1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, time, Luck and Load. Michael 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Verie Show is on the air, Ted Cruise. Ted Cruz 3 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: sat down with Tucker Carlson and had a spirited discussion 4 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: about America's involvement in the Israel Iran conflict, and Tucker 5 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: takes the position that this is not our word to fight, 6 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: that is not a threat to the extent that they 7 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: have been portrayed. Now, I don't think Tucker Carlson is 8 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: an idiot, and I don't think he is prone to 9 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: take positions that he doesn't believe or that defy logic. 10 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: For whatever reason. Toolsey Gabbert a couple of months ago 11 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: said that Iran does not have nuclear capability, nor are 12 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: they anywhere near it. 13 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: Now. 14 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: If you say that to someone who has followed American 15 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: news day in and day out, they'll say, you crazy, 16 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of crazy. That's What's Hitler did. Were you crazy? Well, 17 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that Toolsey said that in 18 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: bad faith. I don't, and you're free to disagree with that. 19 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: But a lot of our conversations get reduced to ad 20 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: hominem attacks. So all of a sudden, we're told that 21 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Tulsy Gabbard's about you know, she's a Democrat. Yeah, but 22 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: you didn't have a problem when she was nominated or confirmed. 23 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: You didn't have a problem with that. When that Democrat 24 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: was campaigning for Donald Trump. You didn't have a problem 25 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: with that democrat was criticizing Joe Biden in the Democrat 26 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: National Committee. You didn't have a problem when she was 27 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: saying exactly what you already felt. But the moment that she, 28 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, says something with which you disagree, you 29 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: fall back on the premise that she's a bad person 30 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: because you don't want to hear her say something with 31 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: which you don't already read. It's more comforting to be 32 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: spoon fed the same stuff every day, and when that 33 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: stuff is what you've already agreed to, it's easier than 34 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: having to think anew about a complex issue. Likewise, there 35 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: are people claiming that Ted Cruz is an idiot because 36 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: they love Tucker, and Tucker is well spoken. Tucker started 37 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: life as a writer, not a speaker, and typically people 38 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: who start in writing instead of speaking tend to be 39 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: better debaters and presenters of thought because they structure their thought. 40 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: They structure it in a way that is more logical 41 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: and more convincing. People who speak have a tendency to entertain, 42 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: but they fail to in a scientific, analytical way. They 43 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: fail to structure things properly well. Ted Cruz is the 44 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: best debater alive in American politics. That's not even up 45 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: for debate. I love Donald Trump, but you will recall 46 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump did not debate him one on one. 47 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: That's not a sign of weakness. That's a sign that 48 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: you wonder how much of this Trump has of understanding 49 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: when you don't have the better cards. When Trump said 50 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the cards I do, it was a 51 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: great reflection of Trump. One of Trump's greatest skills, and 52 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: that is understanding where power is. Trump doesn't walk into 53 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: a firefight undermanned or undergunned. He waits until he has reinforcements. 54 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: He waits until the moment that he can win. It's 55 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: not a sign of weakness, it's a sign of maturity 56 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: and a strategic vision. So you have two people that 57 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: I respect a lot, both for their skill set and 58 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: for their thought process, arguing a position that both of 59 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: them five years ago held, but Tucker has changed. The 60 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: unfortunate thing is I think that at our peril we 61 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: dismiss the thoughts of people like Tucker Carlson on an 62 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: issue like this. If you say, and who doesn't want 63 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: Iran bombed into the Stone ages? I mean, honestly, They've 64 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: attempted to assassinate President Trump. They've caused death and destruction 65 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: throughout Eastern Africa. The houtis at their demand, at their control. 66 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: If they had their way, they'd topple Saudi Arabia and 67 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: create a real problem for the world. They've managed to 68 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: kill through their insurgents that they've trained and armed a 69 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: number of Americans in Iraq. Their involvement with Hesbalah is documented. 70 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: They're bad. They're a bad, bad regime, and I hate them. 71 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: I would like to see them destroyed, not the Irani people, 72 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: and best we can tell, the majority of Irani people 73 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: would like to either flee Iran or return Iran to 74 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: what it once was, which was a wonderful place to live. 75 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: If you look at the twenty five years under the 76 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: Shah Paulavi from seventy nine back to I think it's 77 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: fifty two, Iran was a place at American tourists people 78 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: around the world would go to visit, cuisine, art, literature, film, 79 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: iranis have a knack for film that rivals Americans, Indians, French, English, 80 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: and if that country is ever free again, you are 81 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: going to see an absolute explosion in film because out 82 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: of repression, out of repression comes great artistic creation. And 83 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: believe it or not, those films are going to be 84 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: compelling and you're going to want to watch them, and 85 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Netflix is going to go find the best and brightest. 86 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: There are still bootleg films being created that are very 87 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: very good, all things considered a low budget filming under 88 00:07:53,880 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: circumstances of fear of death, because they're the great They're 89 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: the great stories of our time. It's like after the 90 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: Salem Witch Trials, how much great literature came out. 91 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: Of How could we live through this? You have to 92 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: tell that story in art. What do you do is 93 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: foller artify with shamp What's baby? Right now you are 94 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: going into the Michael Berry Show. Keep it like right here, 95 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 3: More truth on the way, more honest opinions come in 96 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: at you right here. 97 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: Only on the Michael Berry Show. 98 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: I've met in the course of my life, probably one 99 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: hundred people who I came to find out we're Gideons. 100 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: And I will tell you you will not find a 101 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: more decent, honorable, good group of folk than individuals who 102 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: get involved in putting a Bible in the bedside stand 103 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: of hotel els that brought more traveling salesman to the 104 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: Lord than every revival combined. It's amazing. It's absolutely amazing. 105 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: It's the old adage. It's the old admonition to plant 106 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: a tree whose shade you'll never enjoy, the idea that 107 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: they are doing something whose reward they will never see, 108 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: but just trusting that is a good thing. We talked 109 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: to Luke Mathias earlier in the week about the state 110 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: legislative session that just concluded, and I told you at 111 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: the time that this was one of three discussions we 112 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: would be having. The other would be with Brandon Walton's 113 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: of Texas Scorecard, and the final with the Grand Puba 114 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: of Texas Scorecard, Michael Quinn Sullivan, whose coverage of the 115 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: state legislature through Texas Scorecard is in my opinion, unrivaled 116 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: and the best. I read it daily. It's wonderful and 117 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: he is our Yes, Michael, welcome to the program. Hey, 118 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: it's great to be with you, my friend. 119 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: I all to your opening monologue that was we need 120 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 2: more common sense, particularly think about these issues of life 121 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 2: and death of people thousands of miles away. And I 122 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: so appreciated getting to getting to hear that we need 123 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 2: we need, we need a lot more thoughtful. 124 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: Discussions here, and I appreciate it well, Michael quin Sullivan. 125 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: As you know, I am less worried about how people 126 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: come down on an issue, how they conclude what they decide, 127 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: and more worried that people will be presented with enough 128 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: information and that the conversation be open. It is the 129 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: idea that you close conversation by suggesting that anyone who 130 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: dares have it is a bad person. That's how you 131 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: get to bad, bad results. Michael quin Sullivan, Texas a 132 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: scorecard who does wonderful work. Following the state legislative session. 133 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: So let's talk about Let's talk broadly and then we'll 134 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: get more granular, will narrow. How would you describe I 135 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: think most of our listeners probably aligned with your views 136 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: on what we want for our state, not our party, 137 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: not any individual, but our state, our children, our schools, 138 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: our streets, our homes, our taxes. How would you describe 139 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: this session for folks who believe as you and I do? Yeah, 140 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, this was a legislative session that. 141 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: In some ways kind of reverted to the mean of 142 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: the of the early two thousands, where you know, some 143 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: good things were done, some dumb things were done, and 144 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: there were a lot of missed opportunities. And I think 145 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: that Republicans are now hitting middle age as it relates 146 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: to running state government in Texas. We have now been 147 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's been nineteen ninety four was the last 148 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 2: time a Democrat was elected state wide in Texas, and 149 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: so we can no longer say, well, you know, we're 150 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 2: still trying to figure things out. No, you're you're graying, 151 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: and you're getting a bald spot, right, you know, you're 152 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: no longer a kid, which was kind of the excuse 153 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: given at various points when Republicans didn't get things done. 154 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: And I think the very practical governance that people affect 155 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: is weird. I think there have been some missed opportunities, 156 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: whether you're talking about property taxes, talking about maybe some 157 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: bailable form issues, it's various things that affect people's real 158 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 2: lives every day. And that's where I think that for 159 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: for Republicans for the state, I feel like we've come 160 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: missed to the mark, and that we end up talking 161 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: about very high, high folutant topics, and we sometimes forget 162 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: that there are, you know, thirty million real people whose 163 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: lives are impacted today. It's not an esoteric discussion. Real 164 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: lives are affected today by the actions that are or 165 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: not taken. I think that sometimes our politicians have been 166 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: missing out on that. 167 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: I really like. I'm an analogy guy, and I find 168 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: that the parables of the Bible helped me understand concepts 169 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: far better, perhaps than a more direct assertion. I find 170 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: allegory to be useful, analogy to be useful, anecdotes to 171 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: be useful. I love your description of the Republican Party 172 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: as this sort of living being who has achieved an 173 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: age and where he is. It's an interesting way to 174 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: present that. Let's talk to begin with, because you've been 175 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: very involved over the years, in fact, even personally involved. 176 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the defeat, the fall of drunk Dad 177 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: as speaker and his session individually, and then let's get 178 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: into if you would dustin Burrows and how that happened 179 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: and go from there. 180 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, you know, a daid feeling just made a 181 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 2: royal mess of the Texas House enough so that he 182 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: was his faith flaw as Speaker of the House, was 183 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: it the Speaker of the House, whether a Republican or Democrat, whatever, 184 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: the majorities are. The job of the Speaker of the House, 185 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 2: the unwritten job. The most important job is to make 186 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: sure that the incumbent members don't lose elections, you know, 187 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: making sure that those incumbent members can can pass the 188 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: local bills, can have the resolutions honoring JV soccer teams, whatever. 189 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: And Dade Feeling made a mess of that. He made 190 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: a mess event both operationally in the House. He made 191 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: a mess of it as he pushed this weird vendetta 192 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: against Ken Paxton, made a mess of it by sticking 193 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: his finger in the in the eye of the governor 194 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: on school choice. 195 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: Just issue after issue after issue. 196 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: Daide Feeling put members of the House in arms way 197 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: politically and including himself. Now you think back of like 198 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: Tom Kraddock, the first Republican Speaker, who has literally been 199 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: in the Texas Legislature since before man walked on the moon. 200 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: And he's still in the legislature. He won't be in 201 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: the legislature long after you and I are you die 202 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: of old age and our grandchildren are voting. I mean 203 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: the guy is just a force of nature in Texas politics, 204 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: and he always made sure people got to get things, 205 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: get things done. Daide Feeling did not. Dade Feeling put 206 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: people in harm's way. Daide Feeling ended up. I'm almost 207 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: losing his own election. No way he was going to 208 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: be speaker. No one wanted him, and they had to 209 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,479 Speaker 2: replace him. And that's how we define him with Dustin Burroughs. 210 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: And we'll talk about that, what was past, what wasn't 211 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: and why property taxes never seemed to matter coming up? 212 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: Hey, what to do? 213 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: Was Barlow or people champing? Right now, you're listening to 214 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: the Michael Berry soon. 215 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: Michael Quinn Sullivan of Texas Scorecard. If you're not a subscriber, 216 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: I encourage you to the state legislature does not get 217 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: very much coverage. You know what's going on to a 218 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: large degree in Washington because Fox News nationalized political coverage. 219 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: So whether you live in Idaho, Vermont, Florida, Texas, Arkansas, 220 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: you find out what Nancy Pelosi and now Mike Johnson 221 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: and those folks are up to. Because it's sort of 222 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: like when you watch a game and they say, you know, 223 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: Magic Johnson versus Larry Bird well, there are a few 224 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: other people playing this game, but it makes it easier 225 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: to hype this thing and to cover this thing. So 226 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: the state legislature operates largely in the dark because the 227 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: economies of scale aren't there. The newspapers have cut back 228 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: their staff, and KTRH actually used to have an Austin bureau. 229 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: It made sense to do that. It doesn't anymore, but 230 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: it used to be the case. Even our home station 231 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: would send reporters up to live in Austin during the session. 232 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: So as more and more newspapers have pulled back from 233 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: primary coverage and radio stations, you have less and less 234 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 1: coverage and the old line democracy dies in darkness. Well, 235 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: bad things happen when there is no transparency. The Great 236 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Lewis Brandeis famously said sunlight's the best disinfectant. So it's 237 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: very important that people like Michael quinn Sullivan do what 238 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: he does, and that's why I encourage the work that 239 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: he does. Michael quinn Sullivan as our guest, Michael, let's 240 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: talk about Dustin Burroughs, who was one of Drunk Dad's 241 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: top lieutenants. When drunk Dad gets pushed out, the lobby 242 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: always wins. They just replaced him with somebody just like him. 243 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: How would you compare the Burroughs session to previous drunk 244 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: daid sessions? Knowing that sixty Democrats gathered together and pulled 245 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: a few Republicans, so that basically the Democrats controlled the House, 246 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: and that's what we're left with, how would you describe 247 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: Burrows's leadership style and what happened in comparison to what 248 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: we knew of drunk David. 249 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So during this legislative session, I was as critical, 250 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: maybe more so than most on not only the process 251 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: employed by Burrows to become Speaker, but was very suspicious 252 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: of what he would then end up delivering. So with that, 253 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: with that as context, he ended up the session delivering 254 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: more wins for Conservatives than I thought he would be 255 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: able to deliver. Now that's not to say this was 256 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: a conservative session. That's not saying big wins, but it 257 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: is to say that compared to the last ten to 258 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: fifteen years day between Dade feel And and Dennis Bonden 259 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: and Joe Strauss, he did have the best session of 260 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: any event. That's a low bar, that's your miniature docs 261 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: and could jump over that bar kind of bar, but 262 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 2: it is something significant. So he did deliver more things 263 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: I thought possible on school choice, on a variety of issues, 264 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: he did. He did fulfill kind of some very basic 265 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 2: Republican promises. Now we can quibble over whether we liked 266 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: the school choice bill and other things, but the fact 267 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: is he did. He did deliver on those things as well. 268 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: And he led a lot of the conservative the guys 269 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: who voted against him and loudly voted against him. He 270 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: made sure the unlike drunk Day, that they were able 271 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 2: to pass legislation important to their districts, important to their 272 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: own re election efforts. So you do have to recognize it. 273 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: He did better than daid feel And I again, you're 274 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: recognize the bar. He very recognized the bar. Well, look, 275 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: I read your stuff literally every day. 276 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, it's funny when people meet 277 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: me and they finish my sentences, and it's weird to 278 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: me because if you listen every day, you become your 279 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: own version of AI. You know how I think, I 280 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: know how you think. I know you are a student 281 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: of history, and I knew I know that you study 282 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: things like power and how it is wielded, far beyond 283 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: the personalities that attempt to wielded, and that is a good, 284 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: a very good point. I don't know Dustin Boroughs. I 285 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: declared war on him over the way that he was 286 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: elected by the Democrats and how the Republicans allowed that 287 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: to happen. But you're right, those are the sorts of things. 288 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: And you know, Trump has a great skill, and that 289 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: is he's very transactional in his affection. He can turn 290 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: it on and off as he needs it, and he 291 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: has an incredible ability to make friends out of former enemies. 292 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: And so if Dustin Burroughs is going to do things 293 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: like that, that's that's that's going to inure to his benefit. 294 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: And that's an interesting point that I had not considered, 295 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: if even noticed at all. Let's talk about wins and losses. 296 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: But first I want to go back. There was an 297 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: instance a few years ago which is where you really 298 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: came to my attention, where you kind of exposed what 299 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: Dennis Bonden was up to. And I think there was 300 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: a recording involved. I don't know all the stories, but 301 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: that was where you really came on my radar as 302 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 1: a guy who was incredibly involved in all this. All 303 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: by way of saying, this isn't the first it's been 304 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: going on for decades that the Democrats in the minority 305 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: have effectively been choosing our Republican speaker. 306 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: Right right, and look at it, and that will continue, 307 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: and then, in some ways, I'm a broken record that 308 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: will continue until we, as the voter, say that we've 309 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: had enough, and many of us will pay lip service 310 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: to I don't like the fact that Republicans continue to 311 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: let Democrats drive to the bus. But then we turn 312 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: right around and we re elect our incumbent members of 313 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: the of the Legislature who are the ones who've been 314 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,239 Speaker 2: letting the Democrats drive the bos until enough of us 315 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: say enough is enough, until enough of us say enough 316 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: is enough, too many enough in that one sentence, Only 317 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: then will things start to change. Only then will Republicans 318 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: start to control the Texas Legislature. And then I think 319 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: that's where each one of us has to own our 320 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 2: responsibility in that, and that's where I have to give 321 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 2: some kudos to the Republican Party Chairman Abraham George, who 322 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: is now pushing forward to something that might actually make 323 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: that happen. That's closing the Republican primary. How the state 324 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: legislature isn't doing that. The state government doesn't want to 325 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: do it, but Abraham George and the Republican Party are 326 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: set to decide money to fight this, to ensure that 327 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: going in twenty twenty six, only Republicans can vote in 328 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: Republican primaries that will go some distance and making the 329 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: reality of us as voters saying we've had enough of 330 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: this deal making with Democrats in Austin. 331 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: I have a friend named Rachel Palmer Hooper who is 332 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: one of those people who works behind the scenes and 333 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: other people get credit for who's General Council of the 334 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: state Party. And she has been on a she's been 335 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: on the warpath for this issue, and it's the sort 336 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: of thing that the average voter doesn't notice. And you 337 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: don't know how these things happen, you know, because you 338 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: have to go to entire weekends of very very very 339 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: very boring and tedious Republican Party platform meetings and making 340 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: motions and all that. But somebody has to do this 341 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: right And I ain't the one to do it, and 342 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: the candidates and officeholders ain't the one to do it. 343 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: But if this is done, I think you are right. 344 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: I think it has the potential to change the people 345 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: that we get elected because why on earth should we 346 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: be allowing parties aren't the government. They're a creation of man, 347 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: not an outgrowth of government. They're not a legal, constitutional, 348 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: you know entity, the way the government should be. And 349 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: why shouldn't we choose who's going to pick our candidates? 350 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: And why shouldn't we prevent the Democrats from picking our 351 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: candid And it's in much the same way that we've 352 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: allowed that to happen in the state legislature. Michael Quinn 353 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: Solomon is our guest. Texas scorecard dot Com lots to 354 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: talk about with this legislative session, and we will continue 355 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: that conversation coming up. I encourage you to go to 356 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: texascorecard dot com and subscribe. You'll love You'll love the stuff. 357 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: You'll cover a lot of people samp, what's up baby? 358 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: Right now? 359 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 4: You won in to the Michael Berry So keep it 360 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 4: lock right here. More truth on the way, more honest 361 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 4: and p is coming at you right here only on 362 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: the Michael Berry Show. 363 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: Texas Scorecard dot Com headlines today Texas wins lawsuit against 364 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: Biden rule requiring foster care adhere to radical gender ideology. 365 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: Reform advocate says Texas new laws are improving Child Protective Services. 366 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Brandon Waltons, who will be our guest? I think tomorrow 367 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: with a story. Texas GOP legislature must finish work on 368 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: key conservative reform homes report card? How did Texas lawmakers 369 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: do supporting medical liberty? Texas lawmakers respond to parents demanding 370 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: protections for children. Video children attend Dallas drag show. Texas 371 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: Education Agency calls new star results for grades three through eight, 372 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: encouraging left wing groups fight against termination of in state 373 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: tuition for illegal aliens. Former Houston water official received July 374 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: parole review despite ten year sentence alleged non citizen voters 375 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: under investigation by the Texas Attorney General. Key election security 376 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: efforts met resistance in the Texas House. Michael Quinsullivan, let's 377 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: talk about that. As the publisher of Texas Scorecard, Real 378 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: news for real Texans. You call it those key security 379 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: efforts meeting resistance. That is a great frustration of mine. 380 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: My wife was Secretary of State a little over ten 381 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: years ago, and I really dove into election integrity at 382 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: the time. That was the year twenty fourteen of the 383 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: Election Integrity Bill that gave the voter ID bill, and 384 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: it was her mission to travel to two hundred and 385 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: fifty four counties and explain, everybody can vote. Nobody is 386 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: being disenfranchised. It's very easy. There are seven forms of identification, 387 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: six of them government issued, the seventh. If you don't 388 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: have one, your local DPS will give you one. And 389 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: that actually increased voter turnout because people want to vote 390 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: when they believe our elections matter. What went wrong with 391 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: the election integrity efforts in this session? 392 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what went wrong were a was the Texas 393 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: House not being interested in passing some of the somethings. 394 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: Get really nitty gritty, Right, Your wife and nine other 395 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: people can probably follow the ins and outs, but they 396 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: affect thirty million of us. Right. 397 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: The nitty gritty is where is where either good things or. 398 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: Bad things happened in public policy? And now some of 399 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: these things are very easy for us to get. The 400 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: most notable being whether or not the Attorney General of 401 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: Texas can prosecute election fraud. The Texas Court of Criminal 402 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: Appeals took that right away from the Attorney General several 403 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: years ago, to the surprise of former Attorneys General Greg 404 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 2: Abbott and John Cornyan, who had prosecuted such crimes when 405 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: they were ages. But they took that away, and so 406 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: now you're left with local district attorneys prosecuting local election 407 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: fraud allegations and claims, which there sometimes creates a conflict 408 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: of interest there. And so the Texas House refused to 409 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: go along with the Texas Senate in restoring that ability 410 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: of bringing that kind of accountability, the outside accountability needed 411 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 2: to clean up elections. Other things dealt with kind of 412 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 2: the procedures that would be used for auditing elections against 413 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 2: many things get you know, kind of kind of nerdy. 414 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: But yet these are again, this is the nuts and 415 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: bolts of governance. I think many of us you mentioned 416 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: at the outset, and we get so fixated on you know, 417 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: what did Nancy Pelosi say about some country will never visit, 418 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: and yet we ignore the very practical governance of our 419 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: state and our cities and our counties. Our funding fathers 420 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: did not intend it that way. Our funding fathers intended 421 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: for the real power of government to be closest to 422 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 2: the people where the most practical damage or harm can 423 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: be done to an individual, to be with local, and 424 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: they intended us to be focused on that, to be 425 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: involved in our government day in and day out, and Sadly, 426 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: for the last few decades, we've all been really busy 427 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: entertaining ourselves into a stupor rather than being engaged as citizens. 428 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: And that's what we try to do, is help books 429 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: be more engaged. 430 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: As Michael Quinnsullivan of Texas scorecard dot Com is our guest. 431 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: The China land ban Senate Bill seventeen, I believe it 432 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: was did pass. What does that do? Yes? 433 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: Oh, this is perhaps the single most important win of 434 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: the legislative session. It now prohibits individuals from hostile foreign countries, 435 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: those agents, those companies, those individuals who are not you know, 436 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: in the process of becoming Americans, not on the process 437 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: coming sentence from owning owning property and resources in the 438 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: United States. That includes China, that includes North Korea and 439 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: Iran and Russia right now, all based on lists from 440 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: the National National Security Agency and others. This is important 441 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: the legislation for securing Texas. We've seen this trend. We 442 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: reported on it in a documentary a couple of years ago. 443 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: The trend of China buying land around military bases here 444 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: in Texas around the country, buying lan end up on 445 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: near very important critical infrastructure like electrical power plants and 446 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: other things. So making sure that doesn't happen. Giving the 447 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: Attorney General the power to go and investigate, prosecute, and 448 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: even when necessary, remove that land from individuals. Texas will 449 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: now win. This goes into effect on September first. Texas 450 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: will now have the strongest law in the country. That's significant. 451 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: That was legislation that Bade Feeling would not allow to 452 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: be heard and debated in the Texas House just two 453 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: years ago. Clearly, both Speaker Burroughs and the Republican and 454 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: even some Democrats recognized that this is the people really 455 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: concerned about the kind of access we're giving our literal 456 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: avowed enemies into our nation. This is this is a 457 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: this a big win for national security and something Texas 458 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: is leading on you. 459 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: It's it's you follow what Israel has done inside Iran 460 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: and the level of penetration and infiltration is unprecedented. I 461 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: don't recall anything in world history on this level where 462 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: they infiltrated the highest ranks of the Irani government. I 463 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: think some of the generals had to be in on 464 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: it and on the take, and I think that's some 465 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: of the folks they killed to prevent them from telling 466 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: how it all came about. But it's incredible how Israel 467 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: was able on foot to execute drone strikes on Irani soil, 468 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: how they were able to set up weapons weaponry to 469 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: destroy FOURD hour parts of ford Hou. And you go, well, 470 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: when you see how that can happen, and you look 471 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: at our own national defense, why would we allow the 472 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: Chinese government to own land next to our military installations? 473 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: If that doesn't tell you how dangerous a game this is, 474 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what does Michael quin Salvin, can you 475 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: hang with us for a few more minutes? Oh, I'd 476 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: be honor him to Okay, Michael Quinn Sullivan of Texas 477 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: scorecard dot Com from No.