Speaker 1: The Nick. Yes, yes, Nicky, Hello and welcome to the
Speaker 1: Nicky Glazer Podcast Special F Boy Island Edition. We're talking
Speaker 1: all F Boy Island on this episode today. We have
Speaker 1: c J. Franco, who's going to be on. We have
Speaker 1: Josh whose name I for last time? McDonald Josh McDonald
Speaker 1: had a farm. Um, and then we have Garrett Moronskys Morosky.
Speaker 1: I always want to put an N in there, and
Speaker 1: I wonder why now I'm just kidding. Uh, just having
Speaker 1: a lot of fun here, very excited to have all
Speaker 1: these folks on the show. Andrew Colin is also here
Speaker 1: with me. How's it going, Andrew? I just sleep Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: we watched F Boy Island last night. Yes, we watched
Speaker 1: the last two episodes. Yes, we watched the man spl
Speaker 1: in episode nine and the finale episode ten. Andrew, you
Speaker 1: had taken kind of a break you. I think you
Speaker 1: watched the first two episodes, you book ended it and
Speaker 1: then you joked into the end. I felt like I
Speaker 1: understood you were there. You were there, you were there
Speaker 1: with me on the island. Um. As you all know,
Speaker 1: we started this podcast while we were filming F Boy Island. Uh,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions we want to get
Speaker 1: to that were submitted by fans about the show. About
Speaker 1: our experience on the show, we want to give some
Speaker 1: behind the scenes details. Uh. This show came about because
Speaker 1: I my friend Elon Gale, who created the show, has
Speaker 1: always been was a guy that produced on the Bachelor
Speaker 1: for I think over a decade. He Um, he knew
Speaker 1: I loved reality. He was a fan of mine. I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of his. He also is a author. I
Speaker 1: was wrote up a piece for his book. Actually, um,
Speaker 1: he did a comedy book of Like You're Just Not Great.
Speaker 1: It's it's like a it's like a self help book
Speaker 1: about how like you're not that special. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: And I wrote a little blurb about how my therapist
Speaker 1: told me I wasn't a beauty and um, but uh,
Speaker 1: he called me up and was like, you might you
Speaker 1: might be perfect for the show I'm doing. And he
Speaker 1: said the name, and I go, oh my god. I
Speaker 1: saw that in an email from my agents a while back,
Speaker 1: and I wanted it so bad because I just a
Speaker 1: show called that Boy Island clearly is a show that
Speaker 1: makes fun of itself and it needs a host that
Speaker 1: is funny and also is a fan of the genre,
Speaker 1: and I said, Andrew. I got off the phone with
Speaker 1: Elon and I go, Andrew, I remember where I was.
Speaker 1: It was to St. Louis to essentially live with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is, by the way, this is January. You moved
Speaker 1: in January one, and this is I get a call
Speaker 1: January maybe eighteen from Elon, and then within three then
Speaker 1: I hop on with producers on a zoom call. I
Speaker 1: thought it went so well, but then it was a Thursday,
Speaker 1: and then I fat Friday, I heard nothing, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. I've never followed up with my agents
Speaker 1: and managers about something so fast. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't hear from them, and They're like, just give
Speaker 1: it till Monday. It's okay, and I'm like stressed whole weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm texting Ellen like thank you so much, like doing
Speaker 1: anything I can to like just move this along. I
Speaker 1: wanted so bad. And then um and then Monday boom,
Speaker 1: get the offer and I go, Andrew, I think you
Speaker 1: gave out of your room all like bleary eyed. This
Speaker 1: is before you found golf or Brenna, and I go,
Speaker 1: I was right around the time I think maybe you
Speaker 1: started dating Brenna and you're taking your nat before your
Speaker 1: first date, and I go, Andrew, I got f Boy Island,
Speaker 1: which is at that time, seemed like the most absurd
Speaker 1: thing ever. Yeah, I remember you telling me about it
Speaker 1: and you're like, it's called f Boy Island. I know.
Speaker 1: I don't know whether it's like you were still like
Speaker 1: a little bit on the fence just because of the
Speaker 1: name and the silliness of it, But I don't think
Speaker 1: it was really I was psyched about the name, like
Speaker 1: I'm like, because I just thought it was so funny
Speaker 1: and ridiculous, Like if you're gonna go hard, like, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it, do f Boy Island. Don't start
Speaker 1: with some like you know, love Island, Like be funny
Speaker 1: about it. You. I honestly think you've voiced this job
Speaker 1: into it, and I've seen you do this before into existence.
Speaker 1: Like so I remember being on your balcony in New
Speaker 1: York and you being like, because I was taking ship
Speaker 1: the balcony, I remember, and Luigi was shitting and we
Speaker 1: both were on the balcony. If you don't know inside joke.
Speaker 1: Whenever Andrew and I back in my New York apartment,
Speaker 1: if you would come over and I had to take
Speaker 1: a poop. I'd go Andrew balcony and he would go
Speaker 1: out to the balcony while jump off. And but it
Speaker 1: was and I remember you just saying, like, not exactly
Speaker 1: this job, but like somewhere in this genre of like
Speaker 1: you know, either being the Bachelorette or reality being something
Speaker 1: in reality with dating, dating around the world, like you
Speaker 1: voiced this into existence also through hard work the show.
Speaker 1: I pitched a show with an incredible producer that was
Speaker 1: me dating around the world, and like, and I mean
Speaker 1: it was really fun, but um, this was pre code.
Speaker 1: This was better though, because that although this was the
Speaker 1: perfect wave. I mean, I do want to be the
Speaker 1: subject of a reality show and it's it's it's something
Speaker 1: that is truly I keep uh, it's it's it's in
Speaker 1: the works, y'all. But like this, I do believe that.
Speaker 1: After my Dancing with the Stars run, I was like,
Speaker 1: I know, I didn't get enough. I didn't get that
Speaker 1: ended too soon. I'm not done. I went back in
Speaker 1: and um, you're perfect free, You're so good at it.
Speaker 1: I mean you're boasting. This show is like you're perfect.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I hear that a lot. I watch it
Speaker 1: and I go, wow, I could have done that better.
Speaker 1: That There's a lot of things I want to improve on.
Speaker 1: I'm happy about my performance, but there's a lot. Like
Speaker 1: I realized one thing, Um, I want to be more expressive,
Speaker 1: like I was saying it last night. I was like,
Speaker 1: I to you because I think you were saying some
Speaker 1: of the same things, and I was like, no, man,
Speaker 1: I could have done better. I just want to be
Speaker 1: more I want to make more faces and like have
Speaker 1: my feelings show upout your face a little bit. I know,
Speaker 1: maybe I got a little bit too much both from
Speaker 1: my dentist before my dentist gave me botox right before
Speaker 1: I left, and so I was, no, you were you
Speaker 1: had these pensive looks though, when like the more serious
Speaker 1: looks you were giving, I felt like, No, you watched it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was so funny and faces. Okay, tell me, um,
Speaker 1: like give me scenarios that happen on the show. All right, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: so Garrett, I think you're an f boy and like,
Speaker 1: tell me something that happens and I respond to it. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: Like give me an example, o G. Jared tells Nikia
Speaker 1: that he loves her. That really was a moment I
Speaker 1: got goose bumps on my face. That was That was
Speaker 1: when I knew, Oh, I'm I love the show and
Speaker 1: that I'm sold and this is we're making magical TV. Okay,
Speaker 1: so give me another one. Um. Sarah found out that
Speaker 1: she is not adventurous because she is. Gary kept saying, God, Sarah,
Speaker 1: you're just so adventure risk. I saw you like put
Speaker 1: foot in the water, and she goes Smirkeling is not
Speaker 1: an extreme sport. I loved her responses to that. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all about the faces and and uh, there were some,
Speaker 1: there were some great ones. I mean, Garrett made me
Speaker 1: laugh so much on this show and despite myself, I
Speaker 1: am a huge Garrett fan, and no one can understand it.
Speaker 1: All my friends are like, how could why didn't you
Speaker 1: punch him during the finale? How did you just stand there?
Speaker 1: And I go, first of all, that's not my job,
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't like the idea of my
Speaker 1: fist hitting someone's face. It hurts me to even think
Speaker 1: about that. And um, and I honestly I was disappointed
Speaker 1: him and like mad that he would do that to Sarah.
Speaker 1: And after he just got done saying I want to
Speaker 1: wake up every morning and kiss you before I go
Speaker 1: to work, and I want to eat cold pizza with you,
Speaker 1: like right after that speech. It was diabolical, but he
Speaker 1: also makes me laugh. A blonde hair and blue eyes,
Speaker 1: and you happen to have blonde hair and blue eyes
Speaker 1: probably ing ing ding ning. That's all I need to
Speaker 1: like someone is if they look a little bit like me.
Speaker 1: Um no, okay, So Andrew you, I invited you to
Speaker 1: f Boy Island with me almost immediately, I said you're
Speaker 1: coming along because I had a quarantine for two weeks.
Speaker 1: And I go and we're starting the podcast come on
Speaker 1: out there with five degrees in St. Louis. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: we go to Cayman Islands. We quarantine for two weeks.
Speaker 1: We can't leave. We have caution tape on our front
Speaker 1: porch to keep us inside the beach. We can see
Speaker 1: the beach. We're on the beach on some in front
Speaker 1: of your bedroom door. For me, I think keep me out,
Speaker 1: which I thought was rude. Well, it was a flood
Speaker 1: zone and I didn't want you to get in. I
Speaker 1: brought there now in the Cayman Islands. I do want
Speaker 1: to say that it's a very Christian. Um. Yeah, you weren't,
Speaker 1: but you had to smuggle in toys. You were not
Speaker 1: supposed to bring sex toys. That memo did not get
Speaker 1: too old glaze dog, and I brought like six different ones.
Speaker 1: I brought my whole you know, I brought a whole
Speaker 1: jail for bringing a dildo to the Cayman. To be
Speaker 1: the best thing that happened to me, my like Kim
Speaker 1: Kardashian sex tape, whre, I'd be like, oh no, great,
Speaker 1: this is a great headline. But then I ended up
Speaker 1: dealing them to other people of the show. There was
Speaker 1: a producer on the show who was like, I didn't
Speaker 1: bring any because they're illegal here. You know, all people
Speaker 1: in the Cayman out there's no sex stops shops. You
Speaker 1: just have to go to sharper Image and get a
Speaker 1: fucking the new tree. You just have to like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like dry hump a turtle. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: not easy out there. So I dealt one of my
Speaker 1: sex toys to a girl that I had only used once,
Speaker 1: and I cleaned it off like with you know, dawn soap,
Speaker 1: the same stuff you clean ducks off in an oil spill.
Speaker 1: Because let's say this thing I'd been through, you know,
Speaker 1: the Eggs on Valdez disaster, just with one rodeo with
Speaker 1: me and um and I gave it. We had a
Speaker 1: blast on that island. Let's get to some questions, uh
Speaker 1: from our fans about the show and about behind the scene. No, uh, alright,
Speaker 1: I have great questions from our bestie. So can we
Speaker 1: do these kind of rapid fire yes? Okay, uh okay.
Speaker 1: Science Guy Underscored nineteen seventy six asked what were memorable
Speaker 1: moments for you in the show that did not air? Oh,
Speaker 1: memorable moments that did not air? I mean for me,
Speaker 1: it was the the therapy session with all the guys. Uh.
Speaker 1: Anthony uh was so hilarious during that session, and he
Speaker 1: did this really um heartfelt moment where he was talking
Speaker 1: about how hard it was for him to not be
Speaker 1: having sex all the time on this island because he's
Speaker 1: an f boy and he's used to having sex. And
Speaker 1: we had to take this over probably five or six
Speaker 1: times because everyone was laughing so hard. But he really earnestly,
Speaker 1: very sadly, like he was almost you know, recalling how
Speaker 1: his mom passed away or something. Was just like and
Speaker 1: then you know what, Nikki like, it was just really
Speaker 1: hard for me. And there were a lot of times
Speaker 1: where I just like I just had like had to
Speaker 1: beat my meat, and just like him saying beat my
Speaker 1: meat with such with like a tear coming down his
Speaker 1: face was so funny. I just remembered Division and Peter,
Speaker 1: We're all like just cracking up. And then the other
Speaker 1: biggest moment for me was Charlie's elimination. It was on
Speaker 1: the second episode Charlie, the french Man F boy, who
Speaker 1: claimed to be a nice guy when it was time
Speaker 1: for him to reveal his true status was actually an
Speaker 1: F boy. I got confirmation in my um little ear
Speaker 1: from producers that he was indeed and F boy, and
Speaker 1: I lashed out hard at him, and uh took out
Speaker 1: like ten years of bad boyfriends out on Charlie, I know,
Speaker 1: and and and in those ten years, I had one boyfriend.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I took out ten years of
Speaker 1: you know, guys lying to me and um people lying
Speaker 1: for general poor Charlie and my aggressions for France. You know,
Speaker 1: they were rude. The one time I went in high
Speaker 1: school that the guy at the cafe, and that's the
Speaker 1: whole country. I love when that looked at me. But
Speaker 1: now I just I couldn't believe this guy was lying
Speaker 1: to me, and like, and what just boggled my mind
Speaker 1: was that we this is what a recurring thing for
Speaker 1: me on these reality shows when these people lie. And
Speaker 1: then it's gonna air, We're gonna see what you've already said,
Speaker 1: you've claimed you. We didn't just cast you as an
Speaker 1: F boy. I mean, I wasn't part of the casting process,
Speaker 1: but I knew that we had done our research on
Speaker 1: these guys. No one was there as an F boy
Speaker 1: that didn't claim to do F boy things and and
Speaker 1: admit to it. Now whether or not those were true,
Speaker 1: that's another story. But like he had said these things,
Speaker 1: and so during his thing, I lashed out at him
Speaker 1: and I go, Charlie, I go, right now is when
Speaker 1: we are going to actually cut to videotape of you
Speaker 1: saying that you had a woman tossed a drink. And
Speaker 1: I go, now, let's cut to that clip right now.
Speaker 1: And I turned to the camera and they cut that,
Speaker 1: and then at one point I go, are you even French?
Speaker 1: And that really made me laugh and then Charlie at
Speaker 1: one win goes no, but everyone all of these guys
Speaker 1: behind me. They know who I am. They know and
Speaker 1: I go, well, you're not trying to bang them, and
Speaker 1: like they cut that. So but they cut around it
Speaker 1: because I look I looked too unhinged and I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how crazy I looked. Because the next
Speaker 1: night I was so thrilled by it. Everyone loved it.
Speaker 1: But the next day people came up to me at
Speaker 1: the the you know cast party. We had a day
Speaker 1: off and everyone was drinking down at this bar and
Speaker 1: all this these crew members that had not even said
Speaker 1: a word to me before. I had a couple of
Speaker 1: drinks and finally got you know, like the liquid courage
Speaker 1: to say and they all came up to me and
Speaker 1: were like, dude, last night that was terrifying, Like you
Speaker 1: you like destroyed him. And so I actually had to
Speaker 1: go to Limbro and um, before we shot therapy sessions,
Speaker 1: I took Charlie aside and I said, UM, I really
Speaker 1: want to apologize to you for like lashing out, and UM,
Speaker 1: you know I didn't I didn't do any of the
Speaker 1: but you lied. I just said that was that was out.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to make you feel that way. Because
Speaker 1: he was really sad after and now we're like really cool. Um. No,
Speaker 1: next question, Okay, that was not rapid fire, but there
Speaker 1: was a lot of good. I guess I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: me talking fastest rapid fire, but that's not what that
Speaker 1: means at all. Okay, next question comes from THEO Scotty. Uh,
Speaker 1: if you can answer this, who wrote the line? F
Speaker 1: boy f by? That was a joint production. But I
Speaker 1: do believe Andrew was that you. I don't, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I believe, but I don't want. I
Speaker 1: think Ellen and Andrew both came up with it, uh individually,
Speaker 1: if I do remember, um, because I was texting with Ellen,
Speaker 1: the creator of the show, and I think Andrew and
Speaker 1: him had both put that on their list of possible
Speaker 1: things to say. And once I saw it twice, I
Speaker 1: was like, let's do that, but we we were almost
Speaker 1: gonna do. Uh what was it gonna be? Fun boy?
Speaker 1: I forget what the other boy? F boy funck off
Speaker 1: off it was gonna and let me just say on
Speaker 1: the elimination, I don't know if they aired it because
Speaker 1: I I zipped past Garrett's uh finale last night. I
Speaker 1: couldn't watch because it was so it was so uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: but I did. When I said goodbye to Garrett on
Speaker 1: the show, I go, F boy, fuck you, and I
Speaker 1: and everyone like I did take it again, but I
Speaker 1: did say that to his face, and um, that was
Speaker 1: really fine. One more question I remember before we get
Speaker 1: to c J Franco, who is going to be on
Speaker 1: the show very shortly. Okay, oh man, I have one question. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: wasn't o G Jared's so hot in turtlenecks? It was
Speaker 1: an island and that comes from a lynch. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: His outfits. Let me just say, I wanted to trash
Speaker 1: his outfits so badly and wrote so many jokes in
Speaker 1: my head and we we would talk about him and
Speaker 1: I'd go, like, what's he wearing tonight? But there were
Speaker 1: certain people that you couldn't make fun of because they
Speaker 1: don't have a sense of humor about themselves, and he
Speaker 1: is on top of that list. Like he just he
Speaker 1: was there taking it very seriously, even though he came
Speaker 1: in as an f boy, so like he was lying.
Speaker 1: But then in the end he was, you know, end
Speaker 1: up being a nice guy. But um, yeah, his outfits
Speaker 1: were ridiculous. He looked like a poet laureate most times.
Speaker 1: He never looked sweaty though in the sweaters and turtlenecks.
Speaker 1: I was shocked. It was like degrees to Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was wearing layers. He had scarves on. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: when you're when you're in a centric person and you're
Speaker 1: kind of like out there and you wear whatever you want.
Speaker 1: I love that. But there's something about wearing something different
Speaker 1: and knowing it's different to be cool. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Does that make sense? Like I've seen the
Speaker 1: centric people wear scarves in a hundred degrees And remember
Speaker 1: when someone he got accused of stealing someone's outfit's shoes
Speaker 1: and yeah, it was maybe divisions And he's like, you
Speaker 1: never even gave those vacubarred them and those are mine.
Speaker 1: He's like, these are not yours. Man, their mind, It's
Speaker 1: like wait what that was such a weird moment. There
Speaker 1: were so many moments. Let me just say the finale.
Speaker 1: This is the inside of the finale. You saw where
Speaker 1: Garrett came out and gave the and and and after
Speaker 1: he had confessed his love to Sarah and said I
Speaker 1: really want to be with you and I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I came in as an f boy, but I want
Speaker 1: to be with you. Then she chooses him. He then
Speaker 1: takes the hundred thousand dollars that he has the right
Speaker 1: to either split with Sarah or keep it all. He
Speaker 1: keeps it all and says, Sarah, I want to break
Speaker 1: up with you. That was so devastating to the whole situation.
Speaker 1: We stopped down for like an hour. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was crazy. So then it cuts to me being like Nikia,
Speaker 1: this is a rough night. That was an hour later.
Speaker 1: I mean we there were so many moments where it
Speaker 1: was so tense that everyone had to like go walk off.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of walk offs that didn't air,
Speaker 1: and a lot of um, you know, there was a
Speaker 1: whole drama with Kevin, which I want to get into
Speaker 1: with Garrett because he had a great Kevin line. But
Speaker 1: there's a whole drama between c J. CJ and Kevin
Speaker 1: knew each other. We're gonna get to see J in
Speaker 1: a second. But apparently Kevin has a helicopter company in Hawaii,
Speaker 1: and and c J was a model for the Like
Speaker 1: she's on his helicopters. I'm not even getting It's like
Speaker 1: her face is on the website and stuff. I bet
Speaker 1: he's taking it down by now, and he never paid
Speaker 1: her for it, so he she he shows up and
Speaker 1: she's like, I know that guy, well I know what
Speaker 1: he is. It was, but they didn't end up like
Speaker 1: using it and in the end I think they like
Speaker 1: patched it up. He like ven motor or whatever. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Uh, maybe we'll find out. C J Franco
Speaker 1: is up next. Our first guest on the show today
Speaker 1: is Uh, one of the three women on f Boy
Speaker 1: Island who was there looking for love found love. We
Speaker 1: are going to find out if she retained that love.
Speaker 1: But welcome to the show, Model h a comedian, um, actress,
Speaker 1: and reality star. C J Franco. Everyone, so good to
Speaker 1: see you again. We've only communicated through d M. But um,
Speaker 1: how are you girl. I'm doing really well. I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: I've been having a lot of fun. Um. I've been
Speaker 1: hanging out with Sarah a lot. She's in town visiting.
Speaker 1: I saw you guys posting together, so she's out there
Speaker 1: for kind of like the finale. She came out to
Speaker 1: just I mean, you guys have been waiting, I guess
Speaker 1: to talk about the show until the last three episodes
Speaker 1: came out because you couldn't really say much before then, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was hard. It was hard if we didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: It was very delicate, like tiptoeing around the topic conversation. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so let's just get into it, um we I have
Speaker 1: a couple of questions as someone who was also on
Speaker 1: the show. Was it hard for you to watch yourself?
Speaker 1: Or are you someone that doesn't have a problem with that.
Speaker 1: Was it hard for you to watch this show? I'm no,
Speaker 1: I'm shameless, So you like, couldn't put you flat screen?
Speaker 1: I couldn't actually watched them a projector. I made it
Speaker 1: as big as possible. You know what. My friend Leah
Speaker 1: Lamar actually posted from your She was at your viewing
Speaker 1: party for it, and I was like, where is this event?
Speaker 1: I thought it was like at the grove or something.
Speaker 1: You it was on your rooftop. You had a party
Speaker 1: for the premiere. That looks so much fun. Um, and
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry I couldn't attend even if I didn't
Speaker 1: get an invite, But um, now you know I wasn't
Speaker 1: in town, and uh, that's right. I was so c J.
Speaker 1: I want to know, Um, so did you were you
Speaker 1: able to see all the episodes before they came out,
Speaker 1: or were you watching them in real time with everyone else?
Speaker 1: Horror with everyone else? And what do you mean by horror? What?
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your number one moment that you go,
Speaker 1: oh god, either about what someone else had said about
Speaker 1: you behind your back, because that's the thing on these
Speaker 1: reality shows. All the contestants are talking about each other.
Speaker 1: Don't they know that someday it's gonna air and the
Speaker 1: people are going to see it. Well, you can't think
Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, you can't. Is there any moment that
Speaker 1: you really cringed at? I think there was. There were
Speaker 1: quite a few moments they cringed at. Um, yeah, you guys,
Speaker 1: You guys really threw us out there. Uh no, tell
Speaker 1: me what you mean by that? Yeah, who's you guys?
Speaker 1: I was gonna blame everyone. No, yeah, you're gonna take
Speaker 1: no accountability at all. God damn it. Noah, I blame Noah.
Speaker 1: She wasn't our ear the whole time. I feel Wait,
Speaker 1: so what yeah what cringeing part? Yeah? Like, what's a
Speaker 1: moment that you were just like, oh no, or you
Speaker 1: had to maybe DM someone and be like I heard that.
Speaker 1: I think the first big one m was the Man's
Speaker 1: plane for me because I have been put in a
Speaker 1: lot of time into Casey, and so the bombshell from
Speaker 1: the Man's plane, Um, yeah, that was that was I knew.
Speaker 1: I knew something would come out because all the f
Speaker 1: boys have a dirt like, that's why their f boys.
Speaker 1: So I knew something would come out. But I felt
Speaker 1: like I got to a point with Casey that I
Speaker 1: was like, you can tell me anything. I can deal
Speaker 1: with anything. I'm fer in l A. I'm used to
Speaker 1: all of you guys, but you have to tell me.
Speaker 1: And I think because we didn't have that open communication
Speaker 1: that you can see on my little face that I'm
Speaker 1: like very disappointed and it was embarrassing. It was an
Speaker 1: embarrassing moment because I felt like I put a lot
Speaker 1: of faith into somebody and then they made me look bad.
Speaker 1: But I'm on f boy Island, so I mean that
Speaker 1: seemed like a gamble. Yeah, you know what. I was
Speaker 1: a little disappointed how that Man's plain got edited, because
Speaker 1: I at the time was just so I mean, I
Speaker 1: talked to you about this separately. When it came out
Speaker 1: that Casey had referred to you as a glorified escort
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell he said, which I wonder if
Speaker 1: he even knew that was something that was like waiting
Speaker 1: to like if he if he even remembered saying it.
Speaker 1: Do you think it was something that he could have
Speaker 1: gotten ahead of, like it was on his mind, Like
Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't come out, or is it just
Speaker 1: like he just says so much stuff he couldn't keep track. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think that was on his radar because I
Speaker 1: don't think that was I think they repeated something that
Speaker 1: was said to him with a nasty tone. I believe
Speaker 1: that that happened. Yeah, I don't think that that was
Speaker 1: at the forefront of his mind because they think he
Speaker 1: was just gossiping while I was with Sean or like, sure,
Speaker 1: these guys get such fragile egos that they do lash
Speaker 1: out in ways and they say hurtful things, which we
Speaker 1: all do, but there's cameras on them, and there's other
Speaker 1: guys listening who are angry. But I just wanted to
Speaker 1: say the way you responded while we were at the
Speaker 1: Man's Wain was awesome because and I wanted them to
Speaker 1: keep it because to me, it was just every girl
Speaker 1: gets referred to as gets slut shamed at some point
Speaker 1: in her life. No matter what part of the spectrum
Speaker 1: him of slut, you get called right and c J
Speaker 1: just to me, that was watching you, not an embarrassing
Speaker 1: moment that that's your Like, I don't get to tell
Speaker 1: you what not to be embarrassed by. But for me,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I love the way
Speaker 1: you handled it because I don't think it translated as much.
Speaker 1: I thought it was awesome how it came out on
Speaker 1: TV and it was accurate. But you were just like, listen,
Speaker 1: I've been I've been called less and worse. It just
Speaker 1: it doesn't even like the way you were just like whatever.
Speaker 1: You didn't go like you were like what is that? Why?
Speaker 1: What does that mean? I am not. You didn't get defensive,
Speaker 1: you didn't have to go through a list of why
Speaker 1: that wasn't true, that you're you're getting paid or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was perfect, I said, I I said fun and
Speaker 1: I think we all know that. Yeah, if that was
Speaker 1: you were, I thought you instantly took in role. And
Speaker 1: then man, I was saying it last night when we
Speaker 1: were watching The Man's Plaint, I go, this was when Casey,
Speaker 1: like man. The Man's Plain really changed Casey's chances like that,
Speaker 1: and that changed everything. And then he got up and
Speaker 1: walked away and then came back. But I thought that
Speaker 1: you you saying if you would have just been honest
Speaker 1: with me, and like, if he would have said to
Speaker 1: you beforehand, when you had given him the license to listen,
Speaker 1: I may have said some nasty things about you when
Speaker 1: I was jealous when you were out with Sean and
Speaker 1: I was insecure and and said I said this thing
Speaker 1: about you and said it to you in private. Would
Speaker 1: you have been able to forgive him like I know
Speaker 1: you can't, Actually you would have yes, Yeah, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I have dealt with fotboys before, like, and it's not
Speaker 1: just it's not just f boys, it's people. People make mistakes.
Speaker 1: I make mistakes, and it's the only thing is taking
Speaker 1: accountability for the mistakes that you make. And I go
Speaker 1: so far out of my way to try not to
Speaker 1: hurt people that I care about, or to hurt anybody,
Speaker 1: and so to not give me that courtesy was what
Speaker 1: kind of shook me, and it kind of made everything
Speaker 1: else that got called out after that comment, a comment
Speaker 1: I've been called oh a million times, do not care?
Speaker 1: Does not affect me? I mean, and I'm really sick
Speaker 1: of men trying to slat shame women to control them,
Speaker 1: to make them feel smaller. That's not a cute. Look,
Speaker 1: it's not fun. I'm actually bored of it. But the
Speaker 1: comments that followed that were like, he has a girlfriend
Speaker 1: back home, he's gonna use the money to live with Garrett,
Speaker 1: and you know, they're listening off these things, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I believe that. I believe that. Yes, I
Speaker 1: believe that. And I'm like, and the only reason I
Speaker 1: have the the mindset to believe those things is because
Speaker 1: you didn't get ahead of the other thing, right, and
Speaker 1: you were willing to forgive him for all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and because you knew he really did care about you
Speaker 1: a lot, as we saw, and he was going to
Speaker 1: actually split the money with you, as we also found out.
Speaker 1: Now I want to know, Um, are you still with
Speaker 1: New Jared? Physically we are not together right Um? Spiritually, digitally,
Speaker 1: visually we are together. It's together, we are together together,
Speaker 1: but it's like he lives in Miami and he works,
Speaker 1: he works a lot, And so I think what we've
Speaker 1: been trying to do is we've been trying to try
Speaker 1: to have a long distance relationship because the truth is
Speaker 1: he is a really great man. He is a really
Speaker 1: good guy. And the there was a comment that was
Speaker 1: made which I was seeing for the first time in
Speaker 1: the finale, where he did not look like such a
Speaker 1: great sweet guy. And wait, what what comments that dic taste?
Speaker 1: No one needs to know the flavor of any day?
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I texted. I texted one of the producers
Speaker 1: and I go, how does my dick taste? I go,
Speaker 1: how could he? Because for those of you who don't know, uh,
Speaker 1: there was she had a mega date with Jared where
Speaker 1: they spent the night together, and then the next night
Speaker 1: she had a date with Casey. And then Casey comes
Speaker 1: back to the house, sees Jared and talks about having
Speaker 1: a lot of cardio that morning, which I really thought.
Speaker 1: I was like, he got up and went for a run.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. I wonder where he went. Like I
Speaker 1: was thinking about the house and like I wonder where
Speaker 1: he went. I totally went over my head. And then
Speaker 1: Jared's like, I got cardio too, Yeah, man, how's my dictate?
Speaker 1: Like it was just so not nice guy. Nice guy.
Speaker 1: Mom called me and was like, I don't think I
Speaker 1: don't think he's a nice guy. I'm not convinced, Mom,
Speaker 1: How do we know he's a nice guy. That's my
Speaker 1: thing is like we're just taking these guys word for it.
Speaker 1: You know, when the guys would admit that they were
Speaker 1: an F boy or you know, come out as an
Speaker 1: F boy, they would cut the casting footage of being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I lied to women. I don't care. I've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of women. I gotta do what I gotta do.
Speaker 1: But the nice guys when they came out, there wasn't
Speaker 1: like footage of them, you know, volunteering or you know,
Speaker 1: the cuddling kitten. I saw Jerry just asking random people
Speaker 1: his dictates, and I'm like, man, that is a good man.
Speaker 1: It's so nice. You're doing that at a carnival. You're
Speaker 1: such a good guy, you know what he I think
Speaker 1: he really wanted to know. Maybe he's never take it
Speaker 1: introduct that we're going to come out with. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I know he sells tea. He was he was d
Speaker 1: having me this morning. He wants to send me to
Speaker 1: and he was like, I have it for immunity, for
Speaker 1: good clean skin, for mental health, for a better tasting dick.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I think it all comes back to
Speaker 1: that he Um, yeah, I can't believe he was a
Speaker 1: nice guy because he just came on so strong when
Speaker 1: he first walked in, and then you chose him. I
Speaker 1: had to say goodbye to Casey. Have you seen Jared
Speaker 1: new Jared since? Have you guys been in the same
Speaker 1: place since? Yeah? Yeah, okay, yeah, of course. So what's
Speaker 1: hotter though, Like an F boy surprisingly being good or
Speaker 1: a good guy being bad? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like F boy been good? Yeah? Nah? Really no, Like
Speaker 1: when a nice guy is seemingly nice guy has edged
Speaker 1: any guy can perform for long enough that he's a
Speaker 1: nice guy. Yeah, okay, I've stepped in that dick sand before.
Speaker 1: Now is there any regret you have from the show
Speaker 1: watching it back, thinking I wish I would have done
Speaker 1: that differently, or um, you know, like, is there is
Speaker 1: there anything that you would do different? I know, I'm
Speaker 1: so glad just said that. I'm so dared actyl. What
Speaker 1: a mean thing we're looking at watching that, we were
Speaker 1: like it was a little too obvious. You got to
Speaker 1: choose a better what did to be a little more
Speaker 1: subtle with it? Of like, hey, what's your favorite dinosaur?
Speaker 1: Mine is a pterodactyl, Like you were just like having Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was hilarious. You were so funny
Speaker 1: on the show. I want to know how they found
Speaker 1: you and how we hadn't seen you on a reality
Speaker 1: show before because you were just reality gold. You're just
Speaker 1: gorgeous to watch your funny, You're you know yourself. How
Speaker 1: did this come about for you? My therapist sent it
Speaker 1: to me, No way, I was making too much progress
Speaker 1: and you know she wants to keep you around and
Speaker 1: hang on a second. So so did they just I'm guessing, uh,
Speaker 1: because I asked a bunch of people this, and I
Speaker 1: think producers just like go through Instagram and find people
Speaker 1: that that you know, look like Garrett Garrett's Instagram. They
Speaker 1: must have just been like, it looks like every photo
Speaker 1: looks like a stock photo you would like buy at
Speaker 1: Walmart of a hot man that's already in a frame, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would look good on my dresser. I won't ever
Speaker 1: switch it, but c J, I want to know, aside
Speaker 1: from the dictase line, when you were watching it back,
Speaker 1: were there any moments to you where you go, oh, no,
Speaker 1: like of of of things you saw on the show
Speaker 1: when you were watching it that you didn't know and
Speaker 1: that you heard and we're like that bummed me out,
Speaker 1: or like had to student text to someone and be
Speaker 1: like anything, I'm tough, I'm I know you are you
Speaker 1: like how you were portrayed and I edited? Do you
Speaker 1: like how you came across? I mean, I probably shouldn't
Speaker 1: say this, but I love how I came across. H Honestly,
Speaker 1: all of all of my friends were on this text
Speaker 1: chain about it and they're just like, we love c J.
Speaker 1: Want her to we want to be friends with her.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you're getting a lot of UM
Speaker 1: d M s from people just saying the same thing
Speaker 1: over and I'm like, I'm actually responding to a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to send a lot of video messages back
Speaker 1: and it's my d ms are off the hook. It's
Speaker 1: not like I'm getting as many d ms as O
Speaker 1: G Jared, But like I'm getting a lot of like
Speaker 1: from women and um, a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: gay guys and a lot of people that feel like
Speaker 1: they've navigated relationships in the way that was unfavorable for them,
Speaker 1: and the saying that they haven't seen a woman take
Speaker 1: charge ant reality TV and not tolerate any vs and
Speaker 1: that we all kind of like let things go and
Speaker 1: let things slide. And then you didn't let anything slide.
Speaker 1: You really didn't when you didn't hug or when that
Speaker 1: first time that you didn't hug Casey and left him
Speaker 1: hanging and he just goes brutal and he sits down.
Speaker 1: I felt that was like, I need to do that more.
Speaker 1: He was early on and I forget what he had.
Speaker 1: Oh he had it was about Garrett because they were
Speaker 1: buddies and you were going to confront him about his
Speaker 1: relationship with Garrett, which then turned into a whole thing.
Speaker 1: But at first he walked over and you're just like, no, no,
Speaker 1: and he walked over. He goes, come on, and he
Speaker 1: goes in for a hug and he goes not now, okay,
Speaker 1: brutal and he just said it to himself. And it's
Speaker 1: just this moment. And I'm someone who always just wants
Speaker 1: to give guys what they want and just in general,
Speaker 1: people what they want, and so I just I I
Speaker 1: liked that moment that you were willing to leave him
Speaker 1: hanging there, and it's like that it's so public, but like,
Speaker 1: but that's how I am. It's like you want to
Speaker 1: set like good boundaries and you have to teach people
Speaker 1: how to treat you. And you can't expect me to
Speaker 1: be on your team if you're not on my team,
Speaker 1: you know. And I feel like I did get some
Speaker 1: comments um for the middle three episodes saying that, oh
Speaker 1: you his friend. Oh, like that's really mean, and you
Speaker 1: know what, like, it's not me And I thin that people,
Speaker 1: if you want to be in a relationship, you need
Speaker 1: to prioritize your partner. And I think I I value
Speaker 1: people with character and integrity so highly that I would
Speaker 1: never say, like, hey, this is a great person. I
Speaker 1: would never put my name on someone else who I
Speaker 1: didn't truly think was a good person or had good intentions.
Speaker 1: And I think a big problem for me it was
Speaker 1: that Casey kept saying that, you know, Garrett is a
Speaker 1: good guy, and I'm like, you can say Garrett has
Speaker 1: a good dick, you could say he has a personality,
Speaker 1: but you can't really say he's a good guy. And
Speaker 1: in the context of this show, right, so you wouldn't
Speaker 1: maybe have had an issue with him saying listen, he's
Speaker 1: my friend because we have fun throwing the ball together
Speaker 1: and laughing together, and he makes me laugh when he
Speaker 1: does impressions of people and says stupid things, but I
Speaker 1: don't think he's actually I know he doesn't have integrity,
Speaker 1: but he's still my friend. Would that have been okay?
Speaker 1: Or do I have friends? I have a million friends
Speaker 1: that are just garrets. They're just garrets, and it's fine,
Speaker 1: it's fine with me, But it's you know what you
Speaker 1: can expect from that person, right, because it doesn't feel honest.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel honest when you're like, I know he's
Speaker 1: a good guy, he's a great guy. You just don't
Speaker 1: know Garrett. I think case he's just too young to
Speaker 1: know the difference between like you can say you're friends
Speaker 1: with someone and still say they're not a great person. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have a plenty of piece of ship friends. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I actually felt the same way that maybe people
Speaker 1: felt that we're dem ng you of of saying, well,
Speaker 1: you can't tell him who to be friends with. But
Speaker 1: it's now I understand it. I did. I thought, you
Speaker 1: just go, no, you can't be friends with him no
Speaker 1: matter what, because of how I feel about him. But
Speaker 1: all you wanted was him to acknowledge that Garrett's uh,
Speaker 1: not a sincere honest person. Have to campaign for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have to hand out. Yeah, yeah, we're like,
Speaker 1: I mean, going door to door, you know, I know
Speaker 1: it was Garrett Murowski. Yeah, I thought the plane with
Speaker 1: the sign that was a little much, a little much
Speaker 1: where he shouldn't have spent his hundred grand on that. Um,
Speaker 1: you are also a vegan, and I wanted to say
Speaker 1: there was a brilliant moment that got cut from the
Speaker 1: show where she eliminates divis and it was I think
Speaker 1: it was Davidge when when you said the vegan thing,
Speaker 1: was that right? It was? It was poor Peter. It
Speaker 1: was Peter, poor beautiful. Your reading line was great too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I read it for she mean, CJ. Was so funny.
Speaker 1: There would be time for a little while. You lost
Speaker 1: your voice every but you did a great line. Do
Speaker 1: you remember the vegan line? C J? Um? What was
Speaker 1: the vegan line? Um? While I'm not one to push
Speaker 1: my ideas on other people, I do expect them to
Speaker 1: respect my the things that are important to me. When
Speaker 1: I said I was vegan, your reaction was rude, and
Speaker 1: for that reason, I don't think we're compatible. There was
Speaker 1: something about like cruelty to animals, like you know, all
Speaker 1: animals have the have the thought to avoid pain and suffering,
Speaker 1: and so do I. And for that I thought it
Speaker 1: was just so great. It was that was so good
Speaker 1: that I know I was actually flexing on this table,
Speaker 1: um c J. I loved that because that is that,
Speaker 1: like people always roll their eyes about when you say
Speaker 1: you're vegan and not everyone, but it's just it's kind
Speaker 1: of a a kid thing people do have, like vegan.
Speaker 1: They just love to make fun of you. But the
Speaker 1: point you made about the suffering and pain, like that's
Speaker 1: what it boils down to. I don't honestly don't even
Speaker 1: care killing animals the best part of its life when
Speaker 1: when they're in these like when people are like talking
Speaker 1: about your vegan because you don't like they kill animals, Like, go, no,
Speaker 1: they're actually I like that they kill because they put
Speaker 1: them out of their goddamn misery. It's the pain and
Speaker 1: suffering that leads up to that, honestly, Like every animal
Speaker 1: has to die at some point, but like it's just
Speaker 1: the brutal suffering that they that they go through. It's yea,
Speaker 1: the facilities they live in, they're sick constantly, they're taking
Speaker 1: they take their children, they killed it the little male
Speaker 1: chickens that are the cute little baby chickens. There's so cute.
Speaker 1: I mean, is there anything cuter? It's like and and
Speaker 1: just the hypocrisy of people with their dogs and being
Speaker 1: like I love animals and then eating meat. I just
Speaker 1: can't and people can't handle it. They can't. If if
Speaker 1: everyone was forced to watch factory farm footage, I think
Speaker 1: the world would be a different place. But they're not.
Speaker 1: So just people. I don't understand that anyone can say
Speaker 1: they're an EmPATH and then not be vegan. I don't
Speaker 1: know how anybody had to say that. I agree, I
Speaker 1: completely agree. Before you go, I wanted to say the
Speaker 1: thing about I wanted to ask you about losing your
Speaker 1: voice honestly, because I lose my voice a lot. What
Speaker 1: do you do for it? Okay? Because I don't know,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, what do you do like
Speaker 1: I'm drinking like lukewarm coffee. I drink like throatcoat tea,
Speaker 1: which probably tastes like Jared's New Jared's dick. It's like
Speaker 1: it's it's um. I just read recently had to quit
Speaker 1: smoking weed, like I just have to stop inhaling things.
Speaker 1: Have you had these little cannabis drinks, these little cans. No,
Speaker 1: c J, don't get me started on that. Hold. Oh
Speaker 1: god damn it. She's going to find a way for
Speaker 1: me to get it in my system. Andrew's like, please don't.
Speaker 1: She's like, what you do is you pour out the
Speaker 1: drink and you smoke out of the can. The best
Speaker 1: things in the world. What is it? It's a wonder
Speaker 1: or there's can And it's like, because I can't smoke
Speaker 1: anything with my voice like this. Yeah, and so I've
Speaker 1: switched to these and it's like super light. It's like
Speaker 1: having one little toke. Not that I'm promoting cannabis at all. Yeah, no, no, no, okay,
Speaker 1: if I was, I'm telling you these little I'll guess
Speaker 1: some of these drinks, that's what I'll look into it,
Speaker 1: c J. You can follow c J Franco, who is
Speaker 1: hilarious and I honestly some of your captions, I'm just like, God,
Speaker 1: she's brilliant. How did she think of this? She's just
Speaker 1: really funny and such. No, she's this bitch does not
Speaker 1: need a write. Most people do this one doesn't. Um.
Speaker 1: Are you still doing stand up? By the way, c J? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not for forty minutes like Netflix special.
Speaker 1: But I love I love stand up. I don't know
Speaker 1: how good I am, but I am doing a show
Speaker 1: and I think two weeks at the Comedy Chateau, at
Speaker 1: the Comedy What the comedy Shatau Chateau? Okay, look for that.
Speaker 1: Follow c J Franco on Instagram at It's c J Franco,
Speaker 1: c J. Um Wait, Noah, is there any burning question
Speaker 1: you have as a fan of F boy before we
Speaker 1: let c J go? Because I know probably she's on
Speaker 1: the edge of her seat. Our producer, Noah loves you
Speaker 1: an a show you. I was actually curious about your outfits,
Speaker 1: if you styled yourself, if those are your clothes, you
Speaker 1: just oh man, you killed it, thanks so much. Um Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to pack like four suitcases. Most of my
Speaker 1: things were from my friend, um a house of pink lemonade,
Speaker 1: and we created actually a collection together of like swim
Speaker 1: and resort where I didn't know that you did have
Speaker 1: fantastic style and I just love the idea of her
Speaker 1: swim where just more it's like we stayed at Oh yeah, well,
Speaker 1: no one knows that. I didn't think that was going
Speaker 1: to get alloud. I mean out there c JS. CJ's
Speaker 1: outfits were incredible, and you know what, my friend recently
Speaker 1: wrote me and said that his young daughter was watching
Speaker 1: the show, like ten year old daughter, and was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I go, that's he goes, We you know,
Speaker 1: we have we can't tell other parents. We gotta keep
Speaker 1: this like secret because it's just like we shouldn't let
Speaker 1: our ten year old watches show. And I go, actually,
Speaker 1: I think it's really good for her to watch the
Speaker 1: show and it's and I said especially, He said, you know,
Speaker 1: she's gonna have questions about the outfits, and I said,
Speaker 1: let me just say that c j's outfits to me
Speaker 1: were the first time I saw someone dress in a
Speaker 1: way that I'm dying to dress. But I'm so scared
Speaker 1: that men are going to discount me and say that
Speaker 1: I'm dressed slutty or women are gonna hate me because
Speaker 1: I'm showing off my body and how thirsty is that?
Speaker 1: Because the first time I saw someone wear it, and like,
Speaker 1: I felt like you were like Glorious steinhum in a
Speaker 1: like you know, like it felt like you Ruth Bader
Speaker 1: Ginsburg could have worn some of the stuff you wear
Speaker 1: and it was you had this air of like, I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not wearing this for anyone else, And I
Speaker 1: wrote him this entire thing of it's important for your daughter,
Speaker 1: your ten year old daughter, to see c J's outfits
Speaker 1: and to know that her body is not someone else's
Speaker 1: uh to judge and that she can wear whatever she wants.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why it took me so long
Speaker 1: to understand that, But did you take a while to
Speaker 1: get to that with your own like sexuality and your
Speaker 1: body because you're a stunning woman who has probably been
Speaker 1: beautiful most of her life. Was this was this ever
Speaker 1: something that you were worried what other people thought about?
Speaker 1: Because I I just really struggle with it. No, other
Speaker 1: people can't don't bother me, Like at whatever someone else thinks,
Speaker 1: that's on them, and that's a reflection of how they
Speaker 1: feel about themselves. So none of that, None of that
Speaker 1: affects me. I don't let what other people's insecurities are
Speaker 1: be projected on me. And even if it is projected
Speaker 1: on you, it's up to you whether or not you
Speaker 1: decide to take those feelings on. You don't have so
Speaker 1: that anyone else's opinions of anything affect you. And starts
Speaker 1: with like, I'm gonna wear whatever I want to wear.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do whatever I want to do because I'm
Speaker 1: so confident in myself and I'm proud of myself and
Speaker 1: I like who I am. I like way I treat people,
Speaker 1: and if someone decides to treat me differently, that is
Speaker 1: totally a them situation. And I hope that they grow
Speaker 1: and get better and get the confidence. You know, uh
Speaker 1: said like a true nice girl, And um, and I
Speaker 1: just you're very secure, and I think it was just
Speaker 1: a great example for not only me and the other
Speaker 1: women on the show. I mean, you all had a
Speaker 1: security about yourself and self esteem that I lacked at
Speaker 1: your age. But um, I just and that's what I
Speaker 1: keep hearing over and over is how great the women
Speaker 1: were on this show and how you guys weren't pitted
Speaker 1: against each other, and how that's so refreshing. So thanks
Speaker 1: for leading the charge with that, because you were truly
Speaker 1: someone on the show that always just seems so comfortable.
Speaker 1: I even said it the first day. I was so
Speaker 1: nervous and the first elimination and c J every time
Speaker 1: every elimination really because they were so tense and the
Speaker 1: girls would walk out I'd go c J, Sarah Nikia
Speaker 1: and they walk out, and c J, you just always
Speaker 1: had this like confidence in this like I'm just here
Speaker 1: having fun, like I don't know it, you just you. Really.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss you for second season and I hope
Speaker 1: we find a way to to sneak you back in
Speaker 1: because you really made me feel a lot, like very comfortable,
Speaker 1: and I just loved having a vegan sister on set
Speaker 1: and and and just trying to sneak in all of
Speaker 1: those lines you knew they'd cut around because they really
Speaker 1: they really did. They did well. We got them in today.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, c J. H. We will be
Speaker 1: in touch. You were a great gust and I hope
Speaker 1: to see you on the show again. And please look
Speaker 1: at my road dates. If you were ever in any
Speaker 1: of the cities I am in, I would love for
Speaker 1: you to come be on stage with me. You're doing
Speaker 1: this circular stage this week now, and I was supposed
Speaker 1: to do that, but I'm not. I'm not in town.
Speaker 1: I canceled my gig, but I have like a bunch
Speaker 1: of theaters that I'm doing, So if you ever want
Speaker 1: to drop by, you have an open invite, as do
Speaker 1: uh the other girls. So so let's Sarah know too,
Speaker 1: and tell Sarah hello and we will be in touch
Speaker 1: with her shortly as well. All right, bye girl, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. All right, let's talk to Josh bring
Speaker 1: I'm on nice guy there he is, Hi, Josh, do
Speaker 1: you remember Andrew? It's good to see. Where are you
Speaker 1: right now, Josh? And I'm at my home in in
Speaker 1: in Chicago right now. All right, you just got back
Speaker 1: from l A right still we're still were coming that
Speaker 1: is for short. Oh my god, I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you about it because you went to l A
Speaker 1: for like the premier party where all the a lot
Speaker 1: of f boys and nice guys got together. Who was
Speaker 1: all there? We get along from time to time. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: it was honestly like the whole the whole cast of characters.
Speaker 1: I mean, you had Um, Colin, Greg Mark, Um. I
Speaker 1: think it was Israel because it was. It was Division
Speaker 1: and Nando's birthdays. Yeah. So they gave us an opportunity
Speaker 1: to like come together and really be able to like
Speaker 1: because a lot of times that was that. That That was
Speaker 1: the first time we've been back as a collective group
Speaker 1: since the show adjourned back in when we stopped them
Speaker 1: in April. Yeah, now who have you who did you
Speaker 1: have the best friendship with? Uh? You know, after the show,
Speaker 1: like who do you who do you think you're gonna
Speaker 1: be lifelong friends with? If anyone? So I think, like
Speaker 1: so definitely like Greg Gregor's that's my that's my dog,
Speaker 1: Damie U. Super cool with Peter Park as well, and
Speaker 1: Garrett Garrett as well. I know he's you know, publican
Speaker 1: to me number one. But we were all him, Greg
Speaker 1: and myself. You know, we all room together, so so
Speaker 1: we were okay, we had like we had a relationship
Speaker 1: while we're on the show. What was it like rooming
Speaker 1: with those guys? You guys were all at the cottages
Speaker 1: um together and you never you know, you didn't say
Speaker 1: goodbye to you until the last episode, So you were
Speaker 1: never at the good Guy Grotto or the castle, So
Speaker 1: you were always in those colleges. What was it like
Speaker 1: going to bed at night in those bunk beds with
Speaker 1: like what happened throughout the day? Yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know's we'll start with physical comfort and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: six to um to twenty and I you know, they
Speaker 1: they were hanging just a little bit. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it was it was a lot of it was not
Speaker 1: the most comfortable set up, but I think that was
Speaker 1: like that was part of It's definitely an exercise and
Speaker 1: mental fortitude. Um. But I mean with as far as
Speaker 1: like Garrett and Gregg, there were so many guys on
Speaker 1: there that we're backstabbing and that we're talking about each
Speaker 1: other and we're snitching on each other and just had
Speaker 1: no respect for the game at all, Like I've so
Speaker 1: it was nice to be in a in a situation
Speaker 1: where you know, guys could operate with a with a
Speaker 1: certain code and and even even though Garrett and I
Speaker 1: were going off the same girl like, we were still
Speaker 1: able to like, you know, at least be gentleman about it.
Speaker 1: That's what I was shocked by. I was thinking about
Speaker 1: it today about Garrett and I go, gosh, Garrett to
Speaker 1: me didn't seem to have many enemies on the show itself,
Speaker 1: aside from like it was like Garrett against like public opinion,
Speaker 1: but it was never and I was thinking, wait, Josh
Speaker 1: and him never seemed to not get along, and they
Speaker 1: were the ones that were in the end on both
Speaker 1: sides of Sarah at the Man's plane. And it's like, so,
Speaker 1: how did you. Was that intentional for you to not
Speaker 1: put yourself against anyone and to not have some drama
Speaker 1: that you know you didn't need to have. Did you
Speaker 1: try to avoid I mean, you had a little tiff
Speaker 1: with Chris, but that felt like more his deal than yours. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Nikki, one thing about me is
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay out the way. You know, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't try to start anything with anybody necessarily, but
Speaker 1: I'm also not the one that anybody won't smoke with.
Speaker 1: So if somebody brings me, I'm very happy to settle.
Speaker 1: And that was what happened with Chris, where I was
Speaker 1: just like, look, man, I've been I've been cool with everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, Like, I haven't had any struggles with anybody.
Speaker 1: I haven't talked bad about anybody. But he brought the
Speaker 1: drama to me, and so I was ready to you know,
Speaker 1: I was ready to put my hands on Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was so no it was gonna be I was
Speaker 1: scared for him. That was one of my most uncomfortable moments,
Speaker 1: but like a good moment because it happened during ending shank,
Speaker 1: which Josh you were one of the first ones to
Speaker 1: grab onto my pronunciation of douche tank and make me
Speaker 1: feel safe, and yeah, you were like you were really
Speaker 1: in from the get go. It was during Douche Tank
Speaker 1: Chris is sitting there with a bucket over his head
Speaker 1: about to get water poured on him, and you know,
Speaker 1: says this apology to you and says, uh, you know
Speaker 1: because he said something about you saying it was a
Speaker 1: bitch move, which he was just you know, talking off
Speaker 1: the top of his head, is what he said. And
Speaker 1: he goes, where where I come from? We just talked
Speaker 1: that way? And what was your response? I was like,
Speaker 1: where I'm from, people get knocked stuff helping him, like
Speaker 1: I have people from New York. I'm certain that they were.
Speaker 1: I mean there were people from New York on the show,
Speaker 1: like and we was like, no, that's not that's not
Speaker 1: how that's like coma say needs Italian and to get
Speaker 1: away with it. No, it's just a New York thing
Speaker 1: to call you a little bit York. I know. Um
Speaker 1: was Chris at the reunion that you guys all have
Speaker 1: We squashed it in in person. I'm not one that
Speaker 1: necessarily holds on the grudges, but I also believe what
Speaker 1: people say when people are mad, they say what they mean,
Speaker 1: they've had they've had that ship like bubbling up there,
Speaker 1: they get off and they just had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: do so. So that's why I was just like, you know,
Speaker 1: at that apology, like, I don't really I don't really
Speaker 1: care about that eventually accepted it. You accepted his apology.
Speaker 1: I just kind of let it left it at that.
Speaker 1: Why why that? That kind of bummed me out, honestly, Josh,
Speaker 1: because you are a nice guy and you just seem
Speaker 1: like level headed and and and take people at their word.
Speaker 1: Did you just not feel like his apology was sincere
Speaker 1: because I felt it wasn't. Then when you said no,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm good. I don't want to like accept what
Speaker 1: what was that for you? Like? Why for me? For me,
Speaker 1: I think there were some guys who were, you know,
Speaker 1: and who could have been like playing the game and
Speaker 1: who have been playing it up for for cameras and everything.
Speaker 1: I'm a pretty authentic due, you know. I think that
Speaker 1: the way that I've lived my life, you know, it
Speaker 1: has a certain appeal to it. But I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: me at the end of the day and like it.
Speaker 1: So cameras are not and I said this. I knew
Speaker 1: it was gonna get cut, but I told him was
Speaker 1: like this cameras an't gonna say it, bro, Like it's not,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna I don't care about any of this,
Speaker 1: Like this is it's nothing that you dispected me on
Speaker 1: like a man and man low. So he came to
Speaker 1: me off camera and was basically saying, like wanting to apologize,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, Bro, the the the apology
Speaker 1: needs to be as loud as the disrespect was, Like
Speaker 1: you call me a bitch on national TV, like you're
Speaker 1: gonna apologize? Okay? That was sense. Yeah, so that was
Speaker 1: really where it came from. All Right, that makes that
Speaker 1: actually makes sense to me. Um. I wanted to also
Speaker 1: ask you about you don't seem like someone who would
Speaker 1: end up on a reality show. You seem like someone
Speaker 1: who would probably go that's not for me, And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people listening to our show would
Speaker 1: say the same thing about themselves. I would never go
Speaker 1: on a show like that. I speak to those people,
Speaker 1: what what what made you do this? And would you
Speaker 1: do it again? Knowing what you know? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: you know I'm somebody who's who's open to experience. So
Speaker 1: you know, I've traveled a lot of I tried to
Speaker 1: challenge myself to get out of my comfort zone and
Speaker 1: so when this opportunity came up, you know, this is
Speaker 1: the first time that I've been reached out to by
Speaker 1: Are You Not? Reality TV franchise and so but I
Speaker 1: had this was the most intriguing opportunity and I feel
Speaker 1: like I was in like the right place in my
Speaker 1: life to be able to take advantage of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was. It was cool, man. I definitely thought
Speaker 1: it was Firefest when I signed up, not the food.
Speaker 1: The code was similar then, uh, you know when the
Speaker 1: beds were better at fire Passive actually the entire body. Um.
Speaker 1: But when I got there and I said this on it,
Speaker 1: Sorry for the shameless floy but I said, this is
Speaker 1: my spokes. When I was on on my back podcast
Speaker 1: to travel Guys, I was Travel Guides g U y
Speaker 1: d e S is Josh's podcast about your travels various
Speaker 1: different different destinations, you know, different travel hacks had to
Speaker 1: travel for cheap, you know, and just really expanding your horizons.
Speaker 1: Were like having fun at the same time. Um, but
Speaker 1: I was talking about the show on there, and I
Speaker 1: was saying we showed up, it's just a meat market.
Speaker 1: Like it's just like it's almost as if people were
Speaker 1: cast to look exactly the same, like with you know,
Speaker 1: with with some with some degree of diversity in there.
Speaker 1: So I think to answer your question, like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would definitely do it again. Like it was cool. We
Speaker 1: developed a lot of like it's a unique experience, Like
Speaker 1: it's definitely a mind funk, Like they put you in
Speaker 1: like this this environment, this ecosystem where things are being
Speaker 1: controlled and you're just like you know, upon in it,
Speaker 1: but you know, you create lifelong friendships and got a
Speaker 1: got an experience that most people don't get to have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't. Uh, well, no one besides
Speaker 1: besides us who were there know this. But when when
Speaker 1: Greg was eliminated, people were sobbing, like you guys were
Speaker 1: all a wreck everyone on the show, and they kind
Speaker 1: of cut around it. But that was what I was
Speaker 1: really moved by. Was not just like the Casey and
Speaker 1: Garrett bromance that we saw, but there were a lot
Speaker 1: of really deep friendships that formed on the show between
Speaker 1: the guys being in such close quarters, not having your phones,
Speaker 1: not being able to talk to you in quarantine where
Speaker 1: you guys were all in your individual rooms, but your
Speaker 1: balconies kind of connected and that's the only place you
Speaker 1: could go. And so you all like, uh, developed a
Speaker 1: friendship kind of before during quarantine did you get to
Speaker 1: know each other? So I think other guys did as well.
Speaker 1: I kind of guess through it in the whole room
Speaker 1: selections that I was up in the corner, but I
Speaker 1: was next to Colin and um and new Jared was
Speaker 1: down on the was down there. So I mean, but
Speaker 1: to your point, like, yeah, it was all good, like
Speaker 1: we were developing friendships. I mean we're, you know, playing
Speaker 1: cash and not supposed to. Like you're, you know, you're
Speaker 1: doing whatever you can to have some type of human
Speaker 1: interaction because you're in a you know, ten by Ten's
Speaker 1: face for two and a half weeks, like you're just
Speaker 1: trying not to go crazy. At the end of it.
Speaker 1: I can't believe you, guys, because I brought Andrew with
Speaker 1: me because I knew that it was going to be
Speaker 1: really I couldn't have done it alone, and especially with
Speaker 1: not knowing what you were about to get involved in,
Speaker 1: because you guys didn't really know what the show was
Speaker 1: going to be. I remember when those three girls came out,
Speaker 1: you guys were like, that's it. Like there was a
Speaker 1: lot of I think a lot of you thought it
Speaker 1: was gonna be like just as much of a meat
Speaker 1: market as you had seen on your end of things
Speaker 1: when you were in quarantine. Seeing all these guys, are like,
Speaker 1: there must be an equal amount of girls. What would
Speaker 1: you say to someone about to go on a reality
Speaker 1: show that maybe you wouldn't have known going in a
Speaker 1: piece of advice. So I do want to say I
Speaker 1: was I was prepared for either scenario because in the
Speaker 1: worst of scenarios, I thought it was fifty guys and
Speaker 1: five girls. I was like, because I was trying to
Speaker 1: be When we came in, I was like, oh, there
Speaker 1: was another bus with all these people that came in.
Speaker 1: I was like, fifty dudes on here. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that those dudes were cast as well, but our were
Speaker 1: through as well. Um, there were some boys on the
Speaker 1: crew took um. I think for for folks that are
Speaker 1: going thinking about going onto a reality show, I would just, honestly,
Speaker 1: I think the best piece of advice is just to
Speaker 1: like be open to the experience, Like you give yourself
Speaker 1: to the experience and like, um, the people who fought it.
Speaker 1: I think we're people who you know, who didn't make
Speaker 1: it far or who didn't make it on the show.
Speaker 1: And I think you know, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: by that, and so um, but I think I don't
Speaker 1: there were some other cast members that did that. We
Speaker 1: don't know anything about oh right, right, right, Well, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to happen on the island.
Speaker 1: Someone might test positive for like you don't know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, someone might get sick, and they had, you know,
Speaker 1: replacements just in case that happened, and and and some
Speaker 1: people actually had to be replaced that we're supposed to
Speaker 1: be main cast members because um, they just they got
Speaker 1: too big for their bridges too early, and we're too demanding.
Speaker 1: And it's like you got to understand, like you're in
Speaker 1: for a ride, and you signed up for not knowing
Speaker 1: where this is gonna go, and you have to trust
Speaker 1: and and just I think you really have to know
Speaker 1: yourself to do a reality show and be okay with
Speaker 1: the worst sides of yourself coming out, because they will
Speaker 1: come out. Like Josh, did you find watching back on
Speaker 1: the show, uh, that you saw a side of yourself
Speaker 1: that you go, I would wish I would have like
Speaker 1: held that in. Was there any moment that made you go, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't know I talked like that or looked like
Speaker 1: that or said that, or were you pretty like, oh,
Speaker 1: this this is me? It was kind of the kind
Speaker 1: of the opposite. I think the I think the biggest
Speaker 1: thing for me, like it just speaking candidly, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of like my personality, like the the be
Speaker 1: fun and exciting and you know that, like the daring
Speaker 1: part of my my personality was kind of like cut out,
Speaker 1: which I understood from like a from a storyline perspective
Speaker 1: and kind of like you know what what the overall
Speaker 1: narrative was. But I think that anybody who has already
Speaker 1: been following me on on socials or where I know
Speaker 1: in real life, like they know they're like I've gotten
Speaker 1: several messages They're like, well, when are they gonna show there?
Speaker 1: Like what is this? And so I was like, I
Speaker 1: I understand that, um, but I think to your point,
Speaker 1: like with the with the Piece of Advice, I think
Speaker 1: like a lot of guys came on there and they
Speaker 1: knew who they were going to be on the show,
Speaker 1: and when I showed up. I was just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see the environment and then I will adapt
Speaker 1: to their When I saw the three girls, it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I talked to Sarah, talked to the kids out to
Speaker 1: c J, like gotta feel for how they were. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm somebody who can who can flex to whatever situation.
Speaker 1: I mean, were you really uh? Are you? Uh? Let's
Speaker 1: talk about Sarah for a second, because you did just
Speaker 1: post on your Instagram story a selfie of you and Sarah.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it was in l a. Um you just
Speaker 1: saw her? What what's going on there? Um? I mean
Speaker 1: that was honestly the first time we had talked on
Speaker 1: the phone and and whatnot, like since the show had aired. Um,
Speaker 1: but that was talked before then. Yeah, we had we
Speaker 1: had talked before then. Okay, okay, this is the first
Speaker 1: time that we had seen each other in person since
Speaker 1: since the since the show. I missed her once when
Speaker 1: we were both in Chicago, like shortly after, and then
Speaker 1: we missed each other in another place too. But so
Speaker 1: we were able to like actually like talk and it
Speaker 1: was a little bit media of a conversation. Just knowing
Speaker 1: that the show had already gone. Had like all the
Speaker 1: episodes that aired, we had seen how it was going,
Speaker 1: and I think, like, when you're playing it back, you
Speaker 1: can you you it puts you back on the island.
Speaker 1: You know, it put in the in the scenario, so
Speaker 1: you're thinking, like, Okay, this is what was actually having,
Speaker 1: especially knowing that we had, you know, hundreds of hours
Speaker 1: of footage that like got condensed down, and so I
Speaker 1: think there was there was definitely some conversation going on,
Speaker 1: but it was good to see her. You know, I
Speaker 1: have nothing but but love Sarah, and you know, I
Speaker 1: wish I wish you the best. Is there any chance
Speaker 1: that that flame will spark up again? You know? I mean,
Speaker 1: you never know. We'll see, we'll see. I think we
Speaker 1: tried to be in the same in the same spot
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But I will say there were
Speaker 1: there were several responses to that, to that picture that
Speaker 1: I put up, word that I freaked out to that
Speaker 1: stay away like it was. It was definitely a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of balance there right now. Have you
Speaker 1: forgiven her for choosing Garrett over you? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't doubt her her ability
Speaker 1: to choose and you know, the hard ones with the
Speaker 1: hard ones I like him to do do is be
Speaker 1: me at the end of the day, And like it
Speaker 1: was her choice. So if I wasn't, if I wasn't
Speaker 1: suitable to her choice, then like, so be it. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know there's someone out for me. I think what.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, but when we were
Speaker 1: after I've been eliminated and you're asking, like, you know,
Speaker 1: what do you what do you think? I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, happy, all right, you know, I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta like going for myself, you know, handsome misterio and
Speaker 1: you know six, I mean, you're gonna be good man.
Speaker 1: We heard your abs are popping through more than ever.
Speaker 1: You got a nice smile. I like how you got.
Speaker 1: She was asking you your favorite, like your favorite physical attribute.
Speaker 1: You guys both asked that. I thought it was an
Speaker 1: interesting question because people don't often get to like say
Speaker 1: that about themselves. And and you said, I got a
Speaker 1: great smile and my and my abs and she cut her.
Speaker 1: She cut him off though he was going to say
Speaker 1: another great thing about him. I mean, he could have
Speaker 1: kept going, but I like that she just skipped up.
Speaker 1: Shoulders are solid, my cats are lean. You got to
Speaker 1: work with your temple. You know you're Yeah, you are
Speaker 1: such a humble, sweet guy. And everyone loved you, I
Speaker 1: have to say from you know, everyone on the show,
Speaker 1: like all the crew, everyone had a great, great interactions
Speaker 1: with you. You were kind to everyone, and um, you
Speaker 1: were always just. I was never scared about that. There
Speaker 1: was a certain part of me that was scared of
Speaker 1: the anger from certain guys if they got eliminated or
Speaker 1: if things in the show changed in a way that
Speaker 1: they didn't want. Like when I the double elimination, when
Speaker 1: I had to kick Casey off, I was so scared
Speaker 1: he was gonna like yell at me or something like
Speaker 1: I was. I was not as confident as some people
Speaker 1: might have thought. And I never worried about that with
Speaker 1: you because you just like you said, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: fine either way, and you just I thought. And in
Speaker 1: the moment where Welcome tried to like throw you under
Speaker 1: the bus about having notes in your hat, and instantly
Speaker 1: was like, who cares if he had notes? He honestly,
Speaker 1: it's it's benefit. Everyone should have notes in their hat.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I thought that was a good move. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's your least that's your worst quality. You'll be okay
Speaker 1: in life. You know, why are you single though? Josh? What?
Speaker 1: Why are you? Um? Also, he probably has you know,
Speaker 1: new or o G Jared M. I would argue that
Speaker 1: Josh probably has more d m s than Shared is
Speaker 1: not even close and looking at him me and modest
Speaker 1: is d ms are going wild. You can tell there.
Speaker 1: When I put out the question of what do you
Speaker 1: guys want to know about Foy Island, so many people
Speaker 1: were like, how do I get in touch with Josh?
Speaker 1: How do I what's going on with Josh? Um? I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, I know, I think so. I would love
Speaker 1: to be the biggest loser on a show like that.
Speaker 1: It would be the best thing. Well, I not saying
Speaker 1: you're a big you know you're six to you know.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Know you Why are you single? Though? Josh?
Speaker 1: Why is a guy like you that knows what he wants? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, successful man? Great smile, abs, YadA YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: Um why are you single? Um? Well? First, thank you
Speaker 1: for the comments. I do appreciate that now enjoying everybody
Speaker 1: else who was on that, who was on the cast
Speaker 1: and crew also, so it was very very genuine and
Speaker 1: reciprocal they're good, I will say, you know, I think
Speaker 1: I'm so. I mean again, not that it came, it
Speaker 1: didn't come through on the show necessarily, but I'm someone
Speaker 1: who keeps it moving. I enjoy an adventurous life. I
Speaker 1: will drop every guy. I enjoy a certain level of stability.
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, I will sell all this
Speaker 1: ship and move to South Africa tomorrow. So, like, I
Speaker 1: think that there's like there's a there's a variance there
Speaker 1: that throws a lot of people to be all the
Speaker 1: way honest. And so I'm not somebody who believes that
Speaker 1: you should have to settle down and looking for somebody
Speaker 1: who will settle up to me and we can like
Speaker 1: just roll together, you know um. And so I think
Speaker 1: that that's you know, it gets into I think that's
Speaker 1: that in short, that is the reason I just have
Speaker 1: not seen a person who has like, you know, who
Speaker 1: wants that the same things. Well, I think, now I'm
Speaker 1: going to South Africa with you tomorrow. Bro. I love
Speaker 1: your beer. Get in there. I did. I wait to
Speaker 1: get the thing off my face a contuity purpose. I
Speaker 1: switch it up like it just depends on what it is.
Speaker 1: And I when I filmed the we got halfway throughout
Speaker 1: it and I need to shave. They're like, no, no, can't.
Speaker 1: You have to keep them five weeks in your life.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I know you, I know that
Speaker 1: was wild because all the interstitials, you know, all the
Speaker 1: interview pieces. You guys would have to change back into
Speaker 1: that same outfit to do those interviews, right, because they
Speaker 1: got to keep it the same. I haven't been able
Speaker 1: to wear it since, like I've like I've retired about them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure. Putting that on was like just
Speaker 1: such a drag every day. It's like getting dressed in
Speaker 1: clothes that after a hook up that you find on
Speaker 1: the floor and you got to like dress like a
Speaker 1: like in a tight little skirt in the morning and
Speaker 1: you're just like, look um so like and then you're
Speaker 1: just taking it off putting it back on. Theyre just
Speaker 1: giving a little air drive. It's not it's not this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of little secrets to these shows that
Speaker 1: I realized that you once you see it, you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, because this this moment where they're all you
Speaker 1: cut to them sitting in a chair talking about the
Speaker 1: moment you're watching, where you have to phrase everything like
Speaker 1: so when Sarah and I are so Sarah and I
Speaker 1: are in this cave or how do you have to
Speaker 1: phrase it? You have to say like like you're there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like they're like Sarah and I are talking about
Speaker 1: something like and Sarah is looking really good right now,
Speaker 1: and I think that's would be like you're right that,
Speaker 1: like you're in the moment. It's it's hard to like
Speaker 1: do do you still find yourself narrating your life that way?
Speaker 1: I will say it made me a much better speaker,
Speaker 1: like just being cognizant of and an understanding of, like
Speaker 1: you want to get this on the first take, and
Speaker 1: like to be able to go this was honestly like
Speaker 1: a wild Like I learned so much from from you
Speaker 1: and from like all the cast and crew just in
Speaker 1: terms of like how to make a show and everything
Speaker 1: goes into it. And so I've basically been ruined to
Speaker 1: where like, well I can't watch TV without having like
Speaker 1: a critical eyey, like I know what they're trying to
Speaker 1: do right there, Like I get I get the game.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. It's uh, it does ruin TV and
Speaker 1: movies for you a little bit. But you know what
Speaker 1: I found that I thought it was going to ruin
Speaker 1: reality TV for me and I could never watch it
Speaker 1: the same way. And now it didn't, Thank God, because
Speaker 1: I do love reality TV and I love people like
Speaker 1: yourself who are open themselves up to you know, not
Speaker 1: knowing what the hell this is gonna be, and walking
Speaker 1: away from your life. And like you said, you're an
Speaker 1: adventurous guy, which I want to talk about. You have
Speaker 1: a podcast about traveling called travel Guides. G U y
Speaker 1: uh d e s um. What do you do for
Speaker 1: a living? I'm a brand marketer by day, but I'm
Speaker 1: a serial entrepreneur, So so you can just travel. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna finess something. I'm gonna make it work,
Speaker 1: you know, like that's just kind of how I've always
Speaker 1: lived my life. I'm a weekend warrior, so I'm good
Speaker 1: for uh, you know, jumping down to Belize or Costa
Speaker 1: Rica for like five four or five days and coming
Speaker 1: right back and and just like picking up seamlessly. Okay,
Speaker 1: tell us, uh one place we all need to go
Speaker 1: before we die. And also I want to a good
Speaker 1: travel to I'm someone who travels every weekend for work,
Speaker 1: and I want to I want to know a good
Speaker 1: travel tip, especially international travel, because it really intimidates me customs.
Speaker 1: I always feel like I'm somehow smuggling Heroin, and I
Speaker 1: get I get so nervous that I don't who knows
Speaker 1: I could. There's been a lot of things up there
Speaker 1: before Heroin. Yeah, that's a good point. One. Well, I
Speaker 1: had to smuggle sex toys into into the Caymans unknowingly.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a band there. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was sharing, I gave I gave him out. I was
Speaker 1: washing them off and strolling him out. I still I
Speaker 1: want them back to uh. But yeah, tell us where
Speaker 1: to go and UM a travel tip maybe that we
Speaker 1: wouldn't know about. I would say, UM one every Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: I do like a big group trip and trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what it's going to be this year. I'm
Speaker 1: leaning towards brew in the Galapagos Islands. But one year
Speaker 1: we did Israel Palestine Egypt in Paris and the UM.
Speaker 1: The Palestine Israel peace was wildly interesting because from like
Speaker 1: a biblical perspective and also from your current events standpoint,
Speaker 1: like you actually understand and everything's going on and in
Speaker 1: the history of it. UM, I will say that beyond that,
Speaker 1: Egypt was was a place I've been waiting to go
Speaker 1: for forever to see like the Sphinx and the Pyramids
Speaker 1: and and all that in persons King Tut's tomb um.
Speaker 1: It was. It was very dope. So I would say
Speaker 1: Egypt is probably where people need to go just to
Speaker 1: understand like the origin of civilization and everything. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, it's crazy, like when you and then
Speaker 1: you think about them not being able to do with
Speaker 1: modern technology is like it's not like Mount Rushmore where
Speaker 1: you go with this Yeah, yeah, I just always yeah okay.
Speaker 1: And then travel tip, travel tip, everybody needs global entry broo.
Speaker 1: Yeah he doesn't even have t s a pre this guy,
Speaker 1: and it's the it's the best hundred dollars you will spend. Okay,
Speaker 1: So global entry, that's gonna You're absolutely right. That line
Speaker 1: is never has anyone in it. It's the clear of
Speaker 1: international travel. And I'm gonna do it when you're when
Speaker 1: you're traveling, when you're coming back in. But if you don't,
Speaker 1: mobile passport is another good app to have where you
Speaker 1: can like skip the line as well. Well. These are
Speaker 1: great tips and um. For more of those and more
Speaker 1: of Josh McDonald, check out his podcast travel Guides do
Speaker 1: U Y D E S. I'm guessing you can find
Speaker 1: it anywhere on any podcast app and where what is
Speaker 1: your um? I wish the type in Josh and then
Speaker 1: your thing comes up, but it's not your name. What's
Speaker 1: your Instagram handle so people can follow you and d
Speaker 1: m you? Yeah, so I definitely, um, I can you can.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at g
Speaker 1: Q fifty on TikTok at Josh g Q fifty and
Speaker 1: I just joined Cameo, which is like a whole new yeah. Interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're already on there, but I'm
Speaker 1: on there. My price is a thousand dollars because I
Speaker 1: just didn't want to do them anymore because they were
Speaker 1: just coming in too hot and I got overwhelmed. And
Speaker 1: now people think I think I'm too cool, but it's
Speaker 1: like I just know no one would pay that, so
Speaker 1: I just want to break. But yeah, you're on cameo
Speaker 1: now too. It is very interesting. A lot of the
Speaker 1: guys are on there, and so when they were talking
Speaker 1: about I was like, Okay, like's we'll see what's going
Speaker 1: on some of them eating, but I was like, but
Speaker 1: I'm I'm knowing it I've gotten it took off pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: So Josh, we're about to interview Garrett. Tell me one thing?
Speaker 1: Why what? I like Garrett? Too? And I have to
Speaker 1: constantly defend that I like him and that he's someone
Speaker 1: that I would like to have be friends with, even
Speaker 1: knowing that he what he's done. Oh, what's something? Why
Speaker 1: do you like Garrett? Because now I feel validated that
Speaker 1: someone like you also likes him. M I will get
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it a thousand with you. This is how,
Speaker 1: this is how, this is how I feel about about Garrett.
Speaker 1: I feel like Garrett has a way that he wants
Speaker 1: to be perceived, and I think that he puts that
Speaker 1: out into the world also, and I think that that's
Speaker 1: what a lot of people get um and he is
Speaker 1: like Borgers a lot of a lot of times. You know,
Speaker 1: we are kind of two sides of the same coin,
Speaker 1: just we just go about it in different ways. I
Speaker 1: will say that, well, he's he's a he's a really
Speaker 1: nice guy when you get to when you get to
Speaker 1: know him, And guys interact with guys differently than guys
Speaker 1: interact with girls. So like, that's just that I'm seeing
Speaker 1: a different side of him. Um, you asked earlier, while
Speaker 1: we were able to get along on the show because
Speaker 1: he kept he kept working up, so like I didn't
Speaker 1: have to I didn't have to talk about him, you know.
Speaker 1: And then but then he had a historic comeback at
Speaker 1: the end, you know, obviously, so that was why I
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't need to kick I think he
Speaker 1: benefited from having the last date. I think whatever the
Speaker 1: last thing is, you kind of go that's had the
Speaker 1: last date. Yeah, it's a good I don't know. I
Speaker 1: I think that there was something about that. But Josh,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. We gotta interview Garrett now, and
Speaker 1: and we don't want to keep him waiting. I'm terrified
Speaker 1: of him. Uh, but you were amazing. Well I'll see
Speaker 1: you soon hopefully. And thanks for just really representing the
Speaker 1: nice guys on the show in such a real authentic way.
Speaker 1: You're you're you're real dude. I appreciate it. Can't wait
Speaker 1: to see you in uh in November. Yes see you then,
Speaker 1: all right, bye, Josh, Thanks, all right, we're gonna take
Speaker 1: a break and be right back with Gearing. Oh Garrett,
Speaker 1: good to see you. Gary. Um, oh my god man,
Speaker 1: you're our headline or guest for a good reason. You
Speaker 1: are iconic, uh controversial. I mean people either love you
Speaker 1: or hate you or both. And um, I just want
Speaker 1: to ask you, following the finale of f Boy Island,
Speaker 1: how are you? And um? Are you? Are you? Are
Speaker 1: you okay? Are you talking to people? Are you, like
Speaker 1: you know, specialists? Are you processing your feelings because you're
Speaker 1: you're getting you're getting a lot of hate and whether
Speaker 1: it's deserved or not, Like that's a lot to take on.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing like people are probably being mean to you. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think the first well, that Thursday, we
Speaker 1: had The Last Drop. My parents are watched everything and
Speaker 1: I did because Casey is over my place. So I
Speaker 1: watched the first two episodes of that Last Drop in
Speaker 1: my ad calls and he's like, yeah, I get you know.
Speaker 1: Not a good look, man, not a good look. So
Speaker 1: and that's whenever we went, that's whenever we went to
Speaker 1: like Division had like a birthday party. At the birthday party,
Speaker 1: my dad's calling me, I'm talking to you while there,
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, I was like just
Speaker 1: stream my after stream my after stream d M s
Speaker 1: from like again all of like the little trolls out there,
Speaker 1: and that's when I was like ship, So I left
Speaker 1: the party and actually came home to watch it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that it was like that first day
Speaker 1: of watching it where I was just like Ship, like
Speaker 1: definitely definitely didn't look at didn't get the best cut
Speaker 1: on that one. UM, tell me, though, what what did
Speaker 1: you think? Was? What did you between the end of
Speaker 1: April when we shot that last episode and and airing
Speaker 1: last Thursday, the finale, because that's the one that really
Speaker 1: sealed the deal for you. Were you worried about anything?
Speaker 1: Were you kind of preparing for, like, you know, hunkering down,
Speaker 1: taping up the windows, ready for the hurricane of hate
Speaker 1: that was gonna come your way because you knew what
Speaker 1: you did. Yeah, I mean I knew what I did,
Speaker 1: but I didn't think it was like that, you know.
Speaker 1: I Like again, I was like, all right, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a competition dating show. The whole thing was just
Speaker 1: to hide that you're an f boy. It was very
Speaker 1: clear from the start of what I was. The first
Speaker 1: thing I said to me whenever I initially went and
Speaker 1: talked to her, and I had that first date in
Speaker 1: a little like club v IP area, I mean she
Speaker 1: literally was like, I mean you're wearing rip jeans. You
Speaker 1: looks like a fun boy. I was like, all right, so,
Speaker 1: I mean I was kind of out of off off
Speaker 1: rip um and then uh yeah, I mean definitely wasn't
Speaker 1: really prepared for the hate. I would say more like
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, cool, Like I won the show.
Speaker 1: I did, but I did. God, I think I did
Speaker 1: more work in therapy on the response that Garrett would
Speaker 1: go through once because I was honestly worried about you,
Speaker 1: because I go, this is a guy that does not
Speaker 1: you know, I always liked you, and I even advised
Speaker 1: Sarah that I think she should pick you because I
Speaker 1: believed that you really liked her, and I think you
Speaker 1: actually did. I don't think that was bullshit. I think
Speaker 1: you just in the end wanted to play the game
Speaker 1: and chose the game over a girl. But were your
Speaker 1: feelings real for her? Absolutely? I mean I was just
Speaker 1: with Sarah not too long ago. So what Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: t MC article came out this morning at eight am.
Speaker 1: Bombarded are one yesterday with Greg Actually, but you, Sarah
Speaker 1: and Gregg went to air one together and wait again,
Speaker 1: what uh that's a that's like a high End grocery store.
Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know in l a um,
Speaker 1: are you and Sarah like talking? What's going on? We're
Speaker 1: definitely trying to hash out some things. Uh? Has she
Speaker 1: forgiven you? Did you apologize? Like? What was the fallout?
Speaker 1: What what happened after you left island? We'll get to
Speaker 1: right currently and TMZ, what happened when you left the island?
Speaker 1: We want to know because I remember leaving that night
Speaker 1: the villa after you were after you chose the money
Speaker 1: over Sarah. And by the way, how okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions. First off, how watching
Speaker 1: it last night, Garrett, I had just I had to
Speaker 1: fast forward through it because it was so awkward for
Speaker 1: me because I knew what was going to happen. How
Speaker 1: did you give that monologue about wanting to kiss her
Speaker 1: in the morning and he told Pizza? How I knew?
Speaker 1: I know that that was sincere? Like did you just
Speaker 1: have to like knowing because you knew what you were
Speaker 1: about to do? How did how did you do that?
Speaker 1: How were you able to be so sincere and and
Speaker 1: say that to a girl and then know that you
Speaker 1: were just about to like really devastate her, and did
Speaker 1: you think that I was in the devastat her or
Speaker 1: did you think she was going to understand like what
Speaker 1: was going through your mind? All right, so obviously you
Speaker 1: know you have we had that last date that's way
Speaker 1: for our mega date. Yeah. Yeah, that was the first
Speaker 1: time that like from that date and then like spending
Speaker 1: the night we got to talk in bed like off camera, um,
Speaker 1: pretty thoroughly and pretty pretty like really in depth. I
Speaker 1: mean we're up tilling I think like five am that day. Um,
Speaker 1: so that's whenever we started talking about like I don't know,
Speaker 1: just like just shooting this ship, like just normal stuff,
Speaker 1: like you know, stuff just like you know, again we
Speaker 1: were talking about like all right, like the cold pizza,
Speaker 1: like all this like ram stuff. So that last speech
Speaker 1: is like kind of all subliminal messages because it was
Speaker 1: all off camera. So I had a feeling those were
Speaker 1: things you had talked about an inside jokes because she
Speaker 1: was sitting there going like she was smiling and like
Speaker 1: almost getting like emotional, like, oh, this guy's referencing these
Speaker 1: little things we talked about. I knew that, okay, So
Speaker 1: how could you take those and then flip keep going Okay,
Speaker 1: so you know we have you know, probably like a day,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, like twelve hours before we have
Speaker 1: you know, the finale and everything. That I think the
Speaker 1: biggest thing for me at that moment was the fact
Speaker 1: that like I'm not good, Like it was like the
Speaker 1: entire time in the doghouse and then you know, I
Speaker 1: get this amazing day there, and then I'm also not
Speaker 1: good at sharing someone. So I think for me, I
Speaker 1: was just sitting there and I was like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: like do I want to you know, try to like
Speaker 1: fake some relationship after And in all my interviews I
Speaker 1: was even saying I was like, you know, if I
Speaker 1: get picked, like you know, I'm gonna take the money
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna give her sixty forty because I
Speaker 1: left there at sixty forty still fun boy, but you know, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll give her six. I'll take forty, and
Speaker 1: then she can take me on a date and we
Speaker 1: can see if things you know, actually like really spark.
Speaker 1: You know, outside of the show, that opportunity obviously didn't happen. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think in that moment for me, it was
Speaker 1: like man like kissing like another person and hooking up
Speaker 1: with another person and then like just it was just
Speaker 1: so much confusion in my head, and I was like,
Speaker 1: do I really want to leave here and be like
Speaker 1: O G Jared and the oh yeah, I'm in love
Speaker 1: with you. Um So at the time, I think it
Speaker 1: was more or less just like I don't want to
Speaker 1: try to fake something, but I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is real or not. Alright, that that's real good? I mean,
Speaker 1: and I felt the same way. You know. I hate
Speaker 1: on these shows when people are forced into proposals, when
Speaker 1: it's just really like, all I want you to say
Speaker 1: is like you like each other and you're willing to
Speaker 1: give this a shot, that it doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: this like love thing and the fireworks and everything, Like
Speaker 1: agreeing to date someone off of a show is big
Speaker 1: enough for me. But I think you're right, like she
Speaker 1: she's these girls both spent the night with guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: Nikia made what's his name sleep on the Nando sleep
Speaker 1: on the cot, but uh, you know, Sarah and c
Speaker 1: J both spent you know, intimate moments in bed. Not
Speaker 1: we don't really know what happened, but you know she's
Speaker 1: in a bed with another guy the night before you.
Speaker 1: And then you're supposed to just go all in on her,
Speaker 1: and yes, that's the name of the game. And she's
Speaker 1: she's we don't need to be like, oh, what a slutter.
Speaker 1: So it's slut shaming. That's the way you play the game.
Speaker 1: But that I think that's smart to not want to
Speaker 1: go all in. I guess we're What was that first
Speaker 1: conversation with Sarah, like after the elimination and who reached
Speaker 1: out to who? How did that go down? Okay, actually
Speaker 1: later that day, so I have multiple phones, three phones.
Speaker 1: Actually we knew you had three phones. You That was
Speaker 1: phone Gate was a whole other side of the show
Speaker 1: that didn't come out when everyone was like Garrett's got
Speaker 1: a phone. They're they're talking, they're texting at night, and
Speaker 1: they were they searched your cabin like you know, it
Speaker 1: was a jail cell. They're looking for, you know, contraband,
Speaker 1: but they could not find your damn phone. Where did
Speaker 1: you hide those phones? Have? Jared Scarf's No one wanted
Speaker 1: to touch those. I wrapped I wrapped it up into
Speaker 1: Jared Scarf And then there's just a little like pockets
Speaker 1: in the remost suitcases that you can like like rip
Speaker 1: down and I put them in there and then I
Speaker 1: had another one that was hitting somewhere else. I actually
Speaker 1: got one of my phones confiscated. But I never used
Speaker 1: my phone when I was there. It was actually just
Speaker 1: I would just give it to my boys, uh or
Speaker 1: other people when they needed to, uh you know, rub
Speaker 1: one out in the bathroom. Um. They love technology on
Speaker 1: just the idea of holding a phone again made them
Speaker 1: mart Literally, how did you feel when Gary? Oh sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: st I was just gonna say so after that, like
Speaker 1: after the finale, after everything like that, you know, we
Speaker 1: had a couple of days and they came out. Was
Speaker 1: just to kind of like chill out, um and I
Speaker 1: DM Sarah because we kind of like all got our
Speaker 1: phones bag. And then later that night, I actually snuck
Speaker 1: out because they were saying at the more it's that night,
Speaker 1: which is right, Yeah, I don't know a couple hundred
Speaker 1: yards down. So I snuck out and like I like
Speaker 1: went and we had like a full blown conversation that night. So,
Speaker 1: and then everyone was trying to find me from production
Speaker 1: and I was like hiding underneath the bed and they
Speaker 1: all came in the room like full blown, like all right,
Speaker 1: we gotta kick everyone out. They kicked out Casey out
Speaker 1: of c j's room and Jared. So Casey and Jerry
Speaker 1: were still going for c J after everything. It was
Speaker 1: the on thing ever, Yo, Jared throwing rocks that CJ's window.
Speaker 1: Wait wait the elimination. I didn't hear any of that.
Speaker 1: After the elimination, you guys are in the Caymans for
Speaker 1: a couple more days. Just you get back your phones.
Speaker 1: We so she she let Casey go. We saw there
Speaker 1: was still some sparks there. Jared comes and is throwing rocks.
Speaker 1: How did this all? Walking through this? So I DM S.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo me in case you're gonna come
Speaker 1: over and they get CJ there and she was like yeah,
Speaker 1: but like new Jared is you know, like trying to
Speaker 1: come over to CJS or not. And mind you like
Speaker 1: they were both Casey and Jared were trashed at this point.
Speaker 1: They were both drunk, like walking on the sand like
Speaker 1: trying to get through feet getting wet. I mean there's
Speaker 1: production everywhere, so it was like full blown like reminded
Speaker 1: me of like a little kid. And we were like
Speaker 1: going to egghouses and stuff like that. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like Devil's not all over again. So like you know,
Speaker 1: we're like sneaking it out. We saw the vans everywhere.
Speaker 1: We snuck up to the rooms. We asked what rooms
Speaker 1: they were in, and uh yeah, I mean she opened
Speaker 1: the door. I went in. And then because Jared was
Speaker 1: doing rocks outside like an idiot, like obviously obviously production's
Speaker 1: got a good arm too. Yeah, he's good on It's
Speaker 1: like honestly, at one point he was doing rocks so hard.
Speaker 1: I think he's hitting the wrong window at one point.
Speaker 1: And then he's going fars room. We come outside and like, bro,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And we just look out and
Speaker 1: there's this dude behind it like a tree, just like
Speaker 1: like like super creamy, and we're like then he smiled
Speaker 1: and starts chuckling and you can see his bright smile.
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, like come up here. Meanwhile, he comes
Speaker 1: up to c J's and Casey is in CJ's room.
Speaker 1: At this time, they had like beef like there's just
Speaker 1: so much stuff that they have gonna throw down or no,
Speaker 1: I mean there are some words that were exchanged and
Speaker 1: they were both drownk too, and they're both more or
Speaker 1: less like like just looking at like like, bro, like
Speaker 1: what's going on here? Pick us again? It's all over again.
Speaker 1: When you're hiding under to bed. You who knew there
Speaker 1: was a show after the show? I didn't even know this.
Speaker 1: So production leaves you come out from under the bed
Speaker 1: and wait, so they didn't catch you. They were in
Speaker 1: the room and you're under the bed. Yes, So there's
Speaker 1: three people that came in. I'm not going to listen
Speaker 1: to names, but they came in and they looked everywhere.
Speaker 1: They're like literally opening up like dressers and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: They didn't check onto the bed, and then they all, right,
Speaker 1: let's go. You're such a big guy to like your
Speaker 1: feet are like sticking out under the get under. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. Okay, so you So you and Sarah patched
Speaker 1: things up and um, and she forgave you that night,
Speaker 1: like she she heard you out and understood where you
Speaker 1: came from. Yeah, I mean she heard me out at least. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was I think that she handled it.
Speaker 1: I think we were watching last night and both agreed
Speaker 1: this all what the best it could for everyone. I
Speaker 1: think that like if Sarah would have chosen Josh, she
Speaker 1: wasn't ready for that kind of relationship with Josh. It
Speaker 1: wasn't about people keep asking me, why would she choose, Like,
Speaker 1: why would you choose an F boy when he says
Speaker 1: he's an F boy? Because that is true, Garrett, you
Speaker 1: you were always enough boy like you kind of at
Speaker 1: least I almost say that the F boys I trust
Speaker 1: more than the nice guys. Not not the way they
Speaker 1: portrayed themselves to the girls. Because you guys had to
Speaker 1: lie to the girls. It was kind of like part
Speaker 1: of the game. But um, the way that you were
Speaker 1: even admitting on camera that you were an F boy,
Speaker 1: I was like, honestly, that's I trust them more than
Speaker 1: I do the nice guys. What proof do we have
Speaker 1: from the nice guys? I need to see some evidence
Speaker 1: of what makes them a nice guy? And and and
Speaker 1: I wanted to even I mean, next time around, I
Speaker 1: want to contact their exes and like, I really do
Speaker 1: our research to make sure I saw. Speaking of exes,
Speaker 1: why did you not delete that those images on your
Speaker 1: Instagram of you and your ex four weeks or something
Speaker 1: before coming on the show. It wasn't like normal photo.
Speaker 1: It was like you a video you and your ex
Speaker 1: girlfriends like asked embraced like it was it was why
Speaker 1: would you not delete those? Um? So if you look,
Speaker 1: if you look at my feed, uh, just in general,
Speaker 1: like the I have a couple of other girls that
Speaker 1: are on my feet as well. And I think for me,
Speaker 1: the biggest thing when it comes down to that, like
Speaker 1: I'm not the type of person who's in a relationship
Speaker 1: who's gonna be like, you know, insecure that some girl
Speaker 1: was with some guy, and also like you know they're
Speaker 1: they're pretty cool photos, not gonna lie. And I think
Speaker 1: the biggest thing though, is like why would I erase
Speaker 1: certain memories and moments of my time that were special
Speaker 1: to me for someone else's satisfaction. They were four weeks
Speaker 1: before you came on a show where you were looking
Speaker 1: for love where you point what about that? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, I mean we ended things and that's kind
Speaker 1: of how it went. Yeah yeah, all right, Well what's
Speaker 1: going on with your dating life? What's up? I've said
Speaker 1: I've surmids because people keep I did an interview. I've
Speaker 1: been doing so many interviews with you know, real journalists
Speaker 1: who want to ask me about the difference between an
Speaker 1: F boy and a nice guy and why do the girls,
Speaker 1: after knowing he's an F boy still want him? And
Speaker 1: and I just say, because we want what we think
Speaker 1: we can't have. Uh, they're dangerous, they're charming. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you're all of those things. You're mysterious, you're also
Speaker 1: there's some kind of like weird honesty to you that
Speaker 1: I mean last night the quote that I want to
Speaker 1: play for everyone right now that you said, uh to
Speaker 1: when when Casey threw you under the bus at the
Speaker 1: man splane and said that you were the one who
Speaker 1: told him that c J was a glorified escort. You
Speaker 1: you said that at at the man splain uh. Later
Speaker 1: on you go up to Casey and you're like, man,
Speaker 1: that sucked, Like why did you do that? And He's like, no,
Speaker 1: it was a bitch move. And and you got you say,
Speaker 1: I watched it so many times because I couldn't say
Speaker 1: it was so funny. God, damnit, where is it? I've
Speaker 1: filmed it? Well, what you said was you said, um, dude,
Speaker 1: why didn't you just blame Why didn't you just blame
Speaker 1: it on Kevin? Why why was that? You said? It's
Speaker 1: so sincerely too, like, man, just say it was Kevin
Speaker 1: because of the helicopter thing, but no one knew about that. Well,
Speaker 1: there you go. Now he just made a great point
Speaker 1: right there. I was the one who I wasn't the
Speaker 1: person who said that. Oh yeah, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: So I wasn't the person who made that comment? Well,
Speaker 1: then why did he say it was you? Because you
Speaker 1: knew at that time that he had to blame it
Speaker 1: on someone who looked like they could, who would like
Speaker 1: be able to take the blame and person. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have really big conversation after that. I was like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you want to move with me? Move in with me? Bro, like,
Speaker 1: and I can't trust you like interesting throwing under the
Speaker 1: bus like that, especially when this is something that I
Speaker 1: didn't say. Um, again, it goes back to the helicopter
Speaker 1: Kevin who said that, Uh so supposedly whatever cases in Limb, bro,
Speaker 1: uh there were some words that were exchanged. Um. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll leave it at that right now. Well, no, I
Speaker 1: actually checked in on this. Give us an update of
Speaker 1: they go. I think they should go by Karen Gaycey
Speaker 1: reminds me of the serial Killer, which actually is more
Speaker 1: fitting for your sociobathic tendencies that everyone's been calling you
Speaker 1: out for what's going on with Gacy right now? Alright,
Speaker 1: so Casey stayed here for like five days. Um, you
Speaker 1: know it's one of those things after to show you
Speaker 1: want to come out to allis. He was like, we
Speaker 1: had a great time to say the least. Um, tell
Speaker 1: me how many girls you guys bang together? How many
Speaker 1: Paris things were going on? Yeah? Did you guys answer?
Speaker 1: Be honest with me, because you you were very honest.
Speaker 1: You're casting video is one of my favorites of all
Speaker 1: the sexual escapades you have. You were like, I take
Speaker 1: down two girls, three girls, four girls? You could have
Speaker 1: kept going. Um, you said you were just You've done
Speaker 1: a lot of sexual things. You're also a freak. You
Speaker 1: also kiss. When you would kiss the you would grab
Speaker 1: her neck, which me and my producer Noah were so
Speaker 1: turned on by. We like felt we had to like
Speaker 1: we had to stop and go change underwear several times
Speaker 1: throughout that episode because that was so hot. Is that
Speaker 1: a move, Garrett? Do you do? You do? You know
Speaker 1: that girls like that and not all girls do. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say that everyone should go out there
Speaker 1: choking women right away, but it was a gentle It
Speaker 1: was a gentle touch, But that was that was a
Speaker 1: hot move. Well yeah, I mean the first time, I
Speaker 1: guess I didn't do that. It was more the side
Speaker 1: of the face. And then I think, as you get
Speaker 1: to know someone, you need to understand like as welcome
Speaker 1: and say there's trigger points and things like that and
Speaker 1: how to touch someone. Was there okay with me? That's
Speaker 1: you're the kill you know? Yeah? It was. God, don't
Speaker 1: I've felt a little weird with that. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: this chair is gray easily, get very little. Tell me, Garrett,
Speaker 1: you you I am a very sexually open person. I
Speaker 1: was glad to hear you kind of talking openly about
Speaker 1: sex before you and Sarah had even actually gotten into
Speaker 1: a bedroom together, and I think you had kissed at
Speaker 1: that point. But we were actually talking about on the
Speaker 1: show yesterday about when is it okay to start talking
Speaker 1: about like likes and dislikes in bed? And I said
Speaker 1: I liked that Garrett brought it up and was like,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite kind of for play? And and I
Speaker 1: didn't put her on the spot. I mean, you were
Speaker 1: just like very comfortable having those conversations. Uh, what when
Speaker 1: did you start having sex? And? Um, are you addicted
Speaker 1: to it? Um? When I started having sex? Actually, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. The first time I lost my virginity
Speaker 1: it was from growth like two years older than me.
Speaker 1: I was like seventh grade summer and at the seventh
Speaker 1: grade I didn't hit puberty. And this girl, me and
Speaker 1: my cousin actually we went to the the mall and
Speaker 1: that's when having mall has had like the condoms, and
Speaker 1: me and him meet and him. Me and him were
Speaker 1: always so competitive, and it was my uncle's fiftieth birthday,
Speaker 1: so we were like, we go to the mall. We're
Speaker 1: in hereie Pennsylvania, which is like bump fuck nowhere, and
Speaker 1: really trying to act all cool and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, but like if you hung out with
Speaker 1: the high school as yet, bro, like have you drank yet?
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, man, I drank not too long ago
Speaker 1: this summer. We're like yeah, like there should be some
Speaker 1: girls there too, and really trying to just like outdo
Speaker 1: each other even though neither one of us had drank.
Speaker 1: Either one of us has had sex at this point,
Speaker 1: and I actually got caught, uh fucking a girl sorry,
Speaker 1: having sex with this girl who was two years older
Speaker 1: than me behind our parents and they caught us drinking.
Speaker 1: We really trying to figure out like who could drink
Speaker 1: more that night so we'd keep the bottle caps and
Speaker 1: put them in my pocket while we would take like
Speaker 1: two steps of like a Heineken and like pour it
Speaker 1: out and like all right, yeah, like I just drank
Speaker 1: that one. Like wait, how did you meet this girl
Speaker 1: with she had the party? Yeah? So she was one
Speaker 1: of my cousin's friends. Okay, I'm so glad. I I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna stud with cousins and I just
Speaker 1: West Virginia. Okay, so you lost your virginity in seventh grade,
Speaker 1: which is very early. Then when did you start having
Speaker 1: you know, like your Instagram Garrett? Sometimes I just want
Speaker 1: to comment how am I supposed to take you seriously?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all I want, because you're such a
Speaker 1: funny guy that like actually has a good personality I think,
Speaker 1: and and is emotionally vulnerable. I mean, you cried several
Speaker 1: times on the show in ways that I thought we're
Speaker 1: not staged? Did you trick me? Every time I cried?
Speaker 1: Was never staged? They didn't show a lot of it,
Speaker 1: but every time I cried, And those are raw emotional feelings.
Speaker 1: I believe you when you say that, and I just
Speaker 1: have to take your word for it. But I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone is that good of an actor, but I
Speaker 1: believe you. Uh so, what was I even getting at?
Speaker 1: Sex addict? Do you feel like, oh no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: but I was getting at the emotional side of you.
Speaker 1: And then the uh Instagram Oh yeah, Instagram post you
Speaker 1: I mean you're nine eleven post? Can we remember? Do
Speaker 1: you remember that? Garrett? We trashed you so hard? Like
Speaker 1: I couldn't because you know, you can't find it. It's
Speaker 1: gone somehow, just like the tower. I pretty sure I
Speaker 1: remember posting that and like getting some serious hate from people.
Speaker 1: And that was my college and in my head at
Speaker 1: the time, like I might have been so because I
Speaker 1: was a lot different, like five six years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't give a shit about any like I just
Speaker 1: like you posted a shirtless picture, like a really artistic
Speaker 1: shirtless hot picture where he's wearing you can only see
Speaker 1: like a little inch of camo a pant. He posted
Speaker 1: a nine eleven tribute thinking about all the victims and
Speaker 1: the people who had fought for our freedom since then,
Speaker 1: and a very sincere I'm not even there was no
Speaker 1: irony here and the reason why he was wearing camo.
Speaker 1: He I think you even referenced. I think you even
Speaker 1: hashtag camo and like, never forget it was so funny. Garrett.
Speaker 1: I'm not even joking you. I liked you so much
Speaker 1: on the show. Like I I just was always like,
Speaker 1: just very tickled by you. You always were just very uh.
Speaker 1: I feel like you you were invested in the show,
Speaker 1: emotionally vulnerable at the same time, like you would like
Speaker 1: to have fun. You would laugh at my jokes. You
Speaker 1: made me feel a lot more comfortable than a lot
Speaker 1: of the other guys did. And then I remember someone
Speaker 1: showing me your Instagram and I go, you have to
Speaker 1: put that away because I hate that person and I
Speaker 1: like him so much. This does not represent him to me. Garrett,
Speaker 1: Why are you? Why do you post like that? What
Speaker 1: are you someone who like rents fake private planes to
Speaker 1: like take pictures in? Or is that real? That was
Speaker 1: a real one, my friend. That was the first actually
Speaker 1: private JED I ever went on. It was from l
Speaker 1: A to was from where was? Where were we? We
Speaker 1: don't care, Garrett, it was it was from I think
Speaker 1: it was from the Vata to Um asked him. That
Speaker 1: was the first private d I ever went on. It
Speaker 1: was actually a lot of fun, my friend. Actually, Okay,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't a fake one. Because I know that
Speaker 1: some people like buy those sets, you know, take pictures.
Speaker 1: But what is this Instagram persona? I feel like I
Speaker 1: want you to be your I want you to have
Speaker 1: I want to watch more shows with you on them.
Speaker 1: I just you're so funny. We just lost video, okay,
Speaker 1: we You're so funny and you say such ridiculous things.
Speaker 1: I want more of that on your Instagram. Can I
Speaker 1: get more of that from you? You know? I just
Speaker 1: I just signed up for TikTok, so I'll start to
Speaker 1: start sharing some my TikTok talk about rios. When it
Speaker 1: comes to like photos and stuff like that, Yeah, I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess I need to step it up. It's just
Speaker 1: like I don't want I don't want you to try
Speaker 1: to be funny because you are, but I want you
Speaker 1: to just stop trying to be cool because you also are.
Speaker 1: You know, like you don't need to try and like
Speaker 1: have these poses and like these faces like it's not
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it is you. I don't That's what
Speaker 1: I would Morowsky. You are so funny, you saying, man,
Speaker 1: why don't you just blame Kevin for it? Was? So
Speaker 1: there's so many lines on the show that I have
Speaker 1: to watch again and again because I'm hysterically laughing at
Speaker 1: just the way you talk and how your bromance with
Speaker 1: Casey was so funny because you were when you asked
Speaker 1: him to move in with you, it was like it
Speaker 1: was a real moment. I mean that was not that
Speaker 1: was not like, uh you You're not You're not funny
Speaker 1: enough to write these things like like you're you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I knew you're a calculated person,
Speaker 1: but you write some lines for yourself that comedy writers
Speaker 1: couldn't even come up with. So I I want to
Speaker 1: see more of that from you. It looks like me
Speaker 1: and you might need a little uh well bromance show.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like like Polly d and Benny but
Speaker 1: Jersey short as I would watch a spinoff of you guys.
Speaker 1: All I want to see is you guys growing down
Speaker 1: and talking about your feelings and because you're both willing
Speaker 1: to go there. When I talked to Casey and Limbro
Speaker 1: and did like therapy with him, he was very like
Speaker 1: vulnerable and open as well, which I was shot sucked
Speaker 1: by because you guys are f boys. And then I
Speaker 1: don't know when you cried on the show, I was
Speaker 1: moved by it. And when you, oh my god, during
Speaker 1: the The Man's Plaine, you sitting there just looking shell shocked.
Speaker 1: I wanted to put like a blanket around you, like
Speaker 1: you're a refugee. You look so there. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I like you so much? What is what is it?
Speaker 1: What is it about F boy that says he's an
Speaker 1: F boy? Where we girls and guys? I mean, I
Speaker 1: just got off the call. Josh was on the show.
Speaker 1: He loves you, and I go, thank God, someone else
Speaker 1: I trust, like Scarrett too, because everyone's telling me, how
Speaker 1: could you like Garrett? Now? These are people that have
Speaker 1: only watched the show and didn't actually know you, And
Speaker 1: I don't know. I what is it As a guy?
Speaker 1: I think, oh, go ahead, Sorry, sorry no. I just
Speaker 1: remember throwing the football. Yeah, I wanted to bring that
Speaker 1: up in the football with you on the beach. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember that. It was one of
Speaker 1: the best days of Andrew's life. But guys like other
Speaker 1: like strong athletic guys. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: There's a confidence to to him. He has a great arm.
Speaker 1: If you have a good arm, you know it's pretty quick.
Speaker 1: You're gonna want to be friends with him. It's guys
Speaker 1: are very simple like that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: definitely simply that's like, Yo, you can play cornhole and
Speaker 1: you're gonna cornhole, all right, Cool, you're my best friend.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I just want to it. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to hang out with you. I want to smell.
Speaker 1: And that was the interesting thing that c J said
Speaker 1: about you. We talked to her today to um. She
Speaker 1: had said that, you know, she got mad at Casey
Speaker 1: for standing up for you so much, and she just
Speaker 1: she didn't mind him being friends with you and living
Speaker 1: with you. It was about him saying you were a
Speaker 1: good guy, just like they can't say that. I mean
Speaker 1: that you get but do you think you're a good person? Um?
Speaker 1: I think the reason why again I was you know, Sarah,
Speaker 1: can't we tell the end? And why you know people
Speaker 1: are saying that I'm a good person is because I
Speaker 1: am definitely type of person who is rough round the edges,
Speaker 1: but the second you can get inside, I'm a giant
Speaker 1: teddy bear. It's really hard for me to trust people
Speaker 1: because I haven't hurt in my past and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: A very generous person for the people that I and
Speaker 1: I'm like very generous, like a puff and beyond generous.
Speaker 1: So I think that's why I like, again, a lot
Speaker 1: of people still say good things about me. I mean
Speaker 1: I really I was really friends with every single person
Speaker 1: honestly on the show except Matt and Chris little sucking
Speaker 1: rap boys, but besides them. I still that's the thing
Speaker 1: that I still sit here and I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: you guys. You know you did your part. I mean,
Speaker 1: you had no game at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: I still respect both of you guys as people, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, leaving here, I mean, you're still a little
Speaker 1: rap boys. But what's one thing on the show that
Speaker 1: you wish they would have aired that they didn't Chris's
Speaker 1: little penis? Maybe that was so me? That was I
Speaker 1: that's the thing, Like I I got that line from Casey,
Speaker 1: like you know, and Casey got it from Kevin. There
Speaker 1: you go. I think the biggest thing that could have
Speaker 1: aired on the show, which would have been uh, I
Speaker 1: would probably say whenever I was on my hands and
Speaker 1: knees and multiple times begging and pleading to the girls,
Speaker 1: I can't believe they didn't air you. You getting on
Speaker 1: your hands and knees and and and asking, and I
Speaker 1: mean you took a lot of ship from Nikia and
Speaker 1: c J. They would be so mean to you when
Speaker 1: you would show up to not be too sympathetic for
Speaker 1: it a character. I think they just didn't have enough time.
Speaker 1: I mean they cut some they'd cut me yelling at Charlie.
Speaker 1: You know, like there were so many great moments where
Speaker 1: you go, how did that not air? And it was
Speaker 1: just there was too much good stuff. Him begging like
Speaker 1: that proved to me like why he was still on
Speaker 1: the show, Like that was Yeah, it gave it, It
Speaker 1: gave it context. And I know that, Um, I know
Speaker 1: that there were some people that were upset about you know,
Speaker 1: the girls chose the way they chose because not just
Speaker 1: of what you saw on camera, but what you didn't see.
Speaker 1: And you can't say I would never have chosen Garrett.
Speaker 1: You don't know what it's like to be the girl
Speaker 1: that Garrett has his arm or his hand wrapped around
Speaker 1: her neck and is uh, you know, twisting around on
Speaker 1: that fucking thing on the ocean. What was that? You
Speaker 1: were great at that? Oh the little I don't even know,
Speaker 1: it's like a little hoverboard. But with like I just
Speaker 1: know that every guy on RYA has a picture on
Speaker 1: one of those, so I guess it's a thing that
Speaker 1: rich Um. But Garrett, Uh, I'm not gonna let you
Speaker 1: go without answering if you and Casey engaged in any
Speaker 1: sexual activity together or have engaged in any sexual activity together.
Speaker 1: I am, um, someone who is a huge advocate of
Speaker 1: men joining forces to have fun with women. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a gay thing or like anything that. So,
Speaker 1: um have you have you and Casey banged girls together
Speaker 1: at the same time? I mean we've crossed swords for sure,
Speaker 1: whenever we pea like you know, stuff like that on women. No, No,
Speaker 1: are you are Kelly and out there know whatever? Like
Speaker 1: you know we're the bathroom and stuff like. Help me.
Speaker 1: I'm asking you if you and Casey got into any
Speaker 1: um because I know you like having multiple partners. You've
Speaker 1: had threesomes, foursoms, five sums? Was there? Um did you
Speaker 1: and Casey? Uh? Have you? Are you showing him your
Speaker 1: your ways? Because I don't think Casey does that has
Speaker 1: the sexual escapades that you have a l a back
Speaker 1: in Ohio and I think you were like I can
Speaker 1: show you the world and like took him on an
Speaker 1: adventure the world. Oh he's got a voice to Garrett,
Speaker 1: what did you is that? A? Yes, I would tell
Speaker 1: you this much. Casey stayed with me. I have never
Speaker 1: seen Casey on such a hot streak in my life. Um, well,
Speaker 1: you just met him, so that's not a crazy statement.
Speaker 1: But okay, after the show, I went out to Columbus
Speaker 1: and I hung out with him for a little bit.
Speaker 1: I did get to see another side of Casey as well,
Speaker 1: whenever he was hanging out with the girl that he liked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean as far as us, you know, gay seeing girls.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just have to leave you guys a
Speaker 1: little teaser on that one. But you know, sarahs in
Speaker 1: l A, so you know that's not a good look
Speaker 1: for me, you know. So actually I was a good
Speaker 1: boy in case he was here. You you don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about dating other women because of maybe something
Speaker 1: that might be happening with Sarah. So you and Sarah
Speaker 1: possibly aren't done yet, and she would maybe be sad
Speaker 1: hearing that you would hook up with other girls, which
Speaker 1: you're not saying you did, but with the status of
Speaker 1: you and Sarah right now, she would not be happy
Speaker 1: to hear. There are certain things that I can't say
Speaker 1: that I would love to say right now. Um, like
Speaker 1: these suitcases that are in my place right now. But
Speaker 1: oh ex motherfucker shock under the bed she wrapped up
Speaker 1: in some scarves. Okay, well that's all we need to know. Well, um,
Speaker 1: let Sarah know. I told c J to tell Sarah
Speaker 1: that will be in touch soon to talk to her
Speaker 1: about her experience. But um, I guess I should tell
Speaker 1: you to let her know, and I bet she could
Speaker 1: call her hearing. Hey Sarah, Sarah, Hey, Sarah, Josh said, Hi.
Speaker 1: C J says, Hi, Uh, you looked adorable on the show.
Speaker 1: You carried yourself so well. You are a stunning, smart,
Speaker 1: beautiful woman, and I look forward to seeing you on
Speaker 1: the gay Cy spinoff Spinner. I'm sure she's yeah, she's
Speaker 1: taking a trip to that to the Eiffel Tower, uh
Speaker 1: this weekend in the private jet there. All right, Garrett,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time and for being
Speaker 1: so candid. We love you and uh f boy f
Speaker 1: by all right, Garrett appreciate. Oh boy, final thought, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna ever beat this pod. I mean, this
Speaker 1: was unbelieving, Garrett. Is do you see why I like
Speaker 1: Garrett stopped coming at me about Garrett and how how
Speaker 1: could you like him? Nikki? How could you have stood
Speaker 1: there and let that happen? Did you know he was
Speaker 1: going to do that? I didn't know what. I trust Garrett.
Speaker 1: I want to be friends. I want Garrett in my
Speaker 1: life because that's hysterical. He just he just gave us
Speaker 1: stuff that he probably wasn't supposed to give. I'm honestly
Speaker 1: gonna have to check with producers to make sure that
Speaker 1: any of that stuff you can actually make it and
Speaker 1: I won't have to cut some stuff out because let's
Speaker 1: let's be honest, guys. I want to make season two
Speaker 1: because you know what. Today Season two F Boy Island
Speaker 1: was announced. It is happening. Stay tuned for all the details.
Speaker 1: But today it was announced that HBO Max has picked
Speaker 1: up F Boy Island for season two. And I just
Speaker 1: want to thank all of my besties for supporting and
Speaker 1: watching the show, reluctantly getting involved and then loving it
Speaker 1: so much. Noah, tell me the big takeaways you've had
Speaker 1: from today as being a huge fan of F Boy Island.
Speaker 1: The first thing about Garrett, Um, I think the reason
Speaker 1: why we were all kind of rooting for him and
Speaker 1: attracted to him, even though he was telling us the
Speaker 1: whole time that he is an f boy the whole
Speaker 1: time is because he is so candid and he's so
Speaker 1: honest and you just have to love that. I want
Speaker 1: to have him on again because I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to him about he was like adopted from an orphanage
Speaker 1: in Russia like he has he has, you know, when
Speaker 1: you come from first of all orphans. I don't want to,
Speaker 1: you know, say anything that didn't happen to him, because
Speaker 1: I want to get his experience, not that he remembers
Speaker 1: as a baby, but those babies don't get touched a lot.
Speaker 1: It's often that they have developmental issues later on because
Speaker 1: they don't get cuddled and touched and they they a
Speaker 1: lot of those babies end up going on reality shows
Speaker 1: and becoming the villain. I mean, honestly, Amarosa, Juan Pablo,
Speaker 1: all Russian orphans. But you know, there was something about
Speaker 1: Garrett's uh honesty with every person on the show, even
Speaker 1: him being able to say that Chris and Matt were
Speaker 1: little rats and just like staying true to that. I
Speaker 1: it's a it's a quality I have to work on
Speaker 1: about myself where I want to give everyone in front
Speaker 1: of me they want, and like, I'm such a people pleaser.
Speaker 1: I want everyone to like me, even a villain. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm working on a bit right now about how I
Speaker 1: have dreams that I'm nice to Donald Trump and I
Speaker 1: can't even when Garrett broke my girl Sarah's heart, I
Speaker 1: walked out of there that night, Remember God, I went up. Well,
Speaker 1: it was really interesting on the show because they kept
Speaker 1: me very removed from all the f boys and even
Speaker 1: the girls, like I was what you saw and camera
Speaker 1: was kind of like my only interactions with them. Except
Speaker 1: when the show ended, I was just like, fuck it,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go up to the guys and talk
Speaker 1: to them. They were all kind of corralled in this area.
Speaker 1: It was I think it was Garrett Casey. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was all the final six. Um. I actually think O G.
Speaker 1: Dared wasn't there. Um, But maybe I just didn't recognize
Speaker 1: him underneath. Uh maybe he had taken off a scarf
Speaker 1: and I couldn't recognize him one on he was wearing
Speaker 1: his own shoes, so I couldn't. I didn't know who
Speaker 1: he was. Um. But the thing I said to them,
Speaker 1: I go and they all looked like kind of shell shot.
Speaker 1: I mean it was rough that finale, as rough as
Speaker 1: what it was that what you saw, it was very
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and it lasted really a long time, and it
Speaker 1: was it was a long, long night, and um and
Speaker 1: I just went up to them and I was like, Garrett,
Speaker 1: thank you for making this show amazing. I know you
Speaker 1: just took a lot of heat, but like you're very entertaining,
Speaker 1: and thank you for that. In case you know, I
Speaker 1: went up to all of them, but I remember, um,
Speaker 1: just I remember Garrett looked really sad afterwards, like oh no,
Speaker 1: I hurt this girl. But even even though I was
Speaker 1: mad at him and I was like how could you,
Speaker 1: I was just like thanks for being you. Like without that,
Speaker 1: without Garrett, I don't know what that show would have been.
Speaker 1: We someone would have risen to, someone would have filled
Speaker 1: his shoes and it probably would have been a home
Speaker 1: che chair and he would walked off with him. I
Speaker 1: don't remember what happened with the shoe thing, but I
Speaker 1: do remember someone saying, you borrowed my shoes. Those are
Speaker 1: my shoes, and he goes, no, they're out, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: well this we have to there has to be an
Speaker 1: answer here that we could come up with right now
Speaker 1: you can't. It was just so funny. But um yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I there's something about these guys, nice guys.
Speaker 1: We just had to take them at their word. But
Speaker 1: why would you say you're an F boy if you're
Speaker 1: not a n F boy. I feel like F boys
Speaker 1: are actually the ones that are being the most honest.
Speaker 1: I mean, not to the girls on the show, because
Speaker 1: that was kind of the game. But it was interesting.
Speaker 1: When I did an interview with the I think it's
Speaker 1: coming out like today, I wanted to warn Garrett that
Speaker 1: I compared him to Trump, but I did because you
Speaker 1: why did Why did Trump win? It's because uh and
Speaker 1: why how could you like him? After the things he said,
Speaker 1: the things we've heard, like the documentation that the bed
Speaker 1: of needles, you know, the bed of nails is like
Speaker 1: you can land a bed of nails, but one would
Speaker 1: hurt or whatever. Garrett kind of had that same vibe.
Speaker 1: I don't think I would. I would much rather the
Speaker 1: country be in the hands of Garrett then Trump, because
Speaker 1: Garrett actually is like an animal lover at least, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think Trump has ever like sincerely pet and
Speaker 1: animal and had affection for it. But good Trump, you
Speaker 1: got him. Garrett actually has great Like Garrett's hair is
Speaker 1: what Trump thinks his hair looks like, Yes, it's fantastic,
Speaker 1: but it's just it's just people go, why why would
Speaker 1: this guy last on the show so long? And I go,
Speaker 1: why did Trump win? People like someone with unbridled confidence
Speaker 1: that tells you who they are, is honest all the time,
Speaker 1: insulting lee honest to people, and there's something about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Trump is not honest. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if Garrett is actually being honest, but I feel like
Speaker 1: he is. But maybe I'm just one of, you know,
Speaker 1: another pawn in his game of checkers. I'm not even
Speaker 1: gonna give it chess. I'll say checkers. We gotta go. Uh,
Speaker 1: this show is amazing. I think it's four pm now
Speaker 1: and we started at ten am. Um, what a marathon.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us for this very special f
Speaker 1: boy episode of the Nicki Glazer Podcast. We'll back tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I think the show have been as good if we
Speaker 1: did it yesterday. What do you mean? Oh no, we
Speaker 1: definitely needed I'm so glad that you booked the wrong
Speaker 1: flight two yesterday. We work out the third thing works
Speaker 1: about the baseball game last night, and Andrew gets an
Speaker 1: alert on his phone that says says, uh, you're playing
Speaker 1: a flight eight sixty two now boarding head to the gate,
Speaker 1: and we're sitting in at the Cardinals. Alright, guys, don't
Speaker 1: be cut out there, and uh,