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Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different

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Speaker 1: look at things. Dr Doherty and John Harris have their

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Speaker 1: Here's Drew, what's going on.

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Speaker 2: I'm Drew and that's John, and we're happy that you're

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Speaker 2: with us here in the Lab. Okay, here's what we

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Speaker 2: got on the show today. I think it's the year

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Speaker 2: that Andre Johnson gets in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna happen. So we're shooting this on

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday. It's airing on a Wednesday, and I think

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Speaker 2: tomorrow on Thursday, I think he's gonna get the call.

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Speaker 2: Something tells me we're gonna get into that. We're also

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Speaker 2: gonna talk a little bit more about some wide receivers

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Speaker 2: that you saw at the Senior Bowl last week. You

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Speaker 2: touched on it in last week's show. I want to

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Speaker 2: kind of dig a little bit deeper this week is

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Speaker 2: I've been thinking about it all week long as I

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Speaker 2: dork out and go through my mock draft my fake

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Speaker 2: mock drafts simulators. And then we're gonna wrap things up

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Speaker 2: by saying and finding out what two things the Texans

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Speaker 2: must do from now until this time next year to

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Speaker 2: make sure that they're in the super Bowl. But let's

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Speaker 2: start with Andre Lamont Johnson. I think this is his year.

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Speaker 2: He is on the ballot again. He's a finalist. He'll

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Speaker 2: he'll get the call on Thursday night if he gets in,

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Speaker 2: and he'll come out with the other guys at the

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Speaker 2: NFL Honors Show, which I think we're also gonna see C. J.

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Speaker 2: other guys win some or coaching stuff. But Andre Johnson

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Speaker 2: going in and it's a long time coming. Man, how

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Speaker 2: excited are you to see that? If it does indeed

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's such a it's such a long wait,

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Speaker 3: you know. And the thing is is there's nothing you

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Speaker 3: can do. Yeah, that's the you know, a lot of

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Speaker 3: times when things aren't kind of going your way, there's

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Speaker 3: something in whatever aspect, field of work or whatever you're in,

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Speaker 3: you know, there's something you can you can try something else,

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Speaker 3: like man, uh, you know, yet you have kids, and guy,

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Speaker 3: in the morning. Okay, Well I try this, I try that,

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Speaker 3: I try this is one of those things where you've

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Speaker 3: done everything you can. You you fought the good fight,

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Speaker 3: the career is over, and now you just you wait

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Speaker 3: and your your Hall of Fame fate essentially is in

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Speaker 3: the hands of you know, sports writers, people that have

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Speaker 3: covered this sport for a long time, and and you wait.

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Speaker 4: And that's the frustrating part.

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Speaker 3: And so as Andre waits, we wait, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I think the first time for any player, and I

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Speaker 3: mean it's a little different because you know, we're growing up.

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Speaker 4: You know, the oilers have been around, you know, there.

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Speaker 3: Have been some Hall of famers obviously back to the

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Speaker 2: Do the oilers litter the Hall of Fame. There's a

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Speaker 2: more from the seventies, right, and I think that anyways.

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Speaker 4: So there was no there was no let me say

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Speaker 3: You know, you didn't surround waiting for Warren Moon, you know,

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Speaker 3: thought it was interesting conversation that John Lopez brought up

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Speaker 4: But I was driving to Mobile.

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Speaker 3: I think I think Ed Reid went to the Hall

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Speaker 4: Was not he was.

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Speaker 3: This is spent the majority of his career here, set

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Speaker 3: Number eighty, the you know, the the greatest of all

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Speaker 3: everywhere you go you wear Texan stuff and Andre Johnson's

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Speaker 3: You know, people talk about, you know, Andre in the

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Speaker 4: You know, he was that guy.

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Speaker 3: He did, even though even though the the the ranking,

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Speaker 4: It was named after a dream he had, dream Er two.

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Speaker 2: I thought was interesting and this is no shaded al

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Speaker 2: Jeff Bagwell, yeah, I said, but he's got dream over

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Speaker 2: anyhows Uh. You know what else is cool about? You

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Speaker 2: bring up Dre. Do you think it's out? Do you

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Speaker 4: That's a hard one. I probably would put dreamhead out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think because there was I mean, obviously they're

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, also you've got the fact that Dream,

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Speaker 4: So there's also that connection in.

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Speaker 2: The first title. I don't count the AFL title. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, right right right exactly.

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Speaker 2: He brought the first many right right right right, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I had never been to that. It started, I think

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Speaker 2: when I was a huge baseball card dork. I mean,

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Speaker 2: know what, let's go out there. They've they've never been

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Speaker 2: But it was really really cool seeing so many people

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Speaker 2: it's it got. It came back this year. It came

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've told my story before I went to

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Speaker 3: I always rock text gear. I always show up in

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Speaker 4: It's a beautiful, beautiful facility and it's a great facility

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Speaker 4: for the Senior Bowl. And I'm walking in.

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Speaker 3: kind of snickering and I hear I hear Texans and

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Speaker 3: then I hear them kind of laughing, and I wanted

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Speaker 3: You know, Larry has been obviously so many Pro Bowls,

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Speaker 3: he's stopping in front of each quarterback and he's filming,

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Speaker 4: One nine from the two thousand drafts. So but it

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Speaker 2: between now and then, and obviously win more game. Don't

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Speaker 4: I got I got too.

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Speaker 3: Number One, they've got to have a top twelve running game,

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Speaker 3: okay in the league, however you want to define that.

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Speaker 3: You gotta have a top twelve running game in the league. Okay,

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Speaker 4: The wind was a little bit of an issue. It

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt anything's cold the Houstonians. But I got

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Speaker 2: I don't know the weather was meeting Devin Singletary in

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Speaker 3: You know, second thing, you've got to cut the explosive plays.

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Speaker 4: In half, at least on defense.

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Speaker 3: On defense, you gave up way too many explosives and

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Speaker 4: And obviously if you have CJ on the field, you're

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Speaker 3: But you've got to reduce the explosive plays defensively, and

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Speaker 2: All right. I like those those will work so to

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Speaker 2: So who else is going to help blow up the canyon?

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Speaker 2: What are some guys that would fit in nicely? You think?

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Speaker 3: I think walking out of there one of the one

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Speaker 3: Does everything well. I think he runs, He's gonna run

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Speaker 3: better than people expect. He's got blue sticks for hands,

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Speaker 4: I think he would fit perfectly in between.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you think about his game, his game

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Speaker 2: Perfect Like the sound of that to you, like the

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Speaker 3: Good size six ye two hundred pounds, great hands, you know.

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Speaker 4: He's probably a little bit closer to Tank.

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Speaker 3: So maybe you you look at him and think he's

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Speaker 3: at times in at twenty twenty throughout his career basically,

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Speaker 4: In fact, I was just watching a little while ago.

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Speaker 3: His routes are just incredible, change of direction, all that

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Speaker 3: kind of He's got everything you got and you play

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Speaker 3: that ability. The thing is that those pearsall Porley, Uh, McConkey, Roman, Wilson,

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Speaker 3: and I think they're fantastic options on day two. That

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Speaker 2: Thomas is in that area when I'm doing those model ups.

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Speaker 3: He's available at twenty three, and I wouldn't be opposed

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Speaker 4: He can create chunk plays, explosive plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Bran, like I said, those are all

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Speaker 4: I thought he was really really good.

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Speaker 3: There are going to be options at receiver, and I

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Speaker 4: Something really extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: And what it also does is it tells you every

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Speaker 4: In this draft.

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Speaker 3: So if you want to look at a different position

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Speaker 3: You can look at that group and go, you know what,

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Speaker 4: If we can get a good contract to a guy,

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Speaker 3: But if we don't, we're not gonna panic because we

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Speaker 2: That's intriguing. That's really intriguings. I'm excited. You and Mark

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Speaker 2: you'll you shot on Money Day. And it's the hot stove.

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Speaker 2: The offseason hot stove was so much fun around here.

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Speaker 2: Think about what we what the Texans did last year,

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Speaker 2: just fine. You know, you wait a week or two

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Speaker 2: and you see all these guys that he just plucks

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Speaker 2: right in signs and that might not be the case

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Speaker 2: this year. He might make a big splash on that

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Speaker 2: first day. But if he doesn't, just chill out, trust

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Speaker 2: in him, because I think, oh yeah, I think he's

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Speaker 2: shown he knows what the hell he's doing, and the

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Speaker 2: Texans are gonna be just fine. And I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: John always fun talking with you.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, let's do this again.

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Speaker 2: Next week when maybe we're talking about Andre Johnson being

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Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame instead of Reill. He I

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Speaker 2: think he's gonna get it.