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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five, Horny Cody five fifty.

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Speaker 4: And the kick as Block the college fuckball stunner. Oh

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Speaker 4: my godness, he stumble and fall the lateral turn the

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Speaker 3: Do you the lad.

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Speaker 1: Came off the field to night.

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Speaker 4: It's not the size of the dog in the fight.

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Speaker 4: It's the size of the fight in the dog.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. I'm my

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Speaker 3: Calvaries and today I'm joined by Duck and Stuckey for

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Speaker 3: our Mac extravaganza. So you know you were in great hands.

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Speaker 3: For those not in the know, forget about the calgarithm.

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Speaker 3: If you want something for the people, tune into Mac

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Speaker 3: Manifesto by our very own Stucky.

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Speaker 5: He writes it up twice a year. It's going to

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Speaker 5: be coming out soon.

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Speaker 1: On the Action app.

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Speaker 5: He'll be pushing our editors.

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Speaker 3: To the absolute brink, probably a ten thousand a word

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Speaker 3: breakdown for his beloved conference. And to end, and speaking

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Speaker 3: of the MAC, I have a special note here from

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Speaker 3: our intrepid producer, Matt Mitchell. Do not let stuck and

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Speaker 3: Duck drone on forever. We got to keep this tight

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Speaker 3: to ninety minutes and to end all right, I got

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Speaker 3: that message out of the way quick, no problem. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna hop in because this is the league of the

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Speaker 3: wagon Wheel, the Bronze stock Trophy, the victory can in

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Speaker 3: the Battle of I seventy five midweek maction.

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Speaker 5: We love this.

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Speaker 3: Product as much as any SIKO could and for that reason,

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Speaker 3: I think we're going to have to really kind of

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Speaker 3: push the boundaries of how long we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 5: From a programming note.

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Speaker 3: Instead of going division by division, we don't have those anymore.

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Speaker 3: We're just going to go teams at the top followed

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Speaker 3: by a team at the bottom. Team of the top

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Speaker 3: team at the bottom. Because there's different ways to play

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Speaker 3: these teams. There's going to be a squad in here

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Speaker 3: with a win total one and a half. They end

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Speaker 3: up getting a lot of action from our listeners because

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Speaker 3: we think we're going under on them. So if you're

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Speaker 3: listening in and make sure to catch those cues. We're

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Speaker 3: going to go ahead and list the teams to the top,

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Speaker 3: how they did last year, what they're returning. We're not

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Speaker 3: just going to clump all the top teams at the top.

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Speaker 3: All right, stuck, I want to get you involved right away.

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Speaker 3: This is a conference obviously that you grind on for

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Speaker 3: the entire season. How early did your preps start on

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Speaker 3: a league like this? And how confident do you feel

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Speaker 3: that you really know who these teams are going to

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Speaker 3: be in week zero, in week one?

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Speaker 1: MAC is a year round endeavor. The MAC never sleeps.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I would say, like a couple months ago

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Speaker 1: started dabbling into the MAC. How well do I know

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Speaker 1: these teams? I don't have a clue. I'm kidding. I

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Speaker 1: feel semi comfortable. But there's a lot of turnover and

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Speaker 1: these the conference is getting worse overall. It's going to

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Speaker 1: stay entertaining, but a lot of these teams get plucked

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Speaker 1: with their coaches. Any good player ends up hitting the portal,

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Speaker 1: just like a lot of these group of five schools.

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Speaker 1: And now we're gonna this is the last year of

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Speaker 1: is going down, But I think that there's there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of variants across the board. These teams aren't that

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Speaker 1: you could see something like last year when Ohio coming

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Speaker 1: into the air problem my worst call I ever had

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Speaker 1: doing the MAC Manifesto for I don't know six seven years.

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Speaker 1: I thought Ohio was going to be dreadful with everything

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Speaker 1: for the first time since I don't in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 1: three or something. So it's a really fascinating league top

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Speaker 1: to bottom, excluding Kent State. I can confidently say Kent

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Speaker 5: Douck. I know.

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Speaker 3: You start your offseason win total research for the MAC

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Speaker 2: Like Stuck can alluded to, there's just so much transition

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Speaker 2: MAC lottery, as one of these teams did this year.

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Speaker 2: order to accurately assess the regular season wins, which were

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Speaker 3: I let's jump right into it. Toledo at the top

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Speaker 5: There are clear reasons to believe this will.

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Speaker 3: Be the best offense in the MAC, if not one

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Speaker 3: But last year this group wasn't up to rocket standards

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Speaker 3: The running back room has been beefed up. Chip train

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Speaker 3: And then they also bring in another running back in

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Speaker 3: terms of Kenji Christian, who could be a major sleeper

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Speaker 5: But let's get right to it.

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Speaker 3: Tucker Gleason remains the rarshack test for this team. If

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Speaker 3: Last year he ran for five hundred yards seven t d's.

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Speaker 3: They certainly won't be dialing up a ton of design runs,

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Speaker 3: It's a mountain of a man at six three, two

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Speaker 3: looking at some of the games that he threw away

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Speaker 3: his feet. So we'll the upgrade in the running back room.

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Speaker 3: The addition of Trayvon Rudolph on the perimeter be something

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Speaker 5: We'll see.

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Speaker 3: This is where I want to bring you in Stuck.

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Speaker 3: There's the candle factor. As we all know, since taking

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Speaker 3: Or do you think there's enough roster talent to insulate

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Speaker 1: I mean once a year you can pretty much bake

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Speaker 1: By the way, as always shop around for the best number,

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Speaker 1: totals in the futures. I think plus two to fifty

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Speaker 1: you like the over. I don't trust Gleason fully. He's

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Speaker 1: The offensive line is more experience this year. That was

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Speaker 1: So Tranum could be the guy that unlocks this offense,

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Speaker 1: they definitely have the talent. You have vander Oss as

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Speaker 1: add Rudolph, so the pieces are there. This is the

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Speaker 1: they're going to lead the conference in recruiting. They didn't

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Speaker 1: lose any projected starters to the portal. Candle does a

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Speaker 1: which we'll see with train and they definitely upgraded that

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Speaker 2: Got some unfinished business here in Toledo. First two games

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Speaker 5: They have very little holes.

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Speaker 1: But this is a clown schedule, let's just be frank.

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Speaker 5: Upside in Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: I think they will find a way to lose a

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Speaker 5: Colle all plaoff.

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Speaker 3: That number has been bet down into the fifteen twenty

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Speaker 5: At twenty to one.

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Speaker 3: I might take a flyer on it again, but I

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Speaker 5: Over on the win total. This is vaccine, all right.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna hop, as I mentioned, from a really good

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Speaker 5: One to win the MAC.

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Speaker 3: This year, no thanks, win totals sending at one and

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Speaker 3: and tenth of returning production. How in God's name did

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Speaker 3: Sean Lewis post three straight winning seasons in MAC play

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Speaker 3: Because the resources, as we know, are not here, The

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Speaker 3: is incredibly problematic. The university's investigation cited violations of the

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Speaker 5: Touchdowns in twelve games. So opponents, they don't even need

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Speaker 5: to get creative. Just run the ball, run the ball,

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Speaker 2: You win.

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Speaker 3: As long as you don't have a negative three turnover

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Speaker 5: To lose the Golden Flashes.

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Speaker 3: So douck, I'll get you here early in this one.

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Speaker 3: How low does this go? And do you think under

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Speaker 2: It was so bad last season for Kent State in

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Speaker 2: they actually showed a little fight natitude in the first

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Speaker 2: about all the fight natitude we saw last season for

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Speaker 2: only scored once. Head coach gets fired for cause in

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Speaker 2: at SCS. I mean, it's just atrocious. The portal saw

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Speaker 2: Stephen Daily, Big Play McCrae is gone, cam Olds went

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Speaker 2: to the SEC top to bottom. This roster is just

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Speaker 2: I actually bet Kent State under one and a half

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Speaker 2: Kent is just so bad. They don't have the personnel,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm seven points. I have them seven points. That's

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Speaker 1: It's not a guaranteed win and figure a program like

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Speaker 1: Now there are winnable games on this roster. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: come after a bye. You're at ball State. You're probably

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Speaker 1: Acling's not eligible for postseason. Where are they at mentally

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Speaker 1: Are they checked out? Are they really bad? They're resetting?

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Speaker 1: Probably not gonna win that game, but there are some

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Speaker 1: I can't go under one and a half, but I

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Speaker 3: coach team. So they can be trusted they get it right,

437
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 3: you would assume. But Matt Salapek was just like a

438
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,199
Speaker 3: hard and soul kind of guy, and it's difficult, you know,

439
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,159
Speaker 3: even at the MAC level where there's a lot of

440
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,159
Speaker 3: these gritty middle linebacker not necessarily the most athletic, but

441
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 3: someone you can trust.

442
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 5: He played in fifty nine games.

443
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 3: He was four times All MAC Defensive Player of the

444
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,159
Speaker 3: Year in twenty twenty three. Breacan didn't mince words in

445
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,119
Speaker 3: the spring, by the way. I watched multiple of his interviews.

446
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,200
Speaker 3: He just kept saying, with all the new faces, they're

447
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,119
Speaker 3: focusing on working in unison and communication, avoiding the big play,

448
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 3: and he's reading between the lines. It looks like he's

449
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 3: trying to avoid a big drop off. And obviously this

450
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 3: was the DNA of this team winning with defense, and

451
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 3: the schedule is doing them no favors. In the getting

452
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 3: your feet wet department at Wisconsin at Rutgers home against

453
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 3: UNLB before a layup against linden Wood. Then they go

454
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 3: to Ohio host Toledo and go to Buffalo in a

455
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,919
Speaker 3: fifteen day window late in the season. So that's bookended

456
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 3: challenges top and bottom of the schedule. I think can

457
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 3: be very challenging. I still lean over, but I don't

458
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 3: think necessarily that Finn is going to be this transformational

459
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,199
Speaker 3: superstar offensively to get him into that nine win range

460
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 3: with a conference championship. If we're going to poke coles

461
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 3: in Gleason, and I think it's justified certainly when you

462
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 3: put him under pressure, he makes mistakes with the football

463
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 3: and you can say these boom or busts, but I

464
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 3: think you have to apply that into your handicap of

465
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 3: Finn and Miami being led by Finn as well. His

466
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 3: final season at Toledo, three Max starts with qbrs of

467
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 3: ninety four or higher, so you get the boom, you

468
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 3: got the amazing play, particularly when he was using his legs,

469
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 3: and then three starts with qbrs of thirty five or lower,

470
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 3: so he could kind of, you know, go in the

471
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: bag and throw you out of a game, or just

472
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 3: not seem locked in or being a willing runner for

473
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 3: whatever reason. It just wasn't always there from a consistency standpoint,

474
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 3: So can they make this a dream Chuck Morton team again?

475
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 3: Play smart football, gritty defense, and elite special teams. Stuck

476
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: in your opinion because Dom Jobin could be the best

477
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 3: place kicker in.

478
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 5: The MAC, so they at least have that going for him.

479
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 1: He could pun as well. Although they did lose a

480
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: really good special teams coach, which is noteworthy because their

481
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: special teams has been elite the past couple years. Still

482
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: should be good. Yeah, the offensive line loses a lot.

483
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean the top thirteen snap counts gone six to

484
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 1: the NFL or Power four. That's what happens. I mentioned

485
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: this earlier. You know, you lose Tracy to Minnesota Virgi

486
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 1: of Texas Tech. McDonald's on the Browns rostered your offensive line.

487
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: You lose one to Texas Tech. One's sitting on the

488
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: Ravens roster. That's offensive lost a ton. There's another way

489
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: to put a fifte hundred rushing yards twenty three hundred

490
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: receiving yards. You lose a six years starting quarterback. That's

491
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: not easy to now. Finn has experience limited as a passer.

492
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: His strength is his mobility. That might be needed this

493
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: year because the offensive line might take a big step back,

494
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: especially early on, so that could actually end up playing

495
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: up for myia Ohio with his mobility. But yeah, they

496
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: lost a ton and then on on just what the

497
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: team one hundred and twenty nine hundred and thirtieth in

498
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: returning production. So there's a lot gone here on defense.

499
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: You know, you lose your two all MAC linebackers and

500
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: Salapack and Wise they did so much their defensive line.

501
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: Losing Ugu is he's going to be impossible to replace

502
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: for them. He did so much from a pressure standpoint.

503
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: Their strength is the secondary, but they lost Straighter to Auburn,

504
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: their best corner, and so I'm still worried about the

505
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: corner position. But their safety position is really good. That's

506
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: kind of the strength of this defense. They're probably going

507
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: to be pretty strong when it comes to not allowing

508
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: explosive plays. But there's some questions all over all over

509
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: this roster. I project Miami at six point four five.

510
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: I think their win total implied is like six point

511
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: three ish. So is a team I don't have anything on.

512
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: They don't benefit from Kent or UMass on the schedule,

513
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: but I don't see any value either way in MYAA

514
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: Hyatt's to pass for me.

515
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, Doug, we discussed this last week, when you know,

516
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 3: getting into Mac specific teams, how they.

517
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 5: Handle paycheck games.

518
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: Chuck Martin Historically, unless it's a Cincinnati logo in the

519
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 3: side of the helmet of their opponent, he kind of

520
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 3: mails in and goes vanilla in some of those non

521
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 3: conference games. Wants to keep people healthy. He doesn't want

522
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 3: to put too much on film.

523
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's done it for ten years that way.

524
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: Outside of their non conference scheme annually against Cincinnati, they

525
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: have put less stock in the non conference than most

526
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: and he's done a great job of rallying the troops

527
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: and getting his bunch prepared for Mac play, where they

528
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: end up usually performing pretty strongly in Mac play. I

529
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: thought it was interesting what he said at Mac Media

530
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: Days about the offensive line rebuild, which was concerning. He

531
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: didn't go to the portal and really to any guys in.

532
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: He feels comfortable with his group. I feel like he

533
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: kind of knows what he's doing regarding the offensive line,

534
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: so I'm less concerned about that then maybe most. I

535
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: think we'll see a little bit more from the tight

536
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: end room this year, and the tight ends actually have

537
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: some really good size and could provide some matchup nightmares

538
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: for people in the MAC. So it'll be interesting to

539
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: see schematically what they can draw up with some of

540
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: those big bodies in the tight end room. But specific

541
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: to the schedule, because I do anticipate that Miami of

542
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: Ohio is going to start slow in the win loss column,

543
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: UNLV shuffle their schedule around, so now they'll be coming

544
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: off a buy off that road trip Wisconsin, Rutgers and UNLV.

545
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: You could project that they start zero three if that happens,

546
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 2: And if you're a believer in Miami of Ohio to

547
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 2: win the MAC, don't bet them now, bet them when

548
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: they're owing three. Those odds will be offered in season

549
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: live at multiple books and you'll probably see a nine

550
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: nine to fifty plus one thousand in their MAC odds

551
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: when they're sitting there at zero and three. It's a

552
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: pass for me. There's just too many unknowns for me

553
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: to want to get involved in the win total. But

554
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: if you do want to bet Miami of Ohio to

555
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: win the MAC, I would wait till after week three.

556
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 4: This is the zips.

557
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 3: Let's turn out to the Akron Zips four and eight.

558
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: Last year three and five in conference play, they're ineligible

559
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: to win the MAC this year, or go bowling eight

560
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: starters returning five on offense, three on defense, win total

561
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 3: sitting at four and a half plus money. If you

562
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 3: take the over ninety first in returning production, fifty eighth

563
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: on offense, one hundred and sixteenth on defense, This APR

564
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: situation is scary. Not only they are they ineligible for

565
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: postseason play this year, they get a practice reduction along

566
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: with their Level one penalty.

567
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 5: And if they don't.

568
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: Remedy the situation, there exists a world in which they're

569
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: stripped totally of their FBS standing. According to writers, I'm

570
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: sure there's multiple steps still to come there, but they

571
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 3: got to get this going in the right direction. So

572
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 3: I say this, and this is not a tongue in

573
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: cheek suggestion, can they just start targeting academic All Americans

574
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 3: to bolster their grades? Because this program has all of

575
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 3: what four bowl trips and one hundred and thirty three

576
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: years of college football? So what's it going to hurt

577
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: if you go in and get some four point zero

578
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: students to be a long snapper a backup on are

579
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 3: you know, bottom of the depth chart at linebacker, Like,

580
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: just get this GPA and everything looking right and you

581
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: can go to FCSD two D three, Naia, there's guys

582
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 3: in there.

583
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 5: Just open it up.

584
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: Look for the academic All American team. Try to get

585
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: you know, the NCAA off your back before they throw

586
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: the book at you.

587
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: And you know what else?

588
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 5: This makes me think of stuck.

589
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: From a pure gambling perspective, I think the narrative right

590
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: now going in the season is that everyone is going

591
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: to assume they're going to be a laughing stock. They

592
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: have nothing to play for it. Yet they got a

593
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 3: real quarterback with upside in Ben Finley. They closed three

594
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: and two last year. He had a nine to two

595
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 3: touchdown interception ratio and the defense only really got pushed

596
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 3: around by Buffalo late in the season. Can the offense

597
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 3: keep them in games as they break in eight new

598
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: starters on defense? Or Am I just too sentimental, you know,

599
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: a little bit too glass half full when it comes

600
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: to Joemo in your opinion?

601
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting where are they mentally in this season?

602
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: I do show value in the over here. It's something

603
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: that I'm considering. I think the de under has taken money,

604
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: but like the over four and a half plus you

605
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: can find over four minus one twenty out there. I

606
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 1: project closer to like four point eight. I haven't got

607
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: to the window yet though, because I'm just afraid of

608
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: where are they at? Mentally? They're not eligible for the

609
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: postseason a lot of their potential. You know that you

610
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: got to beat U Mats and Kent State at home

611
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: late in the year, but are they checked out by then?

612
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: You know, you also have games at ball State at

613
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: BG Those are kind of winnable games because if you

614
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: look at their schedule, I mean will say likely losses

615
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: at Toledo, We'll throw in that bowling green at Buffalo,

616
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: at Nebraska, there are other eight games are winnable. I

617
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: have them, I think a touchdown like they're going to

618
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: be favored against Ducaine, So yeah, like within a touchdown

619
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: in like six or seven games and favored in the couple.

620
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: I do show a little bit value. But where are

621
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: they at? Mentally? What is the practice the reduced practice

622
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: time due to them, the defense, I do have questions.

623
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: They lost their top nine and snap counts their offense.

624
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: Having Finley back I think is big just from an

625
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: experience standpoint. Can Adams if Adams is healthy. He was

626
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: really good a couple of years ago, but he's been

627
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: hurd at wide receiver. That's something that I'm watching. But yeah,

628
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: they lost a lot on this defense, which is definitely

629
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: a concern pretty much on all three levels. The offense,

630
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna come down to the offensive line though, Like

631
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line for akarn has been a problem for

632
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: years and they just can't fix it. And because of that,

633
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: they don't have a run game, and then Finley's always

634
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: going to be under pressure and their offensive line can

635
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: more figure out the offensive line. I think he's a

636
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: good coach. I think he's a good play caller. But yeah,

637
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: I do show a little bit of value here. They

638
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: also have bad bye weeks. That's something to keep in

639
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: keep in mind. They have a buy their first buy

640
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: comes in November, and then they have a bye week

641
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: in the final week, but they're ineligible for the postseason.

642
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: They literally does nothing for them, so that could end

643
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: up really costing them. So a lot of questions here,

644
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: I Leno. I'm still trying to get a read on

645
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: what this team is thinking and where they're at mentally

646
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: from some people that are close to the program. But

647
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: they lost a lot on defense. That's definitely my biggest concern.

648
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 5: What are your projections saying, Doug.

649
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: I took under four and a half. There's a lot

650
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: going on here which I do not like. Offensively, this

651
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: team is just terrible in situational football. Thirty six percent

652
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: on third down, twenty six percent on fourth down, only

653
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: fourteen red zone touchdowns all season for Akron. When they

654
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: needed third and short or fourth and short, they couldn't

655
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: run the football and they were just so stuck in

656
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: the mud offensively. Win that front seven on defense was

657
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: kind of keeping them in some of those MAC games

658
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: in the middle of their schedule last season. The defensive

659
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: losses are massive. CJ. Nunneley no longer there, Brian McCoy

660
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: is off to Oklahoma State, Antavius fish leaves, a couple

661
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: dbs are gone. I mean, there's just so much talent

662
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: that you could have been proud of last year with

663
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: Akron and the MAC that is gone. And then you

664
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: lose aj and Orton the receiver and Jordan Simmons the

665
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: running back. So now you're kind of drawing on new

666
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: pieces offensively, and you're going to try to work out

667
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: the schematics of that, and it's just not something that

668
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: I think we can really bank on. Doc, you mentioned

669
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: the schedule, and what I'm really concerned about with Akron

670
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: as the schedule is exactly what you had said about

671
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: how the team is really up against it in the

672
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: non conference, and so you're going to be underdogs, significant

673
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: underdogs against Wyoming, Nebraska, and UAB on the road, and

674
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: then you come into conference play at Toledo and hosting

675
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: Central Michigan, who's an emerging MAC team. You're probably one

676
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: in five or one in six after Miami of Ohio.

677
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: So then where's the mental complexity of the team, what's

678
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: the mindset? Why are you showing up for these two

679
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: conference road games at ball State and at Buffalo? And

680
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: then once you get to the last three in the schedule,

681
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: who really knows what teams are showing up? And where's

682
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: the motivation to draw from the schedule is fascinating because

683
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: Akron doesn't truly have a buy at all thereby on

684
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: November first is followed by a Tuesday game against UMass

685
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: So no bye week, no postseason play. There's a lot

686
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: of pieces missing. I have zero confidence whatsoever. Offensively, I

687
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: went under four and a half.

688
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: A lot of times in these MAC games. Close games

689
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: gonna come down to special teams. I spent a lot

690
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 1: of time on it. Akron lost an insane punter. They

691
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: also lost their kickoff man, their kicker. Their special teams

692
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: could plumbt and that could cost them in a close

693
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: game or two, which could be the difference. But they

694
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: had a really good punter last year. That is no

695
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: longer around.

696
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: I love maction.

697
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 5: I love maction. All right.

698
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: We go from akronto the Buffalo Bowls nine and four

699
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: last season, six and two in conference play plus five

700
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: point fifty to win the conference. This fall, win total

701
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: was sitting at seven and a half eight or sorry,

702
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 3: so many starters returning on defense. We're going to get

703
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: into this in just a moment. Sixty seventh overall, though,

704
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: in terms of returning production, one hundred and fifth on

705
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: offense most teams.

706
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 5: We start with that.

707
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: Offensive conversation, offensive philosophy, but let's flip that around, duck.

708
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: The Bulls returned the ninth most production in the nation

709
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: on defense from a unit that finished twenty second in

710
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: TfL's twenty seventh takeaways, and they only allowed twenty red

711
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: zone touchdowns, which was the third best in the conference.

712
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: But they still got worked at times by Ohio akron

713
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: Ball State. In a three game stretch they allowed one

714
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five points. So a two part question

715
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: to get you involved. Without Shon dol Ac, can they

716
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: maintain that level of disruption while upping their you know,

717
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: competition quality in terms of quarterback play that they're going

718
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: to face and on their side of the ball. Can

719
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: they also finally get some competent quarterback play even beyond

720
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: that more of a game manager. Can Takuan Roberson deliver

721
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: enough in their quarterback room for Buffalo to win the conference? Well?

722
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: Interesting questions. Buffalo secured thirty three sacks and ninety two

723
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: tackles for loss last year while forcing eleven red zone

724
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: field goals and allowing thirty seven percent defensively on third down.

725
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: They were able to bow up when they needed to.

726
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: The run stop unit was exposed at times and at

727
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: other times they were very strong. Obviously, the loss of

728
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: Shon Dolac is huge. He led FBS last season in tackles.

729
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: Do you guys know who was number two? Teammate Red Murdoch.

730
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: Red Murdoch and he along with twelve of the top

731
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: fourteen tacklers return, and really there are stars in the

732
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: making at all three levels of this top quality MAC

733
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: defensive platoon. I think you've got Kobe Stewart returning with

734
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: his nine and a half sacks. Dion Crawford and his

735
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: eight and a half sacks are back. Murdoch anchors the

736
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: linebacker unit, which brings in first team All IVY League

737
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: Mitchell Gosner from Harvard. The secondary is more experienced and

738
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: should run with more cohesiveness this season. In the back end,

739
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: I think the focus obviously is to do better at

740
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: limiting explosive plays in the past game, but I think

741
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: this defense looks ready to go by max standards. Takewan

742
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: Roberson brings in a similar skill set to what we

743
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: saw last year from cj Agbana, and they've got a

744
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: little bit of better options at receiver now within established

745
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: Victor Snow and they get McMillan back from injury which

746
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: limited his production last year. I did bet Buffalo to

747
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: win the MAC earlier in the summer. I also bet

748
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: him in Week one against Minnesota. Personnel is one reason

749
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: why I like them to win the MAC. Coaching another,

750
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: but the third is the schedule. They really won the

751
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: MAC lottery in the schedule. I've got them significant favorites

752
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: against their first six MAC opponents. There's a very realistic

753
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: chance that they start six and zero in MAC play.

754
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: So then for Buffalo, it comes down to two games

755
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: that they host against Miami Ohio and Ohio University. If

756
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: they can win one of those two games, I think

757
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: they get a spot in Detroit. To that effect, I

758
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: can then decide at that point what i want to

759
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: do with the future ticket. So I'm a big believer

760
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: in Buffalo this season, I think they take that next step.

761
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: Buffalo has been bet all summer. I think they've been

762
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: over BET a bit. Look, I'm a huge fan of

763
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: their staff and Limbo I think is doing a great

764
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: job here there are they're head of schedules. First year

765
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: they went what they won nine games. They won eight

766
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: games in the regular season. But let's just pump I

767
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: just want to pump the brakes a little bit. If

768
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: you look at their portal class, it's a bottom five

769
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: portal class in the country. It's not a team that's

770
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: bringing in a ton of talent. And last year there

771
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: are eight wins were La Fayette U, matt NIU. In overtime,

772
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: they were dominated in that game outgained by I think

773
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: three hundred yards. Toledo were out gained in that game.

774
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: Akron Ball State in overtime outgained in that game, Eastern

775
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: Michigan outgained in that game, and Kent State. Like they

776
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: do have a high floor. So I have them projected

777
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: seven point seven so, which is close to what they're

778
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: implied win total is. I have them projected for five

779
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: point six league wins, which is the second most so

780
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: by my numbers, the most likely MAC championship will be

781
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: Toledo first Buffalo, although that rarely happens. But yeah, they

782
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: have a high floor. This schedule is a joke, one

783
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 1: of the ten easiest in the country. The offensive line

784
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: concerns me a bit. Bring back a decent guard duo

785
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: and not in love of them. Right tackle and center

786
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: is still a question for me. Wide receiver depth as well.

787
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: Henderson is back, didn't practice in spring, but I think

788
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: will be good to go. It's a good running back,

789
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 1: so this he's gonna be good. I think think they're

790
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: a bit over bought as of right now. I think

791
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: there's other more intriguing options that there at the current

792
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: pricing and market, which is what we want to talk about,

793
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 1: so pass for me. Although yet based on my numbers,

794
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Buffalo Verus Toledo in the MAC Championship.

795
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: Quick plug for the Action app, Duck, what number did

796
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 3: you get Buffalo at to win the conference?

797
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: Eight to one?

798
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: So that's a good reminder. Go ahead and follow everybody

799
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: so you get those picks as soon as they go in.

800
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: You can search for Duck, Stucky Colin myself. You can

801
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: search for me over at Breeze over the Action Network app.

802
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, August twenty third Watch Party come

803
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: to Chicago, Joe's. You don't even have the RCP. We're

804
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: gonna be there from the start, all of us. We're

805
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: gonna be the from the start of the first game.

806
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: Kansas Ate I obvious stated all the way through the

807
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: end games, drinks on me. Just show up.

808
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: Here's a chance, be.

809
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: A manta, my hand on a stand. I don't want

810
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: no man and man.

811
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 5: I don't want no man and man.

812
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: The ums, min and men, welcome back to the MAC.

813
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: Guys two and ten last year without a conference sixty five.

814
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 5: To one to win the MAC.

815
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: This fall, the win total sitting at three and a

816
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 3: half four stars, returning three on offense, one on defense,

817
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty second in returning production.

818
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 5: Overall.

819
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: The minute Men were in the MAC for four seasons

820
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: between twenty twelve and twenty fifteen. They won a total

821
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: of seven MAC games in those four seasons. This program

822
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: is a general horror story for any successful FCS school

823
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 3: looking to make the move. They won a national title

824
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: at the D one Double A level.

825
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 5: In ninety eight.

826
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: They then made four more postseason runs in the next

827
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: nine seasons, and then they make the move to the FBS,

828
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: and they've gotten murdered. They've never won more than four games.

829
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: And get this, they've only played two games in which

830
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 3: they've entered with a winning record since coming to the

831
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: FBS level.

832
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 5: So stuck.

833
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: You've made plenty of hay as a garbage man picking

834
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: spots to play teams like UMSL. You even got to

835
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: win over Diego Pavia in that dream season for New

836
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: Mexico State that twenty twenty three opener UMS won it.

837
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 3: Do you see something that the average college football fan

838
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: does not see? With Joe Harris Simiak as the head coach,

839
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 3: now he comes in for the minute Men. Having built

840
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: Maine into a big winner at the FCS level, one

841
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: of the more challenging jobs to do that at and

842
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three is a

843
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 3: Broyle's Award nominee for Rutgers as their DC or do

844
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: you think this roster is just too far away to compete?

845
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: This full look? The maass is going to be bad

846
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: this year. They brought out a ton of transfers, new staff.

847
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: You got a Rutgers assistant at DC, you got the

848
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: old Northwestern offensive coordator. I'm not a big fan of

849
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: their trenches. Could be decent for MAX standards. They brought

850
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: enough ton like it's it could be a disaster. But

851
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: this is a team that's bottom tennis in the country

852
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: and returning production, so they're replacing a lot. We'll see

853
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: if they go with a quarterback. There's a quarterback battle here.

854
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: Brandon Rose from Utah. Harriston, who was the backup last year,

855
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: played some I think they're going to go with Jordan.

856
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: I think I'll win the job the Yale transfer. He's

857
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: also a bit mobile. I think he's going to end

858
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: up winning. If they lost their top seven rushers as well,

859
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: led by less Diy Heasters at Michigan, john Is at

860
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: Coastal and Dad Rocko Griffin from UTSA, who might be

861
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: the guy there. They lost their best receiver by far

862
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: in Kinni James. He's with the Lions right now. Their

863
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: offensive line. There's only twenty career FBS starts, so there's

864
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: a lot of movie pieces here. Their schedule. I mean,

865
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: I project them close to like four because you can

866
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: find best out there over three and a half minus

867
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: one twenty five And I thought about it, but do

868
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: I like with so much uncertainties, it's something I want

869
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: to tie my money up on. Probably not. So there's

870
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: seven to eight winnable games here. Maybe their special teams

871
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: can get a little better. They actually have a special

872
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: teams coach. They've been so bad the last years. They

873
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: got a new kicker and punder from the Power four ranks.

874
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: This is a bad team, but the big game is

875
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: Temple at home week one. If you like this team

876
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: at the week one, I've said this with a few

877
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: teams during previous season. A lot of it can come

878
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: down to if a team's pretty lousy, but I like

879
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: the upside of one of the quarterbacks in their quarterback battle,

880
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: it changes how I think about playing them.

881
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 5: And I'm with you on Grant Jordan.

882
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 3: I went back and watched as much tape as there

883
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: was available, you know from him at Yale on YouTube.

884
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: He's got nice change of direction as a run, the

885
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: ability to manipulate the pocket, and he was also a

886
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 3: late bloomer.

887
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 5: So he comes in and I think the best football

888
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 5: could be ahead of him.

889
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: I think the wind totals fair. I think shopping around

890
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: for the best price is important. And also there's some

891
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: variation in the market. You can find over under three

892
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: and a half, you could find over under four and

893
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: a half. So depending on which way you're leaning, figure

894
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 2: out the big and see which bet is the best

895
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: bet for you to make. But Mike Pajakian comes in

896
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator. We remember those riveting, inspiring, dynamic offenses

897
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: from Northwestern. Oh wait, no, we don't, because that's never

898
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 2: what they ran. They're gonna run the ball, they're gonna

899
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: play slow. I like Grant Jordan. I think he's a

900
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: great talent and he could fit right in here with

901
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: this unit. But he does bail from the pocket a

902
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: little early, and he does have a tendency to just

903
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: pick up five yards with his legs as opposed to

904
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: allowing pass play progression to run its course. So I

905
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: see a run focus with this group, and I see

906
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: the clock moving a lot. I actually bet under in

907
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: their Week one opener against Temple, which was fifty two

908
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: and a half. I'd still like it. Anything fifty one

909
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: and a half or more, I'd go under. They might

910
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: just find with a slower paced team going to try

911
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: to establish the run, they have to use these first

912
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: couple of games to try to figure out what they

913
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 2: have on the offensive line with seven guys that transfer

914
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: in three of them or p four guys the rest

915
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: REFSS players, but you're going to have to try to

916
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: find some time to see what you've got on the

917
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: offensive line. So I think we'll see a heavy dose

918
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: of run in the first two kind of a pass

919
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: on the win total. But I will say this too,

920
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: that last game of the season where they're hosting BG. Man,

921
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: if BG's not playing to make a bowl game, that

922
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: could be ugly ugly for BG. So it just could

923
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: be something to watch.

924
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: Ohio Bobcats eleven and three. Last year seven and one

925
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 3: won the conference won the Cure Bowl over Jacksonville State

926
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: thirty to twenty seven plus three to twenty to win

927
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 3: the back again this year, win total setting at seven

928
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: and a half nine reserves back returning starts, back five

929
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 3: on offense, four and d fifty fourth in returning production

930
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: from Bill Conley of ESPNQBS, who accounted for one thousand

931
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: non sack rush yards last year that are returning.

932
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 5: Got Matier at Oklahoma.

933
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: You got Parker Navarro here from Ohio, Dan Pierre in Utah,

934
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: and Horvath at the Naval Academy. So Ken Navarro grew

935
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 3: up even further as a dual threat quarterback, eliminate some

936
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 3: of those risky downfield attempts. He had more turnover worthy

937
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: plays seventeen than big time throws only fourteen. And everyone

938
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: accept left tackle Davion Witherspoon must be replaced up front.

939
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: Ban Gura is back after a year away at Minnesota,

940
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: so he's really a returning starter as well. I think

941
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: that you can add in so you could make an

942
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: argument that they have six returning starters here. On the

943
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: coaching front, Yes, there's a new regime, but they went

944
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: with Brian Smith. They kept it inside the family. They

945
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 3: retained their DC John Hawser as well, and they flipped

946
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: the script on the portal after getting plundered last year.

947
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 3: This time around, they grabbed dbis from Wisconsin, Kentucky, Ohio State,

948
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 3: and Minnesota, adding them to the potential all MAC DB's

949
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 3: Tank Pearson and DJ Walker. I think this could be

950
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: a great pass defense from just a secondary perspective after

951
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: they finished fiftieth against the.

952
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 5: Past last fall. If you believe this line gels.

953
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 3: This is where I'm going to be bullish on a team.

954
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: I'm going to go over on the wind total. I

955
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: like this price point. If you can shop around, you

956
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: can get seven to two on them to win the MAC.

957
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: Could they upset Rutgers on the road or rebuilding West

958
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: Virginia at home in that rare G five hosting a

959
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: P four team, I think they could. And guess who

960
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 3: they played in that Bowl game last year, Rich Rod,

961
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: so their experience and tape is fresh on this exact system.

962
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 5: Toss in No.

963
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 3: Toledo and Miami, Ohio at home, and I like the schedule.

964
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: I said, I'm going over seven and a half. I'm

965
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: going with them to win the MAC at seven to two,

966
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: which would be you know, a massive boost for the

967
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: win total if they can upset either Rutgers or West Virginia.

968
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: They're catching eleven at Rutgers. I think they'll be around

969
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: a seven to ten point home dog against the Kneers.

970
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 3: I think they get one of those two.

971
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 2: I like this team.

972
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: I think that there's a lot made of coaching changes,

973
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: obviously the G five level, but this is as you know,

974
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: contiguous as it can be in terms of a coaching change.

975
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 5: Though. That's what I'm going with, Stuck, what are you

976
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 5: see in from the bobs?

977
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: Couldn't disagree more? Baby? There we go, all right, doubling

978
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: down on the Ohio Fay train. This is my favorite

979
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: win total of the back Ohio under seven and a half.

980
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: Good to minus one fifty. You can find minus one

981
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: thirty out there. I've projected closer to six and a

982
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: half wins. Now, there's a lot of uncertainty in this

983
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 1: schedule because they will face Rutgers. Then they will face

984
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: eleven teams with a new starting quarterback. That is the

985
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: most They're the only team that faces eleven or more

986
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: new quarterbacks. So quarterbacks obviously the most important position in

987
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: college football. A lot of these teams are they gonna

988
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: be much better or worse than expected? Probably one of

989
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: the highest variant schedules in the country because they're facing

990
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: so many new quarterbacks. They likely start one in three

991
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: and then they're probably favored in their next seven, and

992
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: then they're a small dog at Buffalo. Now I am worried,

993
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: a bit worried. The one game that does worry me

994
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: is West Virginia. It's a really good spot, like West

995
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: Virginia has that pit game that rich Rod has circled.

996
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: The last it was the disaster so seven. Then he

997
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: left town. So I'm a little worried about that game.

998
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: But I'm super low on this team. I think they

999
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: take a huge step backspect Navarro and his rushing ability.

1000
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: But look, last year Tias was the lead at the

1001
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: running back position. He's gone. I'm not a huge fan

1002
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: of Benger. Owen was so good close to thirteen hundred

1003
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: yards of receiver, was kind of his security blanket and

1004
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: go to guy. I don't really think they have a

1005
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: true number one right now. Then their offensive line. You

1006
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: lose your four year starter at center, you lose your

1007
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: right guard Atkinson I think he's in the CFL now,

1008
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: you lose a couple other tackles, one to wake Forest.

1009
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: So this offensive line a lot of questions there. Then

1010
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: let's go to the defense. Their defense shocked me last

1011
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: year with how good they were, and I mean, that's

1012
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: what happens with it. They went and credit to them.

1013
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: They got a lot of lower level players that all

1014
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: hit and you talk about a guy like Owen. I

1015
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: could go on and on, but their defense was the

1016
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: star of the show most of the way last year.

1017
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: Their defensive line in particular was amazing. Well who do

1018
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: they lose? They lost the Weaver, their defensive end who

1019
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: had double digit sacks. He went to Rutgers. Macnebo was

1020
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: great at defensive end. Walker Burgess Henderson their defensive tackle.

1021
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: He went to Missouri. They lost Rice at another DEFENSI

1022
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: tackle to Maryland. Dogg it. They got gutted, absolutely gut

1023
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: And now you're relying on like can they do it again?

1024
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: And hit it like you're probably gonna have an Arkansas

1025
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: Pine Bluff starter at defensive end, maybe a Youngstown State

1026
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: Central Michigan cast off. This defensive line could be significantly worse.

1027
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: Then you at linebacker, you lose your top two, You

1028
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: lose You're gonna take a step back there. You lose

1029
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: Taylor leak those four linebackers in total to Charlotte. Their

1030
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: linebacker coach I thought was pretty good went to Charlotte.

1031
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: They all followed in there. The strength of their team,

1032
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: besides the returning quarterback is their defensive backfield could be

1033
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: pretty good, but they do lose a corner, their best

1034
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: corner to the NFL. They still should be pretty good

1035
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: in the secondary, but I think they'll take a slight

1036
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: step down, especially because their defensive line is gonna be

1037
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: much worse. This team lost a ton their incoming talent

1038
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: bottom ten in the country as far as portal recruiting.

1039
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I love the under hear and

1040
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong again, so I was so wrong on

1041
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: this last year. If I'm wrong again, I will drive

1042
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: to Athens next summer. That's time I said this.

1043
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 5: I lo.

1044
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: I ended up going to Murphy's bro But I'll drive

1045
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: to Athens and go to their camp decked out in

1046
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: Ohio gear and I will record it under seven and

1047
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: a half.

1048
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: All right, Duck, Where do you see this team shaken

1049
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: out in the fall? I think it starts at the top.

1050
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: You have the transition with a new regime, and it's

1051
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: just hard to replace some of the stability that was

1052
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: provided by Tim alban and the coaching staff at University

1053
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: of Ohio.

1054
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 5: I like that.

1055
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: Banngura returns to the program. They also had an offensive

1056
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: lineman that returns the program after spending a year away.

1057
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: They have some pretty decent size on the left side

1058
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: of that offensive line, so if they can shore up

1059
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: the offensive line in totality, now, they're going to be

1060
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: leaning on an FCS player and a Division two player

1061
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: likely to fill the whole. So I imagine that they

1062
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: take a step back. But I could also see some

1063
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: of the tight ends, which they usually pack it in

1064
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: and use their tight ends to help in the run game.

1065
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: I could see it working a little bit offensively. It

1066
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: just seems like such a developmental year when you're looking

1067
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 2: at the defensive front seven and all of the production

1068
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: that was lost. You had significant players that are off

1069
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: now to the P four, and you didn't really backfill

1070
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 2: it with comparable level talent, and so your front seven

1071
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: takes a step back. I think that there's a significant

1072
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: cause for concern the first three weeks of the season,

1073
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 2: because I think that you could get your front seven

1074
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: eaten up early. Ohio defensively was just so good in

1075
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: situational football last season solid and third down solid the

1076
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: red zone there, defensive havoc numbers were rock solid. But

1077
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: I just see that there's some just marginal decrease in

1078
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: what we're going to see with output from that team

1079
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: on the defensive side. It just looks developmental. This is

1080
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: another case where I think, if you like Ohio, let's

1081
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: wait for the first three to play out, because there

1082
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: is a very realistic possibility there own three heading into

1083
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: their FCS game against Gardner Web, and let's see what

1084
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: those futures look like there. Do they get to five seveny?

1085
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: Do they get to six to one to win the

1086
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: MAC with a four start? And then maybe you could

1087
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: jump in and play it there to get a little

1088
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: bit better price and not be paying a premium win

1089
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: total seemed a little bit fair to me. Swing games

1090
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: are Miami and Buffalo and conference play, so no real

1091
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: strong opinion on the regular season win total. But defense

1092
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: will take a step back.

1093
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: Go under your head over or under under you go

1094
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: be kidding me?

1095
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 5: Now, this is peak maction. It is peak maction.

1096
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: There we go, all right, ball State the Cardinals three

1097
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 3: and nine last year, two and six in conference play

1098
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: fifty five to one to win the MAC. This year

1099
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 3: win total three and a half three stars, returning one

1100
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 3: on zero two on defense one hundred and twenty sixth

1101
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: and returning production one hundred and thirty fourth on offense alone.

1102
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: We discussed this team of all teams to discuss the

1103
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: Phillies game Duck the other night, and I suspect I

1104
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: think it's because you think they're going to be dreadful.

1105
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 5: Is this a Potempkin village in Muncy?

1106
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: Because are they all propped up by the consistent mediocrity

1107
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: of Mike new And people from the outside look at

1108
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 3: it as, Okay, this is going to be a bad team.

1109
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 3: This won't be like, you know, a two win kind

1110
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 3: of team, and then maybe they look at the upside

1111
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: from a rushing perspective. For Kyle Kelly as a run

1112
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: first guy, does he fit with Mike Yuremovich as the

1113
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: new head coach?

1114
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 5: His identity?

1115
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 3: Is that what he wants to do because he ran

1116
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: so much of Butler. I'm like trying to talk myself

1117
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 3: into it, trying to, you know, fit together some of

1118
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: these pieces.

1119
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 5: I don't see it.

1120
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 3: Also, as a note, he was an assistant at NIU

1121
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 3: for years, so he knows the landscape that's as much

1122
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: positivity as.

1123
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 5: I can have on ball State.

1124
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 3: If you want to go ahead and go in the

1125
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: opposite direction, please save me here, duck Well.

1126
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: I think for it to work at the short term

1127
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: for ball State, Kelly's really going to have to improve

1128
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: as a passer. We have limited data, but in twenty

1129
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: twenty three he completed just fifty three percent of his

1130
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: passes and four point seven yards per attempt, which is

1131
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: very weak.

1132
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 5: Two big time.

1133
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: Throws, six turnover worthy plays, and I I think what

1134
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: you'll see is at Butler last season, we saw a

1135
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: lot of pistol. We saw some twelve and some twenty

1136
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: two personnel. There was some outside zone, a little red

1137
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: option out of the gun, lots of QB power, and

1138
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: they do a lot of pre snap window dressing, so

1139
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna see tight ends flopping some aarrow motion from

1140
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: the receivers. There's always the thread of some receivers sweep

1141
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: or the little pop pass behind the line of scrimmage

1142
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 2: that teams run. I'm concerned of Kelly and his durability

1143
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: doing this for a full season. I'm also concerned about

1144
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: the interior of the offensive line just constantly getting blown

1145
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: up at the point of attack, and I'm really concerned

1146
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 2: about the pass receivers. Anyone with any productivity from last

1147
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: season is gone. If I'm defending this, I'm blowing up

1148
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: the A gaps, I'm walking a safety down to support

1149
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: the run, and I'm going to dare you to throw

1150
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: over the top, which he was ineffective in doing in

1151
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: limited action in twenty twenty three before switching to corner

1152
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: last season. What's really concerning outside of that football state

1153
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: is there are just so many defensive concerns on this unit.

1154
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: They did secure twenty sacks last season, but seven of

1155
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 2: them were against Kent State, so if you factor that out,

1156
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: it's very very little havoc numbers provided by the defensive front.

1157
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: The secondary was atrocious. You allowed eleven plays of fifty

1158
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 2: or more yards surrendered by the secondary, sixty two percent

1159
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: completions allowed, with thirty seven touchdown passes against, and you're

1160
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: stopping it allowed five point two yards per carry over

1161
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: the course of the entire season. There's just very very

1162
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: little to draw from the front seven is massively undersized

1163
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: at ball State. The secondary doesn't appear to be improved.

1164
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: I know they tried to backfill a little bit in

1165
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: the portal, but you're backfilling with FCS talent, fringe talent

1166
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: from the Patriot League and the FCS Non Scholarship Pioneer

1167
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: Football League, and so I think you're just trying to

1168
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: replace some talented players, even on a bad defense, with

1169
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: fringe FCS talent. This could go really, really badly for

1170
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: ball State this year. I think that what they're going

1171
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 2: to try to do is use this as a year

1172
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: zero and kind of rebuild and put the building blocks

1173
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: in place to kind of get a framework together for

1174
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 2: what you want to be. But I do not see

1175
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: it happening this year complete rebuild mode. You're trying to

1176
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: just replace talent that portaled out with with with really

1177
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: bad FCS talent. I faded ball State in Week one

1178
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: when they go to Purdue. I'm going to fade them

1179
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 2: against Yukon, and I look to fade them throughout the season.

1180
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: I didn't go under on the win total specifically because

1181
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 2: I think the schedule has some gettable games depending on

1182
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 2: the mentality of some of these teams that they play,

1183
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: uh kind of midway through their schedule. Kent State is

1184
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: not unwinnable. Acrons not unwinnable. I don't think Western that's.

1185
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: Very winnable, right yes?

1186
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 3: Uh?

1187
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: And Aron at home? Uh, like that's you can see

1188
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: them getting three wins. They can they get one versus

1189
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: Ohio at home? Yes, I say, but our Eastern Michigan

1190
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 1: and then that's that's probably what decides your win total.

1191
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: I yeah, this team. Look, I loved betting this team

1192
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: with Kelly at quarterback a couple of years ago because

1193
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: their defense is really good and that kind of meshed

1194
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: with their defense, like the ball, take care of it,

1195
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: chwo up the clock, rely on your defense. And I

1196
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: used to love vetting them the second half the year

1197
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: and they went to this run heavy offense. I will

1198
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: say if this year in the MAC, if you want

1199
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: to pull off some upsets, you want to make some noise,

1200
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: you want to run heavy offense. Because look at some

1201
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: of the teams we just talked about, Ohio, where is

1202
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: their questions? Front seven? Toledo? Where are their questions? Front seven?

1203
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: Buying me of Ohio, A lot of these teams, I'm

1204
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: worried about their run defense. Their secondaries I definitely think

1205
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: are stronger, so maybe that works for them, but their

1206
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: defense just isn't there right now. I mean, this is

1207
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: a team that's bottom three and returning production bottom fifteen,

1208
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: and incoming talent. So there's just they're not gonna be

1209
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: able to just run the ball and rely on their defense.

1210
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I will say their pasty can't be any

1211
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: worse than last year. Their past he was so bad

1212
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: last year that who cares that? You lose everybody but

1213
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: their front seven. They lose some dudes. They also their offense.

1214
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: They alost ten of eleven of their top snow counts

1215
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: eight eight of those ten transferred up, so they were coveted.

1216
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: They lost four multi year starters on the offensive line,

1217
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: and you got to rebuild your front seven. You got

1218
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: a new coach is also going to be the OC,

1219
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: so there's there's a lot of moving pieces here. I

1220
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: project them three point six, So pass for me.

1221
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 5: Are you serious?

1222
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: MAC shit?

1223
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 5: You get out of love it?

1224
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 3: Northern Illinois the Huskies eight and five last season, four

1225
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 3: and four in MAC played that won the Potato.

1226
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 5: Bowls for my career.

1227
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 3: So they're twelve to one that win the MAC in

1228
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 3: their final season in the conference. Their win total is

1229
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 3: sitting at six and a half plus one thirty five

1230
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: to the over three returning starters one on offense two

1231
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 3: one D one hundredth and thirty sixth and returning production.

1232
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 5: That's dead last.

1233
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 3: First of all, Boo and I you you're woven into

1234
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 3: the very fabric of the Mac. Michael the Berner, Turner,

1235
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 3: Garrett Wolf, Jordan Lynch. You played in the goddamn Orange

1236
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 3: Bowl with a MAC patch on your shoulder. You beat

1237
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 3: Notre Dame last year, and then you turn around apparently

1238
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 3: means nothing to you. Now you're going to go be

1239
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 3: that weird eastern outpost of the Mountain West Conference for shame.

1240
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: But you know what this is it everybody gets to

1241
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 3: put in premium effort as you play your last season

1242
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 3: in the MAC and think that you're better than the

1243
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: rest of year compatriots here in the conference. The offense

1244
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 3: is going to be working with a new OC yet again.

1245
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: I think that's the third straight year with a different

1246
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. This time they're going to go with a

1247
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 3: D two star in Quinn Sanders. He built a dominant

1248
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 3: rushing attack at Charleston, not the one in South Carolina,

1249
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 3: at the one in West Virginia.

1250
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 5: That could mean big things for.

1251
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 3: Telly Johnson, who averaged over one hundred yards rushing per game.

1252
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 3: In the Huskies Final four last season, but that was

1253
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 3: behind a veteran line that finished twenty fifth in line yards.

1254
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 3: Now they need to replace four starters up front. Remember

1255
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 3: the name name Chavron Wright. He comes with Sanders from Charleston.

1256
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 3: He ran for nearly forty three hundred career yards. He

1257
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 3: had thirty eight rushing touchdowns, not in his career last year,

1258
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 3: not a typo So over the past five years, Sanders

1259
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: was a sixty to forty run centric kind of OC

1260
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: and play caller. But does the offensive line, you know,

1261
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: kind of give him pause. Do they need to go

1262
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 3: in a different direction and be a little bit more

1263
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: multiple just to keep teams off of stack in the

1264
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 3: box against a green offensive line, we will see. This

1265
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: is where I get off of this ride, because the

1266
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 3: defense brings in Rob Harley as their DC. Somebody helped

1267
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: me with this higher total d the last two years

1268
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 3: at Arkansas State one hundred and twenty seventh, one hundred

1269
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 3: and twenty ninth. They gave up over thirty points per

1270
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: game in both of those seasons. In twenty twenty three,

1271
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 3: he found a way to create tackles for loss. But

1272
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: they regress severely in that department last year, and now

1273
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: he's got a defense that he's got to work with.

1274
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 3: It's almost entirely brand new. They draw Toledo, Miami, Ohio

1275
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: two of those three on the road. They're at Maryland,

1276
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: Msissippi State in the non con and they host San

1277
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: Diego State. I feel great about wins over holy Cross.

1278
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: We'll throw in ball State Ken at home. That's three

1279
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: nice little floor. But let's even give him the win

1280
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 3: at UMass. Let's say they get to get to four wins.

1281
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: I don't see three more wins on the schedule. I'm

1282
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 3: going to go under on Northern Illinois in their last year.

1283
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 3: I hate this DC higher offensively. I think it makes

1284
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: sense to be this run centric. They certainly have been

1285
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: historically with this offense under Thomas Hammock, But I think

1286
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: this new coach is going to have some issues scheming

1287
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: up around offensive line that's not pushing people around in

1288
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: the trenches. What do you think Stucky about NIU's final

1289
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 3: year in the MAC think.

1290
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to play spread out. They want to go

1291
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: a little faster too, which I don't necessarily agree with.

1292
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: But their defense is going to take a big step back.

1293
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: This team they should have been in the MAC Title.

1294
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: Last year. They couldn't win close games. Their special teams

1295
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: was so bad. They couldn't do a lot of little things.

1296
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: It's amazing that thet they won a Notre Dame, but

1297
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: their their offensive line off. They lost four senior starters

1298
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: that were solid on the offensive line. So they had

1299
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: a really good offensive line and their defense was really good.

1300
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at that defensive line. Haberman O'Malley

1301
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: who's now with the Titans, Gil Howard is now with

1302
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: Texas Tech Taylor. You know, you do get Williams and

1303
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: Williams back, which is a solid duo. But their defensive line,

1304
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: which was so deep last year, is definitely taking a

1305
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: step back. You lose all of your line back. And

1306
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: then look, let's go to the secondary. You know, if

1307
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: one guy's on the Rams, you have another guy's on Missouri,

1308
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: another guy was on Indiana. Their secondary was super underrated

1309
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: last year. This defense was really really good, one of

1310
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: the best the group of five level. You're probably starting

1311
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: like a D two guy now probab, maybe a freshman

1312
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: or two in the secondary, maybe a freshman wide receiver

1313
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: like this team at bottom ten to fifteen is returning production.

1314
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: Did recruit pretty well. But I'm with you, I don't

1315
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: see this defensive coordinator higher. It's going to be kind

1316
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: of a similar scheme but more aggressive. But he's he's

1317
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: never done anything for me. They're eight of them their

1318
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: top nine snapcounts and d are gone lost five to

1319
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: the NFL or Power four thirteen of the top fourteen

1320
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: and snap counts are gone on offense two to NFL,

1321
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: one to Toledo, two to Power four. Yeah, I mean

1322
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: I project them around six lean under here, but that's

1323
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: pretty close to what the price is. It's this could

1324
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: be a rough year for Northern Illinois as a look

1325
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: ahead to next year. I think that's maybe what they're

1326
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: they're focused on. So yeah, if I had to, I'd

1327
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: go under you.

1328
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: I see it the same way you know the guy

1329
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: drawn it up. On defense, Nick Benedetto is now off

1330
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: to Fresno State, and he really did off a special defense,

1331
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: huge loss twenty seven percent on third down, thirty six sacks,

1332
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: secured only out of thirty six trips into the red zone,

1333
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: defensively only sixteen touchdowns. I mean, he was just a

1334
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: masterminded situational football. And now with what you're replacing it with,

1335
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: both in the guy scheming it up at the DC

1336
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 2: position and in talent. I think takes a major, major

1337
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: step back. You know, the new offense that they're going

1338
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: to in Fuse is really a unique offense brought in

1339
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: from the Division two level. We're going to see a

1340
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 2: lot of ten personnel, a lot of three by one formations.

1341
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 2: They're going to run some rpo and some screen game.

1342
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: It was almost entirely all short passing, kind of dink

1343
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: and dunk, little tight end motion we'll see, but a

1344
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 2: lot of short stuff, a lot of your three step stuff.

1345
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: I didn't see a lot of true progression assing out

1346
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: of the film that I saw of D two. Charleston

1347
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: Hammick said at media das they're deploying this offense, but

1348
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: they want to throw the ball more. They're gonna really

1349
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: be a high tempo unit. They're gonna go fast and

1350
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: he wants to throw the ball more and kind of

1351
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: get into some shootouts. Direct quote from him at mediad

1352
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see if there's.

1353
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: Anything that's like not been moved to the Mountain West

1354
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: I think doesn't fit who NIU should be.

1355
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: The road games are gonna be tough out at a

1356
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 2: conference is going to be tough. I think this team

1357
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 2: struggles to make a bowl game. I lean under six

1358
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: and a half.

1359
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 5: All right, I'm glad we are under on NIU.

1360
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 3: That's what they deserve from the MAC podcast here in

1361
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 3: their last season after turning traders on US.

1362
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 5: Eastern Michigan.

1363
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 3: Now, let's look at them five and seven last year,

1364
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 3: two and six in conference play, twenty to one.

1365
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 5: Their price point to win it.

1366
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 3: This full win total set at four and a half,

1367
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 3: five starters returning three on zero two one D ninety

1368
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 3: fifth in return production.

1369
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 5: I made a big stink in this very program. Last summer.

1370
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 5: EMU was one hundred and seventeenth in returning production.

1371
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 3: Sampson Evans was gone. Colt Snyder was not a quarterback

1372
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: that I trusted. This is going to be a down year,

1373
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: the perfect year to fade Chris Creyton. Let's go under

1374
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 3: four and a half, I said, And then they win

1375
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 3: five games and I'm not better, I swear. But they

1376
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 3: beat Conference USA champs Jacksonville State in double overtime, and

1377
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 3: they erased an eighteen point deficit in the fourth quarter

1378
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 3: against Central Michigan and thenver seeded to lose their next

1379
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 3: five games, but at that point they had already got

1380
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 3: to five wins. What I've learned is that at the

1381
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 3: G five level, don't overreact to production deficiencies because you're

1382
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 3: going to have a lot of teams that are outside

1383
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 3: the top one hundred in returning production, particularly the teams

1384
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 3: that have a really good coaching staff. And obviously Chris

1385
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 3: Creighton has been a quality coach. He's taken them to

1386
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 3: six Bowls. They returned both coordinators for the third straight season.

1387
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 3: So I'm passing on this win total. I'm trying to

1388
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 3: learn my lesson this year, but there's still legitimate concerns

1389
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 3: to get point two in the trenches. You could look

1390
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 3: at the three way quarterback battle between Noah Kim, cameronag Edge,

1391
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 3: and drum roll please, Jace Stuckey.

1392
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 5: So stuck? Was this meant to be?

1393
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 3: You got a little cousin, you know, competing for a

1394
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 3: starting job. Here do you see him taking snaps as

1395
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 3: QB one for EMU this full?

1396
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: I think he's actually fourth, But yeah, if he gets

1397
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: wins the job, I will be betting. I think Salem

1398
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: is back in the mix too. I think if he

1399
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: wins the job, but we'll be betting Eastern Michigan to

1400
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: win the back. I will be obliged to do so.

1401
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, don't don't fade Chris Creighton at a win

1402
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: total this low like he's He's probably one of the

1403
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: most underrated coaches in the country. They're not going to

1404
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: beat themselves. Ever, their special team is always going to

1405
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: be good. They're not gonna be penalized generally speaking heavily.

1406
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: So this the team that just doesn't beat itself and

1407
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: then is gonna win these close games, which they're in

1408
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: a ton of. They're not gonna value with talent. I mean,

1409
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: Cragon just doesn't much to work with in Ipsilanny, but

1410
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: seventy three their last ninety seven games have been side

1411
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: of by one possession. So yeah, they don't bring a

1412
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: ton back. The quarterback battle is definitely worth watching. There's

1413
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: questions all over this roster. They all have the toughest

1414
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: max late. They don't get to play kent Unas or Akron.

1415
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: That's that's tough break they do. They don't play Toledo. Also,

1416
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: they also don't have a buy until November. They have

1417
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: two late buys and that's why is that noteworthy? What

1418
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: was a brand new team Craighton's usually a good coach.

1419
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: He usually gets and they don't have They only have

1420
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: three games after ten after October twenty fifth. He's usually

1421
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: peaks late. Creighton's really good in November, so that might

1422
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: end up hurting them. A lot of this will probably

1423
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: come down to, like what does what does Central Michigan ball, State,

1424
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois bowling Green right four teams that are like

1425
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: complete resets that are on their schedule. A lot of

1426
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: variants there for a small win total, Like if three

1427
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: of them are much better than anticipated, then it might

1428
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: be tough to go over. If three of them are worse,

1429
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: you're probably going over. So I'm pretty close to market here.

1430
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,959
Speaker 1: But they lost a really good kicker, But I trust

1431
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: Craigon the special team, but basically some up. He lost

1432
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: their top four defensive lineman, their top two linebackers. We

1433
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: were both really good. Their top three dbs four of

1434
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: those nine to Power four were placing mainly with just

1435
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: depth and lower level guys. OH loses your quarterback, your

1436
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: running back, your top two receivers, the power for three

1437
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: offensive linemen to the portal one to Power four two

1438
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: to Southern miss. OH could be better if like the

1439
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: quarterback works out like Kim and Edge, they have some

1440
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: talent and experience in differing ways pass. For me, I

1441
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: would never go under on Eastern Michigan. That's all I'll say.

1442
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I learned my lesson there, duck Where you go

1443
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 5: in which direction?

1444
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: Or is this a pass? I just got a lot

1445
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: of questions on the defense. Losing the top ten tacklers

1446
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 2: from last year. You really saw that EMU defense wear

1447
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 2: down in the second half of league play while allowing

1448
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: four point nine yards per carrying conference play, sixty four

1449
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: percent completion percentage, allowed twenty two pass touchdowns against. It

1450
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: was just massive losses at all three levels. Peyton Pray

1451
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: and Dylan Shelton were big losses along the defensive line.

1452
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: Zelensky goes to the power for there is some competence

1453
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 2: along the defensive line coming back, but I don't see

1454
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: them producing even up to the level of last year.

1455
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 2: Linebacker losses are big. Luke Murphy and John come leave.

1456
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 2: There's some opportunities for some guys like the FCS guy

1457
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: who comes in from Elon and Caden Bailey could step up.

1458
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: He comes in from Syracuse. I mean it could be there.

1459
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 2: I could see a path to where their defense is okay,

1460
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,479
Speaker 2: secondary group is probably just on par with last year.

1461
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 2: Daikon White and Quintavia Scandret are losses, so who knows

1462
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 2: if they're going to be able to backfill there. Offensively,

1463
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: there's just not a lot of wow factor. I don't think.

1464
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm in love with either one

1465
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: of these two quarterbacks that come in and just kind

1466
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: of one of those things where I think that Creighton

1467
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 2: squeezes as much or as much water out of the

1468
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: Orange as you possibly can, but he's really up against

1469
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: it from a personnel standpoint this season, where where you

1470
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 2: know the defense allows too many big plays, the offense

1471
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: doesn't get enough big plays. You find yourself in just

1472
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 2: bad situational football week in and week out. Sometimes you

1473
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: can pull rabbits out of a hat, sometimes you can't.

1474
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 2: I've got them a dog in seven games, reasonable favorites,

1475
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: three and a half or more in three games, and

1476
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: two flips, so win total seems accurate. I don't want

1477
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 2: to fade creating against the win total because I wouldn't

1478
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 2: be stunned if this team makes a bowl game. But

1479
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: they're going to have to pull two upsets in order

1480
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: to do so likely fades for me in weeks six,

1481
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 2: eight to nine. For Eastern Michigan, I'll probably do fire

1482
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 2: up chips.

1483
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 3: All right, it's time to fire up chips Central Michigan.

1484
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 3: The chip was four and eight last year, two and

1485
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 3: six in conference. They clean the house. From a coaching perspective,

1486
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 3: they're now twenty two to one to win the conference.

1487
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 3: They're win total set right at that edge of Bowl eligibility.

1488
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 3: Five and a half plus one, twenty five on the

1489
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 3: over nine starters, returning three on offense, six on d

1490
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 3: eightieth and returning production coach mac as i mentioned out

1491
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 3: of the Mac the program under him just ran out

1492
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 3: of juice. But there's plenty of reasons for optimism. Ye

1493
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 3: gone is the stale offense that never really knew what

1494
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 3: it wanted it to be. In his Matt Drinkle and

1495
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 3: his choice at OC from Eastern Washington Jim chapin top

1496
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 3: ten in the FCS in total offense sixth last year,

1497
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 3: top ten scoring as well, and rushing offense finished fifth

1498
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 3: in the nation at the FCS level. Seems like a

1499
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 3: perfect marriage with Drinkle, who is at army and wants

1500
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 3: to run the football. Has his roots in terms of

1501
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 3: coaching position group upfront on the offensive line. Although it

1502
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: should be ate noted that Chapin isn't a triple option guy.

1503
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: His offenses were much closer to true balance. Found a

1504
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 3: way to get assistical monster at wide receiver last year

1505
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 3: Infton Chishom the third posted over thirteen hundred receiving yards

1506
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 3: for the Eagles out there in eastern Washington.

1507
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 5: So this is a team in my eyes, we.

1508
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 3: Really need to see in the flesh to get a

1509
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 3: full feel for their offensive strategy. There's lots of coaches

1510
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 3: speak at this time of year. I think that there's good,

1511
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 3: educated guesses being thrown out there in terms of what

1512
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 3: personnel groupings and tempo we're going to see.

1513
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 5: But lavis a quarterback.

1514
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 3: Transfers Angel Flores from Northern Arizona and Marcus Beam from

1515
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 3: the JUCO ranks. They're all battling it out for QB one.

1516
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 3: We'll see which one is a better fit. There's also

1517
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 3: issues on the line, which must replace four starters. Two

1518
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 3: transfers from Balpo and Columbia are penciled in as starters

1519
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 3: on the O line. Usually that's a bad sign, but

1520
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 3: when you dig into it, John A. Nunzie from Columbia.

1521
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 3: He's a mountain of a man. He's probably going to

1522
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 3: play guard. He was second team All IVY last year.

1523
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 3: And as I said, keep in mind, this is Drinkles

1524
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 3: area of expertise. So if there was going to be

1525
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 3: a spot for him to sprinkle a little magic, you know,

1526
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 3: pixie dust on it, it would be the offensive line. Defensively,

1527
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 3: a lot of experience to work with Jordan Kwaietkowski sticking around.

1528
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 3: He was massive fourteen tackles for a loss last year.

1529
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 5: One of the best jobs.

1530
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 3: By a G five team to keep a key defender

1531
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 3: from entering the portal. Can the secondary create more turnovers?

1532
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,520
Speaker 3: You know they have experienced and some nice portal additions.

1533
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 3: I like Sean Cronin at DC. He did great work

1534
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 3: with the Army defensive line. They were always like bend

1535
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 3: but not breaking. You could not score on Army in

1536
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 3: the red zone. They were first in red zone defense.

1537
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 3: So that's something CMU would be wise to emulate this year.

1538
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 3: I know the Action team is high on these guys.

1539
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 3: I certainly heard it from Colin. But an opening road

1540
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 3: a back to back to back San Jose State hit Michigan.

1541
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:08,879
Speaker 5: That's brutal.

1542
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 3: Right there, A Wagner win gets them started, then they

1543
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 3: get Akron kent UMass.

1544
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 5: So I think four wins is the floor.

1545
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 3: No Miami or Ohio is also night nice And because

1546
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 3: it's plus money on them to get to six wins.

1547
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 3: I like the staff. I like the defense too much.

1548
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with it. But I've already heard some

1549
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 3: people who are like, these guys are the sleeper to

1550
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 3: bet in the conference, stucky. Are you that enthusiastic or

1551
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 3: is it more just a number thing where it's like

1552
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 3: you got them at fifteen or fourteen to one and

1553
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: twenty two to one, you got to pull the trigger.

1554
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this I'm in on Central Michigan. I'm not betting

1555
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: the win total over like it could just go. It

1556
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: could just be a complete rebuild year and they lost

1557
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: a ton. It's gonna there's new schematic changes. I do

1558
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: like the defense, some of the pieces. If the defensive

1559
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: line comes together, the interior specifically, and they got to

1560
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: replace Kent at that corner they lost to the NFL,

1561
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, can they get more? They only had two

1562
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: innerds last year. This is like the regression team. If

1563
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: everything's gonna fall into place, it's with this team. And

1564
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: by the way, like it's the MAC, there's not that

1565
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 1: big of a difference between these teams, Like, oh, Buffalo,

1566
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: everyone likes Buffalo to win it. I mean Central Michigan

1567
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: late in the year is going to be like a

1568
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: four point dog, three point dog at home, depending on

1569
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 1: how a year goes. Like that's just what I have

1570
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: it now. So but this is the regression team. Like

1571
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: last year, they're injuries, they lost their top five receivers

1572
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: to injury. They're they're quarterbacks. They have used four quarterbacks.

1573
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: How about turnovers, they were minus eighteen and turnovers or

1574
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: minus seventeen. The year before that there were minus seven.

1575
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: Year before that they are minus eighteen. There are minus

1576
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 1: forty two parable margin in the last three years. If

1577
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: there was ever a team that's just gonna get every

1578
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: bounce for the entire year, it's Central Michigan this year.

1579
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: And look, what did I say earlier? You want to

1580
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: come in, you want to run the ball this year

1581
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 1: against this MAC schedule where a lot of the top

1582
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: teams are gonna pull off upsets. I think they're weaker

1583
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: in the front seven then in the secondary, and they're

1584
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 1: gonna do that now central mission does have some concerns

1585
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: the offensive line, but that's Drinkle specialty. They're gonna They're

1586
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: not gonna run the triple option. I've heard some people

1587
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: say that it's gonna be more of like a power

1588
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 1: spread with some triple option kind of principles mixed in.

1589
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna see more twelve personnel than you did last year.

1590
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: But there I mean, the lose, they lose a lot,

1591
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of aarants with this team and

1592
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: if it does come together, I mean, look, they have

1593
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: a new head coach to offensive coordinator, defense cordator the

1594
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: first time ever in their roles at the FBS level,

1595
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: So you got to throw that. The depth is really shaky,

1596
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: which why I don't really want to bet the win

1597
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: total because that's in as a state at pitt at Michigan,

1598
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: Like if there's injuries again and they wear down, and

1599
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of aarians with this team, which

1600
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: is why I like the upside of just taking a

1601
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 1: flyer on a twenty three to one shop around. There's

1602
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 1: like twelve to one. But their road league games are Akron, Kent,

1603
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: Western Michigan and BG not bad. They havevoid Ohio Miami,

1604
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois and Ball State. And guess what new team

1605
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 1: late in the year of the top five projected teams

1606
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: for in my book, only two of the top five

1607
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: they're playing. I don't have a lot on there. Sorry,

1608
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: it's who I have my projected finish. They get them

1609
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: both at home late in the year, so they want

1610
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: to make a move like right, bg UMass Western Michigan,

1611
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: ACRON Eastern Michigan. This is all I care about is

1612
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: the conference late, Like they could win through three or

1613
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: four game to start and then you got Buffalo, Kent State, Toledo.

1614
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: There's going to be an opportunity.

1615
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 5: There.

1616
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 1: So a lot of variants with this team, but there's

1617
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: some things that I like. Fire up chips. I'm taking

1618
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 1: a flyer on CMU Douck. I want to throw this

1619
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: out here. When it comes to chapin at oc, you

1620
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: bet a ton of SCS football. He basically kept them

1621
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: from being like a two win team because their defense

1622
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: is continually stunk like they nearly the last two years.

1623
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: They just consistently threw scares into ap top twenty five

1624
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: teams at the FCS level.

1625
01:13:58,680 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 2: That was all him.

1626
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 3: If they're going to win, they need to score forty

1627
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 3: eight points to do it, and they were playing some

1628
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 3: of the big boy powers out west.

1629
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 5: Like, what is your overall feel for what he.

1630
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 3: Could mean to this offense from day one, even with

1631
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 3: a complicated quarterback room to sort out.

1632
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you could pair well with the head coach.

1633
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 2: I think one thing that you saw from a descending

1634
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 2: Central Michigan program over the last several seasons is there

1635
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 2: was just such a lack of energy and enthusiasm, which

1636
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 2: was spirited by head coach Mac who's no longer there

1637
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 2: after he retired and they parted ways. So I think

1638
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: you're going to get a vibrant energy within the program.

1639
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 2: We've already seen the positive culture changes immediately with Drinkle,

1640
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: and I think the OC Jim Chapin, You're going to

1641
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 2: see a really dynamic offense. You're going to see some

1642
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: spread power. They're going to use twelve personnel, they might

1643
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 2: even use some thirteen personnel out of the gun, which

1644
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 2: is unique. They're going to vary their tempos. Sometimes they'll

1645
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 2: go lightning fast and other times they'll kind of take

1646
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 2: their time and be methodical. I saw a lot of

1647
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 2: traditional run schemes, so inside and outside zone read option

1648
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 2: some RPO game. I've seen some QB powers, so it'll

1649
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 2: be interesting to see if Lagaz is going to be

1650
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 2: able to be the guy to run that. But they

1651
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 2: did run a lot of QB power. They ran some

1652
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: wildcat where they had various personnel that were taking snaps

1653
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 2: from out of the gun that were not the quarterback.

1654
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 2: And then you had mentioned Chisholm, the receiver from eastern

1655
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 2: Washington who had all the receiving yards. It was almost

1656
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 2: exclusively underneath stuff. He was a great run after the

1657
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: catch guy. So get the ball out to him in

1658
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: space and let him go to work. And I think

1659
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 2: they have two guys and Tyson Davis and Lanks Lewis

1660
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 2: who could kind of just jump right into that mold.

1661
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 2: So I think there is a framework together for what

1662
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 2: this offense wants to be, and the dichotomy between what

1663
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 2: it was and what it will be is not going

1664
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: to be as extremely felt. I trust drink All to

1665
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 2: shore up the offensive line. It'll be a work in progress,

1666
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 2: but I trust him to shore it up. The schedule

1667
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: is really fascinating. It's hard to bet over five and

1668
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: a half on a unit that's likely to start zero

1669
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: to three. Although I think Central Michigan could be against

1670
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,799
Speaker 2: the number gold. I think this scheme actually really matches

1671
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 2: up well with San Jose State and what they are

1672
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 2: unable to do defensively. So we should take a long

1673
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 2: look at CMU plus twelve and a half in week one.

1674
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: Then they catch the pitt Panthers before the backyard brawl,

1675
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 2: so to be real interesting to assess where they're at

1676
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 2: in week two and what that number might be. And

1677
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 2: then in week three they go to the Big House. Well,

1678
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 2: what does Michigan come off of at OU? Where do

1679
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 2: they go next? At Nebraska? Thirty three and a half

1680
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: or so could be a real enticing number on the

1681
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 2: Chips in that regional matchup there, They're always going to

1682
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 2: really care about the Michigan MAC Championship games, and so

1683
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 2: we'll see an added focus on Eastern and Western Michigan.

1684
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 2: There's certainly gettable games with Kent State U mass Bowling

1685
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 2: Green Akron. I think that this is a group that

1686
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 2: could make strides and get better and get sharper and

1687
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: crisper in season. I'm just waiting on the future now.

1688
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 2: I could ease into the position and certainly be talked

1689
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 2: in at twenty two to one. But if they are

1690
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: good against the number, but maybe oh to three in

1691
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: the record, does that future price get even better? Do

1692
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 2: we get twenty seven to one, do we get twenty

1693
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 2: nine to one? Do people think they suck and we

1694
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 2: just can jump in and get a really good price

1695
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: and we see this team grow in season sixteen to one,

1696
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 2: thirteen to one, twenty nine to one. Those are all

1697
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 2: significantly different numbers. So you want to make sure you

1698
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: put yourself in the best situation possible to succeed. We

1699
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 2: always preach that here at Action Network, go get the

1700
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 2: future with the absolute best price. Then it gives you

1701
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: an opportunity later on if you want to squeeze out

1702
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 2: a little profit by hedging or whatever else. Put yourself

1703
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: in a situation to try at least be attempt to succeed.

1704
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 2: So but I think Central Michigan's in for a really

1705
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 2: interesting season. I think the offense will be much more dynamic.

1706
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 2: I like some of the pieces they have on defense.

1707
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 2: Good up trending program here.

1708
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: Fire Up Chips. I'm in for a little future.

1709
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:44,839
Speaker 4: Fire Up Chips.

1710
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 3: Bowling Green Falcons seven and six last year six and

1711
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 3: two in conference play fourteen to one to win the

1712
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 3: MAC this time around win total at six and a half,

1713
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 3: but huge plus money on the over three starters returning

1714
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 3: all on offense one hundred and twenty first in returning

1715
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 3: production one twenty seven on defense. That's obviously an issue

1716
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 3: to keep an eye on from.

1717
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 5: The get go.

1718
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 3: For the record, I think Scott Lovelod did the right

1719
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 3: thing for himself and for the program just getting out

1720
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 3: of dodge.

1721
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 5: I think last year was the year to break through.

1722
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 3: They had the best tight end maybe ever in the

1723
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 3: history of the MAC, a game breaker through the air.

1724
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 3: They had a veterans steady handed quarterback and beaslak Terry

1725
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 3: and Stewart looked poised for a monster year at one point.

1726
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 3: They played their hearts out in near upsets of Penn

1727
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 3: State and A and M. They went five straight to

1728
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 3: set up a late matchup against Miami. They dig themselves

1729
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 3: a hole, they claw backed within two in the fourth quarter.

1730
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 3: It's fourteen to twelve and bam, a seventy two year

1731
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 3: touchdown pass and another late tight end, a TD twisted

1732
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 3: the knife. We're now ten years removed from BG playing

1733
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 3: for a MAC title. It's time for a new era

1734
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 3: and a new identity. And here comes Otti George from

1735
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 3: Tennessee State late in the spring window. I think he's

1736
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 3: already proven at the SCS level. It's not just a

1737
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 3: pr higher. He had his FCS boys playing really hard nosed,

1738
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 3: physical football. They made the FCS playoffs for the first

1739
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 3: time in a level years. He was able to do it,

1740
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 3: not just in a one or two year turnaround. He

1741
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 3: was there multiple years. He understands what it takes. So, Doc,

1742
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 3: you just did a great job of explaining some of

1743
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 3: the tempo, some of the packages, personnel identity, overall aggressiveness

1744
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 3: that we're going to see for a team like Central Michigan.

1745
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 3: So when you look at Bowling Green, what they want

1746
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 3: to do and playing that bully ball, playing slower, is

1747
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 3: it too early to tell if they're going to be

1748
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 3: nice under candidates in terms of totals on a weekly

1749
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 3: basis when you consider the fact that this defense returns

1750
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 3: zero starters.

1751
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting question. Eddie George comes in from Tennessee State.

1752
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 2: He started late in the process, wasn't hired until March ninth.

1753
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 2: Certainly they're not going to be as exciting offensively as

1754
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 2: last year's rendition of Isaigi Zumba. The losses are just

1755
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: stunning offensively. Harold fan And had fifteen hundred and fifty

1756
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: five yards and one hundred and seventeen catches. He was

1757
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 2: just such a safety net in that scheme. Terry and

1758
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 2: Stewart was explosive. He's gone. They lose the top four

1759
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 2: running backs and top four pass catchers overall from last

1760
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 2: season's offense. This year, the offensive line is going to

1761
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 2: be the strength of their offense and should allow them

1762
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: to kind of do what they want when they deploy

1763
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: their run heavy scheme. We're going to see a lot

1764
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: of two tight end sets. We're going to see a

1765
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 2: lot of running the football. Two to one run pass

1766
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 2: ratio will not be out of the question here. We

1767
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 2: might even see some thirteen personnel, which is not nearly

1768
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 2: as common. The tight end room for Bowling Green actually

1769
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 2: does have some athleticism in size. I think Florida transfer

1770
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 2: Arles Boardingham could actually produce here as a pass catcher

1771
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 2: in this offense. Drew Pine. I don't know if I'm

1772
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: really wowed by Drew Pine, but it better be him

1773
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 2: because the backups are really, really bad. There's a significant

1774
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: drop off between QB one and QB two here at

1775
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 2: Bowling Green so really not going to be good if

1776
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 2: he is hurt for any part of the season, which

1777
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 2: they struggled with quarterback injuries in the past, so they

1778
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:50,799
Speaker 2: certainly could be Defensively, a full and complete rebuild, almost

1779
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 2: all production is lost at all three levels. Thirteen of

1780
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 2: the top fifteen tacklers are gone, guys like Joseph Sipp,

1781
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 2: brock Horn, Charles Rosser, Oladokun. The corner was really good,

1782
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 2: major major losses. I think Bowling Green struggles to make

1783
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: a bowl game this season. I betting under six and

1784
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 2: a half was one of the first win totals I

1785
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: bet two months ago, and I think it's an under

1786
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 2: in the FCS opener, and then I look to fade

1787
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 2: this team against the power four teams on their schedule.

1788
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 2: There could be some value on Bowling Green once their

1789
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 2: perception shifts on them late in the schedule. They've bet

1790
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 2: can't em u Akron, so that power run game could

1791
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 2: perform well against those groups. But I think again, it's

1792
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 2: it's a struggle to make a bowl game. I've got

1793
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 2: the ceiling at six and six. I think it's closer

1794
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: to five and seven, and if they're not going for

1795
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 2: that sixth win, in their last game of the season.

1796
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: That UMass spot could be really really treacherous for Bowling Green,

1797
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: so under on the regular season win total for me,

1798
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 2: no shot at the futures. What do you do?

1799
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 3: Clos start before they really get it figured out offensively,

1800
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 3: and then, as Duck just said, all these defensive losses,

1801
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,799
Speaker 3: every single dude with a capital D on their defense

1802
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 3: is gone.

1803
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 5: So who are you really relying on being those.

1804
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 3: Disruptive players that can up there havoc numbers even inside

1805
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 3: the top one hundred.

1806
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean I project them. I project BG at close

1807
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: to six wins, so you can get over six and

1808
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 1: a half plus one ninety eight or over five and

1809
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 1: a half plus money, which I don't hate. But there's

1810
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty with this team with all of

1811
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: the turnover, I mean, their defense was absolutely gutted. The

1812
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: brand new schemes, brand new coordinators, brand new coach one

1813
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: hundred and thirtieth and returning production. I might talk myself

1814
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 1: into a little future though. I like the George higher again.

1815
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: I like the violent approach for this year in the MAC.

1816
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: I think Ohio's overrated is just the game. Look, they

1817
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: have a buye before Toledo and I think Toledo's run

1818
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: defense might be sketchy. The defense. They want to be

1819
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: more violent upfront, and it's gonna be a different attacking style.

1820
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna need George's kid Atchupunk who's been at UCLA

1821
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: miamih doesn't really play. They're gonna need him to step up.

1822
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 1: I like some of the transfers they brought up in

1823
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: This could go one of two ways. It could go

1824
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: completely sideways. But if it's a brand new team late

1825
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: in the year, they can definitely make I haven't projected

1826
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: to be a favorite in five of the final six.

1827
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 1: It's the Mac. There's just not that big of a difference.

1828
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: And shop around. I mean there's like eight to one

1829
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: out there, but you also can find twenty to one.

1830
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,759
Speaker 1: I think it's circa at that price. Like Baselac stunk,

1831
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: so am I a Pine guy. No, he wasn't there

1832
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: for spring either, and he's got to pick up this

1833
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: brand new offense late, which isn't really ideal. I don't

1834
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: know if he's traveling all summer. What I think fine

1835
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: comes for big money. Yeah, I mean, I think this

1836
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: is a good approach to play this year. They do

1837
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: play the top three but also the bottom three and schedule.

1838
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: Their late league road games are EMU, Kent and UMass.

1839
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: I can't really talk off the roster, but from a

1840
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 1: variance perspective, schedule perspective, how they're going to play, I

1841
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: think that fits Little Flyer twenty to one on BG.

1842
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm in, I'm in for a little bit.

1843
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 3: All right, Let's close up this conference Western Michigan. The

1844
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 3: Broncos six and seven last year, five and three in

1845
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,679
Speaker 3: conference play. They're fourteen to one to win the MAC

1846
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 3: as well, win total at four and a half. Got

1847
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 3: to lay some serious juice on the over though. Five

1848
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 3: starters returning two on offense, three on defense, one hundred

1849
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 3: and twenty third and returning production one hundred and thirty

1850
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 3: seconds specifically in offense.

1851
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 5: Let me list my.

1852
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 3: Concerns straight away. Zero starters back on the offensive line.

1853
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 3: I think that is going to have a domino effect

1854
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 3: on everything that they try to do. They want to

1855
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 3: play really slow, but that also needs means they need

1856
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 3: to be efficient and they have to have some level

1857
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 3: of explosiveness through the air, and I don't see that

1858
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 3: with this quarterback situation, which at best, as Murky brock

1859
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 3: Lowry has all of nine career pass attempts. The receiver

1860
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 3: room has some intrigue, but in terms of who they

1861
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 3: brought in. But if this quarterback can't be more than

1862
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 3: a game manager, how much will that even matter. If

1863
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 3: Brady Jones wins this job, by the way, I think

1864
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 3: that could be a good sign for the passing attack

1865
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 3: to be featured a bit more. Jalen Buckley has been

1866
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,839
Speaker 3: a stud in the past, but if this line stinks,

1867
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 3: or if they just consistently stack in the box against him,

1868
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 3: I don't think that's a great look for what they

1869
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 3: want to do offensively. I think they're going to get

1870
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 3: bullied on the grounds. Nowhere to hide, you know, in

1871
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 3: terms of scheme or play calling. The defensive side of

1872
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,759
Speaker 3: the ball, when you can't stop the run, the secondary

1873
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 3: could be very solid. Hearing good news about Jordan Thomas

1874
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 3: at corner. He came in in the transfer portal. But

1875
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 3: we're looking at zero to four, and if that's the

1876
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 3: hole that they have to dig out of, can they

1877
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 3: do it with an offense that I think has far

1878
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 3: more questions than answers. At Michigan State home against North Texas.

1879
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 3: At Illinois home against Toledo woof I see three wins

1880
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 3: for sure, but after that, I think they're going to

1881
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 3: have to overperform significantly to get to five wins.

1882
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 5: And to catch this over I don't see it.

1883
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 3: And if Buckley gets hurt, there's no more Nixon to

1884
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 3: come in at, you know, as the robin to his

1885
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,919
Speaker 3: batman or sometimes they switch those roles. He's off at UCF,

1886
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 3: so I think this offense could fall off a cliff

1887
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 3: if he gets banged up, is inefficient, or you know,

1888
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 3: loses time to the injured list in general, So I'm

1889
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 3: going under on the Broncos. You know, I'd like the

1890
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 3: head coach, but I just don't see them being able

1891
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 3: to do it with the quarterback play and the offensive

1892
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 3: line being an issue.

1893
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 5: Stucky will let you finish.

1894
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 3: After all that optimism and positivity about the last team

1895
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,759
Speaker 3: we just discussed in Bowling Green, how are you feeling

1896
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 3: about Western?

1897
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty close to marketing. I mean I project

1898
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: them by two so maybe a little over, but I

1899
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: like I like their skill position players. They don't forget

1900
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: about coalle Coban at running back. The Michigan transfer, I

1901
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: think he could actually give them some juice, and I

1902
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 1: like some of their wide receiver transfers, Blake Bosman tight end.

1903
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is the question. I mean, they lost

1904
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 1: four good starters. Two are on the Dolphins right now,

1905
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: and I'm surprised Gideon and their center didn't get picked up.

1906
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: And the right tackle Cherlin was really good. And West

1907
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: and cush here are both on the Dolphins right now.

1908
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna need three transfers to hit. They have zero

1909
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: starts at four positions at the FBS level on the

1910
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: offensive line, but there's good size there. Like the offense

1911
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: has potential. I think Jones should win the job. I'm

1912
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 1: gonna be paying attention to that. But there's I mean,

1913
01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: there's nine career FPS pass attempts the quarterback position. They're

1914
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: more mobile this year, We'll see. I mean, this team

1915
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 1: was so experienced last year. They were top fifteen in

1916
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 1: the country and the other outside of the top one hundred.

1917
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: The defense. You mentioned the secondary at the safeties they

1918
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: got back. I'm worried about the cornerback. They got to

1919
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: hope that Thomas, who was good at Eastern Kentucky. They

1920
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: better hope that he's good because he's gonna be their cornerback.

1921
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 3: One.

1922
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: They lost Cone to the Ravens and Washington's gone, Russell's gone,

1923
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: So their cornerback position is something that I'm watching linebackers.

1924
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: They lose their top three, the defensive line was gutted.

1925
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 1: They lost eleven of their thirteen sacks. But they weren't

1926
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 1: great last year, so there's a lot of questions here.

1927
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,879
Speaker 1: Their road league games aren't awful, UMass and iu EMU Miami.

1928
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: They host Ohio and Toledo, but they don't get kent Ackron,

1929
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: which doesn't hurt. They're going after like power fork cast

1930
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: offs and if they hit, hey, maybe this team has something.

1931
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 1: But for me, this is a pass. I don't have

1932
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: a really a hot taking one way or the other.

1933
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 1: Watching the quarterback battle, watching how the offensive line comes together.

1934
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: Definitely going to be a team that I keep my

1935
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: eye on down the stretch. They lost some key guys

1936
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,600
Speaker 1: in the spring portal on defense that really hurt, like

1937
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: Jefferson to Louisville, Nelson and Green on the defensive line

1938
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 1: to Bandy in Memphis. So yeah, really worried about the defense.

1939
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 2: Duck.

1940
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 3: Would you see let's start with the quarterback battle. Do

1941
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 3: you have any insight info in terms of who's going

1942
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 3: to come out of that and if it ends up

1943
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 3: being a timeshare or they're trying to figure out that

1944
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 3: non conference schedule wall, you know they're getting there, you

1945
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 3: know what kicked in the dirt by some of those

1946
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 3: paycheck games. Do you think they're going to have any

1947
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 3: positive momentum or be healthy coming out of the non

1948
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 3: conference schedule to take advantage of some of these fortuitous

1949
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 3: scheduling spots.

1950
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 2: I mean, hard to build momentum when you're likely h

1951
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 2: and four. I think the major question is who's going

1952
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 2: to replace Hayden Wolf at quarterback for Western Michigan, And

1953
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 2: we just don't know. It's a battle. It's a kind

1954
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: of a neck and neck race, and there's very little

1955
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: experience coming back at all. They want to pass the

1956
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 2: ball a little more, so they're going to put more

1957
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 2: on the shoulders of either Brady Jones or Brock Lowry maybe,

1958
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 2: you know. I think Buckley can show some things this year,

1959
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 2: and I think he's a pretty decent MAC running back,

1960
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 2: but the depth behind him is lacking. They actually have

1961
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 2: a couple pretty decent receivers. Christian Leary comes in from

1962
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech had some highlight reel catches against Miami, A

1963
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 2: couple of years back. The offensive line seems to be

1964
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 2: decently short up. I think you're gonna have maybe a

1965
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 2: couple guys that you'll need to really step up and

1966
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 2: probably play above their belt class, which yeah, maybe that

1967
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 2: could happen. And then Bosma is always a really solid

1968
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 2: third down and red zone target. So there are a

1969
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: couple of pieces there, but just going to be a

1970
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: schedule that is not conducive to really gaining a lot

1971
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 2: of momentum. It's gonna be again hard with the non

1972
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 2: conference schedule the way it sits, minus the FCS game,

1973
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 2: and then you've got Toledo Miami, Ohio. Just not I mean,

1974
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,719
Speaker 2: it's a good coach, and I think it's a coach

1975
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 2: that knows what he's doing with this program, but I

1976
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 2: just don't see a lot of spots where it's going

1977
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 2: to be piling up the win. Not a real strong

1978
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: opinion for me either way. Just not a lot for

1979
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 2: me to love about this year's Western Michigan Group O line.

1980
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 1: They need the depth that's really shaky, Saragert. First of all,

1981
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: they need the transfers to hit. They got some big

1982
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 1: ten guys that just haven't played. So how do you

1983
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 1: project them. Oh, it's difficult because they're gonna need the

1984
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,560
Speaker 1: offense'll be good because this defense it's not gonna be

1985
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: able to carry them.

1986
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 3: Let's go around the horn quick before we wrap the show.

1987
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 3: Who do you have in your MAC title game?

1988
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 5: Who do you have winning it? It's a little bit boring.

1989
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 3: I know that Candle will give me pause and lose

1990
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 3: one game on a Tuesday or Wednesday night that he shouldn't,

1991
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 3: But I'll go ahead with Toledo winning the conference beating Ohio.

1992
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 5: Who stuck doesn't.

1993
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 3: Even think we'll get to Bowl eligibility, But it's nice

1994
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 3: to stick my neck out there a bit. I didn't

1995
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 3: think coming into the show that it would be such

1996
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 3: a polarizing pick.

1997
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 1: There are a lot of camps injuries, so this might

1998
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: not be my pick in the MAC Manifesto, but my

1999
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 1: favorite win total is Ohio under to go right in

2000
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: the face of you. As of right now, I'll say

2001
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: Jason Cannell does not have any upsets this year until

2002
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: ford Field Central Michigan upsets Toledo in the MAC Championship.

2003
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 3: Fire up chips love to see it, Duck, It's going

2004
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 3: to be hard to top that. What are you seeing

2005
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 3: in your crystal ball here.

2006
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 2: Well, favorite win totals are acron under in bg under

2007
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 2: MAC Championship game. I've got Toledo and Buffalo getting to

2008
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 2: Detroit or it's a real slip after that. It's boring.

2009
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 5: I know.

2010
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 2: So I think Buffalo is going to win the MAC

2011
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 2: this year, I'll call it. I think CMU will surprise Thom.

2012
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 2: CMU will certainly surprise some teams this year.

2013
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 5: All right, guys, the G five is now wrapped. We

2014
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 5: got it on ice.

2015
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 3: Go through your podcast feed you can listen to every

2016
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,560
Speaker 3: single team on Deck. Are the power for Colin and

2017
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 3: Stuck are going to strap into the mothership and take

2018
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,640
Speaker 3: you through every single team. Hopefully they can make it

2019
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 3: through the ACC episode that always goes three and a

2020
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 3: half hours every year. That's a labor of love and

2021
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 3: as Stuck you said earlier in today's show, we are

2022
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 3: going to be in Chicago, Illinois on August twenty third,

2023
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 3: Joe's on Weed for a week zero watch party. You

2024
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 3: don't have to sign up, you don't have to do

2025
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 3: anything online, just be there at eleven am for the kickoff.

2026
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 3: We got farm again from the Emerald Isle case State

2027
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 3: Iowa State. What a way to start the season. We're

2028
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 3: going to be there for fifteen hours cutting up. We

2029
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 3: would love to see you there talking bets, firing in futures.

2030
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 3: Week one plays and the drinks will be flowing all

2031
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 3: day and all night long. The whole crew is going

2032
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 3: to be there. Colin, Stuck, Duck, and myself. Thank you

2033
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 3: so much for listening for Stucky and Duck on my Calabreys.

2034
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 3: This has been the Big Bets on Campus podcast.

2035
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,800
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2036
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