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Speaker 2: contributor Extraordinaire Jordan Klepper. We are back making episodes for
Speaker 2: The Daily Show. We couldn't be happier about it, and personally,
Speaker 2: I'm still glad to be fingering the pulse. The Daily
Speaker 2: Show returned back this week with guest host Michael Costa
Speaker 2: and I got to hit up a Trump rally in
Speaker 2: Lake Winnipesake, New Hampshire. I'm joined by supervising producer Ian Berger. Now.
Speaker 2: Ian is always out in the field with me riskiness life,
Speaker 2: googling restaurants and bars to check out after the rallies.
Speaker 2: And we want to give you a little Ears Edition extra,
Speaker 2: an Ears addition, if you will. We're still getting used
Speaker 2: to it. This show's been off there for a while.
Speaker 2: The wordplay, it's going to come back.
Speaker 3: To us in next year. We'll have it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give us a little bit we needed. We needed
Speaker 2: seven months to really hone those skills. We're gonna unpack
Speaker 2: this piece that we got to do this week and
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the process we go through
Speaker 2: out there in the field. Does that sound like a plan, Ian.
Speaker 4: It sounds like a great plan, a wonderful plan. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think we've been waiting to do this for a
Speaker 4: long time, so now we're able to do it. We
Speaker 4: no matter what we're asked to do, we're gonna be
Speaker 4: really grateful and dive right.
Speaker 2: In exactly, We're gonna jump in for people who don't know.
Speaker 2: So Ian and I have worked together. I mean I
Speaker 2: started the show twenty fourteen, so since twenty fourteen, at
Speaker 2: the Daily Show, at the Opposition Klepper, the Daily Show,
Speaker 2: and the last few years primarily, if you see me
Speaker 2: out a Trump rally, there's a decent chance Ian is
Speaker 2: just slightly off camera, you know, frustratingly biting the paper
Speaker 2: or talking down somebody.
Speaker 4: We just talked, stressing out and judging people.
Speaker 3: That's that's my job most of the.
Speaker 2: Day, external judge there. And I would say, what's sort
Speaker 2: of funny about this strike. In the last five months,
Speaker 2: a lot of news has happened, and you and I
Speaker 2: tend to text back and forth. Yeah, yeah, I've sent
Speaker 2: you text messages. There's wild things with the ex president,
Speaker 2: international stories. It tends to be a little bit of
Speaker 2: a news hotbed right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've texted throughout the strike obviously, because there's a
Speaker 4: lot of free time when there's a strike.
Speaker 3: And yes, as you said.
Speaker 2: This to be clear, to be clear, talk to text.
Speaker 2: There was no writing, were.
Speaker 4: Right, We did not write it. It's absolutely not. I
Speaker 4: don't even use punctuation when I text, so it can't
Speaker 4: count as writing. So that's my workaround. Yes, we texted
Speaker 4: like the whole time because we follow the news and
Speaker 4: we're eager to talk about these things. So it's almost
Speaker 4: as if we instinctively just texted each other bits while
Speaker 4: the news was happening, Like, imagine if we did this
Speaker 4: right now, and that's cool, good to kind of keep
Speaker 4: those muscles in shape. It's also a little sad, I
Speaker 4: think to be like, yeah, imagine if we were on
Speaker 4: the field in Harrisburg, PA and talking to Trump voters.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be delightful right now? But that's just who
Speaker 3: we are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah. Indictment after indictment, it's like, oh, we have
Speaker 2: a job where we can comment on this, go to
Speaker 2: some of these places and it feels as if the
Speaker 2: conversation is bonkers right now. It would be a fun
Speaker 2: place to find comedy insanity. We finally got to do that, though,
Speaker 2: this week.
Speaker 3: Wow, thank god, And it was wonderful. It was great.
Speaker 2: What were your expectations going to a rally, a Trump
Speaker 2: rally in New Hampshire.
Speaker 4: Well, I think I'm gonna say this because I think
Speaker 4: we're in the same page a lot, and we travel together,
Speaker 4: so we often arrive into a town together. We were
Speaker 4: not sure what this was gonna be because obviously we've
Speaker 4: not been on the road in a long time. But
Speaker 4: also Wolfborough, New Hampshire, is a very small, beautiful town
Speaker 4: on those shores of Lake Winnipesaki, and it doesn't have
Speaker 4: much of a Trump vibe and there's not a lot
Speaker 4: of people around. So I'll speak for both of us.
Speaker 4: I think we were afraid there would not be many
Speaker 4: people there, and that we've had those thoughts before and
Speaker 4: every time we say, oh man, this might be the
Speaker 4: rally where there's not a lot of people, This could
Speaker 4: be the one, We're wrong, right, Jordan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's remarkable, I think because the Trump and did
Speaker 2: an event in Iowa and this was sort of an
Speaker 2: opportunity for us to do sort of a catchup. We're like,
Speaker 2: we want to go out there, and literally we've been
Speaker 2: off the road for five months. What are people talking
Speaker 2: about there's a couple of things that happened this week
Speaker 2: we want to get to. But also do they care
Speaker 2: about these indictments, the news of the last five months.
Speaker 2: And so there was an Iowa event and we're pretty
Speaker 2: certain because we've been to Iowa a lot. It was
Speaker 2: this time of year, a lot of people come out,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of energy there, and yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: Every time we go to these towns where it seems
Speaker 2: like this is a quiet town, nobody's going to show up,
Speaker 2: we have this conversation where we're like, I know we've
Speaker 2: said it before, but who's coming to Wolfboro? It feels empty,
Speaker 2: it feels quaint, it feels somewhat progressive. And I tell you,
Speaker 2: we wake up that next morning and it's packed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who made the trip.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Actually, we wake up the next morning, we're like, we'll
Speaker 4: take our time, get some coffee and then get to
Speaker 4: the venue. And one of our cameramen is there already
Speaker 4: and he's like, you have to get here now. There
Speaker 4: are hundreds of people online already. So that's and we
Speaker 4: haven't learned that lesson for some reason, but that's usually
Speaker 4: what happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for those who don't know, people often ask like,
Speaker 2: what our strategy is when we approach a rally like this,
Speaker 2: How do you think of it? From a producer's standpoint?
Speaker 2: Approaching this New Hampshire rally, what was your strategy going in?
Speaker 4: Well, I think, like you said, this is the first
Speaker 4: one back, So it's okay to have a more general
Speaker 4: conversation because the narrative of our show, in the narrative
Speaker 4: of your pieces going into this rally, is that this
Speaker 4: is our first show back, catch us up on everything
Speaker 4: that's been going on, but we can make jokes about
Speaker 4: what's been going on in our life. So it's a
Speaker 4: little bit kind of like we're casting a pretty wide net,
Speaker 4: I think initially, which is in some ways easier, you know,
Speaker 4: to be like what do you want to talk about?
Speaker 4: Which is earnestly how we felt when we arrived, like
Speaker 4: you and I both didn't know what they wanted to
Speaker 4: talk about. Now, if we were, you know, had been
Speaker 4: doing this for months and months and months and had
Speaker 4: been on the road and a story break had just
Speaker 4: broken and we went to a rally, we I think
Speaker 4: we would know exactly what they were going to talk about.
Speaker 4: And what we wanted to address. But I think going
Speaker 4: in you would agree this was pretty like this was
Speaker 4: kind of a general take at the start of our conversation,
Speaker 4: and I think for you and myself included like we
Speaker 4: hadn't been to a rally in this part of America
Speaker 4: in a long time. It is like, how are you
Speaker 4: people doing? What? What do you what do you you know?
Speaker 4: What are your vibes?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And what do you think the vibes were? Jordan?
Speaker 2: They were I think we laughed they were their father
Speaker 2: along than you ever think they are in terms of
Speaker 2: like drinking the kool aid and buying in on the
Speaker 2: things you hear. And now again, this is a Trump rally,
Speaker 2: so people are our big time. But Trump has been
Speaker 2: so successful at moving those goalposts and so what was
Speaker 2: surprising to me is not that people believe that the
Speaker 2: election was stolen and Trump is perhaps even still the president.
Speaker 2: We had people who wouldn't concede that Joe Biden had
Speaker 2: won New Hampshire for our last election, which was which
Speaker 2: was sort of a starting point for a couple questions.
Speaker 2: We had a base baseline question, no twist or irony
Speaker 2: within it. It was Biden won New Hampshire. What has
Speaker 2: Trump done in the time since then to win over
Speaker 2: those New Hampshire votes? And it was like pull and
Speaker 2: teeth to get people to agree with the premise that
Speaker 2: New Hampshire went to Biden. Yeah, as far as I knew,
Speaker 2: it was never a conspiracy. People even entertained.
Speaker 4: It's a weird conspiracy to get in on because it's like,
Speaker 4: to me, it's like when people just would describe heist
Speaker 4: movies that were like, they spend twenty million dollars to
Speaker 4: heist eighteen million dollars. It's like, why would people go
Speaker 4: so far to steal New hamp Sure's few electoral votes.
Speaker 4: It seems like an odd thing to me, And so
Speaker 4: it did derail stuff for a little while, and we
Speaker 4: weren't ready for that. But it's kind of like it's
Speaker 4: always funny and refreshing to be like, oh, that's right now.
Speaker 4: You're taking this thing that other people have kind of
Speaker 4: embraced and maybe enjoyed spreading around and putting it on
Speaker 4: your own personal story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's I mean, he's Trump has taught people
Speaker 2: of worldview, which is you don't need to concede anything uncomfortable,
Speaker 2: and even the mild uncomfortable idea that the state you
Speaker 2: were currently in didn't go the way you hoped it would.
Speaker 2: You don't have to concede that either. And we go
Speaker 2: to these rallies sometimes and I think, I laugh because
Speaker 2: sometimes it's not until in the edit where some of
Speaker 2: the things that are said really register that one we
Speaker 2: knew in the in the field was like, wow, we
Speaker 2: weren't really prepared for New Hampshire conspiracy theories. Secondarily, we
Speaker 2: got a lot of people who big up January sixth,
Speaker 2: who were not only big up in January sixth, who
Speaker 2: were there on January sixth. I think that is something
Speaker 2: that has been normalized beyond being a third rail of
Speaker 2: we don't want to talk about it. That's a complicated time,
Speaker 2: perhaps looks poorly on us, has now been woven into
Speaker 2: the narrative of this was a great day. This was
Speaker 2: a day that only proved what we thought, which is
Speaker 2: other people are troublemakers, and this day, if I was there,
Speaker 2: only proves my maga bona fides right.
Speaker 4: When we talk about that day, and I would hope
Speaker 4: most Americans would do the same when we talk about it.
Speaker 4: We were there, we witnessed history and The conversation we
Speaker 4: will forever have about that is like, this was really shameful.
Speaker 4: This is a really low point in American history. But
Speaker 4: their view of it is the opposite. They're boasting about
Speaker 4: being there, and they're proud of it, and the expectation
Speaker 4: I think from there sharing those stories amongst their friends
Speaker 4: is like you were there, so lucky, high five, you know,
Speaker 4: where most of America would say, this is really you know,
Speaker 4: this is a really dark time in America?
Speaker 2: Or what was your US rally.
Speaker 4: January sixth, twenty twenty DC.
Speaker 2: If you're going to go to one, go to one?
Speaker 2: Do you make it inside?
Speaker 3: I can't say that for a little reasons.
Speaker 2: You may or may not been involved in it. He's
Speaker 2: in this activity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, can't get into that one.
Speaker 2: Sure. Sure, we'll have fun, try not to overthrow any
Speaker 2: Daly elected officials.
Speaker 1: No, no, we'll be good today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I trusted.
Speaker 4: One thing that we noticed that was funny was they
Speaker 4: were proud they were there. They obviously know they can't
Speaker 4: say they went in the Capitol. Whether they did or not,
Speaker 4: we don't know, but that one couple did. We we
Speaker 4: had to cut it out. The couple who thought isis
Speaker 4: planned it.
Speaker 3: I think January sixth is probably my favorite one.
Speaker 2: You were there, Oh yeah, that's your number one? What
Speaker 2: what made it in your favorite one? What stood out
Speaker 2: from January sixth.
Speaker 1: Well, aside from all the violence that was planned by
Speaker 1: the FBI and such, do.
Speaker 2: You think were they proud boys and oathkeepers?
Speaker 1: No, they were anteeth of Black Lives Matter, ISIS and
Speaker 1: MS thirteen.
Speaker 2: Some of January six is perfect trained by ISIS.
Speaker 1: I mean this is NEMES thirteen, Black Lives Matter, ANTIFA ices.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you say maca.
Speaker 3: Hey, anyone could put a maga hat on it.
Speaker 4: Do you remember what they said about their actions that day, Jordans. No,
Speaker 4: they said we were there, proud of it, proud of it.
Speaker 4: And then the next kind of line of questioning would
Speaker 4: be like what did you partake in the festivities? And
Speaker 4: they were like, we were there, but it was really cold.
Speaker 4: We went to a hotel room right away.
Speaker 2: That's right. That was a whole segment. And this is
Speaker 2: where people often like, oh, what are you leave it out?
Speaker 2: What are you leave it out? More often than not wildness,
Speaker 2: and I think that was what You're right. We spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time talking to them or not a
Speaker 2: lot of time. I would say the average amount of
Speaker 2: time we spend talking to people is anywhere between three
Speaker 2: to seven minutes, maybe maybe less, maybe seven would be
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they may have been like eight minutes because there
Speaker 4: was like they didn't want to back down on anything.
Speaker 4: But that would have been very long for us, right.
Speaker 2: That was a big thing. They were proud of January
Speaker 2: sixth that they were there, and then a little bit
Speaker 2: of pressure. They were like, well, you know what, it
Speaker 2: was cold that Dame and we went right home because
Speaker 2: it was so cold. And I think you made the point.
Speaker 2: It was like you drove across the country to be
Speaker 2: there support Donald Trump, and he told you to march
Speaker 2: on the Capitol, and by eleven thirty you were like,
Speaker 2: I'm going back to the hotel. It's a little nippy
Speaker 2: out there. It wasn't even that cold we were there.
Speaker 2: It was like maybe maybe it was fall jacket weather.
Speaker 4: I looked it up forty nine degrees I did, but
Speaker 4: it was forty nine degrees. And Sonny and these people
Speaker 4: drove halfway across the country, got a hotel room, went
Speaker 4: and watched Donald Trump's speech. Still had the hotel room
Speaker 4: for that night. We're like, yeah, that's enough.
Speaker 2: This is why you go to these rallies. Though You're like,
Speaker 2: you can plan as much as you want in New York,
Speaker 2: but you're like, did you think you're gonna get a
Speaker 2: January sixth climate conspiracy out of that couple? I didn't,
Speaker 2: and we stumbled on it.
Speaker 4: It would be amazing if that that like kind of
Speaker 4: alibi was you know, echoed this week go forward, like
Speaker 4: we bring it up, be like I heard it was
Speaker 4: cold that date? Is that why you didn't go to
Speaker 4: the Capitol? Like, yes, definitely, that's that's my story stick
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna pause it right there, pay the bills,
Speaker 2: and we'll get back into it, and we're back talking
Speaker 2: about Ian and I's last rally in New Hampshire. Something
Speaker 2: that stood out about this particular rally was and not
Speaker 2: a ton was in the piece, Like I think we're
Speaker 2: putting this piece together. Usually we cut this thing down
Speaker 2: and we have a fifteen to twenty minute run and
Speaker 2: we're like, how do we make this a compelling television
Speaker 2: We usually have about six minutes to fill that can
Speaker 2: air on the show or tend to air on the show,
Speaker 2: So we're really cutting certain things and tonally trying to
Speaker 2: make a television that works. But a storyline that had
Speaker 2: come up was Israel, obviously the events in the Middle
Speaker 2: East that had just happened when we walked out the door,
Speaker 2: and so that was a big question we had as well,
Speaker 2: because there's a larger question everybody's dealing with right now
Speaker 2: is like how do you talk about this issue. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of heartbreak, a lot of scary stories and
Speaker 2: images coming out of Israel, and especially when we were
Speaker 2: in New Hampshire, it was a very new story and
Speaker 2: people hadn't wrapped their heads around it, and so there
Speaker 2: was questions of like, how do we approach this? Where
Speaker 2: is their space for comedy? Is their space for comedy?
Speaker 2: And also how do people want to talk about Israel?
Speaker 2: What did you notice when we were out there?
Speaker 4: Well, as you said, it's hard, and I think you
Speaker 4: and I were like, I don't know how to do
Speaker 4: this in kind of our formula, like how do we
Speaker 4: We're not going to dive into this. This is a
Speaker 4: much bigger issue than you know, kind of simple man
Speaker 4: on the street interviews with you know, maga folk. But
Speaker 4: as you said, they were willing to bring it up.
Speaker 4: And then whenever they're so willing to bring it up,
Speaker 4: you kind of always know they're going to bring up
Speaker 4: like kind of a bullshit attack on Biden or the left,
Speaker 4: and it's something that may or may not most likely
Speaker 4: not true, and fortunately that's where they went. And it's
Speaker 4: almost like you and I do this, and I do
Speaker 4: this the night before. It's just like on right wing
Speaker 4: Twitter and you're seeing the attacks that they've just been
Speaker 4: trained to kind of like lay out, and it's like
Speaker 4: this tragedy happened in Israel, and sleepy Joe Biden's at
Speaker 4: a barbecue, just eating barbecue, and it's like, well, okay,
Speaker 4: maybe nott a barbecue, but like if you just read
Speaker 4: one news story, you know like what America has done
Speaker 4: in response, and so we're not going to get into
Speaker 4: the appropriate response. But you can't come out and be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: the President ed States doesn't even know what's going on,
Speaker 4: and you're like, well, he did send an aircraft carrier
Speaker 4: group there. That's undeniable, Like there couldn't be a bigger
Speaker 4: symbol in the world than what that was. So they
Speaker 4: they're trained to lay into that line of attack very quickly,
Speaker 4: and unfortunately, you were prepared and we're still getting comedy out.
Speaker 2: So you don't trust the generals?
Speaker 4: No, I don't eat.
Speaker 2: What are you must excited to see? It's time. I
Speaker 2: just want to see him speak, see what he has
Speaker 2: to say about Israel. I know Joe Biden was doing
Speaker 2: a barbecue with his people. We set a fleet of
Speaker 2: naval ships to Israel. Yes you're against that. I am
Speaker 2: for that. Oh that's good. Yeah, you can Biden credit
Speaker 2: for that. That's more the generals making the calls. There
Speaker 2: can we trust in those generals?
Speaker 3: I don't even know who's in anymore?
Speaker 2: So. I mean, I think that was such an interesting
Speaker 2: moment for us in that I do think that man
Speaker 2: in particular brought up something that is it's always compelling.
Speaker 2: I think Trump's relationship with veterans is a giant question
Speaker 2: mark for us, And that was the thing we also
Speaker 2: talked about. We talked to a few people about the story.
Speaker 2: It's amazing the stories that happened that week that we're
Speaker 2: not talking about right now, which was nuclear submarine secrets
Speaker 2: was we had a whole section about that, which was
Speaker 2: a big news story. Is a giant news story that's
Speaker 2: not anywhere near the news cycle right now.
Speaker 3: And make our pieces. We're like, this is so hysterically crazy.
Speaker 3: This is it. No matter what happens, we have this.
Speaker 3: It didn't even make it.
Speaker 2: This is where news is nowadays. We are a comedy show.
Speaker 2: The ex president may be shared nuclear secrets with an
Speaker 2: Australian billionaire and we were like, now we got seven
Speaker 2: other things we have to hit.
Speaker 4: We have isis planning January sixth with MS thirteen, Antifa and.
Speaker 2: And we and forty nine degrees is somehow too cold
Speaker 2: to stay outside past noon. So there's a lot for
Speaker 2: us to rafts.
Speaker 3: People are from New Hampshire. I just want to dig
Speaker 3: into them more.
Speaker 4: They're from New Hampshire and they said forty nine degrees
Speaker 4: in Martin DC was too cold for them.
Speaker 3: What do they do for six months?
Speaker 2: You're born with a Patagonia layer if you live in
Speaker 2: New Hampshire. That's just that these there's lies here, There's
Speaker 2: something going on. It's fishy again, strange times we live in.
Speaker 2: But I would say that the veteran thing was wild
Speaker 2: because that person we're talking to a veteran by an
Speaker 2: average person's understanding of the news. The way in which
Speaker 2: Donald Trump had talked about our armed forces within the
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks was abysmal. It was at least
Speaker 2: it was it was at least uncouth, if not borderline offensive.
Speaker 2: He talked about executing Millie he had it had been revealed,
Speaker 2: which had already been revealed, but had just been doubled
Speaker 2: down on the way. He talked about injured veterans and
Speaker 2: public ceremonies, and yet we talked to a veteran who
Speaker 2: pivots to defending Trump over his generals, and that conversation
Speaker 2: is not all on air went deeper into like what
Speaker 2: is your chain of command as somebody who was in
Speaker 2: the armed services? Who do you trust? And he very
Speaker 2: specifically pointed to generals as people he distrusted. And then,
Speaker 2: of course, in the beautiful packaging that these pieces tend
Speaker 2: to be in is like they will say something so
Speaker 2: definitive and then find a way in which to contradict it,
Speaker 2: just immediately in a way that again I had no
Speaker 2: idea there was going to be two facing on generals
Speaker 2: out there in the field, but yeah, well, other.
Speaker 3: Was not to be predicted.
Speaker 4: You're right, we've experienced people saying like, oh, I love
Speaker 4: him because he supports the military, but what about him
Speaker 4: making fun of John McCain. This was another level. And
Speaker 4: as you had said, there's been so much recent news,
Speaker 4: but it just doesn't deter them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean we talked to multiple people who we
Speaker 2: would confront them with information that was new to them,
Speaker 2: like this Australian billionaire getting nuclear secrets and then passing
Speaker 2: that off to dozens of other folks. We would confront
Speaker 2: them with that information, they would be skeptical of it,
Speaker 2: and then they would indulge the idea that it were true.
Speaker 2: And then when asked, if this were true, would you
Speaker 2: be disappointed? We talked to one person. He was like,
Speaker 2: of course, it would make me sad and what have you.
Speaker 2: Which from an interviewing standpoint is that it's nice to
Speaker 2: be able to agree on a set of facts and
Speaker 2: a set of morality of like, we can at least agree,
Speaker 2: maybe we let's say we are not going to fight
Speaker 2: about whether or not you think it's true. Let's say
Speaker 2: this is a piece of information, if this information were true,
Speaker 2: would this thing shake you from a moral standpoint and
Speaker 2: or from a political or from a national safety standpoint.
Speaker 2: And we had that person who was very clearly like, yes,
Speaker 2: that would make me sad, I wouldn't want to.
Speaker 4: Hear it was the Australian submarine secrets. He was right,
Speaker 4: said so that guy was reacting to the allegation that
Speaker 4: Trump could share nuclear secrets which could put our you know,
Speaker 4: arm force, which is in danger. And he was earnestly disappointed.
Speaker 4: And I'm not happy to hear that, which you're right.
Speaker 2: All to hear that which was it was again we
Speaker 2: rarely get that. But when we get to that point,
Speaker 2: and yet again, then a follow up, that is, even
Speaker 2: if that were found true, is there any space for
Speaker 2: doubt for you to not vote and support Donald Trump?
Speaker 2: And he said, he said no, And I think that's
Speaker 2: something we see all the time, like even when confronted
Speaker 2: with information, if they were to accept it, which yet again,
Speaker 2: this person was not his news. Bubble wasn't allowing that
Speaker 2: news to come in his bias. Bubble wasn't allowing there
Speaker 2: to be room for him to believe it. And even
Speaker 2: if he were to break through those two barriers, there
Speaker 2: was still no space for him to have doubt about
Speaker 2: his choice.
Speaker 4: Right, his tribalism Trump Trump, his tribalism, Trump's everything like
Speaker 4: he's it's like, you're right, all these things had he
Speaker 4: kind of worked its way through his his brain and
Speaker 4: his tribalism is like just put to stop to it,
Speaker 4: which is where we are in so many things. I
Speaker 4: will say, thinking about this rally and in the context
Speaker 4: of like all the rallies we've gone to in the past,
Speaker 4: the crowd's pretty friendly. And you and I noticed this
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. When they're pretty confident with Trump's like chances,
Speaker 4: people tend to be like engaging and friendly. But as
Speaker 4: that confidence kind of like gets chipped away at and
Speaker 4: he seems to be in more trouble, they get angrier
Speaker 4: and angrier. Like right before the election in twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: people were down and just angry and it was like,
Speaker 4: don't talk to me kind of vibes. And then after
Speaker 4: he lost, they were like, don't talk to me, are
Speaker 4: going to hurt you kind of vibes. But when we
Speaker 4: started the first rally we did, when we came back
Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen pre pandemic, you and I noticed everybody
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I'll talk, let's talk. You want to
Speaker 4: try to make fun of Trump. We're on top and
Speaker 4: so he's obviously not on top now, but maybe in
Speaker 4: their brains he is in some ways, so they were
Speaker 4: kind of engaging. It was like, oh, this is this
Speaker 4: is an easy crowd to talk to. Now I'm interested.
Speaker 4: It's like how that changes?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you think that is a reflection of their
Speaker 2: perspective being more optimistic than perhaps left wing media thinks
Speaker 2: they should be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think take pulling out aside, and I
Speaker 4: mean you're straight up ignoring you know a lot of
Speaker 4: things that the justice system and ignoring ninety one criminal
Speaker 4: accounts those take those away. I think the news they're
Speaker 4: seeing is like, look at Biden screw up, Like at
Speaker 4: Biden screw up, Like how old he is? So then
Speaker 4: you just feel invincible and you're willing to talk to
Speaker 4: liberal media that you normally hate. And I think that
Speaker 4: kind of reformed some of our day.
Speaker 2: And I think people often ask like why do people
Speaker 2: talk to you? Or is it hard? And I think
Speaker 2: this was We also travel Abby is a lovely producer,
Speaker 2: travels with us and helps us talk to people and
Speaker 2: see if people want to come talk to us. And
Speaker 2: as we were talking afterwards, the experience of getting people
Speaker 2: to touch was really not that difficult here. Right people
Speaker 2: were open, wanted to talk, wanted to talk about their ideas,
Speaker 2: and I do think that there's reflective of people feeling
Speaker 2: pretty optimistic or confident.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think if if as any of these trials progress,
Speaker 4: if in any one of them things start looking really
Speaker 4: really bad and more information comes to light, I wonder
Speaker 4: if there will be this reaction to kind of like
Speaker 4: more guarded kind of engagement with us and more anger.
Speaker 3: Like I could see that.
Speaker 2: Was there anything in this in the edit here that
Speaker 2: you wish had made it to the final piece that
Speaker 2: you look back on and like, oh, I wish we
Speaker 2: had more space for that.
Speaker 4: Well, one thing we cut out. We talked about the submarine,
Speaker 4: which is crazy that we cut out. We had a
Speaker 4: run where we were bringing up Trump allegedly overpricing mar Lago,
Speaker 4: overvaluating mar A Lago, and we asked people what they
Speaker 4: thought it was worth. And that was a funny run
Speaker 4: because people have no idea how much real estate costs
Speaker 4: in another part of the country, much less Florida. Florida
Speaker 4: to people's like this kind of magical place where things
Speaker 4: could cost eight billion dollars. So that was a funny run.
Speaker 2: How much do you think mar A Lago is worth?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I tell you it's gotta be worth
Speaker 3: like a billion. If I had to guess.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a guess, I mean a.
Speaker 3: Couple of million.
Speaker 4: And what they're saying is ridiculous as far as I'm concerned, I've.
Speaker 3: Heard three hundred releases around there that are worth You
Speaker 3: can't put a price on state secrets. One hundred million,
Speaker 3: I don't know, very expensive.
Speaker 2: I think Sadni Arabia would definitely pay more than one
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars for all the information that's inside market.
Speaker 2: That's a yeah, that's an underestimated uh value. They also
Speaker 2: echo the way in which Trump talks about it, which
Speaker 2: you know, they don't need to be experts on how
Speaker 2: much real estate is in Florida. But when you ask somebody,
Speaker 2: which we thought would be a funny ask, and I
Speaker 2: think it was of like how much do you think
Speaker 2: marl Lago is worth? So people like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: A billion? A billion, I mean, that thing's gotta be
Speaker 2: worth that's like the best, that's like the best place
Speaker 2: on earth. Like, yeah, right, this is how you talk
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 4: They're like, it's Florida, You're like, right, it's a big
Speaker 4: state where a lot of people could retire.
Speaker 3: It's Florida.
Speaker 4: Do you have any idea how much things cost there?
Speaker 4: The cars didn't even touch the road, So yeah, we
Speaker 4: cut that for time, and then we brought it up earlier.
Speaker 4: You made a great joke in the moment to the
Speaker 4: couple who said it was cold. It was something like, oh,
Speaker 4: you don't often hear that that is the reason why
Speaker 4: people avoided.
Speaker 2: The capital or yes, in the moment they talked about
Speaker 2: the cold that I was like, yes, do you think
Speaker 2: that's an underreported fact about January sixth, that many of
Speaker 2: the people who were inside the Capitol were simply inside
Speaker 2: to get out of the get away from the elements. Yes,
Speaker 2: they found it less than funny when I put it
Speaker 2: out there. I thought, in the moment, a pretty good retort.
Speaker 4: Pretty good job, and I think it kind of ended
Speaker 4: the conversation. But funny thing is like that would have
Speaker 4: been a valid alibi for I feel for some j sixers,
Speaker 4: because I think that I had to go to the bathroom,
Speaker 4: like excuse was used people who were on trials, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I broke to the Capitol might have threatened antiblility, but
Speaker 4: I had to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Honestly, that is one excuse. I can get behind the
Speaker 2: idea that I was in a public space in this country,
Speaker 2: and we don't provide restrooms for people in public spaces.
Speaker 2: So yes, I had to storm the gosh darn Capitol
Speaker 2: so that I could go tinkle and not tinkle on
Speaker 2: the monument. I'm like, all right, you know what, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll give you.
Speaker 3: A pass, okay.
Speaker 4: And this is something all of the American people need
Speaker 4: to know. That day, there were a lot of angry people,
Speaker 4: and they may have been made more angry by the
Speaker 4: fact that there were no bathrooms. And the reason there
Speaker 4: are no bathrooms because of COVID and all of the
Speaker 4: public museums where people go to the bathroom round that wall,
Speaker 4: we're closed.
Speaker 3: That is true.
Speaker 2: It is true. There is not to start another conspiracy,
Speaker 2: but there were shockingly few public restrooms available for sixty
Speaker 2: thousand people out there on the National Mall.
Speaker 4: If those museums are open, do you know how I like,
Speaker 4: do you know how deface the Air and Space Museum
Speaker 4: would have been like.
Speaker 2: Oh god, this is and you know what, Honestly, that
Speaker 2: could be the way in which we all would have
Speaker 2: come together. It's like somebody would have hopped in some
Speaker 2: old Apollo Apollo seven lunar capsule taking a dump inside,
Speaker 2: and we all would have been like too much, too much,
Speaker 2: too much, that's too much. Somebody stole Judy Garland's ruby
Speaker 2: red slippers. We need to come together. Maybe that would
Speaker 2: have been it. We need to We need to have
Speaker 2: public defacement of something we could all be angered by.
Speaker 2: We just that's what this country needs. It's that we
Speaker 2: all need to be angered by one thing so we
Speaker 2: can get on the same page. We used to have Nazis.
Speaker 2: Now we can't even agree that the Nazis are bad?
Speaker 2: Can we at least agree that Chuck Yeager's swimsuit is
Speaker 2: worth upholding that.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be a next and a long series of
Speaker 4: ours where we're going to dive into what happened with
Speaker 4: the bathrooms in the National Mall in January.
Speaker 2: Sixth I think the podcast.
Speaker 3: Why did the Deep stay close them? And what did that?
Speaker 3: You know, what were the consequences of that?
Speaker 2: Where were the shitters? Uh Ian Burger, Jordan Klepper get
Speaker 2: to the bottom of it all? There's quary minds want.
Speaker 3: To know next time, that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2: What do you hope it is? Next? For us, we
Speaker 2: were back, we're in action. Well, we want to get
Speaker 2: back to go to next.
Speaker 4: I think you and I are both curious about an
Speaker 4: RFK Junior rally. I love the rallies events and our
Speaker 4: RK Junior event. I think we're curious about that. Like
Speaker 4: Earnestly and he does. He seems to have, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of have them frequently, so I think there'll it'll
Speaker 4: be an opportunity for us. I would say that, like
Speaker 4: I've heard some reports, I think there's you know, a
Speaker 4: kind of interestingly mixed crowd across the political spectrum. So
Speaker 4: that's that's what I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think wherever we can expand. It's always fascinating
Speaker 2: to hear the folks in their perspective at MAGA events.
Speaker 2: But I want to talk to r K Junior people.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to folks at other primary events.
Speaker 2: I want to see what a Christy fan looks like.
Speaker 2: I want to meet that one Mike Pence fan, the
Speaker 2: Hailey heads like. It's always nice for us to hear
Speaker 2: people and different levels, especially on the right of Is
Speaker 2: there space in this party to move away from what
Speaker 2: we see in the MAGA world. I don't buy it,
Speaker 2: but it'd be nice to talk to people who might
Speaker 2: think there is so hopefully, hopefully get some opportunities to
Speaker 2: do that in the future.
Speaker 3: Yeah, looking forward to it. I think we're gonna have
Speaker 3: a good time.
Speaker 2: Awesome and good to be out on the road with you.
Speaker 3: Same.
Speaker 4: So glad we're back, Jordan. I will see you on
Speaker 4: the chores of Lake Winnipesake going back.
Speaker 2: Lovely, we love Honestly, we couldn't get more thumbs up
Speaker 2: for Lake Winnipesake. And you know that that should be
Speaker 2: said too in this town. I laugh because oftentimes if
Speaker 2: I'm recognized in town, people are disappointed to see me
Speaker 2: across the board. It's on the right, if you recognize me,
Speaker 2: you're like that guy, and on the left you're like,
Speaker 2: oh no, what's happening here? This is my home. And
Speaker 2: I want that wonderful woman who I saw outside the
Speaker 2: coffee shop in Wolfborough, I want her to know we
Speaker 2: thought your town was beautiful. He really was lovely. I
Speaker 2: bought a sweatshirt.
Speaker 3: Thank you, New Hampshire.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining me and Ian and thanks
Speaker 2: so much for joining us with the Daily Show. Yours edition.
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