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Speaker 2: I am Kevin Figers. He is Adam Austlin. Thank you

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Speaker 3: be here on Friday night and lead us bravely into

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Speaker 3: the new world of this weekend here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot to get into tonight, obviously, the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 2: Well underway, of course, we can ask the proverbial.

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Speaker 4: How post to the next round of the tournament? We'll

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Speaker 4: get into that here cup now. But seriously, how is it?

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Speaker 4: It could be better and also could be worse. Let

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Speaker 4: me tell you I already saw yours. Oh exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yes, if you are joining our Fox Sports Radio bracket challenge,

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Speaker 3: you're going to see mine and everybody else's brackets right

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Speaker 3: now on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Coming up later in the show, our friend Mark Medina, Fox.

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio NBA Inside are going to join us talk

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Speaker 2: about all the happenings around the NBA, K Cunningham's injury,

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Speaker 2: Luka Doncic on a major heater on both ends of

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Speaker 2: the floor, among other things around the NBA expansion has

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Speaker 2: been in the news as well. So a lot to

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Speaker 2: get to with our friend Mark Medina coming up. That'll

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Speaker 2: be in the second hour of the show.

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Speaker 4: Plus he might have rap news for us.

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Speaker 2: He texted me last week and said, Hey, willing to

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Speaker 2: come back on and talk eminem with you guys if

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Speaker 2: you want.

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Speaker 3: It's like, hey, fine, by me. That was the most

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Speaker 3: out of left field conversation. I was just kidding saying

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Speaker 3: he was my favorite eminem since Marshall Mathers LP back

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Speaker 3: in two thousand and one or whatever. Mark Medina and

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Speaker 3: they just rolled with it. And then the two of

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Speaker 3: you just kind of one back and forth dropping albums

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Speaker 3: and deep cuts and everything else.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe we'll have something else for him, shor why not?

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Speaker 4: Maybe Tupac related.

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Speaker 3: Actually I saw something earlier today on Twitter that I

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Speaker 3: think you might be interested in too. It's onto the hologram.

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Speaker 3: Is it defending Tupac's honor? That's what's about. It has

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Speaker 3: to be Chako who was attacking his honor is what

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Speaker 3: I want to know the people.

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Speaker 4: But those people are definitely the East Coasters.

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Speaker 2: Their opinions are basically fraudulent and don't need to be

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Speaker 2: taken into consideration.

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Speaker 3: Whatsoever, bigie apologist. Okay, So with that, does that mean

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Speaker 3: we have rap news coming up at the end of

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Speaker 3: this hour? Is that what that sounds like? Now we're

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Speaker 3: gonna have some geek news because I want to geek

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Speaker 3: out a little bit on the fact that I don't

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Speaker 3: want to celebrate the fact he died, but Chuck Norris

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Speaker 3: did pass today at the age of eighty six, to

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Speaker 3: a celebration of life and not necessarily celebrating the fact

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Speaker 3: that he died. I mean, come on, we'll be celebrating,

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Speaker 3: all right. You're very aware of being on the same

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Speaker 3: age as me. Kevin. Of the Chuck Norris facts, Yes,

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Speaker 3: the jokes turned facts like when Chuck Norris was born,

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Speaker 3: he carried his mother out of the hospital, stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: It's very much kind of like the most interesting man

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Speaker 2: Chuck Norris. I don't know it was, it makes sense,

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Speaker 4: I my favorite ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well, I can hold onto mine the one

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Speaker 2: that always stood out to me was Chuck Norris doesn't

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Speaker 4: He pushes the world down.

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Speaker 3: So funny. Okay, anyway, Hey, she's still here. Now that

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Speaker 3: is a good one. How about Chuck Norris is not

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Speaker 4: Betful.

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Speaker 3: I got about fifty of them perfect, so we could

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Speaker 3: at the age of eighty six, and he's a legend

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Speaker 3: to Nikon, not just for being memed to death, but

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Speaker 3: he did embrace it. So I think he would appreciate this,

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Speaker 3: Chuck Norris won a game of Connect four in three moves? Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's so two thousand and five, but I can't help myself.

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Speaker 4: These jokes were everywhere. You're gonna have a lot of these,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have many of these coming up later. Also,

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Speaker 3: people are interested in that. And there's some hot takes

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Speaker 3: from t Mac. I heard him on with Petro Some

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Speaker 3: Money yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to bite a real show Fox Sports radio

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Speaker 2: host Petros some Money.

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Speaker 3: That's right, former player and Tracy McGrady shockingly hating on

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of as an old generation player

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Speaker 2: who says, stop hating on the young guys?

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Speaker 4: Does that ever happen? The only guys stuff pretty closely?

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Speaker 3: I don't. The one guy I could think of right

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Speaker 3: now is chief Robert Parrish has been touting the virtues

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Speaker 4: Because Robert Parrish played till he was he was seventy

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Speaker 4: five years old.

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Speaker 3: I think he played till almost forty five at a

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Speaker 4: He was forty four when he retired, like he was

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Speaker 3: Charlotte, maybe his last team, next to Dell Curry, who

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Speaker 3: just had his jersey retired the other night. Okay, but

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Speaker 3: we're getting too far ahead, too far ahead of ourselves.

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Speaker 3: Al's that Brandon's block later on. But right now, First off,

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Speaker 3: that's wrong, all right, Now, you got me down the

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Speaker 3: was forty three, retired in ninety six ninety seven with

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Speaker 4: He was on that bench.

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Speaker 3: Wow, hanger on, he did the old John Sally grabbed

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Speaker 3: the end of the bench with not playing an Mitch Richmond.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, coattails. It happens. Look, he was

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Speaker 4: a key med old. I'm fine. He killed it in

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Speaker 2: And it's not like he wasn't a key member of

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Speaker 4: It was a part of it.

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Speaker 3: He's the chief, all right, Uh, speaking of the big threes, Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, did the three seed lose?

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Speaker 4: Did did any top seed lose?

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Speaker 3: This is the most uneventful two days of the tournament

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Speaker 2: That's not true because last year's was even more uneventful.

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Speaker 2: There are almost no upsets last year.

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Speaker 4: You know, I forgot about that because it was so eventful.

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Speaker 2: So this was part of the problem I had coming

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Speaker 2: into the tournament and the changing landscape of college sports.

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Speaker 2: And this is not some new narrative people have thrown

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Speaker 2: mid major teams are just not going to be equipped

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Speaker 2: big but from major mid majors can actually come up

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Speaker 3: Disgusting, disgusting, the one percent, the richer getting richer out there, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm seeing right now, Big Bank take Little Bank.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: Look, as I think Doug.

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Speaker 3: Gottlieb put out on his Twitter a little bit earlier today,

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was getting ready to say, I don't feel

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Speaker 2: like that was a Doug Gottlieb brapt lyric.

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Speaker 3: Is his is his school like an ATM In that comparison,

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Speaker 3: Big Banks, Little Banks, and then faky Bank all four

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Speaker 3: nine seeds winning against eight seeds doesn't do it for you.

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Speaker 4: No, I consider her up to upsets. What's an upset?

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Speaker 3: I guess what?

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Speaker 4: A constant losing? Fine? The high point North Carolina losing? Fine?

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Speaker 4: Did we get today? How many upsets are you looking for? Exactly?

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Speaker 4: All the upsets? Exactly?

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Speaker 3: How about duking pushed to the limit by Siena all

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Speaker 3: of all teams. That was a fake, that was that

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Speaker 3: was nothing. They were never in danger.

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Speaker 2: So Adam clearly hates college basketball and he's not jazzed

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Speaker 2: up for the NCAA tournament at all.

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Speaker 4: I didn't hate it, didn't get any till today. It's

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Speaker 4: nothing out of it whatsoever. All Right, I got a

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Speaker 4: stat for you, Kevin.

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Speaker 3: I'm listening.

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Speaker 4: I feel about these apples. Oh you can count. Good

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Speaker 4: for you, I can count.

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Speaker 3: This year's first round had thirteen of its thirty two

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Speaker 3: games decided by at least twenty points. That's the most

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we're just going to get about the crazy

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Speaker 3: All the way the tournament started, he still TCU. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So over time, come on, it was a nice seventeen seconds.

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Speaker 3: You won a nice seventeen seconds as my ex wife.

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Speaker 3: The end of that game, No, the end of that game.

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Speaker 3: That was the epitome of March madness. That I got

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Speaker 3: nostalgic watching the end of that game thinking about all

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Speaker 3: the other years where he had like ten of those

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Speaker 3: opening weekend I mean VCU North Carolina. You mentioned Grant.

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Speaker 3: There was a big comebacks one by VCU.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, TC Ohio State to kick off

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Speaker 2: the tournament on Thursday was a.

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Speaker 3: Great finish something, hey, come on, not enough today. The

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Speaker 3: best game that happened today was the Kentucky game against

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Speaker 3: Senate Clara and the fighting Steve Nashes. Yeah, and that

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Speaker 3: game was what at ten am it was? It was.

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Speaker 2: That was the first game of on Friday, I believe

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Speaker 2: everybody else Thursday and the first game on Friday was amazing.

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Speaker 3: It was clomber in time for the chalk out there

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Speaker 3: like Fantastic four.

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Speaker 2: We'll also say this too, because as much as we

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Speaker 2: love upset and I mentioned the Duke Siena matchup on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: I was a little torn. You mentioned my bracket and

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Speaker 2: I think I'm tied for like eighth place or something

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Speaker 2: right now in the fos sport.

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Speaker 3: Yeh yeah, AKA place with ten other people who are

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Speaker 3: in eighth place. Like I checked this out and I

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Speaker 3: think I'm in seventh, So maybe I have a game

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Speaker 3: on you right now. But go on, tell me about

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Speaker 3: your bracket, tell me about your philosophy, because you care

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Speaker 3: about college football during the college basketball during the regular season,

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Speaker 3: I do, I mean not.

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Speaker 4: It certainly matters, I mean obviously.

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Speaker 2: But then the problem is when you get into a

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Speaker 2: like to call, in the situations like this, they say

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Speaker 2: anything can happen. Look, Duke, if they play Sienna ten times,

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Speaker 2: Duke is gonna win nine and a half times. But

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Speaker 3: It's not an enjoyable game, but everything is enjoyable in

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Speaker 4: The refs are bad. A lot of coaching is really bad.

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Speaker 3: That's what he said.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. It's easy to be a casual and

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Speaker 3: You got to foul.

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Speaker 3: In that situation, been college kids or they all worried

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Speaker 3: Huh, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's not esthetically pleasing a lot of times because the

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Speaker 3: The alia two to three zone. You can play and

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Speaker 2: And it's the equalizer for teams who aren't as talented

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Speaker 3: The coaches are often the stars, and to speak to that,

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Speaker 2: He's not ready, he says. That's what that's like a

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Speaker 2: because this is back to back years. You've lost in

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Speaker 3: You can't do it.

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Speaker 4: Hubert.

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Speaker 3: He was the first to take over after Roy Williams. Right,

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Speaker 4: Came straight out of the now to booth with ESPN.

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Speaker 3: They have put a lot into him and he's getting

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Speaker 4: One thousand and I love tom Izzo.

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Speaker 3: He's been riding at matteen Cleves two team for twenty

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Speaker 4: That's a long time. I have not won a championship

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Speaker 4: since then. It was he and Cleves has no hair

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Speaker 4: anymore now he had no hair about three years out

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Speaker 2: But still it was like my man who was at

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Speaker 4: Beeheim, You said bowten in Florida State, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Bay Orange boy Beyhei won won national championship after being

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Speaker 2: the great coaches. Now, look, we talk about the randomness

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Speaker 4: Did Bill Sell finally win a few years ago?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Bill self has a couple. Bill self has a couple.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he got lucky with Mario Chalmers.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't a lucky shot. I mean Mario Chalmers,

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean whether or not we can talk about Memphis

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Speaker 3: our players made plays and theirs didn't.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna pull a shack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Who criticized the Lakers heavily the other night after

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Speaker 4: You can't be down by you're gonna be up by fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you were up by fifteen, you were losing by

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Speaker 2: they were losing by seven.

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Speaker 3: But it was a little bit fluky with the Austin

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Speaker 3: Reeves surely missed free throw where he got it back

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Speaker 3: and got the bucket. I'm just saying that's probably not

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Speaker 3: that repeat eatable. But I agree Shack's an idiot.

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Speaker 4: And I never said that, by the way, that was

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Speaker 3: I'm a dumbass. Like I'm just saying, Kansas got a

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Speaker 4: So Adam clearly not into the NCAA tournament. I want

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Speaker 3: I'm all for it.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to know how I filled up my

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Speaker 3: Full disclosure? I won the bracket challenge at AM five

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Speaker 3: seventy like eight years ago, and nobody said anything to me.

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Speaker 4: Nobody congratulated me. I was a big win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty simple.

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Speaker 6: I win.

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Speaker 3: Thankfully. You're clearly over it now too, so I'm not

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Speaker 3: over it. It happened eight years to the day. No,

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Speaker 3: I'm still upset about that. And then every says, Adam,

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Speaker 3: it's a little late. Kevin, Okay, what do.

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Speaker 4: You want from eight years ago?

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Speaker 3: Mark?

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Speaker 4: What does he want for me right now? I'm not

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Speaker 4: giving him enough credit? Then I finally give him credit.

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Speaker 3: If you really cared, you'd build a time and sine,

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Speaker 3: just like an X, where are my ex girlfriends?

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Speaker 4: Nothing works for you? This isn't gonna work.

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Speaker 3: Well this might.

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Speaker 4: You know what I did with my bracket this year?

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Speaker 3: What do you got? I took all favorites all the

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Speaker 1: Who winning pop quiz hot shot?

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Speaker 3: Imagine Arizona Duke Okay, the number one overall over Arizona

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Speaker 3: so we'll see how you mean the opposite. You're taking

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Speaker 3: Arizona beating Duke in the championship came because you'd be

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Speaker 4: Take all underdogs. That would not be a smart play. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so you got Arizona Overduke. I did have high point

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Speaker 4: well you want you want to pat on the back here, Kevin? Yes,

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Speaker 4: you want what I didn't get?

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you.

443
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Speaker 4: Eight years ago.

444
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Speaker 3: I I think this is I'm doing this for science.

445
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Speaker 3: Everybody else is doing brackets for themselves. Yes, science, I'm

446
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Speaker 3: doing this for science. I want to see what happens.

447
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,920
Speaker 3: Because most people love the underdog. Oh I got this

448
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Speaker 3: twelve beating the five. I had Wisconsin losing. Everybody wants

449
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Speaker 3: to brag about that, but I want to see what

450
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Speaker 3: happens brought it up. I know there's a brag, not

451
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Speaker 3: even a humble brag.

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Speaker 4: Everybody wants to loud the underdogs, and that's why we

453
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Speaker 4: watched the tournament.

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Speaker 3: But what if it's like South Florida to win too,

455
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Speaker 3: someone was crazy enough to win two games, actually.

456
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Speaker 4: Nuts enough.

457
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Speaker 3: To just take all favorites the entire way. That's what

458
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Speaker 3: we're about to find out. It seems pretty predictable and unfun,

459
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Speaker 3: but sure.

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Speaker 4: It's not predictable because the tournament is so unpredictable.

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Speaker 3: So if I'm taking all favorites, no, I'm saying it's

462
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Speaker 3: it's a predictable thing.

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Speaker 2: It's it's almost something that a novice would do, is

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Speaker 2: like take all the favorites.

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Speaker 4: How dare you saying? You're calling me a neophyte novice?

466
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Speaker 4: And it's kind of not the way it's shaping up

467
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Speaker 4: that you got a lot of nerves season. Just because

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Speaker 4: I haven't watched one full quarter of college basketball all

469
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Speaker 4: regular season does not make me a novice. Kevin, he

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Speaker 4: doesn't You got a hell?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, Luca Dodging and the Lakers are

472
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Speaker 2: putting all their opponents in hell this past couple.

473
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Speaker 4: Of weeks, including me. It is unbelievable to run that

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Speaker 4: they are on.

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Speaker 2: But are they true contenders in the Western Conference despite

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Speaker 2: their dynamus run these last ten days or so?

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that coming up next here.

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Speaker 3: to every segment because Jason Smith did it, or at

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Speaker 3: least he did the last segment that I heard of

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 4: A Chuck Norris quote. A Chuck Norris quote going in fact,

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Speaker 4: a fact, this is this is not a joke.

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Speaker 1: Is a fact.

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Speaker 3: I don't know whether you know or not. Chuck Norris

509
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Speaker 3: actually died ten years ago. Death was just working up

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Speaker 3: the courage to tell him. They don't get old. To

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Speaker 3: be honest with you, that's the crazy part.

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Speaker 4: Chuck Norris can gargle peanut butter is that strong?

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Speaker 3: More on this coming up in geek News. But uh,

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Speaker 3: unfortunately the Lakers look pretty strong right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Was that the old bleep what are we going to do?

517
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Speaker 6: Now?

518
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Speaker 3: Was that the rest of the NBA talking about Luka

519
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Speaker 3: Dancik and the Lakers? Yeah, well that is from Transformers

520
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 3: the movie in nineteen eighty six, and it's Bumblebee and

521
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Speaker 3: Spike swearing because they're about to be eaten by another planet.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how I feel right now. Definitely.

524
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Speaker 2: I don't want Luke Lukadancik put in a lot of

525
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Speaker 2: work this fast offseason to lose weight. I don't want

526
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Speaker 2: him to show they'll get some big eyes and look

527
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Speaker 2: at trying to eat Nicola Yokich and shave Yodas Alexander

528
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Speaker 2: or something, you know, like.

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Speaker 3: He has gained some ways. How many games left the

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Speaker 3: in San Antonio?

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Speaker 2: I don't think they have any in the regular season,

532
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Speaker 2: big old women down there, because I point that out

533
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Speaker 2: because right now the Lakers have a strangleholding the three

534
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Speaker 2: seed in the Western Conference. Definitely not going to catch

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Speaker 2: San Antonio for the two, but because of victories over Houston,

536
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Speaker 2: two of them, one with Houston being full strength, one

537
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Speaker 2: without Apper and Shug Shingoun. They get a victory over

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Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves. They get a victory over the New

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Speaker 2: York Knicks. They get a victory over the Denver Nuggets.

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Speaker 4: Stop please stop, Okay, then I won't mention the Chicago

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Speaker 4: Bulls and the Indiana Pacers.

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Speaker 3: Then oh, in Houston twice, and yeah, I the Miami

543
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Speaker 3: win on the second night of a back to back

544
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Speaker 3: where Luca dropped sixty.

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Speaker 2: Well, they were all listed as questionable, by the way,

546
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Speaker 2: that all the and then Austin Reeves said, well, Lebron

547
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Speaker 2: said he was playing. So I can't not play if

548
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Speaker 2: a forty one year old with arthritis in his foot

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Speaker 2: is playing, I can't. I can't say I'm not gonna

550
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Speaker 2: suit up, by the way, So you tell me as

551
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Speaker 2: an objective observer objective huh. So BAM's eighty three versus

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Speaker 2: Lucas sixty, which was more impressive.

553
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Speaker 3: Full disclosure, I didn't want to watch all of Lucas

554
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Speaker 3: sixty and had a Clippers game going. It discussed you

555
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Speaker 3: exact same time. I didn't want to simulcast.

556
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Speaker 4: That absolutely disgusted you.

557
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Speaker 3: It was probably Lucas because of the tough shot making

558
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Speaker 3: out there. But I don't know. There is something to

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Speaker 3: the energy aspect of Bam having eighty three. That's the

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Speaker 3: one thing Kobe said, like, to do it, you have

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Speaker 3: to be in great shape, which I know he was

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Speaker 3: patting himself on the back.

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Speaker 4: That's fine, he's right. He was right, and Bam did

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Speaker 4: it forty eight, forty nine free throws or whatever it was,

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Speaker 4: it was forty three.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 4: Well, they were trying everything out there.

568
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Speaker 3: They double team, they triple team, they fouled other guys

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Speaker 3: so he wouldn't get the ball to be able to

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Speaker 3: score out there. I don't begrudge Bam getting eighty three

571
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Speaker 3: at all. Lucas might be more impressive. I think Bam

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Speaker 3: said postgame something like, hey, you got sixty. That tells

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Speaker 3: you how hard it is to get eighty.

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Speaker 8: Huh.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, got a lot of them on Bam,

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Speaker 2: who was one of the better switch bigs in the

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Speaker 2: entire league when it comes to defending on the perimeter.

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Speaker 2: So over his past eight games, Luka Dancik forty one points,

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Speaker 2: nine rebounds, seven assists, four stocks, which if you don't

580
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Speaker 2: know what that means, it's a combination of steals and blocks.

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Speaker 2: Shooting fifty percent from the field and forty two percent

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Speaker 2: from three.

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Speaker 4: That is otherworldly, it is.

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Speaker 3: And the Lakers are eight to no in those eight

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Speaker 3: games against high level competition, which is what we were

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Speaker 3: killing them for not doing early on this season, where

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Speaker 3: I think they started four to twelve against teams with

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Speaker 3: a six hundred win percentage and they were well under

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Speaker 3: also five hundred against teams over five hundred. They looked

590
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Speaker 3: like frauds. They looked like a team that was loading

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Speaker 3: up against the cream puffs and also getting a little

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Speaker 3: bit lucky late in games. With their clutch stats and

593
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Speaker 3: their clutch rating where there's something like thirteen to three

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Speaker 3: to start off this season.

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Speaker 2: That will say in some of these victories we talked

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Speaker 2: about Denver, couple of the Houston games, these have been

597
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Speaker 2: clutch situations and they found ways to make plays. You

598
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Speaker 2: mentioned the Austin Reeves with the fluky you know, miss

599
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Speaker 2: free throw, all the misfree throw intentionally and all that, sure,

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Speaker 2: but you take wins how you can get him against

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Speaker 2: a quality opponent and you blew a fifteen point lead,

602
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Speaker 2: you were down by seven with three minutes left in

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Speaker 2: that game, and found the way he came back to

604
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Speaker 2: come back and win.

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Speaker 3: I don't think a fifteen point lead is anything in

606
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Speaker 3: today's league. That's what I would tell you all back

607
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Speaker 3: this last week when it came to three pointers, Are

608
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Speaker 3: you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: That's nothing? You are two minutes away from losing that lead.

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Speaker 2: I understand to a certain degree what he means now,

611
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Speaker 2: but it also usually applies when you're playing really inferior opponents,

612
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Speaker 2: not one of the best teams in the league. You know,

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Speaker 2: if you're playing Washington and you blow, you should take

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Speaker 2: a fifteen point lead in the first quarter and double

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Speaker 2: that and make that thirty at halftime.

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Speaker 3: That's what I would agree with. Beth tried to bring

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Speaker 3: up to him immediately, but he still couldn't lead him the.

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Speaker 4: Water like Shack. He's just such a hard ass.

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Speaker 3: Everything was better back in my day. No, you have

620
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Speaker 3: to have a higher standard out there. You didn't have

621
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Speaker 3: the higher standards or else you would have averaged sixteen

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Speaker 3: boards per game in.

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Speaker 2: Your career and Kobe wouldn't have basically forced you out

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Speaker 2: of the door because you were out of shape and

625
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Speaker 2: didn't work hard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, feast, that's by the way.

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Speaker 2: Talking about just Lucas Pacific, well's talk about the Lakers

628
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Speaker 2: and why they've turned the corner. I think it's one

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Speaker 2: thing that's being omitted, but he's actually putting in a

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Speaker 2: lot of effort on the defensive end that I think

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Speaker 2: shouldn't get lost.

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Speaker 4: And this is something that Kelly Echo of Yahoo Uh we.

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Speaker 2: Really produce some advances, some advanced metrics showing that Luca

634
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: not only improved defensively, but he's around the same level

635
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: as guys like Aman Thompson, Jade McDaniels, Og Nanobi. When

636
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: it comes to points allowed in isolation situations. That's impressive.

637
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: And this is not being hitten or being moved around.

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Speaker 3: This is when you are one on one as a

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Speaker 3: defender against the guy and he pulls up or tries

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Speaker 3: to cross you over.

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Speaker 4: This is how you're performing. And he's allowing point eight

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00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: points per game. He's third in steals in the month

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Speaker 4: of March. I can't believe this. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Look, Luca put it in the work this past offseason.

645
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: He obviously turned down. Maybe he's gained five or ten

646
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: pounds back, but whatever, he's still in tremendous shape and

647
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: playing his best basketball towards the end of the season.

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00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: I do want to give myself some credit because I

649
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: know nobody else is gonna do it. Here depends on

650
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 3: what you giving yourself credit on. So when you brought

651
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: me on with Rogan and Rodney last week, while I

652
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: was trashing the Lakers a little bit and saying, well,

653
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: the numbers say that Lebron doesn't work very well with

654
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: Luca and Austin Reeves and that threesome or that trio,

655
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 3: that three man lineup data isn't very favorable, I did

656
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Speaker 3: say at the very end of the conversation. But who knows.

657
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Speaker 4: Things can change very quickly. DeAndre Ayden could buy in Lebron,

658
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Speaker 4: James could sacrifice, and you know what happened. Like just that,

659
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Speaker 4: I feel like you said that tongue firmly planted in cheek.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know, especially when it came to DeAndre Ayden,

661
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Speaker 2: who had a revelation over the past week or so

662
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Speaker 2: and said, now now I know what my role is.

663
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Speaker 3: Didn't you know what your role was when you got here?

664
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Speaker 3: He was literally said it at his introductory press conference.

665
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Speaker 3: I'm here to do the dirty work. The part that

666
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Speaker 3: I don't understand. How are you now just fitting into?

667
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: Everybody else was ready and I wasn't. Now I'm finally

668
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: falling in line.

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Speaker 2: YEA Like, did you feel like you were just going

670
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Speaker 2: to come in and because of all of your great,

671
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: immense talent and a bill, you were going to convince

672
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: them that you should play a bigger role. So you

673
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: told them what they wanted to hear coming in, and

674
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: you thought you were going to change their minds. We

675
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Speaker 2: know what you are man like with all due respect.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he thinks, well, now, you know what,

677
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 3: if we make it to the second round or make

678
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Speaker 3: a real run to the Western Conference finals, and I'm

679
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: a big part of that, I can opt out of

680
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: the eight million dollars for next season and make more

681
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: money because I'm buying in and being a good teammate now,

682
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: and you know I've changed my stripes. If that were true,

683
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: that'd be great, sure, because quite not, he can make

684
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: just as much money if he was a pick and

685
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Speaker 3: roll lob Threat who played defense.

686
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Speaker 4: Then if you click Capella, you meet a player like that.

687
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, the guy he was so upset that he

688
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: was compared to. That's the guy you want to be

689
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: for this team specifically, that's what you should want to be.

690
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: And then Lebron James. With Austin Reeves and Lebron James,

691
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: the sample size was just so small. They never as

692
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Speaker 2: bad as the numbers were. They had played what ten, twelve,

693
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Speaker 2: thirteen games together and in so many different MAC nations,

694
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: you know, as far as I mean, Lebron James missed

695
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: all of training camp, so he had to get reindoctrinated

696
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Speaker 2: into the lineup, and then by the time he got back, Austin.

697
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Speaker 3: Reeves was hurt.

698
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Speaker 2: There's just was never really any true continuity for a

699
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: large enough sample size for them to actually figure anything out.

700
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: You know, teams don't practice during the season, so you

701
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: missed an entire training camp and have all these different

702
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: moving parts. Now that they actually have some continuity and

703
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: have time to play together and fill out figure out

704
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: exactly what their optimal roles are, I'm still surprised, to

705
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: be honest with you, they're playing as well as they're playing,

706
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Speaker 2: especially defensively.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, come to read their limitations. Having said all that,

708
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Speaker 4: I'm still pretty surprised.

709
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Speaker 2: I would give JJ Reddick credit for figuring that part out,

710
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: and I don't think he's getting enough. And Melissa Rowland

711
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: of the California Post did a nice ride up on

712
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: that on Friday, talking about how little credit JJ Redick

713
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Speaker 2: is getting.

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Speaker 3: Well.

715
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Speaker 4: Petro said, like a week ago, back to first take

716
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Speaker 4: for JJ Reddick.

717
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Speaker 3: I guess we're trying to bite a real show, not quite,

718
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: and Lebron James can't adjust. He always has to be

719
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: the star and he's too selfish and it can't work.

720
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Speaker 4: Well, guess what it is working now? Doesn't look like

721
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: they're better without Lebron James anymore.

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00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: Heins way hitting eighty percent of his field goals. The

723
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Speaker 2: last couple of games or whatever it's been.

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Speaker 4: Did you have a twelve or thirteen game or was

725
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 4: it thirteen or fourteen?

726
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: It was thirteen of fourteen and the one that he

727
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: missed was a foul that didn't get called.

728
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Speaker 4: My god, if it amazes you don't know anything about basketball.

729
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: I know a little bit about basketball, and that's insane.

730
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: He also had the third longest dunk, meaning he jumped

731
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Speaker 3: from eleven feet out on a dunk of anyone this

732
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Speaker 3: season at the age of forty one.

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Speaker 4: Oh and by the way oth ridick foot and a

734
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Speaker 4: bumped shoulder, by the way elbow.

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Speaker 3: The three team or the three man lineup data now

736
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Speaker 3: with Luca Lebron and Austin Reeves on the floor, uh huh,

737
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: they have an offensive rating of one hundred and thirty

738
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Speaker 3: one over these eight games.

739
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: Where they're eight to no fire.

740
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: I don't think that's bad.

741
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 4: It's not sustainable.

742
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: But the one thing I always said about the Lakers

743
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 3: for them to really get in the mix was the

744
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: one thing. But it's two prongs, so it's like two things.

745
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: Understand a party part A have a top three offense

746
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: in the league, which they should based on talent and

747
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: personnel out there, and guys who a favor offense.

748
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: They've been hovering in the top five in most categories.

749
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: And again this is without being having the top three

750
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: together the majority of the season, right.

751
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 4: But now they're really going nuclear out there. Yep, maybe

752
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Speaker 4: portrait orsa wards.

753
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: So defensively right now over this span, they're twelveth So

754
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: if you're around average defensively and you have a top

755
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: three offense. Yes, they can breakthrough and be a contender.

756
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're better than Oklahoma City when they're

757
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: healthy and ready to go. Maybe not even San Antonio,

758
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: maybe not even Denver, but they're close enough. Or if

759
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: you get a few breaks, who knows who's banged up,

760
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: I mean Oklahoma City. People don't realize this, but when

761
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: you look at ten man rotations and the guys who

762
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: are playing the majority of minutes of the top six

763
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: seeds in the Western Conference, nobody has had more guys

764
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: miss games than okay See so far this season. And

765
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: despite that, look at their record. So they're actually better,

766
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: most likely than what we have seen so far. Actually,

767
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: so maybe there is more of a gap between them

768
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: and everyone else than we realize, just because well, chet

769
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: holmgrens miss games and Jadubb has missed half thet of

770
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: games and Sga has missed ten twelve games. But still

771
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: the Lakers are in the conversation. I'm sorry, Charles, you

772
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: can stop. I don't want to hear. It's a bit

773
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 3: with you up trying to upset and troll and tweak

774
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: Laker fans by always saying they're not a contender. When

775
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: a team is playing that well for this long now

776
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: and they have this level of talent, I think you

777
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: have to include them, even if they're like a second

778
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: tier not inner inner circle team, but they're they're pretty

779
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: close to the way they're playing right now.

780
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: I mean the way that they're playing at this moment

781
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: in time, Like I mean a month and a half ago,

782
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: you'd say they're not beating Minnesota in the seven game series,

783
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: and I've been in Houston seven game series.

784
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: I might have said against Houston because I've been so

785
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 3: hard on them.

786
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 4: Dave Ashley, Yeah, they've they've regressed.

787
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: How do you lose Fred van Vliet, have a trade

788
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: deadline pass and never get a guard.

789
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: They lost family before the season started, by the way

790
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: the entire and losing Steven Adams obviously didn't help defensively.

791
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: But they can beat Minnesota, they beat Houston.

792
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: Denver will be favored, but I don't I think they'd

793
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: have a puncher's chance against Denver in a seven game series.

794
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: Their record against Denver since they got Lucas something like

795
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: six and two.

796
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really the for them for sure. So they've

797
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: tried to have a problem. Yeah, Yeah, and you always

798
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 4: have you got a Kevin problem at the moment?

799
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: Damn straight?

800
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Speaker 4: What's coming up next?

801
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: Up next in geek News, we will pay homage to

802
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: the great Chuck Norris by giving out some of the

803
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: best fun facts and jokes regarding Chuck Norris of all time.

804
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: I have curated a list. I've put together the best

805
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Speaker 4: of the best.

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Speaker 1: Here.

807
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Speaker 4: We'll get to him next here.

808
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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports really? Go radio? Do we

809
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: look like a three dummiest guys in the world to you?

810
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: F and A Cotton?

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Speaker 2: That's right, Kevin figures Adam Allison back with you, guys.

812
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Speaker 2: Fn A on FSR coming up about ten minutes or

813
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 2: so from now, Mark Medeena, Fox Sports Radio, NBA Insidner

814
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: gotta hop on, talk about the red hot Lakers, talk

815
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: about the playoff races that we come down to, the

816
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: final twelve thirteen games of the regular season, and NBA expansion,

817
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: which has been in the news this past week.

818
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Speaker 4: Nurse, what's a You're playing D and D tonight? I

819
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 4: want to come cases. What's up guysse We're all will

820
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Speaker 4: be chills.

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Speaker 3: That I've been chining online with faves all day.

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Speaker 8: Just keep a power plus off our passion right, who

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Speaker 8: say kendln Yes.

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Speaker 4: Chuck Norris died at the age of eighty six today.

825
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: He was an American icon. It may have been in

826
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: a lot of popcorn movies, but those weren't popcorn muscles.

827
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Speaker 3: He was. It's a six time world champion in full

828
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: contact bare knuckle karate, so I think people didn't really

829
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: know about him than just an actor. He held a

830
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: record of one hundred and eighty three and ten and

831
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Speaker 3: two draws.

832
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 4: I would have taken a draw. Imagine those cats. The

833
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 4: ten people that beat him. One was Bruce Lee, but

834
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: that was just on film. That was fake.

835
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Speaker 3: He went on to be in Delta Force, Missing and Missing,

836
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 3: an Action Invasion USA he fought Bruce Lee, and Way

837
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: of the Dragon, where he showed off more chest hair

838
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 3: than a Wookie. He was in one of my favorite

839
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 3: nineties movies, Sidekicks, with the late Jonathan Brandis. And of course,

840
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: yes he was pumping iron on the total gym before

841
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: every fight scene in Walker, Texas Ranger, which had over

842
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: two hundred episodes. Then in the mid two thousands, we

843
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: started turning him into a kind of meme before we

844
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: knew what memes really were. Old legendary tales of how

845
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: Chuck Norris was the baddest man on the planet and

846
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 3: he got wise to it. He thought it was funny.

847
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: In fact, he made a joke of it in Expendables too,

848
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 3: even that one about the cobra. But he passed today.

849
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 3: And so here's some of the best of the Chuck

850
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: Norris jokes or sorry facts. Uh, here are some of

851
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 3: my favorites. Like this, as you know, uh, Chuck Norris

852
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: can dribble a bowling ball. When God said let there

853
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: be light, Chuck Norris said, say please, this is I

854
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: don't know, you know, I gotta said, Chuck Norris's tears

855
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: cure cancer. Too bad, He's never cried. Wow, Chuck Norris

856
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 3: deleted the recycle bin on your operating system.

857
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: He figured out a way.

858
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 3: You know, when Chuck Norris laughed softly, he was the first,

859
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: and since then laughing softly was known as chuckling. When

860
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: Chuck Norris goes camping, this one's good. When Chuck Norris

861
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 3: goes camping, bears hide their food. One time, Chuck Norris

862
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: parallel parked a train. Chuck Norris once managed to block

863
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: a punch. He threw it himself with the same hand

864
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: once he won a chess tournament using Uno cards. When

865
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 3: Chuck Norris was born, he named his father Chuck Norris Junior.

866
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: Many think it's a feat to go down Niagara Falls

867
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: in a barrel, Chuck Norris, he went up in a

868
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: cardboard box?

869
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 4: Or who made all these up?

870
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: And obviously it's probably just the conglomoration of a bunch

871
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: of different people throughout the years.

872
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 4: But if it came out nowadays, we just say it's

873
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: AI right, No, this is real.

874
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: Chuck Norris. He never calls the wrong number, You answer

875
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: the wrong phone, right, that's the old Steve Hartman. My

876
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: prediction wasn't wrong. It seem just didn't perform the way

877
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: they were supposed to. Did you know there's no chin

878
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: behind Chuck Norris's beard, There's only another fist.

879
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: I think Family Guy did a joke about that.

880
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Speaker 3: Netflix pays for a Chuck Norris subscription. Chuck Norris doesn't

881
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: turn on the shower. He stares at it until the

882
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: shower cries. If you want a list of Chuck Norris's enemies,

883
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Speaker 3: just check the extinct species list. Does you know what

884
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: Chuck Norris can do? A wheelie on a unicycle? Jesus

885
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: can walk on water, but Chuck Norris can whim through land.

886
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Speaker 4: Something tells you you're not even a quarter of the

887
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Speaker 4: way through this list.

888
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 3: Chuck Norris never retreats, He just attacks in the opposite direction.

889
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: Once Chuck Norris threw a grenade and killed twenty one people,

890
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: then the grenade exploded.

891
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: In school teachers, they raised their hands to speak to him.

892
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 4: When Chuck Norris attended a feminist rally, he came back

893
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 4: with his shirt ironed and a sandwich in his hand.

894
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 3: Yikes. Chuck Norris likes his meats rare. He only eats unicorns.

895
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: He plays Russian Roulette with a bolt action rifle of

896
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: wins every time Chuck Norris can build a snowman out

897
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Speaker 3: of rain. Mark Medina joins us next to Doc NBA

898
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: More Lakers, Really f and A on FSR.

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday with Kevin Fingers and Adam Alten. Hit us

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00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: up on x I Kfig one and at follow Adam A.

901
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Speaker 2: If you guys want to chime in with your own

902
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Speaker 2: Chuck Norris isms or whatever you want to call them,

903
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: you can hit us up on the socials and let

904
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Speaker 2: us know what's on your mind.

905
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 3: Kevin did you know Chuck Norris and Superman once fought

906
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 3: the loser had to wear their underwear on the outside

907
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 3: of their pants.

908
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: Think we know who that was? Think we know who

909
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 4: that was? Yes?

910
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Speaker 6: We do.

911
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: Did you know Chuck Norris's parents went to his room

912
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 4: when they had a bad dream?

913
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Speaker 2: So dumb, but so good, ikfig one and that follow anime.

914
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Speaker 2: If you have some more of those that you'd like

915
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Speaker 2: to contribute and let us know here on the show.

916
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Speaker 4: All right, let's get to him Alan drinking did thank you?

917
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 4: Gunny well join the show for the first time in

918
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: like a month.

919
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: Is our old buddy my favorite Eminem since they introduced

920
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: the peanut butter. Eminem's not just the peanut. Eminem's the

921
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: peanut butter. With that creamy peanut butter. I can care

922
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 3: less about the caramel, the mint, the pretzel, whatever they

923
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 3: got now, but those are still special in that off

924
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 3: red kind of oranges package.

925
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: So is this guy's package.

926
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Speaker 3: No Mark Medina joining us so NBA expert and rap expert.

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Speaker 3: Mark My first question for you, Actually, I saw this

928
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Speaker 3: a little bit earlier today and it made me think

929
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Speaker 3: of you coming on tonight.

930
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Speaker 4: It's not Eminem related. It is Tupac related.

931
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: Somebody was calling out All Eyes on Me, the double

932
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: disc album from nineteen ninety five or whatever when he

933
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: first got out of jail, and say there you go

934
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: there now that's fair, that's fair. Now, Mark, has that

935
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 3: album aged poorly? Because somebody said that on Joe Buden's show,

936
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: and he literally just started playing track by track and saying,

937
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: this hasn't aged poorly at all.

938
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Speaker 4: This is perfect.

939
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Speaker 9: No, no, it's an enduring classic. It's arguably the best

940
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 9: hip hop album of all time. I mean, clearly, any

941
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Speaker 9: rap music by age poorly if you take offense to

942
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 9: the lyrics, production value, and and everything else. Now, who

943
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 9: said that All Eyes on Me is trash?

944
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: Someone whose opinion is not valid. It never should be

945
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: allowed on another show talking about rap.

946
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Speaker 4: Who was this?

947
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 3: You know the name of this pirtok Mark I wasn't

948
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Speaker 3: aware of this at all. It was one of his

949
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Speaker 3: side guests, co host guys in the background that popped out.

950
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Speaker 4: How was like somebody trying to get some clout. Yeah,

951
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: I don't know what trying to get us to talk

952
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: about him is what it is?

953
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Speaker 9: How about this for a hot take and time? Eminem

954
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 9: back in, I think the last time we're on the show,

955
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 9: it looked like the Lakers were playing like it's a

956
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Speaker 9: revival album and now it's music to be murdered by.

957
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Speaker 1: What is that?

958
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: Well done? Yes?

959
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 8: Not bad.

960
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Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about those Lakers and Luka Doncic, who

961
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: has gone just absolutely I think one person put it

962
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: online he's gone super saying the past eight games, with

963
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Speaker 2: the numbers that he's putting up, are you are you

964
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: surprised that the surge the Lakers have made of late

965
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: seemingly Uh. I can't say out of nowhere, because they

966
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: are getting some newity back with the Big three finally

967
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: playing together with a sizeable amount of games. But for

968
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: Luca to be playing the way that he's playing, for

969
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Speaker 2: the Lakers to be beating the teams that are ahead

970
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Speaker 2: of them in the standings, it's pretty impressive.

971
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Speaker 9: Yeah, here's where I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised that

972
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 9: Luca taking his game up to another notch. I'm not

973
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 9: surprised with Lebron James accepting and thriving well as a

974
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 9: third option or second option sometimes fourth. Here's where I

975
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 9: am surprised. You're seeing DeAndre aid and play at a

976
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 9: much more consistent level. You're seeing the Lakers actually playing

977
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Speaker 9: defense and doing it pretty well. Those are two things

978
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Speaker 9: I didn't think we're sustainable so far it is, And

979
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 9: so what this means, Yeah, they're a team that you

980
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 9: don't want to meet in the playoffs. I don't put

981
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 9: them in contending status yet. I still think that Oklahoma

982
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 9: City's under stan Antonio Spurs deserved that honor. But they

983
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 9: are at least getting to the second round, and they're

984
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Speaker 9: going to be a tough playoff out no matter who

985
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Speaker 9: they faced the postseason.

986
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Speaker 3: Mark Medina is our guest here on F and A

987
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: on FSR late night on Fox Sports Radio, Mark, what

988
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: about the adjustment from Lebron James. Many have what I

989
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: call Lebron derangement syndrome, the dreaded LDS where they hate

990
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 3: on him for everything and they always try to blame him.

991
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: But a lot of people that were saying they're better

992
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 3: off without him have all of a sudden gone very quiet,

993
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 3: and it looks like he is adjusting to being maybe

994
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: the third option.

995
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, well I think that Trump or not Trump yet,

996
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 9: that's a whole other thing. Lebron derangement syndrome. Yeah, you're

997
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 9: probably seeing that to skip Bayliss. There's some people in

998
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 9: ESPN who do it, and I think it's a simplistic thing.

999
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 9: They're not better off without Lebron James, but the numbers

1000
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 9: were the numbers that they are performing better without Lebron James,

1001
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 9: and that's only because they didn't have a lot of

1002
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 9: time on the floor. Lebron miss his first fourteen games

1003
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Speaker 9: with the Sky Attic Andrew they come back, they're trying

1004
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 9: to get continuity chemistry to make up for lost time

1005
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 9: with no training camp or games to the other and

1006
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 9: then all of a sudden, Austin Reeves has a calf

1007
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 9: injury for nineteen games after the Christmas Day slate against you.

1008
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Speaker 9: So I think the other thing is even though that

1009
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 9: limited on core time together, showed that they are willing

1010
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 9: to sacrifice the roles and they have reasonable chemistry. They

1011
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 9: weren't a great defensive team. Lebron didn't really show much

1012
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 9: on defense. But I think what's different here they're all

1013
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 9: playing the best versions of themselves as a trio. You're

1014
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 9: seeing better defense with Lebron, but I think the bigger

1015
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 9: thing is you're seeing more consistency with their three point shooting.

1016
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 9: DeAndre Aiden's play and their defense, so it allows them

1017
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Speaker 9: to do concentrate on what they do best, and that

1018
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 9: so far with Luca, Lebron and Austin scoring the basketball

1019
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 9: and running the offense.

1020
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: Mark Medina joining us here FNA on FSR. He is

1021
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: a Fox Sports Radio NBA insider. We had a mini

1022
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: debate last week about whether or not Luka danci should

1023
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: be in the conversation in the MVP race, so we

1024
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: ultimately decided he's probably not going to end up winning it.

1025
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: But I look at the odds now he's all of

1026
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: a sudden jumped up at many sports books to being

1027
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: second behind shake Yogis Alexander after this heater he's been on.

1028
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: I still think it's unlikely that he wins it, but

1029
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: the Lakers do play Oklahoma City twice down the stretch.

1030
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Speaker 3: Of the regular season.

1031
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: We've seen votes flip in the past based on single

1032
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 2: performances against great teams.

1033
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you have a voter or not, Mark,

1034
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: but do you think that.

1035
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: It's possible to Luka Doncik could potentially in some way

1036
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: find a way to Ed Shay and even Yokichen Wimby

1037
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: and find a way to win the MVP award if

1038
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: the Lakers continue this hot streak to end the season.

1039
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 9: I don't think he wins the MVP Award, but he

1040
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 9: has entered the group chat. You know, Kate Cunningham, he's

1041
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 9: out because of unfortunate injuries here, so Luca climbs up there.

1042
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 9: It's even though Luca is playing out of his mind

1043
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 9: and he deserves the MVP accolades, it's hard for me

1044
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 9: to see him supplying. Shay gellis ours enter because he's

1045
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 9: been playing out of his mind. Leading the Leak in

1046
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 9: scoring for the season, the Thunder obviously first in the West.

1047
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 9: The other thing is the Thunder have had overlapping injuries

1048
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 9: Shaye included will When Shae is on the court, he

1049
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 9: has made up for it, so that I think is

1050
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 9: in his favor. I could see Luca jumping over Nikole

1051
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 9: Jokic because even though he's been playing really well, the

1052
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 9: Nuggets have been on a slide. They have injuries outside

1053
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 9: of Jokic and Jamal Murray. But when you're the best player,

1054
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 9: sometimes you should are expected to be able to overcome that.

1055
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 9: But Victor One Binyama's playing at all time level. They're

1056
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 9: second in the West. This Boston Celtics with Jalen Brown.

1057
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 9: I mean, they've been championship contention status even though they

1058
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 9: lost Jason Tatum for most of the season until you know,

1059
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 9: the last few weeks unexpectedly, and then you know them

1060
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 9: trading Drew Holliday and chrisos Worzingis. So with all that,

1061
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 9: I think the best case scenario is that he finishes

1062
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 9: in third place behind Shae Go, Alexander, fourth place behind

1063
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 9: Shay Go, just Alexander, behind Victor One Binyama, behind Jalen Brown,

1064
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 9: and he eclipses Nikole Jokich. But you know what, that's

1065
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 9: a pretty good honor because he's still in the conversation

1066
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 9: and he really is the primary reason why the Ways

1067
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 9: are at least a playoff contender as opposed to being

1068
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 9: the plane.

1069
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: Well, and they could be hosting that playoff first round series. Now,

1070
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: who do you think the better matchup is for them?

1071
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 3: I know they just beat Houston twice, but Minnesota's currently

1072
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: without Anthony Edwards. Maybe they want some revenge after what

1073
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: happened last year. Like, what's best case scenario for this

1074
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: Lakers group? Now, how far do you think they can

1075
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: take it?

1076
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1077
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 9: Well, assuming no major injuries on either side. I think

1078
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 9: the Houston Rockets are clearly not a great team. I mean,

1079
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 9: we thought that they were going to be unstoppable with

1080
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 9: Kevin Durant and this young, up and coming team, but

1081
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 9: they lack consistency. There's a great chemistry, so they're very

1082
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 9: vulnerable for a first round out. And then I think

1083
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 9: Minnesota they are dangerous still because for better and for worse,

1084
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 9: they play well in higher stakes games. They don't play

1085
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 9: so well against bad teams. That's why their loss to

1086
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 9: the Lakers was a little bit surprising. I expected to

1087
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 9: be more competitive in the playoffs. And then I think

1088
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 9: that Denver Nuggets are the toughest out in the first

1089
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 9: round because you have Nicole Yoka, Shamal Murray's healthy, and

1090
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 9: you know they have that playoff history. But I think

1091
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 9: when you're looking at how the Lakers are playing, they

1092
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 9: can very well, not easily, but they can very well

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Speaker 9: beat all those teams, regardless of seating, regardless of home court,

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Speaker 9: because of how great the chemistry's been lately.

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Speaker 2: Mark, let's move over to the Eastern Conference. When you

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Speaker 2: talked about Oklahoma City is kind of in a tier

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Speaker 2: of their own out West, and I know they don't

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Speaker 2: have the best record in the East, at least not yet,

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Speaker 2: but they potentially could, especially after the injury de Kid Cunningham.

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Speaker 2: And that's the Boston Celtics you mentioned, with Jalen Brown

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Speaker 2: now getting Jason Tatum back into the mix healthy here

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Speaker 2: for the stretch run of the season into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that they are essentially the team to

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Speaker 2: beat and the favorites to come out of the Eastern

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Speaker 2: Conference And do you think who you think actually would

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Speaker 2: give them the biggest run for the money in the

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Speaker 2: Eastern Conference finals?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Ever so Jason Tatum came back, I thought the Boston

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Speaker 9: Celtics they're getting back to the finals because it's plug

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Speaker 9: and play. He can use this whole month to ramp

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Speaker 9: himself up to be right for the playoffs, and their

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Speaker 9: chemistry is great. I don't think there's going to be

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Speaker 9: any issue about how Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum co

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Speaker 9: exists because they've shown through a championship brun they can

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Speaker 9: coexist just fine. The Detroit Pistons, I thought they were

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Speaker 9: already vulnerable before Kate cunning Cunningham's injury because they haven't

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Speaker 9: been shooting the ball well from three to lately, Kate

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Speaker 9: Cunningham has some up and down games, but now they

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Speaker 9: has an injury. They're out of the group chat right

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Speaker 9: of contending out of the East the New York Knicks.

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Speaker 9: I would say that they're the best team that could

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Speaker 9: give the Sox a run for their money because they

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Speaker 9: have most of the group intact, Jalen Brunson and Karl

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Speaker 9: Anthony towns Is. Chemistry is great. Their defense has been

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Speaker 9: one of the best teams in the NBA since January.

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Speaker 9: But where I think they're vulnerable is outside of Kat.

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Speaker 9: Outside of Brunson, their offense is pretty inconsistent. They don't

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Speaker 9: have that defend of the third option. Even though that

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Speaker 9: Josh Hart's a great energy guy. They don't have Ojionanobi

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Speaker 9: or Jordan Clarkson or really anyone else playing Michale Bridges

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Speaker 9: most Notboy playing at a consistent level. So I think

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Speaker 9: the Knicks can challenge them, but it would be a

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Speaker 9: six game series and then Boston would face I think

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Speaker 9: the Thunder. But this could go seven games against the Spurs,

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Speaker 9: and they've shown through two regular season matchups at the

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Speaker 9: Spur two out of three that the Spurs can very

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Speaker 9: well beat the Thunder, But I would take the Thunder

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Speaker 9: just because they have the experience and Chase playing all

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Speaker 9: the time levels, so it should be a fun finals

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Speaker 9: in okase in Boston.

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Speaker 3: Now, Mark I wouldn't complain if he ends up being

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Speaker 3: a Clipper throughout this entire saga and process in Milwaukee

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Speaker 3: with Giannis Zena Kompo, but the will he won't he?

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Speaker 4: And now it sounds like they may trade him. What

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Speaker 4: is going to happen here?

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Speaker 3: What is the end game?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's really wild. I mean to catch you know,

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Speaker 9: listeners up to speed. Why we're talking about Yiannis possibly

1150
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Speaker 9: be traded here is there's strong disagreements where the Bucks

1151
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 9: are saying, hey, shut it down for the rest of

1152
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Speaker 9: the season, and we want to get you healthy, we

1153
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Speaker 9: want to maximize lottery and honest and say no, I

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Speaker 9: want to still compete and give them a chance to

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Speaker 9: sneak in the plan. But mathematically that seems unlikely because

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00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 9: there's seven and a half games behind Charlotte. Charlot's playing

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Speaker 9: all the time level. So what this means moving forward?

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Speaker 9: I think even before this, it was more likely Giannis

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Speaker 9: is going to get traded because the Bucks have more

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00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 9: time to listen to suitors. There's more leverage in play

1161
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Speaker 9: with potential assets leading into the draft because they could

1162
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Speaker 9: get draft picks. They could also get a top pick

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Speaker 9: because of their lottery odds. But here's the thing. We've

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Speaker 9: seen the honest blink when it comes to requesting trade.

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00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 9: We've also seen Giannis blink when he's been eligible for

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Speaker 9: an extension. He's going to be eligible for an extensions

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00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 9: in October. So here's the thing. I would very much

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Speaker 9: hesitate to put money on it because I think, just

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Speaker 9: like my bracket, it would just blow up right away.

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Speaker 9: But if I had a guess, he will get traded

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Speaker 9: this offseason, but I won't be surprised. That's a lot,

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Speaker 9: a lot of smoking me. And he winds up signing

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Speaker 9: an extension in October only because that's what he's done

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Speaker 9: so far in his career with Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: Well, basically what Jimmy Haslam has done as the owner

1176
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 2: of the Browns, meddling and player affairs, whatever he wants

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Speaker 2: to do with the Bucks. When it comes to Giannis,

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Speaker 2: do the exact opposite. It will be my advice, Mark Medina.

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Speaker 9: It's like side of how George Cassandra do the opposite one.

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Speaker 3: Hundred percent mark. That's exactly what it is. Let's talk expansion.

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00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: So the owner is going to vote on expanding to

1182
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: Seattle in Las Vegas, not a secret, something that's been

1183
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: bandied about for years now in the NBA. I guess

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00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: my question would be is it good for Is this

1185
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: it's a good thing for the league? I'm sure it's

1186
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: good business wise, but product wise? Is it a good

1187
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: investment for the lead to try to reach out and

1188
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: expand considering how many bad teams we already have in

1189
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: the NBA? What are your thoughts on expansion expanding by

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Speaker 2: two more teams?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I think it's the biggest question is going

1193
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 9: to be when is it going to be? I mean,

1194
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 9: we know it's going to happen, but when is it

1195
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Speaker 9: going to be? I think what you weigh all the variables,

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Speaker 9: it's good for business, bad for the product because of

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Speaker 9: what you just said, When you have more teams, that

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Speaker 9: spreads out the talent pool and that dilutes a little bit.

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Speaker 9: And we've also seen here, even though the NBA says, hey,

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Speaker 9: they're going to make some more tanking reforms, there's a

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Speaker 9: lot of good parody between the first and second tier

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Speaker 9: type teams of championship contenders, teams that can make the

1203
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 9: playoffs are competing for the playing But the teams that

1204
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 9: are really really bad, they're really really, really really bad.

1205
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 9: And maybe you know so if it's by design because

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00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 9: of the lottery set up, but you add two teams

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00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 9: in the mix, it's inevitable. When you look at the

1208
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 9: history of the NBA when it's expansion franchise, the first

1209
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 9: few years they're terrible because you know, they have an

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00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 9: expansion draft. They're trying to get acclimated here. That's point

1211
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Speaker 9: number one, but point number two at business, why there

1212
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 9: is I think a little bit of short term angst.

1213
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 9: It's a first world problem. But you know you're now

1214
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 9: having to divide the financial pie with two extra teams.

1215
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 9: That means fewer slices for the thirty other teams. And

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Speaker 9: so here's where there is some point of contention. Beyond sharing.

1217
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 9: They negotiate this media deal. It's very, very lucrative. It's

1218
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 9: good for the NBA, but I think there's feelings from

1219
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 9: the teams, Hey, we're the ones that had the sweat

1220
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 9: equity and had the value that resolved this media rates deal.

1221
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 9: Who are these new these franchise that don't exist, why

1222
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 9: do they suddenly have a right to this revenue. So

1223
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 9: I think there's going to be negotiations on you know,

1224
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 9: how much they smooth that revenue sharing. But the reality is,

1225
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 9: once you have a franchise, you have to be able

1226
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 9: to sustain it financially. So there's a lot of you know,

1227
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 9: in the weeds financial debates and negotiations will go through.

1228
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 9: Ultimately it will be good for business. But I think

1229
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 9: it's a fair debate and I'm on your side that

1230
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 9: I don't think it's good for the product because of

1231
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 9: what we just talked about.

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Speaker 4: I'm on Seattle's side hashtag Sonics gate is And to.

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Speaker 9: Be clear, Seattle needs have a franchise. They've been scoring here.

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Speaker 9: Even though the thunder are great, well run, it shouldn't

1235
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 9: have been at their expense. But I'm just looking at

1236
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 9: through the big picture here of what it means for

1237
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 9: the league, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: He is Mark Medina, Fox Sports Radios, NBA analysts follow

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Speaker 3: Get money, Get money.

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Speaker 4: That's Mark Medina here. Mark, thanks for doing this here

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Speaker 9: I appreciate you and who knows, maybe we just started

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Speaker 3: Mark.

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Speaker 4: I know if you can hear the music in the background,

1247
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Speaker 4: but uh, dre just let it run.

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Speaker 9: I am whatever you say. I am.

1249
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Speaker 4: It's right if I wasn't. I love you, Mark, Thanks Mark,

1250
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Speaker 4: appreciating me.

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Speaker 3: Take care great, Mark Medinah wish damned to do this

1252
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Speaker 3: every week.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to step on Bernie Frido's toes. But

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Speaker 2: Bernie's not talking hip hop like this.

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Speaker 4: No, you don't know about this life. Oh not like us?

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Speaker 4: Wait are you're taking it down now? We can't take

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Speaker 4: it out with that?

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Speaker 2: Come on you with this Joey running for so long,

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to have him sue me. You want

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Speaker 2: doctor dracomin after you? By all means?

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Speaker 3: I mean he does have a line about I'll buy

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Speaker 3: you a wardrobe. I'm tired of all these questions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Sorry, that's a great song, great album. It is

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Speaker 4: great guest Mark Parandina, Yes he is.

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Speaker 4: Huh yeah, we'll talk about that coming up next fn

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Speaker 4: And how about this one, Kevin?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, there's never been a hurricane named Chuck

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Speaker 3: years old? You know he was the reason why Walda

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Speaker 3: he once lit a fart in the Sahara forest.

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Speaker 4: Now the desert. I think that's a good one to

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Speaker 4: dismount on her on this particular segment.

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Speaker 2: to our guy Pauli B who was at the emergency

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Speaker 4: So I hope his dad is doing all right but.

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Speaker 3: Listening to us.

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Speaker 2: us up on X, you certainly can do that as

1306
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: well at K FIG one and that follow Adam A.

1307
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: So the World Baseball Classic was an unmitigated disaster, except

1308
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: the exact opposite. It Actually it did very well, like

1309
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 3: shockingly well.

1310
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 2: It doubled the numbers of last year's championship or scuse

1311
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: me last time back in twenty twenty three, it's championship

1312
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: game the about four and a half million viewers for

1313
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,479
Speaker 2: United States and Japan the epic Oltani versus Mike trout Ending.

1314
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:25,959
Speaker 3: Oh.

1315
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: They won over ten million viewers for the championship game

1316
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: against the United States Venezuela this past week I'm.

1317
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 3: Trying to pinpoint why there was so much more of

1318
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 3: an outcry and outpouring of emotion for these games this

1319
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 3: time around. It just felt much more patriotic than ever

1320
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 3: that I.

1321
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: Felt that a little bit of that last year. To

1322
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: be honest with you too, I mean, Team Japan was

1323
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: geeks to win it. And you talked to a lot

1324
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: of reporters who cover players or even cover some of

1325
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 2: these international leagues.

1326
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 3: There are some who.

1327
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 2: Actually value the WBC more than the World Series, and

1328
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: players have set that, coaches have set that.

1329
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 3: I heard Aaron Judge say that it's heightened atmosphere.

1330
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 4: I mean it does give you.

1331
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that the United States players were

1332
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: into it too, the range of emotions from all the fans,

1333
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: it was really exciting to see.

1334
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 4: Is something you're not used to seeing in March. You know,

1335
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 4: it's spring training.

1336
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: Usually you're in the dull days of spring training before

1337
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: the start of the regular season coming up at the

1338
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: end of next week. So to get these guys in

1339
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: an environment like that, an ultra competitive environment where you're

1340
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 2: playing for country and for pride more than anything else,

1341
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: you know, initially I wasn't really into it. I just

1342
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 2: thought it was some contrived, made up thing professional players

1343
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: couldn't participate in the Olympics.

1344
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 3: So let's do something.

1345
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: And that might be changing here in twenty twenty eight,

1346
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: and we can talk about that if you want to too.

1347
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: But now that we've had a couple of cycles under

1348
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: our belt and seeing how the players are all.

1349
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 4: Into it, you know, it kind of got me into it.

1350
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 3: I wasn't into it at first because David Vassay was

1351
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 3: poop pooing it like he was Rob Parker. He still is.

1352
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 2: Davidse Yes, a reporter for the Los Angeles Dodgers for

1353
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: a radio and TV.

1354
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 3: Yes, still poopooing it.

1355
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: I mean he said, it's a it's a made up

1356
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 2: it's a drummed up thing that they basically try to manufacture.

1357
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 4: So the United States plays Japan every year, so he's right.

1358
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 3: If you look at how the divisions or the groupings

1359
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 3: were to get out of those and who the teams

1360
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 3: were in each one Dominican is in one, USA is

1361
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 3: in another? Uh was Venezuela in their own? Who else

1362
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 3: am I missing here? It ain't great break.

1363
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 4: I don't remember the exact pools that they were all in.

1364
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 3: If I'm to be completely honest with you. Yeah, they

1365
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: were definitely set up Japan, right. That did not happen, No,

1366
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 3: and it kind of worked out. It kind of has.

1367
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you're going to say about upsets

1368
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: and all that, but the NCAA tournament feel to it

1369
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 2: in a in a sport that's really built on series

1370
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: and when you get to this single elimination, getting out

1371
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: of group play one game, that's all you need.

1372
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 3: That is what I think the ultimate draw is. You

1373
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 3: got the patriotism. It's easy to attack yourself and latch

1374
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 3: onto your country being out there. Maybe part of it

1375
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 3: was because we just had the Winter Olympics and people

1376
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 3: already maybe were on fire for America.

1377
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 4: I don't know why not.

1378
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 3: There may have been some spillover, you could say, with

1379
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: the outpouring of emotion. Maybe because baseball's had a really

1380
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 3: good two years with the Dodgers first going up against

1381
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 3: the Yankees and then even with no it was the

1382
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 3: Blue Jays the last time around. You're playing a different

1383
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 3: country and it's one of the greatest World Series Game

1384
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: sevens we've ever seen. So Baseball was missed and we

1385
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 3: were just salivating and looking for anything.

1386
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it's had a bit of a resurgence. And

1387
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 2: you know, I've been one of the biggest critics of

1388
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: Ron Manfred over his tenure. But the rule changes he made,

1389
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 2: you know, the bigger bases these you know, the step

1390
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 2: off limits when it comes to pitchers, step off the

1391
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: pitch clock. All that has helped speak the game up

1392
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: and make it more exciting. Of the younger demographics actuly

1393
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 2: onto it, and a lot of the ratings and ticket

1394
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 2: sales have gone up specifically within that demographic, and I

1395
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: think that's what has helped baseball. I won't call it

1396
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: a revolution per se, but that's why they've They've gotten

1397
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 2: a lot more support over the last three to four

1398
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 2: years after they were quote unquote dying years before.

1399
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think the Dodgers are saving baseball to some degree,

1400
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 3: thut it out dynasties. I feel like always do oh

1401
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 3: Tani going to the Dodgers may have saved baseball because

1402
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 3: before that, while they won in twenty twenty, people diminished it.

1403
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 4: They downplayed it. They said it was covid. I wouldn't

1404
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 4: go that far. They still had to.

1405
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 3: Play on the road the entire time, even though you

1406
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 3: know they probably would have had home field throughout the playoffs.

1407
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: Typically we'll say it's less than half the season.

1408
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: The attrition that comes with winning a championship, you know,

1409
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 2: would you have been remained healthy, Those are valid arguments.

1410
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 3: But Kershaw stayed healthy for once because it wasn't the

1411
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 3: long season. Everybody played under the same conditions, so it

1412
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 3: was different. It was a legitimate championship. I don't know

1413
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 3: if you could compare it to one sixty two championship,

1414
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: but now they have of those, and they won both

1415
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 3: of them with Otani, and we waited for so long

1416
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 3: like the sleeping Giant.

1417
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 4: It wasn't like a team. There was a sleeping giant

1418
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 4: in it.

1419
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 3: Was the League of Baseball as a whole was the

1420
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 3: sleeping Giant. What they needed was their best player, their

1421
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 3: most unique player, a generational player to be on the

1422
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 3: big stage, on one of the biggest teams, biggest markets

1423
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 3: in the league.

1424
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 4: That's what it was that.

1425
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 2: Woke everybody up to get out of purgatory and actually

1426
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: have someone to either root for or root against.

1427
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:37,959
Speaker 4: Oh it's true, well.

1428
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: Trash organizations, my god, anyway, your garbage, and I think

1429
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: the villain aspect of it for the Dodgers nationwide, I think,

1430
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 2: to your point, actually helps Major League Baseball too.

1431
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 3: It gives you someone something to root against.

1432
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: I think parody as much as enjoyable as it seems,

1433
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 2: I think most people want to grasp onto someone. They

1434
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 2: people want familiarity, whether they want you to knockoff the

1435
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 2: dominant team or they're rooting for the dominant team. I

1436
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 2: think that's usually when the leagues end up thriving. I know,

1437
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: like it's a big deal for the NBA right now

1438
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 2: to try to encourage parody as much as possible.

1439
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the best thing for the league.

1440
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 3: I agree. I think we're seeing maybe that original formula

1441
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 3: that we saw throughout the nineties and so many different leagues,

1442
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 3: what we saw in the NFL recently with the Chiefs

1443
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 3: and the Patriots and the Patriots is paying off now

1444
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: in baseball because it's familiarity and its simplicity. You have

1445
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 3: to dumb things down. The way to do that is

1446
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: to have a bunch of stars all on one team

1447
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: and not as scattered.

1448
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 4: And the Dodgers haven't able to do that. Pretty darn

1449
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 4: well you have.

1450
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 3: They haven't beaten, they haven't made a team that is

1451
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 3: too I don't want to say that it's impossible to

1452
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 3: beat them, So there's still enough hope out there because

1453
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 3: they had to go to a game seven against Toronto.

1454
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: Just based on how the game is built in baseball,

1455
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 2: and this is unique for about the sport too, is

1456
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 2: like you can have all sorts of superstars have been

1457
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 2: down your lineups.

1458
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 4: Bats can go cold in an entire series and you're done.

1459
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 2: And two pitchers for an opposing team can get red

1460
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 2: hot and lock you down.

1461
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 3: Wild Card teams really can have an opportunity in baseball

1462
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 3: to just go on a magical run.

1463
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 4: Here, you've seen it on a tournament like run.

1464
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: Didn't your San Francisco Giants win all three other championships

1465
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 2: as wild cards.

1466
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,439
Speaker 4: Let's not let's not downplay how good those teams were. Okay,

1467
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:25,479
Speaker 4: I'm giving them credit.

1468
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 3: Their road was tougher.

1469
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 4: A second, keep going exactly, keep going. I don't think

1470
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 4: all of them were.

1471
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 3: Maybe two of them were the first two, maybe not

1472
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen when they beat Kansas City. But yeah, they

1473
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 3: weren't exactly expected going into the season to be as

1474
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 3: good as they were, and they kind of had a

1475
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 3: hole as greater than some of its parts. Type of

1476
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 3: thing going on. The San Francisco Giants, you know those

1477
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 3: three and five years, those championships.

1478
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 4: That's as legit as a guesst. Kevin.

1479
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody was ever trying to take any

1480
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 2: credit away from don't just don't try.

1481
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 4: Don't try to manufacturer slights. Look validate my three rings

1482
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 4: in five years for Giants. That was a big deal.

1483
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 3: Well validated.

1484
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 4: That was the only time my team has ever Congratulations.

1485
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty simple.

1486
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: I win, even though it's eight years later, just like

1487
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: your bracket challenge Victor eights later me, Mark, Mark, you

1488
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 2: got something.

1489
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 8: So you just said, Adam that it was the Dodgers

1490
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 8: made it a big deal to love baseball again. If

1491
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 8: it hadn't been, any other two teams that brought could

1492
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 8: have brought baseball together that the same way could have

1493
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 8: could have been if the Oreoles became good again. I

1494
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 8: guess another you know, National League team? Is it just

1495
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 8: Is it just because the Dodgers were great? Or could

1496
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 8: any two teams now bring baseball back together? I think

1497
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 8: it has to be big market having the stars. It

1498
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 8: goes back to simplifying things for the fans, like you're

1499
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 8: looking at an All Star team. The Dodgers could probably

1500
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 8: beat They would beat the team USA World base Ball

1501
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 8: Classic team.

1502
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 4: They would beat that team. I believe that could.

1503
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 3: Will Smith catch himself. That's what I want to know.

1504
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 8: Well, just because there's a problem, because you made have

1505
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 8: to be the Dodgers are the only ones that could

1506
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 8: be this magical mystery, Yeah, Lewis, Maybe San Francisco or

1507
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 8: Saint Louis or the Ranger Red Sox.

1508
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's marquee franchises, big market teams that

1509
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: have that have a big following.

1510
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 4: Whether you love them or the Cubs. I know you're

1511
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 4: a White Sox fan.

1512
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 8: The Dodgers were just the team right now that spent

1513
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 8: a bunch of money and got it done and their

1514
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 8: players came through. Despite the money, you still have to

1515
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 8: play and you have to win the games.

1516
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 4: Which the the.

1517
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 8: Toronto I mean they they spent whatever money, but they

1518
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 8: their team, you.

1519
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 4: Know, got there.

1520
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 8: So they were there with the Dodgers. Well, I'm just

1521
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 8: thinking it's not just the Dodgers. It's so special. It

1522
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 8: was just they were the team that did it. But

1523
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 8: any of two teams could have been great to make

1524
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 8: base beloved again.

1525
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 3: The magnifier, the accelerator was getting Dodgers Yankees in the

1526
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 3: World Series, even though it ended in five games. You

1527
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 3: have a storied rivalry there, and you have two teams that,

1528
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 3: yes are big spenders.

1529
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 4: Evil Empire versus Evil Empire.

1530
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 3: It just is very easy to draw a line in

1531
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 3: the sand and know who you're rooting for in those situations,

1532
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 3: or you're rooting against both of them, I guess if

1533
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 3: you're like a Giants fan, but I think most were

1534
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 3: still rooting against the Dodgers.

1535
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: I think sustained excellence to a certain point. Though Mark

1536
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: is the most important because we go back to the NBA.

1537
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 2: The Golden State Warriors have been around for a long

1538
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: time and have had their great players. But obviously they

1539
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 2: have their run with Steph Curry and Kevin Durant and

1540
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 2: all those guys, and they went to the front. Was

1541
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: it four straight years against Cleveland?

1542
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, this sounds right, twenty fifteen, sixteen, seventeen.

1543
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cleveland Cavaliers are not a marquee franchise by any

1544
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 3: stretch of the imagination, but they have arguably the best

1545
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 3: player in the history of the sport, and they played

1546
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 3: each other over and over and over again, and not

1547
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 3: co once it did all those I feel like the

1548
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 3: ratings improved every single year they played each other in

1549
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 3: the finals. Well, the other thing with the Dodgers is

1550
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 3: they were good for so long, but they didn't get

1551
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 3: over the hump proof even if you give them twenty twenty,

1552
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 3: and people kept thinking they almost they were turning into

1553
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Braves of the nineties. Right, that's what it

1554
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 3: felt like, where you knew them very well for a

1555
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 3: long period of time, maybe you made up your mind

1556
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 3: about them and you felt like they were always going

1557
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 3: to come up short. Then they get Otani and now

1558
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 3: they get over the top the last two seasons and

1559
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 3: their favors to win it again.

1560
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why nobody talks about them being the

1561
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: Evil Empire back then, because they didn't win any championships,

1562
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 2: so it didn't matter. You can make the playoffs every year,

1563
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 2: no one cares unless you win championships, because.

1564
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 8: We all know that many moons ago, the Yankees were

1565
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 8: the evil Empire because they spent the money and they

1566
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 8: got the players, and then those players delivered. But it's

1567
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 8: just a matter of what the Dodgers. They'd like the

1568
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 8: team of the moment right now that spend the money

1569
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 8: and the players delivered. But I'm just saying not that

1570
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 8: I want to, you know, keep knocking the Dodgers down.

1571
01:11:58,600 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 3: They're great.

1572
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 8: But the idea that any two teams that are consistent,

1573
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 8: spend the money and their players deliver could make baseball

1574
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 8: great again.

1575
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 2: I will say it helps that the Dodgers are in

1576
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 2: Los Angeles are a marquee franchise, but use Baltimore as

1577
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: an example, which has a great history of their own.

1578
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 3: If they were to go on a.

1579
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: Ten year run of winning the American League East and

1580
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 2: had a bunch of great players and found ways to

1581
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 2: win championships, they could certainly turn themselves into that organically.

1582
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that can happen.

1583
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 4: The New England Patriots weren't also ran. Nobody cared about

1584
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 4: the Patriots.

1585
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: Nobody had thought twice about the Patriots back in the day,

1586
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, Parcels comes in, turns things around.

1587
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 2: Belichick follows suit, and they become one of the great

1588
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: dynasties in the history of the sport.

1589
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 4: But there are nothing.

1590
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 2: No one cared about the Patriots, and all of a

1591
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 2: sudden they're one of the most hated franchises in sports

1592
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 2: because they had to run of success, so you can

1593
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 2: organically turn a regular franchise into a marquee attraction that

1594
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: gets hated as long as you have sustained success.

1595
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,879
Speaker 3: The multiplier, though, with the Dodgers is what the Giants.

1596
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 3: They won three and five, but they didn't win with

1597
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 3: Barry Bonds. They didn't win with the biggest names out there.

1598
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 3: They won with some lovable guys that are very special

1599
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 3: in the hearts of people in San Francisco. San Francisco,

1600
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 3: I don't know sure, but and Madison Bumgarner most people

1601
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 3: could point him out. And Tim Lincicome. But the Dodgers

1602
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 3: have like five six seven people that casuals can say, Oh,

1603
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 3: I know him, I know him. In fact, I just

1604
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 3: saw him at the World Baseball Classic. They have all

1605
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 3: this like transcendent star power that everybody recognizes, and that

1606
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 3: makes it so much easier to get involved or to

1607
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 3: pay attention because you can kind of be a little

1608
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: bit on the outs, but just have one eye on

1609
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 3: baseball now a little bit, and then when the stakes

1610
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 3: start to raise, you jump fully in because.

1611
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 4: You've been paying attention just enough with a team you've

1612
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 4: known for a bit.

1613
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense to me.

1614
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: Uh, when we come back well, dive deeper into the

1615
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic and what this means as far as

1616
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classic moving fur to potentially an end

1617
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: season tournament, something that Rob Manfred has bantied about when

1618
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 2: it comes to Major League Baseball.

1619
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 9: Is also the next round of the tournament?

1620
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 3: Is it necessary?

1621
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 4: I mean, Rob Manfred's hot right now.

1622
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 6: He is.

1623
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: He's he's going out guns blazing. I think he's retiring

1624
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: after next season or the year after next something like

1625
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 2: that pretty soon here. So he's trying to put in

1626
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 2: and put his stamp on Major League Baseball the best

1627
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 2: way he possibly can. And I will say, so far

1628
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: over the past few years, that's pretty good.

1629
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going out on top.

1630
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll talk some more Major League Baseball, specifically specifically

1631
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 3: about the World Baseball Classic coming up next.

1632
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,679
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1634
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1635
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1636
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1637
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1638
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1639
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1640
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1641
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1642
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1643
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1644
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1646
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1647
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1648
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1649
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1650
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Speaker 4: Radio and the iHeartRadio.

1651
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 2: Coming up in about ten minutes or so. We talked

1652
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 2: about it with Mark Medina. To start off this hour,

1653
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 2: we'll talk a little bit more about the NBA expanding

1654
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 2: to Seattle and Las Vegas, most likely here in the future,

1655
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 2: and whether or not that's actually a good thing for

1656
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 2: the league. We might want to get you guys' opinion

1657
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 2: on that as well at eight seven seven ninety nine

1658
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 2: on Fox. We'll talk about that coming up in about

1659
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 2: ten minutes. But to finish our conversation on Major League

1660
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 2: Baseball and specifically the World Baseball Classic, there's now been

1661
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 2: talk about them potentially moving the WBC from spring training

1662
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 2: to the All Star break and extending the All Star

1663
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 2: break and having the World Baseball Classic happen in mid July,

1664
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 2: and there's either talk of doing that, which Bob Maffort

1665
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 2: said would be ideal, that was his exact quote, or

1666
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 2: having some sort of just in season tournament kind of

1667
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 2: like the NBA has the NBA Cup from Major League Baseball.

1668
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 3: Any of those ideas do anything for you at them.

1669
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 3: I like the idea of doing the World Baseball Classic

1670
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 3: instead of the All Star Game and just having that

1671
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 3: be the event over what five days something like that,

1672
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 3: probably a couple of weeks.

1673
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: If you're gonna do it in the format that you

1674
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 2: have now, it's gonna be really hard to kind of

1675
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 2: squeeze all that in, so it probably you'd have to

1676
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 2: at bare minimum.

1677
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 3: You're looking at ten twelve days.

1678
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 4: Like you're not competing with much else at that time.

1679
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 3: No, not at all. NBA is done, hockey's done, wins

1680
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 3: the Midsummer Classics mid July.

1681
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's around mid July usually July twelfth, thirteen, fourteen,

1682
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: something like that.

1683
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 4: And you can own that time period.

1684
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 3: So if you're gonna lay out two weeks to do

1685
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 3: something like this, to go on hiatus in the standings

1686
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 3: in the regular season and say check this out. I

1687
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 3: don't think that's the worst idea because that will once

1688
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 3: again familiarize people with players maybe they didn't know as well.

1689
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 3: And then you jump back into the regular season and

1690
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 3: you're seeing all these guys scattered and playing on their

1691
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 3: teams and maybe there's more interest than because of it.

1692
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 4: Now here's the issue. Well, there's a couple of issues.

1693
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 2: So One, what are the other players doing for two

1694
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 2: weeks who are not participating in the World Baseball Classic

1695
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 2: for their countries in two three Cancun. Yeah, I've seen

1696
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: the proposals. All they can play against minor leaguers at

1697
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: you know, Arizona Spring training in Florida Springs, Like, good

1698
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 2: luck with that.

1699
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1700
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a good enough idea. Two,

1701
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: and this is something that Alex Korra brought up. He

1702
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 2: was like, everybody who plays in the WBC is not

1703
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: a major league player. So these guys have to find

1704
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 2: like time to you know, have continuity and meet with

1705
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 2: their general managers and their teams and fly to different

1706
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: places and have There's a lot of logistical issues surrounding

1707
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 2: putting together a WBC team and a roster and having

1708
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 2: continuity with that roster, and you can't just break away

1709
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: from your major league team and then the next day

1710
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 2: show up for Team USA, you know, now for the

1711
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 2: United States. Yeah, it's all major league guys for a

1712
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: lot of these other places, and not necessarily true.

1713
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 3: So it might be overly ambitious and it might be

1714
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 3: oversaturation if you try to do it every year, and

1715
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 3: therefore it doesn't have the appeal or the draw. It

1716
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 3: doesn't seem as special.

1717
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 2: And I don't think they from what I'm gathering, it

1718
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like it's something that they want to do

1719
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 2: every single year anyway. I think they still want to

1720
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 2: do it every three years, which is what it is now,

1721
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 2: and how that incorporates itself when it comes to the Olympics.

1722
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: Because it sounds like Rob Manfred is on board with

1723
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 2: major league players participating in the Olympics and basically taking

1724
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: a break like the NHL does or the WNBA does

1725
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: when it's an Olympic year, or they just take they

1726
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 2: just take a break in the season for a few weeks.

1727
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 2: That sounds like something that Major League ball would want

1728
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: to do. Coming up in twenty twenty eight, with the

1729
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: La Olympics, and if that goes well, it's something they

1730
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 2: want to continue into the future. Okay, so that's kind

1731
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 2: of an experiment as to how a WBC in July

1732
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,560
Speaker 2: would work. I will say another pushback on it is

1733
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:14,759
Speaker 2: pictures are just way too valuable.

1734
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 3: Yes, you're that deep into the season.

1735
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 2: You're in the dog days basically trying to get over

1736
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 2: the hump towards the All Star or excuse me, towards

1737
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 2: the trade deadline. I find it hard to believe if

1738
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: you're a Trek Scoobel and by now you're probably making

1739
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: no god knows how much money with whatever franchise is

1740
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 2: not Detroit. They want to run you out there in

1741
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 2: July t Detroit for you to pick up extra innings

1742
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 2: on your arm while not helping the Detroit Tigers. It's

1743
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: easier to justify in spring training because you can use

1744
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 2: it as an extended ramp up period or whatever you

1745
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 2: want to call it.

1746
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 3: Well, Mark DeRosa was hesitant using the Padres picture even.

1747
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 2: Now, and that because he wasn't built up enough. So

1748
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: this is where Mark Scherzer. Max Schurzer says what they

1749
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: should do is actually move the WBC to later in

1750
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 2: spring training.

1751
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 4: Well, he knows about dead arms, doesn't mean yeah.

1752
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: He says, the best solution is not the All Star

1753
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 2: break and not having it where it is. Just move it,

1754
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 2: Move it to two weeks after the initial date, so basically,

1755
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: pitchers are more built up, there's gonna be fewer restrictions

1756
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: on them. The regular season still hasn't started yet, so

1757
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 2: they don't have this giant accumulation of innings under their

1758
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 2: belt already like.

1759
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 4: They would if you did it in July. I'm good

1760
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 4: with that. I think that's probably the best solution.

1761
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 2: Just move it to later in spring training and they

1762
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 2: just start the regular season ten twelve days later than

1763
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: usually would.

1764
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 3: I mean, because then you build up the anticipation for

1765
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 3: the season, right, that will get people more excited for baseball,

1766
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 3: the seam heads. That's actually a great way to do it,

1767
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, instead of pausing the regular season and

1768
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 3: up ending everything, which could throw things off. And as

1769
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 3: you mentioned, if it's close to the trade deadline, how

1770
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 3: much are they going to be able to use some

1771
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 3: of these pitchers. That seems yeah, that seems like just

1772
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 3: completely unfeasible. But yeah, I don't see teams signing off

1773
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 3: on that if you're using it as part of the

1774
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 3: ramp up process, like for the same amount of innings

1775
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 3: that you'd get out of them in spring training anyways

1776
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 3: to get ready for the regular season. Now they're just

1777
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 3: doing it for Team USA or whoever that works. Yeah,

1778
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 3: makes a whole lot more sense to do it that way.

1779
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 3: But I can't see a bunch of Major league franchises

1780
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 3: signing off and having their players break in the middle

1781
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 3: of the season and put wear and tear on their

1782
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 3: bodies for the WBC when they're trying to make a

1783
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 3: run of the Pennant race. What will the NBA do

1784
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 3: when it comes to expansion. We'll just s right final

1785
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 3: hour of F and A on FSR. Kevin figures. That

1786
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 3: is me at k fig one is where you can

1787
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 3: find me on X. You can find Adam at Follow

1788
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 3: Adam a on X as well.

1789
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 4: You can find Chuck Norris in heaven. He was eighty six.

1790
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 3: He passed away today death. Once had a near Chuck

1791
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 3: Norris experience. Did you know Sharks have a Chuck Norris weekend?

1792
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 3: You know what, Chuck Norris, he didn't have to flush

1793
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 3: the toilet. He just scared the crap out of it.

1794
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 3: Look that that's gold. That's gold.

1795
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 4: Jared can keep him coming. When Chuck Norris moved out,

1796
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 4: he told his dad, you're the man of the house.

1797
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 3: Now it takes Chuck Norris twenty minutes to watch sixty minutes.

1798
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 4: This is one of my favorites. Chuck Norris blows bubbles

1799
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 4: with beef jerky. I made another funny, ridiculous one more.

1800
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 3: Chuck Norris used stunt doubles, but only for the crying parts. Okay, sorry,

1801
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 3: one more, alright, one more on more. When Chuck Norris

1802
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,799
Speaker 3: tells a joke about Will Smith's wife, Will Smith stands

1803
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 3: up and slaps his wife, I'd write this. Chuck Norris

1804
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 3: doesn't mows grass, he dares it to grow. All right,

1805
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 3: more coming up, I'm sure rp Chuck. So big news

1806
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 3: the NBA made this weekend. The problem is it wasn't

1807
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 3: really a giant secret at all. It been bandied about

1808
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 3: for years that they were going to expand. We knew

1809
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 3: back to Seattle, and we knew most likely to Las Vegas,

1810
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 3: especially once they really opened up and had summer league

1811
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 3: games and the n season tournament finals in semi finals there.

1812
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 2: So it wasn't open It was an open secret. It

1813
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 2: was just a matter of when they were going to

1814
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: do it. And we get an announcement from Sham's earlier

1815
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 2: this week that the voters are set to announce on

1816
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: whether or not they plan to expand to Las Vegas

1817
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: and Seattle in the future.

1818
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 4: This is the worst kept secret in the NBA.

1819
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 3: It's funny. This vote is so preliminary. It's like the

1820
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 3: vote before the vote. This is an exploratory vote, just

1821
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 3: to see, just to dip your toe in the water

1822
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 3: and see where everybody's at here. And I guess part

1823
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 3: of this is just they want to see how high

1824
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 3: the bidding will be for these two locations. And it

1825
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 3: sounds like the Las Vegas bidding that could turn into

1826
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 3: a war so high that Lebron is out because he's out.

1827
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 2: He was an ownership group along with the owners of

1828
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 2: the Boston Red Sox, who were rumored to be basically

1829
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,799
Speaker 2: the front runners, that they were going to be basically

1830
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:04,520
Speaker 2: gifted the Las Vegas franchise.

1831
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 3: I was like pretty much guaranteeing Lebron, James and Rich

1832
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 3: Paul are going to run a basketball team together within

1833
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 3: the next ten years.

1834
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 4: That's not happening.

1835
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 2: They might, but it's not gonna be the Las Vegas franchise,

1836
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 2: because when they saw that price tag of eight billion dollars,

1837
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 2: They're like, nope, I'm out.

1838
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 3: I wonder, you know, Mark Walter just took over the Lakers.

1839
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 3: Does Lebron feel like he has other options now, not

1840
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 3: as the.

1841
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 4: Lead owner, but minority owner, maybe with the Laker or

1842
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 4: something like that.

1843
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1844
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering. That's a way to get your foot

1845
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 3: in the door ownership is to be a minority owner

1846
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 3: somewhere else.

1847
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 4: First, I'm just surprised he was so firm about it

1848
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 4: that I'm done.

1849
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 3: I'm out.

1850
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Dan Wookie of the excuse me of the

1851
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 2: Athletic did ask him, you know, point blank after the

1852
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 2: report happened earlier in the day, are you so interested

1853
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:51,799
Speaker 2: in ownership?

1854
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 3: And he said, no, I'm not. Maybe he wants to

1855
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 3: own the Toronto Raptors since people call it Lebronto already

1856
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 3: up there with how many times he beat them in

1857
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Lebronto is one of the stupidest nicknames.

1858
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 4: That funny.

1859
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 3: I'm a dumbas it really is.

1860
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 4: It really is.

1861
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 2: But the problem is when you start getting into eight

1862
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 2: billion dollars, ten billion dollars and maybe Mark Walter is

1863
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 2: the one to blame for this. For purchasing the controlling

1864
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 2: stake of the Lakers at a ten billion dollar valuation.

1865
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 2: It just shoots all the values of a bunch of

1866
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 2: other franchises up.

1867
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite LDS moments. Like I'm talking,

1868
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 3: I think with Petros or somebody about this. Lebron's ruined

1869
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 3: the Lakers brand. Lebron's killed the franchise.

1870
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, they just.

1871
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 3: Got an evaluation of ten billion dollars. Oh, yeah, he

1872
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 3: crippled them. What exactly did he kill?

1873
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 7: What was it?

1874
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 4: I mean, they won a championship while he was here.

1875
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:51,560
Speaker 2: They were one of the worst franchises in sports for

1876
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 2: four or five years running before he came to the Lakers.

1877
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to I mean, does he have a

1878
01:25:56,439 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 2: stranglehold over the organization? Yeah, superstars do that, especially in

1879
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 2: the NBA. Does he do the sub tweeting and all

1880
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: that stuff that's annoying? Sure, I understand not liking him

1881
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,679
Speaker 2: for that, But does Rich Paul doing a podcast annoying?

1882
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: Sure?

1883
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1884
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 2: But saying that he destroyed the franchise in what way

1885
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 2: the franchise is look at the franchise today versus where

1886
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 2: it was in twenty seventeen.

1887
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 4: You tell me what's better or worse.

1888
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 3: That's why it's a disorder Lebron's arrangement syndrome, so they

1889
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 3: can't fully articulate what they're so upset about.

1890
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 4: They just hate them. They don't like them. The issue

1891
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 4: your run into.

1892
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 2: And Joe Varden, who broke the story initially, by the way,

1893
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 2: about Lebron and the ownership group not buying the franchise.

1894
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 2: He was actually on our local affiliate, A five seventy

1895
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: LA Sports earlier this week, and he says, what the

1896
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 2: NBA is gonna have to do when it comes to

1897
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 2: finding new owners, They're gonna have to lift their ban

1898
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 2: on private equity being investors when it comes to being

1899
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 2: able to own teams, because you're pricing regular people. And

1900
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 2: I say, you're pricing regular billionaires of being able to

1901
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 2: purchase these franchises.

1902
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 4: We're talking about eight billion billion dollars.

1903
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 3: You know, I was mad when I got priced out.

1904
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 3: We were so close, Kevin, we were gonna partner on.

1905
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 2: I just need to find another one hundred and fifty

1906
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 2: billion in your couch cushions.

1907
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 3: And you would to be able to make the cut.

1908
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: But outside of Jeff Bezos and people like that, unless

1909
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 2: those people are interested in buying, who else is out

1910
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 2: there to buy other than private equity people?

1911
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 4: I mean, Steve Balmer could buy all of the teams.

1912
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 3: I mean that almost all of them. What is he worth?

1913
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 3: Fifty billion dollars?

1914
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 4: I think it's closer to like one hundred is it

1915
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 4: one hundred?

1916
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 6: Now?

1917
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know the evaluation on Steve Balmer. It

1918
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 3: is slightly higher than the evaluation on the Lakers. I'm

1919
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 3: gonna tell you that. And we're lucky to have him

1920
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 3: with the Clippers, damn it, you are. Maybe he'll get

1921
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks.

1922
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 2: Possibly, I hadn't I had. The weird part is I

1923
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 2: haven't heard his name thrown out there. We threw it

1924
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 2: out there because it just made sense. Yeah, But and

1925
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 2: obviously there's a relationship there between him and the Paul

1926
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 2: Allen family.

1927
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 4: Obviously they would be lucky to have him.

1928
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be the first guy to own different sports

1929
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 3: franchises in different leagues.

1930
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know what the situation holds there,

1931
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 2: But personally, I'd rather he purchased the Angels.

1932
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 3: But that's that's just a personal thing for me. It's

1933
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 3: too late for you guys. Kevin Is, there's no saving

1934
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:11,560
Speaker 3: the Angels. Hey, he could save the Clippers. That's just

1935
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 3: a step too far. Now you're still working on saving

1936
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 3: the Clippers.

1937
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 6: Now.

1938
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 3: It's been ten years and they've had a winning season

1939
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 3: every year he's been here, including this one. You watch

1940
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 3: will only two games because I've been watching. Look, twelve

1941
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 3: games left, there's two games under five hundred.

1942
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 4: They go eight and four. They're above five hundred.

1943
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 3: Fifteen straight winning season's longest current active streak in the NBA.

1944
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 3: Let's go, that's the championship. Hang all the banners.

1945
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 2: There, you go, mark few more. But we're talking about

1946
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,600
Speaker 2: expansions of one. It's gonna cost a bazillion dollars just

1947
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: to buy into this situation. If you're in Vegas or Seattle.

1948
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 2: I would imagine the Seattle franchise probably be valued slightly

1949
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 2: less than Vegas, but I don't know.

1950
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 4: That's what it looks like.

1951
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 3: The bidding war for Vegas, we're talking five different groups.

1952
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:01,799
Speaker 3: For Seattle, it's one group, the group that owns the Kracking,

1953
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 3: the Seattle hockey team that came about the.

1954
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 4: Last few years. Yes, that would make the most sense.

1955
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 4: Does you know about them the King? I didn't know

1956
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 4: about the kracking release it is released the Kracking?

1957
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 3: Have they released it yet?

1958
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 4: Whichever one? Liam Neeson said, that's what I'm going with.

1959
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 3: I don't know how they've fared or the divisions and

1960
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 3: conference stuff changed recently.

1961
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 4: There's when it comes to the playoffs in the NHL.

1962
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 3: All I know is the Kings keep losing to Edmonton,

1963
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 3: but they found that way to not lose to them

1964
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:29,799
Speaker 3: this season, and that's not making the playoffs.

1965
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: Basically, the question is because I think it's two different

1966
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 2: questions that we brought this up with Mark Medina.

1967
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 4: Is it good for business and is it good for

1968
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 4: the product?

1969
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 2: And I think those might be two different answers now

1970
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 2: business standpoint, and Mark brought up the fact that now

1971
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 2: the pie is getting bigger. Instead of thirty teams, now

1972
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna have thirty two revenue sharing all of that.

1973
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 2: So what's gonna cut into your profits? One thing, though,

1974
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 2: the expansion fee is gonna be very large. I don't

1975
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 2: know what it is, but I feel like it goes

1976
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 2: up every year. Every team benefits from that expand so

1977
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 2: I heard.

1978
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 3: If they end up combining to get these two franchises

1979
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 3: bought for fifteen billion dollars combined.

1980
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 4: So let's say Vegas goes for ten, Seattle goes for five.

1981
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 3: I thought I heard that owners of the thirty teams

1982
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 3: now get five hundred million dollars each. What my money, bitch,

1983
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: it's pretty decent scratch for by the way, for doing

1984
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 3: nothing but checking yes, expand that's literally all they.

1985
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: Have to do.

1986
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 3: You think that's an easy decision, Kevin, I mean, come on,

1987
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 3: it's like ordering lunch that seems like togos. You love

1988
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 3: togos now.

1989
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 2: So whatever revenue, even if they might lose a bit

1990
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 2: of revenue from the seventy seven or whatever it was,

1991
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 2: billion dollar contract that the NBA signed with his media

1992
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 2: rights deal, they'll lose out on some of that, but

1993
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 2: they're gonna make up for at least a decent chunk

1994
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 2: of it just on the revenue share they're going to

1995
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 2: get from the expansion fee. So as soft is the

1996
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 2: blow there, But business merchandising, more games for TV, all

1997
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 2: that stuff. I think from a business standpoint, it makes

1998
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 2: sense to have more markets in your sport.

1999
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 4: In the long run, they will end up making much

2000
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,640
Speaker 4: more money. It will compounds. They will get richer and

2001
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 4: richer by the year.

2002
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 1: You know how much I make a year.

2003
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,759
Speaker 2: Here's the question now, was it good for the actual

2004
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 2: product to add two more teams? And that's the one

2005
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,640
Speaker 2: that's up for debate. I tend to agree with what

2006
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 2: Mark Medina said. It's like you have more. I feel

2007
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 2: like you already have teams. You have rosters now. I mean,

2008
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 2: look at the Wizards. Look at it a couple of others.

2009
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 2: At the dregs of the league. You have borderline NBA

2010
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 2: players who are suiting up and playing thirty minutes a

2011
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 2: night already. Here's the guys who should be probably in

2012
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 2: the G League or be or high level backups.

2013
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 3: The thing about that, though, is a lot of it

2014
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 3: is because teams are intentionally tanking. Like take the Wizards,

2015
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 3: for example. They don't want to be good right now.

2016
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 3: They don't want to.

2017
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 4: Play Trey and Anthony Davis together. If they did, they

2018
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 4: might be all right.

2019
01:31:58,080 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 3: They might be a team that's a play in level

2020
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 3: type of team, at least in the Eastern Conference. If

2021
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 3: everybody was actually trying to optimize their rosters and not

2022
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 3: just playing young guys. Because a once in a generation

2023
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,600
Speaker 3: draft is upon us and everybody's tanking to try to

2024
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 3: get into it. I think it would look much better.

2025
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 3: There wouldn't be nine teams that look like they've given

2026
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 3: up on the season. I think the tanking issue also

2027
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 3: affects this, and we've talked about it extensively. I think

2028
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 3: that is the problem because, to be honest, the talent

2029
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 3: pool that the NBA is drawing from is significantly bigger

2030
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:34,560
Speaker 3: than it was in the early two thousands or in

2031
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 3: the nineties because of all the international guys.

2032
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 4: I will say that. I will say that that's true.

2033
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 3: When you look at it. Kevin Embid, I know we

2034
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 3: played for Team USA, but international guy Jannis Luka, Jokic,

2035
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 3: uh Shay's Canadian.

2036
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 4: We are talking about at least half of the.

2037
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 3: Top ten players in the NBA are international guys now

2038
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 3: that wouldn't have even been playing basketball or wouldn't have

2039
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 3: been in the league because they got inspired by Michael

2040
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 3: Jordan in the nineties and the league expanding so much

2041
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 3: worldwide so that these guys start playing basketball and now

2042
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 3: they're here. The talent pool they're bringing in guys from

2043
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 3: is much larger than it used to be. I think

2044
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 3: the game is in a great place talent wise, skill wise,

2045
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 3: I do think they can fill up two more rosters

2046
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,639
Speaker 3: and be fine as long as teams are actually playing

2047
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 3: their best players out there every night. I don't know

2048
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 3: about that. That's the hard one for me, because, yes,

2049
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 3: the talent is better.

2050
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 2: I think there's guys now that basically you're telling me

2051
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 2: that those guys in the G League now who can

2052
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 2: be really rotational good NBA players, because if all things

2053
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 2: were equal, that's basically what you'd be building this were

2054
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:46,759
Speaker 2: these rosters out of I think guys where the players

2055
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 2: are coming from, where eighth and ninth guys on rosters

2056
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 2: now would be fifth or six guys on rosters in

2057
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 2: the nineties.

2058
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 3: I think the talent is there, teams are deep, there's death.

2059
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 3: The guys have never been more skilled, different I think

2060
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,879
Speaker 3: the amount of guys that can shoot, pass, and dribble

2061
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 3: and do much more than just one specialized skill has

2062
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 3: never been higher. Now, coaching matters now, how you construct

2063
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 3: those rosters matter, But I do think there's enough talent

2064
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 3: to tap into. I think there's been a gold mine

2065
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 3: because of the international game. Because next Olympics comes around,

2066
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 3: we might be losing we are. We were close to

2067
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 3: losing this past year. But a lot of those guys

2068
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 3: are already here though too a lot.

2069
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 4: But they're they're not like it's the pipeline is not stopping.

2070
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 3: Now. More people there are gonna be inspired because they

2071
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 3: saw Jokic play, they saw their countrymen play in the NBA. Like,

2072
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 3: it's just the more people that are playing basketball in

2073
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 3: the world means there's a higher level of competition to

2074
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 3: make it to this level, to make it to the NBA.

2075
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 3: That's better for the sport that gets more skill and

2076
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 3: more talent out there. It's like if you're playing a

2077
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 3: really niche it's like, how many other people are you

2078
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 3: competing with to get to the highest level in that sport?

2079
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 4: Like let's say you're playing a corn hoole.

2080
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody is also not gonna You can aspire to

2081
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 2: make it to the highest level. Everybody's not gonna make it,

2082
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 2: and you can be the best point guard for the

2083
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 2: Croatian national team and just not be good enough to

2084
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:17,679
Speaker 2: sniff the NBA.

2085
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 3: Of course, but there's a better chance of finding that

2086
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 3: person that can get to the highest level if everybody

2087
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 3: is playing the game now, if more people are out

2088
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 3: there practicing, playing, putting in the work, which is I

2089
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 3: think where the game is gone. And Jordan deserves a

2090
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 3: ton of credit for that.

2091
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you know, and guys like you know,

2092
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 2: Kobe and Check and the going to Lebron and those

2093
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: guys have made it even more international than all of

2094
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 2: that has helped. And then guys like Dirk Trailblazer internationally,

2095
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 2: you know, was a great international player.

2096
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,719
Speaker 3: Like I get it if you look at the Dream

2097
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 3: Team and the level of competition they were going up

2098
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 3: against in ninety two with the international teams compared to

2099
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 3: what team USAY has to go against now, it is

2100
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 3: night and day. It is not because American basketball players

2101
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 3: have gotten worse, like Lebron, Curry and kd of this generation,

2102
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 3: Kawhi Harden, all these guys.

2103
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 4: Oh, we're so much worse. And that's the problem.

2104
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,639
Speaker 3: That's not it. It's the rest of the world started

2105
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:18,440
Speaker 3: playing the game and they have tried to master it themselves.

2106
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 3: There is no comparison to international teams between now and

2107
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 3: thirty five years ago.

2108
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the pool has gotten much larger and those

2109
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 2: players have proliferated themselves into the NBA and it still

2110
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 2: hasn't necessarily. Look, there's always gonna be bottom feeders in

2111
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 2: every sport. Everybody can be great at the same time.

2112
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 4: It's math like to have good teams, you have to

2113
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 4: have bad teams. Yeah, I think some people focus too much. Oh,

2114
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 4: we have too many bad teams already. Every league has

2115
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 4: bad teams. That's how it always goes. The NFL has

2116
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 4: has dregs like that happens every single year.

2117
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 3: And it's not just a talent thing. It's injury, it's

2118
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 3: team construction, roster constructions. There are multiple factors that go

2119
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 3: into it. I just don't know if it's I'm from

2120
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 3: a nostalgic standpoint, will love for Seattle to have its

2121
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 3: franchise back. Yeah, I don't know if if you need

2122
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 3: to expand by two teams to bring two more teams

2123
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 3: into the league. By the way, knowing how expansive franchises

2124
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,719
Speaker 3: usually work, you have an expansion draft where teams basically

2125
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 3: put all their bad contracts available for the team to

2126
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 3: be able to claim. They'll claim a couple because they

2127
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 3: have to hit the salary floor and they're bad for

2128
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 3: five or six years before they actually hopefully, if they're

2129
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 3: trying to turn things around now, maybe they try to

2130
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 3: find a different way to work it out. I know

2131
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 3: the Las Vegas the Golden Knights when they started the

2132
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 3: NHL had their expansion draft formulated differently because they wanted

2133
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 3: the Vegas Knights to work and they wanted to be

2134
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 3: competitive immediately, and they were. It sounds like they're trying

2135
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 3: to change something or tweak the NBA's CPA so that

2136
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 3: they can have more success early on. And it's not

2137
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 3: just they're picking from every team's worst players. Because you

2138
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 3: protect your top eight players, the rest are available to

2139
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 3: be taken in the expansion draft. And that's how the

2140
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 3: Charlotte Bobcasts ended up being that bad for that long.

2141
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 3: And they also the who they draft, Sean May who

2142
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 3: was their first pick, the first Raymond Morrison was they missed.

2143
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 4: You know who missed? Michael Jordan. Yeah, a guy, the

2144
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 4: greatest player ever.

2145
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 3: Can't evaluate talent for s so I don't want to

2146
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 3: hear anything about, Oh, you got to listen to the

2147
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 3: NBA analysts.

2148
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 4: They're the ones that played the game. They know best. Really,

2149
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 4: he drafted call me Brown for DAWs sakes, What do

2150
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:28,839
Speaker 4: you mean magic? Michael Isaiah. Some of the worst talent evaluators.

2151
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 3: Of all times did draft teammate. Okay, he had some

2152
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 3: good he had some good run he had some solid drafts.

2153
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 3: The time he got to the Knicks, it was always

2154
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 3: all over, Hey, let's get Steve Francis with Stefan Mawberry

2155
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 3: on the same team.

2156
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 4: That's a great idea.

2157
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 2: One of the greatest quotes a general manager has ever

2158
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 2: said in any sport. When they asked him, why did

2159
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 2: you trade for step for Steve Francis and you already

2160
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 2: have Steffan Marberry, two ball dominant point guards, he said,

2161
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 2: it's crazy enough that it just might work.

2162
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 8: You could learn a lot from a dummy.

2163
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 4: That is what the general manager of the New York Knicks,

2164
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 4: Isaiah Thomas said.

2165
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 3: I will never forget that quote, not to mention the

2166
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 3: other stuff that happened with him behind the scenes there.

2167
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,639
Speaker 3: You know, is he in the Phoenix Sun's front office

2168
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:13,759
Speaker 3: now he's in some lower level role, or he's just friends.

2169
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 3: He would he would have fit perfectly with the past,

2170
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Speaker 3: the ownership group with the Sun. So I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know, you know what, I probably shouldn't

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01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 4: speculator go there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the case or not. So

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Speaker 3: what do you think overall, because you're talking about I

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01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 3: think the twenty eight to twenty nine season, the earliest

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01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 3: will be twenty twenty eight that we're talking about actually implementing,

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01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 3: So two more seasons after this before we got to

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Speaker 3: these expansion teams being realized.

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Speaker 2: Because look, you still have to vote yes, you have

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01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 2: to find buyers, they have to get names and logos.

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01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 2: All this stuff ends up taking time years in advance

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Speaker 2: before the.

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Speaker 4: Actual Seattle's got some logos. Let me tell you that

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01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 4: absolutely helps. And they're going to get their records back

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01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 4: from the thunder, which they should.

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Speaker 3: If they didn't get an expansion team this time around.

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01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 3: Howid robbers Seattle didn't get it.

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01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:58,599
Speaker 4: Okay, that is part of my argument.

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Speaker 3: I do love this Seattle Supersonic so much and played

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01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 3: with them so much an NBA jam and I was

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01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 3: a fan of them in the nineties and Sean Camp

2192
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 3: was one of everybody's favorite players to watch out there.

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01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:12,759
Speaker 3: There is a great nostalgia pool. And they got screwed

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01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:16,560
Speaker 3: because they didn't know what that new owner who was

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01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 3: at Howard Schultz from Starbucks. Behind the scenes, they knew

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01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 3: that new owner, the NBA knew he was going to

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01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 3: move the team, and they acted like that wasn't going

2198
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 3: to happen when new ownership took over. There's a total

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Speaker 3: screw job hashtag Sonics Gate.

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01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,759
Speaker 2: This guy was an Oklahoma City businessman. Everybody knew exactly

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Speaker 2: what the situation was.

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Speaker 3: So if this happens and Seattle isn't one of the

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01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 3: teams awarded an expansion franchise, I.

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01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 4: Mighty like, I'm not even I'm not from Seattle.

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of the Sonics, though obviously theither

2207
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 2: were a great historic franchise. I will storm the NBA

2208
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 2: offices and pick it outside front.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go in there flying.

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01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 4: I'm going to go in their flying man. Read this

2211
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 4: like it's supposed to be read, because I've.

2212
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 3: Had it Vegas.

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01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 2: I'm a little more iffy about to be honest with you.

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01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 2: I just don't know how well they'll sustain. I really

2215
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 2: want to see what they do with the with the

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01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 2: A's and see how that situation gets off the ground

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01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 2: in a couple of years.

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Speaker 4: Wait a second, my Sacramento A's are gonna be taken away?

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01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 2: Your Sacramento A's, Yes, playing in their their illustrious twelve

2221
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 2: thousand seat whatever stadium they're playing in.

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01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 4: Well, it's gonna be magical.

2223
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 3: Is because a field of dreams type look there exactly

2224
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 3: when they go on to win the World Series, there's

2225
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 3: gonna be nothing.

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01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 4: Else like it.

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01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 3: Those tickets, man, than anything else. If high price when

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01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 3: you only have twelve thousand people.

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01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 2: There have thoughts on NBA expansion, yay or nay on

2230
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 2: Seattle and or Las Vegas. Give us a shout. Eight

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01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 2: seven seven ninety nine on Fox is the telephone number.

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01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 2: You can also hit us up on next at KFIG

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Speaker 2: one and at follow Adam a as well.

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Speaker 3: Coming up your phone calls and more. NBA and somebody

2235
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 3: went into the Hall of Fame today, the NBA Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think it's that time of the year.

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Speaker 4: We'll tell you who it was next.

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Speaker 3: We lost a good roundhouse kick today, Chuck. Chuck Norris

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Speaker 3: dead at the age of eighty six.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, did you know?

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01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 3: Uh, Chuck Norris can light a fire rubbing two ice

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01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 3: cubes together, only Chuck.

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: When Chuck Norris filled out his NCAA bracket, he didn't

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Speaker 3: predict the games.

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Speaker 4: Every team checked his picks to see whether they were

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Speaker 4: allowed to win.

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01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 3: Makes sense to me. Chuck Norris once killed two stones

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01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 3: with one bird. His diaries called the Guinness Book of

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01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:16,560
Speaker 3: World Records. Chuck Norris actually once touched mc hammer. No,

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01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,440
Speaker 3: because you can't touch it, I understand.

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01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 4: He can see John Cena.

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Speaker 3: His Gmail account is Gmail at Chuck Norris dot com.

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01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 3: And lastly, Chuck Norris was in all the Star Wars movies.

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Speaker 3: He was the Force use the Fall. Coming up, we

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01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 3: got Brandon's block. Maybe he'll gloat about last week talking

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01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 3: about Luka Doncic and how he should be in the

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01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 3: MVP conversation and act he should be above Sgafar Brandon.

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Speaker 4: I would personally that's what I do. I take my victory.

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01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 4: Lat I got a pretty good rebuttal if he goes

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01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,600
Speaker 4: there on tonight, so we'll see, you know.

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01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 2: So, there was a video a pretty big move that

2274
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 2: was made in the NFL earlier this week, and some

2275
01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 2: people are not poo pooing it. There's a little bit

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01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 2: bit of criticism going towards the Denver Broncos that I

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01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 2: don't fully understand. So they swing a trade for Jalen

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01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 2: Wattle from the Miami Dolphins, and last week we opened

2279
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 2: up the show talking about all the quarterback moves when

2280
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 2: it came to free agency and how they oh, they

2281
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 2: signed Malik Willison. Yeah, you know, they don't have Tyreek

2282
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 2: Kill anymore, but they still have Jayden the Wattle, well

2283
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 2: he's gone, and who they're.

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01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 3: Throwing the ball to out there in Miami.

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01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

2286
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 3: Maybe they're gonna run the single wing with Devon h

2287
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 3: Chan and Malik Willis and just do it that way

2288
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 3: or something.

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01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 4: They're definitely screwed U, I can tell you that much.

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01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 2: Denver sitting out the thirtieth pick in the first round,

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01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 2: so basically so as low as a first round pick,

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01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 2: as you can have one of the last three in

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01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 2: the first a third round pick, and the fourth round

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01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 2: pick to the Dolphins for Waddle and a fourth And

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01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 2: some people are saying, because it doesn't match up with

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01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 2: this forty year old whatever chart that Jimmy Johnson made

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01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 2: years ago, that they got screwed or something, and that

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01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 2: this was a horrible trade for the Denver Broncos. I

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01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 2: don't understand that notion whatsoever. It seems totally ridiculous to me.

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Speaker 2: You're telling me a team that was knocking on the

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01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:02,560
Speaker 2: door of going to the Super Bowl last year that

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01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 2: had a hole at playmaker, at receiver.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say a quarterback when

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01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 3: bow Knicks wasn't even able to play in the AFC

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01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 3: Championship game.

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Speaker 4: Well, that didn't hurt when he got injured because he

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01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 4: was taking a knee in a Yeah, but even with that,

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01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 4: he had a hole in his head when he was

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Speaker 4: taking that.

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Speaker 2: Their offensive inconsistency was a big reason for that was

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01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 2: the fact that, yes, their running game, which they need

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01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 2: to improve greatly as well, was not having a lot

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01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 2: of weapons for bow Nicks to be able to throw too.

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01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:32,680
Speaker 2: So I think this fills a glaring hole and you

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01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 2: only have to give up the thirtieth pick in the draft,

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01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 2: which who the hell knows who that's gonna be, and

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01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 2: a couple of other draft picks for a proven commodity,

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01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 2: one of the best deep threats in the entire league,

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01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 2: and a guy who can you can throw a five

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01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 2: yard dump off and he can take it to the house.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this seems like an easy decision to me.

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01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 2: I don't know where the criticism comes from. I don't

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01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 2: understand it.

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Speaker 4: My philosophy, how old is Waddle at this point mid twenties.

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01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 4: He's not even thirty. I'll look it up, but there's

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01:45:57,880 --> 01:45:58,799
Speaker 4: no way he's thirty.

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01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 3: Because he entire recourse supposed to be the best receiver

2329
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 3: combo in the league for the next five to seven

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01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 3: years or something like that. Well, that's how we suffered

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01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 3: the devastating injury, obviously, and suffered from having Tua as

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01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 3: his quarterback. But help. My philosophy is you have to

2333
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 3: get yourself to a point where there's enough weapons around

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01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 3: your young quarterback to take away excuses so you can

2335
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 3: evaluate that young quarterback to know how good he really is,

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01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 3: where his ceiling is and if he can be a

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01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 3: Super Bowl winning quarterback in bow Knicks in this case,

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01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 3: so I want to surround him with talent so I

2339
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 3: can say, like with Tua, he had enough around him.

2340
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 3: They had holes, you know, defense, they had some defensive line.

2341
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:46,560
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I think we know where his ceiling was,

2342
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 3: like there was enough talent there. I don't know where

2343
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,479
Speaker 3: bo Nicks's ceiling is. I know the defense is so

2344
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 3: damn good it covers up for a lot right now.

2345
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 2: But you saw flashes last year of what bow Knicks

2346
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 2: could be, especially in clutch situations. He had what led

2347
01:47:03,240 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 2: the league and fourth quarter comebacks was amazing in clutch

2348
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 2: situations last season. And that's without having again a whole

2349
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 2: lot of weapons to throw to outside of sudden So

2350
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 2: now you add and this is another aspect of it too.

2351
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 2: You always talk about when you have a good young

2352
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 2: quarterback who you think you can win with, surround him

2353
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 2: with enough weapons before you feel compelled to have to

2354
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:24,680
Speaker 2: pay him, like the Dolphins did with Tua, overpay him.

2355
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 2: And now you find yourself in a situation we have

2356
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 2: to dismantle the entire roster and eat almost one hundred

2357
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 2: million dollars in dead money in his contract. Try to

2358
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,640
Speaker 2: surround your young talented quarterback with as many weapons as

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01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 2: you can as early as you can, to see if

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01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 2: you can actually try to win a championship before you

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01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:40,640
Speaker 2: actually have to pay him. It's this was one of

2362
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 2: the smartest moves the Broncos could have made.

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01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 4: I think that's the key. There is John Elway, my man?

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01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 3: Is he still in charge?

2365
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 4: Is this John Elway's team?

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01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 1: Sill?

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01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 3: No, he is not. What do you mean?

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01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 4: No, John's been going for a little bit.

2369
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 5: Now.

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01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 4: What is he helping the arena football team to crush

2371
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 4: or whatever it.

2372
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 3: Was he helping the arena team anymore?

2373
01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 4: I think he started there. That was he did start.

2374
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 4: He was the general man, and maybe even part of

2375
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 4: all think they want.

2376
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 6: They did.

2377
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:05,719
Speaker 4: They won a couple of Arena Bowls. I believe Olrarence crushed.

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01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 3: They won it.

2379
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 2: But by the way I would say, if I'm in

2380
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 2: the AFC West and I'm a fan of someone who

2381
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 2: needs a receiver, if I were a Charger fan, I'd

2382
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 2: be pissed. And by the way they are because I've

2383
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 2: seen some Charger Twitter things pop up on my timeline

2384
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 2: over the past weekend. There they really they were not

2385
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:21,639
Speaker 2: happy they missed out on the opening waiver free agency.

2386
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:23,719
Speaker 2: All they signed was like a blocking tight end or something,

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01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 2: which is right up Jim Harball's alley. But then Jalen Wattle,

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01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 2: a deep threat at receiver, which we all know is

2389
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 2: something that the Chargers desperately need, and they basically got

2390
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 2: him Denver did for a late first round pick and

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01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 2: a couple of later picks.

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01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 4: Well, you could have paired him with Mike McDonald. You

2393
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 4: could have had his old coach.

2394
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:45,599
Speaker 3: Should have been back with Mike McDonell offensive Mike McDaniel,

2395
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 3: excuse me, now, his offensive coordinator with the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Like you add him to Lamb McConkie and Gatston, who

2397
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 2: are two guys who could be chain movers, and Waddle

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01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 2: can be got to take you off the top of

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01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,439
Speaker 2: the defense. I would take the look, the Broncos have

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01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 2: pick number thirty, their Chargers have pick number twenty two.

2401
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 2: So if it took thirty, a fourth and a third

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01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:05,320
Speaker 2: to get Waddle at twenty two, it probably takes you

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01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 2: a twenty two and a fourth or maybe twenty the

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01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:09,679
Speaker 2: number twenty two pick and like a fifth and that's

2405
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 2: probably enough to get Jalen Wattle when you're telling me

2406
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 2: that's not enough for a proven receiver.

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01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 3: Wattle had nine hundred and ten yards and six touchdowns

2408
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 3: last year playing with who quarterback? Yeah, you know, with

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01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:24,720
Speaker 3: a lot of turnover Tongo Biloa, like a lot of

2410
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 3: issues going on there.

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01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 4: He's a stud. He's about to be twenty eight, yes,

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01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 4: entering his prime.

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01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 3: I agree with you.

2414
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 4: I don't understand the blowback either. Here.

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01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 3: The Broncos do have a chance because what you brought

2416
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 3: up is exactly how it has to be.

2417
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,639
Speaker 4: It's what Seattle was able to achieve with Russell Wilson

2418
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 4: early on before they had to.

2419
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 3: Pay everybody else and pay him. He's gonna get the

2420
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 3: most your stud quarterback. They were able to then bring

2421
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 3: in all that talent around him while he was still good,

2422
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 3: but other guys were maybe elevating him more at times.

2423
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 3: And then what happens is once you pay the quarterback,

2424
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 3: make sure you get that championship in like they did

2425
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 3: against Denver Coincidentally, here, once you pay the quarterback, well,

2426
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 3: now you're gonna lose some of those guys you had,

2427
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:18,720
Speaker 3: and now he has to elevate them, and now he

2428
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 3: has to return the favor and make some of the

2429
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 3: young guys you're drafting better around him. That's kind of

2430
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 3: the circle of life of an NFL team when it

2431
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 3: comes to managing the salary cap and working around that system.

2432
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 3: So this is Denver's time to say strike while the

2433
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 3: iron is hot. You don't know necessarily how good bon

2434
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,719
Speaker 3: Knicks can be, but I know how good that defense

2435
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:43,679
Speaker 3: is right now, and I'm inclined to say they're definitely

2436
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 3: a contender at least.

2437
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:46,440
Speaker 4: Oh, even if you're a contender.

2438
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 3: You get a few breaks, a couple of things go

2439
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 3: your way, you could win it all, especially getting out

2440
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:51,640
Speaker 3: of the AFC.

2441
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 4: Right now, which doesn't seem that difficult.

2442
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:54,720
Speaker 2: Look, you mentioned the fact that boon Nicks didn't play

2443
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 2: in the ANFC title game, and that was nip and tuck.

2444
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 4: You know, look, if they kicked that.

2445
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 3: Field goal in the first half instead of going forward down,

2446
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 3: they might win that game anyway, even without bon Nicks

2447
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:03,479
Speaker 3: being in being.

2448
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 4: Pretty incredible, So Patriots were obviously frauds. Well are we

2449
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,719
Speaker 4: big in Boston no longer?

2450
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,640
Speaker 2: Exactly? Hey, you no complaints for me? I have no

2451
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 2: love loss for the Patriot franchise.

2452
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 4: Well, they could do the same thing that may could.

2453
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 4: Absolutely he needs more help. Honestly, the level he played

2454
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 4: at this season in some of the deep ball throws

2455
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 4: that he made, it's pretty remarkable with that offensive line.

2456
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, with Stefon Diggs as his number one receiver, he's

2457
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 3: gone now coming off an ACL.

2458
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 2: Like, that's some star potential right there, with considering what

2459
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 2: he did with how little he had to work with.

2460
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 3: I might also be upset if I'm a Patriots fan

2461
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 3: seeing Waddell go to Denver.

2462
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they look there were deep talks as far

2463
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 2: as getting A. J.

2464
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 4: Brown or somebody else. Is that happening. I don't know

2465
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen.

2466
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 3: With the A. J.

2467
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 4: Brown situation, to be honest with you, it's the honest situation.

2468
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 4: But in Philadelphia it really is.

2469
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 2: I think his price tag is probably just not what

2470
01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 2: they think that it is. As talented as he is

2471
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 2: a giant knucklehead, and I just don't know if teams

2472
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 2: want to deal with it.

2473
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,640
Speaker 4: But he's so damn talented. Yeah, but you have to

2474
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:07,599
Speaker 4: weigh whether or not the talent is worth the headache.

2475
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 4: It to be worth it, Yeah, if you think he

2476
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 4: can get you over the top. He's in a winning environment.

2477
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 2: Now, by the way, won a Super Bowl, played in

2478
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 2: another one in Philadelphia, was that. I mean, it's not

2479
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 2: like it'd be different if he was playing in Cleveland

2480
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:22,679
Speaker 2: or for the Raiders for the past few years.

2481
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 4: You can't get in a much more winning culture, winning

2482
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:26,679
Speaker 4: environment than the Eagles.

2483
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 3: He kind of did the DeAndre Ayton changed his tune

2484
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,719
Speaker 3: by the end of the season where he was playing ball,

2485
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 3: so to speak, at the locker room and not saying, hey,

2486
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 3: get me the football after every game even if they win.

2487
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 3: I understand you're losing games, you're not as good as

2488
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,799
Speaker 3: you were the year before. You feel like you're adding

2489
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 3: that dynamic thread and you could be one of the

2490
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 3: reasons that you're helping win games. I can understand why

2491
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,840
Speaker 3: that's a little bit frustrating. But still, you had just

2492
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl. Maybe take a step back and

2493
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:00,160
Speaker 3: see how it plays out for there.

2494
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 4: Also a way to go about it too. Yeah, have

2495
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 4: some tact just a little bit, you know.

2496
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 2: Oh and also, by the way I looked this up,

2497
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:09,800
Speaker 2: as far as futures go, you realize the Broncos have

2498
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 2: like the thirteenth best odds right now. House That's what

2499
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:17,719
Speaker 2: I said. What's eighteen hundred. Right now, that's a pretty

2500
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 2: solid that's a pretty solid hundred.

2501
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2502
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 2: I might take a right out to Vegas because I

2503
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 2: can't bet out here in California. But I might take

2504
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 2: a roll out to Vegas and do it and put

2505
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:26,719
Speaker 2: to put some a couple of shekels. As Rob Parker

2506
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 2: would say, all the Broncos, why they hell are not?

2507
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 4: Did? I mean?

2508
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 3: What's eighteen hundred?

2509
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:31,639
Speaker 4: Who did they lose?

2510
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 3: Got me? Sean Payton still there, Shohn Payton's still there,

2511
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 3: but Nick is still there, Sutton is still there. Okay,

2512
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 3: they can improve on the offensive line, obviously.

2513
01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 4: I in the AFC, I think that's your best bet,

2514
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 4: best value bet. I should say not that I bet much.

2515
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 3: No, not in the least all Right, coming up next,

2516
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 3: we're betting on Brandon's block. Producer Brandon stepping up, gonna

2517
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:01,760
Speaker 3: lead on the nettory. I don't know what it could be.

2518
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

2519
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 3: We have not talked to Brandon about this coming in

2520
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 3: so maybe Luca related, maybe Chuck Norris related. Maybe he

2521
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 3: saw this one. When Chuck Norris gets pulled over, he

2522
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:16,479
Speaker 3: lets the cops off with a warning, more f and.

2523
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 4: A closing things out here on Fox.

2524
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:21,200
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2525
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:24,639
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2527
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Speaker 3: So let's people deserve for.

2529
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 4: FNA Cotton FNA on FSR. I'm out a Moslin. He's

2530
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 4: Kevin figures.

2531
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Speaker 4: Again.

2537
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 3: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

2538
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:02,400
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01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 3: right after we get off the air.

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01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 4: Here Kevin, before we do, Yes, you know Chuck Norris

2541
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 4: died today. He was a six. I got three more

2542
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:11,920
Speaker 4: Chuck Norris facts.

2543
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 3: Okay, hit me now.

2544
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 4: I didn't write this. This may be wrong, wrong, I

2545
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:18,160
Speaker 4: don't know.

2546
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:21,560
Speaker 3: It depends on how you interpret it. Chuck Norris once

2547
01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 3: told a woman to calm down, and she did. Wow,

2548
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 3: I didn't popped up on my feet here. Uh. Chuck

2549
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:35,440
Speaker 3: Norris's daughter lost her virginity. He got it back.

2550
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 1: I made money.

2551
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 3: Wow.

2552
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 4: And lastly, Chuck Norris didn't die. He told death he

2553
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 4: was coming.

2554
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 3: I love that.

2555
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 4: That's great second line from a movie. That's perfect. Hell's coming.

2556
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 3: He's come up with me, damn it.

2557
01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 2: I was coming down the home stretch here on fn

2558
01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 2: A on FSR producer Brandon we come in with Brandon's block.

2559
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,800
Speaker 4: Oh you have your own intro music A lot. Yeah, no, no,

2560
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 4: we are Yeah. Mom was win from Mark to cue

2561
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 4: the music. It was hot. The block is hot. I

2562
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 4: wanted to bring up what.

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01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 5: We were talking about earlier today and the NBA expansion,

2564
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 5: because I agree with a lot of Adam's points with

2565
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 5: you know, the NBA, there's enough role players that can

2566
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 5: come in and contribute right now for a new team.

2567
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 5: And I think, besides the fact that all these tanking

2568
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 5: teams aren't playing after players like Cheney Johnson all of

2569
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 5: a sudden didn't play all year, Brooklyn Nets are playing

2570
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 5: him thirty five forty minutes a game right now, like

2571
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 5: Josh might not.

2572
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:38,880
Speaker 4: All these guys right.

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01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 5: It reminds me of a time when everyone's like anti expansion,

2574
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:47,120
Speaker 5: when the COVID stuff was happening. Brandon Williams is putting

2575
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 5: up like twenty five and ten a game in Portland.

2576
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 5: He was dominating Omar Yertzevin was putting up twenty and

2577
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 5: ten every game, like these guys can ball. And this

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01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 5: leads me to my next point. I think a lot

2579
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 5: of the MBA is design touches. I think if you

2580
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 5: gave enough of these talented players like Okay, well we

2581
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 5: know what cole and this is a bad example, but

2582
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 5: Kawhi Leonard, for example, we know he's better than most

2583
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 5: players in the NBA, but they give him a lot

2584
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 5: of design touches.

2585
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 4: Shake gilg just Alexander design touches. These are proven superstars.

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01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 5: I'm not saying Isaiah Joe or Aaron Wiggins could do that,

2587
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 5: but if Aaron Wiggins had to, we've seen him score

2588
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 5: forty points in a game.

2589
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 1: Right.

2590
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 4: If you run the tight guy guy exactly, that's the

2591
01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:30,120
Speaker 4: tenth guy. So a lot of it is design touches.

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01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 5: The problem with the NBA and why they're behind the

2593
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 5: leagues right now in terms of popularity, I would think

2594
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 5: and growing popularity like MLB even maybe hockey worldwide and

2595
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 5: stuff like the NBA is losing fans because they really

2596
01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 5: should have expanded five years ago. To Seattle or in Vegas. Personally,

2597
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 5: I think Silver waited way too long. I think there

2598
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 5: was a huge opening po like pre and post COVID

2599
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 5: with tons of players like Mac mcglungs everything twenty eight

2600
01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 5: a game. And you don't think he put up ten

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01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 5: to fifty team on an expansion team right now.

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01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:03,920
Speaker 3: It would on a bad expansion team.

2603
01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 4: He's given up thirty. On the other end, the reason

2604
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 4: why Mad mclong's not in the league right now too,

2605
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:09,320
Speaker 4: that's the problem, you know.

2606
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 3: I agree there's enough talent. I do, especially because we

2607
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 3: have such a talented draft coming up. So that's only

2608
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 3: going to help things.

2609
01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 2: And it will widen the distribution to a certain degree.

2610
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 2: And maybe you're not hoarding a bunch of really good

2611
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 2: players on the same teams, and we'd have more single

2612
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 2: superstar teams or doubles as opposed to we don't have

2613
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:27,200
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, big time, big time trios anymore.

2614
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 2: But having more talent, good talent spread out around the

2615
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:31,960
Speaker 2: league is not a bad thing.

2616
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 4: I'll say that in the East needs more talent.

2617
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 3: It's needed it for thirty years.

2618
01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:39,879
Speaker 5: The Jazz would make If the Jazz played all their players,

2619
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 5: they would be probably the five or six seed in

2620
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 5: the East. If they played Andy, it's definitely possible.

2621
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:51,400
Speaker 3: Probably the other wrinkle to this is if it's Vegas

2622
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:54,160
Speaker 3: and Seattle, they're going to have to move a team

2623
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 3: from the West to the East, and it's either going

2624
01:58:57,080 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 3: to be Memphis, New Orleans or Minnesota.

2625
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:02,840
Speaker 4: To be Minnesota, Minnesota makes the most sense.

2626
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 3: And that's like when in the bleeping lottery getting to

2627
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 3: go to the Eastern Conference.

2628
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:11,400
Speaker 4: They would run that, Oh yeah, and that's how they

2629
01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:14,760
Speaker 4: would hold onto Ant, like Ant's never leaving if you're

2630
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 4: in the East. I think that's a huge part of this.

2631
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 4: Somebody actually on Twitter earlier bring that up to you. Yes,

2632
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 4: I like the expansion, and he happens to be a

2633
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 4: Minnesota fan. Yeah, you want that.

2634
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 5: But then another thing is like Brooklyn, like I was saying,

2635
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:33,040
Speaker 5: was playing these guys like Cheney Johnson and Josh Miyo.

2636
01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 5: Those guys aren't going to be getting like minutes next

2637
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:38,800
Speaker 5: year in the NBA. If it's an expansion, like then

2638
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 5: these guys who are possibly productive, I know they're losing games,

2639
01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 5: but they're putting up numbers and the efficiency is pretty good.

2640
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:47,920
Speaker 5: They can now get opportunities on other teams. These are

2641
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 5: like G League players, you know what I mean. Well,

2642
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:50,560
Speaker 5: that's another thing.

2643
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:54,600
Speaker 3: I think we also overreact to just teams losing. Like Kevin,

2644
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:57,200
Speaker 3: we were just doing some research behind the scenes, looking

2645
01:59:57,280 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 3: up the Saint Louis Rams and where they were odds

2646
02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 3: wise heading into the ninety nine season when they went

2647
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:05,840
Speaker 3: on to beat the Titans in the Super Bowl with

2648
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 3: Kurt Warner, and they.

2649
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 4: Were four and twelve. There were four and twelve the

2650
02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 4: year before, and they weren't the worst wrecker in the league.

2651
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 4: There were two teams that had three wins.

2652
02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:19,200
Speaker 2: Fourth, there are two teams that had three wins, two

2653
02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:21,040
Speaker 2: that had four wins, and a couple of that five.

2654
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:22,160
Speaker 2: There are some bad teams.

2655
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 3: I think you look across years, you go through history,

2656
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:28,440
Speaker 3: you're always going to see.

2657
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:31,240
Speaker 4: Just bottom dwellers. That is the math. That's how it

2658
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 4: worked to happen.

2659
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:35,360
Speaker 3: Teams that are winning sixty games, you're gonna have teams

2660
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 3: that are winning twenty games in there too.

2661
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:41,080
Speaker 5: In this draft, this is a shameless tanking here. Next

2662
02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:43,040
Speaker 5: year you won't see this kind of tanking because it's

2663
02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:46,280
Speaker 5: not going to be even ten like half of what

2664
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:47,080
Speaker 5: this draft is.

2665
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:50,360
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I the argument against expansion I guess

2666
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:52,720
Speaker 2: is people are saying that there's not a lot of interest.

2667
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:56,280
Speaker 2: The ratings are down now, so you're adding more of

2668
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 2: a product of something that the public quote unquote doesn't

2669
02:00:59,120 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 2: necessarily want.

2670
02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 3: I'm me saying it. I love the NBA.

2671
02:01:02,360 --> 02:01:03,680
Speaker 4: I have no problem with it whatsoever.

2672
02:01:04,160 --> 02:01:06,760
Speaker 2: But the argument against expansion is people are not watching

2673
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:08,480
Speaker 2: what you have now, so are we adding more to it?

2674
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:10,880
Speaker 3: I think well, first of all, the new media wized

2675
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:14,160
Speaker 3: deals like ninety billion dollars, they keep going up, so

2676
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:17,920
Speaker 3: they're never losing money there. I think part of the

2677
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:21,080
Speaker 3: problem with the NBA is it is as simple and

2678
02:01:21,320 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 3: stupid as politics, Blue versus red stuff, and it's Jordan

2679
02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:30,680
Speaker 3: versus Lebron James, and too much of the NBA narrative

2680
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:34,360
Speaker 3: and conversation debates going on over the last ten years

2681
02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:38,040
Speaker 3: is old heads holding on to Jordan's legacy and trying

2682
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:42,520
Speaker 3: to defend that and the modern kids they think Lebron's

2683
02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:44,720
Speaker 3: their goat, and that has hurt the NBA.

2684
02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:46,000
Speaker 4: Voices of the league.

2685
02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:49,640
Speaker 2: Analysts are talking trash about the sport to the sport

2686
02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:52,360
Speaker 2: that's not helping your own calls either, makes no sense.

2687
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:52,800
Speaker 3: Good stuff.

2688
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 2: Brandon appreciate it Man, Thank you, Mark, Project Nil coming

2689
02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 2: up next on Fox Sports Radio.

2690
02:01:57,320 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 3: Talk to you next week.