,

1525
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 2: I enjoyed your discussion on learning black history and culture

1526
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,799
Speaker 2: in different avenues. My mom was super intentional on promoting

1527
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: black history, culture, and literature. I am an eighties baby

1528
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: who had a cart full of barbies and another set

1529
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: full of baby dolls, all black. I truly don't know

1530
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 2: what a feat that was, and didn't know what the

1531
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 2: feat that was until hearing others my age talk about

1532
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,640
Speaker 2: how they never had black dolls, or only one or

1533
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: two because they were too hard to find. I had

1534
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 2: so many black novels growing up, and when we went

1535
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: to the library, we were steered towards black books.

1536
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: Yeah because and as the adult, I understand this, but

1537
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: as a kid, it was this big thing where one

1538
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: of my relatives was buying a child black baby dolls,

1539
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: and they was like, my baby gonna do black baby dolls.

1540
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: I ain't, they flowsid, I'm not buying no white baby

1541
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: dolls like that was their thing, and other family members do.

1542
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: They just cannot understand that concept. Then why would you

1543
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: do that, Like, just go buy the other baby doll? Like,

1544
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: why are you going out of your way to, you know,

1545
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: get these black baby dolls when there's other baby dolls

1546
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: that just fine? She was like, y'all this more than

1547
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: it's not just a fucking baby dollar. It's more to

1548
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: it than just I got you something to play with it.

1549
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: It can fuck children up. They had this conversation like

1550
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: decades ago when I was smaller, and like a huge

1551
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: conversation about it. And now I go, oh, I understand

1552
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 1: why they did that. It's easier now because of the Internet,

1553
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: Like you can literally go and be like black baby dolls,

1554
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, and you can have that shit ship to

1555
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: your house and you don't have to go to towards

1556
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 1: US and all these other mainstream places because now people

1557
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: can specialize shit just for you.

1558
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I didn't know until very recent.

1559
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 2: I mean there's and there's that historical you know study

1560
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: with the black girls and the baby dolls, and and

1561
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 2: I mean it's heartbreaking to watch beautiful little black children

1562
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, not wanting a black doll because

1563
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: it's ugly, you know. And it tells you a lot

1564
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 2: about colorism, racism, misogyny, and it tells you so much

1565
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 2: about our society and how people value and don't value themselves.

1566
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 3: And because of the things we are taught, not things

1567
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 3: that you know, things that I learned, not things that

1568
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 3: are innate to us. Yeah, I know.

1569
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: So I remember too, them having as a child, them

1570
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: having a conversation about giving little girls baby dolls all together,

1571
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: like one of my runtives. She was like, Yeah, I'm

1572
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: not gonna put a baby doll in my child's hand,

1573
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: in my little girl's hand, I'm gonna do other shit.

1574
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: I'd rather put like a Bunsen burner and like painting

1575
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: all these other shit. Like like the whole goal isn't

1576
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: the quote unquote teacher how to be a mom and

1577
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: take care of a fucking doll. Like if that's something

1578
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: that they choose to do, that's fine, But I'm not

1579
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: going to quote unquote force this upon them. I'm gonna

1580
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: let them and allow them to make that decision on

1581
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: their own.

1582
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: I didn't know until very recently that black fiction readers

1583
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: didn't believe they could find black fiction outside of urban

1584
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: fiction or black trauma stories aside. I'm not even sure

1585
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: we use trauma in the same way. Some are including

1586
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: stories with black characters who experience conflict having nothing to

1587
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 2: do with blackness as black trauma, which is weird because who.

1588
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 3: Is reading any book with any character without conflict?

1589
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 4: Yo.

1590
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 2: Right, the internalized anti blackness and racial paranoia.

1591
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 3: While I'm empathetic to it, it is a real hindrance to.

1592
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 2: A lot of critical thinking and critical thought in the

1593
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 2: process is that when we want to have these discussions,

1594
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 2: it's you know, It's one of the reasons I don't

1595
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 2: really do a lot of media analysis. With the way

1596
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: that people do criticism and stuff these days, I don't

1597
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: like it because a lot of times it's an internalized

1598
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 2: that you make the artist problem.

1599
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 3: But it's you.

1600
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 2: It's you sit You sat up there and put the

1601
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 2: black characters in a box and you decided that somehow

1602
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: snowfall is not racial trauma but underground is.

1603
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 3: And to me, I don't understand.

1604
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 2: You just need to have an internal conversation with why

1605
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: one of why only one of those council is quote

1606
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 2: unquote setting us back And you don't want to see

1607
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 2: those stories on TV no more.

1608
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 3: But you love the.

1609
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 2: Wire and you love Snowfall, and you love Empire, you

1610
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,600
Speaker 2: love you know, like, it's interesting where we draw the

1611
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 2: line on shit, and it's not neat. And I understand

1612
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: why people get to those conclusions, but your conclusions don't

1613
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 2: always get to govern everything for everyone else.

1614
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,839
Speaker 3: That's just your motherfucking opinion.

1615
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:50,799
Speaker 1: Agree.

1616
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 2: Anyways, I appreciate Karen noting how that intentionality is something

1617
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 2: many don't have.

1618
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 3: I can imagine this overwhelman.

1619
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: Being hit with so much and fully understanding what it

1620
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: means is adult folks come to Black history in so

1621
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,440
Speaker 2: many different ways, and we have to be those avenues.

1622
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 3: I guess a where those avenues. Maybe.

1623
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 2: I love that Black creators are putting our history in

1624
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 2: their work, whether it's the center of the story or

1625
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 2: background context. It makes us Black and other think and

1626
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 2: find the truth. That's why the attack on even or

1627
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 2: or even even a hint of it is so intense.

1628
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1629
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And also I think for me growing up and

1630
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 1: the way history and the past was taught to me

1631
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: kind of like Rogerck said, you have your preproved Negroes

1632
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: and we watch Ouz on the Prize like so we

1633
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: really I expect me really didn't get to know a lot.

1634
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 1: And I always hated history because the ship was boring,

1635
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: it was nothing entertaining. And then you fuck about these

1636
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: white men and you fuck about them forefathers. You give

1637
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: me some answers and I spit it back to you

1638
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: on the abcde It was like there was nothing about

1639
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,600
Speaker 1: this that kept my attention, and I, no, I'm not

1640
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 1: the only child. It's like, the fuck is this? I

1641
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: guess I go through it because I'm forced to be here.

1642
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think it's interesting because like we can

1643
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,879
Speaker 2: interrogate those things ourselves, and once you're not a child anymore,

1644
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: you have so much freedom to go explore this stuff

1645
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: and people choose not to agree, and so at that point,

1646
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: it's on you that you don't know this stuff. It's

1647
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 2: on you that like to keep that same mindset from

1648
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: being like a middle schooler to being a grown ass

1649
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 2: adult and being like, well it's so boring or whatever.

1650
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: It's like, no, it's really not.

1651
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 2: And a lot of times the shit you're learning you're

1652
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: fascinated by. You listen to a podcast and you learn,

1653
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: you're like, god, damn that happened. Oh you watch a documentary,

1654
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 2: what the fuck you watch? You're watching Watchman and you're like,

1655
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 2: that was what the Tulsa massacre was. And it's like, yeah,

1656
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 2: it's not really boring. It's just there's a level of

1657
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: emotional that I think some people are trying to avoid.

1658
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: And I'm not This is not a knock on them

1659
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 2: for trying to avoid it, but they're using that to

1660
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: be the excuse for Oh no, it's just this is

1661
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 2: just that we're older now, we do know better. We

1662
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 2: can't learn, we can't go find those things we don't

1663
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 2: want to for whatever reason we don't want to. And

1664
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 2: I think what ends up happening is the black creative

1665
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: is the one who carries the toll and gets blamed

1666
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: and pilloried for not being afraid. Like it's like, how

1667
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 2: you gonna make me do? I'm not making you watch

1668
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 2: the show dog? Why y'all only want to talk about slavery.

1669
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't only want to talk about slavery, but this

1670
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 2: is the only one you pay attention to. It get

1671
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: mad about like, I've been doing other things too, but

1672
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 2: you weren't checking those out as hard.

1673
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 3: And this is the one thing you're trying to keep

1674
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 3: me from talking about.

1675
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 2: And I don't understand because we know what happens in

1676
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: the absence of us owning and discussing our history and

1677
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 2: talking about it with our fingers.

1678
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 3: We know what happens.

1679
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: And also, this is the thing. It's okay, so like this,

1680
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: if you know that you don't want to watch it,

1681
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: that's fine. The problem that a lot of people have this, y'all,

1682
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: motherfucker's out the most vocal. The people that don't watch

1683
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: the shit, the people that don't support the ship, the

1684
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: people that that that that that that that that will

1685
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: praise people for doing it, but then talk about like

1686
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: I ain't watch it. Y'all are the fucking loudest, Like

1687
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 1: these artists could exist and there a ram and do

1688
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,560
Speaker 1: their own shit without you being the fucking loudest. The

1689
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: people that like it and enjoy it will watch it.

1690
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: But the people that are like I don't watch the shit.

1691
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: You don't want the shit to exist. You won't say

1692
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 1: you don't want the shit to exist, but your actions

1693
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: show that you don't want the shit to exist because

1694
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: like you right, just say, they can do tons other shit,

1695
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 1: fucking crookedst the second they talk about this, it triggers

1696
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: something within these people and they have an obligation to

1697
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: feel like they have to shut the ship down.

1698
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: And I just think Caz really nails it when she

1699
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: says that people will take any conflict a black character

1700
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 2: black protagonists has and then they'll label it black trauma.

1701
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 2: And like we saw that a lot with like Insecure,

1702
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 2: where like Insecure, I love that show, the characters have conflict,

1703
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 2: but they're not necessarily all racial conflicts. They're mostly just

1704
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 2: interpersonal conflicts amongst friends and family and stuff like that,

1705
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 2: you know, the slight hints towards racial conflicts every once

1706
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 2: in a while. And yet you have people being like,

1707
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm so tired of black shows having trauma, and you're like,

1708
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 2: what what.

1709
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,799
Speaker 3: Do you mean? You just want to show it, no conflict,

1710
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 3: no states. That's ridiculous.

1711
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: And my thing is trauma is trauma. And I think

1712
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: sometimes trauma does happen because you black, everybody knows this, right,

1713
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: but sometimes trauma happened because it's just fucking life.

1714
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 3: Well, also, you're writing a story, right, there's gonna be conflicts.

1715
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 3: It's just and so to.

1716
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: Label every conflict of trauma and then to label all

1717
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: trauma black because.

1718
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 3: The characters are black, and then go, why do we

1719
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 3: got to have black trauma? Nigga? If you were watching

1720
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 3: girl Girls.

1721
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 2: If you were watching Sex in the City, you'd still

1722
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: be watching conflict and stuff, but you wouldn't be calling

1723
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 2: it black trauma because just because of the race of

1724
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 2: the characters, not because of the storylines. M Anyway, I

1725
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: learned a lot of Black history from books, but nonfiction.

1726
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: It was black romance novels like I love a spicy book,

1727
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 2: but also I'm going to spend an hour go research.

1728
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to spend an hour go research and

1729
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 2: reconstruction era death books and the black ladies spot man

1730
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: character was searching for when she met the love interest

1731
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 2: true story. I found out the white nationalist orgs in

1732
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 2: the eighteen seventies had actual books of notable black politicians

1733
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: and leaders marked for death and books floating around the

1734
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 2: South from a romance novel, several people on the list

1735
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 2: were murdered. I imagine that is how many folks get

1736
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: their curiosity get when their curiosity from an HBO show

1737
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 2: led them to find it out to Tulsa.

1738
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 3: Masacare was a real event. That's true. Telling our stories

1739
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 3: outside the form of that in the school has.

1740
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: Always been important and will even be more important with

1741
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,879
Speaker 2: the attack on polar education. A room for all the podcast,

1742
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: movies after the strike, books, songs, poems, anything that will

1743
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 2: keep our stories alive and our voice in our voice. Congrats,

1744
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 2: don't drect the maniacs ride hope, y'all have a great week.

1745
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you baby. And it's also for me,

1746
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: it's one of those things to when Roger kind of

1747
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: talk about this and I understand and I have empathy

1748
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: that it's coming from a place of traumatizing for traumatiz

1749
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: you know, being traumatized, and it's coming from a place

1750
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: of white supremacy. But it's very, very frustrating when most

1751
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 1: of us know the importance, particularly of as certain that

1752
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: you know the importance of learning back history, you know

1753
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: the importance of being educated on this, You know the importance,

1754
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: But then you turn around and you do the same

1755
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: thing that that that that the mag of people and

1756
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: the people that don't want it like your actions are

1757
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 1: the same, because the end result is that you don't

1758
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: want to dare. They don't want their children feeling bad.

1759
01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: You don't want you.

1760
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 3: Ron sat this would also love for you not to

1761
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 3: know about the Tulsa.

1762
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 1: Masker, right, So it's like so so both parties. The

1763
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: gold is the same, even though black people don't look

1764
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: at it like that. But that is a problem. It's

1765
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: a percentage of people that goes I don't want to

1766
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: run my history. I don't want to feel bad, you know,

1767
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 1: even though you would have you're the victim. Now you

1768
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: know your people the victim, but you know, you go

1769
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: through this thing and this is their way of navigating

1770
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: a fucked up world or white supremacy in our country.

1771
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: But it does not behoove and benefit anybody to have

1772
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: a stupid ass population that has no idea. These conflicts

1773
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: happen because you know why, this is how you can

1774
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: have the Supreme Court strike down the fromative action and

1775
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 1: everybody like this bullshit is fucking brand new because nobody

1776
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: knows their history.

1777
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they want it that way. And

1778
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: it's just you have to be cognizant of stuff. I

1779
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: think a little bit deeper, a little bit more critically,

1780
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 2: and you have to be intentional about it.

1781
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not saying everybody got to pick

1782
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 3: up a book. I'm not shaming anybody. I'm not yelling

1783
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,680
Speaker 3: at y'all or anything like that.

1784
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: I think it's internalized when you receive it that way,

1785
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 2: because I'm talking the same way I would want someone

1786
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 2: to talk to me about the stuff. I'm just informing

1787
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 2: people that is out there. I'm informing people they don't

1788
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 2: have to be ashamed of it, and that there's nothing

1789
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 2: to run from here. And uh, and you're not weak

1790
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 2: or bad for being like I don't want to learn

1791
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 2: these things, but understand that that there is a American

1792
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 2: there's an American problem.

1793
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 3: There's a there's something that is that is being like, uh,

1794
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:41,560
Speaker 3: what do you call it?

1795
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 2: Promoted to make sure that we don't learn these things,

1796
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 2: you know, and also, like to be honest, A lot

1797
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 2: of the stuff I was so happy to learn was

1798
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 2: I learned about resistance. That's the main thing they don't

1799
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 2: teach you in the schools. They don't mind teaching you

1800
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 2: about some of the like more tragic things that happen

1801
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,600
Speaker 2: because there's like a subtext and the undercurrent of like

1802
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 2: stay in your place and this won't happen to you,

1803
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 2: but I love reading the stories of like revolutions. One

1804
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 2: of my Draped the Maniac stories is about a ReLU

1805
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: of revolt and I can't wait for y'all to hear it.

1806
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 3: It's gonna be so good.

1807
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 2: I think you know some like stories of the Google

1808
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 2: wiki Joe Pullam if y'all get a chance, that story

1809
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 2: is of bananas.

1810
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

1811
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 2: There was a sniper I've read about just not too

1812
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 2: long ago, about this dude that got drummed out of

1813
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 2: the army and just went full black national and got

1814
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 2: them a gun and start fucking everybody up and shooting

1815
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 2: nothing but cops.

1816
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: And ship like it was crazy.

1817
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 2: And it's just no one's teaching those stories because they

1818
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 2: it's resistance, it's anger, it's violence. They would rather teach

1819
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 2: us MLK march peacefully and was killed like Jesus for

1820
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 2: our sins, Like that's what they that's the story or

1821
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 2: is they do want us to know? And that's the

1822
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: preapproved negroes as you were saying, But then we have

1823
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 2: every resource at our fingertips and we still aren't going

1824
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 2: out and being like, well, let me go learn about

1825
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 2: the non preapproved negroes on my own. Why I got

1826
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:19,600
Speaker 2: away for a class or someone to take me to

1827
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 2: the library. I can do that shit my fucking self.

1828
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, and now it's easy than ever because you

1829
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: have the Internet, like, you have tools that we didn't

1830
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 1: have decades ago. And so it's also one of the

1831
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: things too, where and you don't always have to read

1832
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: the book like right said, it's all types of documentaries

1833
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: and podcasts, like it's all types of ways to get

1834
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 1: this information. Well, these people have done the research, they

1835
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: have fact checked, so the information you getting is accurate.

1836
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 1: But I think because of just the way the system

1837
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 1: is is not. It just fucks people up and people

1838
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: just don't know how to handle it and how to

1839
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: process it, Like it's very hard for an adult to

1840
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: talk to a child about this shit and they haven't

1841
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: navigated how they felt themselves.

1842
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 3: Yes, and another story, the story I was talking about

1843
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 3: with that sniper is Mark essex ees s e X.

1844
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 3: Look up that wiki. This is motherfucker was a menace.

1845
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: But what I was about to say, and also when

1846
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: you talk about resistance, yes, like you say, they rather

1847
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: teach it, like you say, the he was a good

1848
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: neighbord that got killed and turn their other cheek then

1849
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 1: to teach that, and they rather say stupid shit, like

1850
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: all slaves was happy in all this bullshit. Then the

1851
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,759
Speaker 1: teachers like, no, these slaves wasn't happy. These slaves revolted,

1852
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: these slaves run away. These slaves was like, you will

1853
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 1: kill me before you put me back again. They don't

1854
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: want that, because if people start getting that, they go, oh,

1855
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: y'all might get quote unquote small enough to actually start

1856
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 1: rebelling against the system and realize how fucked up and

1857
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 1: foil the system is, and history will repeat itself quote unquote, Well,

1858
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,839
Speaker 1: we'll have to deal with the shit that our ancestors

1859
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,919
Speaker 1: have to deal with these quote unquote ungrateful and unhappy

1860
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: negroes that we quote unquote gave everything I ain't too,

1861
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden they're ungrateful and trying

1862
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: to tell us what to do and voting us at

1863
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: our office and all this bullshit. They don't want that.

1864
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: And on top of that, the way they do it now,

1865
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: they go, oh, since y'all want to be so corner

1866
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: quote smore, we'll take the books at the school, We'll

1867
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 1: take the books at the library. We'll squb it off

1868
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: the internet so they won't shit. Well, even if you

1869
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: find out about it, you quote unquote can't go and

1870
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,799
Speaker 1: get it like you used to be aware.

1871
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, like I said, man, take it upon yourselves

1872
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 3: if it's something that moves you. All this stuff is

1873
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 3: out there.

1874
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: There's so many black people writing books, so many shows,

1875
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:33,480
Speaker 2: so many documentaries.

1876
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 3: You can go, you don't.

1877
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: You can filter your own way through and learn if

1878
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 2: you want to, and if you don't want to. You're

1879
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 2: not less black. You're not a bad black person. I'm

1880
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 2: not calling you the problem or any of that. And

1881
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't want anybody to hear that when they hear

1882
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 2: us talk about that, because that's not what's being said.

1883
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 2: We only people we want to be ashamed of themselves

1884
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: as people that eat Arby's all right, y'all.

1885
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 3: We'll be back. We'll be act later throughout the wig.

1886
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 3: Until then, I love you.

1887
01:29:58,280 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: I love it too, Ah,