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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot com. Schmelke Figgles in you at

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Speaker 1: two one nine four, five one three. Giants getting ready

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Speaker 1: to take on the Dallas Cowboys. Will preview the game

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Speaker 1: a little bit, folks, But I know, obviously this game

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Speaker 1: doesn't really have a lot of meeting for either team

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Speaker 1: in terms of the standings. The Cowboys are locked into

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Speaker 1: the Ford spot in the playoffs. The Giants obviously have

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Speaker 1: been limited from playoff contention. Trying to finish the season

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Speaker 1: on a high note, we will we will break down

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Speaker 1: the match episode, but anything big picture Giants stuff, even

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Speaker 1: looking ahead to the draft for agency, whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about. It's fair game today at two one

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Speaker 1: nine four or five one three on Big Blue Kickoff Live,

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Speaker 1: Figgles Yes, Giants, sorry, Mr s Merry Christmas, Mary Christmas,

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Speaker 1: good yeah, good stuff. I mean boys were home from

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Speaker 1: it was good. It was a good day, you know.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, I mean this time of the year things

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Speaker 1: get a little bit hectic for everybody, but you get

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Speaker 1: through it. I was more tired after Christmas and Christmas

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Speaker 1: Eve than I was after like two days of work

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Speaker 1: or you have you have a young and that two

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Speaker 1: hour nap from noon to two on Christmas Day pretty quick,

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Speaker 1: didn't It was the best. My wife and I just

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Speaker 1: both laid on the couch and didn't even say a

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Speaker 1: word to each other for two You respect each other's

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Speaker 1: quiet time. Yeah, exactly, precisely, all right, Johanson. Cowboys, um

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Speaker 1: good good rivalry, So thanks Jeff. Jason Garrett has said

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Speaker 1: the guys that are healthy for the Cowboys will play

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Speaker 1: in this game. He didn't say how long, he didn't

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Speaker 1: say what constituted healthy. So I imagine he'll rest a

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Speaker 1: lot of the guys that have been banged up, Like

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Speaker 1: if you saw it's how I look at it. Zach

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Speaker 1: going to force him back in this game. Found that

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Speaker 1: mc l tyrant Smith's been in and out this year

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Speaker 1: with the back in the neck, why would you play

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Speaker 1: him in this game? So if you're gonna rest both

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Speaker 1: those guys, how are you gonna play Dak Prescott a

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Speaker 1: lot and risk your quarterback behind an offensive line? That's

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Speaker 1: already given up fifty two sacks this year. So I

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Speaker 1: would imagine we'll see limited Dak Prescott, limited Ezekie Elliott.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll see a lot of the backups come into

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Speaker 1: the game. So I hope you guys are gonna enjoy

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Speaker 1: Cooper Russian rod Smith, because I think you had a

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Speaker 1: lot of both those guys. And Darius Jackson never heard him,

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Speaker 1: he's a Cowboys starts during running back. Over the course

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Speaker 1: of this game. Uh, Cowboys offense has been this year.

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Speaker 1: Jeff zeg Elliott leads the league in everything, scrimmage yards,

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Speaker 1: rushing yards, you name it, carries, touches, whatever. He's been great.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line has been banged up, Like I mentioned that,

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott has been okay but inconsistent. And you know

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Speaker 1: they're okay on offense, but there's nothing special. Well ever

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Speaker 1: since they got a Mark Cooper, that's when the whole

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Speaker 1: thing has turned and gotten better. For sure. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean throwing the football. But if you have a running game, um,

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Speaker 1: you know some people ask, so how far can the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys go in the playoffs if you have a good defense,

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Speaker 1: which they do, and a good running game and a

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Speaker 1: he has made some mistakes this year, and that's the

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Speaker 1: difference if you get in the playoffs and don't make it.

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Speaker 1: And we had those cut those two other running running

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Speaker 1: he's twenty combined fumbles and interceptions, which is which is

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Speaker 1: that much. But you're right, that's the formula they want

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Speaker 1: to play, frankly, the way the Giants want to play.

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Speaker 1: They want to run the football, pass off of play action,

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Speaker 1: Prescott in a situation where he's gonna trap back forty

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Speaker 1: with his arm. And it's funny watching him, Jeff. He'll

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Speaker 1: and he's still a fairly young quarterback. If you will,

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Speaker 1: that's anticipation. I think he's late on throw sometimes because

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Speaker 1: that just from experience. He'll get that down eventually eventually.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, if you got Ezekiel elt on

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Speaker 1: Cooper has been wonderful. You wonder what the heck was

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Speaker 1: he used that guy because he's a great route runner.

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Speaker 1: He's makes big plays, he makes possession plays, and he's

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Speaker 1: think Prescott's completing like seventy of his passes since Cooper

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Speaker 1: kind of wonder, like, Okay, was was the part of

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Speaker 1: just like it's like, okay, you know, we're married. Somebody

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Speaker 1: is very odd, right. I mean, he's still the same player.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of times when we say that the

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Speaker 1: green the grass is not all we is greener on

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Speaker 1: the other side, sometimes it is. In this case, it is, yeah,

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Speaker 1: young defense to Jeff. I mean, you don't have a

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Speaker 1: I mean you've got two young linebackers and Jalen Smith

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Speaker 1: going into the playoffs, right, I mean they're the fourth seed.

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Speaker 1: How much though, well not, I mean the starters. Okay,

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Speaker 1: next week, so I look, if you're not putting your

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Speaker 1: And I think they've made some transactions throughout the season,

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Speaker 1: lot of people talk to John, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: don't do it a lot, but you do. You hit

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Speaker 1: can kind of comment on how the team rebound and

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Speaker 1: let's get this thing going forward. In two thousand nineteen,

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Speaker 1: the last game of the season had nothing to play for.

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Speaker 1: Nick in Bridgewater, what's up? Nick, Hey, guys, how are

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Speaker 1: which obviously you don't want. He helps you win games.

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Speaker 1: He's an explosive player. Everythingham's gotten more involved, and I'm

428
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Speaker 1: not sure we would have seen this Evan Ingram show

429
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Speaker 1: up the last three or four weeks if Beckham was

430
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Speaker 1: on the field. And I know for a fact because

431
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Speaker 1: Pat Schremers told us to me on the air, hand

432
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,280
Speaker 1: off the air. He thinks this offense is at his

433
00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,200
Speaker 1: best when a not a lot of guys are involved.

434
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Speaker 1: So the trick now next year is when Beckham gets

435
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Speaker 1: back and he's healthy, and you stole Shepherd and you

436
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,320
Speaker 1: stole have Barkley. You gotta make sure that ball gets

437
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Speaker 1: spread around. And I know fans are going to lose

438
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,440
Speaker 1: their minds if that means O'Dell has a few less

439
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 1: targets and catches, So be it. The offense runs better

440
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 1: when you get all these skill position guys involved and real,

441
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,439
Speaker 1: real quick, nigger, will let you get to what you

442
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Speaker 1: had to say. Um, when you look coming into this season,

443
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,680
Speaker 1: this was what everybody was excited about. This was when

444
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Speaker 1: when the when the roster was healthy and Ingram was there,

445
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Speaker 1: and Shepherd and Odell and we talked about si Quan.

446
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,960
Speaker 1: These were all the all the guys. This is what

447
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Speaker 1: this offense was touted to be. And you can't be

448
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 1: can't cover them all, and you can't spread it around.

449
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,880
Speaker 1: When Barkley is gonna catch a hundred balls and Beckham

450
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Speaker 1: if he was on pace to have a hundred and

451
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 1: sixty targets, this shear, they're just on enough passes thrown

452
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Speaker 1: in the game to get everybody involved in that situation.

453
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Speaker 1: And the only way that this will work with all

454
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Speaker 1: of those guys healthy and all of them on the

455
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Speaker 1: offense and getting there is to be not to be

456
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Speaker 1: selfish and say, okay, you know what this is, we're

457
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 1: gonna win. Let's not just creep up in and get

458
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Speaker 1: the ball. This week only got twelve targets. It should

459
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Speaker 1: have got sixteen. Come on, it's okay, It's okay. I

460
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Speaker 1: totally I totally understand your points out. I guess my

461
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Speaker 1: concerns are. My feeling was this way that when Beccan

462
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Speaker 1: goes down, Shepherds are only other true wilde receiver. And

463
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Speaker 1: although I love Shepherd, on any other team, he'd be

464
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Speaker 1: a number three and not number two like I look

465
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Speaker 1: at like the Falcons who have to and Ridley. The

466
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Speaker 1: Falcons have the best. The Falcons have the best wide

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Speaker 1: receiver corp the NFL. I don't think that. I mean,

468
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Speaker 1: we always think he'd be a number three on the Jets. No,

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Speaker 1: I think he'd be number three on let's say the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: He'd be number two on Dallas. Definitely, he'd be number

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Speaker 1: one in Washington. Yeah, I mean the Steelers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean we have Shepherd, who's our other guy. We're

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Speaker 1: trying to find him. Well, evn Ingram's in the game, Nick,

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Speaker 1: It's not like evning him is not playing. If he

475
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Speaker 1: goes out for a pass, it doesn't really matter if

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Speaker 1: it's going out from the X to Y or the

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Speaker 1: Z position, as long as he's down in a past route.

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Speaker 1: And think, if you want to add a receiver in

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Speaker 1: the off season to to be a more liable third guy,

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Speaker 1: if you don't have faith in Cody Laddamer, I'm fine

481
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Speaker 1: with that, but and and and Nick, thanks for the call.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you need to move Ingram to wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. They won't do it. No, and

484
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: they won't and they and they're always trying to upgrade

485
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Speaker 1: every position. And don't be surprised that you know that

486
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Speaker 1: they find another receiver somewhere who knows it put you

487
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Speaker 1: put Ingram on wat He's just a big slow guy

488
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Speaker 1: and evning him is not a big slow guy. But

489
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Speaker 1: compared to you know, Odell Beckham Jr. And you know

490
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Speaker 1: guys that run four threes, he's a big slow guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well I think too that you know the guys that

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Speaker 1: have been behind Shepherd, uh um Sterling Uberd and Beckham, Fowler, Coleman, Lattimer.

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Speaker 1: These guys have all I think have have earned their

494
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Speaker 1: way back onto the team next year because of the

495
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Speaker 1: way they have played this season because of special teams.

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Speaker 1: And no, that doesn't really mean much to you guys,

497
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Speaker 1: but it means a heck of a lot. When you

498
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Speaker 1: got your fourth, your maybe your third, fourth, and fifth

499
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: receiver is a good special teams player. That has to happen.

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Speaker 1: And again, Ingram at tight end going twelve personnel. You

501
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Speaker 1: sell run game with two tight ends on the field,

502
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Speaker 1: and you use them in the past. He fakes blotching

503
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Speaker 1: and play actions exactly. You get him out routes. I mean,

504
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Speaker 1: these are things that as a tight end, and that's

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Speaker 1: why the tight ends such a valuable weapon, and that's

506
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Speaker 1: why it's such a valuable commodity because he presents those

507
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Speaker 1: type of mismatches. You just put him out there as

508
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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Oh that goes away, it's gone, And

509
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Speaker 1: you'd like to have that hybrid, you know. That's what

510
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Speaker 1: those these tight ends are at. They can play, They

511
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Speaker 1: can play with their hand in the dirt, and they

512
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Speaker 1: can play in space and get out there and catch

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Speaker 1: and make plays. Yeah. Look, he has the block better.

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Speaker 1: No one's gonna argue that. But you know, and he's

515
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Speaker 1: and he's never gonna be Red Ellison. He's never gonna

516
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Speaker 1: be Mark Bavarro. He's never gonna be Howard Cross. But

517
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Speaker 1: you don't need him to be. You just need him

518
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Speaker 1: to be able to hold his ground and get in

519
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Speaker 1: the way and stop guys from penetrating. You don't need

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Speaker 1: him to like push guys off the line of scrimmage.

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00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: You just need him to you know, get in the

522
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Speaker 1: way and not let guys beat him. Hold his own.

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Speaker 1: That's all you need from him. And we've seen him

524
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Speaker 1: do that at times this year. Other times he's been inconsistent.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't gotten a job. Then he said that to me,

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Speaker 1: and the interview did with him last week that was

527
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Speaker 1: on F A N and he said, look, guys, I

528
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: gotta get better. But I think I've improved. And I

529
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Speaker 1: think that's he's a lot better now that he was

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Speaker 1: in college. Let me put it that way. I think

531
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Speaker 1: he got a lot better the second half the season.

532
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Speaker 1: He hadn't he hadn't had the drop season. I mean

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Speaker 1: that has improved, whether he's catching balls after practice or

534
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Speaker 1: this and that. And speaking of the tight end position,

535
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Speaker 1: Garrett Dickerson is gonna probably be active this week because

536
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Speaker 1: of this right here. Yeah, be's Ellison with the concussion.

537
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Speaker 1: So I imagine Dickerson, who's really kind of more of

538
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Speaker 1: an h back guy. Um, he's not the biggest dude

539
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Speaker 1: in the world. Um, he's somebody that you know was

540
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: here during the summer in the spring, was kind of

541
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Speaker 1: on and off the roster a little bit. He's out

542
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Speaker 1: of Northwestern. He's six tooty four. He's a good pass catcher.

543
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Speaker 1: He's not a blocker really either, so it'll be interesting

544
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Speaker 1: to see if they try to use him in the

545
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: past game a little bit. It would be interesting because that,

546
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Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, you get Red Elsen

547
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: that goes out of the the lineup and you're like, WHOA.

548
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Speaker 1: Let's stay on the same topic and go to Chris

549
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Speaker 1: and Paramus. You wants to talk about Evan Ingram and

550
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Speaker 1: the wide receiver? Hey, John, Jeff, happy holidays. Good thanks

551
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Speaker 1: for calling. Yeah. No, Um, so, I mean I have

552
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: a couple of points I'd like to make him and

553
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: make it quick. But the first is actually Evan Ingram.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's more between er because he's not

555
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Speaker 1: quite a tight end and not quite a receiver. I

556
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Speaker 1: don't really see the long term commitment to that type

557
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: of receiver slash tight end. Why is that? Um? That

558
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: is pretty much what I mean. Did you like Tony Gonzalez?

559
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Speaker 1: Did you like Jimmy Graham? I mean he's too but yeah,

560
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Speaker 1: that's what than Evan Travis kell S. He's a blocker.

561
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: I I consider him just his build. I don't feel like, look,

562
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Speaker 1: he he wants he wants Travis Kelsey wants no part

563
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: of blocking, none of those none of those hybrid twinters

564
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: do and and and Jimmy Graham hasn't blocked the guy

565
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: in his life, and Tony Gonzalez, and Tony Gonzalez jokes

566
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: on the CBS pregame show that he didn't want to

567
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Speaker 1: block anybody. I mean, those the tight ends, they want

568
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: to be receivers, but they're just big. They're big guys

569
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Speaker 1: and they're not big enough to block. So they want

570
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Speaker 1: to be receivers. That's what they are. And there are

571
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Speaker 1: ways to use those guys that that's not like a

572
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Speaker 1: traditional tight end. That's what the position is becoming now.

573
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Speaker 1: I mean talking about a first round draft pick that

574
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Speaker 1: runs a sub four or five forty and it's a

575
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Speaker 1: tight end position that's you want to keep him around.

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Speaker 1: Ye okay, So you know, I mean, there's just based

577
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Speaker 1: off those two examples, isn't uh And Kelsey's in my opinion,

578
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: I feel that I feel the better blockers than Evan.

579
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Speaker 1: But the second point, I know, an ELI show, but

580
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: you guys didn't want to get into the elies. Go ahead,

581
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: It's fine, go ahead, go ahead, It's fine. I mean,

582
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: what's the possibility that, because everybody on social media is

583
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: always complaining about the three million dollar capit that Eli's

584
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: contract has for nineteen, is there any possibility they give

585
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: him a one year extension for kind of be that

586
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: veteran that Kurt Warner was back in OH three that

587
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: can kind of passed the torch in to a guy

588
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: if they were to draft that. It seems the way

589
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: that it's playing out to be that, you know, maybe

590
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: they don't draft a quarterback this year, they drafted next

591
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: year bigger quarterback pool. Um. And then my last point

592
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: is um season ticket holder has been a Giants fan

593
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: for for all my life. O'Dell, he's more Randy Moss

594
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: than Jerry writes to me. And if you kind of

595
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: get that example, UM, I don't see him as a leader.

596
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: Case in point being taking a full month off the

597
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Speaker 1: quads of Chris Okay, I appreciate, I appreciate the call Chris.

598
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Speaker 1: He and this has been out there too on social media.

599
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: What at Beckham Jr? Is hurt? This idea that he's

600
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: just shut it down and isn't playing because the team's

601
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: out of its hi, it's nonsense and hogwash to quot

602
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: Dave gentleman, it's crap. I mean, he's hurt, he got

603
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: kicked in the quad, he had a thigh bruise. He

604
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: really and what people keep forgetting is that he re

605
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: injured it in practice the following week. A quad pole

606
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: or a quad injury is no different than a hamstring injury.

607
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: It takes the time, it takes a month, that's the

608
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: way it goes. I know people like call it's just

609
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: a bruise. It's not as simple as a black and blue, folks,

610
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 1: that's not what this is. If if you've ever had

611
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: a deep thigh bruise before, it takes weeks to get

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00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: back from that. I mean there and and I don't

613
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean it's the quad, but obviously the

614
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: severity of it is there. I mean, you've got you've

615
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: got people that pull their hamstrings and tear their hamstrings.

616
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: You've got people that pull their quads and tear their quads.

617
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: You've got people that there's different severities of injuries than

618
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: some people recover quicker. But when you're a runner and

619
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: you don't have a hamstring or a quad, that's hard.

620
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 1: That's hard to play. And so I don't want to

621
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Speaker 1: O'Dell Beckham. He's gonna be to play and right now

622
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: he doesn't remember nothing to play for. He played through

623
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: the injury for a week one week and it got worse. Yeah,

624
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, listen that you can there's there's so many

625
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: ways that people could go here, but until you're in

626
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: the building. And John and I are in the building,

627
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: but we're not in the training room. We don't know

628
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: what goes on it's there. But I know that I

629
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: know I've been around football all my life and been

630
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: in training room that if if you're healthy, you'll play, period.

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Speaker 1: And he loves to play exactly want look that, guys,

632
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: say what you want about all Beckham Jr. And he's

633
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: not perfect. Dude wants to play football. He loves to

634
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: play football. Now, if you want to make the point

635
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: that the disconcerned that he's missed a significant number of

636
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: games and three of his seasons with injuries, sure, fair game.

637
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Speaker 1: But they're legit injuries. Yeah, yeah they are. And I

638
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: think that you know, you can say whatever you want

639
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Speaker 1: to say about any of the players, Um, he's not

640
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: one of them. In my mind, that's gonna just take

641
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: it off. He wants to play. He's already got he's

642
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: already got his money, you know, so, I mean he

643
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: wants to go out there and earn it and play.

644
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's just the way he is. And listen,

645
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: John's around him a lot more than I am. But

646
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: I from just what I've seen and talk to people,

647
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: the guy loves to practice. He loves as far as

648
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: being a leader and and kind of you know. Back

649
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: with let's go back on the first question you had, Nick.

650
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: One of them was about the salary cap and adding

651
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: another year. If the Giants feel that they can get

652
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: some relief by giving him another second year, they will,

653
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: They'll do it. They'll they'll tear it up and give

654
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: him an extension. And you know how they worked the

655
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: signing bonus. And that was a very astute point by Chris,

656
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: because a lot of team teams fans rather have just

657
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: been like, you need to get his captain number. God,

658
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: you have to renegotiate the contract, guys. I'm gonna be

659
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: very clear about this, Listen. I have to say it

660
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: a million times more. When you have one year left

661
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: on your contract, there is no such thing as renegotiating

662
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: your contract. If you're taking money away, it's a pay cut.

663
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: You can't renegotiate a one year contract. Doesn't work that way.

664
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: The money's either going to him or it's not. So

665
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: the only way you can do it, and this is

666
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: why Chris made such a good point, is if you

667
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: give him an extension and then you can spread the

668
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: money out and lessen a cap it if you want.

669
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Speaker 1: Could that possibly be on the table depending on what

670
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Speaker 1: they do with the quarterback position? Sure? Maybe I don't

671
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: know what Dave Gentleman and Eli Manning are thinking in

672
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Speaker 1: that regard, but I don't think it's impossible. But if

673
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Speaker 1: you are going to try to reduce the cap it

674
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Speaker 1: aside from just letting him go and and eating the

675
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: dead money and getting your cap savings, that's how you

676
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: would have to do it is by giving him that

677
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: that extension. You actually could you guys, you could give

678
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Speaker 1: him a two year extension and people would go through

679
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: the roof like, how are you extending him two more years? Oh?

680
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: My good? Can imagine the phone call doesn't matter. As

681
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: long as you can as long as the current year

682
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: you're trying to improve in that area, it's okay, especially

683
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Speaker 1: if the last year is not guaranteed exactly. There you

684
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Speaker 1: go and any way, and then he probably would say, yeah,

685
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: that's fine, I don't care. I'm probably not going to

686
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: be here for three three more years anyway, so don't

687
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: guarantee my last year and we'll just kind of spread.

688
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna give me a bunch of money up front,

689
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: which you're gonna give me twenty three next year anyways.

690
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: But to help you, I'll do this. It happens all

691
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, Tom Brady did it all the time.

692
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: I did it a couple of times when I was playing.

693
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: Not that I'm making million dollars, but I mean she's

694
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Speaker 1: but I mean it's like, okay, let's just do it.

695
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: It's fine. And you see this happen all the time.

696
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys in the middle of the season

697
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: get contract extensions. Well that's because they're looking forward to

698
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: next year and they want to start to work on

699
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: the cap currently. All right, let's go to Joe in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: He wants to Joe. What's up a happy New York guys. Yeah, first,

701
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Speaker 1: she's we're talking about ingram are are tight end? I

702
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: just say I'd like him, like Jeff says, to be

703
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Speaker 1: available in the big games when we need on these

704
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: scenes he's not there. He's hurt too. And when he's

705
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: in there to make the the catches, that's that's all

706
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: you with him? What do you like? But on this game,

707
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: I know what he's gonna do, and he's going to

708
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Speaker 1: be our starting quarterback. And let's they signed some veteran

709
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: and bring him in, uh for next year? So I

710
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: would I think i'd only play him a quarter and

711
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: bring in our backup quarterback? What's his name? Give him

712
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: a look? See it's not gonna happen, Well, I would,

713
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: it's to me, it's ill relevant. That's fine. I'm just

714
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: telling you it's not gonna happen. Well, it's to me,

715
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: it's ill relevant. When we're going to get a chance

716
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: to look at him, you know in game? Actually want

717
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: to see lotta Joe? Which one not? Well, where have

718
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: we seen him? He's you know, he needs time, alright,

719
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: So you've given up after one quarter? You know what

720
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm just saying the other guy didn't even

721
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: get a look. See, yeah, that's the way he's No,

722
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: that's the way he's played. That's his role the whole,

723
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: his whole career. And Joe, depending what the score is,

724
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: if it's a if it's a situation where the games

725
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: out of reach either way, I think you might see

726
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: Alex Handy for a few snaps. That's possible. But if right,

727
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: I just I think he should get a look see

728
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Speaker 1: because if Eli does get hurt or something like that

729
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: next year, and then for in the same position, you know,

730
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: at least he had a little time there, so you know,

731
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: so but uh, and then as far as the draft goes,

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00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, this year, it seems like

733
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: we can get some pass rushers in offensive lineman and

734
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: that's what we need. And I hope they signed Brown.

735
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: They don't mess around with him and signed him, you know, right,

736
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Speaker 1: And uh, I guess Pulleys has to be signed tool

737
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: if they won him or uh. There, but I heard

738
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: the other center they have more eyes on, you know,

739
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: the one that got hurt. So I think I think,

740
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'd get a look see

741
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Speaker 1: on anybody. You know, I want to win the game,

742
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: so you you play it hard. But you know Dallas

743
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: is gonna but they ain't gonna get no fistfight in

744
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: the end to the end with us, you know what

745
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean. They're they're looking at the next game, which

746
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: is there and that right and that right. So uh,

747
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, anybody I want to get a look see that,

748
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: I'd get him in there. So thanks for taking my call.

749
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: Thank you, Joe. I always appreciate a good deal from you.

750
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I look back at the Alex Tanney thing,

751
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: and you're sitting here three months from now, going, man,

752
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: good thing that Alex Hanny got in for those two series.

753
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: I'm really thinking about that. Well he wanted to play

754
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: for three quarters. Well that's even still. Wow, I'm glad

755
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: he played for those three quarters. What'd that give mean?

756
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: He's not even on the team anymore. Um, No, you're

757
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: Eli is going to play the whole game unless it's

758
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: forty nothing like, you know, the one time that that

759
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: or God for good, somebody gets hurt or something. You know.

760
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: But the fact is, I think this is an interesting

761
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: game to me because I look at both these teams

762
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: they have the Cowboys are going to the playoffs, and

763
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, but I just for some reason the Cowboys

764
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: are They're there. It's a tough coaching decision in my mind,

765
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: like what do you do? You know, what do you do?

766
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: You look at the dose seven season when we were

767
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: in the playoff no matter what kind of similar to

768
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: these guys, and we went and played everybody against the

769
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: Patriots that year. Remember something happened there. I mean not

770
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: saying that we want the Cowboys to go win the

771
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: super Bowl, but if they did it, bead and pretty

772
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: cool it. They'd be two super Bowl teams in the

773
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: last two years out of the NFC East. All right,

774
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: so we can put them on paper. Jeff rooting for Dallas.

775
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: I did not say that. I did not say that. Yeah,

776
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: you know what that you know what there is there

777
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: is an argument to that, and and I see where

778
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: you're coming from. But does Zekilelli need more touches? He

779
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: already's got almost four? I agree, I agree. You know what?

780
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: You know it would be funny is if you had

781
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: a show on Friday, let's call it Friday, and you

782
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: had all twenty two starters and and they were they

783
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: had to come on and they had to be truthful.

784
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Do you want to play this week? I'll be that

785
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: would be fun in week seventeen? What you can almost

786
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: give him the truth? Sirum you have to tell me

787
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: the truth. And what do you think the percentage of

788
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: the guys would say yes or no? You could do

789
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: like an unsolved mysteries, or they put like the guy

790
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: behind the black screen and they affect the voice. You

791
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: can't tell who's answering the question and do it that way,

792
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: or like you're in a confessional if you're Catholic and

793
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: going to priests behind there, you don't you know, you

794
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: know he's there, but you can't see him. Two O

795
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Speaker 1: he'll join us next. What's up? Mike, Hi, Mike, John, Jeff?

799
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Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Um So, I want to highlight one player

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00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: for you, Joan and Jeff. I want to get your

801
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: opinion on another player real quick. Okay, uh now, let

802
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: me prep for the first part by saying I still

803
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: believe An Eli and I hope that we can win

804
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: with him for another two years, Okay, at least one.

805
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: All right, But John, I want you to just check

806
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: out Trace mcsorley's tape when you get a chance, and

807
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: tell me he's not a Pat Shermer caliber quarterback. You

808
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: must be from Penn State Mike. Oh, well, yeah, it's

809
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania. I look, I actually watched Pistol a lot

810
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: last year when I was watching tape. To be quite

811
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: honest with you, so I think I have a pretty

812
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: decent feel for him. I think he can be a

813
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: backup in the league. I don't think he's any much

814
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: more than that, Mike. To be honest with you, Oh,

815
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean everyone thought Baker would be a backup last year?

816
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: Who whoa what? He was the first over a pick

817
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: of the draft time at this time last year. Not me.

818
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: M okay, anyway, what's your next point? All right, Jeff,

819
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 1: I really value your opinion because I think you're more

820
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: honest than the average person because you've been in a

821
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: locker room and you uh. With that said, do you

822
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: think Odell Beckham has the heart that he should being

823
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: the highest paid wide receiver in NFL history? What the

824
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: heart meaning? Where? What kind of heart like? On in?

825
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean plain heart like wants to play? Are you

826
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: getting but well, I mean I guess it's just what

827
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: I looked I looked at, I don't know, at twelve

828
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: games when we needed the most, he's out and I

829
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: mean he's hurt. Okay, I don't. I don't know what's

830
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes, but it just feels like

831
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: there's so much left on the table. Seventy seven receptions

832
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: on targets. Do you think he's happy with that? No?

833
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't. But there you go. They answered your own question.

834
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: He would be out there trying to get a hundred

835
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: receptions if you could. I mean, he's getting fifteen sixteen

836
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: targets a game. He would be out there. His heart

837
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: is in it. It is. I'm going to add something

838
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: a little to hear, real real, real quick, Mike. I'm

839
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: in the locker room after every game, okay, and I'll

840
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: be being complain Look, I've been critical of O'Dell when

841
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: he deserves to be criticized, and but after games and

842
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: he has a big game where he catches eight balls

843
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: for a hundred and thirty yards and the team loses,

844
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: he's devastated. He's not happy joking around. He's mad because

845
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: he wants to win. He cares. You can say a

846
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: lot of things about him, immature, you know, Nils off

847
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: too much into the media. It says stupid things. That's fine, okay, great.

848
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: The guy cares about football. He cares about his teammates,

849
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: and he cares about winning. He does care about those

850
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: things immensely, and he works his rear end off. He

851
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: tries really really hard. Can I tell you one quickly,

852
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: just real quick right on that. But here's the other

853
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: thing too. You want to I want you to understand this.

854
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: You know who O'Dell is and the way he talks

855
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: to the media and that something he voices his opinions

856
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: on his success. Right, I want to be great? Now?

857
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: Can you be all of that without every winning? You

858
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: can't be that type of player without winning. So it

859
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: has to come. So if you're gonna if you're gonna

860
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: be want to be one of the greatest ones with

861
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: all the stats and all this stuff, But you never

862
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: make it and win a super Bowl or never be

863
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: a perennial Pro Bowler and and by the way, playoff guy,

864
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: none of those things are gonna happen if you don't

865
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: have the heart to win. He's got it. And look,

866
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: and he's not pulling Randy Mosses where he's giving up

867
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: on plays and he's not blocking guys. You see him

868
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: blocking down the field for sakewon Barkley. If he didn't

869
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: care about winning, why is he blocking people down the

870
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: field on runs. He does some stupid stuff, trust me,

871
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: he does. But I'll tell you what the guy, the

872
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: guy plays football when he's on the field. He really does.

873
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: All right, So what else you got, Mike? Sorry? All right,

874
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: thank you appreciate it. I appreciate the call. I'm glad

875
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: we said. That makes you feel better because I mean,

876
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: and the other thing that he said, I'm not in

877
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: the locker room. Yeah, you're not in the locker room.

878
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: And a lot of people aren't in the locker room.

879
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: But the guys that are in the locker room, the

880
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: fifty two other guys you not. Maybe not all of

881
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: them might like O'Dell, but most of them do, is

882
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: what I mean by they don't like him, like maybe

883
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: just don't like some of the things as he does,

884
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: but everybody likes the way he plays. I can tell

885
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: you that when you're in the locker room, fifty two

886
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: guys are never all going to like the same That's

887
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's not but a fund some people

888
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: that didn't like Jeff Fields back in the day, but

889
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: they liked the way I played absolutely, And by the way,

890
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: I was one of those true storm guys in that

891
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: week seventeen when it didn't matter. I'm saying, I'm I

892
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: want to play. I would want to play absolutely well,

893
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: you don't want your consecutive game strip to before that

894
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: would be to just play me one game, just pay

895
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: me one play. That's go to your port. Is this

896
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: Jared and Vermouth Vermont Dave Dominic gets Vermont Ims. Hello Jared,

897
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: Hey guys, first time caller and listen to you guys.

898
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: Welcome few seasons that leads for in diligently than you.

899
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: Appreciate the job you guys, Thank you. Blee Blue over here,

900
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Um. The first point I wanted to make

901
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 1: UM putting back on UM Sterring guys are talking about Sterling, Shepard. UM.

902
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: One point I want to make is that know, our

903
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: guys haven't really played with a good old one since

904
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: they've gotten here, and we will talk about um Ingram

905
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: and Shepherd and even even Odell you know he's got

906
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: time has been and it's like, yeah, they know what

907
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna do and know that's that we're trying to

908
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: FoST lance. You know, well, I don't think that was

909
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: the case last week though, Jared was it. I'm sorry,

910
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't think that was the case last week. The

911
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: passing game world really well last week with that oldell. No, right, right, No,

912
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. That's what I'm saying. I'm I'm

913
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying that Shepherd is a good receiver. You know

914
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm on this side. Um, sorry, so I'm just trying

915
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: to call me in. No. You know, what happens is

916
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: that these guys when O'Dell goes out of the game,

917
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: they understand that they're gonna get targeted a little bit more.

918
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: And also you had more attention from the defense and exactly,

919
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: and so you know, do you look at Sterling Shepherd's

920
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: career here, He's been a pretty good player. Yeah, he

921
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: had a little bit of a downfall a little bit

922
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: during the season, like bang up last year two at

923
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: that ankle that kept coming up. Tough guy and he's

924
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think that he's he'll make some plays.

925
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: I he'll make more plays than he does not make plays.

926
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: And he's a tough dude. I think he's he goes

927
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: out there so he you know, I think he is

928
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: a god. There's Mr Dalton. I think that when you

929
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: talk about Sterling Shepherd, he is a solid number two receiver.

930
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: He really is. And he's not a one. That's fine,

931
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: He's not a three, No, he's a he's Is he

932
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: a three on the Falcons? Yeah? Yeah, well yeah, I

933
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: mean they have Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley, the twos

934
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: in this league. Would be a three on the Falconry.

935
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and go through

936
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: all the teams, but trust me, he'd be the second

937
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: best wide receiver on two thirds of the teams. Maybe

938
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: what about the Saints, Yeah, I'm take gin guess. Yeah,

939
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't get you excited. The Panthers, I

940
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: mean what about the Patriots? Would have to Shawan Jackson,

941
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: a Shepherd Patriots? Good point. Who's the second one receiver

942
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: on the Dolphins, could be the number one receiver on

943
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: the Bills, could be numb one receiver on the Ravens.

944
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: I think there's any big drop off between two and three?

945
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: Research Yeah, I mean the call before mentioned the Steelers,

946
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: who have maybe the best pair of wide receivers in

947
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: the league, and Antonio Brown and Juju Smith Shi the

948
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: Washington kid that's the rookie this year is gonna be

949
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: pretty good and he and he actually mentioned the Chargers.

950
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean what okay, Tyroll Williams. I mean, he's good

951
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: to be excited, Mike. Mike Williams has been very on

952
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: and off of his second year. How do you like

953
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers this year? I was disappointed with how they

954
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: played against them? They do that though they played some

955
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: of those games. What the Steelers they lost to? Right,

956
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: they beat but they beat the Chiefs the week before.

957
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be good. Yeah, I think

958
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: they're very dangerous. I think the a f C. I

959
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: don't buy the Ravens still, and I know I'll probably

960
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: say that as they win the a FC championship. I

961
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: just don't, you know, the whole running quarterback thing, it

962
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: doesn't do it for me. Um, I don't think it's

963
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: a sustainable deal. I think eventually you're gonna have to

964
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: throw it. Their defense is legit, though, their defense is

965
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: really it's not the problem. That's the team. That's that's

966
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 1: where they're at. And you know, I don't think that, Um,

967
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: that they can go with that whole running quarterback thing

968
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: for you for the years to come. I think right

969
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: now it's so new, it's like r G three's work

970
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, there you go, yeah, good points. And

971
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: then what happened r G three and year number two

972
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: or the end of it was the end of year

973
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: one right when he when he popped his knee. If

974
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I didn't even make it his first

975
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: three though. Um, I think they're pretty close. I mean

976
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: r G three was really good that rookie here. But

977
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Lamar Jackson is he's a very talented player.

978
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: No one knows will take that away from him. A

979
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: let's go to Scott New Mexico Online too, He's up next, Scotty.

980
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, guys again, Happy New Year, you do. Uh.

981
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: My question is about Dave Gentleman. He's gonna have to

982
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: make a number of decisions coming up for the following year.

983
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 1: In his tenure in Carolina, he produced three playoffs teams

984
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: in the first three years, and recognizing the teams are different,

985
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: this team has made I think, pretty good strides this

986
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: year so far. But do you think, without speaking for him, uh,

987
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: that he has a timetable in his head in regards

988
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: to where he expects the Giants to be, saying next

989
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: year and then the year after that, or does he

990
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: expect to produce a winner because he did that in Carolina,

991
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: and albeit they were different, they are different teams and

992
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: different players. But I was wondering if there's a sort

993
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: of a clock in his head that says, I want

994
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: to produce a competitive team, say in the next two years,

995
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: longer than that. Scott, knowing Dave Gentleman, he'll never say

996
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: to himself consciously, I don't expect the team I put

997
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: out on the field to win. He's just not going

998
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: to see that. Now. Again, if you take them to

999
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: Jeff Eagles, trust the truths here him and you stick

1000
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: it into his neck, you know, maybe maybe maybe he

1001
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: gives a different answer. Um. Look, they went from three

1002
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: wins to either five or maybe six is the year

1003
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: depending if the Giants, you know, beat Dallas on Sunday

1004
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: the roster turned over. Is it a reasonable to think

1005
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: that they could get to to nine next year and

1006
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: challenge for a wild quarter division. I don't think it's

1007
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: out landish. Is it more than likely? You know? Maybe not,

1008
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: but that doesn't look football. Weird things happen, Okay, teams

1009
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: come out of nowhere. So I think Scott Dave get

1010
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: Himan is every every intention of putting a team that

1011
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: he believes can make a playoff run on the field

1012
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: next year. I also believe that Dave Gentleman has now

1013
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: got an idea that when he showed up here, what

1014
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: did he say, we got to run the football? Well,

1015
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: they didn't run the football very well the first half

1016
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: of the season. In fact, Jeff, they really only have

1017
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: like a four or five game stretch where they've done it.

1018
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: And in the last two games they ever wanted either,

1019
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: but they have. They have seen the improvement out of

1020
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: the offensive line. That's what he wanted to see early on,

1021
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: but he didn't. So I think he's got a little

1022
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: bit of a good taste in his mouth going forward

1023
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: there knowing that you can still improve there. Yeah, you

1024
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: got you gotta talk about right tackle. Okay, you gotta

1025
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: talk about center. I think you found your right guard.

1026
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: I think you did if you can sign him. Um.

1027
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: And then defensively, you know, I think he had a

1028
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: lot of a lot. I think that this defense was

1029
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: a little bit, in my opinion, did a little bit

1030
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: less than I thought they would. I thought they would

1031
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: do a little bit more. However, I still think that

1032
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: the draft coming up is can you would use some

1033
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: really good players going forward in this defense? I really

1034
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: do okay. Uh, this is more a question for you, Jeff.

1035
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: Are there telltale signs when you know you have a

1036
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: sort of a playoff team that's not revealed necessarily in

1037
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: the play In other words, uh, not only the locker room,

1038
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: but uh, like the defense is making stands on fourth

1039
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: and one and so forth and so on. Do you know,

1040
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: do you do play is recognized that they have uh

1041
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: something there at that point or what are there signs

1042
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: beyond just the obvious that says, yes, we have a

1043
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: competitive team. I'm just curious from a player's perspective question,

1044
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: there are They're definitely signed and you know what they

1045
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: are when you start winning close games and you start

1046
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: to stack them. You know, you have one win, two wins,

1047
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: three wins, four in a row. You lose one, but

1048
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: you come back, and I think that showing the confidence

1049
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: you have, the confidence on the team, and all of

1050
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, that confidence is carrying over to practices. Your

1051
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: practices are really good, and that's kind of when it

1052
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: all starts to mold through and when you when you're

1053
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: a team like the Giants who who have have lost

1054
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: a lot of games in the fourth quarter. This is

1055
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: about the matturation process. When you start to win those games,

1056
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: that's when the team starts to believe in themselves and

1057
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: each other, and the team starts to cohesively get better

1058
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: and better, and that's when you can That's probably a

1059
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: little bit of the momentum I was trying to carry

1060
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: forward to the next season was to look back on

1061
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: it on all the games we should have won in

1062
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Guys, let's let's correct that, and if

1063
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: we can win those, we can get to the nine games.

1064
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't see there's any problems that the Giants can

1065
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: get to nine wins next season. Yes, thank you, Scott.

1066
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: Let let's go into Mike in Virginia. I'll make sure

1067
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: we get our three final coals in before we get

1068
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: to one thirty. Mike, what's up, hey, aw y'all doing

1069
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: to this man? Um? I just really wanted to talk

1070
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: a little bit about them with the quarterback situation I

1071
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 1: listened all the time called the probably handful um and

1072
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: it's something that it always seems like everybody wants to

1073
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: They want to go at Eli so much, not give

1074
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: this man it's credit. And it's to the point where

1075
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of just disgusting, man, because they It's like

1076
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 1: they don't remember the years of Eli just back there

1077
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: getting sandwiched in fact by who did uh Gared Allen

1078
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: push will Beattie back into Eli and sandwiched them in back.

1079
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: He actually actually reached around. Yeah, and and Charlie that

1080
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: that's Charlie's man. That's Charlie's man. Keep bring back will Be.

1081
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: And it's like you don't remember this stuff. But this

1082
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 1: man comes to work every day, doesn't throw anybody under

1083
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: the bus and gives it all. And look what happens

1084
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: when they find get some sort of line working. Give

1085
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: him a good run game. He could put up numbers. Yes,

1086
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: he's getting older, and you know you can't beat Father time.

1087
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: I get that, but give the man a chance with

1088
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: a good line. That's all. Now. If we get a

1089
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: good line, solid line, and he's making you know, the

1090
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: eron throws the inaccuracies, then you know what you can

1091
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: You can say what you want, but without that, no

1092
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: quarterback would be successful. Everybody's a you know what, we

1093
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: need a mobile quarterback, somebody like Aaron Rodgers. Hey man,

1094
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: I got news for you. Everybody wants Aaron Rodgers. So

1095
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: let's be real about it. If you want to be

1096
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: real about it if you want to. If you want

1097
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: to be real about it, good stuff, good, the real

1098
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: thing about this. Find someone better, Yeah, then you go

1099
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: for it. Or you find someone young that you think

1100
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: is your future. There you go. And if if you

1101
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: can't do those two things, don't make a change for

1102
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: the sake of making a change. Now, I'll thought of

1103
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: real quick, you know, Gary Meyers, And don't want to

1104
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: get your take on this, but I know where I stand.

1105
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: Gary Meyers wrote his article for the I think it

1106
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: was The Athletic the other day. Pivoting to Nick Foles

1107
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: would be a good idea, kind of get your thoughts

1108
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: on that. And Nick Foles, by the way, has like

1109
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: a twenty million dollar option that I don't believe the

1110
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: Eagles will pick up. He's certainly younger. Yeah, he's um

1111
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: super Bowl and VP. He's proved in the last year

1112
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: and a half, maybe almost two years that he can

1113
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: play and win some games. But also how good of

1114
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: a quarterback was Nick folded before last year? And can

1115
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: you bring Lane Johnson and Jason Peters and and and

1116
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: Kelsey with him? I mean, the guy can play football,

1117
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: but is he gonna be I mean, I mean did

1118
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: you see him play the first couple of games this

1119
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: year before Carson Wentz came back? Is he a morbile quarterback?

1120
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: Did you see him play the last few regular season

1121
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: games last year before he went on his playoff run?

1122
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,479
Speaker 1: What does everybody want? They want the morbile quarterback? John

1123
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: remember and that that that ain't Nick Foles. No, I mean,

1124
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: if he's athletic, all quarterbacks are athletic. Heales athletic. Listen,

1125
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: You're not playing in the National Football League at the

1126
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: quarterback position if you're not athletic. I'm telling you right now,

1127
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: even a thirty seven years old and these guys are

1128
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: coming at you, you still got a little athleticism in here,

1129
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: my friend. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm a big fan

1130
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: of that. To me, the veteran market's very thin. I

1131
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: think I've mentioned before who The only guy I would

1132
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: have any interest in as depending free agent is Teddy Bridgewater.

1133
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think the Saints are gonna want to

1134
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: let him go. Okay, So let's just like to Nick

1135
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: Foles for a second. So if you're gonna if this

1136
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: go on, that thing, so the Nick Foles, So, what's

1137
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: that going to be? Three years down in the road,

1138
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna start doing this again? I mean, and when

1139
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: by the time six right, I gotta believe he was

1140
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: this guy. I also thought about retiring two years ago,

1141
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: no question. And that's why I saying I gotta believe

1142
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: that does that does he wanted? I don't know how

1143
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: long he wants to play football. I mean, he's getting

1144
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna. I don't know if somebody gonna give him

1145
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: a five year contract next year. I don't think so.

1146
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: I really don't. Let's go to Gavin in South Florida.

1147
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: He's the next Gavin. What's going on? What's up? Guys?

1148
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: What's up? What's going on? How's every been doing up there?

1149
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: Rainy today? Actually it's not too cold. It's just rainy.

1150
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: Jeff knows. Its beautiful outside here in sunny South Florida. Yeah,

1151
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: it always is. The hell with you, Gavin? How about that?

1152
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: Any well? So I was calling, Uh, I'm just to

1153
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: addressed with the last college that. Just just to be clear,

1154
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: Nick Holt has who in front of him, That's what

1155
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: we're saying. That's what john was. You got Yeah, Lane Johnson?

1156
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: Who else? Jason Peters, Peter, Jason Kelsey, Ye three actually three,

1157
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: here's three Pro bowlers. Okay, yeah, okay, all right. I mean, look,

1158
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: Nick Moles is whatever he is, but he's not, you know,

1159
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: he's not like you know, Joe Montana back there. He's yeah,

1160
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: just another guy. Look, I think he's good. I think

1161
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: he's as good as Eli is today, and Eli is

1162
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: nine years older. Yeah, I would say they're generally in

1163
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: this same tier. Um, But if honestly gun to my head,

1164
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: like if you're telling me I need to win a

1165
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: big game, which one of those you guys want on

1166
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: the field from Eve had a good line, I'm picking

1167
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: the line and I'm not hesitating about it either. Behind

1168
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: a good line that's a caveat. You gotta have a

1169
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: good line exactly, And how long does that take to build?

1170
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: Jeff Wood could speak to that a little bit better.

1171
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna take a couple of years to build

1172
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: a good line with me. Yeah, I mean absolutely. Yeah.

1173
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: So we have a thirty eight will soon to be

1174
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: thirty eight year old quarterback who's gonna be on his

1175
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: last year of his contract this coming year. You have

1176
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: a draft class the quarterback that's so so or you know,

1177
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm not listening. I'm no draft expert, I mean, or

1178
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: quarterback expert for for that matter. They could be good,

1179
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: they could be bad. Whatever. There's not a good this year.

1180
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: Not there's not enough to be you're excited about anything.

1181
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: It's a weak class, right, it's a weak, weaker class. Fine, Okay,

1182
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: that being said, I mean we have to come up

1183
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: with a plan. We do not have a plan in

1184
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: place currently. We just have a thirty eight year old

1185
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: aging quarterback, a third or fourth out pick as our

1186
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: as our second backup, not even our backup Alex Tanney,

1187
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: who's you know, it doesn't get me playing time. So

1188
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: we need to come up with a cohesive response to

1189
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, going forward at the moment, absolutely half one,

1190
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: so I believe, and in my opinion, and I was

1191
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: not somebody who wanted to bring Eli back this year

1192
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: at all, but you gotta bring it back again, I

1193
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: think for nineteen and draft somebody period. And I mean,

1194
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a top ten pick, so we gotta

1195
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: make a play on somebody, either Haskins or you gotta

1196
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: make a play on the other kid out of West Virginia. Well,

1197
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: I would say this, I don't want to draft somebody

1198
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,959
Speaker 1: for the sake of drafting them, and I don't. Again,

1199
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: I even watched Haskins yet, so I don't have an

1200
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: opinion on them. And I know for a fact that

1201
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: a lot of the decision makers here haven't done, you know,

1202
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: a ton of work on Haskins yet either. He hasn't

1203
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: even declared yet. Um so once they determine if they

1204
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: like him or not, they'll make that decision. I will

1205
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: not advocate drafting a quarterback unless you believe in him.

1206
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,240
Speaker 1: If they think Haskins can be the guy, by all means,

1207
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: do what it takes to get him, I'm all for that.

1208
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: But if they don't, next year's class is gonna have to.

1209
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna have Herbert, who I think a lot of

1210
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: people like around the league and in the NFL. And

1211
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 1: you can even have the from kid out of Georgia.

1212
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: So next year's class is gonna even better. So I

1213
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't though. I mean, I get Haskins is probably the best,

1214
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: but Will Greer and I'm not a big fan of his.

1215
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I watched him play in Florida a little

1216
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: bit and then I haven't really caught up with him

1217
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: in West Virginia. All I know is I read one

1218
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: stat and this one stat speaks loud is everything. Two touchdowns,

1219
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: zero pick pressure. That that about the guy. That that

1220
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: is a That is a good number. I know a

1221
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: lot of people I know like Drew lock better than him.

1222
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: They think he has better physical tools. Again, I have

1223
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: not watched these guys, so I can't give an opinion

1224
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: on him, But those to me are early second round players.

1225
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: And I've talked about the jet before. Guys that you're

1226
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: picked in the second, third, and fourth rounds, the percentages

1227
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: just aren't with you. I mean we we we went

1228
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: through it on last Friday show. Of the thirty two

1229
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: NFL teams, quarterback picked in the first round about twenty

1230
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: in the top ten. So that's where you generally find

1231
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: your quarterback, and you might be able to find that

1232
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: next year or not. I would say, I would say

1233
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: one other thing, we're gonna have an early second round pick.

1234
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: What's how hard is it to trade back into the

1235
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: first you know, trading up with a team like Kansas

1236
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: City to England whatever, They're gonna be there at the end.

1237
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: The problem like a Lamar Jackson move. Yeah, you know,

1238
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: you come in and you pick them up. And to

1239
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I think these guys are better

1240
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: than what Lamar Jackson is as a thrower today. Maybe

1241
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: you could be right. The only problem is that you

1242
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: don't have a third round pick this year either because

1243
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: you use that in the field. Uh, in the in

1244
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: the draft, the only one. Only one now they have.

1245
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: They have a bunch of extra Day three picks in

1246
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh round, so they could

1247
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: try to package those, but you know, generally those picks

1248
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: don't have a ton of value. I appreciate the call.

1249
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: Man good stuff, Gavin excellent, good stuff, good information, a

1250
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: good call, and you know he's right. You do need

1251
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: a succession plan, whatever that's going to be. And I'm

1252
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: sure they upstairs they're not going to broadcast that succession

1253
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: pan publicly. I'm sure they do have one. They they

1254
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: certainly do, or they're working on one. Um. You know,

1255
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: April is not far away when this draft starts to

1256
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: come around. So there's lots lots that's gonna happen between

1257
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: now and then. I think that, you know, depending on

1258
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: where if you're in the top five, you said that

1259
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: the Giants could be Um, you gotta I don't know.

1260
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: There's not a quarterback and we haven't really gone after

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00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: him that much to get in to know it, but

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Speaker 1: just from looking at college football this year and and

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00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: getting excited about anything, I'm I'd be more excited about

1264
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: one of these pass rushers or or or an offensive

1265
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: lineman than I would about any of these quarter pass rushers. Especially.

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Speaker 1: We had Tony Pauline. We interviewed him today. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: be on the pregame show on Sunday as a recorded interview.

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Speaker 1: You are during the show when you guys are a

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00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: MetLife central and he basically said that as excited as

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Speaker 1: people were about the quarterbacks last year, that's what this

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00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: year is for defensive linemen and pass rushers. But you

1272
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: can times it by ten. That's how many big time

1273
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: defensive linemen are in this draft class. And boy, if

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00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: you watched the Giants this year, what's one thing you

1275
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: know that they need? They need a pass rusher. So

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Speaker 1: I think when all said and done, that's probably where

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01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna end up going, unless they like either Little

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01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: or Jonah Williams, the two offensive tackles that could be

1279
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: in the first round of the straft in the top fifteen.

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Speaker 1: That is yet Jeff or just something what you just said,

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01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: what does the Giants need in the defense while they're

1282
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: tied in sacks in the national foots? Not good final

1283
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: call the show for the final time this year. Wow,

1284
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: feeling about I got a bad feeling about this too, jokes.

1285
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: I am happy, you know, Charlie. I'm not happy with

1286
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: you because now whenever a player is at with an illness,

1287
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway, Jun you missed the game for the next

1288
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: last night, all I think about is you, and it's

1289
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: a real problem. Hey, I just want to set the

1290
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: record trade about Mr will beat Allen. Jared Allen was

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01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 1: offside that the captain excuses Charlie from Portland, Maine. Happy

1292
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: New Year, Charlie, Mary Christmas how warrior. But hey, guys, hey,

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01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: look I I what we need. We got playmakers on

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01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: the offense. You got O'Dell, You've got you know Barkley.

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01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: We don't have that playmaker on the defensive side of

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01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: the ball that can can stop drive, that can change

1297
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: the drive. That's why we've been losing games and that's

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01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: what we need. We need. So if it's if it's

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01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: a pass rusher and that's who we need. If it's

1300
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: a free safety that can actually, you know, tackle, and

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01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,479
Speaker 1: intercept balls. That's what we need. You need at least

1302
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: one or two playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. Yes,

1303
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna get one of them. I'm telling you it's coming.

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01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: That's my opinion. You're gonna get one this year in

1305
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: the first round. That's what I'm saying. A pass rusher, Yeah,

1306
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: we got it, we have to. And the other thing

1307
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: from Michigan Man Local Boy. Yeah. Uh. There was a post.

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01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't know who it was, but somebody was saying

1309
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: that they're giants. I don't know if this is true.

1310
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: Are actually looking at Ingram as a wide receiver and

1311
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: that's what they might go with next year, treating him

1312
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. Where was that, Charlie? What what

1313
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: football genius put that up on the internet? I don't

1314
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: remember who it was, but that's been my opinion for

1315
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: the last two years that he is a w I think,

1316
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: and if I think, if you bring in Plaxico to

1317
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: work with him and over the you know, off season,

1318
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: and let's teach him like what he did. Charlie, I

1319
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: want you to hold on for one second. I'm gonna

1320
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: ask Jeff Egos a question because he played with Plastical bars,

1321
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: no one knows him better. Jeff loves him as a

1322
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Jeff compare Ingram as an athlete that can

1323
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: separate against cornerbacks Plexico versus Evan Ingram. Well, there's not

1324
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: much difference in my opinion. You don't think Burrows was

1325
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: a lot faster on the outside. Yeah, that's the point.

1326
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: He thinks England could be burst as a receiver. My

1327
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: point is, actually, he's got nearly as quick as he is.

1328
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: I I don't. I think with some work. I think

1329
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 1: there's some merit to this conversation, but but I put

1330
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: no listen to me. I think there is some merit

1331
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: to it, but I don't want it to happen because

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01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: I feel like you need him as a tight end

1333
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: because of what John said earlier about matchups against safeties

1334
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: and linebackers. Once we put him outside, he's now on

1335
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: cornerbacks where those guys are pretty good linebackers and safeties

1336
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: are not good cover guys. You can use the st

1337
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: they can use them in the slot. Now they use

1338
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: them in the slot. Now they do use him in

1339
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: the slot now. So I get it not to maybe

1340
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: have to lose a little bit of weight to be

1341
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: maybe to twenty five and be six ft four. What

1342
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: is the six three six four? Yeah, right now he's

1343
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: around six three to forty. He'd have to try to

1344
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: get down to about two. Look if he dropped twenty

1345
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: five pounds, and yeah, sure he could do it. But

1346
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: is that what you want him to do? I think

1347
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: he's a wide receiver. I don't think he's a tight end.

1348
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: And I think some people on the sea that maybe

1349
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: that is that's the case with him, and I think

1350
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: he could be our third wide receiver or even our

1351
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: second wide. Really, do you really think do you really

1352
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: think that his blocking has cost his team a lot

1353
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: of games this year? I mean seriously, Uh, maybe his

1354
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: lack of blocking might have might have. You know, they're

1355
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: not they're not going on the field going a man

1356
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: A good thing that I hope. I hope Ingram blocks

1357
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: well today because if he doesn't, we're gonna lose the game.

1358
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: But like I said, I'd bring Plaxico in to work

1359
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: with him. And and you know he's catching the ball now,

1360
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: he's not dropping passes. So I just was pretty smooth,

1361
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: pretty smooth off the bar. I mean he's yeah, we

1362
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: can always pick up another tight end in the draft.

1363
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: You know we can get a probably good tight ends. Well,

1364
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: first of all, tight ends take two or three years

1365
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: to develop. They're one of the slowest developing positions in

1366
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: the league. Hard position blocking, well, he's not a blocking

1367
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: They have Scott Simons and Right Allison. How many blockers

1368
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: do you want to the damn team. I'm just saying

1369
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: if you're worried about that, I'm saying you can pick

1370
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: up with the tight end. I'm not worried about No.

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01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: I want to match up issue with tight end. That's

1372
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: why I want everything here but titan. I want someone

1373
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: that's a matchup problem, that can go down the scene,

1374
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: that could run past the linebacker, that can beat the safety.

1375
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: That's why one Evan Ingram a tight end. Charlie, let

1376
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. If he works like Flaxico,

1377
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: it works with him. He can beat He can beat

1378
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: cornerbacks because he can outbody them and he's fast as

1379
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: any cornerback. You need separation in this league, Charlie, You

1380
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 1: need separation. He's not going to separate against cornerbacks. Charlie,

1381
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: who do you want in the first draft? Who do

1382
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: you want in the first round? This year with the Giants, quickly.

1383
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to. I want a playmaker,

1384
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: so it's probably going to be a defensive end or

1385
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: if there's an incredible left tackle sitting there then but

1386
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: i'd rather get that in the free agency period. I'd

1387
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: rather get a proven tackle and free agency and I

1388
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: would go for the past rushing. What are your big

1389
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve plans, Charlie? What you got? Well? New

1390
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: Year's Eve? Yeah, that's January one, December thirty one, New

1391
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: Year's Eve. You know, I'm not sure yet. We might

1392
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: go out. We might go out, or we might just

1393
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: hang out at home and uh, you know, just have

1394
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: our own little party. Or we might go out and

1395
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: we haven't decided. Sounds like a throwing plan, Charlie, have fun, buddy,

1396
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: Happy New Year pal. You'd be good. Okay, good Charlie,

1397
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: Hey you too. Everyone stays safe on New Year's He's

1398
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: absolutely right. Everyone be careful if you do indulge, drink responsibly.

1399
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: Of course we don't mind you that big weoku golf

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Speaker 1: Life is presented by Corps Light. Download the course Light

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01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: Awards apt to an amazing giants prizes throughout the season.

1402
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: Enjoy Corpse Light when you celebrate your New Year's Eve, Jeff,

1403
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Good times. We'll see on Sunday for Corpse

1404
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: Light Giants game. They on w f A N at

1405
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: eleven thirty. Will also be live at the MetLife Stage

1406
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: at MetLife Stadium before Giants and Cowboys beginning at eleven thirty.

1407
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: You hear from Eli Manning and b J Hill in

1408
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: the pregame show as well as myself, Jeff, Lance Meadow

1409
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: and the Great Paul Doe, Tino, and you know from

1410
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: Bob Pop and Crawl Banks as well. Then the game

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01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: follows on Fan and we have the post game and

1412
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. So everybody have a great weekend.

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01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: We will be back here on Monday. On New Year's Eve,

1414
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: we will have a show. We do not have a

1415
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: show on New Year's Day, and then we'll be back

1416
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. The rest of the week and then starting

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01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: I believe it's January seventh day, does that sound right?

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01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: The Monday, January seven, they're gonna go back to noon,

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01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: get back to the lunch hour. So we'll give your

1420
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Speaker 1: heads up on that moving forward on Big Blue Kick

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Speaker 1: Off Live for Figgles Schmell going over again. See you

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Speaker 1: next time, everybody,