WEBVTT - Selfish or selfless selfie?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren Zema coming to you from an

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<v Speaker 1>undisclosed location for a very well, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very important reason. This week we.

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<v Speaker 2>Are taking our annual Chris Harrison Birthday trip. And we

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<v Speaker 2>I say annual trip because we kind of do a

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<v Speaker 2>trip for your birthday every year. And also it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just a day, it's a week. Which look, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>mad at it because one thing I've learned in dating you,

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<v Speaker 2>babe is Chris Harrison is from a family that really

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<v Speaker 2>celebrates birthdays, and I didn't. I mean, my family celebrated

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<v Speaker 2>my birthday, but growing up, my birthday was very close

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<v Speaker 2>to Thanksgiving, so it was kind of like still is

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, have I had one take?

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so it was like, oh, Lauren, everybody's already together.

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<v Speaker 3>We had turkey and here's a cake for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's you know, obviously, you know our daughter's birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor is December twenty first, Christmas. We have a rule.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to separate. You can't do oh this is

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<v Speaker 1>your birthday, Christmas present, your turkey birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't work, sir, Christmas present.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he was always wonderful. To have a July

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<v Speaker 1>birthday Me and Mick Jagger, who I'm BFFs with, both

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<v Speaker 1>on the twenty sixth, and it's exactly half the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, happy birthday, Chris Harrison July twenty sixth, and we

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<v Speaker 2>do a full birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Week before that though, we had a great event at

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<v Speaker 1>our house. As people probably know, both our kids go

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<v Speaker 1>to TCU. We have a senior and now a sophomore,

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<v Speaker 1>which is hard to believe, but we were asked by

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<v Speaker 1>the folks at TCU if we would host the local

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<v Speaker 1>Austin Welcome to TCU for all the incoming freshmen, and

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<v Speaker 1>so all the kids from around the Greater Austin round

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Bernie area came to our house for a little

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<v Speaker 1>mixer and it was really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we had sixty five seventy people at my house

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<v Speaker 2>our house.

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<v Speaker 3>Was I overwhelmed, No, not at all? Was it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything was great. My mom came into help, which was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're so good with my mom because you are

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<v Speaker 2>like when my mom's great at parties, but she's very

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<v Speaker 2>the captain of the ship. And I got to give

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Harrison credit. You are so good at just being

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<v Speaker 2>first mate. You let her tell you what to do,

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<v Speaker 2>You let her organize an order, and even if you

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<v Speaker 2>know an ideas maybe not great, you kind of just

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<v Speaker 2>let it ride until she realizes it herself. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a lesson that comes with maturity. Correct me

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm wrong, tell me if you were like that

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<v Speaker 2>years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's there is a learned skill to

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<v Speaker 1>take second chair, even when you think, say it's your

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<v Speaker 1>house and you know you want it to be your

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<v Speaker 1>domain or whatever, learning that this is how she speaks

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<v Speaker 1>her love. This is her love language, taking care of us, cooking,

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<v Speaker 1>creating things and being in the kitchen and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so instead of, you know, maybe when you're younger,

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<v Speaker 1>taking a fence to how people act at your house.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it's difficult when family comes into town

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<v Speaker 1>because they're in your space and all that, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>just see try and take a step back. What are

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<v Speaker 1>they really saying? And your mom kind of like my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>that's their love language. And so it means a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to me that she loves you so much that she

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to come into town. But it definitely is something

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<v Speaker 1>that I had to learn from experience, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're younger, you're like, oh, my mom or my

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<v Speaker 1>dad or my brother drives me crazy because.

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying to control me always in my business. But

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<v Speaker 2>you're right if you can see what's really motivating them,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not being motivated by control, they're being motivated

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<v Speaker 2>by a need to be needed.

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<v Speaker 1>By wanting to find space in your life. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>they really don't have me. I can already see it

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<v Speaker 1>with my kids. I don't fill the same space that

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<v Speaker 1>I used to because they don't need me like that

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<v Speaker 1>because I did my job. So they grow, they become independent,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you long for that, so you have to

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<v Speaker 1>find different ways to get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you think about the longevity of that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we always want people to bounce back quickly, but the

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<v Speaker 2>reality is you've been a parent for eighteen year years

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden they had to college

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<v Speaker 2>and you're supposed to not need to be needed anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was great though, because everyone was so lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, neither of us nor my mom went to TCU,

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<v Speaker 2>but my mom even said, Wow, all those TCU parents

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<v Speaker 2>and kids were so great. The kids were awesome, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was really wonderful to see. Actually, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>other parents said to me, well, you know what's great

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<v Speaker 2>about this this kids can connect on social media now,

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<v Speaker 2>but events like this actually kind of make them hang

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<v Speaker 2>out in person. And it's so cool that the school

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<v Speaker 2>does different gathering so the kids can get to know

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<v Speaker 2>each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was awesome and it was good to see

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<v Speaker 1>the parents actually nervous. The parents are just as nervous

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<v Speaker 1>as the kids. But two hours after this party.

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<v Speaker 2>Ended, listen, we raged and I had Afternoon Suarez.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a wardrobe change, we went from purple to pink,

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<v Speaker 1>and we went to Barbie.

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<v Speaker 3>We should have started this podcast with Hi Barbie.

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<v Speaker 1>I ken, wait, no, that was me. We did a

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<v Speaker 1>pod about this last week about Oppenheimer coming out, the

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<v Speaker 1>three hour Christopher Nolan thriller and then the Greta Gerwig

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<v Speaker 1>comedy very much the Barbie movie heartfelt comedy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of made the proclamation that a rising tide will

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<v Speaker 1>lift all boats, and that is what happened at the

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<v Speaker 1>box office. They both were massive successes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am so happy to see it because I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'd actually pulled back a little bit on reading

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<v Speaker 2>the headlines because when this whole Oppenheimer Barbie thing first happened.

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<v Speaker 2>The headlines were about the movies being pitted against each other,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's this big history of Christopher Nolan always opens

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<v Speaker 2>his movies on the same weekend in July. But for Oppenheimer,

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<v Speaker 2>he switched studios and his old studios, Warner Brothers decides

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to open Barbie on Chris Nolan's weekend, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was sort of perceived as this slight and it

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<v Speaker 2>became a competitive thing, which movie is going to do better?

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<v Speaker 3>What was so great?

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if I sound crazy, but can

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<v Speaker 2>we all take a lesson from Barbenheimer when these two

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<v Speaker 2>movies came together, when the narrative became about, oh do

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<v Speaker 2>the double features. See Oppenheimer in the morning, Barbie in

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<v Speaker 2>the afternoon, We're black and pink.

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<v Speaker 3>They both did great.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I actually read that Oppenheimer benefited a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>because some Barbie showings were sold out.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I think because people had heard about Barbenheimer and all

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<v Speaker 2>this press and they thought, oh, well, let's just go

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<v Speaker 2>see Oppenheimer and.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I think a lot of people, like myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to see both. I have not seen Oppenheimer

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<v Speaker 1>yet we didn't have time because we left on this trip,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will see both. We just chose because our

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<v Speaker 1>daughter was in town. We saw Barbie first.

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<v Speaker 3>Hsen, Babe, you were surrounded by the ladies, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to give I had such a good dyey. I

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<v Speaker 1>went with four ladies and in four Barbies and four barbies,

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<v Speaker 1>and we all got dressed up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, Chris wore pink. He had a pink shirt that

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<v Speaker 3>had roses on it. So it was very apropos that,

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<v Speaker 3>very on brand.

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<v Speaker 2>I was seeing on on social media that some people,

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<v Speaker 2>like some younger people were saying, wow, so cool to

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<v Speaker 2>have like two big movies in one weekend, and then older.

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<v Speaker 3>People are like, this is how it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope it was a resurgence to the eventizing

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<v Speaker 2>of movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Like our theater was packed packed, and people.

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<v Speaker 2>Were wearing pink, and people used to like I remember

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<v Speaker 2>when the Star Wars prequels came out, people dressed up

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<v Speaker 2>like they were wearing.

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<v Speaker 3>They brought lightsabers to the theater.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though it didn't do as good, but people

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<v Speaker 1>were there for Barbie, people were there for Oppenheimer. People

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<v Speaker 1>were still going to mission impossible. So it was packed

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<v Speaker 1>all around, which was great. It was just nice to

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<v Speaker 1>have so many great fun movies out. You had choices again.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was nice to do something together and to

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<v Speaker 2>realize that by these two movies kind of playing into

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<v Speaker 2>each other. And look, here's how Hollywood's gonna work. Studios

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<v Speaker 2>and pr people are going to try to recreate the

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<v Speaker 2>Barbenheimer effect in the marketing moment. And you can't like,

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<v Speaker 2>this was a viral happenstance thing, but what it was

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<v Speaker 2>born out of. This happenstance was born out of Tom Cruise,

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<v Speaker 2>Margot Robbie and other and the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Involved in these movies.

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<v Speaker 2>They would post on social media, Hey, I just bought

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<v Speaker 2>my ticket for Oppenheimer. I bought my ticket for Barbie.

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<v Speaker 2>And they literally did that because they want the box office.

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<v Speaker 3>To do well.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it is this good overall lesson of when

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<v Speaker 2>you operate from a place of supporting.

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<v Speaker 3>Each other, everybody does better.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's it's a good thing to note

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<v Speaker 2>in a very what continues to be a very tumultuous

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<v Speaker 2>time in our country.

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<v Speaker 1>I read something today that was really interesting that things

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<v Speaker 1>change with a surprising success. More so than they do

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<v Speaker 1>a big flop. And what I mean by that is

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<v Speaker 1>in the industry, if there's a big flop, it'll change

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<v Speaker 1>the industry, like, Okay, no more of those action movies,

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<v Speaker 1>or no more of those thrilled whatever and so. But

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<v Speaker 1>this person was saying that a surprise success is even

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<v Speaker 1>more of a game changer. And what that means, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>is that. And I'm not poo pooing on these because

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<v Speaker 1>I do like them, but sequels too long running movies

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<v Speaker 1>like a Mission Impossible, like Indiana Jones, the Marvel, DC,

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<v Speaker 1>all the superhero movies, that is what everyone's been leaning

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<v Speaker 1>into for god ten years now.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're burnt out. I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I love those movies to Iron Man

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the Avengers movies and all that. They're great,

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<v Speaker 2>they're funny, they're action packed. But I think we're burnt out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've reached the tipping point.

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<v Speaker 1>No longer do I feel like if I miss this

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel movie or DC movie, whatever, I'm really going to

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<v Speaker 1>be lost.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I feel like I can't watch all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't keep up with it because they also started

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<v Speaker 2>doing you've got to see the TV shows that are

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<v Speaker 2>on the streamers to know what's happening in the next movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't consume all this. We've reached burnout, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think the quality of the movies is getting worse. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest. I like taichoidt, I like Chris Hemsworth,

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<v Speaker 2>but I saw the most recent thour it wasn't as

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<v Speaker 2>good as the ones in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a movie and again I don't I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to dog it, but there's a movie coming out that

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<v Speaker 1>we saw Blue Beetle. We saw the ads for it,

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer, and I'm like, oh man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just I'm like, I've never heard of this superhero

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<v Speaker 2>we're at this point, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Spider Man. It's the story of Spider Man, except

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<v Speaker 1>it's a beatle.

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<v Speaker 2>I do hope that what studios take away from this

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<v Speaker 2>is that original, interesting movies do well. Because let's point

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<v Speaker 2>something out here. Now that the numbers are in, everybody's saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is for Greta Gerwig, for example, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest opening ever for a female director, or for Chris Nolan,

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<v Speaker 2>this is his biggest opening ever. This is the reality

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<v Speaker 2>the box office amidst all the talk about how movies

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<v Speaker 2>are dying just powered to it's I'm quoting Variety here,

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<v Speaker 2>fourth biggest weekend in history, all of history.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was the foorth essentially two and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>well four decent films on the radar right now if

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<v Speaker 1>you include Mission Impossible and Sound of Freedom along with

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<v Speaker 1>Oppenheimer and Barbie.

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<v Speaker 2>But these weren't superhero movies. These weren't franchise movies. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw a quote from somebody at Warner Brothers who said,

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<v Speaker 2>this shows the power of Barbie. Yes, but please don't

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<v Speaker 2>start inundating us with movies based on every single toy

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<v Speaker 2>we ever grew up with. I think what it shows

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<v Speaker 2>is that people want to get back to that time

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<v Speaker 2>where movies touch them, where they laughed. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>cried in Barbie. So many people say they cried at

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<v Speaker 2>the end where they walked away thinking about the movie

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<v Speaker 2>I miss. You know, I think about movies I grew

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<v Speaker 2>up with. I still quote those movies, movies of the

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<v Speaker 2>past decade or so. I can't think of many that

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<v Speaker 2>I walk around quoting or rewatching all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know there is politics involved in everything we

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<v Speaker 1>do these days, and there are opinions that controversy. It's just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with Oppenheimer, there's plenty of it. With Barbie,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw plenty of it. I'll tell you I went.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only was I not offended, I just I had

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<v Speaker 1>a great time. I laughed. Look, not everything hit the mark,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is her take on it. And I loved

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<v Speaker 1>historically how they brought in kind of the old canceled

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<v Speaker 1>or discontinued Barbie's and they threw some historical moments from

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<v Speaker 1>mattel In. I liked it. I'm sorry, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say the same thing probably about Oppenheimer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, for anybody who was saying I will give

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion. I think there were some people who said

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<v Speaker 2>Barbie is anti man, you know, and then that's played

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<v Speaker 2>up in the media because they need clickbait headlines. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you see it, no, I don't think it's anti

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<v Speaker 2>man at all. In fact, what it is is anti

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<v Speaker 2>putting people in a box.

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<v Speaker 3>It says that we are more than our gender whoever

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<v Speaker 3>we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We are human and we should know who we are

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<v Speaker 2>and what we want to make in this world. And

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<v Speaker 2>that shouldn't be defined by labels. It should be defined

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<v Speaker 2>by you as a human being and we all have

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<v Speaker 2>that same human experience.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what I took away from the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, and I went into it going, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>look out for this because I had heard about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only was I not offended, I was I laughed,

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<v Speaker 1>I was impressed. I enjoyed it. I love sharing it

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<v Speaker 1>with my daughter, who came out with her own opinions

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<v Speaker 1>of it and took a lot of different things away

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<v Speaker 1>from it, and it was a great family experience. Enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, go to the theater.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. With that, I will say bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken, Bye Barbie. Oh before you go. We do have

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<v Speaker 1>this very interesting story that we're going to continue on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the break. Miranda Lambert was hosting

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<v Speaker 1>a concert. She was giving a concert in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop the show in the middle of it to really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of verbally undress these women who are taking selfies

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of her show. Now to paint a picture,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is a podcast and we're not watching, we're listening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not your typical concert where everybody was standing in

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<v Speaker 1>a stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>Vegas has these intimate shows. You're seated at tables, old school, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were standing up and it was like five

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<v Speaker 1>or six of them and this thing. At first there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of applause and everybody was in for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the tables and the tide turned against Miranda Lambert.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where things are going to get interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the break, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Adella, one of the ladies who was there,

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<v Speaker 1>the lady who posted the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and this has come up again because now people

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<v Speaker 2>have started making t shirts about the moment. Because Miranda's

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<v Speaker 2>tour is continuing, so taking pictures at a concerts, the

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<v Speaker 2>debate continues.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so Miranda got kind of you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was very interesting, and I want to talk to Adela

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<v Speaker 1>because she was so she took the pictures, she posted

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<v Speaker 1>these pictures. I know she has her opinions, but Llo,

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<v Speaker 1>cool Jay has come out and he's like, Miranda, get

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<v Speaker 1>over it. Parker McCollum, up and coming superstar and Country

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<v Speaker 1>has defended Miranda Lambert and said, no, no, these ladies

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<v Speaker 1>were up, they had the flash going, they were doing

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<v Speaker 1>a full on photo shoots. There's a lot of opinions

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<v Speaker 1>that go both ways. But I want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>the source, and we have chased her down. She's going

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<v Speaker 1>to join us right after this. We talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>right before for the break, the big story that came

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<v Speaker 1>out of Las Vegas and the Miranda Lambert concert and

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<v Speaker 1>the women that were taking a selfie? Was it good?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it bad? Are you for it? Are you against it?

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<v Speaker 1>This has really become a thing. So I had our

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<v Speaker 1>incredible producer Kendall, let's go to the source. She chased

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<v Speaker 1>down Adela, who joins us now from Las Vegas, who

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<v Speaker 1>was the woman really at the center of this whole controversy. Adela,

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, thank you for being here. I truly

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you taking the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>What has this last week been like for you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been very busy. I had to be highly organized

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<v Speaker 4>managing personal life and some interviews here and.

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<v Speaker 1>There, crazy people chasing you out of the woodwork to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about this moment that happened at Las Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>and I explained just full disclosure before the break before

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<v Speaker 1>I got to you. This isn't your typical We're at

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<v Speaker 1>a concert, at a bar, or at a stadium where

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's up screaming. You're sitting at tables typically right the

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail tables.

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<v Speaker 4>No, the theater at Planet Hollywood holds. I actually had

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<v Speaker 4>to look up the capacity. It holds seven thousand people.

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<v Speaker 4>And first you have the pet which is right around

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<v Speaker 4>the stage. Then you have two rows of VIP benches

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<v Speaker 4>with tables, and those rows are more like cocktail tables.

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<v Speaker 4>They also give you complimentary champagne. And behind the two

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<v Speaker 4>rows of VIP then it's the main seating, which is

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<v Speaker 4>more like a regular concerts.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually hosted Miss America there for many years. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember that theater very well, but it looked like you

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<v Speaker 1>guys were in that VIP area.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, kudos by the way to forget those tickets and

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom service.

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<v Speaker 4>Very lucky. I believe I bought them right when the

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<v Speaker 4>concert dates were announced, and as soon as they went

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<v Speaker 4>on sale, I was on ticket Master buying the tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're so you're a Miranda Lambert fan.

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<v Speaker 4>I love for music. Also, my husband and I like

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<v Speaker 4>to go to almost virtually every concert. We can get

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<v Speaker 4>tickets too, because Las Vegas is the entertainment capital of

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<v Speaker 4>the world, so we enjoy going out on weekends.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're at the Miranda Lambert concert, you have the

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<v Speaker 1>VIP ticket, You're sitting there presumably your husband's there is

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<v Speaker 1>that who was taking the picture?

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<v Speaker 4>No, my husband happened to be out of town, so

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<v Speaker 4>I decided to invite some of my girlfriends and making

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<v Speaker 4>a girls' night.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's girls night, and that's who we see in

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<v Speaker 1>the picture with you that was put up on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and then taking around the world. Really, so tell me

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<v Speaker 1>from your perspective what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>The concert start is the typical Saturday night fun Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 4>The energy is starting to get really high in the theater.

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<v Speaker 4>People all throughout the theater are standing up or sometimes dancing,

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<v Speaker 4>taking pictures and videos, and me and my other friends

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<v Speaker 4>are doing the exact same thing everybody else is doing everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>We are having a great time. And suddenly, at some

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<v Speaker 4>point during the concert, as we are trying to take

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<v Speaker 4>a group picture and people are right next to us,

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<v Speaker 4>you're taking a selfie video. But suddenly the concert stops.

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<v Speaker 4>Me and my friends are being called out and we

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<v Speaker 4>are being told to set down.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so instead of a picture, what you thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to take a picture, the person pressed

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<v Speaker 1>video so instantly the light came on. Is that why

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<v Speaker 1>the light was on?

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<v Speaker 4>I believe we took the picture with a friend's phone,

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<v Speaker 4>and I believe she turned the flash on because the

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<v Speaker 4>concert started. We were trying to take a group picture

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<v Speaker 4>of all us ladies, but the lighting was not very good,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think she realized we had to use the

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<v Speaker 4>flash to take a good group picture.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're taking a picture, I think you, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>at four or five other girlfriends. The flash is on,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, when did you realize Miranda

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<v Speaker 1>Lambert is on stage talking to you.

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<v Speaker 4>As we are turning and we're just about to sit down,

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<v Speaker 4>we realized, oh, the concert has stopped, and this is

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<v Speaker 4>because me and my friends did something.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was that moment of realization?

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<v Speaker 4>Like for you, anybody will get ready in the face.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to have very tough skin not to feel embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 4>And after a couple of seconds passed, I was trying

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<v Speaker 4>to clear my mind, and I thought, the last time

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<v Speaker 4>I was told to sit down is when I was

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<v Speaker 4>in school and the teacher told me to sit down

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<v Speaker 4>because me and my friends did something that annoyed her.

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<v Speaker 1>What was and I don't even know if you remember

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<v Speaker 1>this because it probably happened so quick, But what do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember as the reaction from the crowd when she

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<v Speaker 1>was saying that where because I've heard and seen different

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<v Speaker 1>videos and some people were applauding. Some people didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>it and left. So, in your mind, what was the

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<v Speaker 1>reaction when Miranda Lambert told you to sit down?

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<v Speaker 4>I think because everything happened pretty quickly, and the energy

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<v Speaker 4>was so high in the theater leading to that moment,

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<v Speaker 4>and people were just cheering. I think people were cheering

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<v Speaker 4>just because Miranda Lambert was speaking. They're just trying to

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<v Speaker 4>have a good time. Some people were realizing what's happening,

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<v Speaker 4>and some people left after. Obviously, every the concert did stop.

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<v Speaker 4>I did try to look a little bit around everybody

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<v Speaker 4>that sat down. Everybody did stop taking pictures. I felt

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<v Speaker 4>that we were just singled out. I felt like she

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<v Speaker 4>was just bothered by everybody taking pictures and videos. Just

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't understand why we were singled out.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she overreact in your opinion? Was it a bit much?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I've been I've been to so many concerts in

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<v Speaker 4>that very theater, and I mean there's thousands and thousands

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<v Speaker 4>of pictures and videos taken. I have never seen a

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<v Speaker 4>reaction like that. Ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's because of your location of how

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<v Speaker 1>close you all were to the stage. You were in

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<v Speaker 1>her eyesight, I guess, and the flash was going off.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that was it?

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<v Speaker 4>I guess because we were writing the center and writing

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<v Speaker 4>the front was easier to make an example out of us.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be my guess. I don't know exactly what

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<v Speaker 4>she was thinking, and I know there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>talk about the flash. I have tried really hard for

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<v Speaker 4>the last week to see if there's truly no flash

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<v Speaker 4>palace in that theater. I've been to concerts before and

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<v Speaker 4>I've never heard the no flash policy being announced. I

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<v Speaker 4>also have tickets in the next couple of weeks to

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<v Speaker 4>Kelly Clarkson in that very theater, and I looked on

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<v Speaker 4>my tickets to see does he say no flash? And

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't found anywhere it says no flash. I even

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<v Speaker 4>googled the name of the theater no flash policy. I

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't find it anywhere. If there is, I have not

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<v Speaker 4>seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you, as you look back on it, do you

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<v Speaker 1>regret it at all? Is there anything you would have

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<v Speaker 1>changed from your perspective?

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<v Speaker 4>If I was to regret something, everybody else in that

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<v Speaker 4>venue would have to regret taking pictures and videos, so

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<v Speaker 4>I don't see what there's to regret.

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<v Speaker 1>This was my take when I saw it. When I

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<v Speaker 1>saw Miranda Lambert speak out and there was instant applause,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you said, when you were at a concert

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<v Speaker 1>and the performer starts speaking, everyone just kind of starts yelling.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was emboldened by that and like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep going. And I think she probably, if

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<v Speaker 1>she would admit it now, may have gone a little

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<v Speaker 1>further than she even anticipated because she thought she was

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<v Speaker 1>riding this kind of wave of energy. But then people

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<v Speaker 1>started kind of turning on her, and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thing. And people left the show. I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>video of people leaving. I think your friends may have

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<v Speaker 1>even left, Is that right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, two of my friends got up and left. Two

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<v Speaker 4>of my other friends were nicer. They said we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to the ladies room. But me and one other friend

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<v Speaker 4>we stayed until the end. But the concert was about

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<v Speaker 4>to be over anyway, very.

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<v Speaker 1>You know one of the I think it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been great if Miranda had somehow sent security out to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys after the show and said, hey, stick around.

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<v Speaker 1>Miranda wanted to say hi to you, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think like, look, I know she did what

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<v Speaker 1>she felt was right, but I think it just would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a good pro move afterwards and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you ladies, stick around, let's take a picture. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it would have fixed it would have solved everything.

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<v Speaker 4>It would have been nice. But I have learned that

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<v Speaker 4>she has done this in the past. She got annoyed

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<v Speaker 4>by audience members ticking pictures. So I think just something

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<v Speaker 4>in her she just doesn't like pictures and videos taken

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<v Speaker 4>during her concert. And that's okay. She doesn't like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Bruno Marsh doesn't like it. He made me and my

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<v Speaker 4>husband lack our phones in pouches. He makes everyone in

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<v Speaker 4>the audience lacks their phone in pouches, and the audience complies,

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<v Speaker 4>you're okay with that. As I said that before, nobody

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<v Speaker 4>goes to a concert wanting to annoy the performer. We

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<v Speaker 4>just want to have a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I did see one guy, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you are just as surprised as everybody of how this

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<v Speaker 1>is taken on a life of its own. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing how much this has really circled the globe

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<v Speaker 1>and become a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, And I ask myself exactly why maybe because

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<v Speaker 4>there's this contrast between there's a celebrities performing on stage

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<v Speaker 4>and unfortunately fans through stuff at them. And then here's

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<v Speaker 4>the one instance when fans want to have a memory

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<v Speaker 4>of this great concert. We have such amazing seats and

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<v Speaker 4>we want to have in the background in between us.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a once in a lifetime opportunity to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And she gets upset by that when it's absolutely a

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<v Speaker 4>great compliment that we want to have a picture with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw someone, you know, some guy, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. Some guy goes I put it on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I flew to Vegas just to take this

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<v Speaker 1>selfie at a Randa Lambert concert. And I'm like, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>come now, you just have these people copycat. They're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to go to her into stuff, and it's become a

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. And so hopefully that part will stop for

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<v Speaker 1>you as you go to many more concerts and you

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<v Speaker 1>and your husband go to shows and stuff, will it

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<v Speaker 1>change you at all? Like WI, will you be more cautious?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you think twice before taking pictures from now on? No?

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<v Speaker 4>Again, I'm only what everybody else does in the whole audience,

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<v Speaker 4>taking I'll give you an example. One of the best

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<v Speaker 4>concerts I went to in that theater is the Backstreet

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<v Speaker 4>Boys concert and I believe in twenty nineteen, and I

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<v Speaker 4>have videos on my phone from that concert, and I

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<v Speaker 4>still watch those videos and I still look at those

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<v Speaker 4>pictures because they are such great memories.

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<v Speaker 1>If you could say something to Miranda Lambert, if she

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to this now, what would you want to

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<v Speaker 1>say to her?

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<v Speaker 4>She just has to decide if she likes pictures, if

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<v Speaker 4>she likes videos, or maybe she doesn't like pictures and

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<v Speaker 4>videos during one song. She just has to figure out

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<v Speaker 4>what's the policy she wants for her concerts and let

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<v Speaker 4>her fans know and we will comply.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't say it better myself, Adela, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh thank you, having a great day.

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<v Speaker 1>And enjoy all the shows coming up in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. You know one of the women

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<v Speaker 1>that were at the center of this Miranda Lambert controversy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was interesting to hear her take. She stands

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<v Speaker 1>behind everything she did and would do it again. Be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to know where you fall in this is Miranda

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<v Speaker 1>Lambert in the right here to demand that respect at

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<v Speaker 1>her shows and to say what she said and do

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<v Speaker 1>what she did in that moment and call out fans

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<v Speaker 1>or was she out of line? And were these people

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<v Speaker 1>well within their right to sit there in those VIP seats,

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<v Speaker 1>get that bottle service and take the pictures. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the interesting thing about this and why it has created

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<v Speaker 1>such controversy is everybody has a very strong opinion, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not all the same. Some people are team Miranda,

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<v Speaker 1>some are team Adela and her crew. So let us

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<v Speaker 1>know where you land. Leave us a little comment and

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it very much. It has been a very busy week,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of great things. The theater is hopping with

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<v Speaker 1>the Barbenheimer weekend, the Miranda Lambert controversy, and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>we had a chance to talk about all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, as always for listening. We will

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