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Speaker 1: Him, Rachel, Zoe, and you are listening to Works for Us,

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Speaker 1: where we talk to people about what works for them

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Speaker 1: in their relationships and of course what doesn't. Okay. So

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Speaker 1: finding the right people to collaborate with can be an

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Speaker 1: absolute challenge for most people, but for our guest today,

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Speaker 1: they were actually able to find their kindred spirits and

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Speaker 1: dream collaborators in each other so that they could thrive

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Speaker 1: together in business and even more importantly, in friendship. The

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Speaker 1: Lady Gang is a celebrity driven brand for women by

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Speaker 1: women from the minds and mouths of Kelty Night, Becca

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Speaker 1: Tobin and Jack Benneck. The popular Lady Gang podcast since

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Speaker 1: its inception in twenty fifteen, has boasted over one hundred

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Speaker 1: million downloads Holy crap, making it one of the most

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Speaker 1: popular podcasts for women in the world. The show has

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Speaker 1: been nominated for a Webby Award, which by the way,

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Speaker 1: my husband created People's Choice Award, and in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: was named Podcast of the Year. We are so excited

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Speaker 1: to say that we have backa Keelty and Jack of

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Speaker 1: the Lady Gang on Works for Us today. So welcome, ladies, Okay,

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Speaker 1: hi having us. I'm so happier here. This is so

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Speaker 1: much fun. And by the way, just so you know,

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Speaker 1: I disinvited Roger today. Okay. It was like, there's literally

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Speaker 1: If I had known he created the Webbies, then I

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Speaker 1: that either, So it's kind of like bullshit. You know, listen, listen.

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Speaker 1: Winning is overrated, honestly, brand listen to me. I think,

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Speaker 1: like I always you know, they always say like, oh,

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Speaker 1: There's so many variables. I mean, you see it in

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Speaker 1: awards season every year, like who should have? Who could have?

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Speaker 1: way we should think about this. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I thought? And you have the same fashion moments at

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Speaker 1: like on the carpet. Honestly, it's true. And sometimes you

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Speaker 1: don't win, but you still win, and sometimes the winners

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Speaker 1: lose all the time. Time, that's what you're gonna wear

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Speaker 1: to win your Oscar thoughts about that, But you're not wrong.

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Speaker 1: Don't you love it when the perfect like storm happens

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Speaker 1: like those moments really just those really just make me happy.

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Speaker 1: And in those moments, those are the seconds that make

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Speaker 1: So you guys, I want to just talk for a

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Speaker 1: minute about your individual backstories because I know that you're

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Speaker 1: obviously all very accomplished, your badass, your ballers, you all

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Speaker 1: that you were a rocket. I just need to spring

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Speaker 1: that out because that's like a major thing. And now

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Speaker 1: are you wearing hose? A panty hoe and like a

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Speaker 1: nice curl. Rachel is a perfect person, asked this question.

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Speaker 1: We have an ongoing fight in Lady Gang. Is it

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Speaker 1: Thank you are cool. Thanks, I'm not thank you. I

425
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Speaker 1: tape this and put it as a real on Instagram.

426
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Speaker 1: I think you're cool. I think the best moment of

427
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: her life. I feel like such cool vibes. Because do

428
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: you know what? To me and Roger and I always

429
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: say this, it's the people that like are self deprecating

430
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: and so hyper aware of like what their sort of

431
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: comfort zone is, what they want, and they're so honest

432
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: about it. To me, the people say they want the

433
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: invitation and they want. Those actually are the cool people,

434
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: because it's the people to me that only care about

435
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: getting the ination, that pretend the thing they don't care

436
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: about is getting the invitation. For me, the actual cool

437
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: people are the people that say what they are and

438
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: are like living their truth and like, I just think,

439
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: like being honest and funny and candid is what actually

440
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: makes you cool. I swear, and I've always thought that way.

441
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: It's the people that you know, have come into my

442
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: life in a very big way over the years that

443
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: basically spend every waking moment of their life trying to

444
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: tell me exactly who they aren't and don't want to be.

445
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: But it's exactly who they are. And they're hypocrites, you know.

446
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of those. So I actually

447
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: think the royal cool people are the people that are truthful,

448
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: because I just, you know, I don't that you know, obviously,

449
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: you guys are familiar with the term desperate, and I

450
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of it's my middle name. No

451
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: it isn't, because I actually think by you saying how

452
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: many times can I stock Ryan Murphy? Like, to me,

453
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: that actually makes you so fucking cool, you know what

454
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean? Honestly, you know, we were school parents for

455
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 1: many years together. And he's awesome actually, and can you

456
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: compare another job? But now I feel like I feel

457
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: like he fully knows you. Yeah, I mean he was

458
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: a wonderful, wonderful person to work for. I think I

459
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: got spoiled. He's absolutely brilliant. And I got so spoiled

460
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: that being like my first TV job, because after that,

461
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: I would get these scripts and be on these sets

462
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, this is some rinky thing bullshit,

463
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: and They're like, no, it's just not Ryan Murphy. I'm like, oh,

464
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: damn it, You're gonna end up back there. Trust I

465
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: promise life just like you go like this, you go

466
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: in like a circle so that you have to kind

467
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: of be kicked to the side and down and upside

468
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 1: down a little to know how badly you want to

469
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: get back to where you once were. And you know,

470
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: they always say it's like getting to the top is

471
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: easier than staying there, right, It just is. And that

472
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: applies to every job, no matter what it is. It's

473
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 1: just a really applies to the iTunes charts when you're

474
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: a podcaster that's for show launch big and then that

475
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: algorithm really sucks you. But I was gonna say, you're

476
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: talking about working together. I think this secret sauce for

477
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: us is this level of compassion and honesty. So it's

478
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: like we do not let shit simmer, like if something's

479
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: going on, if someone's fucking up, if someone is you know,

480
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: doing an emailing and a weird like that's actually mostly me,

481
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: Like we nip it in the bud right away. And

482
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: then also having compassion for each other and the way

483
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: we work, Like I am an a type, like I

484
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: sat up all day yesterday writing emails and then like

485
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: sent them out this morning, and like like listen, listen

486
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: to Jack's like I got to work at eleven o'clock

487
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: at night because that's when I'm productive. That is not

488
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: my schedule, but I'm very compassionate to like, Okay, I'm

489
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: not going to hear from her about this font at

490
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 1: eleven m because that's not her, you know, and starting

491
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: having that understanding of not trying to change people. The

492
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: secret it, I think that's a really important part because

493
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of this. It is acceptance

494
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: and I think working together as you know, as friends

495
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: and business partners. Now, I mean, was there ever a

496
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: time where you guys were not friends and it was

497
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: like just strictly professional and you guys were like, or

498
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: have you always just been this like super synergistic girl group.

499
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: It's funny because we actually none of us were really

500
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: that close when we started the podcast. Like Becca and

501
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: I hadn't even met each other. I don't even like her.

502
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, who is this Bet? I don't know her.

503
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: I don't know her. Her and I had never met before.

504
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: And we met for the first time as we were

505
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: going into our pitch meeting for our network and I

506
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I'm Jack. She's like hey, and Becca,

507
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: And then we go in the room and we're like, yeah,

508
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: So our podcast is based on like Mimosa Brunches with

509
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: your bestie, and we just kind of went into it.

510
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: But that's kind of part of the secret sauce too,

511
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: is because we none of us were really that close

512
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: to begin with. We've grown to know each other through

513
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: the podcast and through being business partners. And that is

514
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: the reason why I feel like it's kept us, like

515
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 1: our relationships so good because we're still not best friends.

516
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: We don't hang out outside of work for the most part,

517
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: like because our work is so fun too. We get

518
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: to know each other on the podcast. Course, that's where

519
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: there's like a level of professionalism and respect for one

520
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: another because we don't have this weird dynamic going on

521
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: underneath the surface of like years and years of friendship

522
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: and weird stuff bubbling up to the surface. So that's

523
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: kept us kind of in a really really good, healthy place. Well,

524
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: I actually like love your business. I mean, you guys

525
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: have done a book, you're obviously on a show, your

526
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: podcast is hugely successful. I mean, did you ever think

527
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: that like the brand would manifest itself in so many ways?

528
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: And like what do you share the same goals for

529
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: the future or do you just kind of like roll

530
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: with it because you know, for me, people always ask

531
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: like how do I do what you did? Or how

532
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: did you become? And the truth is I never really

533
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: scripted it. I never really laid it out. I just

534
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: kind of wing my whole way through life. And if

535
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: you ask anyone on my team, I mean I literally

536
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: like I really do wing it because I find that

537
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: if I plan it, if I try and set these

538
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: goals and if I don't hit it, I'm going to

539
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: feel like I failed. And you know, I'm such a

540
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: virgo that it's like and I never get complacent, but

541
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: I think I always feel like I have so much

542
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: more to do. So I guess with with your brand,

543
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: you know what, like have you done everything? Do you

544
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: have a million more things to do? Like what? What?

545
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Like what's the plan if any?

546
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: Or do you just roll? This is like the beauty

547
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: of it is that Kelty's the one who makes these

548
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: like manifestation lists, you know, they're like taped to her

549
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: mirror there. She gets really in the nitty gritty with

550
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: herself about what she wants to accomplish for herself in

551
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: the brand. And so but I will with that being said,

552
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: there was never any roadmap because we didn't actually think

553
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: that you could make a living podcasting. It was a

554
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: side hustle. And so when you're thinking about something as

555
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: a hobby and sort of just an outlet, you're not

556
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: the expectations are so low. So yeah, and so the

557
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: first ad that we sold, it was like, oh, well

558
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: that's cool, but it's like five dollars and we're not

559
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: going to be paying our mortgages off of this thing.

560
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: So Kelty was achieving all of her journalism and entertainment,

561
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: journalism goals. I was still acting, Jack was still doing

562
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: her brand, and we would come together to have this

563
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: like fun time for an hour a week. And it's like,

564
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: when you're busy focusing on all these other things that

565
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: you have these high expectations for, you come into this other,

566
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: this other like venture so lightly yeah, so lately freedom

567
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 1: to just go through the doors that open and have

568
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: the meetings that come to you. And it really did.

569
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: We did work our asses off, not to say that

570
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: we didn't invest a ton of time and energy and

571
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: our own money into it in the beginning, but like

572
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: it was almost so easy because we didn't have expectations

573
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: and we never in a million years thought that we

574
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: could ever build any kind of like brand. To us.

575
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: It was hilarious that it was even referred to as

576
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: a brand for the first two years. So it's like

577
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: so great it's been. It's been wonderful. And as far

578
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: as like long term goals go, I'll let Kelty takeover

579
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: because obviously she has like eighty five goals for us.

580
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: Bring out your boujo, no, you know what, you know,

581
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: what's interesting is that like we started this and then

582
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: I knew something had clicked Rachel when we like I

583
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: used you, well, you're very well known, and so when

584
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: you walk anywhere, people are like, I think I just

585
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: saw Rachel Zoe. Like some people probably come up to you,

586
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: some people don't. But like for me being on et,

587
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: like really the only place that people really like double

588
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: looked at me was like on airplanes. That was my

589
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: like real people, Like I'd walked on an airplane and

590
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: people would be like I know you or they be

591
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: like hey, and then I was like, you don't know

592
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: me in real life? And so what with Lady Gang?

593
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 1: Like about a year in Becca was always getting recognized

594
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: for Glee, but like Jack and I would be like

595
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: at Home Goods or we'd be at Target and like

596
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: people would be chasing us across the parking lot and

597
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh my god, I love Lady Gang

598
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: so much. Like a girl came out to my Home

599
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: good she was like, oh my god, I knew you

600
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: were here because I saw your husband in the towel aisle.

601
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: Like it's like yeah, like it's just that's when I realized, like,

602
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: something real is happening here. How can we harness this?

603
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: And our mission has always been to make women feel

604
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: less alone and I really love We had Bethanny Frankl

605
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: on the podcast in December and I was talking to

606
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: about philanthropy and it was like, you know, we want

607
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: to give back. We've been doing all these charity things,

608
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: but then it's like, are we allowed to make money

609
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: off the podcast? Like what if I just want this

610
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: to be my full time job now? And she was like,

611
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: I feel like the more successful I am, the more

612
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: I can give back. And she's like, and I put

613
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: the two in two different piles. I don't do ten

614
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: percent of proceeds I do. I make all the money

615
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: as Bethanny Frankel, and I give back in a big way.

616
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: And I think that's how Lady Gang is moving forward,

617
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: is that you know, we're going to continue to make money.

618
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: We'll do books, we'll do clothes, we'll do whatever comes

619
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: our way. That's fun in a collaboration where we can

620
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: serve our girl, But at the end of the day,

621
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: we really want to serve women and help them and

622
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: and and continue to give money and goods to, like,

623
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, people who are not as privileged as us.

624
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: And so that's kind of the big goal. I mean,

625
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: I would love to be a fifty million dollar brand,

626
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: but like you know, we'll see you will be I

627
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: don't work on it. I just want to say we

628
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: launched our subscription box at a very similar time to

629
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: when you started yours, and you know it's now transition

630
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: and we have since given up maybe well we were

631
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: also we were all in our shipping everything, ourselves in

632
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: our garage. So setting yourself up for sleep success is

633
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: so so important. I am self admittedly a very light,

634
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: very bad sleeper, which is one of the reasons why

635
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: the perfect mattress is absolutely crucial for me. We all

636
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: deserve to have quality sleep on a mattress that's exactly

637
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,360
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Speaker 1: and a lot in part on that side of it.

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Speaker 1: To Roger and the sort of operational side of it,

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Speaker 1: actual box that we do every season, we wanted to

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Speaker 1: actually create this entire membership lifestyle program for women so

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Speaker 1: that they came yes to get their curation every quarter,

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Speaker 1: but that we wanted them to stay there and create

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Speaker 1: this whole membership shop and all these experiences and basically

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Speaker 1: be like almost like an AMEX Platinum card for women

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Speaker 1: to come in shop, get styled and feel safe and

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Speaker 1: get access they can't get anywhere else. How did the

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Speaker 1: pandemic affect like your relationships with each other if they

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Speaker 1: did at home with the podcast? I mean, I imagine

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Speaker 1: the podcast even went probably even way bigger over the pandemic, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, people, I think the biggest difference is before

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Speaker 1: the pandemic, we I mean, we had been doing this

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Speaker 1: for five years, two episodes a week, never missed a

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Speaker 1: single episode in that entire time, and as an amazing person,

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Speaker 1: so like, we needed to make sure that one of

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Speaker 1: us didn't end up getting sick because then we wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be able to put out a podcast episode. So obviously

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00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: everything transferred to zoom over the pandemic. So that was

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Speaker 1: honestly the hugest logistical difference for us. But it has

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Speaker 1: given us so much freedom because now Becca moved to Austin, Y.

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Speaker 1: I travel a lot, so now we can podcast literally

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Speaker 1: if the three of us were accordable from each other.

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Speaker 1: So that actually has been a positive in our lives

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Speaker 1: because before, I mean, Becca wouldn't have been able to

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Speaker 1: move at all because we need her twice a week

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Speaker 1: for the podcast. That's amazing. That has really screwed us. Rachel,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for asking is that all these other people have

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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: come out with podcasts. I mean, honest, the pandemic was

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00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: wonderful for us, but then it also gave all these

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Speaker 1: celebrities her words that other TV shows, in their movies,

708
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: they got bored, they weren't getting enough attention, and so

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Speaker 1: they were like, I think I'm going to launch a podcast.

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Speaker 1: And then they did, and then they went to the

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Speaker 1: top of the Apple charts and I had meltdowns. Let's

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Speaker 1: be strew. Yeah there's that too, But I want to

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Speaker 1: give you a lot of credit because you know it's funny.

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Speaker 1: Um when podcasts first came out, you know, literally everybody

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00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: was like, Rachel, you have to do a podcast. Use

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Speaker 1: you a podcast? You how what? They're like, you can

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Speaker 1: do it from your couch, you could do it. I

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Speaker 1: didn't really understand it because I'm not you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not a commuter, which I'm my commuter friends and employees

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Speaker 1: are the most podcast you know verse, I guess this

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Speaker 1: is the word. But I was sort of alone on

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Speaker 1: an island because I'm always a little late to understanding

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Speaker 1: the newest sort of platform and podcasts. And I was like, Puck,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't understand when am I going to listen?

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Speaker 1: When when do I not have a child in my

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Speaker 1: ear or my team kind of like pulling me into

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Speaker 1: a room somewhere. It was just like unfathomable to me,

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Speaker 1: and so I guess a couple of years later, it's

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00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: just the conversation started happening and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: feel like there's two billion podcasts. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: should do a podcast, And what happened to your point

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Speaker 1: in the pandemic? You know, the opportunities kind of just

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Speaker 1: came and Roger and I were obviously working like animals

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Speaker 1: at home, and it just became such for me, it's

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Speaker 1: such a fun I don't want to say easy, but

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. It's a fun, very organic thing because way

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Speaker 1: more than television. For me, you know, I was a

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Speaker 1: psych major. I was not a fashion major. I was

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Speaker 1: a psych and social major. So for me, actually doing

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Speaker 1: this in talking to you guys, for me is the

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Speaker 1: most natural thing I've ever done in my career because

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Speaker 1: I just feel like I get to hang out with

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Speaker 1: cool women like you guys and just shoot the shit

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00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: and like talk about life and the things that whatever.

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Speaker 1: You know, And so for me, you know, having Roger

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Speaker 1: on it as annoying. No, I'm just kidding, but like

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Speaker 1: we've been together. We're celebrating almost thirty not almost thirty years.

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Speaker 1: August twenty ninth will be thirty years together from our

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Speaker 1: first day. So holy. So when it kind of came to, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, we want to do this relationship podcast with

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Speaker 1: you and Roger, that to me became so fascinating because

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Speaker 1: I was like, I love to get into people's heads

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Speaker 1: and I love to get into what makes them work,

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Speaker 1: what their magic sauces, what all of that. So that

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Speaker 1: was actually the impetus. But you know, when when we

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Speaker 1: started getting all these ads and sponsors, I was like,

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00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: really they wanted like I was literally like you, I

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00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: was like a head tilt. I was like, they want

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Speaker 1: they want to do like us. Okay, cool, So I

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Speaker 1: said it, but I was one of those people. Of course, no,

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Speaker 1: I actually agree with you, because everybody's doing a podcast,

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Speaker 1: but I don't disagree with you. What's really great about it,

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Speaker 1: rage is that, um, when we first started, right the

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Speaker 1: ads that were coming to us were man ads because

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Speaker 1: people really doing podcasts were meant there were sports, and

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Speaker 1: there was like Adam Carolla and Howard Stern technically like

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Speaker 1: like you know radio, we had like yeah, we had

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Speaker 1: like Zip Zip recruiter who we love great, like the

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Speaker 1: great thing, but it was like a lot of men sords. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we could not get a female brand to sponsor

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Speaker 1: the podcast. What's happened now? Everyone starting these podcasts during

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00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: the pandemic and so many A listers and recognizable names. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: it's a challenge to still like make room for us.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like every major brand,

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Speaker 1: I mean, our brand sponsors are Vogue, Chanel, like Disney

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Speaker 1: like me are dead. When we got this Chanel ad,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I was like, yeah, what,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're a shoot for the invite. I

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00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: don't think you're waiting for that invite. But it's like

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Speaker 1: that they're going to get everywhere. The level was never there,

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00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, the level that level of ad is only

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00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: because the A listers have come and recognize what people

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00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: are now doing podcasts that they can go and be like, oh,

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00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: we should be working in the podcast world, you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's an incredible gift because I podcast or the

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Speaker 1: jam Yeah, and I actually think, well, I also what

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Speaker 1: I actually really love about podcast is that you can't

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Speaker 1: see anybody, you know what I mean. It's actually what

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Speaker 1: made me love Clubhouse. I actually loved that no one

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00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: there wasn't like a narcissistic element to it. It wasn't

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00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: like you had to get here and makeup, you had

792
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: to like be judgy. It was just you're actually just

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00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: listening to voice, which actually makes you listen rather than

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00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: get distracted. So I actually thought that was fantastic. But

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Speaker 1: I think you guys have created a movement. I think

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Speaker 1: you're so impressive. I really think all of you are amazing,

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Speaker 1: and I don't I mean, I think you've fully made it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you're gonna I'm sure the best

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00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: is still yet to come. But I am super impressed

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Speaker 1: with all of you. What's the biggest I mean, if ever,

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Speaker 1: have you ever gotten in like a fight and just like,

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00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: did it last or was it dramatic? Or you could

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00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: say no, by the way, I mean, it's usually when

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00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: I melted down and do something stupid. Kelty has what

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00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: we like to call it kelt down every couple of

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00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: months when things just get like very overwhelming, and then

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00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: she might go into our Facebook group and start sharing

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00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: personal details about her life that she shouldn't stop. And

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00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: then Beckn I need to have an intervention, and then

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00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: we have like a group phone called to really, you know,

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Speaker 1: get Kelty out of that one space. That's like our

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00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: biggest conundrum that ever happens within the Lady Gang. I

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00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: really think that, like the thirty five thousand girls in

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00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: our Facebook group are my best friends. So like when

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Speaker 1: I happened to like be going through a hard time,

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00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: I may like overshare. It's like who I am as

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00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: a human. I think everyone's my friend, and then those

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00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: people will like take that information and blackmail me with it,

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Speaker 1: which is like, Okay, Kelsey, do you remember what I

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Speaker 1: said as I was coming up in the industry, you

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Speaker 1: have to have ten eyes open all the time. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Because I'm telling you, being naive in this industry will

823
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: just never help you. It will only hurt you. And

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00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: I am the same. I am guilty of the same,

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00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: and I have learned the hard way. So Kelty's she's

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Speaker 1: not even naive. She knows better, but she We had

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00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: to have a conversation during COVID where I almost drafted

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Speaker 1: a contract to say I will not post in the

829
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Speaker 1: Facebook group without checking with my business partners to the

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00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: content going up, Like it was like three strikes and

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Speaker 1: you're out. She had like thirteen strikes and finally we

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00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: were like, oh, we know that you love sharing and

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00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: we know that Like Kelty was also fun fact one

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Speaker 1: of the original bloggers, Like she was one I could

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Speaker 1: see that, and she made friends by sharing her life

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00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: and she really is somebody who she just genuinely wants

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Speaker 1: to do that, like it's it's her way, it's her

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00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: therapy if you will. By the way, I think listen

839
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Speaker 1: to go to that for a second. I think social media. Look,

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Speaker 1: if I shared, if I was more that way, I'd

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Speaker 1: probably have ten million followers, you know what I mean.

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00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: I have three and a half million follows. The reality

843
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: of it is I think the people that share and

844
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: expose and really feel they really show the real vulnerable

845
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Speaker 1: moments and things like that. You know, I try to

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00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: share enough, but I really I really keep a lot

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00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: in to it tight, you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any right or wrong to anything

849
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: on social I think your social is your it's you know,

850
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: how you approach social is very interesting because I think

851
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: it's how much you choose to share, and I think

852
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: everyone has a different level of comfort with that. The

853
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: problem that I'm hearing here not to place you know, therapists,

854
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: but I think I think no, I think the I

855
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: think you can share, but you can't share on others behalf.

856
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Once you bring other people in, you

857
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: get in trouble. If it's you sharing, you you got

858
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: to do you you know what I mean. So I

859
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: think that's it. Like if you want to take them

860
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: to the gynecologists, like cool, yeah, she will, I will.

861
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: And she just took her Instagram following two doctor diamonds

862
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: where you did, did you diamond facial? Got that chin back? Baby? No?

863
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: But I actually learned a really hard lesson. Um, I've

864
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: learned hard lessons over the last six years with this

865
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: because I would I love all these these followers and

866
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: I do consider them like friendly And recently I had

867
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: um a fan of ours who was a longtime fan

868
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: and had been dming me. But I there's like all

869
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: those sections of dms now, like where you can't see

870
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: who's dm ing and like I don't really I can't look,

871
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: and then like I might see Jacks, but I don't

872
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: see this on he I guess this fan had been

873
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: dming me for like months and I hadn't liked it

874
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: or responded or whatever, and they took it very personally

875
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: and like left the lading and stopped listening to Lady

876
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: Gang because they didn't feel like we were friends anymore.

877
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is he doesn't even respond

878
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: to like our dms either. I haven't spoken to my

879
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: mother in two weeks. Like that that is who I am.

880
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: And like when we were on our TV show, producers

881
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: would be like healthy didn't respond to my text. They

882
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, that's how she is. So we lost

883
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: fans because of it. So it's like maybe I've opened

884
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: myself too much, and so I think it's always cool

885
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: to address it. I just think address it and be like, guys,

886
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: we have so much going on and like I can't

887
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: I'm overwhelmed and I can't stand talk of everything. And

888
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: if I don't respond to you, I'm sorry, I put

889
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, And then it's kind

890
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: of just an overwriting apology and let them kind of

891
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: sit with that, like you're talking to them. Yeah, you know,

892
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: I think that's helpful because it's true. How can you

893
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: respond to everybody that texts your dam too, that's crazy,

894
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: you know. Well, you guys, I am endlessly fascinated with

895
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: all of you. This has been so fun for me

896
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: because I always like marvel at girls that can work

897
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: so closely together, maintain a respect for one another, not

898
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: get in fights all the time. And I I, you know,

899
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: I always say women are really hard sometimes and at

900
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: the same time great women are the best, you know,

901
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: And I think that there are secrets to the success

902
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: of female relationships for sure. But I just love seeing you, guys.

903
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: I love hearing you guys. I love seeing your energy,

904
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: you know. And I love the brand and I think

905
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: it's awesome. I love what you stand for, and I

906
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: love that you were one of the first you know

907
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: so and I actually I'm saying it here and now

908
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: I think you're fucking cool. Just you know, all of you.

909
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm literally about to go into the office and write

910
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: on my whiteboard ten eyes open, and it's going to

911
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: live there forever. You must have ten eyes open. That

912
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: should be on your manifest if I could, if I

913
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: could leave you with anything, please please open. My kids

914
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: actually say mommy has eyes behind her head. You guys,

915
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: Now I have to ask you like just a few silly,

916
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: fun questions that we always end with just because it's silly,

917
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: um and it's a little bit like newlywed style, like

918
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 1: you kind of answer on each other's behalf. Okay, oh,

919
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: one of my favorites that I can ever not ask

920
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: because it's always the funniest answer, what would each of

921
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: you get arrested for? And you can't say yourself, It

922
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: has to be off to answer for, Like what would

923
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: Kelty get arrested for? Oh? Healthy would do? Go Jack?

924
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: She's not a rule breaker, so this is hard. What

925
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: were you going to say? Oh, you're right, she's not

926
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: a rule breaker. It's hard. She loves to follow a

927
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: rule she does, although she would get arrested for some

928
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: type of terrible driving, like reckless driving. She is the

929
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: world's worst fucking driver. There you go, there you go.

930
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: You should be locked up already, Becca, I already know,

931
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: I already know what your you would get arrested for.

932
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: But okay, what would Becca get arrested for? Him? Sweet?

933
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: What do you think you said? You talking Ryan Murphy?

934
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: Like finding his house or standing outside the school or something.

935
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: I think Becca would end up getting arrested for some

936
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: sort of a vengeance. Yes, I think you could be

937
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: a secret murderer or somebody that wronged somebody that she

938
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: cares about. That's how I am you would Becca. Are

939
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: you a Virgo? I'm not, but I have a lot

940
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: of clothes virgo girlfriends. I'm a Capricorn, but the same

941
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 1: though my son's a Capricorn, were the same. I actually

942
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: held Caius in to make him a Capricorn. Oh my god,

943
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: I didn't. I did, I did. I did not want

944
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: to sadge and so I literally said to my Iob,

945
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: who's also a Virgo. She was like, you need to

946
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: hold him into the twenty second and lo and behold

947
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 1: twenty second he came. Jack would dodge a capricorn. Jack

948
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: would get arrested for public intoxication. And I'm pretty sure

949
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: she has before. Yes, no, I haven't, like right ten

950
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: thirty am, like a mid day, a midday like forgot

951
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: to wear Panama Road or something on four or five. Listen,

952
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: she's pretty lane, you guys, this is what she should

953
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: be arrested for. It. By the way, I think Roger

954
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: would get arrested for that. He always says I would

955
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: get arrested for like having a temper tantrum at the

956
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: airport for like someone yelling at me at security or

957
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: something because they wanted to take my bag, um and

958
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: like check it at time, like I'm going with it

959
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: under the plane if you check that, literally check whatever's

960
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: in your soup. Roger has held me back. I'm like

961
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: they're like, I'm sorry, ma'am. We have to take it.

962
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: There's no like whatever on the like small planes to

963
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,479
Speaker 1: like an island or something. I go. I will either

964
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: sit on it, I will go under the plane. But

965
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: it is not going under without me and Roger. My god,

966
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: you're going to jail and I don't know you for real,

967
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: for real, real good okay, okay, a last one, last one,

968
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: last one. I'm just trying to make it a good one.

969
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, m okay. What would

970
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: be your last meal, not that you're dying, God for

971
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: a bed, Jacks would be Jack sandwich sandwich with chips

972
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: in it, yea, and a chocolate chip cookie. You know, Jack.

973
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like you'd be best friends with Roger. Him

974
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: and I like are a kindred spirit. You really are,

975
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: like he just wants to live like a male Penny

976
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: Lane and like you meanwhile he was like an investment banker.

977
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: But trust me when I tell you like he's living

978
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: a double life. I know. I feel like we need

979
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: to be bestia. I promise you you would be. That's amazing.

980
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: So Kelty doesn't eat real food, so it's the veggie

981
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: burger Burger, but which one, oh from fat burger. They

982
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: have an impossible burger with a skinny fry and a

983
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: diet coke. But I've recently given up diet coke again

984
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: for the hundredth time in my life. Oh my goodness,

985
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: I pull it from Roger. It's really he on needs

986
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: down to like half of one a day, but like

987
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: it used to be really intense. No Asper team, guys

988
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: anything appeam no none drink alcohol. Just don't have Asper team. Becca.

989
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: Becca is like a fancy bitch. So for me, it's

990
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: like she wants to go out somewhere where the seating

991
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: is leather, and she's getting like a like a she's

992
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: she would go where salt Bae is feeding. Okay, like

993
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: she's having a salt Bae meal. I think like it's

994
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: like the Chicken and the Tomahawks steak with an expensive

995
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: wine and like, well, now she's living in Austin where

996
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: there's delicious, delicious high Leila. Here is Leila, Plela. What

997
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: is it called like salt bay seasoning? No, like you

998
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: know a salt bay guy that does a little that

999
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: you're what is so salt Bay is like a hot

1000
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: chef and he feeds you. He comes out to the table.

1001
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: He's looks so sexy. He's like in a white tank

1002
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: top in a little like olesome glasses and he comes

1003
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: out and he starves you. The food in it. The

1004
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: last thing he like takes the salt and he goes.

1005
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: He became like a meme, like a social media meme.

1006
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: You go look up stadl have a salt bay. Oh

1007
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: my god, stop it. He looks like he's your man,

1008
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: like a lead in the aga. Yes, he's very sexual

1009
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: and if you want to get the um, if you

1010
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: want to get salt bad in La. He opened a restaurant.

1011
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: It's three hundred and thirty dollars just for the steak. Wow,

1012
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: a guaranteed salt base sighting. Anyway, Lily, would that be

1013
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: your last truth? Um? I mean it would be something

1014
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: like inst like buy the water with like seafood and wine,

1015
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: like it would be something like that. Okay, Okay, I'm

1016
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: with you. I'm it's Rachel, I'm there with you. I'm

1017
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: thinking like Portofino, Positano, something like that, some amazing, like

1018
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: something like just really heavenly. Yeah. I'm also picturing just

1019
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: where I'm sitting right now. So I got lost in that. Yeah.

1020
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: And then whatever you what your hair, your hair, it

1021
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: sounds like what perfume you're wearing. Definitely in a klftan,

1022
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: no matter what it is, eating my last meal and

1023
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: a calf dan for shure and diamonds. Wait, Rachel, let's

1024
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: just end with this story. I had a calftan disaster

1025
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: that I can't wait to share with you. So I

1026
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: was judging Miss Universe and the dress I wanted was

1027
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: not available from like the rental house that you wear

1028
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 1: like buy a fan or you rent a fancy dress

1029
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: if you're a regular bitch like me. Yeah, and so

1030
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: I win in the morning before the flight, and I

1031
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: was like, I need something. And then I sent this

1032
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: picture to Marchella and I was like, I just held

1033
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: it up. I didn't even try it on. I was like,

1034
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: what if I just do rich lady kaftan. She's like chic,

1035
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: And so then I didn't realize it was a fourteen,

1036
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: which is out my size. And then I got to

1037
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: Miss Universe in Miami and I put the calf tan on.

1038
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: It was fucking explosive. And then on top of that,

1039
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: I got this idea throughout Miss Universe. It's so glamorous.

1040
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: There's so much makeup, there's so much hair I got,

1041
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: There's so much sequence everywhere everything I was so much

1042
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: I got. I got lost and I put in a

1043
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: clippin bang as well, and so I just thought, you, okay,

1044
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: she wasn't. It's like, how toltdown. I need you to

1045
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: see the photo too. Like I love Kelty and normally

1046
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: I tell her she looks beauty, she looks beautiful always.

1047
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, this was like the most missed

1048
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: fashion moment that has ever existed. Oh shit, do you

1049
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: know what. It's not even the calftan that's killing me.

1050
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: It's the hair situation. I know if I had done

1051
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: what happened fun, I just it was the hair and

1052
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: makeup team I got really actually doesn't even look like you.

1053
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: I know. I use Zendeia as a hair inspiration at it.

1054
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: That was a mistake, Like it was just it was

1055
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: the prettiest. I know it's anything so literally a washcloth

1056
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: with like a rubber band. Who is that? That's your profile, peck.

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Speaker 1: And so here's this story. Is I text to my

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Speaker 1: mom because like it's it's worldwide, there's like five hundred

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Speaker 1: million people watching. I text my mom, who's like a

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Speaker 1: real stage mom, and I was like, did you see me?

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Speaker 1: And she just replied, yep. That's how bad it was.

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Speaker 1: My mom couldn't even love me. Baby, you look unrecognizable.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm recognizable. That's why I'm so freaked about. Like,

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Speaker 1: if you actually showed that to me, I actually, in

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Speaker 1: no life would have been like, oh you look, I'm

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Speaker 1: the interesting there. Like I wouldn't have even thought that

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Speaker 1: was actually you. I know. So anyway, not everything. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I won't be your calftan ever again. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: that that's not true. You just chose the wrong one.

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Speaker 1: You have to get a hair. I think it was

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Speaker 1: the glam. It wasn't even the calf tan. Don't blame

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Speaker 1: the calf tan. It was the hair. But these how

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Speaker 1: things go wrong. That's why you are who you are,

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Speaker 1: because there are so many of us, insecure, fashion loving

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00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: people who can't make right choices in Hollywood. And that's

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Speaker 1: why stylists and having experts is so important because if

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Speaker 1: you if we are left to our own devices. Honey,

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Speaker 1: we've all seen them before they got a stylist, pictures

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Speaker 1: on the red carpet. We're Ashley Tisdale two thousand and

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Speaker 1: three with good Listen, you do you and don't run

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00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: from the calf Tan. It's just the hair and makeup.

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Speaker 1: I say this till I'm blue in the face. Hair

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Speaker 1: and makeup is equally as important as what you wear,

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Speaker 1: sometimes even more so. I hate to say that as

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Speaker 1: a stylist, but true and parting word. Okay, I love

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Speaker 1: you guys, talking love you so much. I feel cool. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having us. This is our first fight

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Speaker 1: because Kelty won't shut the fuck up on your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you the time. Okay, So that was

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Speaker 1: pretty incredible. I have to say I had heard about

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Speaker 1: the Lady Gang girls, and you know, have a mutual

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Speaker 1: friend with Kelty, but I kind of didn't know how

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Speaker 1: awesome they would be. And I kind of just felt

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Speaker 1: like I was talking to girlfriends in a room that

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Speaker 1: I had known for so long. And I think the

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Speaker 1: most impressive thing beyond the fact that they are such

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Speaker 1: like women for women, that they are all so different,

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Speaker 1: which is why I think Lady Gang as a brand

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Speaker 1: really resonates with people, because I think every girl woman

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Speaker 1: can relate to one of the three girls, and they're

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Speaker 1: so incredibly different, which is so great. I also love

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Speaker 1: how honest their stories are and how they came from

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Speaker 1: you know, not very much and just wanted to make

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Speaker 1: it and got creative on how to do that. And

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Speaker 1: we're early into the podcast world, which is so big,

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Speaker 1: and I was incredibly impressed, and I love their mission.

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Speaker 1: I love how they speak to him, and I love

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Speaker 1: how many doors they opened for female podcasts, for advertisers

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Speaker 1: and everything else. So that was so much fun. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I have the highest high of this week. My

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Speaker 1: kids started day camp and you know, every day a

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Speaker 1: camper can get an award, and they both come home

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Speaker 1: with like different things that they got awards for, like integrity, honesty, empathy,

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Speaker 1: all those things. So already a proud mom. Caius walks

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Speaker 1: through the door and tells me he got the biggest award,

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Speaker 1: but then he didn't really tell me anything after that.

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Speaker 1: He just handed me the thing that circled all the

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Speaker 1: amazing things, honesty, empathy, integrity, kindness, sharing, all the things,

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Speaker 1: and then Counselor sent me this huge video of a

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Speaker 1: ceremony where all the boys groups eight through twelve, out

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Speaker 1: of all the campers, he he got the biggest award

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Speaker 1: where everybody was cheering for him and everybody like stood

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Speaker 1: up and he got this huge thing and it was

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Speaker 1: like the most prestigious award, the most amazing camper award,

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Speaker 1: And I literally cried. Roger and I are such dorcs.

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Speaker 1: We literally watched the video. I mean, that might be

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Speaker 1: like the biggest thing that's ever happened in his life.

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Speaker 1: He was recognized, he was so excited. So that was

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Speaker 1: a big high for me. I think a low for

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Speaker 1: me is that I've been in my favorite place for

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Speaker 1: now almost two weeks, working from the Hampton's, which I'm

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Speaker 1: very grateful and blessed for, so not to sound like

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Speaker 1: I'm complaining, but I will say I haven't stopped working

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Speaker 1: since I've been here, which is a good thing because

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Speaker 1: we're incredibly busy, and again I'm very grateful. But I

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Speaker 1: think going to the beach like more than once would

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Speaker 1: be cool, But again, not a real life problem just

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Speaker 1: sort of thrown that up there. Okay, guys, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget to listen to works for us. Go to

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Speaker 1: our Instagram, follow us at work, Stop four dot us,

1141
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: and download us wherever you get your podcasts. And I

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Speaker 1: hope you loved this episode as much as I do. Bye,