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Speaker 1: I said, I los Amanda's please.

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Speaker 2: Hey boo, it's me Ross And welcome to Ghosted by

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Speaker 2: Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that

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Speaker 2: I like about the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, Gord, I got to talk to my dear

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Speaker 1: friend Rachel Stavis also known as r. H. Stavis her

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Speaker 1: fancy author name. And Okay, she's been on this pod

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Speaker 1: many times. I haven't had her on in a minute.

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Speaker 1: We were so long overdue. And if you're unfamiliar with her,

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Speaker 1: she is an exorcist and she has this amazing book.

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Speaker 1: We talk about it a little bit. But you know,

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Speaker 1: there's new listeners that maybe have not heard any conversations

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Speaker 1: Just keep listening and you'll get the idea. But she's amazing,

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Speaker 1: and me and many people I know have witnessed her

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Speaker 1: abilities and I'm here for it. She's just so cool.

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Speaker 1: She's so cool. Anyway, I think you're gonna enjoy this conversation, so,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's just get into it as I always.

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Speaker 1: You can see any of my live dates at roz

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Speaker 1: Hernandez tour dot com. Okay, here's my conversation with our

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Speaker 1: my sister in Bangs. That's true Sister of Darkness, which

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Speaker 1: is the name of her book. Our H Staves, also

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Speaker 1: known as Rachel. Yes to you, Hi, Hi, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: I missed you.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know I missed you too. We

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Speaker 3: You can have both.

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Speaker 1: I know, I like to work. I like to work

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Speaker 1: in a more expert level person here and there.

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Speaker 1: And you've been on this podcast at least three times.

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Speaker 3: I did a live show with you, okay for Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there might be people that are new to

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Speaker 1: you on this podcast at least. So maybe we should

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Speaker 1: go back to like our age Davis one, oh one,

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Speaker 1: because you're a situation.

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Speaker 3: I'm a situationship.

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Speaker 1: You're a situation Well, first of all, the easiest way

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Speaker 1: for people to learn is just to read your book.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yes, So I had a memoir come out with

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Speaker 3: HarperCollins a minute ago called Sister of Darkness, and it

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Speaker 1: It is so good. It's like I remember reading it

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Speaker 1: And you're the exercist to the stars. You. I don't

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you guys everything. It was what I

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Speaker 1: That's right. Yes, And you also gave me a tourmaline ring, yes,

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Speaker 3: Good. I'm glad because that it really does help. I

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Speaker 3: That's how we hang out, I know. Okay, So sometimes

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just I'm just pulling a name out.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even she never said that.

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Speaker 3: I don't out people who you don't.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing, and really that's really cool because people should

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Speaker 3: They definitely should. And I will say this too. The

434
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: only time I've ever really had to sign NDA's are

435
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: spaces makes sense?

436
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: Oh, like buildings that you go to.

437
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: Yes, because if you have a casino, if you have

438
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: a cruise ship, if you have a ship, stop, they

439
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: had a demon on the cruise Ship's done planes?

440
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: What?

441
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 3: Yes?

442
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: What was wrong with the plane?

443
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 3: The ad demus?

444
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: Wait, going back to the rock star thing. Yes, do

445
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: you believe in the concept of like selling your soul

446
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: to the devil for success?

447
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 2: No?

448
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: Not really.

449
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: I mean not to say that people don't do weird

450
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 3: things right, or try to summon weird things get themselves

451
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: in trouble, you know, because I think there are people

452
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: who are very curious about the occult and are like,

453
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: it's no big deal, it's probably fake, and then do

454
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: something stupid. It's sure, so maybe try to do that,

455
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 3: but it doesn't really work.

456
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: So like deals don't go down like that.

457
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: It's not quite that way. It's like, remember we've had

458
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: this conversation before. But like I guess for people who

459
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 3: have not heard this before, remember when I talked to

460
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 3: you about realm walkers. Walkers are what people consider I

461
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: think the devil and realm walkers are the most malignant

462
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 3: entity there is. They're the ones who I consider like

463
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: movie style entity, right, So they're the ones that you

464
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: always see, you know, possessing this girl on a farm

465
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 3: right in the middle of nowhere because they lost their

466
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: faith or you know whatever. That's not how it works.

467
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: That rarely ever happens, because first of all, realm walkers

468
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: are very rare, and they have the ability to hold

469
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 3: buildings many people at once. Like anything that a lesser

470
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: one can do, it can do.

471
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: Is this also like the influential people one.

472
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, That's where I was going. So so realm walkers.

473
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: And this is just logical too. I think if you

474
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 3: really think about it, if they can do all this damage,

475
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: what are they going to do with this girl on

476
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: a farm just run through her family? That's pointless. What

477
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 3: they want are people who are world changers, you know,

478
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: people who can make great and powerful influence, because that's

479
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: the whole typical good versus evil point, right, So they're

480
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: not going to go after that girl on a farm

481
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: unless we know that someday that's her job, you know

482
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: what I mean.

483
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: So, and they can see in the future like that.

484
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: Time is just very different. But for deceased people as well,

485
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: just very different. It's just not it's like on a plane,

486
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 3: I don't know how to it's like a chessboard, like

487
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 3: they can see the moves, they can see it all.

488
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 3: It just is a different rate of time. Yeah, so

489
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 3: you know those and something else are usually the ones

490
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: that hold spaces.

491
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: Do you think that, like there could be a rock

492
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: star that gets one of those because they have so

493
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: much influence.

494
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 3: That's it? Okay for sure? So anyone who is of

495
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 3: a certain caliber that reaches x amount of people and

496
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 3: can influence X amount of people is a world changer.

497
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: I mean just thinking, sure, sure, you know to some degree,

498
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: like even you know, a YouTuber with like twenty million

499
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: followers technically is a world changer.

500
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: Right. Well, I'm a little bit bummed I didn't get

501
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: one of those.

502
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: Not yet.

503
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: Well I know who to call. That's the good news. Okay,

504
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: what's in this box?

505
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 3: Okay?

506
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: So Ross, is this haunted?

507
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: I know that you constantly and we have had arguments

508
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: about Annabelle. Say I say what I say still to

509
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: this day, No demon an Annabelle. I'm gonna get so

510
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: many dams. You love a haunted doll and you like

511
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: to debate. We've gone over many ebays. Is this doll haunted?

512
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: Of course?

513
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: Is it non haunted?

514
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: Is my thing?

515
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: Stories about haunted doll everybody's like, I'm ina tell ros

516
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: about my haunted doll.

517
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: Of course.

518
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: So I wanted to bring you something that I know

519
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: is haunted.

520
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: You're keeping it.

521
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: No, it's for you, No, trust me. Read the card first.

522
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: Well it actually it doesn't matter. You can. You can

523
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: look at it whatever you want to do.

524
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't.

525
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: But look, don't worry because I put it in look

526
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: Fort Knox.

527
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: Wait, so there's like an actual it's like a locker.

528
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 3: But don't lock it. You just open it.

529
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: Is it gonna pop out it?

530
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: It's gonna pop out at you. I don't do that.

531
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: It's a skull.

532
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: It's a skull.

533
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: It's a black skull. For anyone that can't see. This

534
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: box is really cute. Oh it's a picky bang.

535
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I picked out that box for you.

536
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so who is this?

537
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: I guess you'll have to open the car.

538
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: Okay. Now here's the thing. I do not like haunt.

539
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't want haunted up. I want to make fun

540
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: of them.

541
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: You're gonna like this one, I promise.

542
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: Is it gonna make me famous? Okay? Your spirit? Ward

543
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: is Lois Lois Lois was a musical theater teacher in

544
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: high school in Texas. She died in nineteen eighty three

545
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: of a heart issue, but often jokes that her students

546
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 1: were the death of her. She was loud, charismatic, and

547
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: well loved. She drank Arnold palmers and smoked filterless cigarettes.

548
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: She had an appreciation of looseight, furniture, love lucy. She

549
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: enjoyed singing, but no one else enjoyed her singing. Relatable.

550
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: Lois never married, but wants you to know that she

551
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: was a quote strong man magnet.

552
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: Those were her words.

553
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: Lois chose you. She wants to protect you and your

554
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: home from negative energy. In exchange, please place her somewhere

555
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: nice and offer her some things she likes, including musicals, gossip, cigarettes,

556
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: and gold. She is two stones, obsidian for protection and

557
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: grounding and labridite for spirit connection. Her message to you

558
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: is quote, there are bad days and good days, but

559
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: all days can be great if you stay true to

560
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: who you are, no matter what other people think. Oh

561
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: my god.

562
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: Okay, so let me explain.

563
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: So that's not as scary.

564
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: No no, no, no. So as you know, part of

565
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: my ability is to communicate with deceased people.

566
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: Yes, and I've seen you make many people cry.

567
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: Yes, because you've been to seances of mine and we

568
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: say they're sciances. They're not seances really, they're platforming. So

569
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: you know, I will have a bunch of people. I

570
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: usually only do this for friends and family. Yeah, it's private,

571
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: you know, And we have a bunch of people, and

572
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: whoever's deceased relatives come in.

573
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: You know.

574
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: We just are like, hey, here's a message, and I

575
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: start saying the message, and then people are like, I

576
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: think that's for me, and then we would all it

577
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: down to whoever that's for, right. So I started to

578
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: get the idea because for myself, I have a lot

579
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: of crystal skulls. I love skulls. I do too, like

580
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: I mean, hello hello. Yes. I also just so you know,

581
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: for you, because I never wear color because again vampire

582
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: I wore for you. You can't see them, but these

583
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: skull butterflies that are pink.

584
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: Cute, pink skulls with butterfly wings. Yes, as ear rings

585
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: exactable for you. Those are super cute.

586
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: I thought you'd like them. I love them. But anyway,

587
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: so for me, whenever I've had large crystal skulls, because

588
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: of course I have large crystal skills that I take

589
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: with me on vacation. Don't ask, don't ask. I was

590
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 3: starting to channel in de ceaze people who wanted to

591
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: help be guides, like who wanted to be in the

592
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: room I worked on, people who wanted to help with things,

593
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: who wanted to help me, you know that kind of thing.

594
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: And I just thought, I find this very comforting. Yeah,

595
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: I wonder if other people would like this, you know,

596
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: if I started doing this for others. So I did.

597
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: I started doing it for others, just at first, just friends,

598
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: and I just wanted to see how it came in.

599
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: And I would just sit there to channel with whatever

600
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: that item was, and I would say, okay, like who

601
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: is this? Who is for this person? And I would

602
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: just start to get all the information and it got

603
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: really crazy because I would then give people like because

604
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: I've channeled this for people I don't know, or people's

605
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: friends or whatever, like my friend's friends, somebody else, and

606
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: I would get things like, you know this, this person

607
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: died in whatever you know, nineteen eighty nine, I'm making

608
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: this up now, nineteen eighty nine, and was like a

609
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: movie theater manager. And then it would go to the

610
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: person and they would come back and they would be like,

611
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: oh my God, my dad was a movie theater manager,

612
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: so it's always correct. I never know who it is.

613
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: But these are spirits who want to come in and

614
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: help protect. They want a job. Oh interesting, Yeah, they

615
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: want to be with you.

616
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: They're unemployed, and they're like, I mean, honestly, my life

617
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: is fun. I would be a great for any unemployed

618
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: spirit exactly to be I'm not welcoming any unemployed spirit.

619
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: Well you have one, but I want Lois to know

620
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: that you really hit the jackpot over here, ladies.

621
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: I mean I think she knew because when I sat

622
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: down to channel for you, because I know you, I'm like,

623
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: who is going to be enough? Like who is going

624
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: to be big enough? And she was like I'm big enough.

625
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: I'm coming in.

626
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: Yes. I do love the thought of a teacher being

627
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: like be yourself.

628
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 3: Well, I think because like the impression I get from

629
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: everything that she gave me, because you know, when I channel,

630
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 3: it's like words, pictures, emotions. Oh the emotions are actually

631
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: like I want to punch people over the emotions. But

632
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: I can talk about that in a minute. But I

633
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: think she felt like she was constantly censored because she's

634
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: such a big personality. Oh interesting, you know, so people

635
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: were like, you're too big, right, yeah, And for me,

636
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm in no such thing as too big, Like I'm

637
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: big enough, you know what I mean.

638
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: Like, I think that's something that Loes might have said,

639
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: because you know, she is kind of a dick magnet.

640
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: Apparently, yeah she was, and I'm sure she said it.

641
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: Wait can I take her out or no? Yeah?

642
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 3: Of course?

643
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: Does she have her own little blankie?

644
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? I put a little soft thing in there.

645
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: Is she don't bite me? No? Oh, just kidding, just kidding,

646
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: Oh my god. First of all, this is such a

647
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: nice crystal.

648
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's beautiful.

649
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: So you're saying that you had this crystal first, yes,

650
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: and then you put Lewis in here.

651
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: Well, it's not really in there. So this is so

652
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: funny because people always ask that too, are like are

653
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: they stuck in there? No, they're not stuck in there

654
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: and are not in there. It's just a grounded piece

655
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: that they're attached. It's so beautiful, it's really pretty. I

656
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: love that one.

657
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: How is that you?

658
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 3: She's not gonna tell you on camera.

659
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: Wait wait she's saying something.

660
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: Oh oh maybe she is.

661
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: Let's go get some man in cigarettes. Ah, babe, that

662
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: sounds like fun.

663
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: Honestly, that's what you've wanted your whole life long.

664
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: I would love to be two single ladies, the two

665
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: of us. What if I just like take her with

666
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: me to the bar.

667
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 3: You can and I have. I am the crazy woman

668
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: going back to that that takes skulls that are like

669
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: I'm not even kidding you, ra It's like, I have

670
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: one that's this big.

671
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: I love that.

672
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: I'll pack a suitcase of skulls. This is not a joke.

673
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: They're not.

674
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: No, They're very heavy. So I will take them, especially

675
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: if i'm driving, Like I think you know, I like

676
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: to go up to the mineral hot springs.

677
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: Oh that's right.

678
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: So I'll go up to my favorite mineral hot springs

679
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: to go away from people for a while, and I'll

680
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 3: pack a suitcase of skulls and I will bring them

681
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: and I will put them in the water with me.

682
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: Lady, has she done a bath in the mineral health? Wow?

683
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: She's all clean.

684
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: I love it. And plus it's like a pretty skull too,

685
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: like sometimes you want it, you want it one of

686
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: these skulls, and it's like whose bone structure was that?

687
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: This is a pretty skull, nice cheek bones. She looks

688
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: good set of teeth, nothing missing. No, it's beautiful. Well,

689
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: thank you. And I do want to make it very

690
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: clear to people, this is not an invitation for you

691
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: to send me your haunted doll. This is coming from

692
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 1: a professional.

693
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: It's true. It's true that.

694
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: I can call if I needed if Lois took a turn.

695
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 3: It hasn't happened yet.

696
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: But you're pretty convinced that this is a good oh

697
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: spirits you see, and I trust you that you would

698
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: know the difference.

699
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: I absolutely know the difference because.

700
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: To me, if some ghost was like, hey, I'm a ghost,

701
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: want to come play, and I'm like, oh wow, what

702
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: a nice person, and then like it turns out it's

703
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: like just.

704
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: Credit no no, I And you know I know the

705
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: difference because people send me their possessed items all the time,

706
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: right and cases I've had with particular items that I

707
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: keep at what I call diminished capacity so that they're

708
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: still in there but they don't get to move too

709
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,959
Speaker 3: far out so I can study them.

710
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: Have you had them like try to escape?

711
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: No, they're not. They don't have enough room for that technically,

712
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: but they complain like you can hear their voices. I've

713
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: done Okay, this is getting I'm gonna be as weird

714
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: as possible today. I've I've recorded them talking to each other. Stop,

715
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: I've recorded. I've put it on TikTok, like it's on there.

716
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: What I want to hear?

717
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 3: Where's the You can't hear it, but you can see

718
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: it's I put the captions on.

719
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: Oh, so you can tell what they're saying.

720
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: I just wanted to see if they're gonna speak. And

721
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: I left the room. I just recorded them and put

722
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: captions on, right, okay, and just let it run for

723
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 3: like five minutes. And they had a whole conversation with

724
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: each other that I posted. And I also got them recently.

725
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: And this is where you're going to think, like, oh

726
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: my god, this woman. I got them a theremon.

727
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: Oh, I love a theram Mayn.

728
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 3: I got them a Theremn. So I got them a Theremn.

729
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: I got them, you know, an amp and I have

730
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: yet to set it up, but I want them to

731
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 3: be able to make music.

732
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's beautiful. Yeah, maybe you can be

733
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: like their mamager. Get them get them going, get a career, go.

734
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, make some money for me. God, we were just sitting.

735
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: Here at the least. I mean, that's the thing with Annabelle.

736
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: She made a lot of money.

737
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: She sure did, She's sure.

738
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: Lois. Listen up, lady, let's get let's get mama a

739
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: film contract.

740
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: Well, actually I have one with one of my unpublished

741
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 3: case files.

742
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

743
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Possession at Rosewood it's being made stop?

744
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: Wait what what what's the story? Congratulations?

745
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 3: Thank you? Yeah, and Sister of Darkness side note is

746
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 3: also going through for television. Finally. That took a forever,

747
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: but it.

748
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: Is oh good.

749
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 3: Yeah. So Possession at Rosewood was my scariest story to date.

750
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: Have I heard this one?

751
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: I don't know about the inn by eight times?

752
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: Would you be willing to change it to Possession at Roswood?

753
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, okay, just one. It's not the name

754
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 1: of the place anyway. Okay, I can call it whatever

755
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: I want. Okay, So what was this real story?

756
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: So? Okay. A few years back I did something I

757
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 3: don't know what. It was, some kind of interview somewhere,

758
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 3: and someone sent me an email and was like, hey,

759
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 3: I saw you on the thing. I have an inn

760
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: in a certain location. I don't like to say where,

761
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: because like I don't want to out anybody's anything because

762
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: people start looking. Yeah, you know, in a certain American

763
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: location that has been around since the eighteen hundreds had

764
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: had a fire. You know, it sat around for a while,

765
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 3: nobody rebuilt it. I invested in it. I wanted to

766
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: bring it back to like its old glory, but like updated.

767
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: And he was saying that he had sunk a lot

768
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: of money into it, like basically everything, and he had

769
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 3: a bunch of workers that no longer would work on

770
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 3: the property, and it was getting bad, Like there were accidents.

771
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 3: There was all kinds of stuff going on, people saying

772
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 3: they saw things. There was a situation where they started

773
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: putting Do you know what a spirit bottle tree is?

774
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: No? What's that?

775
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: Okay? So you've probably seen them though, especially in the South.

776
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: Oh, just a bunch of like bottles the.

777
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 3: Tree hanging from the tree. Yeah, that's to catch ghosts.

778
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: Oh really, maybe I need to do that just to

779
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: be safe.

780
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean, why not? It's also pretty Yeah, But anyway,

781
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: I guess the workers were doing that outside the property.

782
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: So he was like, this is a mess, Like I

783
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: need to get finished. So I was like, do you

784
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: believe there's something going on here? And he's like, it

785
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: doesn't really matter, like I just need, like we have

786
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: to open in three days, Like that's it. We have

787
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: to open in three days. We have to get this.

788
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: It's finished. So I hate saying this, but I think

789
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: it's true. At the time, I was cocky. I really

790
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: was cocky, you know, because I've been doing this a

791
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 3: long time. I'm pretty confident in my ability.

792
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: I want a cocky exercist.

793
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: Don't you. I mean he.

794
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: Wants an exorcist. That's like, I think we'll try.

795
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that because I

796
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 3: have been told that I'm in my book, I'm arrogant,

797
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, it's not arrogance, like you know me,

798
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 3: I'm not.

799
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: Angry even if you are, who cares?

800
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: But you know that's not even true.

801
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's good. It's all like you are confident,

802
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: and I think people should be confident, yes, if they

803
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: can back it up.

804
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 3: And so far, you know. So anyway, I was like, okay, yeah,

805
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 3: I'll take this gig and I'll go do it. So

806
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: I did, and it was in a very intense situation.

807
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 3: I thought what I was dealing with before I got

808
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: there was going to be a collector, and a collector

809
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: is what normally holds the space. So a collector likes

810
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: the space of mass trauma. Here was a fire, right,

811
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 3: it kind of pulls this thing in energetically. And if

812
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: the deceased people don't want to move forward, so there's

813
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: no such thing as deceased people being stuck. But there

814
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: are such thing as decease people being like, I don't

815
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: know what to do now. Okay, you know, I'm just

816
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: staying in the same place because they're traumatized. So a

817
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 3: collector will take a place that has high foot traffic,

818
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 3: keep deceased people in place, and use them like batteries

819
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: to scare the living so that it can feed off

820
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: living people. Okay, so does that make sense. I know

821
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: that's kind of a weird explanation.

822
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: No, I get it.

823
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: So when you go in to clear a collector, you

824
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: have to clear the batteries first. So you have to

825
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: have conversations, literal conversations with the deceased people and let

826
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: them know that it's safe to move on, and one

827
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: by one you release the deceased people and then expose

828
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: the entity.

829
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: How did the deceased people get in this building.

830
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 3: Because of whatever fire?

831
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: They died in the fire.

832
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: There were a lot of people who died in the

833
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 3: fire way back when. OK So, I was like, oh,

834
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: this will be nothing, twenty four hours. I'll get this done.

835
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 3: I'll get there happy to decease people. They'll be happy

836
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: to see me, because they usually are. They're usually like, oh,

837
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: someone sees me and they can talk to me, and

838
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: oh I can go somewhere.

839
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: They're like, i've heard you on ghosting.

840
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah, exactly. And so I'm like, one and done.

841
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: I'll just get in there, get them all out, clean

842
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: it up. Yeah, yeah, no problem. That is not what

843
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: was there, not at all. So I get into this space.

844
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: I have three days. I stay in the space. That's

845
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 3: what happens, like you once you you know this once,

846
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: once I start an exorcism, I cannot stop the exorcism

847
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: because it will make things worse. And a few times

848
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 3: where people have challenged me to stop, they've called me crying,

849
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 3: being like I don't know what the hell I was thinking.

850
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: Get back here and finish it. But I don't argue

851
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 3: with people. I'm like, you'll figure it out.

852
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: So do you sleep or do you stay up this

853
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: whole time?

854
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: It depends on how big the space is how many

855
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: times I have to go through the space, like no

856
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: stone unturned. You you can't just sit in a lobby

857
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: and be like it's gone, like you have to go

858
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: through everything. It's it processed. Yeah. So I was there

859
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: and I was in this space and it was very ornate,

860
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: like old mirrors, old like gramophone style thing like just

861
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: every thing was like, I think, very pretty, you know,

862
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: that's like my jam, but definitely didn't feel good in

863
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 3: the space at all. And I went into I don't

864
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: know how to put this, okay, So there was a

865
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 3: ballroom on the second floor, so there was how it

866
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: was set up was there was a stair, a landing

867
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: with a huge mirror, like giant, big heavy mirror, and

868
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: then another landing that kind of went into this ballroom,

869
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: this very big ballroom.

870
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Wow. And this was a business or a house.

871
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 3: A business an in an inn. And as soon as

872
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: I got there, the record started playing like the second

873
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: that I got there, and it was ain't misbehaving, That's

874
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 3: what it was playing over and over again. So I

875
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: would go, I would move, I would turn it off,

876
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: it would play again. I would go and then I'd

877
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: like it just kept playing. Whether it was anyway, just

878
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: kept playing.

879
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: And this kind of stuff. This doesn't scare you.

880
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 3: Not at first, because these are what I consider parlor tricks.

881
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 3: This is like, you know, okay, you're playing like you

882
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 3: got my attention, you know.

883
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: Are you kind of like not bad? But just wait,

884
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: I can take care of you.

885
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: Yes, Like that's not the thing that's going to scare me.

886
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: Like I get that stuff a lot and I'm used

887
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: to it. So I was like, okay, you played a record. Cool.

888
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: So I go, I'm walking under the ballroom and I

889
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: see legs dancing.

890
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: But nobody just lag. Well.

891
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: The reason why I figured out later was because the

892
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: floor was moved. The original floor was pushed up, so

893
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: I was only seeing like half of them, right, because

894
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: they were in the same place.

895
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: That's what that was, where the dance floor was that

896
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: they were used to ye, So.

897
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: At some point they raised the ceiling. So I'm like, oh, okay, cool,

898
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm going to go up there first because I'm sensing

899
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 3: the entity, but it's not showing itself to me at all.

900
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: Whose legs, like would you guess male? Female?

901
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 3: Both? Really they were people dancing, you know, like dressed

902
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: up people dancing. Uh huh, so I'm sensing the entity,

903
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: but it's skirting me, so it's watching me. I'm not

904
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 3: seeing it. So I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna give it space.

905
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: But in the meantime, I'm gonna go take out its batteries.

906
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: So I go upstairs and I walk into this what

907
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: felt like a massive ballroom, but this place is not

908
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 3: that big, but it just felt really cavernous. And I

909
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: see all of these people and I'm like, Okay, this

910
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: is gonna be fine. I'm just gonna go release them

911
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 3: one by one, tell them they don't have to be here,

912
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: it's cool, and can just.

913
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: Make an announcement. Listen up, everybody.

914
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I've never done it. I've tried

915
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: to be like personal. I try to have a relationship.

916
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm very busy here, I know. So if you

917
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: can all just one at a time, get the fuck

918
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: out exactly.

919
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe I should start getting like a megaphone

920
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 3: and just being like ghosts.

921
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: That's how I would do it, But for you, you

922
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: do it your way.

923
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 3: Yes, that's my way. I try to be helpful. So

924
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, I get up there ready to

925
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 3: do the thing I do all the time, and there's

926
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 3: something wrong with them. There's something wrong with them. There's

927
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 3: some kind of look in their eyes that is like borg,

928
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean, Like it's like hive mind.

929
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 3: Now I'm cautious because I'm like, this doesn't feel normal.

930
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: So I'm walking through very slowly. They're all watching me

931
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: like they've stopped dancing. They're all watching me, and it's

932
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: not a friendly feeling room. And then they circle me. No,

933
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: they did, absolutely did, and started talking to me. I

934
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 3: was like, what is going on here? Like I really

935
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 3: couldn't process this at all, so unusual, it's never happens,

936
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 3: since it never happened before. And then I realized what

937
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: was going on is that they were still possessed by

938
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: the entity, like mentally, like energetically, so they weren't themselves.

939
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 3: And that's when I realized, oh shit, this entity was

940
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 3: here during that fire, like before that even happened, maybe

941
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 3: caused it, maybe possess someone to start it, okay, And

942
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 3: it became a really scary endeavor for me because I

943
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: had to not clear the deceased people first, because they

944
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: were not going to go. They just weren't going to go,

945
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: so I had to go straight to the entity, and

946
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: in this particular case, this entity was specific to a location,

947
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 3: so it wasn't even something I was used to. It

948
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: was something totally different. It was something in which it

949
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: would change your reflection in the mirror, like it did

950
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: so many crazy things. And it was the only entity

951
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: ever that sly touched me. Yeah here you can see

952
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: it the scar on my hand, oh, which was like

953
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: a burn. It felt like a burn. And so I

954
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 3: didn't know exactly what I was going to do. And

955
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: at that point, you know, as a person, right, you're like,

956
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: I'm getting the fuck out of here, Like I'm not

957
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 3: doing this, Honestly, I almost did. It's like the one

958
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 3: time I almost left because I never do that. I

959
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 3: never do that because I am a person of integrity.

960
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 3: I like to think, and so when I say I'm

961
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 3: going to do something, I will see that through, especially

962
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: this kind of thing, because other people don't do it.

963
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: So what am I going to do? So I went

964
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: to the door and I was like, I know this

965
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 3: is going to be like my last chance to leave

966
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: before this shit just go. It's just gonna wail. And

967
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 3: I had my hand on the door and I remember

968
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: just thinking, well, fuck, like if I do leave, he's

969
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: going to open this place anyway, and then what happens

970
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 3: to all these people? Like I can't do that, So

971
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: I have to see it through. And so I stayed

972
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: and I figured it out and it you know, I

973
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: don't want to give away everything about it. Yes, obviously

974
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 3: I want people to go see it, but when it's

975
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 3: available to see. But it was traumatizing, really traumatizing. And

976
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: it's the one time where technically I released the entity,

977
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: but it is not destroyed.

978
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: Where is it?

979
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: It's it's every now and again I see it. It's

980
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 3: like BRANCHI following me, you know what I mean?

981
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: Stop? Yeah, what do you think it's like? Do you

982
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: think it's waiting?

983
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 3: I don't really know what it wants because it really,

984
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: it's not going to be able to kill me. Let's

985
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 3: be honest.

986
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: It's going to want a piece of that movie. That's

987
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: what it wants.

988
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: Maybe it just wants to be famous.

989
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: Just let me have casting approval who played me.

990
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 3: Maybe it's looking to direct.

991
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: Wait, how many people would you say when you're talking

992
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: about these.

993
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 3: Spirits, like how many were in there?

994
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

995
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: I didn't count them, but if I had to guess,

996
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 3: I would say it was probably like somewhere between fifty

997
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: and seventy five.

998
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

999
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: And it was so much worse than I'm saying, Like

1000
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 3: there were points where people were jumping out of windows,

1001
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 3: like I would see it replay downstairs, that bodies would

1002
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: come out like it was crazy. There was like a

1003
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: worker in a coma at one point, like just a law.

1004
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 3: It was so dark. And it went back to that

1005
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: mirror on the landing.

1006
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: Cause were they gateways?

1007
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: Whoas? It was something like I can't remember the exact

1008
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 3: story now because it's been a few years and I

1009
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 3: haven't written down, but it was something like the original

1010
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: owners or builders of this space, they brought this thing

1011
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: over from Europe, this giant mirror, and they used it

1012
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: for something, not that kind of something. It wasn't on

1013
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: the ceiling also would have killed them, it was so heavy.

1014
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, this is good. We do have to wrap

1015
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: it up.

1016
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 3: This is what happens. We could do this forever.

1017
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: I love hearing all of it. You have to come back.

1018
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: What what do I do with Lois?

1019
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 3: So you're just gonna put Lois somewhere and ice that

1020
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 3: you like?

1021
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: Ice? No?

1022
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 3: Nice?

1023
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: Oh? I think you said put her somewhere on ice.

1024
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: I mean you'd have to talk to her about that.

1025
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: Maybe she does want ice.

1026
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1027
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 3: Of course, you can put away okay, good, put her

1028
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 3: somewhere nice where you know you see her and she

1029
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 3: can like see the house, and then just you know,

1030
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 3: put out offerings for her, like she likes like cigarettes

1031
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 3: and gossip with her and stuff, and you know, listen,

1032
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: it's a relationship. You have to nurture it.

1033
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: Now, what if I don't, is she gonna turn leave?

1034
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: No? Yeah, they just leave if they feel like they're underappreciated.

1035
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice. This is so sweet. It's like I

1036
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you literally gave me like a pet.

1037
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah kind of right, but like an autonomous being.

1038
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure she.

1039
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 3: Can take care of herself. She just likes things. Okay,

1040
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 3: it's a relationship. You know, if you don't nurture relationship,

1041
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 3: what happens? They leave?

1042
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: True? And she and I know what it's like to

1043
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: be single. Ladies so exactly.

1044
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: And also, man, magnets.

1045
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: I love her, thank you so much. They're is such

1046
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: a beautiful crystal.

1047
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 3: Anyway, Like I'm so glad you like her, and I

1048
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: love who came in for you. I just think she's amazing.

1049
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: Good. Do I keep her in the box though?

1050
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 3: No, you don't have to. I just wanted to. I

1051
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 3: always present them in a box, so I wanted to

1052
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: get you a box that to me was you.

1053
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: It's such a cute box.

1054
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 3: It's really cute, and it's a bank. You can put

1055
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: coins in it.

1056
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: You keep the box, No, you keep it. You can

1057
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: give it to the next person.

1058
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: That box is specifically for you.

1059
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I love it. No, I love it

1060
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: so much, I really do. Okay, I just feel so

1061
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: guilty taking all of this.

1062
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 3: No, but also you can keep her in the box

1063
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 3: and keep the door open if you want to.

1064
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: Like a little house, I'm upsess she comes complete with

1065
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: her own little like dire.

1066
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: That's a dream house. Yeah, she's asleep.

1067
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: She fell over. Do you think she moved on her own?

1068
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: Or was that me?

1069
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 3: You'll find out soon enough.

1070
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So what do we need to tell people? What

1071
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: do you got going on? What do you want? Okay?

1072
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: Well, working on Possession at Rosewood. That will be a

1073
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 3: feature film. We are working on that now. Oh good,

1074
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 3: thank you, sister of darkness. We are finally making a

1075
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 3: show based on the memoir. So I'm psyched about that.

1076
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 3: That should be cool. And this is a weird side note.

1077
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 3: Just this morning, I it looks like I'm going to

1078
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 3: be working on sci fi project that I really want

1079
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 3: to do, which is weird for me, Like I'm not

1080
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 3: usually sci fi, but I'm kind of into it.

1081
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 1: Cool because that's the thing. Like, you are a writer,

1082
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: you also have a history of working in like the

1083
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: comic book world.

1084
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,479
Speaker 3: Yes, I used to write comics and video games still

1085
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: my Baracraft, Yep, Lara Croft, Transformers, something monstrous, like I've

1086
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: worked with Marvel, like I've done a lot of I'm

1087
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: a nerd, like I'm such an I'm I am like

1088
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Speaker 3: I'm such a nerd, like I geek out over so

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Speaker 3: much ridiculous stuff. But yeah, that's my heart. My heart

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00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: is always comics and video games and still is. So

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Speaker 3: you know, every now and again, I'm like, maybe I

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Speaker 3: should write some more. I don't know, but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love it and and I try to create story

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Speaker 3: now when I do write, to kind of be as

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Speaker 3: or even direct, like I've had a few chances to

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Speaker 3: direct now and it's just like I want it to

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Speaker 3: be that full color of full you know, what I mean, Like, Fashy.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see like your expression of the way

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Speaker 1: you see the world, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Sister of Darkness being a TV show,

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Speaker 1: your book being a TV show, I'm so excited to

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Speaker 1: see your yeah interpretation of like the closest you can

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Speaker 1: show us to what it's like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: True, And even with Rosewood, like what is that even

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Speaker 3: going to look like? It's going to be crazy because

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Speaker 3: I have to show you what an entity looks like

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Speaker 3: to me. And then how the next question becomes how

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Speaker 3: do you do that properly? You know, because there are

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Speaker 3: ways you could really mess that up and make it

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Speaker 3: look not as scary as it is. So it's like,

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Speaker 3: how do we make that actually terrifying?

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I have nice legs. Yes, I would love

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Speaker 1: to offer my legs for that opening scene.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, don't start something you can't finish.

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Speaker 1: I would love it so much if I could just

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Speaker 1: have my legs dancing around dancing for the scene where

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Speaker 1: you're walking up the stairs and you see legs.

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Speaker 3: I would like that I can make that happen, just

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Speaker 3: so you know, Yay.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well thanks for doing this Thank you for Demon Lady.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad we got to hang out.

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Speaker 1: And that's an episode. Thank you so much to the Exorcist,

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Speaker 1: the Exorcister, the Demon Lady, our h Davis. Wow, and

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Speaker 1: guess what now I got Lois. I'm happy about it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: could be way worse. And Lois's she's going to be

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Speaker 1: here in the exactly right studio. I think she's gonna

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Speaker 1: get a lot of gossip. I'm going to try to

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Speaker 1: get my hands on some cigarettes for her unfiltered, and

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Speaker 1: the gossip will be unfiltered, so at least I I

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Speaker 1: can promise her that. And uh maybe she'll be my

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Speaker 1: new co host. Who knows. So anyway, thank you Rachel,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for listening. I love you all, both

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Speaker 1: living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to

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Speaker 1: haunt me, don't haunt me, hey By. This has been

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Speaker 1: an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal experience

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. I read stories out loud and sometimes

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Speaker 1: I'll even call you, so email me at ghosted by

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Speaker 1: startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Christina Chamberlain.

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Speaker 1: This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie

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Speaker 1: Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.

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Speaker 1: My theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.

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Speaker 1: Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, the

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