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Speaker 1: here with you. Welcome to the Freedom Hunt. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Hillary Obama and top people in in Obama's administration, and

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Speaker 1: there has been a series of actions at the very

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Speaker 1: most senior levels of the dj that benefited Hillary, benefit

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Speaker 1: of Democrats, and hurt Trump. You put it all together

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Speaker 1: and you've got quite a stinky stew. This is not good, um,

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Speaker 1: And I mean Andy McCarthy earlier today when he saw

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Speaker 1: that text from Peters Struck. Remember that the text was,

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Speaker 1: I want to believe the path you throughout for consideration

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Speaker 1: is in Andy's office that there's no way he, meaning

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Speaker 1: Trump gets elected. But I'm afraid we can't take that risk.

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Speaker 1: It's like an insurance policy the unlikely event you die

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Speaker 1: before your forty How could they stop Trump from being president?

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Speaker 1: To stop his presidency, what were they talking about. The

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Speaker 1: only thing that anybody could honestly put forward and think

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Speaker 1: about would be, Oh, we're gonna create this whole Russia

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Speaker 1: collusion thing. That's it. I don't know what else it

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Speaker 1: could be. And Andy McCarthy responding to this text earlier today,

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Speaker 1: I wrote, this is not political banter, clearly indicates professional

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Speaker 1: duties infected by political viewpoints, which is disqualifying. I was

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Speaker 1: going on the publish accounts I had seeing, which didn't

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Speaker 1: include this one. Should follow my own advice to wait

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Speaker 1: for all the facts Andy when this stuff first came out,

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Speaker 1: when the texts last night, Fox said they had like

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Speaker 1: ten thousand text messages from the d o J people

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Speaker 1: involved here, and he was like, look, you're a lot

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Speaker 1: of opinions. You're allowed to say, you know, Trump is

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Speaker 1: Trump is a jerk, and still work at the FBI

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Speaker 1: and work on sensitive political investigations. You're allowed to You're

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Speaker 1: allowed to do that. But saying that you think that

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Speaker 1: there's something we have to do to stop Trump from

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Speaker 1: being president, and you're talking about very senior FBI people

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Speaker 1: and you're involved in an investigation that theoretically could stop

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Speaker 1: Trump for being president, I think we all know that

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Speaker 1: we're in some pretty sketchy territory with that, right. I

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Speaker 1: think we all see why that's a problem. Um. I

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Speaker 1: also would uh quote my friend Jesse Kelly here from Twitter.

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Speaker 1: He put out earlier today, if a single person at

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Speaker 1: the FBI was attempting to take down Barack Obama's presidency.

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Speaker 1: It would take a nuclear explosion for the media to

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Speaker 1: talk about anything else for a month. Absolutely true, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: irrefutably true. Any any honest observer of the world we

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Speaker 1: live in would be like, yep, that is a fact.

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Speaker 1: And then a few other things to add into this,

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Speaker 1: or just one more thought before we're going to break

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Speaker 1: and we will switch up. I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about Roy Moore and and the where we go

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Speaker 1: from here? Right? We should we should think about that

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Speaker 1: at GOP where we go from here? But I think

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Speaker 1: it's so interesting that today and on this whole issue

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Speaker 1: of the FBI and Muller and all of this, the

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Speaker 1: questioning of a law enforcement body is all of us

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Speaker 1: is all of a sudden unpatriotic and wrong and bad

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Speaker 1: and and it's uh degrading our institutions. The Democrats will say,

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Speaker 1: I should just note that under the Obama presidency, the media,

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Speaker 1: the same media that says we shouldn't be questioning the

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Speaker 1: FBI's impartiality on this specific issue. Remember, not question the

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Speaker 1: FBI when it comes to all the other federal crimes

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Speaker 1: that they're enforcing. Right, that's not what this is about.

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Speaker 1: This is about this one issue, but it's one that

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Speaker 1: has tremendous importance, the Russia collusion investigation. But usually the

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Speaker 1: media is willing to question and even undermine, and I

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Speaker 1: would say defame law enforcement, right, police officers, systematic racism,

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Speaker 1: hands up, don't shoot all that. But now you'll see CNN, MSNBC,

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Speaker 1: all these other places that the FBI is sacro sanct. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the FBI couldn't have couldn't be doing anything bad like that.

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Speaker 1: We think the FBI is the greatest, just like the

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Speaker 1: games they played when it came to Comey specifically, Oh,

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Speaker 1: Comey is the most honorable public servant in America because

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Speaker 1: he exonerated Hillary. Oh, but he reopened the investigation. Call me,

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Speaker 1: here's the devil, Here's sex foot seven, Lucifer. It was

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Speaker 1: just all about politics for them, that's all it was.

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Speaker 1: And that's all this really comes down to as well.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see. Rosenstein doesn't want Mueller, doesn't want Muller

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Speaker 1: to get fired. Mr Mueller immediately concluded to m destructure

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Speaker 1: no longer and participate in the investigation, and he was

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Speaker 1: removed from the team the same day. Did Mr Mulan

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Speaker 1: take appropriate action in this case. Yes, he did. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: In testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, you said that

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Speaker 1: you would only fire Special Council Mueller for good cause

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Speaker 1: and that you had not seen any yet. Several months

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Speaker 1: have passed since then. Have you seen good courts to

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Speaker 1: fire Special Council Muller? He says, don't fire Muller. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's right, but not longer. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: get fired right now, so we will see. I think

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Speaker 1: he's wrong, actually, but it's a gamble. Remember, if Mueller

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Speaker 1: comes up with no charges against Trump, her nebor's top people,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna look mighty sketchy for the Democrats. But we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens. All we gotta talk. We gotta talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit of Alabama race after math after last night.

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Speaker 1: Moore did not win, He has not conceded. What does

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Speaker 1: this mean? What do we take away from the GLP

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Speaker 1: will get into that, and I don't know. I might

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Speaker 1: just bring up Arianna Huffingtons so I can. I can

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Speaker 1: have some fun here as well, because she was on

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Speaker 1: TV today. That's always entertaining. We'll be right back to team,

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Speaker 1: stay with me. Welcome back, Team, tyrone. A couple of things.

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Speaker 1: One what happened with amar Rossa today? So the claim

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Speaker 1: is that she was she resigned, but apparently there are

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Speaker 1: a numerous stories we resigned from what like? For folks

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Speaker 1: who don't know who is Amar Rosa, what's I actually

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Speaker 1: don't know much about her. I just know she was

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Speaker 1: on the Apprentice. She was on season one of the

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Speaker 1: Apprentice and she didn't win, but she became tight with

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Speaker 1: President Trump during that time, and she went back I

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Speaker 1: think for like season seven and was on again. And

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Speaker 1: then she was literally brought on to be in charge

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Speaker 1: of Black Outreach for the President. That was her official title,

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Speaker 1: and she was supposed to help President Trump, who has

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Speaker 1: had some trouble since he's been in office with the

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Speaker 1: black community, bridge that gap and also help other Republicans

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Speaker 1: in national races. And yesterday and some stuff happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well and some things happened to that today they I mean,

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Speaker 1: people say that the Secret Service wasn't involved. Now there saying,

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Speaker 1: but there are rumors that after she was fired, she

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Speaker 1: tried to get back into building. You know how they

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Speaker 1: escort you out when it's over. She decided, according to rumors,

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Speaker 1: that she was going to tell them when it was over. Ah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like she was on the Apprentice again. It was getting

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Speaker 1: one last, one last moment of of our one last

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of family. I suppose. Yes. Now some people

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Speaker 1: think this also still ms from and this is true.

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Speaker 1: She recently was married and brought in all thirty seven

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Speaker 1: people from her wedding party to take pictures in the

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Speaker 1: White House, and that was frowned upon. M Hm, thirty

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Speaker 1: seven people. That's a lot of people. That's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. Now, the White House is not that big

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Speaker 1: by the way. People. I mean, I've spent some time

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Speaker 1: in the White House, and uh, it's it's surprisingly you know,

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Speaker 1: in something like the Oval Office, I think people feel

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Speaker 1: like it's this cavernous that's just an office that's like

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Speaker 1: a circle. It's something that big. So But going back

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Speaker 1: to her original purpose of being hired because of the Apprentice,

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Speaker 1: and I can say this as a black person who

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Speaker 1: knows a lot of black people. She was one of

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Speaker 1: the least popular black people with black people in all

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Speaker 1: of America before she took this position. Why was she

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Speaker 1: hired in the first place. The reason being, on that

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Speaker 1: season one of The Apprentice there was down to the

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Speaker 1: final two, and it was a very big show at

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Speaker 1: the time for people maybe not remember Apprentice was the

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Speaker 1: number one show in all in the world at the time.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's watching. She backstabbed Kwamie, the Black finalist. I did

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Speaker 1: not know any backstaffed Black community turned on her years ago,

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Speaker 1: so the thought that she could even begin to help

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Speaker 1: with black outreach was a mistake. Oh gosh, okay, one,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that was her role in the White House.

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Speaker 1: I knew she was on The Apprentice, and I was

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Speaker 1: just seeing these stories today and the way they were

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Speaker 1: writing it and made it sound like the Secret Service

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Speaker 1: was like grabbing her legs while she was holding on

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Speaker 1: to one of the you know, one of the pillars

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Speaker 1: of the White House. It wouldn't let go. And it

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Speaker 1: seems like that it may not have been Secret Service.

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Speaker 1: It might have been a friend or somebody else, another staffer,

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Speaker 1: but it does appear that she literally wanted to give

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Speaker 1: whoever let her go a couple more words before she left.

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Speaker 1: But officially she resigned effectively sometime next month, even though

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Speaker 1: she's no longer allowed in the building. Okay, there's that

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Speaker 1: I should know. It's a little, a little unusual, a

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Speaker 1: few things here, Tyronne, as we get to the bottom

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Speaker 1: this mystery, I asked Tyrone, there was some there's some scandal.

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Speaker 1: Not it's not even a scandal. But there's something going

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Speaker 1: around right now about Anderson Cooper tweeting something about Trump.

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Speaker 1: He didn't tweet it. Somebody else did, whether it was

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Speaker 1: his assistant or somebody who found the tweet in the

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Speaker 1: or found found the tweet, found the phone in the

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Speaker 1: gym and tweeted it out or whatever. You know. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't Cooper, so it doesn't really matter who else tweeted it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm what we can dispense with that one. But

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Speaker 1: on onto the back to the Amarossa story. Here, Uh,

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Speaker 1: unusual for a white House person to be escorted out.

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Speaker 1: Actually that's not normal. Yeah, I heard that from all

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Speaker 1: the stories that I read. What's weird is it's real

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Speaker 1: journalist writing about it and then also saying but trying

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Speaker 1: not to fully say what they think. I noticed the

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Speaker 1: way they're writing there, holding back. Yeah, because I think

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Speaker 1: this is a peculiar something's going on. There's something, like

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Speaker 1: I said about stinking fish on the table. Something smells

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Speaker 1: funky here, a little strange. Yeah, and given her give

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Speaker 1: in her past, which you've now told me more about.

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Speaker 1: Would not be surprising if she would out some historyonics. Look, hey,

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Speaker 1: White House, a lot of things going on. I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to for those of you who like to follow

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Speaker 1: those things and uh, what's going on in the world

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Speaker 1: of of palace intrigue at the White House? We had

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Speaker 1: that story for you. But I'm else all right, Doug

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Speaker 1: Jones beat Roy Moore last night. Got some after action

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Speaker 1: analysis for you on that. We're also going to talk

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Speaker 1: a bit of taxes. I know I'll get excited. Oh hello,

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Speaker 1: let's get out our calculators and talk about talks rights.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna do that. It's important. In the third hour,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talking about movies and Team Buck speaks and

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna rock out and have some fun. So, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you about Burrs. Stay with me. We'll definitely win. No,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Roy has a very good

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Speaker 1: chance of not winning in the general election. No, it's

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Speaker 1: all about the general. Don't forget. We don't stop here there.

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Speaker 1: You had President Trump. Hey, all right, we're just keeping

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Speaker 1: it real. President Trump. I know that he did the

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Speaker 1: robot calls and support because he wanted the seat in

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Speaker 1: the Senate. But that was back on September twenty and

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Speaker 1: Trump was saying, strange Luther Stranger win Roy Moore. He

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Speaker 1: might he might lose, he might lose. And as we know,

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Speaker 1: sure enough, vote talies came in last night around ten

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Speaker 1: or eleven Eastern forget exactly when, and Roy Moore lost.

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Speaker 1: He lost by what about twenty thousand votes? Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Chand what's the um? What was the final talent is

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Speaker 1: like six hundred something thousand and six hundred seventy one

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Speaker 1: thousand and change for six fifty sift chance and how

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Speaker 1: many writings? Uh? So the writings were the difference, everybody.

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Speaker 1: The writings were the difference. Now, let's get into some

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Speaker 1: of the uh, some of the after action here. Um

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Speaker 1: not not really. I don't think there's all that much

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Speaker 1: to take from it. And I think that enough people,

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Speaker 1: and enough Alabama's were clearly uncomfortable with Roy Moore for

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Speaker 1: a variety of reasons. I think most likely because of

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Speaker 1: the allegations against him. Right, that's why you had a

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Speaker 1: a Senate seat that I think nine percent of voters

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Speaker 1: went for Jeff Sessions in Alabama. I'll repeat that everybody.

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Speaker 1: Nine three percent of voters went for Jeff Sessions the

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Speaker 1: last time he was up for election. Those are like

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Speaker 1: the numbers that you expect in like uh, Turkmenistan or

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Speaker 1: Uzbekistan in elections, whether they're like he is, we have

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Speaker 1: a grid the democracy, but always go forward the same,

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Speaker 1: you know, um, you know the there are elections in

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Speaker 1: some of those countries of the stands, but Kazakhstan, you know,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. But when you get to vote totals like seven,

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Speaker 1: I always want to know to who's the two percent

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Speaker 1: that didn't vote for the autocrat that is having the

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Speaker 1: phony elections, right? I guess they figure it's like if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna cheat on an exam, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: get a hundred if you're a C minus student. If

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Speaker 1: if you managed to steal the exam the night before,

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Speaker 1: you know, the smart cheaters and I do not advocate

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Speaker 1: cheating on exams. Everybody, but the smart cheaters get like

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Speaker 1: a ninety five, you know, or like a night you know,

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Speaker 1: So it looks like you pulled it out the last minute, uh,

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Speaker 1: not that you were, um copying every answer and memorized it. Right.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's the way they That's the way dictators

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Speaker 1: do it, right. You gotta get like um anyway, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was what uh Sessions got. Plus and Trump predicted

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Speaker 1: that Roy Moore might lose. And look, let's be honest. Here,

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Speaker 1: here's where we are on this, right, here's the here's

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Speaker 1: the good and the bad of it. Uh, the good

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Speaker 1: the bad of it is that one you get. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's start the fact that you gotta democratic one. Oh my, folks,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I think that I have been

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Speaker 1: waiting all my life and now I just don't know

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Speaker 1: what the held us said. I am truly truly overwhelmed.

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Speaker 1: But you know, folks, and you have all heard me

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Speaker 1: say this at one point or another in this campaign.

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Speaker 1: I have always believed that the people of Alabama had

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Speaker 1: more in common than the divide us. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, this, this entire race has been about

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Speaker 1: dignity and respect. So that was Doug Jones alloy one

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Speaker 1: given us, given a speech, and uh, you know that's

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Speaker 1: his that's his prerogative. Or I should note that President

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Speaker 1: Trump tweeted out something very gracious about Doug jones victory

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Speaker 1: as well as Jones even said the following It was

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Speaker 1: a very gracious call. I very much appreciated it. He

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Speaker 1: congratulated me on the race that we we won. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He congratulated me and my staff on the way that

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Speaker 1: in the manner in which we handled his campaign and

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Speaker 1: went forward. Uh. And we talked about finding that common

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Speaker 1: ground to work together. And he invited me over to

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Speaker 1: the White House to to visit as as soon as

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Speaker 1: I get up there. So it was a it's a

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Speaker 1: very nice phone call, very pleasant phone call, and I

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Speaker 1: appreciated him very much reaching out to President Trump being

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Speaker 1: presidential as they like to say, right this is I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Trump gets enough credit for when he

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Speaker 1: does things that the well the never Trump Republicans as

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Speaker 1: well as the Democrats and the Democrat media are always saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't do enough of this. So he made a

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Speaker 1: nice phone call. He tweeted out something about good victory

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Speaker 1: for Doug Jones and how there should be you know,

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Speaker 1: you need to have better Republican candidates. Okay, So, as

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Speaker 1: I was saying, on the bad side of things, you've

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Speaker 1: got a Democrat who won and I'm a I'm a

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Speaker 1: registered Republican. I wonder, now, by the way, you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people on the right,

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Speaker 1: And for a long time I've been saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm a registered Conservative, and I'm like, in the post

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Speaker 1: Tea Party era, do we do we all still play

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Speaker 1: that whole Republicans and Conservatives are a different, you know,

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Speaker 1: different thing. I don't know. I wonder how much of

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Speaker 1: that has changed now. It's oh buckets so different. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go back, listen to some Reagan speeches. He'd be like,

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Speaker 1: don't don't get caught up in that Republican Party is

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Speaker 1: about conservatism, or it's supposed to be, at least that's

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Speaker 1: supposed to be the ideology of Republican Party. Anyway, back

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Speaker 1: to uh what it means now? And uh, pardon me

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Speaker 1: for a bit of a hard turn on a very

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Speaker 1: serious note about Doug Jones. It's, I mean, he's a

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Speaker 1: pro abortion zelad. I think you could even say extremist

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Speaker 1: all nine months over pregnancy. Doug Jones totally in line

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Speaker 1: with nay Rowl And uh, what's the planned parenthood? And

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Speaker 1: and any effort that the Senate may try may have

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Speaker 1: tried to make in the next couple of years to

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Speaker 1: do something about our just outrageous, inhumane and immoral abortion

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Speaker 1: laws in this country. That that's a big problem that

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Speaker 1: Doug Jones vote, because that's why he is not going

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Speaker 1: to bend on that. That is that's one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest things that the Democrat left likes about Doug Jones.

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Speaker 1: And that's a that's a real issue for those of

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Speaker 1: whether whether you like more as a candidate or not.

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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of you do and a

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Speaker 1: lot of you don't. But apart from that, it's a

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Speaker 1: problem that Doug Jones is a vote for abortion and

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Speaker 1: abortion for all nine months of a pregnancy. So that's

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Speaker 1: a loss. That's a that's a problem. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know what else the I will will the the loss

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Speaker 1: of this vote, which is why Trump wanted more to win.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I think we all saw that there

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Speaker 1: would be so I'm gonna get into this too. The

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Speaker 1: the the upside of all this is is a look

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Speaker 1: at the downside of what would have It would have

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Speaker 1: meant to have more in in office and and a

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Speaker 1: representative of the Republican Party. And I will get there

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Speaker 1: in a second. But the loss of one vote in

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Speaker 1: the Senate may not mean very much, or it could

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Speaker 1: mean a whole heck of a lot. We just don't know.

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Speaker 1: You will recall, in the period of Obamacare's passage, as

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Speaker 1: I have told you, the railroading of Ted Stevens, the

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Speaker 1: improper and unjust prosecution of Alaskan Senator Ted Stevens, led

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Speaker 1: to the loss of that Senate seat. And without the

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Speaker 1: loss of that Senate seat to the Democrats, you would

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Speaker 1: not have had Obamacare. Remember, they had sixty to get

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Speaker 1: Obamacare through as as the we can need Republicans love

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Speaker 1: to remind us now when they can't seem to replace

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Speaker 1: and repeal Obamacare. Um, I had that backwards, but you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So one vote can make a

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Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot of difference in all this,

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Speaker 1: and we will just have to see if this vote

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Speaker 1: matters or not in that respect. And that's the So

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Speaker 1: that's the biggest concern, that was Trump's biggest concern with it.

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Speaker 1: And from a GOP perspective, I understand that that is

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Speaker 1: a a loss and uh and on the on the

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Speaker 1: issue of life, and that's a you know, that's I

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Speaker 1: hope it doesn't come down to one vote whether or

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Speaker 1: not they can because they're not going to be able

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Speaker 1: to do sweeping reform on on abortion and on pro

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Speaker 1: life issues under the Trump presidency. I don't see it happening.

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Speaker 1: But anything that they could do that would limit it.

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Speaker 1: It just saving lives. How many? How many lives could

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Speaker 1: they save? You know, whatever they could do to curtail

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Speaker 1: it would be in the right direction. It wouldn't be enough,

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Speaker 1: but at least it'll be better than what we have.

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Speaker 1: But all right now, on the other side of it,

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Speaker 1: and I think it is, it is quite clear. And

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Speaker 1: for for many of you, especially, I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of our Elevama listeners, you're like, well, you know, who

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Speaker 1: cares the media? The media sucks and they're a bunch

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Speaker 1: of liars, and yeah, yeah, I agree, and I know,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, Buck, you're in the media. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I'm a conservative in the media, which is like being

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Speaker 1: I think something being on some tiny little island, uh,

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Speaker 1: separated from the rest the rest of the media. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The big issue would have been that whether you think

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Speaker 1: that the allegations against Roy Moore were true or not,

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Speaker 1: every single Republican and yes, every Republican commentator was going

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Speaker 1: to be saddled with defending everything Roy Moore did and said.

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Speaker 1: For the foreseeable future, which that alone would be problematic

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Speaker 1: because you know, riding riding in on the horse may

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Speaker 1: well obviously didn't play that well on him. May play

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Speaker 1: well in Alabama, but the rest of the country, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of people said he didn't ride

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Speaker 1: the horse very well. I will just know they're saying

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Speaker 1: that he's not really, not really a horseman, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: tyrone's give me the nod. Yeah. And apparently his wife is, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: that's nice. Um. I would just say though that the

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Speaker 1: this was a reminder that America today, if we have

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Speaker 1: gone beyond someone calls someone else a racist, and the

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Speaker 1: person who is accused of it, if there's it is ruined,

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Speaker 1: even without any underlying anything. That there was a time

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Speaker 1: when if people called you a racist publicly, you were

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Speaker 1: in a whole lot of trouble. Now it doesn't have

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Speaker 1: quite the same It's still I mean, if there's any

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Speaker 1: grounds for it, its career ending, but it doesn't have

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Speaker 1: quite the same just you're done as soon as the

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Speaker 1: accusation is made. Pedophilia, if someone calls you a pedophile publicly, uh,

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Speaker 1: it is it is a a stain on one's reputation

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Speaker 1: that is impossible to get out. And the media was

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Speaker 1: running with Roy More accused, accused, pedophile, accused, pedophiles. All

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Speaker 1: you were gonna hear about Roy Moore as long as

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Speaker 1: he was in office, and they were gonna force one

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Speaker 1: Republican after another to get up there on TV and

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Speaker 1: defend Roy Moore on the when it came to those

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Speaker 1: allegations or whatever. And here's the thing, and Alabama, the

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Speaker 1: people of Alabama decided and we now obviously respect the

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Speaker 1: respect their judgment. In the verdict, I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of Alabama's voter for Roy Moore. Maybe it's because they

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Speaker 1: wanted that Senate seat in GOP hands. Maybe it's because

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Speaker 1: I thought it was all a lie against More. Maybe

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Speaker 1: a combination of both. But at the national level, with

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Speaker 1: the mid terms at stake, especially in tight races, we

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Speaker 1: saw twenty thousand was the determining factor here in a

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Speaker 1: statewide Senate race in Alabama, when when you're dealing with that,

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Speaker 1: having to have Republicans go on what what? Let me

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Speaker 1: just put it this way. You know, if you had

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Speaker 1: a tight Senate race in I don't know, I'm just

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Speaker 1: picking states at random. If you are a tight Senate

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Speaker 1: race in uh Maine for example. You know, the Republican

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Speaker 1: GOP senator would go on media outlets and I promise

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Speaker 1: you there would be a question. You know, so you

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Speaker 1: know the me too movement and women are to be believed,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, you senator or or would be senator,

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Speaker 1: what are you think of the fact that you have

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Speaker 1: an accused pedophile in the GOP And it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: and this is on this is the way the game

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Speaker 1: is played. I'm just telling you it wouldn't matter what

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Speaker 1: the person said. All that matters is that they would

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Speaker 1: run under that GOP senator you know, question about accused pedophile,

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Speaker 1: accused pedophile. They just would use it as a It

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Speaker 1: would be a way to be smirch and staying all

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Speaker 1: GOP candidates in the mid terms. And no matter how

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Speaker 1: true or untrue you think it is, when you've got

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Speaker 1: elections that are being determined by twenty votes, you flash

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Speaker 1: GOP and pedophile on the screen and send it and

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Speaker 1: that may be all that it takes. So that's as

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Speaker 1: much as it's disappointing to lose the seat, you're not

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Speaker 1: dealing with the other side of it. I just want

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Speaker 1: to tell you that I'm just keeping it real, all right?

851
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: Where to come back talk about what it's not technically

852
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: I guess it is technically over, but it's kind of

853
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: not technically over. Tyrono and I gonna chat about this

854
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: the other side. Stay with me. I really want to

855
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: thank you for coming to night and realize when the

856
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: vote is this close, that it's not over and we

857
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: still got to go by the rules about this recount

858
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: provision and Secretary of State has explained it to us,

859
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: and we're expecting that the press will go up there

860
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: and talk to them to find out what the situation is.

861
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: But we also know that God is always in control.

862
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: You know. The part of the thing, part of the

863
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: problem with this campaign is we've been painted in an

864
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: unfavorable and un faithful light. That was Roy Moore last night,

865
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 1: making it sounds like it's not all over, Tyrone. What's

866
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: the deal here? It's it's over, okay, for for numerous reasons.

867
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: Um One, the recount that he talked about, by the

868
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: rules only occurs if the election is within half of

869
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: one cent. Even then he would most likely lose because

870
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: the Attorney General for Alabama who admitted that he voted

871
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: for Roy Moore, so he was not in any way

872
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: biased against him. Said the last time, seven years ago,

873
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: almost to the day they did, they had a special

874
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: election for governor. They ran through and they did a

875
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: recount and out of all the statewide votes which was

876
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: as many as this, three votes got changed. Three. Alabama

877
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: has their voter I d think tight. There's no there's

878
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: no calls for corruption or any fake voting or anything

879
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: like that. It's just over. And even with if every

880
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: single of the absentee and overseas and military ballast came

881
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: in four Roy Moore, Remember, Alabama is not the biggest

882
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: state in the Union. It's not California, it's not Texas,

883
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 1: he still wouldn't be within that point five percent. It's

884
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: just over al right, everybody. So there you have it.

885
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: It sounds like even though Roy Moore has not yet conceded, uh,

886
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: he is not right. He is not yet called over

887
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: to say that it's it's all and it is in

888
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: fact all done. I should Did you see this by

889
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: the way, that they're not something else you want to do. Yes. Also,

890
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: there was a slyther of hope left open by the

891
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: state Attorney general yesterday, saying that if Roy Moore's campaign

892
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: was to pay for a recount he could get it.

893
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: The actual state statue says that's actually not even true.

894
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: There is no call for a recount with a margin

895
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: this squad. Even if Roy Moore was to come with

896
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: a satchel of a billion dollars, there will be no recount.

897
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: All right, everybody, there, you have it. There's not gonna

898
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: be a recount. Now, a couple other things I want

899
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: to throw into the mix here before we talk talk taxes.

900
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: In just a few minutes here, we'll have Sarah Westwood

901
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: joining from d C. Tell us, what is the Congress

902
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: actually gonna do something? Oh my gosh, crazy, I know,

903
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: actually gonna cat what would you say you do here? Congress?

904
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: They'll be like tax reform. Okay, not exactly, uh the

905
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: speech from St. Crispin's Day and Henry the Fifth, but

906
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, a tax reform all right? Um, morning to

907
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: note the tyro, don't you saw? Couple of things we

908
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: want to throw in here. First of all, uh the

909
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: report Manu Raju is a reporter at CNN, just shared

910
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: as we're on air that Frankin has told Al Franken,

911
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: Senator told him no final decision yet on timing of

912
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: his resignation from Senate. We don't yet know the timing.

913
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: We don't have an exact date. That's what Frankin is saying. Uh,

914
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm still very convinced he's gonna go. But I know

915
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: there's some people who are like, maybe he doesn't go.

916
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: I think they've named his replacement. They're moving on without him.

917
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: He'll go willingly by four, he's going, Yeah, he's gotta go.

918
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: This is all part of the This was all part

919
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: of the plan was to have franken by Frankin. Was

920
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: their moment of see will clean house and then look

921
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: at You could argue, I mean, no one can prove

922
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: or disprove this, but you can certainly make an argument

923
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: that for remember, we're talking about twenty thousand voters that

924
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: made the difference in Alabama. That's the size of like,

925
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: you know, Madison Square Garden. Here in New York City,

926
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: it's not that big. You could maybe argue that they decide,

927
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, they some of those folks said, you know what,

928
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: I can't I can't pull the lever for more, especially

929
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: because Frankin stepped down, and I don't want to feel

930
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: hypocritical about it. Now. I don't know, I'm not basically

931
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: on anything other than just the possibility, but Democrats certainly

932
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: are capitalizing on that a lot. And one more thing

933
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: to follow up with my child with Tyland from before,

934
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Secret Service has officially tweeted out that I'm a Rosa

935
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: was not physically removed by the Secret Service from the

936
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: White House grounds. But there is still a report out

937
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: there that I have not yet seen debunked that she

938
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: may have had some words with General Kelly. Oh Man,

939
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: just just leave right, just Rosa. Come on, She's gonna

940
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: be on the on the like the seventy five dollar

941
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: speaking circuit, and she she's gonna be just fine. But

942
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: I can see that General Kelly. If there was somebody

943
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: who's gonna tell her that, uh, it's time to go

944
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 1: and that's the way it's gonna be, I would assume

945
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: it would probably be General Kelly. He's the only person

946
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: in the White House. But I think other than Ivanka

947
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: and Jared has no concern over his role, his future,

948
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: or anyone telling him really what to do. With the

949
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: exception of the President, I think he's the only one

950
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: who it's Kelly's way or the highway. Um, all right,

951
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk taxes, in just a moment here with

952
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: Sarah Westwood of Washington Examiner. Is the tax bill I'm

953
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: gonna get through a little bit of additional urgency here

954
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: because they got one less sentence seat if they don't

955
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: get it through by the end of the year. So

956
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: we shall see eight four four nine eight to five

957
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: eight four four nine buck, stay for the political analysis

958
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 1: or come for the God I can't even speaking on radio.

959
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: Come for the political analysis, Stay for Bucks special tricks

960
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: to make the perfect burger without a barbecue. That's at

961
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: the end of the show. Get excited. The incredible members

962
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: of the House and have been working so hard. We're

963
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: very very those to a historic legislative victory, the likes

964
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: of which rarely has his country's seen. I think I

965
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: can say Kevin and or in that we're getting very close.

966
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of the folks said, um,

967
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: we'd like to have here. We said, if you have

968
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: your choice, stay back and get it done right. They're

969
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: all working and negotiating some final points cause we're very

970
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: very close. President Trump held a very effective press conference

971
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: today in which he was making his last ditch pitch

972
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 1: for tax cuts to get through before Christmas. He had

973
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: some folks who came up to the podium and talked

974
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: about their own experience with this. But what is really

975
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: happening now in d C? Can they get to the

976
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: corporate rate cut of at a top individual rate of

977
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: thirty seven percent before we all decide to uh go

978
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: hang out over the holidays and Congress is no longer

979
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: in session. We got Sarah Westwood to lend some DC

980
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: inside the Beltway insight to us. Now she is the

981
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: White House correspondent for the Washington Examiner. Sarah lovely to

982
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: have you back. Hi, Thanks for having me. All Right,

983
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: so what's going on here? We heard Trump talking about it,

984
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: People are saying it's gonna happen, and now that they've

985
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: lost a Senate seat, looks like it better happened. What

986
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: can you tell us? Right? While before last night, Republicans

987
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: were facing a symbolic deadline of getting this done before Christmas.

988
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: It was something they imposed on themselves, but President Trump

989
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: had taken to calling a tax reform a Christmas president

990
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: for the American people, and so if they failed to

991
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: hit that self inclosed deadline, it was going to be

992
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: a symbolic failure. Even if down the line they did

993
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: get tax reform. But now they're up against a very

994
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: real procedural deadline. The fact that Doug Jones is expected

995
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: to be seated in early January means Republicans probably won't

996
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: have the votes to get this pass if they might

997
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: if Jones is in the Senate, but it makes it

998
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: that much trickier for Senate Majority Leader Rich mcconnells. So

999
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: it's why I think you'll see them really try to

1000
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: stick to the deadline that they imposed on themselves and

1001
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: passed it by early next Can you just tell us

1002
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: a bit about for for everybody listening, people care because

1003
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,479
Speaker 1: this is gonna matter to their bottom line. Everyone listening

1004
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: to the bottom line for their business or even maybe

1005
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: their individual rate and how they're going to be filing

1006
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: taxes in years to come. But what has to happen here?

1007
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: From a procedural perspective, it seems like reporting today was

1008
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: the House says yes, the Senate says yes, they've passed it.

1009
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: It's in conference. Trump is like, so what has to happen?

1010
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: While the confreys that Monday is a day to vote

1011
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: this bill out of conference, it then has to clear

1012
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 1: another vote, one in the House, and then a vote

1013
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: in the Senate. If they can agree on the one

1014
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: consensus version of the bill that emerged out of conference,

1015
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: then uh, it will go to President Trump's desk and

1016
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: presumably he'll sign it. So the real last hurdle, because

1017
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: we haven't heard a lot about much resistance within the House,

1018
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: so the last hurdle will really be getting this bill

1019
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: out of the Senate. And I think it's why you

1020
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: saw the bill end up looking more like the version

1021
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: that came out of the Senate than the version that

1022
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: came out of the House, because the numbers were always

1023
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: trickier and Paul Ryan had a little more of a

1024
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: cushion to play around with. We're speaking to Sarah Westwood,

1025
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,959
Speaker 1: who's the White House correspondent for the Washington Examiner. Sarah,

1026
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: are there any last minute snags that some people are

1027
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: worried might mess this whole thing up for Republicans? Well,

1028
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: there is some sphere that some of the Senate Republicans

1029
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: who just barely got on board UH to vote for

1030
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 1: the Senate version and send this thing to conference, might

1031
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: rethink support for the bill, particularly as more and more

1032
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: polling comes out that shows it's not necessarily the most

1033
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: popular poll Although if you talk to White House officials.

1034
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: They just suit the methodology and the polls that reveal

1035
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: low support for the tax for for bill. But either way,

1036
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: there's always a chance that seems the more moderate Republican

1037
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: senators like Susan Collins, even Bob Corker, who didn't vote

1038
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: for the version of the taxi for the first time around,

1039
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: well withhold their support. Remember, if three Republican senators do that,

1040
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: then it'll sink the bill. And so uh ch McConnell

1041
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: still has to keep this cocuts together in order to

1042
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: get the bill passed, and that there's no guarantee that

1043
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: every Republican will be satisfied with the products that comes

1044
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: out of conference. And whatever happened with state and local taxes,

1045
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: because that was initially a big concern for at least

1046
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: some Republicans in this And and my tyrone here in

1047
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: the Hudd, who lives in New Jersey is raising his

1048
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: hands as a as a homeowner, He's like, this is

1049
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem for me. Hey, I wish I

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Speaker 1: was a homeowner in Manhattan. I'd be letting my cigars

1051
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: with a hundred dollar bills anyway. But whatever happened to

1052
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: state in local taxes. While this was a pain point

1053
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: for a lot of Republicans, you're right in state's high

1054
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: tax states where they're constituents would be hit hardest. But

1055
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is that Republican couldn't make

1056
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: the math work without keeping state and local tax deductions

1057
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: in the bill. That's because in order to pass this

1058
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Speaker 1: using the procedure known as reconciliation, meaning you can pass

1059
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: it with a simple majority rather than having to hit

1060
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: that sixty vote threshold, this bill couldn't cost more than

1061
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Speaker 1: one point five trillion dollars, And without eliminating those state

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Speaker 1: and local tax deductions, you couldn't afford the cuts to

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Speaker 1: revenue that you're making in other areas. So this was

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Speaker 1: probably the biggest pay for in the entire bill, and

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Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons why even though it's controversial,

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Speaker 1: and even though there are a lot of lawmakers who

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Speaker 1: hate this provision, you haven't seen a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: talk serious talk about removing it because it would throw

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Speaker 1: off the entire operation. And Trump's speech today about taxes,

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Speaker 1: he said some things about being able to do it

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Speaker 1: on one piece of paper, he said all He also

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Speaker 1: made some statements about the I R s. Was that

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Speaker 1: just Trump selling big ideas about taxes or those You

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Speaker 1: know the thing about the I R S and the

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Speaker 1: one page individual returns, is that a part of this Well,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting because it tells the viewer sitting at how

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Speaker 1: this is when you can expect to start feeling benefits

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Speaker 1: of these tax cuts. Because we talk about it in

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Speaker 1: the abstracts, we don't know how long they will they

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Speaker 1: will take to take effects. Some of them might have

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Speaker 1: a delayed start of these provisions that the I R

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Speaker 1: S is certifying that within eight weeks or so of

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Speaker 1: the bill passing, Americans will start to feel the benefits

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Speaker 1: of these tax cuts. That may give lawmakers an extra

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Speaker 1: incentive to pass this because they know that Americans, by

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Speaker 1: the time the next election cycle rolls around in November,

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Speaker 1: will have had seven months of these lower tax rates

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Speaker 1: to contend with to get the economy time to start

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Speaker 1: the growth period the White House promises will get. So

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Speaker 1: let's just give this sort of tangible benefit that dangles

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Speaker 1: over lawmakers as they finally headed to the final stages

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Speaker 1: of this I mean, before we let you go, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: what are you what are you hearing from folks on

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Speaker 1: the hill? In d C in general, just just to

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Speaker 1: give us the atmospherics of the post Roy Moore election

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Speaker 1: vibe in in d C. I have some guesses, but

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Speaker 1: I wanted to hear it from you. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I've actually been surprised at the amount of relief I've

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Speaker 1: heard expressed from conservative Republicans, centrist Republicans, even some folks

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Speaker 1: closely alive with the White House, because everyone sort of

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Speaker 1: acknowledges that Roy Moore would have just been an ongoing

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Speaker 1: disaster for Republicans that would have lasted for years. Every

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Speaker 1: time he opened his mouth, he seems to create some

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Speaker 1: wonderful new controversy that lawmakers know they would have had

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Speaker 1: to answer for on a daily basis. And even though

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Speaker 1: it's rough for Republicans to lose, uh that one vote

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Speaker 1: in the Senate that Luther Strange provided them, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that any of them felt it was worth it

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Speaker 1: to just keep their already slim majority but have to

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Speaker 1: deal with someone who's radioactive is very Moore. Now they

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Speaker 1: don't have to contend with what committees to put him on,

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Speaker 1: the problem of maybe do you coastponter legislation with someone

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Speaker 1: that's been accused of child predation, so doubt they don't

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Speaker 1: have to deal with any of those problems. They disappeared

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Speaker 1: with Doug Jones victory and uh and I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of Republicans are breathing a side of relief. Roy

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Speaker 1: Moore loses. The people of Alabama have spoken, so we

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Speaker 1: can leave it all there. Uh, Sarah Westwood, everybody does

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Speaker 1: great work. Check out her latest Washington Examiner dot com. Sarah,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. And if we don't get a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk to you again, Mary Christmas and a

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Speaker 1: happy holidays, well you too, Thanks very much. A team,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna roll into a break here. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about some fascinating stuff that I'm

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Speaker 1: going to figure out in the break because i have

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Speaker 1: so much to talk to you about today that I'm

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Speaker 1: not even sure what's gonna make it to the what's

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Speaker 1: gonna make it on air versus the cutting room floor.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be a surprise. Stay with me. What it's amazing,

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Speaker 1: changed so much. I think I'm difficult mommies, So it's

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Speaker 1: not no, not just and you go home when you

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Speaker 1: are lasting with the Rabbit War and it's in the morning,

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Speaker 1: and you don't have no time for yoga or the

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Speaker 1: vegan meal or anything. Ariana Huffington's it's amazing that woman,

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Speaker 1: uh founded one of the biggest left wing websites around. Really,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of people have realized that it was a

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Speaker 1: castle built on sand or you know, it was the

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Speaker 1: Really they were putting a lot of money into the

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Speaker 1: Huffington Post now called huff Post to make it seem

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Speaker 1: like it was this bigger deal than it was, and

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it hasn't made a profit in at

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Speaker 1: all in recent years. Um, But I always thinking Ariana,

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01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: like she just whatever the subject is, she could go

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01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: on TV and all of a sudden and if you

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01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: go back, you'll see, I'm first of all, at one

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Speaker 1: point she was a Republican. But if you go back

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01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: and you see, you know, like psycle back hen Your's like,

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Speaker 1: you're no new Aftrophysicists really don't have to understand that

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01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: the outer boundary of the Virgo supercluster is hard to

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01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: see what the hubble telescope. You're like, wait, what what

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01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,479
Speaker 1: is you know? And then like fast forward two years,

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Speaker 1: she's like, really federated leads to drop because bernanci I

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01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: love his beard, but he's not understanding that the long time,

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Speaker 1: the interest rate, like it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: what the subject is. Ariana Hu will be on TV

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Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, tell us more Ariana. She's like, yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, like, if you really want to learn how

1158
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: to dunk, I suggest you work on calf strength and

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01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: a small twitch muscle fiber. Like it's if you have

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Speaker 1: do you test how my thesis I'm telling you a Huntington.

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Speaker 1: You go back and see her and she'll be like,

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01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, way in on on any number of things.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's really that's really pretty incredible. So m anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what I just I just fund her. I

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Speaker 1: just find her very music. I can't really get much

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Speaker 1: more beyond it than that. I think Journey is actually

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Speaker 1: optimized for hyper growth, hyper without the person of the

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01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: company of the company realization that we've had this year

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Speaker 1: that when everything is sacrificed at the altar of hyper growth,

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Speaker 1: in the end, business suffers because because happening humanity, health engagement,

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Speaker 1: and and also the sort of fulfillment of your employes

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Speaker 1: the work life balance. Okay, so let me So she's

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Speaker 1: she's got to reinvent that what life balance it sacrifice

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Speaker 1: for the hyper growth, and the company tried to grow

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Speaker 1: with the profit of the money. It's like, she's now

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Speaker 1: a I should know that she was for years the left.

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Speaker 1: She would be lecturing people on politics. Here she'd go

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Speaker 1: on the Bill Maher show and she's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Iraq War, really the counter insurgency strategy needs to

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Speaker 1: be adjusted for great understanding of the door kicker versus

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Speaker 1: intel collector. And she just whatever it was, man, she

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Speaker 1: was out there. But but now she's like a work

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Speaker 1: life balance guru and that's what she that's what she

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Speaker 1: talks about, and she writes books about it. And I

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01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,879
Speaker 1: just I she's she's an amazing story. You know, switches

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Speaker 1: her political affiliation, is the founder of this website and

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Speaker 1: and is also now work life balance person. But if

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Speaker 1: you go back, if you're curious, you can actually read

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Speaker 1: stories about what it was like to work for Ariana.

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Speaker 1: And I know some people who who did and wouldn't

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01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,520
Speaker 1: want to come forth publicly and talk about it. Um.

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01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: But the term tyrant was definitely used, Diva definitely used

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01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: so there was a lot of that too. UM. I

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Speaker 1: just think that it's funny that now she's the one

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Speaker 1: going now that her company was bought by what it

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Speaker 1: was initially brought by a O L and then a

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Speaker 1: O L bought by somebody else, whatever it was. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure she's made untold millions from that. She's

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Speaker 1: going around telling everybody to do mari yoka and more stretching.

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Speaker 1: You need to make sure you're getting all the macros

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Speaker 1: at the meals and the yoga and the social media

1202
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 1: is too much. I do agree, and this is actually

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Speaker 1: what made me think about this initially. I do agree

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Speaker 1: with Ariana that Uh. I agree that Baca Greece, now

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Speaker 1: this is crazy, Uh, that we were the whole social

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Speaker 1: media phenomenon is much more um is much more impactful

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Speaker 1: on our day to day lives. People always say in

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Speaker 1: tactle is not a word, but people pretend like it is,

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Speaker 1: so I'll use it to um, right. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: technically not a word, guys, right, but I mean like

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Speaker 1: everyone uses it. Right. It's also that people say that

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Speaker 1: optics you shouldn't say the optics of something, because technically

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Speaker 1: optics are actually like something you'd put in the sites

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Speaker 1: of a rifle, but people use it that way. Uh. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: social media activity is is taking up so much bandwidth

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Speaker 1: literally and figuratively in our day to day lives. For

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Speaker 1: a lot of you, I know, you're like Buck, I'm

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01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: not even on Like I don't use Twitter and I don't.

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01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: But for businesses now, and this is something about this

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Speaker 1: is somewhat what she was touching upon. There For businesses

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Speaker 1: as well, there is this tremendous push to get involved

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Speaker 1: in Facebook and to do much more on Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: that just means also that more of our consumption will

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Speaker 1: be coming that way. I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 1: Um there there is a company that on my Instagram

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Speaker 1: it keeps popping up and I'm and I don't need

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Speaker 1: any I've got plenty of sweatpants, you asked Ms Molly,

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Speaker 1: She'll be like, Buck owns enough sweats, which you know,

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Speaker 1: and she she told me that I can't actually and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, they're sweats, like I could go running in them.

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Speaker 1: But she's like, you shouldn't be leaving the house and

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Speaker 1: going to work in sweats. And I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 1: really understand why that's not you know, it's comfortable. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: but there's a company that makes really comfy looking sweats

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Speaker 1: and it keeps popping up on my feed and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: it's like they know me. And I guess they do

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Speaker 1: because they collect all this information about you. But I

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Speaker 1: may I may be one of those people that just

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Speaker 1: I've never even heard of these guys before, but it

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Speaker 1: looks like those sweatpants are super comfy and I may

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Speaker 1: just have to click and buy them. And this is

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Speaker 1: now the way it's gonna This is how you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be consuming your information, your news, how you're connected with

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Speaker 1: your friends and family and talking to people, and also

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Speaker 1: your consumer habits. I when in in my uh my

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Speaker 1: building this morning, in the mail room where I live

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Speaker 1: here in New York, because you know, we don't live

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Speaker 1: in house. If you live in a house in New York,

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, let me shine my monocle now. I

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Speaker 1: mean like there's no houses in Manhattan really that you

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Speaker 1: live in. There are some, but the price tag is

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Speaker 1: pretty insane when we're down in the mail room and

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Speaker 1: it looked like an advertisement for Amazon. I mean it

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Speaker 1: was just because of course, coming up with the Christmas season,

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Speaker 1: and you know, forget about Amazon. Nine line Craig Club,

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Speaker 1: The Wonderful sponsors of this show, that's what you should

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Speaker 1: be doing. But it looked like an advertisement for Amazon,

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01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: because this is, however, was doing so much of their

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,440
Speaker 1: shopping now and it was I I am not exaggerating.

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Speaker 1: There were boxes from Amazon in the middle, stacked shoulder

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Speaker 1: high in anticipation of the Christmas season, and and this

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Speaker 1: is just it's all being run through these different social

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Speaker 1: media interfaces, and I just I tell you things like

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Speaker 1: it's important, and you know, Ms Molly has to hold

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Speaker 1: me to it because occasionally I will be spending a

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01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: little too much attention time on my phone. But you

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01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: really need to draw these bounties for yourselves. And I

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Speaker 1: will say it as much as I just also like

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Speaker 1: to bring Arianna into the show as a kind of character. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think she's right about the the work life balance concerns,

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Speaker 1: specifically when it comes to technology, social media, computers, all

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01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: the stuff that we're doing all the time. You know,

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01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, you know, and maybe even

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01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: like right to me and tell me what you think

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01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 1: about it. For those of you that think you're maybe

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01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: a little too tech connected, leave your smartphone at home

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01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: and go for like a long, like an hour or

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01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: two long walk or go do something for an hour

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01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: or two without it and see if you can really

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Speaker 1: do that without thinking, oh gosh, like, you know, is

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Speaker 1: work looking for me? Or you know, are my friends

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01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: looking for me? Or and be honest with yourself about it,

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01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 1: and you'll start to see that we are. You know,

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01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: It's like we're all a bunch of Gerbils in some

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01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: kind of science experiment and don't really realize what's going

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01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: on with some of this social media stuff and how

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01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: it's affecting us in our habits. And I'm just saying,

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01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: just putting out that now because he knows things. He's

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01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: a very smart boy, and he does a fantastic radio show.

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01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: It's a mess. The president elects life is endangered under

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01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: no circumstances allow her motorcade to leave them hotel. More

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Speaker 1: than two hundred individuals are detained in the investigations surrounding

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01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: the attack on President Keen in nine days before her inauguration.

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01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: The last time they tried to overthrow the government was

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01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: never we execute people for that in this country. Mr

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01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: McK london, I'm bringing you, federal agent to testify against

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01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: the government about some of the most expansive civil rights

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Speaker 1: aduse in the history of our nation. Full disclosure. The

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01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:40,799
Speaker 1: president doesn't know him here surprise, I'm an a fenderal prison.

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01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: What do you think when he grows up dreaming and

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01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: taking down criminals inside their own government? All right, you

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01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 1: get the idea, everybody. That's the trailer for Homeland, Buck

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01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: Saxon back with you now. That's some of the trailer

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01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: for Homeland season seven. I do not watch Homeland, although

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01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: I'm often asked about it because, uh, Claire Danes plays

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01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: a c I A analysts, and and I can put

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01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: some questions to rest right now. Uh no, it is

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01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,520
Speaker 1: it is not that cool to be a CIA analysts.

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01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: And and also, uh, if if they had ever found

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01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: me with my walls papered with classified documents, not only

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: would I never have let have been let back inside Langley.

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01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: I saw season one of Homeland, I can tell you that,

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01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: and then I stuff. I watched some of season two

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01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm out, I can't, I can't do

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01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: this anymore. Was ridiculous. I got a guy who's in

1316
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: like the situation room texting a hes bullet terrorists during

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01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: I know spoilers, spoilers, and I was years ago. Uh,

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01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: texting and hesbilit arroirists a terrorists who manages to duck

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01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: out of a line of fire just in time. Like, wow,

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01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: that's great cell service he's got. Anyway, I just thought

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01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't really take it anymore, and and so I

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01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 1: stopped watching it. But you know one of the So

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01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 1: home mane season seven, Why am me telling you about this?

1324
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: Because this is another one of these times where you

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01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: get to see showtime HBO. They do some great stuff.

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01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: I like Game of Thrones very much, and I'm not

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01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: going to say that they aren't artistically very talented enterprises

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01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: with the shows they put on. They are, But of

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01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: course their politics are so left wick and it comes

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01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: across and all the stuff you see, it comes across

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01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, Bill Maher gets a show,

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01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: John Oliver has a show, and it's like, can you

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01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 1: maybe put somebody who doesn't just tout the pro Hillary

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01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: pro Obama party line on every single issue? No, they won't. Right,

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01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 1: A long time ago they had Dennis Miller rom which

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01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: actually he I thought he had a good show. I

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01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 1: like Dennis Miller. Side note, But So Homeland season seven,

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01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: you could you you knew this was gonna happen right.

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01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: Homeland season seven is about a rogue presidency. You hurt,

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01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: their civil rights abuses, and the president elect, who is female,

1341
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 1: is somehow stopped from becoming president and the actual you know,

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01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 1: the the guy who becomes president is is a you know,

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01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: it's like a coup, and and it's a rogue presidency.

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01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. Oh, what a surprise that,

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01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: in the era of Trump, a show that will air

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01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: either the end of next year or in ten is

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01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: going to be about a rogue presidency. You know. I

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01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 1: have thoughts on on two levels about this. One of

1349
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: them is that this is not just art, this is

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01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:24,799
Speaker 1: also influencing culture. And when you make these kinds of shows,

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01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 1: and people will associate Trump with this rogue presidency that

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01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 1: stopped the duly elected female president from becoming president, and

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01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: that's engaged in civil rights abuses on an unprecedented scale.

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01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: People are gonna associate that with the Trump, of course,

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01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: just as they were supposed to associate I forget the

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01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: actress's name, but at leone I think who was playing

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01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 1: Madam's secretary with Hillary Clinton? So they have this, you

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01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: know that this stunningly beautiful, charming woman who is supposed

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: to be associated with you as secretary of State, with

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01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: the then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. This is Hollywood propaganda, right,

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01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: That's what's going on here. And look they're allowed to

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01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 1: do it. It's fine, But I just have to laugh

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01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: that here we are Trump presidencies the end of year one,

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01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: and the focus and all the threats we face North

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01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 1: Korea are resurgent, aggressive Russia, all the different jihadist entities

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01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: out there are increasingly powerful, and Bellicoast China, all the

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01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 1: stuff that we have in the world of international espionage. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the problem is the president, right, that's oh yeah, the

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01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: real threat that they have to deal with the homeland

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Speaker 1: is the presidency. And I know that this was you know,

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Speaker 1: if if I could have like some huff Post, Vox

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01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: Slate writers joined me here in the room, which they

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01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: would never do, but they'd say, oh, it's come on,

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01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 1: you're just it's about art and it's a show and

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01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: you're taking too seriously. These television has as a profound

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01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: effect on the mindset of the American electorate, including fiction,

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01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: I should right, including scripted shows, especially when they so

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01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: closely mirror real life. So there's the political side of

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01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: it that I just have to laugh. Roague presidency. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen the new season, but they might as

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01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: well just have a president with like a big mop

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01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: of blonde hair combed to the side, who's like eating

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01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: cheeseburgers and and having all of the you know, illegal

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01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: immigrants thrown into detention camps at the same time while

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01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: he like laughs and drinks diet cokes. I mean, it's

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01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: just so clear what the messaging here is supposed to be.

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01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: But I have to laugh. And then the other side

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01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: of it is just I get so sick of all

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01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: these shows about the c i A. And you know,

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Speaker 1: not that I'm so you know, I like the c

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01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 1: i A. I've I've been out for a long time

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01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: and you know all that. But so I'm not sitting

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01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 1: here trying to carry water for the agency. But he's

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01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he is. Actually, I mean, I

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01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: think we know we're on to you section, but I'm

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01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: just trying to say that, you know, there's a lot

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01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: of bad guys, bad people out there in the world

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01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: that the CIA is working against, fighting against. You know,

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01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: why can't we have more of the James Bond model,

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01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, James Bond is m I six. He's a

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01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: brit and he's fighting bad guys. Yeah, he has to

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01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: overcome bureaucracy. But there are you know, He's odd Job

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01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: and you know, uh, the guy with the metal jawn

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01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: and I mean all the different bad guys over the years,

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01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 1: right when it comes to CIA shows, look at the

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01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Bourne Identity, you look at any any number of them,

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01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: and there's so many that it's like the real bad

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01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: guys are inside the CIA and I just kind of

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01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: feel like at some point, you know, there's a lot

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01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: of dragons out there to slay that aren't just rogue

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01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: people inside of of lang Talking about storylines now, but

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01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: stories matter, Stories are powerful. They change the way we

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01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: think about things. That That was always my problem with

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01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: the Bourne Identity. I'm like, so the only bad guys

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01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: are are are inside Langley or work for Langley. There's

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01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: no other bad guys that they have to deal with

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01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: really in that show, there's like a couple of Russians

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01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: that are trying to line their pockets with some cash.

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01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: But I mean it's right show a little golden winthrough.

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01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: We want to do what you got to do anyway,

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01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: that's here we are Homeland No surprise. The Rogue Presidency

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01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,560
Speaker 1: is the next storyline. Um, I will not go and

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01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 1: watch it. The other thing is, I can't watch these

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01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: shows because as much as I'm willing to suspend my

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01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: disbelief for I really like comic book movies. Tyrone best

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01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: comic book movie of all time is what He's on

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01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: the spot right now. I'll see what he gets. The

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01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:34,919
Speaker 1: first Toby McGuire Spider Man. Wow. Okay, okay, I probably

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01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: go the first Iron Man movie actually, Um, but I

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01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: respect that this Spider Man franchise as well. Anyway, I

1431
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 1: like I like those kinds of movies. I always felt

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01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: like the X Men movies underperformed for me because I

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01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: love the X Men growing up, and I just felt

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01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: like they never really got it right. There's a little

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01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 1: too much c g I not enough storyline anyway. But yeah,

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01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: that's the problem with Um. That's the problem with the

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01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: next season of Homeland. It is that it's gonna be

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01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: all about the bad guys in not just forget about

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01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: the bad guys in Langley, the bad guys who are

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01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: running the country who I'm guessing the name is gonna

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01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,799
Speaker 1: rhyme with you know, drump and all of a sudden,

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01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out that the president's beautiful daughter is

1443
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: in on the scheme and she's trying to prevent and

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01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 1: the president has a son in law who's like water

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01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: boarding people himself in the back room. I mean, you

1446
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: can just see it all. You can just see it

1447
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 1: all happening. That's the way it's gonna play out. So

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01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 1: oh my, you know, they should just let me write

1449
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: some some cool spy stuff. But very hard to get

1450
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 1: fiction published and even harder to get it made into

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01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 1: a movie or a TV show. Um, we'll team. The

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01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: meat too movement continues on. More allegations, more accusations, people

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01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: getting fired, people losing their jobs, people's reputations in tatters

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01:23:55,160 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: for in many cases, wildly egregious sexual miscon conduct. But

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01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: are we now at the point that even more minor

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01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 1: transgressions are being punished? Are we starting to see that

1457
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: the snowball effects of the me too sexual harassment sexual

1458
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: misconduct purge has gotten to be too powerful It is

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01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: now being abused. We've got in as Felcher Stepman on

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01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: the line. She's a senior contributor at The Federalist, and

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01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: she wrote a piece here a few weeks back and

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01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,799
Speaker 1: we're going to talk to her about her her thesis

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01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: and how she you know, continue to talk about it

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01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: today given the more recent allegations. But she wrote, ladies,

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01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 1: you haven't been raped if someone cat called at you,

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01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: and it's great to have you. So you clearly were

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01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: worried about this a while ago with the me to

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01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: move and I saw some of this as well. There

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01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 1: were some early earlier in this whole movement, there were

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01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: some people saying, oh, you know, I heard a crass

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01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: comment ten years ago from this guy or and and

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01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: it started to feel a little like, are are we

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01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: really go you know, let's let's not lump together, uh,

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01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: serial psycho predator Harvey Weinstein with somebody that like told

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01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: a knock knock joke that you know, was a bit

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01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,759
Speaker 1: scatological or something, right, I mean, you know, it seemed

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Speaker 1: like there was that was going on. How has this

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01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: played out since you wrote that piece in October? Do

1479
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 1: you think that it's still within the bounds of only

1480
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: people are being called out for bad conduct or you

1481
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: think that we've started to see this either get political

1482
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: or hyper sensitive. Well, I think it's it's getting both.

1483
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: Actually it's getting You have this sort of tick for

1484
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 1: tap political thing where there's X number of Republicans who

1485
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: have been used an x number of Democrats and we

1486
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: try to uh see the moral high ground depending on

1487
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: what the telly is that week. Look, there's no doubt

1488
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: that there have been a lot of men and power

1489
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: abusing that power, and a lot of these guys really

1490
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: do deserve to go down. What concerns what what really

1491
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: concerns me is the conflation of all kinds of different

1492
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 1: behavior in the same pot. So um one of my

1493
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: bottom five senators, which is hard to get right out, um,

1494
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: Al Franken. There's lots of competition for that bottom five.

1495
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: But what he did is not really the same type

1496
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: of thing that say, Harvey wind gains it. It's inappropriate,

1497
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 1: it's borish, um and, and it's extremely rude. And I

1498
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: would never encourage anyone to behave the way he did.

1499
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 1: I think he ought to be ashamed of himself. Um.

1500
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: But to put that in the same category with some

1501
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: of the stories we've been hearing about, you know, whether

1502
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 1: that's Hardy wine Stain or Matt Lowery even I think

1503
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: those stories were somewhere in between the two. I think

1504
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: those value in drawing these distinctions because it really makes

1505
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 1: it harder for the victims who come out of the

1506
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: most egregious behavior when we just lump it all in

1507
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: one in one kind of categories. Yeah, I've been saying

1508
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: this for a while. It seems not that I'm I

1509
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 1: think Al Franken's auld jerk, and I could there's a

1510
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: lot of bad things that I'd say about at Frankin,

1511
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: But I do think it's a little unfair to put

1512
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 1: out Frankie on a on a list. And I've seen

1513
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: list like this with Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinste I mean,

1514
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 1: and I think the criminal justice system, by the way,

1515
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: I would agree with me that it's a little unfair

1516
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: to put them on the on the same list. Um.

1517
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 1: And I just wonder at what point will we get

1518
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: more specific with this, or will we be more careful

1519
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: as a as a country, as a society is talking

1520
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: about it, because I'm just waiting for the first big

1521
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: case of uh, this person needs to be fired and

1522
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, but that's not even they didn't even

1523
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: really do anything, you know, even if they did it,

1524
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 1: they didn't really do anything. I think we're gonna get there. Um,

1525
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: I think these situations. Often the further down this chain

1526
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 1: of a greatious behavior you go, the more ambiguous the

1527
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: situation has come. Um. And and we are now in

1528
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: this moment, this cultural moment, which has some upside that

1529
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 1: definitely sort of nabbing some people who have been abusing

1530
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: their power for a long time and bringing them down.

1531
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 1: But I think it has some downsides in that this

1532
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 1: is a perfect moment for a woman who uh, you know,

1533
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 1: has a grudge against the next boyfriend or experience something

1534
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: that made her feel subjectively uncomfortable but wasn't really agregious

1535
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: behavior on the part of the man um to come

1536
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 1: forward now when those stories are still not being rigorously questioned,

1537
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: and and men are sort of getting fired before the

1538
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: full investigation even comes in, sometimes sometimes rightly and sometimes wrongly. UM.

1539
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: This this whole I think moment is reading a lot

1540
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 1: of mistrust between men and women and is causing good

1541
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: men who do not want, you know, never in their

1542
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 1: lives intended to harass or abuse a woman. UM is

1543
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: making them afraid to interact with women in the workplace,

1544
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: or flirt with women, or whatever you want to call it.

1545
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: UM And I think that's a shame. We're speaking to

1546
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: an as Beltress that men she's a senior contributor at

1547
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: the Federalist and as I also want to ask, you know,

1548
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: are we ever do you think they'll ever be a

1549
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:13,719
Speaker 1: moment where women will also want to have a public

1550
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: exploration of a phenomenon that definitely exists in the news media,

1551
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: and that is that some women advanced their careers through

1552
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: flirtation as well as perhaps romance with the boss. And

1553
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,799
Speaker 1: I know of one or two cases that are already

1554
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 1: very prominent where the story has been so and so

1555
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: was harassed and and treated poorly, but there's a prec

1556
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: there's a precursor to that story, which was so and

1557
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: so also was getting jobs that she probably wouldn't have uh,

1558
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: and this is using inside sources that I know of

1559
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't have were it not for the boss's favoritism. And

1560
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: now so and so is a martyr and a hero

1561
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:56,560
Speaker 1: for all women. And I kind of sit here and

1562
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, there are women that probably

1563
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: would have gotten some jobs there who didn't because when

1564
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: it was working for uh lady in question here, she

1565
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: was happy to be the beneficiary. Yeah. I mean, I

1566
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: think what we really have, um is a culture around

1567
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 1: sex and flircation and and um, you know, relationships between

1568
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 1: men and women that protects predators of both sexes. And

1569
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you call the women predators so

1570
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: much as the male side of us is sort of

1571
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: predatory and the women's side is exploitative, right, um, but

1572
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: both definitely exist and opportunistic. Maybe yeah, Yeah, I think

1573
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: our culture right now is sort of we've we've taken

1574
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,959
Speaker 1: all the guide rails off of male and female interaction.

1575
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 1: There are virtually no taboos anymore around sex and around um,

1576
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, the relationships that men and women can have

1577
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 1: from the casual to the long term. Um. And I

1578
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 1: just I think it's very revealing that Mike Pence was

1579
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: more so hoarsely for having this role that he doesn't

1580
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 1: dine alone with other women and mine, um, other than

1581
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 1: his wife. To me, it all comes from the same place.

1582
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:11,560
Speaker 1: It all comes from a place of a lot of

1583
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: confusion about what is appropriate behavior between men and women

1584
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 1: and what isn't, What is sexual and what isn't, what's

1585
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, acceptable, what's an acceptable way to to show

1586
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 1: interest in a woman and what isn't. And I think

1587
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: taking a lot of those guide rails off or those

1588
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 1: guard rail books, um have really not only confused the

1589
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: vast majority of good ad men and women, but have

1590
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 1: also given that ambiguous cover to people who really want

1591
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 1: to take advantage of either their sexuality or to take

1592
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 1: advantage of their power to use their sexuality to to harass. So,

1593
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I try to come with this from a

1594
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: from a bunch of different or from from different angles

1595
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 1: and perspectives in it. Because yeah, there's this sense right

1596
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: now that all the that a lot of very bad

1597
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,640
Speaker 1: people have had their have had the public aiming and

1598
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: to come up, and so they deserve. But I'm not

1599
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: sure that we have much in the way of a

1600
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: of a takeaway from this whole movement other than you know,

1601
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: don't be scummy, you know, don't don't be a predator,

1602
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: don't be a harasser. Right, I mean, I don't. I

1603
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: don't see what the different. It's not that the rules

1604
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: are different, it's just that we found out that a

1605
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 1: lot of people were breaking them. Is at least That's

1606
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 1: how I'm seeing it. Um. I don't think it's quite

1607
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 1: that clear. I think it's clear in a few of

1608
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: these cases that are in the media, but I think

1609
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 1: the general moment the me too moment is making a

1610
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 1: lot of men question what I would call ultimately either

1611
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 1: harmless or ambiguous behavior. I mean, we had one of

1612
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: the famous ones, the kind of bounce around Twitter was

1613
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: this UM girl who was really upset that a T.

1614
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 1: S A Agent had asked for her number while like,

1615
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: I remember that, I remember that. Yeah, And stuff like

1616
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 1: that makes it really difficult for guys to figure out

1617
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: what's okay and what isn't. And to add to that,

1618
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 1: the same exact behavior from different guys might be interpreted

1619
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: differ only by the exact same woman. And that's something

1620
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: that I think very few people want to admit. But

1621
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: the exact same behavior UM or flirtation from a guy

1622
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,600
Speaker 1: that a woman happens to be interested in is going

1623
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: to be perceived as you know, positive until they're happy

1624
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: to receive that attention. But if some other guy that

1625
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: she's not interested in does the exact same thing or

1626
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 1: says the exact same words to her, UM, it will

1627
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: be perceived as intimidating or harassment. UM. So much of

1628
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 1: this is ambiguous and contextual that I can see as

1629
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 1: a guy, why would start to get a little bit scary? Yeah,

1630
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 1: and people are going to be very careful at their

1631
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: Christmas and holiday parties this year. I think that's for sure.

1632
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: A lot of them can be drinking uh soda pop anyway,

1633
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 1: and that's it in Its great to have you on.

1634
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,799
Speaker 1: Thanks for joinings, Enis Belcher Stepman. Everybody read her latest

1635
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,640
Speaker 1: at The Federalist, where she is a contributor. Thanks you

1636
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: Is and happy holidays. Dame rolling into a break, We'll

1637
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 1: be right back. The struggle against dad Bob before one

1638
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 1: is a dad. That's what I'm into today. I went

1639
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 1: to the gym, did some circuit training. I don't know,

1640
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 1: I don't know how people do it. After a while,

1641
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 1: I start to feel like, you know, I just wish

1642
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 1: that sweatpants would be considered not just acceptable work attire,

1643
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 1: but you know, stylish. And whenever I try to wear

1644
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 1: my new balanced sneakers, which I think are perfectly acceptable,

1645
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 1: Ms Molly tells me to put some shoes on because

1646
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 1: we're going outside and I'm not on a running track.

1647
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: But yes, I'm I'm trying to fight the the holiday

1648
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 1: belly bulge, and I think I'm losing right now. But

1649
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 1: I will say on the happy front of well this

1650
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 1: is not really connected, but just speaking about bellies and

1651
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 1: happy bellies. So I have, finally, I think, managed to

1652
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: figure out how to make a phenomenal burger, not on

1653
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: a grill. I know a lot of you are gonna

1654
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 1: tell me, hold on a second buck, there's no way

1655
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 1: you can make a burger on the stove top or

1656
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 1: using a stove that is anywhere near as good as

1657
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 1: barbecue grill. And I would say to you, you're correct.

1658
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 1: It's always gonna be better when you actually have an

1659
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 1: outdoor grill. You can barbecue it on. It gets all

1660
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: that smoke and flavor. But as it is frigid here

1661
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 1: in New York City, it was so cold today I

1662
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 1: was walking around and my eyes were tearing up and

1663
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 1: my nose was running, and I was just feeling very

1664
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 1: sorry for myself having to walk around and run some

1665
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: errands today. I'm not about to set up a well,

1666
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 1: I don't have a place to set up a barbecue,

1667
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: but nonetheless, it wouldn't be good to be outside with it.

1668
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 1: So here's what I did. I want to just share

1669
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 1: this with you because I like to bring information to

1670
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 1: the show. First of all, I have found that with

1671
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 1: the burger, Yeah, the marinade is important, but really if

1672
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 1: you just have a good salt pepper mix and some

1673
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:59,440
Speaker 1: basic spices, and they even make some good prepackaged meat spices.

1674
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: I think with good meat, I don't like to go

1675
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:06,600
Speaker 1: too heavy on the different on the different sauces. I

1676
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 1: really like the meat to speak for itself in a sense.

1677
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 1: But you give the spicing and then you I didn't

1678
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: think this was a big deal before, but it really is.

1679
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: You absolutely have to let the meat come down in temperature,

1680
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 1: because if you pull it right out of the fridge.

1681
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, if you're thawing it out of

1682
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 1: the freezer, you already know that. But I used to

1683
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 1: be somebody who's like, pull it out of the fridge,

1684
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 1: throw it on the pan. You know, the pan's hot,

1685
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 1: It'll get warm and everything will be fine. But that

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01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 1: creates a really uneven burger, all right, And this is important,

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01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,839
Speaker 1: important to me, important to you. I mean, the President

1688
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: himself eats burgers all the time, although he eats them

1689
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 1: well done, and I think he mostly gets them from

1690
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 1: fast food joints, which is cool. I ain't. I ain't

1691
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 1: Hayden on the on the fast food situation. I just

1692
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 1: the diet cokes twelve a day, that's not my jam.

1693
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 1: But you know what that's that's okay. Um. Anyway back

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01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: to the burgers. Uh, somebody asked me today, actually, what's

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01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 1: your what is your soda? If you had to pick

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01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: a soda, that was your weakness. Definitely ginger ale for me. Um,

1697
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 1: that that's my treat when I'm on a plane and

1698
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 1: allow myself to have a little ginger ail, which so

1699
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,759
Speaker 1: it is terrible for you, but that's a whole other discussion.

1700
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 1: So the burger, the perfect burger at home, you have

1701
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: to let it rest for a little bit. And I

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01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 1: did this today. I had my cast iron out and

1703
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 1: I let it come down pretty close to room temperature,

1704
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:31,759
Speaker 1: got that cast iron really hot, and then just seared

1705
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: the bgs out of both sides of that really good.

1706
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,600
Speaker 1: I like an mix in my burger in terms of

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01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 1: the lean to two fat ratio, but I really got

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01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 1: a good sear going on and got a bit of

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01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 1: the brown caramelization on that burger. And then here's the

1710
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 1: part that I I used to turn my nose about this.

1711
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 1: I say, I'm not going to do that, but I

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01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 1: took the cast iron put in the oven after I

1713
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 1: had seared both sides really well for or ten minutes

1714
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,520
Speaker 1: about give or take at three fifty already had preseasoned

1715
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 1: it with spices, and then I'm able to pull it out.

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01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 1: You can be careful when you put a cast iron

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01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 1: in there. It's so easy to be like, oh, I'm

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01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 1: gonna grab my cast I have. I'm not I have

1719
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: knock on wood. I'm good with knives and haven't cut

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01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: myself in any of my cooking expeditions really, but I

1721
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 1: do burn myself like like an imbecile on a regular basis.

1722
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, that pen doesn't look caught. But anyway, you

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01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 1: gotta be careful with cast irons. So I grabbed the

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01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,640
Speaker 1: uh well first, I put on in of admit, you know,

1725
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 1: a very very masculine of admit, And I took that

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01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 1: burger out. And I find that a very useful rule

1727
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 1: of thumb, if you will, kind of a double ontoendre here,

1728
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: is if you think of your thumb and the way

1729
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: it connects into your hand, and you can press on

1730
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 1: the different parts of it. The closer you get to

1731
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: your wrist, there's a different firmness, and when you get

1732
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 1: really close to your wrist, it's very firm on your hand.

1733
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 1: And then if you go up towards your thumb, it

1734
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 1: gets a little softer. You really wanted to feel like

1735
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 1: the center of the burger, to feel a bit like

1736
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: the part of your hand that's below your thumb, but

1737
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 1: midway between your wrist, so it has give, but it's

1738
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,599
Speaker 1: not mushy. If you put your finger in the middle

1739
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 1: of that burger and it's mushy, you gotta raw burger

1740
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 1: in the middle. So that's why you gotta do a

1741
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 1: little bit of People I know use thermometers and all

1742
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:27,640
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff, but I'm not fancy like that. And

1743
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you guys this right now. It's not

1744
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 1: a humble Bragg's, straight up brag. I cooked a phenomenal

1745
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 1: burger for lunch today. I was very proud of myself.

1746
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 1: So that was my little gift to myself after I

1747
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 1: worked out and almost almost yacht on the floor a

1748
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 1: few times during my workout, a reminder that maybe I

1749
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 1: shouldn't just like let things go for a few months

1750
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 1: and then be like, I'll start working out again at

1751
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 1: some point. You know, I'm not trying to be like

1752
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 1: an underwear model here, folks. I just don't want to

1753
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:59,839
Speaker 1: have to buy another new set of clothing this holiday season,

1754
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:03,600
Speaker 1: which may happen, may happen. The good thing is, you know,

1755
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 1: miss Molly works in fashion, so she'll just be like, yeah,

1756
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:08,640
Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think we I think we can

1757
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 1: get you a good poncho. You know, I think we'll

1758
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 1: get you something that will you know, just we'll just

1759
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 1: cover all that up for the winter months. Ah yeah,

1760
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 1: working out in burgers. The struggle is real, but the

1761
01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:24,640
Speaker 1: burger struggle at least I won that one today. I

1762
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 1: have a lot of fantastic Team Buck Speaks emails and

1763
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: messages via Facebook that are a lot of them are

1764
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:35,759
Speaker 1: responses to yesterday's show, and some are just general thoughts.

1765
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 1: Will get into that right after the break. And if

1766
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 1: you're listening, by the way, and you have not already,

1767
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 1: please go uh and subscribe on iTunes to this show.

1768
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 1: As we go into the new year, we do have

1769
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 1: our History podcast getting launched. If you are a subscriber

1770
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 1: on iTunes, even if you listen to show live on radio,

1771
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 1: you will get that History podcast, which you need to

1772
01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast for it. All right, we'll back

1773
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: with Team buck Speaks. Stay with me, alright, Team It's

1774
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 1: where you all get to take over the show. It's

1775
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:09,560
Speaker 1: time for Team Buck Speaks to close us out on

1776
01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: this lovely Wednesday evening. Here here's what we got, Dear Buck.

1777
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: This is from Jonathan love listening. You do a great job.

1778
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 1: Just a thought. This attempted bombing and NYC just shows

1779
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: that the Left is against guns and not for saving lives.

1780
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: Otherwise we would see an uproar about needing stronger control

1781
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 1: on bomb components. Also on Monday, you spoke about the

1782
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: same sex couple fighting for who has rights after divorce

1783
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:43,520
Speaker 1: to a child that was brought into the world assisted

1784
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 1: by a sperm donor. Maybe I'm missing something here, but

1785
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 1: why does this require changing the law or the terms

1786
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:54,440
Speaker 1: defining parents. Many heterosexual couples have been in this situation.

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01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: That is why I'm sure there's a clear law that

1788
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 1: addresses when a married couple divorces and defied lines who

1789
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 1: has custody to the child born by assistance of a

1790
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: sperm donor? Am I missing something? To keep up the

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01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: great workshields high, Jonathan, My understanding in that case is

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01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 1: that the parental rights of the donor were not, as

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01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 1: a matter of law, vacated. There's some process that one

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01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 1: goes through. I don't really know much about it beyond that,

1795
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 1: but I will go back and look at the I'll

1796
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 1: go back and look at the specifics in the case,

1797
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 1: and if I have a more robust answer for you,

1798
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 1: I'll come back on air and let you know. Um

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01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 1: Andy with the following. Hey, Buck, I'm listening a couple

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01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: of days behind. Just heard your analysis on the Shaver shooting.

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01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 1: Thank you for that. I saw this video and I

1802
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,799
Speaker 1: was going in expecting to be siding with the police

1803
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 1: as I usually do. This was an exception. After watching

1804
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 1: I tried to do the activities that the murderer instructed

1805
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 1: him to do. I failed miserably, and I didn't have

1806
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: a gun ten feet from me. Thank you for being

1807
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,759
Speaker 1: honest and not just a talking head for the police.

1808
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 1: This is why I listened to you and value your opinion.

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01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: Shields high. Andy. Well, Andy, thank you, And I would

1810
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 1: just say that I also usually go into any video

1811
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 1: that is captioned, you know, police murder on tape or something,

1812
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: and I say, you know, the sus suspect or subject

1813
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 1: is not going to comply, maybe has some you know,

1814
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 1: rude word to escalate the situation with the cops. Is

1815
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 1: fighting and and then in the heat of the moment,

1816
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 1: something happens. That's not what I saw, and I explained

1817
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 1: in detail what I did see in that Daniel Shaver shooting.

1818
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,879
Speaker 1: UM So, a lot, a lot of emails and messages

1819
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 1: have come in on that. I'm glad we talked about

1820
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 1: it yesterday. I get on the show because clearly it

1821
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 1: resonates with many of you. Uh. This is from Ryan

1822
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 1: who was writing from Iraq. Buck, I'm writing in response

1823
01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 1: to the Philip Brailsford verdict, but first I need to

1824
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 1: address us Officer Dan's call. Officer Dan from Ohio has

1825
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,600
Speaker 1: no idea what he's talking about. When it comes to

1826
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 1: your career. You serve your country bravely and did more

1827
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,679
Speaker 1: than we will ever know. Thank you for your service. Buck.

1828
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: I served four tours in combat as a marine and

1829
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 1: have used lethal force on multiple occasions, including at point

1830
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: blank range. I say this only to describe their perspective

1831
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 1: I see. The issue from law enforcement appears to put

1832
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 1: forward this idea that if someone reaches into their waistband,

1833
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 1: then it is justified to shoot them. Just because you

1834
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: can legally shoot someone does not mean it is morally justified.

1835
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 1: The general public tends to give the police some leeway

1836
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 1: on this, and they do so with good intentions. What

1837
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:45,759
Speaker 1: the public does not realize is that if the officer

1838
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 1: has been taught how to make a lethal force statement,

1839
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 1: he is almost unconvictable. But let's break this down. If

1840
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: the officer has an a R fifteen pointed at the

1841
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 1: person in question, then they have plenty of time to

1842
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 1: squeeze off accurate shot if the suspect did draw a

1843
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 1: pistol and try to shoot the officer. I know this

1844
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 1: because I have had my rifle pointed at people countless times,

1845
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 1: and in the instances that I did have to fire,

1846
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 1: I had plenty of time to engage. A trained pistol

1847
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 1: shooter typically can draw and fire an accurate shot and

1848
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 1: under one point five seconds at a target inside ten meters.

1849
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 1: This is standing with a holster and a concealment garment.

1850
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: This is not kneeling, terrified, drinking feet cross with a

1851
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:34,679
Speaker 1: rifle in your face. This time standard is common among

1852
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:39,439
Speaker 1: competitive pistol shooters and highly trained personnel. Thankfully, I assume

1853
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 1: it is highly uncommon in the criminal world, and even

1854
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:45,839
Speaker 1: less common in the normal guy wearing basketball shorts outside

1855
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: of his hotel room crowd. My opinion being that even

1856
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:52,759
Speaker 1: if Daniel Shaver was a professional shooter and was drawing

1857
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 1: a pistol, then the officer would have had plenty of

1858
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 1: time to engage him before the pistol was presented. This

1859
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: police officer and his sarge the voice in the video

1860
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 1: are a disgrace and should have been sentenced to murder.

1861
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 1: If a service member in combat had done the exact

1862
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 1: same thing, he would be in prison. I will pray

1863
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 1: for Daniel's widow and children. God bless them. Respectfully, Ryan

1864
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 1: in Iraq, Well, Ryan, thank you for your service, and

1865
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: thank you for your kind words about my own little

1866
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:24,759
Speaker 1: contribution to the war on Terror, although it absolutely pales

1867
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 1: in comparison to what you have been doing. My friend,

1868
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 1: thank you for your very well thought out and and

1869
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 1: compelling analysis of the Shaver shooting. I obviously see it

1870
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 1: the same way, but you, as somebody who has had

1871
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 1: to be in lethal force situations, have a particularly valuable perspective.

1872
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 1: So thank you for your service. Ryan, Thank you, and

1873
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 1: to stay safe out in Iraq. Al Right, we have

1874
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:53,719
Speaker 1: Rick in Ohio in Iowa. Hey, Buck, just listen to podcast.

1875
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:55,560
Speaker 1: We got a lot of these guys just listen to

1876
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 1: the podcast with that officer from Ohio who called in.

1877
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 1: He's right about one major thing, but his argument falls

1878
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 1: apart because he doesn't connect the dots. It is the

1879
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 1: law that police are allowed to use deadly force to

1880
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:11,719
Speaker 1: protect themselves, such as when a suspect reaches for their waistband. However,

1881
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 1: the caller kept saying he disagreed with the tactics and

1882
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 1: commands used. Well, it was those unreasonable commands and tactics

1883
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 1: which created the situation which led to the suspect reaching

1884
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 1: to pull up his pants. That progression of unreasonable events

1885
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: was the problem which triggered the fatal action. Both cops

1886
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 1: should have been convicted. Rick, I completely agree. This is

1887
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 1: why on my piece for the Hill, I wrote, you

1888
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:37,800
Speaker 1: know what, what's next? The cop can say, I'm not

1889
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 1: gonna feel safe until you do a handstand and I

1890
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 1: see if anything falls out of your pockets, and then

1891
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: your handstand collapses and you just instinctively grabbed your side

1892
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: because you're trying not to fall, and the cops shoots. You.

1893
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 1: Remember the cops said, if you have to fall, fall

1894
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 1: on your face, that's what the cops said. How many

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Speaker 1: people would do that? You know instinctively think about this.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, uh so, and I appreciate very much you

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Speaker 1: all writing in about it. All right. We got another

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Speaker 1: one here from E. This one coming to us on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Those others were emails we got at our email address,

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Speaker 1: which is official Team Buck at gmail dot com. This

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Speaker 1: is from Facebook dot com slash Buck Sexton, and E

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Speaker 1: writes Buck, I love your show. I'm probably a bit

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Speaker 1: late on weighing in on this. I listened to you

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Speaker 1: on podcast because I'm out in Hawaii, but I did

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Speaker 1: want to throw in my opinion on the police shooting

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Speaker 1: in Arizona. I'm a former recon team leader and current

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Speaker 1: law enforcement officer. I'm also currently a weapons and tactics

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Speaker 1: instructor for both the army and law enforcement. I've done

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Speaker 1: all kinds of security operations and all kinds of environments,

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Speaker 1: including high risk personal security details uh for high level

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Speaker 1: d D NATO personnel in some pretty sketchy places. First,

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Speaker 1: I want to concede the point made by the Ohio

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Speaker 1: officer that this is a high risk and stressful situation. However,

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Speaker 1: Tyrone pointed out that officers should be able to deal

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Speaker 1: with that. In fact, there are very effective systems used

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Speaker 1: to train against the effects operating in a high stress

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Speaker 1: environment called stress inoculation. It's been written about extensively by

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Speaker 1: Colonel David Grossman, Gavin de Becker, and others. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: as a young soldier I could see myself writing your

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Speaker 1: EFT on my rifle, But when you are operating in

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Speaker 1: view of the public, this is completely unacceptable. It shows

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Speaker 1: a mentality that is best held on the battlefield. It

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Speaker 1: is utterly unprofessional. And lastly, you are right the commands

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Speaker 1: were absurd and unnecessarily complicated. Not only that, but the

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Speaker 1: tactics those officers used were poor. Even after the shooting.

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Speaker 1: I believe their department needs to do some remedial training.

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Speaker 1: We must not forget that our duty is to protect

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Speaker 1: the public shields high e. Well, thank you for all

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Speaker 1: that you do, and thank you for your service and

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Speaker 1: your very excellent analysis of that tragic shooting. Okay, topic

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Speaker 1: change here in Team Buck Speaks. I don't see much

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Speaker 1: being said this from Alan about the right in votes

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Speaker 1: that could have swung the election. Two more, I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: that all of them were Republican. Well, Alan, I think

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Speaker 1: it is a sure thing that a lot of them

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Speaker 1: were Republican and the right in votes were the difference

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Speaker 1: maker here talking about an election that was the difference

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Speaker 1: was twenty thousand or so votes out of over a

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Speaker 1: million cast. I mean, that's that is a razor thin margin.

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Speaker 1: All right, we go one more in here from t J,

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Speaker 1: who writes, my wife and I are in the same

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Speaker 1: page as you and your crew. We also do not

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Speaker 1: drink pop as we call it in the Midwest, with

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Speaker 1: one exception if it's with our whiskey e whiskey diet

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Speaker 1: or whiskey hour with squirt obviously what squirt? Otherwise, the

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Speaker 1: only carbonated beverage that touches my lips is that of beer. Damn,

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Speaker 1: I sound like an alcoholic. Oh well, don't judge me,

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Speaker 1: t J. No judgments. My man and I need to

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Speaker 1: figure out what squirt is. But uh yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 1: not a soda guy. I have some vices, uh, meat, bacon,

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Speaker 1: whole milk, chocolate, that's those are the things that I owe.

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Speaker 1: And French fries. I am a French fry addict. Unfortunately

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Speaker 1: for my dad Bob fight here. But anyway, I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that you enjoy You enjoy the pop when you need to, Alright, team.

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Speaker 1: With that, I just want to say thank you all

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Speaker 1: for listening and for being a part of what I

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Speaker 1: do here every day. Best part of my day is

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Speaker 1: getting to hang out with all of you. Excited to

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Speaker 1: join you again tomorrow. As always, Shields High.