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Speaker 1: has never rubbed another man's rubar. Welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: and I am joined in a room filled with heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Roosevelt. What is up, boys,

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Speaker 1: heyd Hey, not that there's anything wrong with rubbing rubar.

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Speaker 1: you know, in a band called Delaware, which we've brought

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427
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Speaker 1: as if maybe Chris Warren was going to be promoted

428
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: and take over some sort of spot. Then they draft

429
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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs and signed Doug Martin so Full. Finally, Ronald Ali,

430
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Speaker 1: who was featured on Last Chance You, that Netflix show

431
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Speaker 1: that Greg, I know you're quite a big fan of Uh.

432
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: He has signed or earned a try out with the

433
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Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders. He signed, excuse me, with the Raiders try

434
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: try out, so he got a chance to try out

435
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: with the team. Uh, Greg, I know you are excited

436
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: talk about this. Ronald Allie is maybe my favorite character.

437
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: I've watched season one and three and I didn't watch

438
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: it until fairly recently. It's an amazing show, and he's

439
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: an amazing character in the show and just person he's

440
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: He's like a very likable guy. He lost his parents,

441
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: his dad killed his mom and then killed himself when

442
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: when Ronald Lalley was five years old, and and the

443
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: life trials that so many of the guys on the

444
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: show have to go through to get to the point,

445
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: which is just the longest of longest of long shots. UH,

446
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: is fascinating to watch. And just his if you guys

447
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: do watch the first season. Ever, like his personality and

448
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 1: just everything about him is really unique. UH. And it's

449
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: really cool because he was uneven getting going to the

450
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Speaker 1: draft process. He was a huge long shot he was,

451
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Speaker 1: you know, he's at Nickels State. Uh so it's cool

452
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: to see. Maybe you'll make it very cool. So you

453
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: would hardly endorse that program. Why did you? It's a

454
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Speaker 1: bit extra to watch season one blank on season two

455
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,719
Speaker 1: and then watch season Well, it's a lot of it's

456
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: it's there long and I heard that this, and maybe

457
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: fans of the show could tell me I'm wrong that

458
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: they were a little aware of the cameras going into

459
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: season two because they did two seasons at one college

460
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: and then they went to a new one for the

461
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: third season, and so I just got some bad feedback

462
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: on it. And plus it's like six hours to It's

463
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: kind of like of the Wire corollary there bands of

464
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: that show and people are always very late to the wire,

465
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: the HBO show and said, oh, you know, should I

466
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: watch it? And people would say absolutely, watch season one.

467
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: It skipped season two because that's when they went to

468
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: the docks, and the Docks season was a little weird

469
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: and not necessarily all of part of the same adventure

470
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: or story, and that season three they get back on track.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the kind I think adventure. There is a connection,

472
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: but I think time has first of all you do

473
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Speaker 1: miss that. I think that was a Keith Hansas line.

474
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Speaker 1: Good adventure this episode. I think time has proven season

475
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: two underrated. Really yeah, I'm not than on this one.

476
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Speaker 1: Enough of going to the docks with that jerkof sun

477
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: every day. Let's move on to Top Bears. I invented that, uh,

478
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: the Bears are looking for a replacement for Cody Parkey, who,

479
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: of course infamously in Chicago. They'll go down in Chicago

480
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: Lore as Mr Double Doink in the playoffs cost them

481
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Speaker 1: against the Eagles, then went on The Today Show and

482
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: then got cut anyway, So on Friday, UM at three

483
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Speaker 1: day Rookie Minicamp, Matt Naggi had the you know, on

484
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Speaker 1: the surface, a good idea, but I'm not sure what

485
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: the payoff was either way. But he decided to take

486
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Speaker 1: all eight kickers at the rookie Minicamp and set them

487
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Speaker 1: up on a forty three yard field goal entire in

488
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Speaker 1: front of the entire Rookie Minicamp roster at the end

489
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Speaker 1: of practice, and Um said, do what the old kicker couldn't.

490
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Speaker 1: Maybe it was gonna rub a little salt and Parky's

491
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: wounds if they hit all eight and then that news

492
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: item goes out there, but instead the kickers missed six

493
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Speaker 1: of eight. Says that's not it enough. Now, I will

494
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: say this, we always look at the end result of

495
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: what happens, which is what matters, right, But as we're

496
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: learning two of those eight holes and snaps, it wasn't

497
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Speaker 1: all right. I'll leave it at that. So that blew

498
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: up in Naggi's face a little bit. Hill Parcels Adam

499
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: Venitarry talks about at the beginning of his career. Venytarry

500
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: will be setting up for a kick in practice and

501
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: Parcels would walk across his spot and do a whammy

502
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: before he kicked, because if you can't handle the pressure

503
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: in a practice, like when are you going to do

504
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: in the game the kick. The kick was also you know,

505
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: slightly blocked, so it was that part of the yeah,

506
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: you're right, yeah, he said. He was trying to like,

507
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Speaker 1: you know, some teams are like we're moving on from

508
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: the past. He was like, I wanted to talk about

509
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: the elephant in the room, but that's a that's us

510
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: all right, please we got some I got something else

511
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: going on here. What the Bears have acquired Eddie Pinero

512
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: from the Raiders We've got a trade breaking news. That's

513
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: a kicker trade, and it's involving the Chicago Bears. They

514
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: didn't like what they saw at the try out. They're

515
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Speaker 1: giving up an aditional seventh round pick to the Raiders.

516
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Speaker 1: He has to be on the roster five games, doesn't Eddie?

517
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: Welcome to town. Pangero won that job for the Raiders

518
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: last year. Coming out of camp. He beat out Georgio

519
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: to Vecchio and he beat out Nuge and then he

520
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: tore his groin like right, beatid. They just they still

521
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: gotta caepe eight kickers there. They there's only two other

522
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: kickers under contract, and one of them is a guy

523
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: named Chris Blewett. I just don't think Chris Blue should

524
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: be on the Bears roster. It's so offense. It just

525
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: seems like you're inviting something. You need to change that

526
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: name if you're going to be a kicker that is

527
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: in the poorly matched uh last Name Hall of Fame,

528
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: along with former Tampa Bay Rays reliever Grant Ball four

529
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: pop Walk. It would be funny like all Bears Blewett,

530
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: no man just become Chris with no last name. That

531
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: would that would become a media thing in a good way.

532
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: What if the Bears symbol like a prince symbol, if

533
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: like Matt, Naggie becomes upset like all their moves are

534
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: regarding kickers, like all the news coming out of the

535
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: airs his kicker relating that so far, that's kind of

536
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: the trend right now. Yeah, I don't know why Naggie

537
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: did that, By the way, that was weird. Let's move like.

538
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: It's like they asked him questions about other positions that

539
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: he just keeps talking about. Uh, Gerald McCoy, let's talk

540
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: about him. The Buck's defensive tackle clearly on the trade block.

541
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: Um has not gotten any voted competence from Bruce Arians.

542
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: He stayed away from offseason workouts, but the six time

543
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: Pro bowler nine years into a career, he's heard enough

544
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: of the negative comments around him. He used Sunday to

545
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: speak out during a workout via an Instagram story. That's

546
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: how things operate, guys, uh to prove his dedication to

547
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: his craft. Sinco de Mayo. Everybody out probably getting ready

548
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: to drink, probably drinking right now. No matter you want

549
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: to question me, see what I do on Sinco de Mayo.

550
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: I work, I work, and I've got my kids with me.

551
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: How many people doing that? All pro on and off

552
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: the field. You want to question me? Is he gonna

553
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: be ready? Does he love football? What? Y'all crazy? Lost?

554
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: Y'all mind I work? Don't you ever question me? That's

555
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: a great rant. I mean that was just like one

556
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: little segment of it. When they when they show it

557
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: on NFL Network because they're showing the Instagram story, you

558
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: can see it was one of like thirteen straight Instagram

559
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: story which is also like, Eric, can you do that sometimes?

560
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: Like where it's just it's a NonStop video that you're

561
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: cutting up by fifteen seconds, you know, but it's like

562
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: a three minute essentially essentially a three minute Videon't that

563
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: kind of cheating? I'm kind of annoying. I think it

564
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: could be annoying. Um, I've never done a three minute

565
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: maybe not three minute. It was like two videos. It

566
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: was like twice. It's like twelve. But I mean, I'm saying,

567
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: you open up a story, you see it, you're seeing okay,

568
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: you're seeing Instagram cuts it up nicely for you. Sure,

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00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying if you open up the McCoy one and

570
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: the rant starts, you see that there's fourteen more stories

571
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: to go in that twenty four hours. Yeah, you don't

572
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: need too many. Yeah, it's stupid like that, you're just

573
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: gonna turn it off. Moving on, Miles Garrett, the m

574
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: star defensive end for the Cleveland Browns, did a feature

575
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: with Dan Pompey for Bleacher Report and he said that

576
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: his former defensive coordinator, Greg Williams, now the defensive coordinator

577
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: of the Jets, um he had a negative effect on

578
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: him because he wouldn't let him do what he wanted

579
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: to do on the field. Here's the quote from Garrett

580
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Speaker 1: to POMPEII. I hopefully have more freedom to be the

581
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: player I want to be. Greg was more like, you

582
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Speaker 1: win with these two moves. I don't want to see

583
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Speaker 1: anything else out of you. It's kind of hard with

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Speaker 1: two moves. I feel like you can't always be so predictable. Uh.

585
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: For the record, Garrett at thirteen and a half sacks

586
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: last year and went to the Pro Bowl, So I

587
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: guess he'll have twenty three and a half sex this year,

588
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: be all pro. So you're saying that Greg Williams thought

589
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: he I knew what was better than someone who's one

590
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: of the best in the world. That doing something like

591
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: that doesn't surprise me at all. Please the ego on

592
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: this guy. I mean that I'm usually pro Greg Williams,

593
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: but it's like, maybe you should listen to the person

594
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: that's like a genius essentially at that skill set. Why

595
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: are you usually pro Greg? I mean, I'm in this room.

596
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I don't think, like he's not

597
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: the worst coach in the world. I'd normally like to

598
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: say I'd like to hear the other person's side of it,

599
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I need to hear Greg Williams.

600
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: There's the other side of it too. Is like like

601
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett, so the defensive coach said that you could

602
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: only use two moves, So there were games where you

603
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: thought you could have more sacks, but you said, no,

604
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: coach that I can only use these two moves. I'm

605
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 1: calling BS on this. I hope he's I hope this

606
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: isn't true, Like he would only do two moves because

607
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: coach said he couldn't do other moves. This just seems

608
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: unnecessary to be honest with Adam Gates. Is gonna be

609
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: using more than two moves on Greg and Williams by

610
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: November headlock Gate. But there's there is I I looked

611
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: into this. There's history between these two guys. Myles Garrett

612
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: went after the Brown's game plan after a loss to

613
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: the Steelers last year, and Greg Williams fired back via

614
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: the press. They have had heard me say that over

615
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: a hundred times here. You can't take responsibility. Just blame me.

616
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it, which is pretty passive aggressive dig

617
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: back at his star player. Just leave it in the past.

618
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I think our Greg's point with Greg Williams

619
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: has often been that you have he has a shelf life.

620
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: And that is true in Cleveland and it will be

621
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: true with the Jets. It's hard to imagine a person

622
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: with a poet soul not getting along great with Greg Williams.

623
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Speaker 1: And and um my point, you might not like this

624
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: one Mark. A lot of guys like to talk on Brown's.

625
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: I noticed that you had that. Garrett doesn't at all.

626
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: Files Garrett does not the outside of this. That's why

627
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: it surprised me because he has said nothing almost negative

628
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: at all is his career. All I'm saying is, since

629
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: we're talking about this, he publicly called out his coaches

630
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: game plan at a game last year, and then in

631
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: minicamp went out of his way to take a shot

632
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: at so he like, he'll talk to the meeting about

633
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: things he's unhappy with. And there are multiple players on

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00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: the Browns that will talk. And if this thing goes sideways,

635
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: there's some guys that talk. That's all it's It's one

636
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: thing is they were destroyed by everyone for legitimately sucking

637
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: and not getting out of their own way. They look

638
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Speaker 1: like they've set the table nicely, and if they suck

639
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: again after all this hooplah, they are going to be

640
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: denigrated and scattered by people. If they go five and eleven,

641
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: people are not gonna end with their with their fun.

642
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: And I can see it is a concern. But at

643
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: the same time, they have a quarterback, which what did

644
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: you say you saw something on Twitter? No, I noticed

645
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: that you had like a post or it was a

646
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: mail bag? Wasn't a mail bag? I think about Brown's

647
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: the Browns being the off season story. It's a very

648
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: fair point that they have been boused with all this praise.

649
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: They've done nothing on the mail bag. Someone asked me

650
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: if the mail people were getting too excited about the

651
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: brown and for the record, Mark I completely said yes,

652
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: keep that in mind. But this team is so talented

653
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: that I believe this is a you know, playoff team.

654
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: I think you know that, I sighed. I believe idea

655
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: of chill out until you have won games. Like I'm

656
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: not walking around like spinning scarfs and throwing hats and

657
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: like kicking sverre just brown scarfs, you know. Finally, in

658
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: the news, the bills that are trying to kurt tail

659
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: tailgate antics with new policy. That's the headline at NFL

660
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: dot com. I put my own headline in our rundown

661
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: for the show today. Bills attempting to price out louts

662
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: and loose women at tailgate. Now, how are they going

663
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: to do it? The team is creating a quote tailgate Village,

664
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: which will charge a twenty person vehicle three hundred dollars

665
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: vehicle five dollars, and nine hundred dollars for sixty people vehicle.

666
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: The charge breaks down to about fifteen bucks per person

667
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: from fans that want to tailgate in the designated area.

668
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: Busses or limos with passengers who do not want to

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00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: tailgate will be charged one hundred dollars departs. So basically,

670
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: they're trying to get rid of people that are showing

671
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: at the game. You know, they're just, oh, we're not

672
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: going to the game. We're not here for anything else

673
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: but to get smashed, get destroyed, get go viral. And

674
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: if they raise the prices, they will send these degenerates

675
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: somewhere else on their Sunday morning. That's the goal. Now,

676
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: whether or not it works, we'll find out. The riff

677
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: raff usually has a penchant for sticking around money. Pricing

678
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: out riff raff, I think works sometimes, and that's what

679
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: they're going for. Just make it too expensive for them.

680
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: That were they id pre identifying loose women in louts

681
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: before they enter the stadium. They're in, they lose them

682
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: that they have no they lose covering. I feel like

683
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: that's a large chunk of their stadium crowds. So they

684
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: should be somewhat careful with this, but I mean, yeah,

685
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: and don't they're not. It's also only fifteen dollars per

686
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: person to get in and I don't know though the

687
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: whole This is one of the parts of the Bills

688
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: you know experience from AFAR that I have enjoyed. They

689
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: hated the Bills organization. And there's quotes in the story

690
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: if you want to read Kevin Patrick's post, and we've

691
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: heard it, even in a joking way. When we got

692
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: the owners meetings, I brought it up to Sean McDermott

693
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: and you could tell not that it struck a chord

694
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: of them, but it was the idea of no, we don't.

695
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: They don't like this idea. We're known. One of the

696
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: things the Bills as a team are most famous for

697
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: in the last ten years is their unruly fans, not

698
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: the football product, not their success or failures. What's going

699
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: on in the parking that they don't like that we

700
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: do as fans. But if I like, if I was,

701
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's better than everyone's talking about, like the

702
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: Buddy Nicks, you know, era Shan Gaily Like, Hey, guys,

703
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: remember Doug Whaley. That was terrible, buddy. And that's what's

704
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Speaker 1: happening in the news. Hey guys. Wedding time, Chris Westling,

705
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: Oh my god, holy goodness, it is May six as

706
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: we take this, you're getting married one. It is coming

707
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: like a freight train. And guess what freight train. I

708
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: would not go near. No, especially with the gun step

709
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: in front of um. We should get extra for that. Anyway.

710
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: The Black tuxs dot Com that's where you go to

711
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: get it. Um, you know Greg, myself, Mark, all groomsmen

712
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: in West's wedding, what an honor. And we are all

713
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: using the black Tucks as is the groom right mine

714
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: arrived today. Unbelievable. We all have our black Tucks dot

715
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Speaker 1: Com tuxedos. Uh so we are ready to go. And

716
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: and that's a big moment. Mark. I know you said

717
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: you've slowed down with your Instagram output. But the big

718
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: who is going to put the first photo of the

719
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: four heroes and Tucks together on Instagram? It's something to watch.

720
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen on the Graham. I mean, it's got

721
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: to be West has his choice of how he wants

722
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: the media to run that day. He'll be busy though. Yeah,

723
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: nobody needs a green light from me to post about

724
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: my wedding on the various social media outlets. I give

725
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: that that company's and props when it showed up in

726
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: my house, the preordered Tucks, the box itself, you open

727
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: it up, the whole thing has been kept very back,

728
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: the whole the whole thing. What a package and as

729
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: convenient as can be. You wear the Tucks and then

730
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: after the wedding they give you seventy two hour grace period.

731
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: Just put it back in the box and send it

732
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: to us. Well, we'll take care of everything. It will

733
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: not return in its um pristine form. I suggest or prediction,

734
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: sweat soaked, one less start. Thank someone from the home

735
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: office is like marking down Mark's name. I was like,

736
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: let's watch out for any paraphernalio with this Sessler. I

737
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: didn't go down that road. Rent in your suit or

738
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Speaker 1: tuxedo at the black tucks dot com and enjoy twenty

739
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: dollars off with code around. That's the black tux dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Code around for twenty dollars off your purchase. The black

741
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: Tuxet's coming West? What timing? Did they know the weddings coming?

742
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: They should just be hammering these ads the next couple

743
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: of weeks. I agree. All right, now, let's get to it.

744
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Offseason storylines to watch through the spring in summer. UM

745
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: will go around the horn here, uh, and you guys

746
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: throwing out there that, uh, I guess what we're looking

747
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: for here is a storyline that you know will shape

748
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: the season in a lot of ways for that team

749
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: or the division or the conference. Um so West, I'm

750
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: gonna mix it up. I don't nice. I'm gonna start

751
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: with you well, our very own Brian Budinger recently said

752
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones, drafted by the Giants at number six overall,

753
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: is one of the best athletes ever to play the

754
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: quarterback position in New York. Ran a four sixty, tested

755
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: very well, drafted six overall. I want to see this

756
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: offseason if there's a lot right Vio Magnifico. If this

757
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: guy is clearly better than Eli Manning in practices, a

758
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: guy who's been one of the worst quarterbacks in the

759
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: NFL for the last three years. If this guy is

760
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: clearly better than Eli, he should play Week one, and

761
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: Giants fans should be demanding it. If he's not clearly

762
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: better than one of the guys who's been the worst

763
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: quarterback in the end of one of the worst quarterback

764
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL, then the Giants are in trouble because

765
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: they drafted a bust. If this guy is such a

766
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: good athlete, we should see right away whether he's better

767
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: than Eli Manning or not. I just will will Schermer

768
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: and get him and make the same mistake Hugh Jackson

769
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: did last year, ultimately maybe costing his team the playoffs

770
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: because just out of some beholden to some philosophy that

771
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: he has to see be under fire. Though for any chance,

772
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: you would think just because picking up the offense and

773
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: reading defense, and just because I mean we've seen Eli

774
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: Manning's stature in that franchise. Normally you would say, yeah,

775
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: the number six pick would have a chance, and that

776
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: would be It's an interesting topic to even bring up,

777
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: because I haven't even thought of Daniel Jones is a

778
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: potential Week one starter. Normally would but it's because the

779
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: odds are so stacked against him. He'd have to that

780
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: Is that a no lose situation for the Giants? Though,

781
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: If that kid shows up and plays out of his

782
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: mind and looks incredible and looks like an athletic freak,

783
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: even if they, out of deference to Eli, set him,

784
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: it becomes just a matter of time and then maybe

785
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: you have a real solution at the position. The worst

786
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: case scenario, of course, if he looks lost, you know,

787
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: and they get off on a bad foot with him through,

788
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: it could have not Hackenburg level failure of potential. But

789
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: you're nervous. You really do want him to show something.

790
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: It's important. It is. It's like They went out of

791
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: their way to draft someone who is already preordained as

792
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: a student of the Mannings, so it already puts him

793
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: in that if he's the understudy. We kind of get

794
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: it because he's always been Eli's buddying it, but it

795
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: maybe removes some of the ELI. We have to hold

796
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: him up on a pedestal because the GM actually went

797
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: and got a quarterback to compete with elive versus just

798
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 1: answering questions about Elive verse the void. I'm not gonna

799
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: put it on Daniel Jones, though if it sounds like

800
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: he did well all off season, looks so some good

801
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: promise in the preseason, but he has no chance to

802
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: start Week one because to me, that's that's not gonna

803
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be his fault. Why are we acting

804
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: like it's two thousand two and not two thous quarterbacks

805
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: drafted into top ten are expected to start. I guess

806
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: it's because it's the Giants. Yeah. I think it's because

807
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: it's the ELI thing with the Giants, which has been

808
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: one of the weirdest situations going on, and it is.

809
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: He said it's a no lose, but it's a continued

810
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: to lose. You know they haven't been. They've been a

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00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: losing team five out of six seasons. I think I'm

812
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: trying to think the last time this happened. I know

813
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: opinions very on Eli as a player, but within the

814
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: New York Giants, he's a franchise legend that has all

815
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: their statistical records and two Super Bowls. When's the last

816
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: time a player got drafted a quarterback got drafted with

817
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: a living icon still is the starting quarterback and immediately

818
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: took over. I don't think it really happens. I mean,

819
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is an example, but he waited three years,

820
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: Like the Dolphins never went and got that guy when

821
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Speaker 1: they had a fading Dan Marino. There what there aren't?

822
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: There aren't. It's a good question, I mean because even

823
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: Eli Eli sat behind Kurt Warner. They usually get rid

824
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: of the veterans, so he's not forced to go a

825
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: process like that. Usually there's yeah, like the veterans in decline.

826
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Speaker 1: Maybe he gets hurt or gets unseated in the middle

827
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: of the season. But Eli, of course, with the exception

828
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Speaker 1: of one game, has played every game for the Giants

829
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: for fifteen years. Yes, very interesting. West started off with

830
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: West bats leadoff for the shield are three and one

831
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: company softball team and um and again showing his ability

832
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: to get on base rallies and score runs and just

833
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Speaker 1: be a tone center like a Nick soon Zel. Oh,

834
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Speaker 1: Nick Senzel, don't even get me started on Nickson's The

835
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: whole world is everything that was dark as light again.

836
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: Nick Senzels is here to turn the season around. It's

837
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: a prospect for the Red or now a prospect. He's

838
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: the best player on the team already. UM, all right, Greg,

839
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: you're up. I'm gonna go with the Josh Gordon situation

840
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: that I over the next few months want to see

841
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: what the word is from the Ian Rappaports and the

842
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: Mike Garrett Pholos of what is Oosh Gordon's potential status

843
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: for the two thousand and nineteen season, because I think

844
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: it's been a little overlooked. I just when when he

845
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: was suspended, it was just like, Okay, that's it. It's

846
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: his careers over again. We've said that a million times.

847
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: And yet as it starts to get closer and he

848
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: signed the restricted they had the restricted free agent tender,

849
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: you get the sense that it's very much an open question.

850
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: And that's something that I think I could learn in

851
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: the in the summer leading into August that will absolutely

852
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: change this Patriots team if he was brought back, whether

853
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: they think it's going to be during the season or

854
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: you know, for Week one or whatever, they would go

855
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: from never having a big time, physical outside receiver, you know,

856
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: almost throughout the Bill Belichick Garrett to suddenly having to

857
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: having no tight ends and they've been a tight end

858
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: heavy operation to one of the worst tight end rosters

859
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But then having to kill Harry and

860
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon on opposite size. It would just be a

861
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: very different looking Patriots team. And I think, you know,

862
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: his status is something that absolutely could be a a

863
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: factor in the a f C race in general. We

864
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: brought up Brian Baldinger a couple of minutes ago. I'd

865
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: be curious to hear from a Baldy type, Um, how

866
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: much Josh Road Uh, how much Josh Gordon's skills have eroded,

867
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: if at all, in the last five years over the

868
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: stops and starts of a career that's been dotted by

869
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: substance abuse issues. Is he still a guy that you

870
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: can get excited about as a guy that works on

871
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: the outside and makes place. You know, he's had moments

872
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: he was a top fifteen receiver in terms of yards

873
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: for the stretch. Really after he kind of picked up

874
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: the playbook until he was gone, he I thought he

875
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: was a really solid he He isn't the same Josh Gordon,

876
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: but he's an above an above average starter for sure.

877
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: I don't worry about the physical side because even when

878
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: he came back for you know, very quick periods with

879
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: the Browns, he was dominant. But it's it's the idea

880
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: that he's had multiple, you know, periods where he's been

881
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: away an exodus for a year plus eight nine months.

882
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: So here's a another one of those periods. You get

883
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: him back, he signs that he signed all this stuff,

884
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: he starts to play. I don't I feel like week

885
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: to week he's a proposition. Yeah, well, I mean, what

886
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: what about his part about it? This time has changed?

887
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: Because he's already put out that letter a couple of

888
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: times saying I've comprehensively changed the person. Well, I think

889
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: you at this point, we just all want that to

890
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: be true of him. But why would the Patriots find

891
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: him to be reliable when they seem to want reliable

892
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: players more than any other trait. They can't. They can't

893
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: totally count on him, and I think that's maybe one

894
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: reason they drafted Nikio Harry, though I think they would

895
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: have anyways, But he just changes the dynamic of that

896
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: offense if he's there. He's one of those guys. To

897
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: Mark's point, like even if he played in the a

898
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: f C Championship game, you couldn't count on him for

899
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: the Super I'll go next. Um on the topic of

900
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: wide receivers with troubles off the field, how will this

901
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: Tyweek Hill situation get resolved? And is there any scenario

902
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: where the Chiefs keep Hill. I know they told him

903
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: to stay away from the team, but that's a lot

904
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: different than cutting the cord um if they do. Even

905
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: if they do and he's on the roster in ten,

906
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: is there any scenario where Tyreek Hill plays. Is he

907
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: gonna be on the exempt list, Commissioner exemple list regardless

908
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: or does he somehow you know, dodge that um and

909
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: you know the latest of course on Hill, uh is

910
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: that the criminal case against Hill and his fiancee for

911
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: alleged child abuse was reopened following the release of that audio.

912
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: On the first night of the draft, and Hill's representation

913
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: issued a quote detailed denial to the NFL on the

914
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: child abuse accusation. The tape, of course, was incredibly damning.

915
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: So there's all that to play out. But I'm just curious,

916
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, how this gets resolved. The Chiefs draft at

917
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the second round, um, it indicates

918
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: that they are at least preparing for life after Tyreek Hill.

919
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: But is that how this actually ends up at We

920
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: all have our opinions what we think about Tyree Hill

921
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: after all these things that have come out, But how

922
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: does how do the Chiefs go about what is the

923
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: future of Hill? That's still very much up in the air.

924
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: That's a good question. We saw how his agent came

925
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: out was pretty aggressive and his denials and kind of

926
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: obfuscation of what's really going on. And maybe if if

927
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: he didn't have this history, there'd be some benefit of

928
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: the doubt, but I can't imagine that he gets any

929
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. Well, it sounds like I think

930
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: just the takeaway from that is that the Tyreek Hill

931
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: side is gonna legally um fight this. And Mike Garatfolo

932
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: reported last week, you know they weren't expecting any NFL

933
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: action to take place last week. I don't know if

934
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: that to me, that just seems like it's right now,

935
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: it's indefinite. But to answer your question, Dan, I think

936
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 1: the answer almost has to be yes, there's a scenario

937
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: or else he wouldn't be on the roster, like if

938
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: they you know, if if until they cut him. I

939
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: will believe there's a scenario because they have to be

940
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: thinking there's a scenario that that's possible, or else them.

941
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: That's why I said stay away the wording. You know

942
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: the wording. You have to look at the wording. In

943
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: this statement that was released by Brett Veach on that

944
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: Thursday night, he said for the foreseeable future, he is

945
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: not going to be connected to any Chiefs activities whatsoever.

946
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: But there was no we don't condone. He's alligating you

947
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: know this behavior, we are cutting ties, they're leaving the

948
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: door open. And it also got me thinking Um Hill again,

949
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: and we can talk about's one of the best wide

950
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: receivers in all of football, um and so he's not

951
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: just an important player, he's a vital player to an

952
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: AFC contender. And I know people want to say, oh,

953
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: that's not gonna matter, but you wonder what's going on

954
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: behind closed door at Kansas City. UM. And if this

955
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: is if this goes to the point where Tyreek Hill's

956
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: career is over um at age, I'm trying to think

957
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: there's if there's ever been anything. I know, you know

958
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: Ray Rice, but Ray Rice was coming near the end

959
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: of the line. Greg Hardy is a guy that, of

960
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: course was a I'm kind of sack master when his

961
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: domestic violence issues in effect ended his career. UM, this

962
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: is kind of uncharted territory in the modern NFL. A

963
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: guy of this star level disappearing. I wonder if it

964
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 1: actually happens. It's a good question. There's a guy named

965
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: Lance Rensel who played for the Cowboys and Vikings in

966
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: the late sixties and early seventies, and UM, I would

967
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: encourage people to google his name. He had some very interesting,

968
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: UM off the field issues. It pretty much ruined his career. UM.

969
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: All right, Mark closes up, let's do it. I know

970
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: West will not like this. For the save, Mark, well,

971
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can. I have not participated

972
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: on the softball team and not played any version of

973
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: baseball or softball in two plus decades, So maybe a

974
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: bad idea I am focused on. I feel like Joe Flacco.

975
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: I get it. We all West loves him as as

976
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: soaring through the season. They drafted its tight end and

977
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: it's perfect for Joe Flacco. What a good tight end

978
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: is perfect for any quarterback. So that is not exclusive

979
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: to Joe Flacco and the Broncos who have John Elway

980
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: has largely botched the search for a quarterback almost entirely

981
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: outside of Joe Flacco. So there's reason to think Flacco

982
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: could just be positioned in and roll. But you took

983
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: Drew Luck. And here's the issue I have with just

984
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: simply sitting him all year. You if Drew Luck is

985
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: not the answer, you can also say that Joe Flacco

986
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: is not the long term answer. And you are coming

987
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: into a draft and next year where people look at

988
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: that as what this was not that there are some

989
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: We'll see how it chakes out, but justin Herbert, they

990
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: screw up for two a guy. I mean, you can

991
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: roll into next year's draft as the Broncos finally as

992
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: John Elway is having the dude, if your team is

993
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: not quite there, so do you have to find a

994
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: way to If Truelock thrives in the summer camps, in

995
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: off seat in the in the training camp, and into

996
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: the preseason. Does it put Joe Flack go again on

997
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: a short shelf life if he is not anything but pristine.

998
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: I I don't know how you don't take a look

999
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: at this guy with many more options at quarterback next year.

1000
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: Because Drew Lock also has not seen as necessarily the

1001
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: next dude. So you're not going to just say we're

1002
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 1: comfortable with him for the next half decade and then

1003
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: be the John Elway that misses and totally whiffs on

1004
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: someone much better next April. Solway likes Flacco enough that

1005
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: there was no discussion of taking a quarterback in the

1006
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: first round. He wasn't going to take a quarterback at

1007
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: that spot, but he doesn't like him enough to bypass

1008
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: the opportunity to draft Drew Lock in the second round.

1009
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: I think he did not like any of the quarterbacks

1010
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: in this draft enough. Yes, absolutely, and he had he

1011
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: I think he said, listen, if for some reason Joe

1012
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: Flacco turned this was great and turned this team into

1013
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: a into position, we're not going to be able to

1014
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback next year. Take a swing on someone

1015
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: Drew Lock was not anyone's number one dude, but there

1016
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: are some people that really like him, so there's a

1017
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: reason to take a shot. But I just think it's

1018
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: trying to figure out. It's almost like the Dolphins from

1019
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: a different angle, where you your quarterback investment could be

1020
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: happening right now with what you did with with Rosen.

1021
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: But it's very acceptable in Miami if Drew Rosen is

1022
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: not what they want, that they go out and draft

1023
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: someone else. I view Joe Flacco as someone that is

1024
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: a one year solution, even from a money angle, they

1025
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: can get out from underneath that contract if anyone else

1026
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: pops up. And if John, if John Ellie is trying

1027
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: to tell Broncos fans, we are centering this team around

1028
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: a latter stages Joe Flacco for the ongoing future. He

1029
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: has his fans, and I get it he's better than

1030
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: what they've had. That is a tough sell to me

1031
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: if I'm a Broncos fans. He has the future in

1032
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: his own hands, and that's happened twice in his career.

1033
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: Once he won the Super Bowl and once he lost

1034
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: his job to Lamar Jackson. I think we're going to

1035
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: see Drew lock this year, but that's a good you

1036
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: bring you bring up a good I'm just wondering, how

1037
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: soon do you wait till week fifteen? The summer. You're right,

1038
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: the summer does matter for these young quarterbacks a lot.

1039
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: The summer is gonna matter for Josh Rosen, It's gonna

1040
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: matter better for Drew Lock. Those are kind of the

1041
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 1: players to watch in August. There are the young guys,

1042
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: but there's not a scenario where Drew Lock beats out

1043
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco for the job week one. Do you do

1044
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: you think so? I think any scenarios I am. I

1045
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: am over trying to say that a young quarterback will

1046
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: not be put on the field. It would be surprised,

1047
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: he would be shocking. But I don't think it's it's

1048
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: it's totally out of the would be it would be

1049
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: bad team team building because of what they went and

1050
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: did with Joe Flacco. So from that angle, I'm with

1051
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: West that he's got that. But do I think that

1052
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: there would be a big problem if the if the

1053
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: Broncos just laid a gigantic fart out of the gate

1054
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: and went one and four, what is the patients with

1055
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco at that point when you have a young

1056
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: comeback to look at it. I don't think he can

1057
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: survive one and four. I think we all have an

1058
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: agreement on that, because if if the Broncos are scuffling

1059
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: along on Flacco does not look like the guy always

1060
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: thought he was getting, you probably want to see the

1061
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: young kid in the in the mean, in the short term,

1062
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: try to save the season. And it also has the

1063
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: long term effect of getting a look at this guy

1064
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: with a big draft class coming up. What would be

1065
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: really tricky for the Broncos as if Flacco doesn't work

1066
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 1: out or gets hurt. Locke is okay, he flashes maybe

1067
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: a little maybe like somewhere between Rosen and Darnald this

1068
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: past year where he has some moments but also has

1069
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: some low lights. Um, then what does lay do if

1070
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: he has a hide pick next April? But we got

1071
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: plenty of time talk, do we want to do? Like

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00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: a real quick one, real quick just throw one out

1073
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: there and then I'll throw a real quick one out there.

1074
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 1: I just want to keep an eye out on Cam

1075
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: Newton parenthetical shoulder, Carson Wentz parenthetical back, both guys rehabbing.

1076
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: Newton is very confident. Whence the last time we heard

1077
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 1: was still working his way back. Those guys are healthy

1078
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: and themselves. Those teams are division winners potentially and playoff

1079
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: teams if not, especially in Philly. They don't have Nick

1080
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: Foles there anymore. Those teams are sunk. I'll give you

1081
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: a quick one. I we don't know who's still who's

1082
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks, And we were just at lunch, and

1083
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: usually we know by now that that announcement often has

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00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: been made, and it to me, I would love to

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00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: see it be. I look back last year how much

1086
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: you can learn from Hard Knocks when it's done well.

1087
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: When we saw Hugh Jackson battling with his staff and

1088
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: you just sense something was We already knew something was

1089
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: not right, but there were prime examples to look at.

1090
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: I would love to see the Raiders. I'd love to

1091
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: see Grooden in Mayok. There was like Albert Beer put

1092
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: out a big thing from Mayok today. How he he

1093
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: gets along better with Grooden than people ever would perceive,

1094
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: according to Mayok, and they lean on each other. I

1095
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: would like to see that. I thought you're thrown a

1096
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: little Mark Davis Spice and Antonio Brown. That to me

1097
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: is why I would watch Hard Knocks versus if they

1098
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: throw it to the Tennessee Titans or some other team

1099
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna make me take along. They do wonder if

1100
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: the brown if if the Browns were another reason for

1101
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: these teams to say, I don't want to do that.

1102
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: Look what happened with the Browns like that? That was

1103
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: sort of when all these you know, coaches are very

1104
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: fearful of our knocks like that. What they're afraid of

1105
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: is what happened to you. We've got the last wave

1106
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: or maybe last violent wretches of free agency coming up

1107
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: later this with death rattle of free agency, the death

1108
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: rattle when you no longer have to pay via compensation

1109
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: picks for signing free agents. So teams are waiting for

1110
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: some of these guys who have a lot of snaps

1111
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: played over the last few years but are not seen

1112
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: as difference makers. So some guys are about to be signed,

1113
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: And specifically, what does that tell us about the Miami Dolphins,

1114
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: a team that nobody's sure if they're organically tanking or not.

1115
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: But some of the positions on their roster, say offensive line,

1116
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: they don't even have starters, they don't even have backups, Like,

1117
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: who who's gonna are they really tanking or are they

1118
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: gonna go get some of these interested in Nick Perry,

1119
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: which would be I think they would there's a decent player.

1120
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean, there were two guys in the top fifteen

1121
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: of our free agents still out there and Dominan Sue

1122
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: and Ziggy Anza. Up. I know, I was I just

1123
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: doubling none. You're Cam Newton. Point to me, that's that's

1124
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: the number one story because coming off of a shoulder surgery,

1125
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: like he he wants to played a little more cautiously

1126
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: this time instead of rushing back like he did last time,

1127
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: which did not work too well. So I don't know,

1128
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't I never believe the sunny early prognoses of

1129
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: these recoveries from shoulder surgery. And for Newton it did

1130
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: turn out the but you know it was reported after that,

1131
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: oh it was more minor than they anticipated. Well we'll see, right,

1132
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: no shoulder surgery as minor, Am I right? Very correct?

1133
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: All right? I mean I got a technis shot and

1134
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: that wasn't even minor. But yeah, like yeah, I mean

1135
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: it was, but not to you. It's like it's like,

1136
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's like a dull pain for a couple

1137
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: of days, you know. Yeah, they warned about that dull pain.

1138
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm Joe, It's I'm joking. Yeah. Recently they were like,

1139
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: oh you haven't had a doctor's boy in fifteen years.

1140
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: We recommended every ten years. So I thought you only

1141
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: need that if you stepped at the roast Dale the

1142
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: US there he said. I said, Hey, it's up to you.

1143
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: What do you think you know? Hey, give me the works,

1144
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: not got I don't know, haven't had tetanus yet. I

1145
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: smell a raccoon attack that you're hiding from us. That's

1146
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: what I was just there and did musical tapes issues.

1147
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: All right, we'll be back Wednesday. It's a three show

1148
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: week around the NFL podcast keeps rolling. Um, that's it

1149
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: from here. Let's go stand handsOn signing off for Quiet Storm,

1150
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: The Mailman, The Old Boss and Ricky Hollywood behind the

1151
00:59:30,960 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: Glass Deel Wednesday. M Hm. I feel like it actually

1152
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: would fit in well with working classes. Oh yeah, Well,

1153
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: when I was in Mailman, all we did was go

1154
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: out dancing and hanging out in mosh pits and throwing

1155
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: people around. You slam danced. Oh I did. Yeah,