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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and

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Speaker 1: from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations. Here we come. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: Each money Making Conversation is about entrepreneurship and entertainment. I

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Speaker 1: recognize that we all have different definitions of success. For

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Speaker 1: some it's ascizable paychecks. Mine is helping people wake up

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Speaker 1: and inspiring them to accomplish their goals and live their

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Speaker 1: some people catching on video, majority listening on via podcast.

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Speaker 1: I want you to stop tripping over small challenges and

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Speaker 1: preparator rise above the bigger ops circles that life will

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Speaker 1: present to you, and it's very important to understand it's

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Speaker 1: all about you. Focus on you will yourself to success.

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Speaker 1: That's the story of my next guest, Lacre. He is

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Speaker 1: recognized as the first artist to have an album hit

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Speaker 1: and the Gospel Charts simultaneously. His ninth album and accompanying

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Speaker 1: documentary that's going to be associated with the album, Restoration,

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Speaker 1: features artists across all genres, including my Man John Legend,

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Speaker 1: my Man, Kurt Franklin, and y k O Cyrus. His

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Speaker 1: work is fueled by building bridges, changing narratives, empowering their disenfranchised,

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Speaker 1: and restoring the dignity of those on the margins. In

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Speaker 1: this new book, which I read this morning, I am restored.

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Speaker 1: How I lost my religion but found my faith. He

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Speaker 1: shares how he found the courage to stop ignoring his

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Speaker 1: trauma and instead to begin working through it step by step.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome the money making conversations my man Lokraiz and

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Speaker 1: say about you. Look at far I brought your online up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know the beauty of you, Like I tell you,

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Speaker 1: the first time I got to see you perform whats

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Speaker 1: uh in Houston that was doing the Super Bowl weekend

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Speaker 1: that time. But at the time also you will dealing

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Speaker 1: with a lot of trauma in your life, and but

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Speaker 1: you're able to mask that and not allow it to

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Speaker 1: affect your abilities as an author, performing artists. Talk to

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Speaker 1: those different steps. And then we're gonna go through the

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Speaker 1: book that uh wonderful book, I won't wonderfully honest book

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Speaker 1: and I think a necessary read that I'm recommend to

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Speaker 1: that goes out to fans on Wednesday, which is tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: ninety thousand people. You know, I got over a million

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Speaker 1: social media follows, so you'll see me posting it there.

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Speaker 1: Because when you when people release information to the general

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Speaker 1: population because you are celebrity. We talk about it in

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Speaker 1: your book being a celebrity, and sometimes being a celebrity

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Speaker 1: people can to dissect a celebrity or an important person

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Speaker 1: you know, your book tells that story, but talk about

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Speaker 1: you know, performing even though you're dealing with a lot

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Speaker 1: of emotional drama. Yeah. You know, sometimes I think you

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Speaker 1: you wear that face that you just put on, those

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Speaker 1: and recognizing that, uh, you know, I was a slave

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Speaker 1: that that that meant all? Did you say that? Now?

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Speaker 1: With your book titled you Know I Am Restored How

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Speaker 1: I Lost my religion but found my faith, I gotta

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Speaker 1: don't I have faith. You know, I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: over when I'm reading a book which is, like I said,

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Speaker 1: video series, and so people are able to see you

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Speaker 1: know that you're trying to run a successful business, you're

431
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Speaker 1: trying to raise a family, you're trying to be a leader,

432
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Speaker 1: and you have to deal with meeting your father for

433
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Speaker 1: the first time and many people would run from that

434
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Speaker 1: reality and say I got way too much for my

435
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: plate to be dealing with that. But I knew that

436
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Speaker 1: there was a piece of me that would not be

437
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Speaker 1: whole until I had that meeting. I didn't have any expectations.

438
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't saying, now me and him are gonna be

439
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Speaker 1: best of friends and we're gonna make up for lost time.

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Speaker 1: But I knew that I had questions that I wanted

441
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Speaker 1: to ask, and maybe I wouldn't get the answers I wanted,

442
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Speaker 1: but I knew I didn't want to go to my

443
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Speaker 1: grave without asking some of those some of those questions.

444
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Speaker 1: And that's, uh, hey man, you know, I'm Roushan McDonald.

445
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Speaker 1: I've done a lot of great things in my life.

446
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: But if you put together a documentary, let's talk if

447
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: you if you don't have anybody else talking to you,

448
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: because because I I I draw talking to you, and

449
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: you have a voice that um that shapes this world,

450
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: not just the community, this world, and uh you articulate,

451
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Speaker 1: you're smart and look good and plus more important that

452
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Speaker 1: you have a story to tell that is tied to trauma,

453
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Speaker 1: It's tied to honesty, and it's tied to faith. Okay,

454
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Speaker 1: let's feel really okay. And uh and and and it's

455
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Speaker 1: important that you know I've learned when I when I

456
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Speaker 1: talk to people that have a unique point of points

457
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Speaker 1: of views, that I have to let them know what

458
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Speaker 1: I think. And it's something that you know. Your YouTube

459
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Speaker 1: channel is great. In fact, I'm I'm I'm gonna look

460
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Speaker 1: at the interview that you have when you first met

461
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Speaker 1: your day and I probably put in our newsletter to

462
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Speaker 1: let people see another side of you, honest side of you,

463
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Speaker 1: because in Hollywood, it's really interesting that you know, we're

464
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Speaker 1: we're put under and that's just the celebrities or athletes

465
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Speaker 1: were put on the microscope based on what you know,

466
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Speaker 1: but not the life that we live. When I say

467
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Speaker 1: that is that you know, it's we have made up

468
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Speaker 1: on when we hit camera, we we speak a certain way.

469
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Speaker 1: A lot of times when we hit the camera, we

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Speaker 1: perform a certain way. When we walk off that stage

471
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Speaker 1: and get out of that arena, then that's a different life.

472
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Speaker 1: And sometimes were held accountable to what they saw on

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Speaker 1: TV or what they saw in the movie or what

474
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Speaker 1: they saw on the performance. How do you deal with that?

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Speaker 1: Lokraiz mm hmm. Man, you know honestly, you've got to uh.

476
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Speaker 1: A lot of it is discernment. A lot of it

477
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Speaker 1: is is recognizing and realizing that some relationships you walk into, uh,

478
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Speaker 1: you know, relationally, and some people walk into transactionally, you know,

479
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Speaker 1: and you've got to be able to decide which is

480
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Speaker 1: which because a lot of the relationships in the entertainment

481
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Speaker 1: space are transactional that they may seem like their relational

482
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Speaker 1: people may come at you and say, hey, let's let's

483
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Speaker 1: hang out, let's be friends, but it's gonna take some

484
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Speaker 1: time for you to understand who your real friends are

485
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Speaker 1: and not to not to allow people who say, you know,

486
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Speaker 1: this is what they think about you, and and not

487
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Speaker 1: tell a lot of those voices to dictate who you

488
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Speaker 1: really are. So I look like being a professional athlete

489
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Speaker 1: is everyone's gonna say something from the sideline, But you

490
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Speaker 1: got to realize who your teammates are and who are

491
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Speaker 1: the people who want the best for you. Those are

492
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Speaker 1: the voices that you that you have to listen to.

493
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Speaker 1: And so that's that's one of the biggest things that

494
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Speaker 1: I had to learn early on, is that you know,

495
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Speaker 1: all those voices are not voices that I need to

496
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Speaker 1: listen and read the book. Look crazy, um, when you

497
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: brought up Calvinism. Okay, now you know, uh, A very

498
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Speaker 1: few people know Calvinism. You know. I am early in

499
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Speaker 1: my college career, I took a European history and I

500
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: learned about the Roman Catholicism and how and how Calvinism

501
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Speaker 1: was born out. They were just tired. It was tired,

502
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: and so so I just smiled when I got to

503
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: that part of your book. I go, wow, I've read

504
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Speaker 1: a lot of books in my life. This is probably

505
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Speaker 1: the first book I read since college that articulated Calvinism.

506
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Speaker 1: And it was important in your development. And so tell

507
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Speaker 1: everybody about that, because that's why I said, Man, you know,

508
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: when I read that, I said, I gotta have a

509
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Speaker 1: bigger part. Well, you're not gonna I'm based in Atlanta.

510
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Speaker 1: I just bought it. I just bought it for my

511
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Speaker 1: office in Atlanta. I'm headquartered here and uh, fourth quarters

512
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: gonna be amazing. And it was just so many things

513
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: in that book that needs to be You need to

514
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Speaker 1: be talking to other people with it based on it.

515
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Speaker 1: You understand that I'm saying this is a this is

516
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Speaker 1: a series to me, and that you should be hunsting

517
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: that you should be translating that's that's black, that's white,

518
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: that's that's feel with different different layers as minority community,

519
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: because like you, like you, I had success as a

520
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: stand up comedian in the white community before Death Comedy

521
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: Jam came out there. And then when I proceeded to

522
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Speaker 1: be koind of go over to death commity and looked

523
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Speaker 1: at me like I didn't belong. Hey, uh, you can't

524
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Speaker 1: make black people. Okay, don't do that. And I had

525
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: to prove myself the same thing with my business world.

526
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Speaker 1: I graduated with a math degree and I worked in

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Speaker 1: and went to work for ib AM. I to achieve

528
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Speaker 1: for one with deemed the ultimate passage into the white

529
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Speaker 1: corporate world. I was working for Big Blue. You know,

530
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Speaker 1: that's all you want, you know, So that wasn't enough

531
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Speaker 1: for me. I said, I wanted to be an entertainer.

532
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Speaker 1: I wanted to be a stand up comedian. And so

533
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: there's so many layers that talking to you and reading

534
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: this book allows me to understand that you have a

535
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: unique point of view that really this book is cool.

536
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Speaker 1: For man, it's some other stories we gotta tell, brother,

537
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: you and I gotta tell together. I like that, I

538
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Speaker 1: like that you. You you use somebody what we say,

539
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Speaker 1: has range, you know what I mean. A lot of

540
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Speaker 1: a lot of folks, you know, they can walk in

541
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Speaker 1: a lot of different worlds. That that shows that they

542
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: have some range. They've been exposed to a lot of

543
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Speaker 1: different places. So I find that interesting that that that

544
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: that you even know some of those those things, that

545
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 1: just shows your range. So I love it. I might

546
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: have to just try to pull up on your build

547
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: if I was just you know, man, you know the

548
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: fact that you wrote a fantastic book. But but I

549
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: don't want to remiss tell everybody about Calvinism before we

550
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Speaker 1: leave this show, because I tell you something I tell

551
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: that changed my life man in college. But i'd about

552
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: that man, Lutheranism and Calvinism and gold over to England.

553
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: Oh brother, come on that. Yeah. So so a lot

554
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Speaker 1: of times, you know, essentially, you you look at the

555
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: Roman Catholic Church and and you saw, like, uh, there

556
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Speaker 1: was a lot of rules that were added to Bible,

557
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, A lot of a lot

558
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: of a lot of amendments were made and it became

559
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: seen as gospel truth. And all of this stuff is

560
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: happening in Europe. Meanwhile, the Bible is an Eastern you

561
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: know faith. You know that was Christianity was in Africa

562
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: long before whatever in Europe. But but but then you

563
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: get you know, John Calvin and Martin Luther and these

564
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: individuals who you know are railing against the Catholic Church

565
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: and UH and and they kind of create what we

566
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Speaker 1: call Protestantism UH today, which is taken root in America,

567
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: which is you know, pretty much what American Christianity is.

568
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: A lot of it is built off of of that perspective,

569
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Speaker 1: which is very European in nature. And so it though,

570
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: and I say it's about everything, you know, there's always

571
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: some truth mixed in with the lives. And that's how

572
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: people get fooled, is because there's always some truth mixed

573
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Speaker 1: in with the lives. And so there's lots of great

574
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Speaker 1: UH points and things that I think people can appreciate,

575
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: but you also have to remember that there's a lot

576
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Speaker 1: of cultural nuances that really don't fit who we are

577
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: and are not really applicable to the Bible. And so

578
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: I think people have to realize that when they when

579
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Speaker 1: they approach it and just realized how much the European

580
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: culture um has been transposed over to us more so

581
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: than actual guy's words that when I read that, that

582
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: opened my eyes. Man, That's why college changed my life.

583
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: I always tell people go to college, college because high

584
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: school they deny you son information. You see what Donald

585
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: Trump trying to do right now. You know, don't live

586
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: from don't want to don't want the truth to be

587
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: read because it acknowledges that when you're trying to take

588
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: down these Confederate statutes, there's a reason not to glorify

589
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: when you realize these folks were attempting and so we

590
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: called black lives matters thugs. You know that that you

591
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: gain knowledge, information, information by being allowed to openly learned.

592
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: That's what college did for me. And when I took

593
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: that course, man, it's like wow, really And and I

594
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: want to close with this interesting story that you had

595
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: when you was in Egypt and the God wasn't meaning

596
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: from a religious perspective, was from a historical perspective, and

597
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: she was talking about the worst Pharah and then you

598
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: and then you went from a religious perspective, you go,

599
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: what you're talking about? And so what because of the

600
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: fact that we are so guided by religion that we

601
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: can allow facts to be misinterpreted and that I'm chancing

602
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: to me. You have a great book, you great by

603
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: I think you just this dude read my book. I

604
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: have to be respectful and understanding that you didn't. You

605
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: know you did this for a reason, and your career

606
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: has allowed me to believe that you're trying to change

607
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: lives and really, in reading this book allowed me to

608
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: see a personal side of you, and then a side

609
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: of you that says, Okay, I gotta do better, I

610
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: gotta do better. I wake up with that whole attitude

611
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: I gotta do better, and I gotta do better. Not

612
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: for myself because I feel that I I do this

613
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: podcast as because I'm trying to make other people do

614
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: better or hear better, or learn better or get some

615
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: facts about it. This interview I'm doing with you is

616
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: an open interview about people hearing about somebody who's telling

617
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: them go by this book because it enabled Rushan McDonald's

618
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: see some things about Lacre that enables me to understand

619
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Speaker 1: that I can do better. I can be honest about myself.

620
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: If I feel there's a dark side of me, tell

621
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: somebody it's all right, it's all good. That's your book, man,

622
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: that I appreciate you Lakreze, I really do, man. And

623
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Speaker 1: like I said, this is my second time interview, and

624
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: you and I the first time. It's a good interview.

625
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: But this is an interview from a from a sole

626
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: perspective that our journeys are are definitely gonna be uh

627
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: even bigger in the future, man, because you're special, lucre

628
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: And I think you may got the ninth album dropping,

629
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, dropped in August. You got October thirteenth. The

630
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: book comes out um on YouTube right now as a series.

631
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: But you and I, You and I got to my backyard.

632
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: I got a little lake. Man. We go fishing. That's

633
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: where I go. That's where I go to the crazy

634
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: life is bad for me. I have to go down

635
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: there and wash that water. That water at water at

636
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: water calms me, man, because and and and and and

637
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: my property. It drops down just enough. Well I can't

638
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: see any cars, No, I can't see anything. And it

639
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: just allowed me to look at that water man, and uh,

640
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: catch your fish and throw it right back and give

641
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: it back to God. Man. That's what I do. Brother, Man,

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Speaker 1: I love your brother. Thank you for taking the time. Man.

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald. My next

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Speaker 1: guest is Phenomenal. She's a reinventor, renaissance woman. Kim Cole's

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Speaker 1: is renowed TV veteran comedian, host motivational Speak Care and

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Speaker 1: It's currently back on TV making us laugh and Wednesday

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Speaker 1: Night's appearing on the sitcom in the Cut on Bounce TV,

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Speaker 1: also continues in power this is what I you know

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Speaker 1: telling you this is money making conversation. This is why

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Speaker 1: goal setting, self care and more. Phenomenal, please work with

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Speaker 1: the Money Making Conversations, Kim cos well shot, I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to be with you right now. You're kind of people.

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Speaker 1: Well good for you know, I appreciate the compliment because

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Speaker 1: when I see what you're doing with your brain. First

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Speaker 1: of all, you know, following on LinkedIn, following on social

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Speaker 1: media and on LinkedIn. You know you look beautiful. You

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Speaker 1: look beautiful. Okay, you know that? What what? What? What

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Speaker 1: you want to talk about? It's about branding and presenting

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Speaker 1: yourself in a successful look and upbeat look because of

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Speaker 1: the fact that you're a motivator and in this business

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Speaker 1: you have to look a certain way, to talk a

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Speaker 1: certain way. Let's talk about the your brand and what

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Speaker 1: you're presenting out there in the entrereneural space. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that first. Well, yeah, you know, right now, I've

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Speaker 1: been talking a lot about uh, pivot on purpose, how

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Speaker 1: know a lot of upheaval, you know, with a pandemic

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Speaker 1: that is fair and unfair happening in the world. And

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Speaker 1: more than ever, we need to pivot on purpose. And

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Speaker 1: the way you do that is, you know, look at

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Speaker 1: your gifts and talents and uh and and look for

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Speaker 1: ways to express them given the current situation, so you

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Speaker 1: look for opportunities. It's a brand new perspective and so

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Speaker 1: my brand and I'm so proud of it. You know,

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Speaker 1: back in the day, we weren't thinking, you know, back

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Speaker 1: when you know you and I were doing what we

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Speaker 1: were doing, you're building ourselves in the comedy world. We

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Speaker 1: weren't thinking, oh, this is our brand, but knowing that

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Speaker 1: every step that you take is all um uh, every

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Speaker 1: step that you take, and as you are aware of

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Speaker 1: your gifts and talents, it's all a part of your brand.

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Speaker 1: It's all a part of the building of who you are,

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Speaker 1: the message that you've come here to to give. And

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Speaker 1: this is whether you're This is not even for people

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Speaker 1: who are in show business, not even for people who

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Speaker 1: are entrepreneurs. All of us now are are requested and

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Speaker 1: required to pull on our gifts, so to to to

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Speaker 1: Rashan that just being a sitcom actress, while that is awesome,

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna is not enough. Just the stand up comedian,

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Speaker 1: while it's awesome, and there are people for whom that's

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Speaker 1: I had other aspects of my gifting that needed to

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Speaker 1: come forth. Therefore, the Kim Calls brand has the stand

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Speaker 1: up comedy, the sitcom actress, the author, and the entrepreneur

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Speaker 1: who teaches entrepreneurs how to find their gifts. And so

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Speaker 1: this is about expansions. This is also about at this

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Speaker 1: some people's perspectives, and it has. It has not slowed

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Speaker 1: because if you are well, you know, I really love

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Speaker 1: my favorite people. I tell you that, and you're like, really, yes,

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Speaker 1: telling the joke or write in the script. But what

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Speaker 1: coaching them that the downtime is not a flaw. That's

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Speaker 1: And that's why you have a monthly subscription. Correct I do,

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Speaker 1: and I love you. Know. I thought I was real

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Speaker 1: deplete you further. It means filling your cup so that

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Speaker 1: helping people to find that find those resources. We give

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Speaker 1: And so I get to do that and it makes

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? And that's why that's

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Speaker 1: why I love talking to you, because of the fact

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Speaker 1: tell them the truth. Sometimes we we we don't know

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Speaker 1: so focused on what people telling us. This is where

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Speaker 1: you make your money, this is direct that's the door

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to open. Going that door, do what they

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Speaker 1: tell you to do, come out, and your live a

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Speaker 1: successful life. But that doesn't mean that that's the long

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Speaker 1: term success. And because in the end, the Kim I

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Speaker 1: it's such a worldly voice, such a voice of confidence,

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Speaker 1: That is what I like about what I'm talking to,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I try to tell people on the show.

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Speaker 1: And when I see what you're doing, I gotta promote it.

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Speaker 1: And I'm mad because you did this this session, you

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Speaker 1: We just did a retreat and didn't even contact me,

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Speaker 1: and I keep telling your little skinny behind. I put

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Speaker 1: I got a name eight thousand, and it's got on

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Speaker 1: Should I be upset to not be upset with me?

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Speaker 1: Because we are going to collaborate because I want to

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Speaker 1: way through speaking, right, so when i'm you know, I'm

856
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: not on the show, and we'll talk about in the

857
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: cut in just a moment. But we filmed all that

858
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: in January. It was done. I had a full schedule

859
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: of speaking events, your women's empowerment events, entrepreneurial events, just

860
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: and it was a domino effect that one after the

861
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: other after the other after the other got they got canceled.

862
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my goodness, So you know

863
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: this is now March and April and May were canceled,

864
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: and in May, June, July and all just got canceled.

865
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: This it just kept going and some of these events

866
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: are like, we're not going to even try until I

867
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: was like, well, if my main source of connecting to

868
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: people other than online, uh, meaning like you know, doing

869
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: my own things online, is why don't I just create

870
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: a big thing online? And so captivating conversations provided me

871
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: an opportunity to do a five day summit with thirty speakers,

872
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: some of them you know from you know. I called

873
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: them my busin besties, my Hollywood besties, and my real besties,

874
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: and they each came on and talked about their their

875
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: perspective on how to thrive. At this time, I had

876
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: a meditation coach. I had you know, various business um

877
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: um folks teaching people how to take their business online.

878
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: It was like, wait a minute, I can headline my

879
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: own events all from my living room, and so why

880
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: not do that again? So yes, we'll be live again together.

881
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm miss hugging folks. My team gets mad at me

882
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: because I look, people think clear to hug, you come

883
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: home in for hugs. What do you mean? You know

884
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: that that's that's that's uh, that's and and that's really

885
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: interesting you say that because you know, with this whole

886
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: COVID it just really changed the way we emotionally treat

887
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: each other, you know, basically, you know, it's it's a disconnect,

888
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: and you know, and I kind of I kind of

889
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: wonder how that's going to affect this generation of young

890
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: people and children because COVID nineteen is not gonna go away.

891
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: It's not gonna go away, and so I don't think

892
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: it's gonna go away. And I hate these I mean,

893
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: I know we have to wear a mask, but I

894
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: don't like that you can't see I'm smiling at you.

895
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: And is that that's exactly the truth, that's exactly true,

896
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: is that you don't understand. And and sometimes I see

897
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: people I try to smile that go they don't see

898
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: me smiling, dummy, they you know, they don't. I want

899
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: to acknowledge people that I feel good about them being

900
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: around me in the grocery store and things of that nature,

901
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: because it really does take your your temperament down a

902
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: notch knowing that you can't you can't let everybody know

903
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: what's going on in your life. So it's really, it

904
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: really is amazing that your value to me, your value

905
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: to me is what you're doing on this side of

906
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: the table. And the beauty of it is that you

907
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: know this is only going to get bigger for you.

908
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: And so what is the future. What is the future

909
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: of Kim Colds but also tom Unity, you know customary, Well,

910
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: so I've got the community mastermind. Like I said, that's

911
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: a monthly membership. Then I've got I just enrolled a

912
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 1: group of ladies and something I call speak and get clients.

913
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: So we know that this is called the money making show, right,

914
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: So it think people how to use their stories in

915
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: order to connect with stential customers and clients and sell

916
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: their products and goods and services. Nothing better than listen.

917
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: We can't smile with each other because of these dag

918
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 1: on nests. But when I share with you my story

919
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: of the challenges I've come through and why I created

920
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: this fill in the blank, this book, this course, this

921
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: product that now will solve your solution, the best way

922
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: for me to share it is through my story. So

923
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: I teach that. So there's that, and then there is

924
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: everything else that goes along with it. You know, the

925
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: products that that come out of the ideas. You know,

926
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: the T shirts if you think that there won't be

927
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: a T shirt for the for the captivating conversations, perfectly

928
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: posing the proper then all those things, and then the

929
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: and and more coaching, more and more coaching. And I

930
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: do all this while sitting in you know, like I'm

931
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: not a person right now that's creating my own creative projects.

932
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: In terms of Hollywood, like, I don't have a sitcom

933
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: idea that I'm trying to pitch right now. I have

934
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: a movie idea that I'm trying to pitch right now.

935
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: I'm letting keeping myself afloat and keeping myself out there

936
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: with this aspect of my gift while I audition and

937
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: do these other things. So I'm sure that one day

938
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: there will be a sitcom from me or you know something.

939
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: But waiting and not waiting for them has provided me

940
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: the opportunity to create my own. So there there might

941
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: be a new YouTube show coming. Oh I love that.

942
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you about that. Come on, now, let's

943
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: talk about that. They gotta come, gotta come. It's time

944
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: for a podcast, which has to come. It has to go.

945
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: And I would, and I'm gonna tell you something, I

946
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: would do it. You know, podcasts are cool, but I

947
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: would do it through YouTube first. If I would do

948
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: it both, you know, if you can, you know, take

949
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: the audio, drop it on your YouTube and build those subscribers. Okay,

950
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: because of the fact that you you you you, I'm

951
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: just telling you got it, Kim, you got it. I

952
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, I hear, I see it. It's it's it's

953
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: a it's a structure in your boars. You put one

954
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: sentence and one word after the next, no stumbling. You

955
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: you got the tone, you got the conversation. You've got

956
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: the ability to motivate, and you are very nice in

957
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: your approach. In other words, you know, it's like it's

958
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: like you're putting the hand on my back and saying

959
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: you can do it, and I'm gonna show you how,

960
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: which means that it's much more, much more empowering, because

961
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 1: you're not gonna leave me at the door and close

962
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: it behind me. Right. Well, and you're right, and I

963
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: think that we have enough people who are um, you know,

964
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: wanting to be sort of on top. Is the one

965
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: that's in control of everything. I'm saying, let's all grow together,

966
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: let's all build together. What do you bring to the table.

967
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: What do you bring to the table, What do you

968
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: bring to the table? Great, let's get together and and

969
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: inspire and motivate more. And and the thing is that

970
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: when we touch each other in that way, it reverberates,

971
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: that becomes, you know, the drop in the pond. So

972
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: the more we collaborate, the more we create experiences for

973
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: other people. With your platform, you have, you know, people

974
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: can listen and learn and and experience. And it's not

975
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: just you sitting in your ivory tower going I am Rashan,

976
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: and I can create. You're saying, I can create, and

977
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: then I can teach. I can create, and then I

978
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: can share and you can and I can spark it

979
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: in YouTube. And we need that more than ever. Right

980
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: now we can't. We've got to get out of our

981
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: silos um and I know that this pandemic, you know,

982
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: made us go indoors. We have to find new ways

983
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,320
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984
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,040
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Sean McDonald. Imagine this. This is a

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Speaker 1: side note about you know, because uh, the things we're

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00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,400
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00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: African American community, the the you know, Black Lives Matter movement. Uh,

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00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: seeing white people be more upset than we are, which

1013
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Speaker 1: of the car, you know that, right, right? But thank you,

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00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I appreciate you. Love that. And

1016
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Speaker 1: a vaccine and uh, you know where where is your

1018
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: comfort zone right now? You know, because you're a leader,

1019
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: you're you're motivating us. But it also takes its toll

1020
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: because you can't show week this, you can't show frail

1021
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: the attack, you can't show that that hey, I'm this

1022
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: is affecting me too, because you have to always to

1023
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 1: be pro positive, pro planner, plow thinker. How's it affecting you? Well,

1024
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, that's interesting. It's finding that fine line between

1025
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: allowing yourself to be vulnerable and other people to see

1026
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: to be vulnerable. Um actually makes you even more human,

1027
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 1: right and it makes you I think it helps people

1028
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: to relate to you. I know that what I'm doing

1029
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: right now for my self care is I am I

1030
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: I can't go out, so I stay within. And what

1031
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean by that is, I'm doing a lot of

1032
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: spiritual work at this time. I'm a lot of I'm

1033
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: doing a lot of work where I fill my cup

1034
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: so much so that when I do, when I am

1035
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: in a position to help or coach or be that

1036
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: I am as full as I can be even given

1037
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: this ugly, this ugly experience, and there will be times

1038
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: when I wring my head in my hands too and

1039
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: just go like, what is going on? I don't know

1040
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: what the answers are. There's so much out there that

1041
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: is um confusing, and uh, I can be very depressing,

1042
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: but it's it's upon me to keep my spirits up

1043
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: so I can then keep the spirits of others. And

1044
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: what I do is, I don't you know, I'm not

1045
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: a person that's going to fall on the bed hooping

1046
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: and holland crying and let people see it. Just I'll

1047
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: let you know I did that. I let you know

1048
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: I dried k tears and got it together. And this

1049
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: is what I did to get myself together. And if

1050
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: you want to fall in the bed hooping holland, I

1051
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: don't know that I'm going to instagram that live, but

1052
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: I will tell you that I just finished crying. I

1053
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: got myself together and here's what I did. And so

1054
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: it's finding that balance for yourself, finding that harmony. And

1055
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: remember early on I put up a post that you know,

1056
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: there were lots of people talking about being strong and

1057
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm a warrior and all that and then I put

1058
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: up this post that said, if you need to cry, cry,

1059
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: if you need to be quiet, be quiet. If you

1060
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: need to pull the covers over your head for a minute,

1061
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: it's perfectly understandable. And then get the tools that you

1062
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: need to keep you going. Find the perspective, find the joy,

1063
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: joyful moments in there, because they are there. There are

1064
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: opportunities right now for us to connect in new ways

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Speaker 1: that that are required. And I believe Rashaan with all

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Speaker 1: my heart that the light must win over the dark,

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Speaker 1: you know, human right, that's what I'm talking about. I

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Speaker 1: talk like that. I felt like, you know, I felt

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Speaker 1: I'm just hearing your voice, feel the heat felt. But

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Speaker 1: it's the end of the end of everything, is we

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Speaker 1: know it? I'm like, yeah, the end of some stuff,

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Speaker 1: but we've lasted this long. There's no way that we

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Speaker 1: can't come through this. That's the way. Absolutely. I don't

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Speaker 1: believe you know, yeah, I truly believe and trust that

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Speaker 1: you understand what we're talking about. And then let's let

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Speaker 1: Billy is gonna be mad. I've talked like twenty three

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Speaker 1: minutes with you and we haven't even mentioned in the cut,

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Speaker 1: So I hope he doesn't hear this podcast now in

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Speaker 1: the cut. That's My Boy on Bounce TV every Wednesday

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Speaker 1: a p m. Eastern Standard Time. I interview Mark Curry.

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Speaker 1: He's new to the show currently. This is the seventh season.

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Speaker 1: You kind of mentioned it earlier, taped in in December

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Speaker 1: January time frame. Pre covid you on the show, what

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Speaker 1: your restaurant are, tell us about your character, and tell

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Speaker 1: us about this upcoming sea. Well, so first of all,

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Speaker 1: let me just say what an honor it is to

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Speaker 1: come on in to work on Monday. You ain't got

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Speaker 1: the audition, you know, you know, the knowing that I

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Speaker 1: built up enough of a reputation, uh and and quality

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Speaker 1: the audition, just I'll see you on the third or

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Speaker 1: whatever the date was. So that's number one. To be

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Speaker 1: You know, he's got Bentley who knows what he's doing

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Speaker 1: because he's been doing this for, you know, for a while.

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Speaker 1: And he has a symboled the team of people who

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Speaker 1: just it just works, It just works. And so yes,

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Speaker 1: I am the current owner of Mabel's Tables. Uh, and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm playing a character unlike I've ever played before.

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Speaker 1: And and to have him say to you on the

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Speaker 1: first day of work, just do what you do, I'm like, really, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you get the words on the page. Who didn't play.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to support you and if it doesn't work,

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Speaker 1: we'll say, try it again. And so that freedom was

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Speaker 1: such a joy that to have all crazy uh, and

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Speaker 1: to play with Mark Curry in this way, who is

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Speaker 1: the good things about Mark Curry is that he keeps

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Speaker 1: you on your toes, so you never know what he's

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Speaker 1: gonna do, and so that sharpens my tool, that sharpest mind.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, he's a great person to play with

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Speaker 1: able to throw the ball back in his court. So

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Speaker 1: it was such a joy, you know. Dorian Wilson who

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Speaker 1: So it was a joy to do and we did

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Speaker 1: it and it was done, and it's so much fun

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Speaker 1: it's just wonderful. Not Mabel's Tables. Now we have a

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Speaker 1: menu there are is it? Is it a restaurant that's

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Speaker 1: kind of like struggling on you you're turning customers away.

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Speaker 1: What is Mayble's table and which he's saving over there?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Is it a soulful restaurategy? What is Mabel's Tables? Well,

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Speaker 1: what's interesting? And I have to pay omar to uh

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Speaker 1: to our lovely Lord Hayes girl, everybody, Dorian Wilson. That

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Speaker 1: from the Parker Kid Lost and he's from the Parker's

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Speaker 1: Colinas spirit. That's from Bernie Maxhell. Laura Hey, it just

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Speaker 1: like I walk in there bo I started kissing at everybody, right,

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Speaker 1: So Laura Hayes has at this point left Mabel's table,

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Speaker 1: and if I had to send word to her to say, Laura,

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Speaker 1: I hope you all right, right right, I love you

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Speaker 1: some Lord Hayes. So it's her restaurant, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know what what story because you know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what story they tell that she's no longer running it.

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Speaker 1: But now there's a woman named Trish. I'm Trish and

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Speaker 1: and so we served soul food but done very exotic,

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Speaker 1: Uh see, you just sold food. People don't put enough

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Speaker 1: food on the plate, but it's put the words are

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Speaker 1: longer than the food that you give me. Okay, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversations. I'm your host Sean

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Speaker 1: McDonald on my show today. Have two guests. Someone introduced

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Speaker 1: him separately. One I've known for a long time in

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Speaker 1: the in the Steve Harvey Morning Show days. His name

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Speaker 1: is ron Gil Yard. He's a trusted marketing and media

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Speaker 1: executive who has advanced the initiative of companies and individuals

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Speaker 1: able to consistently drive revenue growth, market penetration, and create

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Speaker 1: time he's on the West coast. He already told me.

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Speaker 1: His name is Will Campbell. He's the co founder and

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Speaker 1: CEO a Quantasy LLC. Will's more than twenty five year

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Speaker 1: you want to come up with new answers, you have

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Speaker 1: now Mounster more than sixty people and one fully integrated

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Speaker 1: cultural marketing force. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations, Chief

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Speaker 1: Growth Officer of Quantasy and Associates, where he is also

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Speaker 1: a partner with co founder and CEO a Quantasy LLC,

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Speaker 1: Ron Gillyard and Will Campbell. Thank you, sir, I had

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Speaker 1: to get a lot of you got a lot of

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Speaker 1: talking about man. You know, what I'm saying. But when

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Speaker 1: you have something like when Off, I would just letting

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Speaker 1: them know about the show. Everybody. I was just setting

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Speaker 1: up what this show really about. And I hope they

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Speaker 1: took us a compliment. I felt that in the industry

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Speaker 1: that we that I try to reach the entrepreneurial space,

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Speaker 1: the information space. YouTube guys are to me, it's recognizable

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Speaker 1: talents like Kevin Hard type talents, like the high profile

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Speaker 1: celebrity talents. You've got some celebrities in your own right

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Speaker 1: as what you guys are doing in this particular brand

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Speaker 1: of business. And since you are the co founder and

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Speaker 1: the CEO of Quantasy LLC, Well, Cowbell, tell us what

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Speaker 1: that what that company does? Initially, Yeah, thanks for Sean. UM.

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Speaker 1: So we're creative services agency UM. I think the shortest

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Speaker 1: way to put it is we help businesses and brands

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Speaker 1: grow by Christian culture in the right direction UM. And

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Speaker 1: the services that we provide extended entertainment, technology, marketing, branding,

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Speaker 1: UM and how we bring culture into those worlds to

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Speaker 1: help grow businesses and brands. Right, So, now that's that's

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Speaker 1: the creative shot. Then then run you come in. I

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Speaker 1: see revenue growth tied to your name explain to me

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Speaker 1: and I listen to exactly what does that mean? UM,

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Speaker 1: that means finding opportunities to to grow the company from

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Speaker 1: a financial standpoint, from revenue standpoint, from a side standpoint,

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Speaker 1: and helping our partners. You know, the sign of a

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Speaker 1: good partner is someone who not only you know, who

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Speaker 1: pays you money. Yeah, you're an employee, if they just

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Speaker 1: pay you, but if you're able to show them ways

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Speaker 1: in which they can grow their business and elevate you know,

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Speaker 1: their business and grow their revenue, then that's the sign

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Speaker 1: of a good partnership. So with the clients that we

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Speaker 1: have and hope to have, UM, we've always tried to

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Speaker 1: not only you know, be there and be creative from

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Speaker 1: the marketing side, but we look at that business Will

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01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: and myself and and other members of the team, and

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01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: we try to find ways if they're not thinking about something,

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Speaker 1: to illuminate that for them. I used to always say,

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01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: sometimes you're so to ze running the store that you

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01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 1: you you spend no time growing the store or you know,

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01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: so just finding ways to to to increase profitability. Where

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01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: it's like to say, you know, you can't make the Hamburger,

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Speaker 1: clean up the store and drop the fries at the

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Speaker 1: same time, somebody got to be working a cash register

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Speaker 1: to you know, And that's really what this is all about.

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01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: When when I try to interview people on these shows,

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01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: I try to get information about what money making conversation

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Speaker 1: really is all about. It's about these different layers that

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Speaker 1: we have out there. And so Will, why did you

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01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: why did you bring up individual like Ron into your company? What?

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Speaker 1: What what visionary needs did you have to have somebody

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01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: in your platform? Yeah, you know, it's interesting, man. When

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Speaker 1: when we first started this company, you know, we saw

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Speaker 1: these different worlds. Uh, there were people in the entertainment space, um,

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Speaker 1: and then on a whole different plane, there were people

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: in the tech space, UM. And then in a whole

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01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: different world there were people in the marketing space. And

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01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: they were all very sort of like disconnected units. But

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01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: I always saw it as one space. I always saw

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Speaker 1: how technology works with entertainment works with brand development as

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Speaker 1: one thing. And then as as Ron and I developed

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01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: our friendship first he instantly occurred to me and somebody

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Speaker 1: that just got that, and it's it's a way that

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01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: he had been working for years and years. He and

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01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: I started off on some entrepreneurial things doing some things together. Um,

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Speaker 1: And it came to the point where it was like, hey, man,

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01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: I would love for you to come over here and

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Speaker 1: help me grow this. We had a similar vision um

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01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: as well as with my other partner, and so it

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01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: really was just a clear understanding and he has so

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01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: much knowledge and insight into where we were trying to

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01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 1: take the business. It just made a lot of sense

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Speaker 1: for us. Okay, now he now he threw something out

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Speaker 1: in I gotta ask you what knowledge it insight did

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Speaker 1: you have? Ron? I just I'm just just being curious here.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm listening to a visionary, solved person over there.

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Speaker 1: And I love you. You know, I've always loved your

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01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: personality because I don't care what was going bad, good,

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01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: You're always rong. You stayed right there, you stay centered.

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Speaker 1: So what what what qualities did you have that Ron?

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01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: That that really just just stepped the whole process that

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Speaker 1: made it a great partnership. UM. No better question for Will,

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Speaker 1: but I will. Sometimes sometimes you gotta talk about yourself. Okay,

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01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: other people talk about you, but sometimes you gotta talk

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Speaker 1: about this because a lot of people don't do that.

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Speaker 1: That's what social media is all about. Social media is

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Speaker 1: is the form I call it. We live in the Mohammad,

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Speaker 1: the Mamahali era, That's what I call people. Because you

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01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,560
Speaker 1: gotta tell people the greatest now because he's he branded it,

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Speaker 1: but now people are doing it now. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying you gotta tell the people you the greatest. But

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01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: there are qualities that people see in people like you

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01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 1: that some people need to like understand that has value.

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Speaker 1: And I met you in the record game, you know,

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01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: when I was listening to the player music. We had

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Speaker 1: all these radio show, radio stations and things like that.

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Speaker 1: That's how I relationship. Now you're in a whole different platform,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't know how to make

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01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 1: that transition. They feel like they're stuck. Yeah. So for me,

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Speaker 1: I've always had a week not me mentality. I have

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Speaker 1: always tried to analyze. I think my one of my

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Speaker 1: biggest faults is also one of my biggest biggest assets,

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01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: and I needed to down downsize the fault part of

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01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: that and and but recognize it. I was never comfortable

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01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: in the space that I was in. I was always

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:51,759
Speaker 1: looking towards the next what's next. When I was an intern,

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01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: I was trying to imagine I came to work every

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01:13:54,760 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: day dressed like I was the director of marketing or

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01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: director of A and R. When I was that, I

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01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: was came as if I was the vice president. And

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01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: I just came to work every day thinking like I'm

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01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: gonna run this particular job that I have. Is if

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Speaker 1: I'm the president of this organization. I'm not, but I

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01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: know that I want to be. So I was always

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Speaker 1: off in the future. Um, I think that you know

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01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: you said, I'm always calm. I think this is me angry,

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01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: this is me mana glad whatever. So I'm always senator,

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01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm always watching. I learned at the early age that

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Speaker 1: you were gonna learn so much more by listening than talking.

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Speaker 1: So it was I think it's the reason guy gave

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01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 1: us two years in one mouth. The other thing is

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Speaker 1: I was in a business that, in the music business,

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01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: my job was to spot talent. But I didn't just

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Speaker 1: look for people that could singer dance. I also looked

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Speaker 1: for people that had had a different kind of talent

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Speaker 1: and executive talent. And I've worked, you know, with some

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Speaker 1: really really smart, legendary if you will people. And I

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01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: said when I got in the music business that when

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Speaker 1: they wrote the book about hip hop. When they wrote

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Speaker 1: the book about R and B music, Um, I at

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Speaker 1: least one of the sentence in that book, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, if I get a chapter, so be it.

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01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: And but I became robbing to a lot of Batman's right.

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Speaker 1: And I worked alongside Andre Horrell. I worked alongside Sean

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Speaker 1: Combs or p Diddy or Puff Daddy or Puff or

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Speaker 1: Diddy or whicheveryone we're going with this week. So I

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01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: worked alongside Clive Davis, Jimmy Iveen, um, you know, Irving

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01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: aids Off, Simon Rinshaw, some of the best in the

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01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: business to do it and to be honest. When I

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01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: met Will, I always tell this funny story, which I'll

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01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's long, so I'll breathe it. I realized Will,

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01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: because sell water to a drowning man, you could sell

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01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: saying to an era. And I was like, there's something

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01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: about this guy. And he had similar qualities to some

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Speaker 1: of those people that I named that I've worked with

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01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: in the music business. And so it was a no

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01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: brainer for me to try to be helpful. And I

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01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 1: had a perspective and I had this worldview, and you

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01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,560
Speaker 1: get elevated to this in music, you get elevated to

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: this somewhat unreal perch of that you know everything when

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Speaker 1: you don't. But since I was on that perch, I

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01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: was gonna try to read and and consume as much

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Speaker 1: knowledge as possible. And I'm not a talkative guy normally,

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01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: but if I become comfortable with you, it's hard to

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01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: shut me up when I think I know something. Definitely, Uh,

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01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: you have to skip the gift of gap. We all

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01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: need to have that in order to be successful in

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Speaker 1: this business. I'm speaking to just reintroducing you guys to

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01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: my audience. Roun Guillyard and Will Campbell Quantity and Associates

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01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: Quantity LLC, which especially a fully integrated cultural and marketing force.

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01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: Um Ron is on the West East coast and Willows

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01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: on the West coast. Now, Will he said something, You

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: said that you can sell water to a drowning man. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So now the pandemic hit. Now, when the pandemic hit

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01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: in Marching, this country said we have to shut down.

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01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: All my staff became employed via zoom and so I

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01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: don't have sixty people, but I got enough that I

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01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: had to keep the checks rolling to greet some type

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01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: of synergy. And also trying to continue to make money,

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01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: a plan to make money. So with the skilled level,

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01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: did you have being able to sell water to to

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01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: the water to a drowning man? What did you do

1409
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: when it and what was your perspective when the COVID

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01:17:55,560 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: ainteen hit and the impacted your business practices? UM? I

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01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: mean it was you know, when it comes to I

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01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: think the idea of selling two people, it's about how

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01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: you can help. And now's the question we asked, how

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Speaker 1: can I help? Where can I help? UM? And and

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01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: helping people sells itself. UM. And you know, I don't

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01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: think people play enough value on what it means to

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01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: provide value to others. So what we did we really

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01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 1: looked at UM the people in our world and what

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01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: challenges they were facing, what new challenges they were facing

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01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: in light of the pandemic UM and where we could

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01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: come in and play a role. And so for each

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01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: of our different clients that were different issues that they

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01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: were suffering to look like, we also looked internally, but

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Speaker 1: as for instance, UM, knowing that we have in house

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01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: engineering and technology chops. UM, we look that event business

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01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: which had gotten decimated because you know, people couldn't produce events.

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01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 1: We had clients that had events scheduled that they had

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Speaker 1: to cancel. We have friends that are event producers, UM,

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01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: and so we delivered technology that we had already been

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Speaker 1: working on to create virtual events and UM. You know

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01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 1: people in the business. For instance, working closely with Rich

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01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: Dennis Essence, who's also a visionary, great guy, UM, their

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Speaker 1: Essence Festival, which as you know, is a massive, massive,

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Speaker 1: massive event people generally it was gonna be canceled. So

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Speaker 1: not only do do those six hundred thousand people within

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Speaker 1: the black community missed out on this huge opportunity, there's

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Speaker 1: a whole laundry list of clients and sponsors and all that.

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01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: So this would be a big revenue hit, right, So

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01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: bye bye. Partner with Rich and his team to deliver

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Speaker 1: the Essence Fest. Virtually, he's got a great group of

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01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: producers and staff on his side as well. By a

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01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: partner with him to deliver it, he was able to

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01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,759
Speaker 1: help those clients to recover that revenue and still serve

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01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:21,719
Speaker 1: his mission and his and his audience and his Essence

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01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 1: subscribers and so like I said that that sells itself, UM,

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01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 1: And so identifying those opportunities to help people is really

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Speaker 1: where it starts. We'll be right back with more from

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Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting that you brought up to

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Speaker 1: essence because of the fact it is a massive live

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Speaker 1: event and massive live events or any live events. You know,

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Speaker 1: it affected individuals, tour and stand up comedians, singers, large tours,

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Speaker 1: movie theaters, anything that had mass attendance was affected by

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Speaker 1: the country shutdown, as well as still affected by the

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Speaker 1: COVID naeteen and the virus that may be encountered without

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Speaker 1: or SoC social distancing their masks. Now do you feel

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Speaker 1: that they're because of the pandemic that the virtual industry

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Speaker 1: When I say that virtual entertainment side has been even

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Speaker 1: more developed when I watched the MMIs last night and

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Speaker 1: just watching, uh, you know, I've been fortunate to participate

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Speaker 1: in some self produced virtual events myself. What do you

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Speaker 1: think the Essence Festival would always would consider doing a

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Speaker 1: virtual version of it because of the success that had

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Speaker 1: this year, or you think that the live way is

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Speaker 1: the only way that they're going to continue to do business.

1481
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,560
Speaker 1: And what a great question. And here and here's what

1482
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: I say. I'm gonna go back to go forward. So,

1483
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: as you know, in recent years, a lot of the

1484
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: business skylind whether it's Coachella, whether it's Essence Festival, showing

1485
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: about music, festivals, conferences, complex coun you name it and

1486
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:58,879
Speaker 1: from and these were huge revenue centers, right, sponsors for products,

1487
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 1: sales for tickets, for all of those kinds of things.

1488
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: But what you've seen recently over the last years is

1489
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: how much these a lot event experiences were working to

1490
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: become more digital anyway. Right, So you go to event,

1491
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:19,440
Speaker 1: now you're saying, uh, photo ops for Instagram and hashtags

1492
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: to track this and to sell this, because creating an

1493
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: epicenter of culture and activity that could then spawn a

1494
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: global reach, right to create more engagement um from all

1495
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 1: around the world. So I think that global perspective of

1496
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: a live event is only going to continue. I think

1497
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: during purely virtual events, I think there's some fatigue around that,

1498
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: and so I think even though they have swelled, when

1499
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: the actual physical events come back, it's going to enhance

1500
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: the virtual eventage, right because now it's like, hey, you

1501
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: can participate pay in this event um in addition to

1502
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: the physical versus instead of right, it's not instead of

1503
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 1: it's how it's how they work together. So now you

1504
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: can have a coach olla, a conference kind of essence best,

1505
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: but still have a global reach where people can kind

1506
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 1: of participate and grow. So I think that physical events

1507
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,839
Speaker 1: will come back, and they'll come back with even greater

1508
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: digital extensions and capacity going forward. And so with that

1509
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: being said, Rod I was talking to the agency that

1510
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: represents the Air Force and we were talking about virtual events,

1511
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 1: and they were saying, is you know they've not seen

1512
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: enough yet to quantify quantify the success or whether these

1513
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: virtual events were because you know, in a live event,

1514
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 1: you know, when somebody walks through the door, you can

1515
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: that's a person. You can you can get their information,

1516
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: get their background information, and they can be part of

1517
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: the data growth and you can you can you can

1518
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: justify uh that action. Now when you're getting into this

1519
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 1: virtual world, which is a potential new revenue growth stream

1520
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: for for you to be able to go out there

1521
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: and talk to new partners or old partners, how does

1522
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: this conversation I just had with Will and the conversation

1523
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: I just had with this agency that represents the Air

1524
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: Force come coming to play with you and what you're

1525
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: when you're when you're trying to generate revenue growth. I

1526
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: think the thing that I tell someone and I didn't

1527
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take credit for this quote. Well, there's

1528
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 1: two quotes that I try to tell try to slip

1529
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: into every conversation that I have with someone about growth.

1530
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,600
Speaker 1: One of them is predicting rain doesn't count building the

1531
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: arc does. There are a lot of people that could

1532
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: tell you what's gonna happen and what they think is

1533
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: gonna happen and all of this other stuff, and they

1534
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: do nothing and then they're still not prepared when that

1535
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:53,839
Speaker 1: thing happens. Right um. The other one is the quickest

1536
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: way to failure is always is saying but that's not

1537
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: how we've always done it. And so I think to

1538
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: paggyback on the question that you ask Will and and

1539
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 1: and also to answer the question that you've just asked

1540
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: me is and I'll tell this story. We started building

1541
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 1: that virtual platform that Will spoke of before COVID nineteen.

1542
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: We we started building it off an idea of what if, again,

1543
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:29,600
Speaker 1: asking different questions, right, um, what if I can experience?

1544
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: What if I want to experience the live event? And

1545
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: then we'll use essence as an example. There are things

1546
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: that essence that you are missing out on when you

1547
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 1: make certain decisions right about what you're going to do

1548
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: and how you're going to spend your time. Yes, everyone

1549
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: is in the stadium at night, but there are seminars

1550
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: by day. There's you know, they take over the convention center,

1551
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: you can go shopping, you could do all of these

1552
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,959
Speaker 1: other things, and all of these so you make choices

1553
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 1: and you don't get to see other things. Virtual allows

1554
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: you to get that rest you need for that Janet

1555
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: Jackson concert tonight and still see that panel with Rashan

1556
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: during the daytime. Right, And so from a revenue growth standpoint,

1557
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: this person has spent money on the ticket, spent money

1558
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 1: on a hotel, renting a car, or engaging in ubers

1559
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 1: and transportation, building that local economy, building money for you know,

1560
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: Essence Coffers. Where's the revenue? Where's the growth potential? I'm

1561
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: gonna charge him to log in to see Rashawn's panel,

1562
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 1: and he could still be in his hotel room. He

1563
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: or she could still be in their hotel room preparing

1564
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: for a concert that they're gonna see tonight. So there

1565
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: was always I have a comic con analogy, I have

1566
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 1: a complex kind analogy, have all of those other things.

1567
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 1: So I think the other thing is the barrier of entry.

1568
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,759
Speaker 1: We all had to sign into Zoom. I clicked the button,

1569
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: I clicked on the link. Someone in your organization let

1570
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: me in, and we're here. But if you wanted to

1571
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: gather more information, then I fill out something so that

1572
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: same data that you're getting by might be physically buying

1573
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: that ticket through ticket Master or whatever for that live event,

1574
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,719
Speaker 1: you can gather that gap data and a more accurate

1575
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: version of that data digitally. And so all of that

1576
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: helps with UM growth and thinking about UM how to

1577
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 1: engage both in a physical and digital world. I love

1578
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: before COVID nineteen, I think people thought it was one

1579
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: or the other, and we've we always viewed it as

1580
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: one Ambia, which is very smart when you when I

1581
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: see companies like Disney when they do what they're doing

1582
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: with the movie move On, which they yet to tell

1583
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: anybody how much money they made so far, when they said, look,

1584
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 1: we got eighty million subscribers and we're gonna charge thirty

1585
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: dollars a ticket. If we can pull in ten percent

1586
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 1: of that and still put this in the movies. There

1587
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 1: that ten percent that we got, we get we control

1588
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: one hurt percent. And the thing that you know, one

1589
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: of the major reasons of just hearing numbers like that

1590
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 1: and talking to a growth a spirit and talking to

1591
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: a founder or a visionary can consider both of you

1592
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,839
Speaker 1: guys visionaries when I when I talk about the futures

1593
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 1: that the technology aspect, and one thing is always angered

1594
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 1: me guys, is that blacks has always been viewed as

1595
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: less less capable of delivering the technically advanced are the

1596
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 1: the technically perceived well organized platform? Do you what? What

1597
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 1: do you have to fight against will when you talk

1598
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: about your your business when people and not saying people

1599
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: are doing this. Let me just get that cleared up.

1600
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about my experience and dealing with people

1601
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: having a having a point of view that can be

1602
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: limited based on what they perceived I can do as

1603
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 1: an after that an American or as a company, how

1604
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 1: do you walk through that next step and and present

1605
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: your company is capable of doing everything you know? UM?

1606
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: The short answer is sometimes you can show them better

1607
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: than you can tell them. UM. And I think that

1608
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: you have to UM put your faith in your team

1609
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: and the work and do what you can UM. Now

1610
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: that said, there are a lot of barriers to access

1611
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: that we face, UM, limitations to resources that we face,

1612
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 1: and so at the same token, I'm fully aware of that,

1613
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 1: and I think just because maybe I've been able to

1614
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: have some success doing X y Z doesn't guarantee that

1615
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 1: the next person in my position is going to have

1616
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: a fair shot, and so I don't just look at

1617
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 1: it it's like, oh, well, hey, look we did it.

1618
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: And even though that there's those that have done more

1619
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 1: and have had greater success than us, I know that

1620
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: there's always like various limitations and so UM. With that

1621
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 1: in mind, we still spend a lot of our time

1622
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: trying to break down those barriers with some of the

1623
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: philothrophic work that we do, with some of the advocacy

1624
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: work that we do. I serve on the Los Angeles

1625
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: County UM Small Business Commission for that exact reason, to

1626
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: find ways to advocate for resources and opportunities for small

1627
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 1: businesses UM in in l A, which is largely UM minority.

1628
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: So UM, for me personally, it's about continuing to trying

1629
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: to partner with the right people gain access. For instance,

1630
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 1: in this opportunity to be able to partner with you

1631
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: will share knowledge and information to to an audience that's

1632
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 1: come to trust what you're doing and what you have

1633
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: to say UM, and then just continue to focus on

1634
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 1: doing really good work UM so that people you know,

1635
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 1: gain trust in what you're doing. We know that reason.

1636
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: I bring that up because I've been fortunate to be

1637
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: in this business, especially on the radio side, from two

1638
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: thousand and listen watch agencies to go from black agencies

1639
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,719
Speaker 1: to the term multi cultural agencies, and then they started

1640
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 1: giving up the money and the money seems to be

1641
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 1: lesser for the on the black side of the agency

1642
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 1: is trying to target that particular audience. And so now

1643
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 1: in the middle of a pandemic, and we've seen a

1644
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 1: tremendous surge. When I say surge, I'm talking about Black

1645
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:31,600
Speaker 1: Lives Matters. We've seen HBCU donations, We've seen companies announced

1646
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:35,520
Speaker 1: that they have money set aside for minority supplier development,

1647
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 1: but not letting you know that minorities suppliers also include

1648
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: white women. Okay, But and so when you're dealing with

1649
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 1: all these things, do you feel there's an opportunity now

1650
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: to really put your business into the forefront run or

1651
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: will most of you guys can answer it one of

1652
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: the time. I just want to get a sense of

1653
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 1: looking at what we are the landscape now all we're

1654
01:32:55,680 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 1: able to really jump out there now and participate. Um,

1655
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, I would say into a certain degree, yes, Um,

1656
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 1: I think that what we've seen and just to sar

1657
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: some positive light on it. I think the the global

1658
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,839
Speaker 1: awakening that you've seen has has a lot of people

1659
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: done meenuinely reacting to the recent events and genuinely saying no,

1660
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 1: we can't allow this to continue, and genuinely trying to

1661
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 1: engage in conversations and looking to support black businesses and

1662
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 1: trying to find out what they can do when we

1663
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 1: see the rise of ally ship and I think that

1664
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 1: there's a certain genuine nature of that UM And I

1665
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 1: think there's a recognition of some of the some of

1666
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: the some of the black milses getting our partentialies have

1667
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: been doing great work for decades, you know, phenomenal work

1668
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 1: for decades. So I do think that there's a little

1669
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 1: bit of a broader opportunity that I think that we're

1670
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 1: happy about. It's not enough, right. The playing field has

1671
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: not been leveled, right. The system hasn't been dismantled yet.

1672
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 1: But to answer your question, I do think that we're

1673
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: seeing opportunities open up and some more focus. UM. But

1674
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: but the work is nowhere. They're close to being finished.

1675
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 1: It's not it's not. Before I Before I wrap up

1676
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 1: the calle, they want to thank you guys for the time,

1677
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: and you've given me to just talk about your brand,

1678
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: talk about YouTube visionaries from a standpoint of what you

1679
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: deal with now before the pandemic, while the pandemic and

1680
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: post pandemic, because we have to always think that there

1681
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 1: is a future, and if you don't plan for the future,

1682
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: then then there's no opportunity to see success. Now, there's

1683
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 1: an app called the True Voice and Mindfulness app for

1684
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:56,679
Speaker 1: women of color. Roy what exactly is that? Wow? True Voice,

1685
01:34:56,760 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 1: so true voice. Um M. We looked out over the

1686
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 1: landscape and I'm talking to two black men here talk

1687
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 1: about we look over the landscape and so we have

1688
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 1: we try to look through with through the lens of business,

1689
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 1: but also through a cultural lens. And we noticed that

1690
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 1: in the world of mindfulness and and as we deal

1691
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Speaker 1: with we deal I hear people talk about wearing the

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Speaker 1: same we're all in the same storm. I mean, no,

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Speaker 1: we're all in the same boat. We're all in the

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Speaker 1: same boat. And no we're in the same storm. We're

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01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 1: definitely in different boats, right. And so when you look

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Speaker 1: at these apps and meditational apps and things like that,

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01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 1: that we're very general market and there weren't very specific two.

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01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 1: Um the cultural realities of women of color or people

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01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 1: of color, and again, predicting rain doesn't count building the

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01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: arc does. We decided that we wanted to play a miss,

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01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 1: that it would be great to introduce something that had

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01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: that hits some of the cultural beats of that. These

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01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 1: other mindfulness or um apps, these mindfulness apps were missing

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01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: out on the other part of it is you know,

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01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 1: see your other question earlier question. Once again, an industry

1706
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 1: was was growing and being valued at hundreds of millions,

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01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 1: if not billions of dollars, and people of color to

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01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 1: the degree that they were being thought of, We're only

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01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: thought of as consumers. You weren't thought of as stakeholders

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01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 1: in these businesses. And we had seen that in so

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01:36:56,120 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 1: many other industries before that. We decided that it be

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01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 1: good to introduce something like this as fathers of daughters,

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01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: as friends that have each other to lean on and

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01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: talk through other things. Someone who believes in counseling. Um

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01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 1: Will's mother, it's a clinical psychologists, grew up, you know,

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01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: spent her career in that business. It was something that

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01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 1: we saw the value in and the importance of, and

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01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: so it wasn't much like you know, to put it

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01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 1: in layman's terms, think of calm or headspace, but through

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01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:36,679
Speaker 1: the lens, the cultural lens of minorities or women of color.

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01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 1: It's really uh, thank you for that, that great response.

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01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: I know that as a black man, and and seeing

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01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 1: like you said earlier, will the cultural rage worldwide about

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01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 1: what happened with the George Floyd. You know, I'm talking

1725
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: to black men. You know the experience of work we

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01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: have to deal with when a policeman I don't I

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01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,759
Speaker 1: don't comfortably. I don't feel comfortable when the policeman stops

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Speaker 1: me because I don't know why he's stopping me, and

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01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't. And when he got pulled out of Mercedes

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Speaker 1: Being I told Steven name Smith, I said, the game

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Speaker 1: and change they pulled him out of that wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: beat up car they pulled him out of. They pulled

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Speaker 1: him out of Mercedes Bend, and so that that that

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01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: level of disrespect showed itself. But what also came out

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01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: of this was it was really interesting. And a lot

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01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: of my white friends called me that weekend and go,

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01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was that was the question they said.

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01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know. They said that you you actually have

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01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 1: to deal with this. I said yeah, and so being

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01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 1: able to almost lived my life through a lens of honesty.

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01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying I didn't because I'm Rushan McDonald.

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01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how I feel and what I fear.

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01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 1: But if people are looking at me with a sense

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01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 1: of understanding what I have to deal with, will help

1745
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 1: us win and when I when I And that's why

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01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring YouTube gentlemen on the show, because

1747
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: you're in a world that you know, sometimes people don't

1748
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 1: appreciate you and we'll say you can only do this,

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01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,560
Speaker 1: And we talked about the American experience, but I know

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01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 1: for a fact you can. Guys can do any experience.

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01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,679
Speaker 1: And so but sometimes you say, I'm gonna win here

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01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: to win here the financial pictures. So with that being said,

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01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: well are you what is the future of your company?

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01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 1: What is you? You? You? You broke Ron into this,

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01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 1: Ron is the growth right a partner. What is the

1756
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 1: future of your company and your brand? Yeah? I think

1757
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 1: that it's um to one is to get better at

1758
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:32,759
Speaker 1: making the pivot. I think that as we go forward,

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01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, one of the single most important skills that

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01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:42,679
Speaker 1: we can develop is the ability to pivot. And that's

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01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: how you play the long game, right, UM, because so

1762
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 1: much information that is coming out of so fast things happen,

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01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 1: things change all the time, and so really honing the

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01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:57,799
Speaker 1: skills that make us good at being able to pivot.

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01:39:58,120 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: And I think when you lear that with what we

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01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 1: about earlier on even the reason that you that you're

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01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: doing the show in terms of helping people, and when

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01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: you layer that day and how can I help people?

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01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:13,719
Speaker 1: Helping people sometimes means being philanthropic, sometimes it means providing

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01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 1: a service for a fee. In terms of developing a business, right,

1771
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 1: So I think for us, it's focusing on those two things.

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01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: How do we continue to add value in markets in

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01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 1: UM with partners UM and how do we make sure

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01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 1: that we're always prepared to pivot? And you know, we

1775
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: don't get too we don't fall in love too much

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01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:40,560
Speaker 1: with any one idea or any one project that we

1777
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 1: can't you know, take the blinders off. So I think

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01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 1: the future of the business is that being open minded,

1779
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 1: being curious, being flexible UM and always leading with UM.

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01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 1: How do we help push culture in the right direction?

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01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 1: Awesome guys, UM, I do BI monthly. I do it

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Speaker 1: A ninety thousand fan club newsletter goes out twice a month. Um,

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Speaker 1: I love to put the true Voice app description banner

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Speaker 1: in there, if you don't mind. I have also have

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Speaker 1: a platform called HBCU Awards. I'd like to drop that

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01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:18,920
Speaker 1: banner there because I'm about authenticity, about organically telling the

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Speaker 1: story and true voice. I downloaded it. I have a daughter,

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Speaker 1: she's twenty four years old. She's graduating from college, trying

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01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 1: to find her voice, and any platform that allows her

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01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: to feel comfortable and communicating and seeing people like her

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01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 1: and comfortably communicating those values. It's important to me and

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01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 1: I just wanted to offer that. Uh Ron will uh live.

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01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: I think she set up this interview. If you get

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Speaker 1: that banner to me, I appreciate dropping in there. And again,

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01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:49,000
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. Man. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time. I know you're busy, fellas. I know you're

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Speaker 1: busy fellas. Thank you for your time. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: your time, many, thank you, thank you for having us.

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Speaker 1: It's great to see you, to see you still being

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Speaker 1: great at what you're great at. So whatever you call

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Speaker 1: will be there. I appreciate it. Well man, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the family, brother welcome. Appreciate all right, y'all be safe man.

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Speaker 1: The next guest, she's she's laying you can't see, but

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01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 1: she's like very relaxed. Uh who is an eighteen year

1830
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 1: veteran and stand up comedies that started doing standard back

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Speaker 1: in ninety two, Death Comedy Jam b G Comedy Views.

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Speaker 1: So she's talking to a I would like to say,

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Speaker 1: a guy who knows a little thing to do, but

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Speaker 1: look at I couldn't do it. Michelle, No strangers, Netflix subscribers,

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Speaker 1: the Netflix films Someone Great, Always Be My Being, Always

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Speaker 1: Be My Maybe, and Netflix series Or Do All Tales

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Speaker 1: of the City, and continued appearances, including the hosting the

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Speaker 1: Netflix reality competition series The Circle, which is renewed for

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Speaker 1: a second season. She's talented and she's beautiful, and she's

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Speaker 1: starting her new Netflix stand up comedy special. Michelle Buto.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Otavia Beutopia. Dad are you are accounting. You

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Speaker 1: listed all the things like I gotta start bringing W

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Speaker 1: nine to W tense is interview. Well, you know when

1844
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 1: you're busy and you're talented, like you just got renewed

1845
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: your a BT plus show got renewed. Correct, Yes, now

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01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 1: I saw the special first. It was first of all,

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01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 1: you know what they do with Netflix? Uh, they sent

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Speaker 1: me an account. I put my patchword. It was on Saturday,

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01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 1: and I was in my bed and I started watching

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01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 1: and someone when people start making me laugh, I have

1851
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 1: to sit up. I'll sit up. And you made me

1852
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 1: sit up, and then you made me stand up Michelle

1853
01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 1: because I was laughing, and so so first of all,

1854
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: let me let me lay it out. Everybody know about Michelle.

1855
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 1: See when when you're really talented comic and she knows this,

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01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 1: you hit terms hit you. If you said to a

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01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,880
Speaker 1: normal street person, they might be offended. They be offended

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01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:17,560
Speaker 1: by but stuff like you silly, you're stupid, you're you crazy.

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01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:21,679
Speaker 1: You ought to control your food. See if a statup comic,

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01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 1: who's a real standup comic. Here's those famous they know

1861
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 1: they kicking, But you're funny, you ought to control You're crazy?

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01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. I really really do, and

1863
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,799
Speaker 1: honestly like, and you know this better than like anybody,

1864
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 1: especially since you've been in the game for so long.

1865
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: There's always this thing where people don't think women are funny.

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01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 1: It's just like okay, and it's sort of like what

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01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 1: I was growing up, and I was the only black

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01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 1: kid in um a few of the schools I went to.

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01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 1: My dad was like, you have to be the best

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01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:58,560
Speaker 1: because you're gonna stand out whether you want it or not.

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01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 1: And so start stand up in two thousand one. For

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Speaker 1: the first five or six years, everywhere I went, I

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01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 1: was like the only female on a show, and it's

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01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 1: just like, you have to be the best. And so

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01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: I remember Will sylvinsa hilariousation American comedian in New York,

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01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 1: was like, you know, it doesn't matter what spot you

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Speaker 1: get on the show. A lot of people like the

1878
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 1: third spot the force by everyone has their favorite to

1879
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Speaker 1: go first. He's like, doesn't matter, take any spot and

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Speaker 1: make it hard for someone to follow you. So I

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01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 1: was like, bet, and those are the lessons that I

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01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 1: think we need as comedians or anybody. Like walking into

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01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 1: a room or like a zoom meeting, or like pitch

1884
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 1: and stuff. It's like the question isn't how do I

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01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 1: become popular? How do I get more followers? How do

1886
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 1: I make money? It's like, if you are talented, the

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01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:49,640
Speaker 1: money will follow. Well, you know agree, because in this

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01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 1: business we can't get caught up in the slot in

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01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 1: the show. Well, first of all, if you can't handle

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01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 1: the slot, that slot when we your yeah, because everybody

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01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 1: in the stand a comedy game is gunning for the

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01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 1: funny person. And then you're an attractive woman, Michelle so

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01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 1: and I can say this a lot of times people

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01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 1: will be kind of condescending. Oh he's just getting because

1895
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 1: she's cute, or she last because she's a woman. So

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01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 1: how did you overcome those negatives? Well that's the thing too,

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01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:23,680
Speaker 1: write like I worked all the circuits. I worked, um,

1898
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Speaker 1: you know, the clubs with like my wife and kids,

1899
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 1: sitcom suit, I did the Chilling circuit, I did the

1900
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 1: gay clubs, and everyone's just like it's a woman, or

1901
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 1: well she's like what she gotta say about this experience?

1902
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Or she cute? How funny can she be? And that's

1903
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 1: the thing that going by what my dad said, you know,

1904
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 1: he also said, never worked for a thank you, So

1905
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:49,680
Speaker 1: I said, okay, I'm not gonna work for a thank you.

1906
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,840
Speaker 1: I'm just to leava you're welcome, and so all that

1907
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 1: should decided. It doesn't matter how you look, it's it's

1908
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: what is inside. And so I know that I have

1909
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: a story in my heart that you won't enjoy, either

1910
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 1: you're on board or or not. So yeah, I mean,

1911
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 1: I just want to make it. I just want to

1912
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 1: make it so hard. I just want to tickle people.

1913
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 1: Like you know how you always focus on the one

1914
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,679
Speaker 1: person that's not laughing. I'm like, I'm here for that person,

1915
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't focus on that idiot.

1916
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 1: I really don't. You're not gonna bring down my vibe

1917
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 1: because but you're right, you can understand the comment is

1918
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 1: interesting because you can control the side of the room,

1919
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 1: you can full the middle, and it's beautiful when you

1920
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 1: control the entire room. Yes and so, And the goal

1921
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 1: is really the control in any percent of the room,

1922
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 1: because you're not gonna make everybody laugh. That's just life.

1923
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 1: You don't know what's wrong with that person. They might

1924
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 1: be having a bad day, robed car might not start.

1925
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 1: They know when they go outside. Yeah, yea, you never know.

1926
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 1: And that's really important listen to. That we all have

1927
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 1: to know is that you never know what someone's going through.

1928
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what happened with Chadwick. I'm just

1929
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 1: like you guys. We have to be nicer to each

1930
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 1: other on the internet. Don't come for someone's looks. You

1931
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:05,880
Speaker 1: do not know what we are going through. So that's

1932
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 1: what I really try to hopefully I did with the

1933
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,720
Speaker 1: Special two was yeah, it could be funny, Yeah I

1934
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 1: got stories. Yeah I'm going through ship. But at the

1935
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 1: end of the day, we have to be kind to

1936
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 1: each other. Otherwise it's all for not well. I agree,

1937
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,560
Speaker 1: And she's saying Chadwick Boseman, that's who she's referencing, and

1938
01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 1: just in somebody's under a rock. Don't know who who

1939
01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:28,759
Speaker 1: you're talking about, but a rock fell on their head. Okay,

1940
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:31,840
Speaker 1: now let's say let's talk about your standard special. There's

1941
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:37,559
Speaker 1: on Netflix, uh start September twenty night. UM. Why, First

1942
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 1: of all, one of the Pikes, one of my all

1943
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 1: time favorite people. She's one of the EPs on her

1944
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 1: production company. Tell us about that. Yes, So Wanda owns

1945
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:49,719
Speaker 1: Push the Productions, UM, and she's partners with Paige Horowitz,

1946
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 1: who was an amazing producer who did um last Comic

1947
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:55,679
Speaker 1: Standing all the years she did. Tiffany has his special

1948
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,680
Speaker 1: fortune Feamsters, and so they're just like a dynamic do

1949
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 1: of just female empowerment who have been in the game

1950
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 1: long enough to know how to set you up. Um well.

1951
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 1: And you know, I've already been a fan, such a

1952
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 1: fan of Wanda for so long because not only is

1953
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:18,799
Speaker 1: she funny, she's so smart, she's so intelligent, she's so thoughtful.

1954
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 1: So those are the people I want to work with.

1955
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 1: And I felt like I was in a really good company,

1956
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:26,679
Speaker 1: which is great because an hour you are leaving yourself

1957
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 1: vulnerable to a lot of things and sometimes overwhelming, much

1958
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,920
Speaker 1: like buying your first car, getting married, people sometimes praying

1959
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 1: your vulnerabilities, and just like, you should do this because

1960
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people do this. You should do that.

1961
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 1: You should get this venue because this is what they do.

1962
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 1: And it's like, no, man, these two women were like,

1963
01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 1: what do you want? What? How are we going to

1964
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 1: showcase your personality? What is a night out for you?

1965
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 1: And it's really nice working with people who understand you

1966
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 1: and celebrate you, not tolerate you. And that's important that

1967
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 1: you say that. I wanted to talk about the specially

1968
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 1: a little bit more detailed because of your use your

1969
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 1: ability to wait for the moment, await, to allow that

1970
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 1: moment to build. You know, the value of your facial expressions,

1971
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 1: the look, the cutting of the eye, that the sneaky grin,

1972
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:20,720
Speaker 1: you know, which makes you wonderful actress too. I can't act.

1973
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 1: That's why that's a blessing, as a blessing about that

1974
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 1: ability to wait for the moment. Man, I think that

1975
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,600
Speaker 1: just comes with time. You know, you don't know that.

1976
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 1: You don't know you can do that until you've tested

1977
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 1: and tried, test and try. You could do it in

1978
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 1: front of your first gig for two thousand, you could

1979
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:45,640
Speaker 1: do it at that bar show for ten people. You know.

1980
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 1: I think comedy especially, you know, we get stuck in

1981
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 1: the script and it's just like if there's a side

1982
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 1: of you that wants to color outside the box, trust it.

1983
01:51:57,240 --> 01:51:59,719
Speaker 1: It's not gonna work the first time. But nobody plays

1984
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,200
Speaker 1: show pan the first time they played piano. You gotta

1985
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 1: keep away and figure it out. So I feel like

1986
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 1: that definitely comes with time. And also, you know, comedy,

1987
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: being a woman in her forties, like all this stuff

1988
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 1: is like I am tired of trying to fit in

1989
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:18,440
Speaker 1: someone else's world, Like, come to mind, this is my world, Utopia.

1990
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:21,720
Speaker 1: You want to celebrate great, you don't, There's something else

1991
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 1: for you on Netflix. There's a lot of ship Go

1992
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 1: watch the Traveler Show. Welcome to Potopia. I can I

1993
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: can only follow that time. What you just say? Give

1994
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:33,360
Speaker 1: me a wrap up here, and I want to wrap

1995
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 1: up on a hot note with you. Welcome to Patopia.

1996
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 1: September twenty night, Netflix strowing the incredible Michelle. Michelle, I'm

1997
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 1: gonna tell you when they when they told me that

1998
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 1: you had a comedy special, I went, who When I said,

1999
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:49,200
Speaker 1: not a negative? I didn't know you did stand up? Yeah,

2000
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So so I went, who

2001
01:52:52,200 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: are you talking about? You know? First last first? So

2002
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: with success can kind of like high what got you there? Yeah?

2003
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 1: It's crazy and it's crazy. Also what people know you for?

2004
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 1: What they don't? Right? Right? And so to see you

2005
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 1: doing stand up and I won't give anybody any secret. Way,

2006
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 1: please watch the opening, Please watch them. But I say, stupid, silly, goofy, goofy, goofy,

2007
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 1: goofy and silly the same thing. So she double five,

2008
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:33,679
Speaker 1: double five, double five. But it's a great special, Michelle.

2009
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:36,600
Speaker 1: I want to just thank you, welcome to allowing me

2010
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 1: to see you as a stand up being a guy.

2011
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 1: You know, I've done def jam BT, I've done all

2012
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 1: the comedy special I walked away, and I've had a

2013
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 1: successful careers and producer, writer and manager. And to see

2014
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:49,679
Speaker 1: a fresh face like yours come on a comedy scene.

2015
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:52,920
Speaker 1: I've been fortunate to interview my man George Lopez when

2016
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 1: his special air on Netflix. And is a great run

2017
01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 1: of new, fresh female talent, tasing yourself in this pandemic

2018
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: year of one of them. Congratulations, thank you for Shanna.

2019
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:08,920
Speaker 1: Was so nice to meet you. I hope to see

2020
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 1: you again. You a zoomer in person with a mask

2021
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 1: who knows when you come down. Make sure you people

2022
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 1: let me know. Okay, I got a big, more beautiful office.

2023
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 1: Love to bring you by. We're talking live in my studio. Perfect.

2024
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 1: Don't love it so much. Love you be strong, Thank

2025
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:23,719
Speaker 1: you brother. Bye,