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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome in. I'm Doug Gottlieb, and this is all ball,

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Speaker 1: all basketball, all the time. And as much as I'd

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Speaker 1: love to review for you, what's wrong with the Washington Wizards?

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Speaker 1: They stink? I mean, the big thing with the Wizards

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Speaker 1: stinking is that once you start playing the non playoff teams,

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Speaker 1: that's when you have to start winning games. And and

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Speaker 1: at the time of this recording, it's Wednesday morning. Right

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Speaker 1: after we saw Duke smash Kentucky and Kansas hold on

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Speaker 1: to beat Michigan State. UM right after that, right before

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Speaker 1: this recording, they just lost to the Dallas Mavericks, a

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Speaker 1: team that faint playoff hopes. And now the studden you

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Speaker 1: start to go, okay, there's major problems in that locker room.

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Speaker 1: I'll get to that. I'll get to some some Lebron

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Speaker 1: what I've seen from the Toronto Raptors as well as

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Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics and the controversy nontroversy with Jamal Murray

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Speaker 1: dropping what was it, forty eight but going for fifty

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Speaker 1: as the buzzer expired. We'll get to that in a second,

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Speaker 1: but first let's let's take a deep dive in to

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Speaker 1: the Champions Classic. First, we saw Kansas and they did

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Speaker 1: so without the SUSA. UM. They got out to a

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Speaker 1: huge lead and held on against Michigan State. And look,

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Speaker 1: Michigan part part of what happens is we become very

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Speaker 1: results oriented. We do this every single year every year

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Speaker 1: in the Champions Classic, in the Mali Invitational, uh, in

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Speaker 1: the Bahamas. We we overreact to results instead of watching

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Speaker 1: the actual game itself. UM, I'm gonna get designed, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get to R. J. Barrett, I'm gonna take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive in on Kentucky and some of their issues

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Speaker 1: and flaws in a second. Um. But to the to

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Speaker 1: the Michigan State guy, it's like, well, look, we just

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Speaker 1: didn't make shots in the first half. That's where we're

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Speaker 1: down four. Should be pointed out that Dietrich Lawson was

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Speaker 1: five of eighteen, right, and even though he's not a

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Speaker 1: The idea that Michigan State not making shots was the

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Speaker 1: reason they lost. I think one of the big issues

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Speaker 1: they don't have great athleticism, you know, they're kind of

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Speaker 1: who's really good shot making lead guard, like he's not

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Speaker 1: going to tear into you defensively. Neither is Matt McQuaid

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Speaker 1: and neither is Nick Ward. So even though they bring

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Speaker 1: some very good athleticism off the bench, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: when they're gonna try and beat you, like, those are

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Speaker 1: the three of if not this, those are three, right

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Speaker 1: or three three of their best players along with the goings,

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Speaker 1: and they can't necessarily change how you play. Now again,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they can't beat you. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that they can't beat you. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: they'll always get into me on the Duke's last National

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Speaker 1: Championship or next to last NAP I get the national

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Speaker 1: Championships confused when they had John Shire, remember that team?

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Speaker 1: They had John Shire, they had uh Nolan Smith, and

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Speaker 1: the start of the year, they played Arizona State Ian

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Speaker 1: they were doing the Duke thing where they were trying

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Speaker 1: into every passing link, climb India and Arizona State was

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Speaker 1: just means that it's it's it's prohibitively more difficult to

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Speaker 1: That's why they lost to got blown out by Villanova

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Speaker 1: the the issue with Michigan State last year wasn't talent.

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Speaker 1: how Michigan Stay played. They didn't have enough good perimeter

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Speaker 1: And you know, James Jackson was probably best when he

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Speaker 1: still think they're likely to win the Big Ten. But

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Speaker 1: my fear, not in national games, is there's a lot

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Speaker 1: So I like, I think that one's gonna be fascinating

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Speaker 1: to watch, But I'm not selling all my Michigan State sock.

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Speaker 1: I'm just having smart Michigan State stock. As for Kansas,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't grind it's pretty good in me. And they

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Speaker 1: we talked about with Michigan State. So Day one, Kansas

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Speaker 1: play those. It's a no. Even when you lose that game,

428
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429
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430
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431
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432
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433
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434
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435
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436
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438
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441
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445
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446
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448
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449
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450
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451
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457
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458
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459
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460
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462
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503
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504
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Speaker 1: on your new business, Blowtorrents. That's pretty awesome, right, like,

508
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: I just love that you have a million things going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do, and uh, it's a lot of fun. I'll

510
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Speaker 1: get the hang up. All right. Um, um, First, you

513
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: coached in the j b A. Of course that's that

514
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: was LaVar balls Um Basketball League, which is four guys

515
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Speaker 1: in between you know, not playing. It was it was,

516
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Speaker 1: it's kind of honestly, there was a lot of usbl

517
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Speaker 1: to the league I used to play in, which was

518
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: in May and June. You play a ton of games

519
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Speaker 1: pro rules, although the players were much younger than than

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Speaker 1: the usb L. What was that experience like for you?

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Speaker 1: It was it was an eye opening experience from uh

522
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Speaker 1: as a coach because you know, you just don't you

523
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Speaker 1: realize and you get to see that's how many guys,

524
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: talented guys are out there, um that don't get the

525
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: opportunity to play in college basketball or didn't have the

526
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: grades the quala by to play you know, college basketball.

527
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: But they were all looked at and they were all

528
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: highly regarded, but for one reason another they didn't make it.

529
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: So I mean that you know it was a whirlwind experienced, Doug.

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Speaker 1: I mean they fit. It was about sixties and seventy

531
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Speaker 1: five days. I mean we may have had three days off. Um,

532
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, fit a bunch of games in all throughout

533
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: the summer, traveled the country from Trenton, New Jersey to

534
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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. We were all over the place. I had

535
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: a great time. It was. It was a gratifying experience

536
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: for me. Who's your best player? Our best player was

537
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: kicked by the name of Darrell Springer. He's a six

538
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Speaker 1: six guard out of Las Vegas. Um long athletic, could

539
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: run the one, played a little bit of two. Just

540
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Speaker 1: kind of a jack of all trade, did it all. Uh,

541
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,239
Speaker 1: he was a big time. He's pretty big time. He's

542
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: still on the tour actually overseas kicking but average about

543
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven points of game. Why Lamello decided to come

544
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Speaker 1: back and go to Spire, You know, I'd like to

545
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: take that this was LaVar's plans all this, uh, this

546
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Speaker 1: whole time. I know that, you know, giving LaVar credit

547
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Speaker 1: for having the foresight, the plan and executing the plan

548
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: isn't a popular stance, But I do truly believe that

549
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: since he pulled mellow out of Chino Hills. Apologies for

550
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: the phone in the background, but since pulled Mellow out

551
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: of Chino Hills, put him over in Lithuania, then had

552
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Speaker 1: him in the j b A, and then after the

553
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: j b A took him on this tour. It's just

554
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: it seemed to me like LaVar was doing everything that

555
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: he could to advance Mellows basketball development. I mean, we've

556
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: never seen anything like it as far as a dad

557
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: kind of coming in creating the league just so that

558
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: his son could play against older, stronger, more experienced competition

559
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: on the night in the night out basis. Not only that,

560
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Speaker 1: just to kind of get a whip of what it's

561
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Speaker 1: like to be a pro um on the road, playing

562
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Speaker 1: back to back, having to get up early flight, long

563
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Speaker 1: bus rides, et cetera. And you know meo path that

564
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Speaker 1: test with flying colors. In my opinion, Okay, there's there's

565
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: a there's a bunch there too. Let's let's unpack a

566
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: little bit of it. Um. I actually, I mean, like

567
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be I'm not super negative towards

568
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: LaVar because as you know, you played for my dad,

569
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Speaker 1: and you know that my dad would have you know,

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Speaker 1: had eve been live today, and i'd come out of

571
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Speaker 1: high school. I'm not sure he went have tried something

572
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Speaker 1: other than the normal path. You know, I went to

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Speaker 1: a different high school. I stayed back a year in

574
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Speaker 1: eighth grade. Um. Obviously not not the same, But the

575
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Speaker 1: idea is still trying to open up as many doors,

576
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Speaker 1: created as many opportunities for me to play in college

577
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Speaker 1: and then for me to play professionally. And I almost

578
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: wish she had been more involved when I came out

579
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Speaker 1: of school. I kind of shunned him today. You know,

580
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: I got an agent. Let's let them handle it, because

581
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: his basketball intuition was probably sharper than an agent's basketball intuition.

582
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: That that said, that said, why not just put him

583
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Speaker 1: on a legit pro team overseas with a really good

584
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: junior program and have the hands off and let them

585
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: develop the things that he doesn't do well in Australia

586
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: for example, or somewhere you know, in Spain. Maybe he

587
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: doesn't come back to the States for for two years.

588
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: But wouldn't that be better for his development considering he

589
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: has a ton of talent and he's bigger than a lonzo.

590
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: But the part, the holes to his game need to

591
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: be shored up before he comes back state side and

592
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: tries to play in the NBA. Yeah, though you make

593
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: some good points, they're doug And to speak specifically on

594
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: why LaVar may have not opted for one of these

595
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: top tier you know, Real Madrid or you know, somewhere

596
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: in Italy milan Um, these big time programs, because then

597
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, you lose control. So you know, and we

598
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: know that LaVar is all about having control, having but say,

599
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: being able to call the shots, being able to kind

600
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: of you know, put his or whatever stamp on the

601
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: city situation, and none of these big clubs would have

602
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: allowed him to. Now look look at this he played.

603
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: So Melo goes from Chino Hills to Lithuania and you know,

604
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: obviously it was you know, the lower level in Lithuania.

605
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: But isn't that to me practice games, the experience of Lithuania.

606
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: Isn't that better than playing a high school season Chino

607
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: Hills where you're playing against these schools you're beating by

608
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: forty and fifty points and you know, depending on the schedule,

609
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: you're just not really getting tested night, day in, day out.

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00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: From a practice perspective, Do you know how important it

611
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: is when you have some guys in practice, some absolute

612
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: dogs for your development. When you're going against guys every

613
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: single day that are going at your neck, you know

614
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: how that important that is to your basketball development. And

615
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: I think that's what Lavarre tried to recreate. He had guys.

616
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: He surrounded Mellow with guys to where in this league

617
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: that was gonna go at his next night and night out.

618
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: And I think Melo became a better player because of it.

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00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: How good is he, I feel like to me, I mean,

620
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: outside of R. J. Barrett Um in the two thousand

621
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: nineteen class, I think that he's you know, he's a prodigy.

622
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: He's a prodigious talent. He Um has a skill set

623
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Speaker 1: that I haven't seen someone that's sixteen years old at

624
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: that time, well, when he was sixteen. Now he's seventeen obviously,

625
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 1: but I was watching when he was six I've been

626
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: watching he's a thirteen, but but he really impressed me

627
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: at sixteen in this JPA league during the summer. We

628
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: were game planning, we were strategizing, we were scheming against him,

629
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Speaker 1: and it was literally like child's play for him. Doug.

630
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: He he moves at a different speed, he sees the game,

631
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: he thinks the game at a different speed, in a

632
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: different space, and he has all those alonzo and tangibles

633
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to offensively and being able to I

634
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: mean when it comes to pass, when it comes to

635
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: court vision, when it comes to you know, the play

636
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: slowing down like you're in the matrix, Mellow is always

637
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: a step ahead. He's always a pass ahead. And because

638
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: of that, I just feel like, you know, this kid's

639
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: talent on the next level, it will really shine through

640
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 1: once you put him around. And this year he's gonna

641
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: have some guys that's fire that are gonna help, you know,

642
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of showcase that talent. Rocket Watson is the name

643
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: that I think I need to I think you need

644
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: to remember a kid from Detroit absolutely was on fire

645
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: at the E y b l uh last summer and spring.

646
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: I got a chance to watch him, um along with

647
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: um you know, the big Kid and some other guys

648
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: they got. So all that to be said, I think

649
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a top ten draft pick. M he will.

650
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: I mean by the time he comes out, I feel

651
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: like he could be a top five puns. Yeah, you know,

652
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: the couple of things. And I'm interested to see him

653
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: play with fire because I want to see if he

654
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: can play this is it's gonna sound like a complete knock,

655
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: but I want to see if you can play real basketball.

656
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 1: I want to see if you can run a team,

657
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: if he can defend if because in all honesty, like

658
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: like as and I think I thought A Lonzo had

659
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: an incredible amount of talent. Alonzo has made himself into

660
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: a better athlete UM and he's always had really better

661
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: end to end speed than than it seems like LaMelo has.

662
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: Obviously LaMelo is bigger and longer UM and LaMelo's shot

663
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: is better than Alonzo's shots always always you know, had

664
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: that had that hitch off the dribble that he's been

665
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: able to get away with. But because he hadn't ever

666
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: really played pick and roll like he's had to learn

667
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: that on the floor. That's really hard to learn at

668
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: nineteen years old playing in the NBA, and then and

669
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: then he he lost this offseason to the knee, so

670
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: he built up his body, but he really didn't get

671
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: to have court time and work on his finishing shots

672
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: and didn't really understand defensive concepts outside of the way

673
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: that the balls have always played, which is full court,

674
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: pick up and anything. Also, Alonzo was too unselfish, advanced

675
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: passing the ball at you know, way too quickly instead

676
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: of playing within the normal pace of a game which

677
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: you'll play in the NBA, and he's still kind of

678
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: learning on the fly. I think that's my question for

679
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: Melo is can can they will inspire make him play

680
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: real basketball if they can get in and compete against

681
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: the other elite prep school teams, and if so, how

682
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: how does he function within that environment? That that's the

683
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: part that I'm interested to see. So that's a great question.

684
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: And you know, to Alonzo's to just quickly touch on Alonso.

685
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: To his credit, Alonso was able to average almost eleven

686
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: points of game, seven rebound, seven assists without being acclimated

687
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: to the NBA game. I think that Mellow Aspire will

688
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: have will adjust to the game a lot quicker. I'm

689
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: not certain that they won't run that to to one

690
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: all dog one dead. I'm not certain that they won't

691
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, pick up full and play that style um

692
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: and then offensively. Um. The thing about Mellow does is

693
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: that offensively, whether it be pick and roll, whether it

694
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: be you know, flopping sets, or whether it be whatever

695
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: you're running that day. Melo is smart enough to figure

696
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: this stuff out. Mellow can run a pick a role exficiently.

697
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: He knows how to make reads, he knows how to

698
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: make decisions at a moving at a bad speed. Um

699
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: he played under control a lot more than people give

700
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: him credit for. So I don't think there is going

701
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: to be that serious that longest basketball At the end

702
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: of the day, though, all right, let's let's get uh kJ,

703
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: let's get to the Lakers um. When I watched them,

704
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: I do I know that Lebron is trying to figure

705
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: out who else can take over a game, who we

706
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: can trust, Like, I do get that, but I'm still

707
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: also waiting for Lebron to play like Lebron, like, hey,

708
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: just screw it, everybody, get on my way. I'm gonna

709
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win a game tonight, just to show the

710
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: world who I am. There's this weird kind of thing.

711
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: There are moments and there are quarters where he takes

712
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: over and you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, he's still still

713
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: got it, and he does. He looks very, very comfortable,

714
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: much more comfortable shooting catch and shoot jump shots than

715
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: he ever as before in his career. And I do

716
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: think he's trying to fit in with a different system,

717
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: and sometimes you've done this when you fit in with

718
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: the system that you don't really fit in with, you

719
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: just kind of play and you're and people are wondering, like,

720
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: why are you letting the game come to you? Like, well,

721
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: that's what everybody's supposed to let it come to you.

722
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering why he hasn't broken out even once

723
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: yet and just gone, excuse my language, fuck, win this

724
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: game just to show them I'm still Lebron James. How

725
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: come do you think we haven't seen that? Well, you know,

726
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: I think he's still in in deferring mode. I think

727
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: Lebron is still in the mode when and I've seen

728
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: this before from Lebron. I saw it early on with

729
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: him and d Wade with the heat the heat struggle.

730
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: They were at one point, you know, nine and eight

731
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: during that two thousand level season when they made it

732
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: to the finals but eventually lost the Dallas. I saw

733
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: the same tendency from Lebron, and I think that that

734
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: is strictly it's a it's a new team, so we're

735
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: looking at it from Okay, the season has broken up

736
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: in eighty two games, you know, first thirty games, I

737
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: kind of I give Lebron about thirty games when he's

738
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: getting applimented to a new program to figure this thing out,

739
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: and then after that I think he'll will take more

740
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: of a role. Now the other part of it also,

741
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: this is your sixteen from Lebron, So the takeover aspect,

742
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: the bullieball, the things that we see from him in

743
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: the past, um physically, it just doesn't look like he

744
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: still has that on that night in night out basis,

745
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: especially on the second leg of the back to back,

746
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: I just don't see that from Bron. I don't seem

747
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: to see that same kind of spark that pep in

748
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: his steps to where he goes into take over mode.

749
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: And a lot of the two is defensively. You know,

750
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that that he or Lord the Lakers

751
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: are dialed in or giving up enough energy and effort.

752
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's a conditioning thing. I'll

753
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: be curious to see what the offseason looks like. But

754
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, you're six team coupled with that new program,

755
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: I think that you know, those are some of the

756
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: things that you kind of have to attribute to why

757
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: he's not doing Yeah, and I also wonder like, look,

758
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: you live in Los Angeles and it's been kind of

759
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: your entire life, right your I mean, your dad was

760
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: was a pro and an All star, and you know

761
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: you've kind of you've grown up into that. I grew

762
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: up in Orange County, which is for people who don't know, it's, um,

763
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, forty five minutes away. And even though I

764
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: work up in Los Angeles, it's it's there's a different

765
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: pace there, and um, it's one thing to Hey, I've

766
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: been to New York before and understand the energy of it.

767
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: I've been to the West l a before, and I

768
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: understand it's another thing too, where it's that that's now

769
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: your life, right your first. This is what we noticed.

770
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: And I've lived in Connecticut twelve In the last sixteen years,

771
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: we moved back to Orange County, which is not as

772
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: fast and it's not as not as there's not the

773
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: intensity that there is of Los Angeles, of New York

774
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: or New York. We moved back twice and both times

775
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: there was a good first six months where we liked it.

776
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: And when you love the weather, you love that people

777
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: are kind of into their own things, so they're not

778
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: as much into you, which is great. You kind of

779
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: can do your own thing. But the pace was it

780
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: was exhausting, It really was for us. And I also wonder,

781
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not making a big deal about him.

782
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: I don't he went to Diddy's like birthday party after

783
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: they got blown out by the raptors dot Kauai, Like,

784
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't like, look, he was gonna go to dinner anyway.

785
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have stars go to dinner with stars,

786
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: Like I would love to be invited that dinner. But

787
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: but the fact that you have to go like these

788
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: are there are things that you now have to do

789
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: that before you could just go to the crib and

790
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: have a guy cooked for you and watch a movie.

791
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: It's it's just different. And I also wonder if that

792
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: adjustment isn't isn't that combined with thirty four years old,

793
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: combined with sixteen years in the league, combined with maybe

794
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: not having the same offseason training before and trying to

795
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: fit in a new system and not having another guy

796
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: that can carry the team and not having the uh,

797
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, any sort of rim protection when Javail is

798
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: not in and suddenly playing back, like all of that

799
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: stuff might be wearing on him a little bit more

800
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: so than he thought possible. Is that is that in

801
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: any I agree, Doug. I mean it is a combination

802
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: of everything. But we gotta keep things in perspective. So

803
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: we're talking about all these things, right, the guy is

804
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: still averaging twenty seven points, eight, rebound, eight and six.

805
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: Now we take that for granted because we expect Lebron

806
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: to do that. Lebron can do that in his sleep.

807
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: But when are we going to take into account that

808
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: this is a thirty four year old guy with you know,

809
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: millions of miles on his body. Okay, more so than

810
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 1: the normal thirty four year old basketball player that's competed.

811
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: Because he's been eight state finals for a hundred game

812
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: seasons for the last eight years. And now you come

813
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: to l A. You are trying to make a dent

814
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: into the Hollywood, which he had. So that also includes

815
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: a lot of extracurricular activities. So he tries to keep

816
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: up this pace that he's kept up for basically his

817
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: entire career. And I'm not saying that that's the issue, Doug.

818
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying that at some point we have to understand

819
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: this man maybe a little tired. He may have lost

820
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: a half of steps and and or or he may

821
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: need thirty games to shake off this rust and they

822
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: really get warm before he's the Lebron that we all

823
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: know in our youth. Does Luke make it through the year,

824
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's all depends on the Lakers' dea. I

825
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: don't you know. I think if they win games, um,

826
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 1: he'll make okay. But but here's here's here, I'm sorry

827
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: to interrupting. Here here's why I ask. It's not that

828
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: they had a meeting with It's not that Magic had

829
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: a meeting with him. That happens, right, They don't play

830
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: well on the road, They don't have a defensive offensive identity.

831
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: You want to meet with your head coach. That happens

832
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: the somebody let it out there to Woch right, which

833
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: means somebody doesn't doesn't like, doesn't like what's going on there,

834
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: and so it it plants the seed where everybody gets defensive.

835
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: We're not gonna fire Luke, and you know with the exception,

836
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: but now Spoilstra, Riley stood by Spoilstra, but Riley also

837
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: hired Spoilstra, Magic and Polinka did not hire Luke Walton

838
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: Genie did so. I just you're going your best and obviously,

839
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: like look as they start winning games. But your best senses,

840
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: you know l a basketball better than most anybody in

841
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: the world. Your sense is say, are they in the

842
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Luke for the long haul? Um? I don't think so.

843
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: Just give him the track record of how Magic and

844
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: and Rob had started to clean house from a front

845
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: office perspective and an employee and staffing perspective. UM, I

846
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: read somewhere where Magic wasn't entirely thrilled about Luke's choices

847
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: for his staff. Um, he felt like, well this didn't

848
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: imagine said, but the kind of the scuttle button. Too

849
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: many Arizona bros on the staff. Um. Regardless of all that,

850
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: any time you have you know, Magic having to be

851
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: out in the front backtracking or validating Luke's job security.

852
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: Typically when an executive talking about someone's job security and

853
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: talk about they're gonna stay. Um, and I feel like

854
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: that's the death sentence, the hand rises on the wall.

855
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: So the way I feel, I don't think Luke makes

856
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: it through the season. I think they make the change,

857
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: maybe Mark Jackson, maybe somebody else. There's been some names

858
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: out their throne. Um. But again, Luke has the unique

859
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: ability to relate to this generation's kind of player so

860
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: and and Magic is from the old Guards, so he

861
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: probably has this idea of how, you know, things should

862
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: be run as a coach. You know, mag is gonna

863
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: put his hand in the pot. Match is gonna you know,

864
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: throw his two cents in there. And so if there

865
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: is a disconnect there on how things should be run

866
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 1: versus the way Luke's personality is and how he deals

867
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: with guys, then I don't think the relationship is gonna

868
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: last fascinating. I agree with you, Luke, and Luke does

869
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: have a great way, and guys really like him, and

870
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: the guys I know around the league and guys obviously

871
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: on the staff like he's a really good coach. But

872
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't unless your boss is super print to you.

873
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: And then I think the other thing is that, uh,

874
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, remember all these players, the exception of Brandon Ingram,

875
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: were selected by Polinka and Magic, and so you can't

876
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: it's it's hard for Luke to go to Polink. Imagine

877
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: going like, hey, these guys aren't that good. They're like, hey,

878
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: we selected these guys, We want these guys. So I

879
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: think that that part of it is is fast thing.

880
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to a couple of college basketball topics. Um,

881
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: last night we saw our j Barrett, we saw Zion Williamson.

882
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: I thought Kentucky looked awful. Um. I think I talked

883
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier on the pod about that's going

884
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: to be the least discussed part about it was Kentucky's

885
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: point guard play their preparation. Um, they didn't really make adjustments.

886
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: I almost feel like cal Parry at some point goes,

887
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: you know, let them, let's let them get their ass

888
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: kicked and see how it feels and see what kind

889
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: of adjustments we can make in the future. But you

890
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: mentioned our j Barrett being the number one prospect, and

891
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: yet if you watch ESPN and you're watching the shows,

892
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: everybody's only talking about Zion. What what makes our Jay

893
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: Barrett so good? Well, six seven, strong, big body at

894
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: the guard, can handle it. But more importantly, he's he's

895
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: a tough shot maker. He's he's one of these guys

896
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: that when he brings it up the floor, you just

897
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: feel like he's gonna take care of it. He's poised

898
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: with the basketball at that size. Um, I think he's

899
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: he's more Zion design Yon is awesome. Zion. I would

900
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: put my money on R. J. Barrett, just because I

901
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: have concerns about dying being able to keep up this

902
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: type of paint, being two dred and eighty five pounds,

903
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: being this explosive and playing the type of game that

904
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: he played. I just feel like, you know, you know,

905
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: and and I never wish the injurineer on anyone. I've

906
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: been that big and I and I was nothing like Zion,

907
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: but I know how carrying that type of weight takes

908
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: the toll on you. And when you when you first

909
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: got when you first got to U. C. L A.

910
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: And when I played with you, You're amazing. You had

911
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: amazing dexterity considering you're always heavy and high school is

912
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: before you you you trimmed up what was your heaviest

913
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: uh yeah, which is what he is now. But now

914
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: look he's a he's built more a little bit more

915
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: like a like a linebacker. You were big and then

916
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: you end up when when you've got in great shape,

917
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: you were what to thirty two? That's amazing. Yeah. I

918
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: just everybody I talked to, and every everybody I talked

919
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: to in the NBA is like, look, the weight, it's

920
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: always going to be an issue with him. He's not

921
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: one of these guys that can and your name came up.

922
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: He's not Chris Johnson, who can? Who can change his diet?

923
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: Like he's just thick and he's in great shape, but

924
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: he's big. But you know, like you're fighting that when

925
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: you're on the like that. That's a hard one to fight.

926
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: How hard is it to fight once you when you

927
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: when you're playing like, um, you know, in your senior

928
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: year or after college, like to to keep that weight

929
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: in check? What the every day date does? The everyday

930
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: thing got to stay religious with the cardiot if they're

931
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: religious with the diet. Um, you know, every every middle

932
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: is you know, you gotta make the right choice. It's

933
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: it's you know, it just depends on how obsessive that

934
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: an athlete can get. Me personally, I got really obsessive

935
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: at times and other times I got obsessive about Doritos

936
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: and you know, fried chickens. So you know, I hold

937
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: on frio is what the cool ranch? Cool ranch is

938
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: the best. That's always that's the correct answer. The original

939
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: taco flavor ones are good, but cool ranch is the best. Yeah,

940
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: the typo flavors are unbelievable though schools, but I I

941
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: go with cool Ranch more times than not. But as

942
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: far as Zion is concerned, and you know his weight,

943
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's sure he you know what today's training methods,

944
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: today's nutrition is, and all the resources that athletes have

945
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: at their disposal to keep them in shape. I'm sure

946
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: that he it shouldn't be a problem. But just that

947
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: size man, that that I mean in height five probably

948
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: about what ten percent body fat twelve Like, you know,

949
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: he's hut, he's huge, and he's taken off these drop steps.

950
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: Don't these one leg from you know, a step inside

951
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: the foul line, you know, on two people, that stuff

952
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: is gonna take it. I don't care what anyone says.

953
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: And I hate to say this, but I mean, unless

954
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: he probably drink, I think he might need a drop

955
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: about fifteen pounds get down and then I project him

956
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: out on the longer term to be a better player

957
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: in the long term than r J. Barrett. But he's

958
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: got to lose some weight in my opinion. R J. Barrett,

959
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: on the other hand, he's ready made. He has the

960
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: experience internationally as well as you know prep Mount Bertie

961
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: now duke all highest levels. Um, I'm just really impressed

962
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: by him. And his demeanor in his approach to the game.

963
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: U c l A this year kind of interesting. You

964
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: lose Welch, you lose Aaron Holiday, and Aaron Holiday did

965
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: everything for them. But then it feels like they have

966
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: more talent top to bottom on the roster than they

967
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: had since you know, two years ago and when a

968
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: Lonzo saved Alfred's job. Um, what's your perspective on this

969
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: u c l A team? Which does it has a

970
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: lot of freshman and some sophomores that can really play,

971
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: but we we don't know who the alpha is and

972
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: and how they'll actually Are they gonna play fast? Are

973
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: they going to get back to being a motion team

974
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: the way Alfred was you know two years ago when

975
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: they when they played well, is because they you know,

976
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: he took the reins off and they pressed and played fast.

977
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: Give me your sense of u c l A this season.

978
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: I think their best bet, given the current state of

979
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: the roster, is to play the bad of Himsel south

980
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: Um offensively. Now, the big issue with the Bruins over

981
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: during alfred tenure has been defense has been five guys

982
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, playing like a cohesive unit. Help side has

983
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: been deplorable. The way they you know, contest, you know,

984
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: close out. So everything that you can possibly name just

985
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: hasn't been up the park. But I think with this

986
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: year's iterational squad, when you have a Devin two, Moses Brown,

987
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: you have guys like Jalen Hands, David Ingleton who is

988
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: now the backup point guard, along with you know, the

989
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: uber athlete Chris Wilkes. Uh. You know, Alfred and their

990
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: staff has been working their butts off this summer with

991
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: the new focus YEA Alfred U c l A. They

992
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: know that this is a make or break years. They

993
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: know that anything short of the Final four and you know,

994
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: we might be saying goodbye to coach Alfred. So there's

995
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: a final four. I think that's where I'm going with

996
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: think about it, think about I mean, look, I know

997
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: he's under heat, okay, but you can't tell me like

998
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: if they win twenty five games and they get to

999
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: the three six team, they gotta fire him. Yeah, they

1000
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: I think they will. I think that this year, well

1001
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: because look we've been to the Sweet sixt team, We've

1002
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: won twenty five games. I mean, how long what is

1003
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: the standard of use c l A Lab Steve Lab

1004
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: and five Sweet six teams in six years. Then he's

1005
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: fired like a year or two later after the last

1006
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: sweek sixteenth because he had a dismal yere Now look

1007
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: U c l A has had one. Are those dismal

1008
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: years where you know we absolutely stunk it up. Alfred survived.

1009
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: So now this year great recruiting class. Some returners were

1010
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 1: moved past the Jellowballs fiasco and China with Code Riley

1011
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: Jalen Hill. Those guys are back. We have a full

1012
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: squad now. Um. I truly think that from a fan

1013
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: perspective and alumni in a booster perspective, that the ways

1014
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: that they feel is anything short of a Final four. Um,

1015
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: it won't be enough for Alfred to survive. Wow. Um.

1016
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: And for people who who follow you, they know, but

1017
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: people who don't. Your son is on scholarship at Oregon.

1018
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: Oregon is a top ten team. Payton Pitchers I think

1019
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: is gonna have like I don't know if people are

1020
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: some people like fantasy college sports college basketball. Peyton Pitcher

1021
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: is gonna put up numbers. He knows that system. He's

1022
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: a really good shooter, a good score. But there's a

1023
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: fascination with Bull Bull. I saw Bull Boll play in

1024
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: high school before he left to go to Finley. Um

1025
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: with modern day and obviously because of his dad, because

1026
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: of his length, because of his bold basketball, he's fascinating. Um.

1027
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: I didn't think he moved great when I when I've

1028
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: seen him, um, and I thought that outside of catching

1029
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: and shooting threes, he wasn't It wasn't like he was

1030
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: a roll of the rim, throw it up and and

1031
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: dunk on people as so many of these other big

1032
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 1: pogo sticks are. You've got a chance, And of course

1033
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: I know your son works with him every day. What's

1034
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: your sense of how good bull Bull is at this

1035
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: point in time in his development? Well, at this point

1036
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: in time, I mean I think that you know, his

1037
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: potential is unlimited. I think that right now he's you know,

1038
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: arguably top ten big in the country. Look the guys

1039
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: seven two has got a seven seven wingspan. He can

1040
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: shoot it. He moved a lot better now he's there

1041
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: having an understanding, he has an understanding of win to

1042
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: pick and roll. They're throwing it up there to him now,

1043
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: so he's getting some lives, he's getting dunk. I think

1044
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: the biggest thing with Bobo is because of him just

1045
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: making up his mind that he's gonna get five blocks

1046
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: a game. He doesn't play the game like someone that's

1047
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: seven two on the defensive. He plays more like that's weird.

1048
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: Why do you think? Why is that? Well, because of

1049
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: you know, Bobo, the way he was brought up Offensively,

1050
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: He's worked a lot on the perimeter, so I mean,

1051
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, he's very comfortable being behind that line. He

1052
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: likes shooting jumpers. He's like going between his legs and

1053
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: his back, and I just think that that that translates

1054
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: to the defensive end. So he's not like, you know,

1055
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: this anchor in the middle that's used to holding down

1056
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: the paint like the LIONSO Morning or dickim Bay. He's

1057
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: more of this you know, seven to seven foot kind

1058
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: of you know, wing guy. I don't want to say

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Speaker 1: Jonathan bender Um because that's that would be doing Bobo disservice.

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00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just he has the tendencies right now.

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00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: I think that he needs to renew his focus on

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Speaker 1: the defensive end and and actually start to make a

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00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: difference for Oregon because they're gonna need it. Him and

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00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: Kenny Wootton, the forward from Love Kenny pick one of

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00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: the most athletic players in the nation. I mean, that's

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00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: the hell of a front line. I mean, that's something

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00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: to deal with. But bo boll right now early on

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00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: granted exhibition game and one game last night against Portland's state. Um,

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00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: he needs to show, uh, show the country that he can,

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Speaker 1: you know, dominate on the defensive before you know, I

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Speaker 1: just throw him into that. You know. Oh man, he's

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Speaker 1: the next coming uh conversation. All right, I got, I

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Speaker 1: got the last thing I want to ask you because

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Speaker 1: I have a son, h he's also he's left handed,

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Speaker 1: and UM, like your son's journey, I've been able to

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Speaker 1: kind of I've been able to, you know, follow Will

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Speaker 1: through the trials and tribulations and watching him make it

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00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: and look, it's it's completely different than you. You know,

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Speaker 1: you were a star in high school at Crenshaw. You

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Speaker 1: guys won state championships, and of course your dad was

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Speaker 1: a superstar, was an NBA All Star, one of the

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00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: great players in the history of U c l A.

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Speaker 1: What's it like to watch him play, to be to

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00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: sitting there and be kind of so proud and yet

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00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: so powerless to watch him play. I know, the powerless

1086
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: part is what kills you. But again, the pride is

1087
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: what keeps me going. Um, I'm just tremendously happy for

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00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: him because this has been his dreams and you know,

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00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: as a dad, you just want your kids to realize

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00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: their dreams. I never pushed basketball on him. Actually, he

1091
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: was a baseball player going up and we thought that

1092
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: that was the route he was gonna go. Um, he

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00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: decided to pick up basketball, and you know, if it's

1094
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: really really just stuck with it. You know, he was

1095
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: a no star recruit coming out of high school, walked

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00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: on his first year and they gave me some money

1097
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: for a scholarship the second year in Oregon. So actually

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00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: the restaurant freshman and it's still a dream to meet us.

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00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: It's one of the it's the greatest opportunity, um, that

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00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: we could have ever asked for. Coach Altman in that

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00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: staff of Oregon had had. You know, the way that

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Speaker 1: they treated him has been amazing. Coach Man, a former

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00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: Juico walk On, doesn't didn't treat walk On um like

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00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: where you used to walker getting treated, Doug. They get

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00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: treated like you know, scholarship players, So that part of

1106
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: it has been amazing. He's up in Eugene with some

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00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: the top athletes in the world. So his college experience

1108
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: also has been amazing. And then the basketball park. I

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00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: couldn't have asked for anything more. Now, granted, I know

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00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: I loved him to play more, but I love the

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00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: fact that he is a part of a top fifteen

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00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: ranking team in the country and that he is someone

1113
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: that's valued by the coaches for the way he goes

1114
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: about his business and his teammates respecting to love them.

1115
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: And that's all you can ask for, you know, I

1116
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: can't control anything else. I can just ask my son

1117
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: Williams just to do control the things that he can control,

1118
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: and he has and it's putting them in a good

1119
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: position to actually get some plans time this year. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see. All right, well, let's do this again really

1121
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: really soon. Because you're just an unbelievable wealth of knowledge.

1122
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: I totally respect not just your basketball like you, but

1123
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: the people you know, the people you work with and

1124
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: and how you go about your appreciate you joining me

1125
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: on the All Ball podcast and thanks so much of

1126
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: your time. Hey, I appreciate that's Chris Johnson kJ of

1127
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: course is he coaches with the truth. He coaching the

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Speaker 1: j b A and was a great player during his

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Speaker 1: time high school, Crunchhaw High School. UM he and tremained

1130
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: folks on the same high school team, and then and

1131
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: then in college at u C l A and uh

1132
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: I just a part of that national championship team in

1133
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: he was a freshman on that team, and then of

1134
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: course later with Steve laugh and going to the Sweet

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00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: six team. We'll close up all ball with this. It's

1136
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Speaker 1: really early in the basketball season, and I think that

1137
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: sometimes we get caught up in the negativity of the

1138
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: FBI thing, and we get caught up in the negativity

1139
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: of of the a team like the Wizards, who it's

1140
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: just it's mind blowing on how disappointed they are, or

1141
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: even the the Lakers, and and why they haven't achieved

1142
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: to this point. But I think something I thought they

1143
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: would be. I'm a lock playoff team for five maybe

1144
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: at work sixth seed, and they're not playing like it.

1145
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: But but there have been moments and stories that bring

1146
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: us kind of all together and make it interesting. Next week,

1147
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: we'll do a deeper dive into a couple of other

1148
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: college basketball conferences. As I've watched Villanova play, I've watched

1149
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: a couple other Big twelve teams play, some Big East

1150
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: teams in addition to Villanova, I've seen play and I

1151
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: want to peruse around the NBA with some additional guests.

1152
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,200
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1153
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,760
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1154
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1155
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1156
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1157
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,840
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1159
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1160
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