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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast. Pot all right,

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Speaker 1: here we go.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen Funny, twenty five, thirty thirty five, Horny Cody five fifty.

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Speaker 3: And the kick as Black Comic Football Laura Stunners. Oh

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Speaker 3: my goodness, he stumbled and grumble the lateral turn a

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Speaker 3: car on the inside, Jus Ladna table off the field

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Speaker 3: to night. It's not the side of the.

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Speaker 2: Dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight

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Speaker 2: in the dog. Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is a group of five Deep Dive. I'm Mike Calbury,

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Speaker 2: joined as always by Mike Iinello and of the road time.

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Speaker 2: Here in the Group of five, we have five championship

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Speaker 2: bouts to preview for you. One upping the power for

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Speaker 2: so take that. We're going to go through our G

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Speaker 2: five hero from week fourteen, give you the laydown on

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Speaker 2: each of these championship matchups, and talk a little bit

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Speaker 2: about the college Football Playoff. Some futures we have in

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Speaker 2: our back pocket, some futures potentially to consider moving forward.

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Speaker 2: But I would say this, what's interesting about the Group

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Speaker 2: of five is that there was a lot of emphasis

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Speaker 2: in the preseason placed on finally a seat at the table.

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Speaker 2: Our top champ is going to have that auto bid,

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Speaker 2: and now even better, the top champ if boys you

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Speaker 2: can handle their business, is going to have a buy

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Speaker 2: into the quarterfinals. That's fantastic. But my G five hero

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Speaker 2: comes from a conference that has been basically drawing dead

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Speaker 2: of course is cusa conference. USA came down to a

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Speaker 2: fifty yard kick at the very end of the game

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Speaker 2: between Western Kentucky and Jacksonville State, and if you're watching

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Speaker 2: on YouTube, you can see Ianello basically wiggle his hands

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Speaker 2: mocking the way in which that kick went through. Well

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Speaker 2: for Lucas Carnero, he knew, he said, as soon as

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Speaker 2: I could just feel it off of my foot. That's

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Speaker 2: a confident kid, and he deserves to be that confident.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen for sixteen this year on field goals five for

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Speaker 2: five for fifty yards, plus he's been perfect in his

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Speaker 2: career on extra points. Snubbed for the lou Groz Award.

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Speaker 2: He should have been a finalist. He was a semi finalist.

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Speaker 2: But I just love to see these teams, these specialists

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Speaker 2: come through Stuck talked about it during our preview season

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Speaker 2: back in August. He'd always get into the nitty gritty.

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Speaker 2: He'd bring it up with a lot of MAX schools,

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Speaker 2: some Conference USA schools as well. These specialists can make

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Speaker 2: the difference, and it was awesome to see him do that.

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Speaker 2: And now we have the rarely seen back to back

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Speaker 2: rematch week to week. Let's see what happens in this one.

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Speaker 2: We'll get down into the Conference USA muck and go

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Speaker 2: through this game. That's a little bit difficult to preview.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into why in just a moment. But Ianello,

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Speaker 2: who do you have as your Week fourteen hero?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's to go on. I Loki think that's the

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Speaker 1: I'm interested to talk with you about that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we go with our listeners because we've been doing this

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Speaker 1: is everything we do is public, Everything we do is tracked.

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Speaker 1: You can go look up all of our records over

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Speaker 1: the last month, week, year, any sport, whatever you want

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Speaker 1: We had a horrible year, and we get that it sucks.

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Speaker 1: thank the listeners for sticking with us all year, for

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Speaker 1: Thank you for sticking with us. We will be better

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Speaker 2: Well, you talking about Riding Diego takes us perfectly into

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Speaker 2: Don't worry. I'm gonna have plenty of bets during Conference

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Speaker 2: title week here in this episode. This is not one

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Speaker 2: When back in August we thought, well, it's a FATA company,

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Speaker 2: Liberty's just going to run the table. It's gonna be boring,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as I mentioned this game is extremely hard dandic

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Speaker 1: I think it'll come back down. I expected to close

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Speaker 2: Do you know where Darien Mensa played high school football?

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Speaker 1: Right, and Bryson Daily's from Texas. I don't yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Would say Bryson Daly is probably a little bit more rugged.

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Speaker 2: We got more games to get to here, let's hop to.

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Speaker 1: The other put a pin in this. If we don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So let's let's find out by the episode ends

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Speaker 1: These are both the cool sharks town.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's plenty of army gear, black night gear that

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Speaker 2: LV going to the Smurf Turf taking on the Boise

432
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Speaker 2: State Broncos, laying four on their home field at fifty

433
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 2: eight and a half as the total here. So here's

434
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 2: my thought, as you know, are.

435
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Speaker 1: We gonna do it?

436
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 2: Are we going to do? What?

437
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 1: Are we going to? Are we turning heel on our boys?

438
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 2: We are not. And I think you're gonna like how

439
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: I present this. So, as you know, I got a

440
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,959
Speaker 2: massive ticket on Boise five hundred to one to win

441
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: the national title. I also have a juicy ticket I

442
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 2: think it was twenty eight or twenty nine to one

443
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 2: on UNLV to make the college football playoffs. So I

444
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 2: am in good position in this game. But when I

445
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 2: broke it down, I wanted to get into the nitty gritty,

446
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 2: and as you know, I love a good double results.

447
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 2: So I'm going UNLV to lead at half and Boise

448
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: to come back and win. And here's the thing. Both

449
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 2: of these teams have been very good first half teams.

450
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: When you look at the entire season, Boise has averaged

451
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 2: a ten point lead at halftime, scoring nearly twenty two

452
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 2: points per game in the first half. UNLV at about

453
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 2: let's call it nine points advantage at halftime throughout the season.

454
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Speaker 2: But when you look at the past month or zh,

455
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: Boises struggled to get out of the starting blocks a

456
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 2: little bit, tied with Nevada fourteen fourteen, tied with San

457
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: Jose fourteen fourteen, tied with Wyoming ten ten, and then

458
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 2: they know they led Oregon State twenty one to seven

459
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: and a half. And then when you look at UNLV

460
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: small lead against the Rainbow Warriors a half, they're up

461
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: twenty eight six on San Diego State. They trailed San

462
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: Jose State, came back and won, and they just raced

463
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: out to an early lead against the wolf Pack they

464
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: were up twenty four to seven. I think with the

465
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Speaker 2: benefit of the go go offense and Brennan Marion getting

466
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 2: to put together some scripted drives, getting to use Hodjmaleiku

467
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: Williams's legs to be able to punish them in terms

468
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: of some of the blitzes that they put on tape

469
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: in their October meeting, I think the likelihood for some

470
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: fireworks and some offense early from the running ReBs is

471
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: on the table. We also know that if Boise punts,

472
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: alarm bells have to be going off because they got

473
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 2: Ricky White being a game changer in that element of

474
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Speaker 2: the offense as well.

475
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Speaker 1: Did you see did you see A and M did it?

476
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: A and M put a receiver on punch and he

477
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: blocked it easily. He hit him in the stomach. Why

478
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: doesn't every team do this?

479
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think basically you've gotten to these special teams coordinators,

480
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: they've maken please. Now like when we look at the

481
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: Round one between UNLV and Boise. The running ReBs strategy

482
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: last time was simple. They're going to stack the box.

483
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: They said, we are not going to lose solely to

484
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: gen Z. They still gave up twenty nine points. Gents

485
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 2: scores the game winning touchdown in the fourth, But essentially

486
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: what they were doing is they're putting the pressure on

487
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: the quarterback on Madson to you know, essentially make plays

488
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: with his legs and with his arm. And he was

489
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: able to do just enough in that one. But I

490
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 2: trust more in Boise to swing this game with big

491
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 2: plays in terms of winning in crunch time in the

492
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: second half, they're nineteenth in defensive havoc created. And when

493
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: you dare Madson to beat you, I think he's proven.

494
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: He's given me enough that I believe in it. And

495
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 2: I look at what UNLV has struggled, and they've wilted

496
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: down the stretch. That Syracuse game is still seared in

497
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: my memory. The round one with the Broncos as well.

498
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: Jackson Woodard can only do so much. He's basically a superman,

499
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: making up for so many issues in their front seven,

500
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 2: making so many plays, dropping the coverage, making interceptions. He

501
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: is everything to that defense. But I just think as

502
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: the game goes on, Boise has been in this position,

503
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 2: They've been in close games. I trust them to close

504
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: things out. Let me see if I have any more

505
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: notes here that I'd like to get into now. I mean, basically,

506
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: like I said, the double result UNLV at half Boys

507
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: to win pay seven to one. I think that's a

508
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 2: pretty reasonable game script when you look at how these

509
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: teams have played in the first thirty minutes in the

510
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: past month, how they looked in the first meeting as well,

511
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: and the fact that I think Genty is getting over

512
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: some of those injuries that he had suffered. I was

513
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: worried that he was going to break down. I think

514
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: as a college football universe, we were all hoping that

515
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: he would just stay healthy and just obliterate Barry Sanders record.

516
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: He's not going to get there, you know, at this point,

517
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 2: at least not in this game. He could in the playoffs,

518
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 2: but overall, I think he's looked a little bit sharper

519
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: down the stretch, and hopefully we get a full game

520
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: of him playing it, you know, top speed, win or lose.

521
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: I just want to see the best G five champion.

522
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: I think it's in this game, We're going to find it,

523
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 2: and whoever wins it punches their ticket.

524
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mentioned at the top we've had a bad year.

525
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to make fun of me or chirt

526
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: me if I lose this bet, because I hope I

527
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: lose this bet. I want to lose this bet. I'm

528
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: praying I lose this bet. I think you know V

529
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: wins this game. I agree with you. I want to

530
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: see the best champ. I think Boise is the most

531
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: deserving G five team. I think having the narrative of

532
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: a three seed buy your only loss was on the

533
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: road to the number one undefeated team. Maybe not by three.

534
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: I think you know V beats him here. Gent is

535
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: a man amongst the boys, but the Rebels defense held

536
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: him to three point eight yards per carry, by far,

537
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: his least efficient output of the high season. He was

538
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: never held below four point eight yards in any other game.

539
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: They held them to three point eight. Boise State won

540
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 1: that game by five. But you mentioned Matt Maddox Madsen

541
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: doing just enough and making the plays when they needed it.

542
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: He was.

543
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: They were four for four on fourth down, and if

544
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, all four of them were Matt Madson

545
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: either running it or making the right throw. They're not

546
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: going four for four again. UNOV also missed the field

547
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: goal in that game, and they threw it bad interception

548
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: that gave Boise State the ball at the seven yard

549
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: line going into the end zone. So the Rebels averaged

550
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: six point three yards per play on this Boise State defense.

551
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: And most importantly, Hosma Leek Williams was not sacked once

552
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: all game by this boise pass rush, which is their strength.

553
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: Williams ran all over this defense. I expect him to

554
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: be able to do it again. We know this UNLV

555
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: defense thrives on forcing turnovers. They are fifth in the

556
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 1: country in turnover margin. They have seventeen picks in twelve

557
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: games this year. You'll get Madson. He has done twenty

558
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: one touchdowns in three interceptions. Yet he has twelve turnover

559
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: worthy plays this season. He is itching for an interception,

560
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: including a turnover worthy play against UNOV that wasn't picked off.

561
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: He has managed just six big time throws all year.

562
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: He is not somebody who is going to beat you

563
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: over the top, which is what allows the secondary to

564
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: cheat a little more on those short routes, which allows

565
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: them to stack the box to take away genty. This

566
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: defense is good enough and aggressive enough to cheat against

567
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: genty and not have it burned them As we saw.

568
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: UNLV has averaged three point two rushing yards per carry

569
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: all season on defense. They have allowed one rushing touchdown

570
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: since Halloween. This defense is nasty. Boise State and Kansas

571
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: are the only two teams that rushed for over one

572
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards on them all season, and Bois

573
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: needed forty carries to do it. Now get Boise has

574
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: the home for the advantage, which is huge. But I

575
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: give the coaching advantage to UNLV here with both their

576
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: head coach and their offensive coordinators.

577
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: Well well coordinators, sure, head coach. Are we sure about

578
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: Barry Otam being the better head coach?

579
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you hated Spencer Danielson all offseason. You talk,

580
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: You and Colin were like their defense was trash and

581
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: now they.

582
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: No, No, that was Colin who hated both their defensive coordinators.

583
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: Just I just want to clarify. Barry Otam is my

584
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: only issue with UNLV because he has had some late

585
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: game management issues. He's had some questionable decisions leading games.

586
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: Marion's the best coach on the field.

587
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: Yes, that's fine, I'm okay with that.

588
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: We saw Boise win this exact matchup in the Mountain

589
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: West title game last year. I think UNLV gets their

590
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: revenge here in the rematch. I hope I'm wrong, I

591
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: honestly do. But I'm gonna take UNLV plus four or better,

592
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: all right, I do.

593
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: We are on to the MAC title game, this one

594
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: at a neutral site, playing indoors between the Ohio Bobcats

595
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: and the Miami of Ohio RedHawks. The RedHawks playing two

596
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: and a half, depending on the book out there, forty

597
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: four and a half for the total. This is the issue,

598
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: you know, with all of these conferences as they grow,

599
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: Although the MAC has been the exact same size, you

600
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: don't get even schedules. I don't want to take anything

601
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: away from Ohio hand up right here. Didn't see this

602
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: coming from the Bobs. This year exceeded expectations in every

603
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: single possible way. But when you look at it, five

604
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: teams finished with winning records in MAC play, Ohio face

605
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: two of them. They lost thirty to twenty against these

606
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: same RedHawks, and then they drilled Buffalo forty seven to sixteen.

607
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: Miami beat Ohio thirty to twenty. As I mentioned. They

608
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: also beat Bowling Green twenty eight to twelve. Now, when

609
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: I get into this, Brett Gabbert stayed healthy.

610
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: Huzzah.

611
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: We've been waiting for it his entire career. We got

612
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: to see what he would do being able to, you know,

613
00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: string together consecutive games through October through November. Congratulations. I'm

614
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: happy for this kid. During their seven game win streak,

615
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: he had four games with three or more passing touchdowns.

616
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: He was everything that we hoped he would be in

617
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: terms of a veteran quarterback. This is what you were

618
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: hoping when you were previewing the team back in August.

619
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: The defense held five opponents to two touchdowns or less.

620
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: This is just one of those teams that I think

621
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: has such a strong identity. You can make an argument

622
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 2: under coach Martin that they have a stronger identity than

623
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: any team in the G five. Now, when you pair

624
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: Gabbert with this defense, good things are bound to happen.

625
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: The RedHawks are eleventh and past success rate, their twelfth

626
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: and quality drives surrendered, and first nationally in big plays surrendered.

627
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: It's a grind scoring points on them. That's no news.

628
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: But up against Ohio are the Bobs going to be

629
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: able to create enough big plays to score, certainly more

630
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: than they did in the first meeting when they only

631
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: mustered twenty, which I don't think will be enough either

632
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: to win outright or to even cover in this game.

633
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: But here's the other one where things can swing and

634
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: they can get really ugly for the Bobs. Special teams,

635
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: the RedHawks are no longer otherworldly. They lose their Lou

636
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: Groza kicker to Alabama, but they still finished a respectable

637
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: forty second in overall special teams grade. That's a huge

638
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: advantage over in Ohio special teams unit that checks in

639
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: at one hundred and twelve hidden yards flipping the field,

640
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: squeezing out wins under the key number three. Give me

641
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: the Red Hawks here, I'll lay the points. I think

642
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: this is back to back titles for Chuck Martin.

643
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: YEP, completely agree, first back to back MAC title since

644
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: twenty eleven to twenty twelve. No, the Illinois if it

645
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: does happen, yeay. The RedHawks are just They're red hot.

646
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: They have won seven straight games. They've outscored their opponents

647
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty three and ninety over that stretch.

648
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: They have not a lot more than twenty one points

649
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: during that streak, and they have scored at least twenty

650
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: seven and all but one they'll high one. As you mentioned,

651
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean for five years we've been saying, oh, I

652
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: like Miami, but they if gaber can stay healthy. Last

653
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: year he gets hurt, they still managed to win the MAC.

654
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: Now he's finally healthy, and as you said, he is

655
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: playing excellent right now. He got off to a bit

656
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: of a slow start, did not look like himself early on.

657
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: We talked about that a lot. Twenty one touchdowns, ten

658
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: picks on the year. Over the last seven games, sixteen touchdowns,

659
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: three picks. Running back key On Moses averaging six and

660
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: a half per carry. They have three good receivers, Virgil

661
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: Tracy McDonald. Miami's defense is not as dominant as it

662
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: was last year, and they still have solo pack. They

663
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: still have a great lineback and corps. But I think

664
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: the offense is better than it was last year. And

665
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: you mentioned a lot biggest surprise in the country, they

666
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: had two returning starters in total nine to three, seven

667
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: to one in MAC play. They have five straight wins themselves.

668
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: But you mentioned it if you look at the max

669
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: standings and you start at the bottom and work your

670
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: way up. Kent State Ball, State Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Acron, Toledo.

671
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: Those are six of their seven conference wins. Then they

672
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: got to go in over Buffalo. They run the ball

673
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: extremely well with Anthony Tyas, Ricky Hunt and Parker Navarro.

674
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: But Navarro is not much of a passer at all.

675
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean down in this game, they're the head

676
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: right in the lion. Because they got to throw into

677
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: this defense, It's gonna be a nightmare.

678
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: Miami was in a situation where they had to win

679
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: to reach the title game. They beat Northern Illinois. They

680
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: beat Bowling Green to clinch a spot on the road.

681
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: And you said they, I mean they beat this Ohio

682
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: team thirty to twenty back in October, Gabbards through three

683
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, Mosey had one hundred and eleven yards. Mosey

684
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: averaged seven yards per carry in that game. The RedHawks

685
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: defense picked off Navarro twice. They held them to just

686
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: thirty eight rushing yards. In that game. The Bobs averaged

687
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: three point three yards per carry on the ground. They

688
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: also scored with six seconds left to make it a

689
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: ten point game. This game was thirty to six. Halfway

690
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: through the fourth quarter, Miami drilled them like it was

691
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: not a ten point game. So they scored twice in

692
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: the last like five minutes to kind of make it

693
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: look a little bit more presentable. Miami smoked them. I

694
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: think their offense looks strong. Their defense is playing dominant again,

695
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: especially against the run, which is what they're gonna need here.

696
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: They've they've allowed just two point eight yards per carry

697
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: over the last seven games, so we saw in the

698
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: first meeting. If Io can't run the ball, they're in trouble.

699
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't expect them to. I think there's a little

700
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: bit of unfinished business for Gabert two. You know, he

701
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: didn't get to win the MAC title. He wasn't in

702
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: the game. Right off to plaint, well, I agree with you.

703
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: Anything under three, I'm all over the Miami Ohio.

704
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's close things out with another campus game,

705
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: which is I think all the G five games should

706
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: be campus games. But I kind of like Detroit. I'm

707
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: not going to disparage the MACT. It's not the worst thing.

708
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: It's right. It's deep in MAC country in Detroit. It's

709
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: easy for the fan bases to get there.

710
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: I understand, the only problem is it shouldn't be in

711
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: a dumb They should play it out like Camerica Park

712
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: in the snow.

713
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: All right, Marshall traveling to Lafayette, Louisiana, take on the

714
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: rage of Cajuns who are laying five and a half

715
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: on their home field total sitting at fifty six and

716
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: a Half's let's go in the time machine here. Marshall

717
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: opens one and two. They're coming off a forty nine

718
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: fourteen blowout loss to Ohio State. I mean, I'll admit it.

719
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: Maybe you can share in these thoughts. I thought, is

720
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: Charles huff safe? Is this the right job for Is

721
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Marshall headed in the right direction? Oh? Boy? They reel

722
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: off eight of nine games, They find their quarterback in

723
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: Tulsa transfer Brayalen Braxton, and they come within a point

724
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: of a perfect season in the Sun Belt. Talk about

725
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: not seeing something coming. We just talked about Ohio Marshall

726
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: coming from way off the map to just absolutely dominate

727
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: what we thought was going to be a real house

728
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: of horrors in terms of their Sun Belt schedule. So

729
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: many potential teams buying for a conference title, a division title.

730
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: Marshall just handled their business consistently. Their only loss, as

731
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: I mentioned, a one pointer twenty four to twenty three

732
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: shocker at Georgia Southern, where they blew a twenty point

733
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: fourth quarter lead. So it very easily could have been

734
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: a perfect season in the Belt for them. Their win

735
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: probability halfway through the fourth quarter of that game ninety

736
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: nine point nine percent. But we're not going to belabor

737
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: the point here. There's so much to celebrate about the

738
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: Thundering Herd. They still run the ball a lot, their

739
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: top twenty in rush rate. They're not always super efficient,

740
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: but thanks to aj Turner, they popped eleven runs of

741
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: thirty plus yards lately, though it's been running back by committee.

742
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: You got Jordan Houston, you got Ethan Payne, you got Turner.

743
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: Plus Braxon can certainly run it. He's somebody who can

744
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: go for triple digits as a dual threat quarterback. The

745
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: Marshall D, though they're the headline, they have been awesome.

746
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: Third in coverage, nineteenth in pass rush that's a deadly combo,

747
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 2: thirtieth in defensive havoc overall. Now, Louisiana was a collegeable

748
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: playoff dark horse, and then they lose it home to

749
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: South Alabama not the worst loss in the world. South

750
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: Alabama was certainly in the mix to win the Sun

751
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: Belt West. Then Monroe gives them a game last week.

752
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: It was a one possession game in the closing minutes.

753
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: So when I started getting into it, who is the

754
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: best team? Truly throw out the the SP plus your

755
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: power rankings. Just look at the schedule with me, pop

756
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: it up on your phone. Who is Louisiana's best win

757
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: this entire season? Is it coastal there? I don't know,

758
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: eighty eighth in SP plus?

759
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: Texas State, Yeah, Arkansas State, Texas State, Yeah.

760
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: I mean they beat Texas State by six.

761
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: They work for they bet Wake on the road.

762
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: I mean Marshall. Conversely, you know they beat Western Michigan,

763
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: they beat James Madison. I don't know. I think that

764
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: in terms of this matchup, I understand that there's home

765
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: field at play here. I'm just going to take the points.

766
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: I think this defense from Marshall can keep it lower scoring.

767
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that we get one of the runners. I

768
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: don't care who it is. There's going to be probably

769
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: four or five guys who get five plus carries in

770
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: this game for the Thundering herd. Can somebody pop a

771
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: long run and make this a four quarter battle. In

772
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: that case, I want the points. I'll go ahead and

773
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: take five and a half. I take any number over four.

774
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: I still think it's in a sweet position right now

775
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: from a value spot to grab Marshall from a team

776
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: that has been absolutely red hot. Not that Louisiana is

777
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: leaking oil by any stretch, but they've proven when you

778
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: have teams that want to shrink the game down a

779
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: La Monro, that they can get into a rock fight.

780
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: So I think Marshall very easily can coax them into that.

781
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: And they have a defense that can create turnovers, create havoc,

782
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: negative plays that Louisiana hasn't had to deal with all

783
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: that often this year because they've been so efficient. I

784
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: may even fool around a little sprinkle on the money

785
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: line as well. What are your thoughts here in the

786
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: Sun Belt title bouts.

787
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no idea. I think Louisiana is the

788
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: better team, but Marshall has been the most profitable team

789
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: in the country this season. They are ten one and

790
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: one against the spread. They are four to zero to

791
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: one against the spread as an underdog, so betting against

792
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: them is crazy. I really like the Louisiana offense. They're

793
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: fifteenth in the country in success right. They have three

794
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: really good running backs, they have a deep receiver room,

795
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: and we really have not seen a drop off from

796
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: Wilridge to Chandler fields five touchdowns, one pick in two

797
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: and a half games. It was really really good against Troy.

798
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: You know, they they're two and zero with him as

799
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: the starter. And I don't trust this Louisiana defense very much.

800
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: But I still have reservations about the Marshall offense. They

801
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: can't throw the ball at all. I mean, their entire

802
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: offense is like you said, it's big plays with Turner

803
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: and Braxton's legs. So it's kind of just the question

804
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: on how much can they score against the Louisiana defense.

805
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: And while you mentioned Marshall has a terrific pass defense,

806
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: they're great in coverage. They're ninety ninth in the country

807
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: and rushing success rate allowed. So Bill Davis and z

808
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: Alan Perry should have a good game. They should be

809
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: able to run this team. I mean last week against

810
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: the ULM they ran it forty four times, two hundred

811
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: and twenty three yards and three scores. If they stick

812
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: to that game plan. Marshall could be in trouble.

813
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: If I could to interject here with that line of reasoning,

814
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: which I think is very reasonable. Do you think under

815
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: is a play here? If you got both teams trying

816
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: to play a running clock situation fifty six and a half,

817
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it starts to get pretty sweaty

818
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: if you get back to back, you know, seven and

819
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: eight play drives in the first quarters already over.

820
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't hate it at all. I don't really

821
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: give much thought. I've definitely the under before the over.

822
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, see know like in Marshall, like Old Dominion.

823
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: Like I said, Old Dominion ran for two hundred and

824
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: eighty six charge and four scores against Marshall James Madison

825
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: at two forty four and two scores. So Marshall has

826
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: played tremendous all season. I mean, I'm not as bulls

827
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: on the schedules year. I feel like they played all

828
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 1: the worst teams in the Sunbelt. And I mean Marshall

829
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: didn't beat a single team with a winning record all

830
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: year until the James Madison win in double overtime, which,

831
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: by the way, Charles soft big Ball is pulling out

832
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 1: a Philly Special in double ot to win. It was awesome.

833
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: I was watching that game. I was very as much

834
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: as I mean it cost me my James Madison wind

835
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: but obviously Charles Soft Penn State guy. I mean, yeah,

836
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: they didn't bet a single team with the winning record

837
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: all year. So I what I had originally written down

838
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: was five and a half seems high to quote, you know,

839
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: to quote Stuckey, I can't get to this number. I am.

840
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident that Louisiana wins. So my recommendation was

841
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: going to be parent with the money line, another money

842
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: do a money line, you know, pick another favorite you win.

843
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: I mean, Toulian probably wouldn't. I haven't done the math.

844
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: Toullians probably not a good enough payout pick. You know,

845
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: pair Louisiana money line with Texas or with Arizona State,

846
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: or you know, pick one of those two and a

847
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: half three ish favorites that you really like but don't

848
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: want to lay points. Just do a little cheap money

849
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: line parlay, try to get it in plus money. That's

850
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: what I would do. But I actually certainly don't hate

851
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: the over five and a half because I do think

852
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: this game would close. I think it's probably decided by

853
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: a field goal. I think Louisiana wins, but I think

854
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: five and a half is definitely too high. So I'm

855
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: so not disagreeing with you taking the points. My recommention

856
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: was going to be just pair Louisiana in the money line,

857
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: play with something else. But I don't know taking points

858
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: at all. Like I said, Marshall hasn't won all of

859
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: their games, but they've covered them all, so might as

860
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: well take the points.

861
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, We've made it to the end of

862
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: the road. I'd like to end this episode with three

863
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: fun discussion points. Number one, let's go ahead and have

864
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 2: a head to head bet on that Army two lane.

865
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 2: I'll say it this way.

866
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: If the number we do, I'm not doing sex what

867
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: we want to do?

868
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: Four four and a half. You want to do first half,

869
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: I'll just go straight up first half money line on Army.

870
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: I want the whole game.

871
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: You want the whole game, then, I mean, you gotta

872
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: give me the points. It's on the board.

873
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm not it's moving down. It's four and a half.

874
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: Let's let's get a lot of.

875
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: DraftKings five and a half at Vandel.

876
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 2: I'll tell you so you're gonna give the give yourself

877
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: the best number. If it's four and a half and

878
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 2: five and a half, you're just gonna take the best number.

879
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: Five and a half at one book and four and

880
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: a half at the other. Six.

881
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: How about five of them?

882
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: Fine the lands on five directly, we'll send it to

883
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: We'll send David the winner.

884
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: Okay, here's what I'm thinking. A fifty dollars home field

885
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 2: prize pack of anything too Lane related for you, and

886
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: fifty dollars heading my way, which I'd like to regift

887
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: to any listener who is in the Armed services. A

888
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: fifty dollars don't do that, don't do on Bowl season,

889
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: and anything you want just hit me up on social media.

890
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: I'll pick out some of that.

891
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: Don't be an asshole. You're making me look bad. I'll

892
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: change it. I'll find a cool fighting wave logo. I

893
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: want a twenty five dollars T shirt and you give

894
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: the other twenty five to a member of the Navy.

895
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: How about that?

896
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I think I think that sounds good. Number two

897
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: on my hit list. I'm gonna go ahead and rate

898
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: this up every championship weekends, dating back four or five years,

899
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 2: I've been here at Action Network, Pete Ruden hits me up, says,

900
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: put together an exotic long shot parlay. Give me all

901
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: your craziest gambling ideas outside the box. Let's get an

902
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: article up. I want to test your temperature on this thought.

903
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 2: So looking at it, and you were just bringing up

904
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: the army two lane spread in real time. Look at

905
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: the entire board, all nine championship games, and.

906
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: That's the highest credit. That's the highest bread of the

907
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: entire board exactly.

908
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: So what I would like to do is a round

909
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: robin of overtime. Every single one of them is plus

910
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: fourteen hundred to plus seventeen hundred to go to overtime.

911
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: So if you put together by two's all you need

912
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: are two of the nine to go to ot to

913
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: pay out quite handsomely. I think the last time I

914
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 2: checked the number for a one dollar bet, it pumps

915
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: out three hundred and seventy dollars. If you get two

916
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: of those nine, anything after that, dreams start getting, you know,

917
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: made true. It's gonna be really interesting in that spot.

918
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: So that I just want to see what your reaction.

919
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: I saw your eyebrows go up. What do you think

920
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: about that one?

921
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm just like looking and trying to like in my

922
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: head be like, all right, some belt, the accused is

923
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: probably going to overtime. The SEC's probably going overtime. If

924
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: Penton Oregon goes to over time, I may die, like I,

925
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: I physically am not in good enough shape to handle overtime.

926
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: Like my I'll die. So that one is out. That

927
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: one's nine. We just leave that out for my SnO

928
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: Clemson doesn't have comes in. We'll do something stupid to

929
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: lose before overtime. So you said, if if more than

930
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: two get it, if to get it profitable.

931
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 2: If two get gets it, you're mega profitable on this bet.

932
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: All right, it's gonna be over time.

933
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: And for listeners of all the Action Network podcasts, I

934
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: could see the.

935
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: Sub one going too. I could see I could see

936
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: Keisa Sumbelt and the SEC all going on.

937
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: This was inspired by doctor Nick. He gets into it

938
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: with NFL games all the time that he likes to

939
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: go to overtime. I split it across his desk. He

940
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: just gave me the nod on it. His last thing

941
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: was just make sure you get a good price in

942
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: terms of the overtime market, anything north of fourteen to one.

943
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: He thinks is fair in a game that's you know,

944
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: three or four points on the spread. Let's get to

945
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: one final point here, Trent Dilfer, he's just he just

946
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: gets to keep his job. Forget about the losses. It's

947
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: about the friends you made along the way. It's about

948
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: the journey.

949
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: Ye what hey hey, very fitting for them to announce

950
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: this on Giving Tuesday. What a charitable crock of shit

951
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: that is.

952
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: You know what the worst part of it is, Ianellum.

953
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: If they hire a real bona fide defensive coordinator who

954
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: knows what he's doing, then all of a sudden, I'm

955
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: gonna have to like take a deep breath, take all

956
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 2: my personal animus out of the situation, and say, is

957
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: UAB kind of feisty next year in the American Because offensively,

958
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: they've had their moments and they were kind of a

959
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: ragtag team. They had some interesting options, and Marie Thomas

960
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 2: on the perimeter, Kitna looked better. If they just get

961
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: some kids in the portal defensively in the right coach,

962
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to start pulling for the Blazers. But

963
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: this was a tailor maid pulled the plug flush it

964
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: start from zero situation and they didn't do it, And

965
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: now it's like I don't even know how to process

966
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: it because I think I've given all I can on

967
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: the Trent Deil for hate wagon, and I've laid it

968
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 2: all on the field. I have to go through this again.

969
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: I mean, if they're getting boat raced in September, am

970
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: I still gonna be sitting here watching his pressers. Probably

971
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: it's my job, it's my passion, but it's getting old

972
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: hat at this point. I can't believe he's staying in

973
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: the Magic City for another fall.

974
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: The worst part about it was that statement in saying, like, oh,

975
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: he has a tireless work and okay because he's hated.

976
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: He's admitted that he hates his wife and kids when

977
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: he loses.

978
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: You know, you know what else works hard? A washing machine?

979
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 2: Like who gives a shit?

980
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: He said. The worst part was nil and the transfer

981
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: portal make this perhaps the most challenging time in college

982
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: football history.

983
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: Yet like for him, not for anybody else team.

984
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: In fact, I'd argue it makes it the easiest time

985
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: because you have a coach who's a certified douchebag, but

986
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: all you have to do is write a check and

987
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: he can get anyone to come in. It's the easiest

988
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: way to turn a program around because you don't have

989
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: to be a likable guy anymore, which he is not.

990
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: You just have to write checks, which he still somehow

991
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: can't do. So all silver lining, we get one more

992
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: year to bet under UAB win totals, which are have

993
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: cash every year for us, and I look forward to

994
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: taking it again next year because oh they have promise,

995
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: so it'll probably be six and a half, which is

996
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: a joke. I mean they're quarterback already hit the transfer.

997
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: I think their entire offensive line is in the portal.

998
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, give me UAB under whatever next season.

999
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 2: Walk it up for Mike Iello on Mike Calbery's This

1000
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: has been the group of five Deep Dive under the

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Speaker 2: BBOC banner. You can check us out over at our

1002
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: YouTube channel as well. YouTube channel is where we're going

1003
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: to have our live show back on Saturday for Championship

1004
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: Weekend with Colin Stuck, Brett McMurphy, Johnny Football and myself.

1005
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: Also there is an episode if you're listening on Wednesday morning,

1006
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: Tanner McGrath and I break down just an absolutely loaded

1007
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Speaker 2: Wednesday card, a random card. In December, the Big Twelve

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Speaker 2: Big East Matchup acc SEC. There are nine Ken Palm

1009
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Speaker 2: Top one hundred matchups. If you're just looking to get

1010
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Speaker 2: into college basketball, this is the perfect weeknight to do so,

1011
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: headlined by Auburn at Duke at Cameron Indoor. Our own

1012
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: Chad Milman will be there in person, so look for

1013
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: him on television. Just a lot to love about college

1014
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: sports at this time of the year. I'm getting fired

1015
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Speaker 2: up to get deeper into college hoops, and Tanner helps

1016
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Speaker 2: me get there with his exhaustive breakdowns about everything that team,

1017
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Speaker 2: from the top of the AP Top twenty five all

1018
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Speaker 2: the way down to the Great Danes of Albany, getting

1019
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Speaker 2: into everything you wish you didn't even need to know

1020
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Speaker 2: about college basketball. Tanner's got you covered, all right. That's

1021
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: it for us, guys. Thank you so much for listening,

1022
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: and hopefully I'll get to pay up this Army vets

1023
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: to a serviceman who has bravely defended our nation, because

1024
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: that's just the kind of guy I am. Thanks again.

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