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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio, and we're back for another week

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Speaker 1: with my amazing co host Ashley. Oh thanks, Ben, You're

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Speaker 1: so sweet. Um. I think that you are feeling good today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're feeling good today. I can see it.

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Speaker 1: You have your shirt off. You just revealed to me

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Speaker 1: and the producers that you love being shirtless around the house,

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Speaker 1: but that you have a pet peeve. And that is

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Speaker 1: when the when Bachelor Nation guys habitually post shirtless pictures

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, is this your bend's bitches of the week,

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is. You know. Nick Vile is one of

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Speaker 1: my friends. He's one of your friends. I will tell

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Speaker 1: him in a second that I think it is unreal

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Speaker 1: how many shirtless pictures he posts. I think it is.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's weird. I think it's odd. I

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Speaker 1: don't like it, especially when you have a significant other.

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Speaker 1: That's where it really crosses, doesn't Well he can. I

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Speaker 1: I'm saying like I can still get on him because

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Speaker 1: he's a friend, and we all think it's like funny

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Speaker 1: and ridiculous how often Nick takes off his shirt. I

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Speaker 1: think he even thinks it's ridiculous. What really gets under

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Speaker 1: my skin is when you have a significant other and

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Speaker 1: you're posting those pictures knowing the comments and what you're

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Speaker 1: doing to everybody out there, It's it's a lot, so wait,

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Speaker 1: what are they doing to everyone out there? Is a trap?

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Speaker 1: It's a thirst trap. It's making me envious, It's making

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Speaker 1: me and probably others mad, It's making people kind of

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Speaker 1: probably think some some very uh interesting thoughts. I don't

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Speaker 1: love it. I don't I've never understood it. Um And

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Speaker 1: I think it takes a lot of confidence, which hey,

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Speaker 1: if you've got the abs, maybe maybe it changes things.

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Speaker 1: And I just don't. Um, But wouldn't you think would

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Speaker 1: be weird if Jared every let's say, once a every

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Speaker 1: three weeks posted a picture shirtless on Instagram, it would

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Speaker 1: be weirds As we're married. And I want to go

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Speaker 1: back and defend Nick for a second. I think Nick

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Speaker 1: He's like, ha, ha, isn't it funny that I'm posting

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Speaker 1: other shirtless pick? What about Tyler Cameron who literally doesn't

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Speaker 1: I I look at it and I'm like, I can't

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Speaker 1: Like that's not like I'm not a dude wanting to

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Speaker 1: follow a dude who takes off a bunch of his

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Speaker 1: pictures with his shirt off all the time. It's not

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Speaker 1: so here's the reason my shirt off today. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll reveal something silly about myself. I went

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Speaker 1: was working on the driveway and then Jessica's brother wanted

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Speaker 1: a haircut, so I cut his hair. So I took

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Speaker 1: And then I was sweaty from my run. I was like,

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Speaker 1: But also, I'm just feeling good today. I had a

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Speaker 1: good call. I'll close it here. I had a good

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Speaker 1: call today. Already, it's been a rough couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: I've talked about it. We don't need to talk about anymore.

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Speaker 1: But um I had a call today with a group

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Speaker 1: of people from Generous, the Generous Ambassadors, and they all

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Speaker 1: shared stories. There's forty of them, of stories of good

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Speaker 1: wearing my underwear around the house, like my men's underwear,

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Speaker 1: around my mom my, sister and Jared, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: the next day I did again. But the reason was

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Speaker 1: so I said, I'll put pants on what I'm done

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Speaker 1: cleaning that Ashley. This is This summarizes quarantining with your

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Speaker 1: family in one story. Things are a change in, but

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Speaker 1: things are not a change in. Here we're back for

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Speaker 1: another week of the Almost Famous podcast. If you listen,

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Speaker 1: and if you appreciate this podcast whatsoever, please go to

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Speaker 1: on our podcast. Things aren't changing here, Ashley. It's been

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Speaker 1: awesome talking to you week O a week, and I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, Bachelor Nation hasn't slowed down, not at all.

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Speaker 1: It's unreal. It's crazy. So we have some hot topics

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Speaker 1: gonna break down this week's episode of Listened to Your Heart.

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Speaker 1: I've said it last week that I thought the show

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Speaker 1: excited to hear your thoughts in just a few minutes

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Speaker 1: because I know that you've stayed very engaged. But before

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Speaker 1: we're gonna break down the hot topics in Bachelor Nation.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on the Almost Face podcast and we're

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Speaker 1: back on the Almost Says podcasts, and we are here

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Speaker 1: to do hot topics. Ben The first hot topic is

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Speaker 1: what does ABC to air Bachelor best of series in

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Speaker 1: bit so in the replace of The Bachelorette, they're going

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Speaker 1: the most unforgettable ever. It's gonna start airing on June eighth,

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Speaker 1: This is why The New York Post is reporting Chris

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Speaker 1: what's what always what these specials always make me think of,

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Speaker 1: many moments that are truly pretty forgettable are they gonna air?

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Speaker 1: I think I've recently told you this, but your sex

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Speaker 1: And I I mean, like Ben, it sounds really awkward,

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Speaker 1: this craziness. Ashley, What is it for you? What moments

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Speaker 1: believe I'm doing this well, but Ashley, I really, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I said to the podcast, I was saying it. Last

427
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: week I watched this and I was like, hey, I

428
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: don't know if this show has any legs, Like I

429
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: really don't. Okay, I just want to say I'm still

430
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: enjoying it. Yeah, I just think that Chris thinks it's silly.

431
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: But this week I watched it and I was I felt,

432
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: I felt more into it, and I'm gonna tell you why.

433
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: But let's set up the story first. Chris Harrison comes

434
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: in and makes announcement that the couples are going to

435
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: go on dates with other contestants that are not in

436
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: a relationship with These can be friendly dates, these can

437
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: be romantic dates if you want them to be. I

438
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: believe it was a way for the show to cultivate

439
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: um not only a little bit of drama, but also

440
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: forcing people out of their comfort zones because people kind

441
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: of coupled up very quickly. Yeah. So we see that

442
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: Jamie and Ryan are set up on a date, which

443
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: I was excited about because they had an early connection.

444
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: So I thought, you know, let's see if putting them

445
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: in a more romantic atmosphere will uh fire that up again,

446
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: and then Ris and Rudy go on a date because

447
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 1: I think they wanted to see whether Rudy's man Matt

448
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: at home would start farding flarding with anybody else. But

449
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: I really think that the reason these dates were derived

450
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: was because of Julia and Brandon and their love square

451
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: sort of kind of with Sheridan and Savannah, and they

452
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: really just wanted to put Julia and Brandon in a

453
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: situation where they would feel that romantic spark again so

454
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: that the drama would go down in the house here.

455
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: So and I don't mind this idea. Actually think it

456
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: was interesting television. I thought. I don't think it was

457
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: insanely unhealthy, because as we saw, you know, Jamie and

458
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: Ryan did just have a friendship, and it's actually really

459
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: fun to see them just bond over their history and

460
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: how much they appreciate each other. Also think that they

461
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: wanted to test Natasha back at home because she never

462
00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: really explored any relationships with anybody else. And Chris and Rudy,

463
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, at this point, it just proved how much

464
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: Chris is in debris and how you know, Rudy is

465
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: in the Matt and that and that is going well

466
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: so that was interesting. Now that Julian Brandon thing, I

467
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: have an issue because Sheridan has been kind and considered

468
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 1: this whole time, he obviously has put his focus on Julia.

469
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: I feel like Julie up to this point has I mean,

470
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: watching this, I'm still shocked at how quickly she all

471
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden became all about Sheridan, because I felt

472
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: like the whole time she was always questioning her feelings

473
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: towards him, and for the first time ever, it became

474
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: very very present to me watching it, like Julie doesn't know,

475
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: she knows what she wants, but it's definitely not shared

476
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: in no no, I feel like I've known the entire

477
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: time she was like sharedon is the the safe choice

478
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: that God that's always gonna want me? And because he's

479
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: so safe, I'm just gonna play around a little bit

480
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: with Brandon now. I definitely think watching their date and

481
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: their plan in the car sort of that the plan

482
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: was to break up with Sheridan and with Savannah, and

483
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: it seemed like he was breaking up with Savannah until

484
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: he looked like he was a picking a fight with her,

485
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: and then he said, uh, if you want what the

486
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: heck was that situation Ben with with Brandon and actually

487
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: this is uh so let's pause here, let's get our

488
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: let's get our clarity back. I want to ask the listeners, Uh,

489
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: what do you think about this whole situation? Are you

490
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: enjoying this show? Uh? Comment? Uh? Email us at been

491
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: an Ashley, iHeart media dot com or hashtag and the

492
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: almost famous podcast on Twitter or read it. Okay, So,

493
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: as we grouped together here, um, we're focusing on Julianne Brandon.

494
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: They had a date that there obviously wasn't interest in

495
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: each other. I don't think we've been proven. I don't

496
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: think any of us assumed to this point that either

497
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: of them were going to be focused on the person

498
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: that they left back at the house. So we thought

499
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: this could get dangerous. It definitely got dangerous. It very

500
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: quickly became oh, no, Savannah and Shared are gonna think

501
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: the brunt of this. And I personally was hurting for

502
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: Sheridan and Savannah as they drove in the car back.

503
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: I I felt like this, but the and and they

504
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: breakups and feel and recognizing who you want to be

505
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: with is not a bad thing. It happens all the

506
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: time on the show, and even though it hurts, it's okay. However, Ashley,

507
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: what got me is how they both handled these conversations

508
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: once they got back to the house. So you have

509
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: to tell me what the kids are calling it these days.

510
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: But they both very quickly started to place blame on,

511
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, the victim, the person

512
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: getting broken up with. They they both made me cringe

513
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: at how quickly they're like, why are you mad at me?

514
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: Why are you acting like? Why are you walking away

515
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: from this conversation? And why are you being so mean?

516
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: Of course should be mean you're getting broken up with? Yeah,

517
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: of course that was like very weird of her to

518
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: respond to Sheridan with It's like, why am I giving attitude? Because, yeah,

519
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: you're you don't like me as much, so I think

520
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: that I don't have to be super nice to you

521
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 1: right now. But and you promised me that you were

522
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: going to do this. Yeah, that's that too. But then

523
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: I guess at least Julia said I don't think I'm

524
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: going to be able to get there with you that. Yeah,

525
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm okay, That's what I'm saying. Like that's good. But

526
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: what Brandon did trying to like sort he didn't was

527
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: he breaking up with Savannah or did he have a

528
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: totally different mentality and then Julia did walking into that house.

529
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: Was he actually not sure or did he want Savannah

530
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: to just kind of like leave and he was going

531
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: to make it as sloppy as possible so that he

532
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: didn't have to formally dump her and she would just

533
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: decide to leave on her own. He I think he

534
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: wanted everything. I think he also couldn't take responsibility for

535
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: the decisions he had already made. I think he didn't

536
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: want to feel guilty for ending a relationship. I honestly

537
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: think Brandon was running away from conflict. I really disliked

538
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: this moment because, well, what sure, and I think a

539
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: lot of people feel that way. I don't think Julian

540
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: Brandon handled us it. Well what do you call it?

541
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: When you is? Is that that's not gaslighting? Right? But

542
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: like when you when you like flip the switch and all,

543
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: you're the one delivering bad news, but you manipulate it

544
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: to make the other person, yeah, to feel guilty about

545
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: it like that? That was not okay and it really

546
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: angered me because you know, I think Savannah was like, whatever,

547
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: this is not right for me. I'm just gonna go

548
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: home and like, I know, I'm gonna be fine. I'm

549
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: super talented. I'm gonna pick my self back up. Um,

550
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: she's hurting because of another field shared in though I

551
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: think this hit him deep, Like this is a real emotion.

552
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: Sharedan is the sweetest. You can feel his kind soul

553
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: emit through the television. He's so nice, so rutable. You

554
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: can tell the kind of relationship we had with everybody

555
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: in the house. Um, you know, Savannah deserves better, and

556
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: I truly think that Sharedon deserves better. And I know

557
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: that everybody's always so sad when they're leaving the Bachelor

558
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: mansion and it's like a self pity party. But but

559
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: the experience that you get will ultimately help you find

560
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: the person that you're meant to be with. And he's

561
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: meant to be with somebody both of them that respect

562
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: them far more than Julia and Brandon did, and our

563
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: context cluses fans are this. Brandon Julie walked back into

564
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: the mansion after their date. Brandon says, Hey, we're gonna

565
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: go have really tough conversation, but we're gonna come back

566
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: together and this will all be okay. So the assumption

567
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: is they're both in the same page that they're gonna

568
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: end there current relationships and get back together. Well, this

569
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: takes us to a point where that happened, you know,

570
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: even though we don't love how it happened, it happened.

571
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: Relationships moved on. Julian Brandon come back together. They both

572
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: are hurting a little bit from this. And this is

573
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 1: where things get really weird now and and I think

574
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: it's a good question for audience, whose side are you on?

575
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: But there's a question asked to Brandon that's that says, Hey,

576
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: if Savannah would have said I want to fight for this,

577
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: would you have said yes? And he mouse right in

578
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: front of Julie even though she can't hear it. Yes,

579
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: I would have said yes to Savannah. That's where things

580
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: get weird. Actually, what happens from there so so weird.

581
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm so confused by him. I don't think that he

582
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: really has strong feelings for either woman, so he's just

583
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: gonna flip flop back and forth. He's a total player.

584
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: And um, so what happens from there is that Natasha,

585
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: backstage before they're about to perform at the Novo in

586
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: l A, tells Julia that Brandon said that he would

587
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: have kept Savannah if she really wanted to fight for it,

588
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: and then Julia gets very piste off that she would

589
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: offer up this information so close to their performance time

590
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: because it's obviously going to throw off their chemistry. Then

591
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: Julia goes to Brandon's room and he says, I didn't

592
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: definitively say that I was gonna choose Savannah if she

593
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: was going to fight for it, And you can just

594
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: tell in that moment that Julia was like, oh, not definitive,

595
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: but it was something on your mind. So you definitely

596
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: didn't stick to the plan that we had coming home

597
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: from our date. You still had feelings for maybe both

598
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: of us. Nothing frustrated me more, Ashley. And maybe it's

599
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: because I liked wh like this episode. I was so

600
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: into these moments. I was like, you, guys, this is

601
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: causing so much damage and so much pain to the

602
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: people around you. Brandon, the way that you're like looking

603
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: at Savannah during this breakup and the way that you're

604
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: uh like kind of lying still to Julia and you

605
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: can't decide what you want makes me, makes me angry,

606
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: makes me mad, And hey, I haven't honestly invested any

607
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: emotion into the show until this point. So I don't

608
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: know what that says about me, but do you know, Okay,

609
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: so obviously I feel like Natasha had poor timing there.

610
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: She had very um she had timing that was going

611
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: to strike up a lot of drama. I'm assuming that

612
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: the timing wasn't necessarily uh something that she came up

613
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: with the I think that she was probably you know,

614
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 1: said you know, I think there was like a little

615
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: manipulation into that topic being brought up backstage at the performances.

616
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: But I also don't think that like Julia should have

617
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: hid that information. I just think that she said it

618
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: at a bad time for Julia. What do you think? Yeah,

619
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: I mean Natasha said it, and if she was trying

620
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: to sabotage a performance, well she did it. She did it,

621
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: and it worked. And I guess at the end of this,

622
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, people call it a game, people call called

623
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: a contest, and this, more than The Bachelor, definitely feels

624
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: like a contest in Natasha, Well she won the battle. Now,

625
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: before we get into the performances at the Novo um,

626
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: let's take one more break. Actually, when we come back,

627
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna break down the performances at the Novo. So cool.

628
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: So then it's time for showtime. Chris Harrison announces that

629
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: the performers are going to be performing at the Novo

630
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: in front of celebrities, people from Bachelor Nation and singers.

631
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: So we got Rachel, Lindsay and Brian. We got Andy

632
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: Grammar and Tony Braxon huge names, but yeah, yeah, totally.

633
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: So how did you feel about the fact that Brian

634
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: didn't didn't show Brian speaking at all? Every time Chris

635
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: Harrison went to Rachel and Brian, she spoke on behalf

636
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: of them on air. From what even notice that I'd

637
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: even notice that, No, but now I do. I remember.

638
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: I think I think the only time we saw Brian

639
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: was when he walked down, and I think he whispered

640
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: in somebody's ear, like maybe Tony Braxon's like, yeah, she's

641
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: nervous something. The only thing I think we heard from him,

642
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: which is kind of sad. I felt bad. Brian just

643
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: doesn't like the guy, has never like he had He

644
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: was overshattered by Peter obviously during that season, and then

645
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: you know they get married and like people want to

646
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: celebrate them, but we just don't. Like Brian just is

647
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: never like it's not like if anybody knows him yet,

648
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: nobody knows Brian. He's like the only final one that

649
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: people can't say that they know. So first up in

650
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: the performances is Rudy and Matt and they sing Tennessee Whiskey.

651
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: They do a great job. They sounded so good together.

652
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: I felt the chemistry. Rachel and Brian loved their performance,

653
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: and they loved the way that they embraced and kissed afterward. Um,

654
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: I feel like it just was overall good. I mean,

655
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: I guess I wasn't blown I was. I was like, yeah,

656
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: like I would have been so into that in real life, right,

657
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: But like, I guess I wasn't blown away the way

658
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: I am later in the episode what About You Now,

659
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: I was more blown away with Tony Brackson's uh common

660
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: of play that guitar like you're playing her And I'm

661
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: kinda with her when she said like I want to

662
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: watch a performance a duet and be uncomfortable, like I

663
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: want to be in my chair being like I shouldn't

664
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: be watching this because it's so romantic, and and they

665
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: kind of had that Like I think as much as

666
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: I mean, Nan, Tasha and Ryan kind of had that too,

667
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: but like they definitely you could sense that they really

668
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: are into each other. Um, which is cool to see. Yeah,

669
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: I love that. I love their performance. So then Jamie

670
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: and Trevor went and they sang like I'm Gonna Lose You,

671
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: and the judges thought that they were a little off.

672
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: It seemed like Jamie was really nervous, especially the first half,

673
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: as um as um Andy Grammar pointed out, and yeah,

674
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: it seemed like she was nervous. Um. I think that

675
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: kind of nerves is probably going to be more evident

676
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: to the people who are watching in person than us

677
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: watching on TV. Does that make sense? Do you think that? Yeah?

678
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I mean again, I watched it,

679
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know what musical talent is, Like,

680
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: they all sound good to me. I don't know if

681
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: she like, she sounded great so much better than I would.

682
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: So I was only picking up on that because I

683
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: think there was this you know, unlike um, Rudy and Matt,

684
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: she had her hand on the whole time, and it

685
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: looked comfortable to have it, like I want to touch

686
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: you and sing with you and know you're there. When uh,

687
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: when Jamie would do that it would almost just feel

688
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: like a little uncomfortable, like neither one. She wants it,

689
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: but he kept backing away. So that was my only

690
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: sign up. I feel like Jamie's still twenty one. I

691
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: still feel like she's getting to know herself and getting

692
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: comfortable in her own skin. I don't know if it's

693
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: just a performance thing. I think it's just an overall

694
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: human thing. It could be, but she wants it. She

695
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: wants it so bad. Next up was Chris and Brie

696
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: and they sang Taylor Swift's lover. Tony Braxon loved the performance.

697
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: She says she really saw a connection. You know, there

698
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: was definitely chemistry between them. They sound great together. That's

699
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: all I want to say. Yeah, I would agree. Um,

700
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: they they're just two people. They're consistent. But there are

701
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: two people that I'm watched in the show that I say,

702
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: this is beautiful, Like I think this could work out

703
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: long term. And this is what keeps me coming back

704
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: to being a fan of the show is watching these

705
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: two just sing together and relate with each other is

706
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: really a beautiful thing to be on TV. They teased

707
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: them getting married in Vegas next week, and you know what,

708
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: why not? I think they might m why not. The

709
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: biggest part of their performance was, of course her admitting

710
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: that after it she whispered I love you, and then

711
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: she told the whole audience what she said and that

712
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: he didn't hear it, and then of course he said,

713
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: if I had heard that, I would have said the

714
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: same thing back to you, and they kind of exchange

715
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: I love to use backstage afterwards. Very very sweet. Um.

716
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: Julian Brandon are up next and they sang Pat Benatar's

717
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: Amazing ballot We Belong Together. Rachel felt that they were

718
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: a newer couple and she was glad that they admitted

719
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: that because she felt like it was kind of like

720
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: a karaoke performance. And Tony said that she felt tension.

721
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: I felt tension. I felt like his body language was

722
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: so off from her and she was completely turned in

723
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: to him and she was trying to connect with him,

724
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: but he is just like I'm performing for the audience.

725
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: Now you. I watched this and I missed Brandon and

726
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: Savannah because I felt like they did have a connection.

727
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: Now was it a healthy one? I can't say, but

728
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't like Julian Brandon just didn't like it was

729
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: so it was like hard Jamie. It was not hard

730
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: for me to watch Julia and Brandon hard for me

731
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: to get through because it just it felt so weird.

732
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: He just didn't seem into her. H is rough. And

733
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: then there was the performance of the night you love

734
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: that you love this guy? Oh my god, it's amazing.

735
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: Ryan and Natasha saying the best thing that ever had.

736
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: You are the best thing that ever happened, And it

737
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: was hot. They are so equally talented, like he has

738
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: this amazing, amazing tone to his voice and she has

739
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: pipes and strength and they they don't I don't think

740
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: have chemistry off the stage, but damn is an electric

741
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: on the stage. I could watch them before all day long,

742
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: and I'm good with that. Like I think watching the show,

743
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: I watch it because I want to see connection on stage.

744
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: Just listen to your heart, right, if love happens with

745
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: Chris and Bree amazing, how beautiful. But if you can

746
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: and this is the wrong term, but like if you

747
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: could fake it on stage similar to Bradley Cooper, uh

748
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: and uh you know they like that's beautiful and it

749
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: makes us intrigued and it's fun to see and and

750
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: so Ryan Natasha definitely have that um here's a cool part.

751
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: Last week, and I thought it was true. The judges

752
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: said Ryan, Natasha could overpower you, like she could run

753
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: you out of this room. Ryan stood up to it.

754
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: This week they were equally as great. I completely completely agree.

755
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: They have different voices, but the way that they work

756
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: together is so amazing, and I think you're right for them.

757
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: It's about performance. They're kind of singing and acting at

758
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: the same time. They know that give a friendship and

759
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: like they're probably attracted to each other, but there's not

760
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: some great romance there. But for us as viewers, it

761
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: doesn't matter when they're on stage, not at all, not

762
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: at all. Well, that leads us all up. There's a

763
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: performances that leads up to the road ceremony where the

764
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: judges have the power. Brie and Chris stay not a surprise,

765
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: Matt and Rudy stay, not a surprise. Natasha and Ryan stay.

766
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: Their performance was incredible, but it was down to Trevor, Jamie,

767
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: Julia and Brandon and the judges I think made the

768
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: right decision. Actually do you. I was actually surprised that

769
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: the drama was sent home. So next week, I think

770
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna be concentrating more on actual connection and performance chemistry. Julia,

771
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean Brandon. Brandon doesn't care about any of this.

772
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: He's so nonchalant. And Julia, she was the drama queen

773
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: of the house, so it was kind of like, all right,

774
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: let's let's get rid of this and concentrate on the

775
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: important stuff. Next week, Julian Brandon are sent home, and

776
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: the drama doesn't stop there. Julia's exit starts to bring

777
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: up how mad she was at Brandon, how disconnected he was,

778
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: and how she wishes she would have chose Shardan. Now

779
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm all confused, and in fact, I'm so confused, I'm

780
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 1: just saying I'm I'm happy to go on to next

781
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 1: week because I don't think I can take another week

782
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: of the going as back and forth as much as

783
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: we had. It always takes being screwed over from by

784
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: a bad guy to appreciate the good guy that you had.

785
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: You never know what it's what you had until it's gone.

786
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: I think that's a song at some point. It's a

787
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: Nick Jonas sung song, Do Know what You Got? Deal?

788
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: It's good? I don't I think there was like I

789
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: think I'm thinking like an oldies song too. I think

790
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, ash Um, Well, that was this week's

791
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: Listen to Your Heart. Uh, it was a a better

792
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: performance for me. I'm going to grade it this week

793
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: on a scale of what we expect, a B plus good.

794
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: I write it a B plus as well, and I'm intrigued.

795
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch next week, excited to watch. I'm not

796
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: gonna be dreading it. Um, it's actually it's it feels

797
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: like these couples have some potential, Ashley. Uh, let's bring

798
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: on Bree to break down this week's episode a little

799
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: bit further. But also, I mean, what do you think, like,

800
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: just really focus on Brie and Chris because their relationship

801
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 1: is beautiful. I agree, and like I like I said

802
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: to Brie, I think it's going to come down to

803
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: their real life love versus the passion that we feel

804
00:46:53,440 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: between Ryan and Natasha on stage. Let's bring in brief Ye,

805
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: so I's promised we have one of Bachelor nations favorite

806
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: Listen to Your Heart contestants, Brie is here with us

807
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: on the Almost Famous podcast. Hey Bree, Hey, how's it going?

808
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: Really good? Brie? I got a burning question for you.

809
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: It seems in this episode that we're going to narrow

810
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: this season down till there is one couple standing. Is

811
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: this couple going to be there standing at as the

812
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 1: last couple in the end because of love or because

813
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: of their performance passion together? Mm hmm. So it's definitely

814
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit of both their chemistry

815
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: on stage as well as their chemistry UM in their relationship,

816
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: So it's equally judged on both. I'd say, can I

817
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: make a prediction as to who's standing in the end? Yes? Man,

818
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna come down to you and Chris

819
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: and Natasha and Ryan. I feel I like that prediction.

820
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: I feel like you and Chris definitely have the genuine love,

821
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: and I feel like Natasha and Ryan have a talent

822
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: and performance that they really mend melt together. Natasha and

823
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: Ryan are very very hot on stage. There's no denying

824
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: that they're quite a duo. Bree. Let's start at the

825
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: beginning here. What was this a whole experience like for you?

826
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: Listen to your heart. The experience for me was everything. Um.

827
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: You know, I have performed a lot in the past,

828
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: but never with someone that I genuinely love. Um. I've

829
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: performed with other musicians and stuff, but for the most part,

830
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: it's just been me. So it's a really interesting experience

831
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: to you know, not be given a lot of time

832
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: to be super prepared and then just to be on

833
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: stage with a partner and um having to you know,

834
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: impress the judges while also communicating chemistry that you know

835
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: is there but hoping they receive it. Well. So there

836
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: were just a million things going on in my head

837
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: the entire time. Um, so it's really fun to look

838
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: back and see how it was communicated now that I'm

839
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: watching it. We saw you guys totally. If all I'm

840
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: going to say you kind of like fell in love

841
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: during that scene at the Guitar Center on Sunset, is

842
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: that you feel like that was the moment you started

843
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: to fall Yes, definitely. Guitar Center will always have the

844
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: most special place in my heart because, um, you know,

845
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things where the I can't

846
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: we forgot the cameras and everything. It was just us,

847
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: um and when we were playing Calpfall and and Love

848
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: by Elvis on the piano, it it was just such

849
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: a moving moment, as stupid as that sounds, but the

850
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: feeling was just incredible and something I've never experienced before.

851
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: And there's just no denying that. That's the moment when

852
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: I started to fall in love with him and um

853
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: and him as well with me. What was it initially

854
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: about Chris that stood out to you? Chris has the

855
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: most genuine, open energy that I've ever seen in anyone.

856
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: Like when we first met, you know, he he just

857
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: came right up to me, UM in a very non

858
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: aggressive way, UM, and introduced himself and then kind of

859
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: like backed off because there were other guys talking to me, UM.

860
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: And then as like the night progressed. Um. He I

861
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: just noticed that when he would walk in the room

862
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: and things would get brighter and people would kind of

863
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: flocked toward him, and he could just bring up best

864
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: in people and would start to see music that really

865
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: united all of us. So it's just his open energy

866
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: that he gives off. It's very genuine. In this episode,

867
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: we see that you say I love you to him

868
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: for the first time in front of a live audience

869
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: on stage, and it just slipped out. How did you

870
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: feel what that just popped out of your mouth? Honestly,

871
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: I feel like a stupid school girl that's like so giddy.

872
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: I it was just ridiculous, But again, Um, it was

873
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: natural everything's just been so natural with him. So usually

874
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: when I perform, you know, I have family come that

875
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: supports me, and so I have that like that comfort,

876
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: but being on stage with him, um, he's the only

877
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: comfort that I had because we didn't you know, know anyone,

878
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: and it was just really it was a lot. And

879
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: so for me to naturally hug him after and say

880
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: I love you, there's no forcing that. And it just

881
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: showed me how, um how William I am to give

882
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: him my heart and to feel like I can trust him.

883
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: And this is a big moment for you because as

884
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: we learned early on this season, it's been a storyline throughout. Uh.

885
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 1: One of the moments that I think most affected everybody

886
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: that's watching the show is you admitted and kind of

887
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: opened up about being previously engaged and during what I remember,

888
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: right when you picked out your wedding dress, your fiance

889
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: at the time had called you and said, hey, this

890
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: is over. I know when Jess and I were watching this,

891
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: we both know we just recently got engaged and we

892
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: were watching this and just like her mouth was like

893
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: on the floor, like just hurting for you. Yeah, that

894
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: experience was really difficult, just because, um, you know, it

895
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: was very traumatic for me, just because I had physically

896
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: picked out the dress. It wasn't it was making it real,

897
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so when you're wearing it,

898
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: you envisioned your dad there and your mom, and um,

899
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: it just kind of becomes it's very it just it's

900
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: brought to lie and so um to have that kind

901
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: of just taken from you, it caused a lot of, um,

902
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: you know, deep pain and so it's been hard to

903
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: to trust again because I never expected him to do that.

904
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: So you know, when you get in the next relationship,

905
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: you're like, well, I hope you don't do this, but

906
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: I never expected this guy to do it. Um. So

907
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: with with Chris, you know, it's just been very natural

908
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: and I haven't had the same kinds of fears that

909
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: I've always had. And yeah, I know that he wouldn't

910
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: ever do anything like that to me. So Ben has

911
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: been talking throughout the season about how he can't relate

912
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: to the impasity the intimacy of writing songs and performing

913
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: songs together. Can you enlighten us no musicians how that feels. Yes, So,

914
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: first of all, with our guitar sturd day and our

915
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: freestyle and It was definitely rough because we hardly knew

916
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: each other, Like, let's just bury that, Okay, let's just

917
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: forget about it. Um. It really was so fun. But

918
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't we just we just met and

919
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: so we were like trying to figure out our musical

920
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: chemistry because we haven't really like sung together. But honestly,

921
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 1: it comes very quickly and easy when you just both

922
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: put yourself out there, your vulnerable. Um. It's a really

923
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: amazing process when you both do that, because you get

924
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: to places that you never would have gone through words,

925
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: because music just brings this other element that you know,

926
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: no one can deny, like it's music is very truthful, um,

927
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: and so it really brought us together way. I feel

928
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: like we've like skipped ahead of year in our relationship,

929
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean at this point, because um,

930
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: because music just does that. I Astley's right, And a

931
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: lot of this show I am watching now from a

932
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: perspective of, Hey, I can't relate at all except for

933
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: the pursuit of love piece. You know you singing in

934
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: front of people would make me have hives, or me

935
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: singing in people make me have hives? Literally breathe, What

936
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: was it about going on listen to your heart that

937
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: you were interested in. Was it love or was it

938
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: to increase your musical kind of exposure, which would be

939
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: fair too. Um, you know it was definitely both. Because

940
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm a musician, I think naturally we're always trying to

941
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: be like, you know what's next, looking further our careers.

942
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: Oh cool, this is a great opportunity. Why wouldn't I

943
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: do it? But I wasn't going to go into it

944
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: if I wasn't truly open to finding love. Um, I

945
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: can't say I totally believed in it, and I didn't

946
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: think that it would happen to someone like me. Um.

947
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: But you know when I was deciding, and I was

948
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: just like, you literally nothing to lose, um, love and

949
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: music or everything you've ever wanted, So you'd be an

950
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: idiot not to So obviously I'm very thankful that I

951
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: just went with my gut and and went with it.

952
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: Next week, we see that you guys bring the show

953
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: on the road and you'll be you'll be sharing a

954
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: tour bus with Chris. Does that change? How does that

955
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: change the couples? Because I feel like given that more

956
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: private time, that quality time, you guys are gonna learn

957
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: more about each other and you're the dynamic of living together. Yeah,

958
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: I'm really excited for that because, um, you know, they

959
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: always say, like, go on a road trip with whoever

960
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: you're interested in, do this, do that, So it's it's

961
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: definitely a next big step. UM. And then just getting

962
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: that one on one time is something that we haven't

963
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: had a lot of because we're in a house with

964
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people. So I'm just really excited for

965
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: that time to just be able to focus on us

966
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: the breed. This all kind of summarizes here at the

967
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 1: end with um hopefully a great love story and also

968
00:56:55,080 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: a great opportunity to further your music career. Looking back

969
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: at it all, was it worth it? You don't have

970
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 1: to give us any hints any ideas of what this meant,

971
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: but just for you, sitting where you're at now, was

972
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: this worth it? Definitely worth it. I I would never

973
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: want to go back to the life that I had before. UM.

974
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: I wanted all to be what it is right now,

975
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: and yes, it was a thousand times worth it. You

976
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: and Chris seemed to be unbreakable at this point in

977
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: the competition, and I'm going to assume right now that

978
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: if you don't win the show. You're still together? Am

979
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: I right? I guess we'll have to see. Okay, okay,

980
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: So we've talked a lot about your love story. It's great,

981
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: we're huge fans of it. Um, it's keeping me going

982
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: during this show. But can we just take a second

983
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: and what was it like being in the house with

984
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: the drama that ensued this week between Brandon and Savannah

985
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: and Sheridan and Julia. Was it Was it as wild

986
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: as it seems? Yes, the drama is definitely as wild

987
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: as it seems. Um, as much as Chris and I,

988
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: you know, have tried to stay out of it, Um,

989
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: there's an energy there and me and him are both

990
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: big feelers. We feel for people, and so it's been

991
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: really heavy and definitely, you know, you take stress into

992
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: um relationships and performances and you hope that you can

993
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: just do your best because we all kind of are

994
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: a family living together. So yeah, it's been challenging, but

995
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: it's definitely there. I felt like it. Mm hmm, alright,

996
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: well I can't take it. Thank you Bree so much

997
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: for joining us today. We're rooting for you and Chris

998
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: in real life and on all the show. That's right,

999
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: Thank you answering. Thank you. You guys are great. Have

1000
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: a great day. Al right, guys. So we got one

1001
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: email about the Matt James versus Claire drama that we

1002
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: addressed during last week's Hot Topics. This is from Amy.

1003
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: She says, I had a thought on the drama of

1004
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: Matt James. My feelings about it are that it came

1005
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: across like Claire is assuming that Matt James is going

1006
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: on her show to get famous as a result of

1007
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: being a contestant on the Bachelorette, when in reality, he's

1008
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: famous already because he is friends with Tyler and everyone

1009
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: who is following the Quarantine crew. I feel like more

1010
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: people know more about Matt than I know about Claire.

1011
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: What do you think? I certainly don't agree, Amy, um My.

1012
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: My thoughts are that Matt maybe famous amongst uh gen

1013
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: z gen z right. Matt maybe famous to TikTok watchers

1014
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: and people who follow Tyler and his group of friends

1015
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: very closely on social media. I feel like Claire is

1016
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: far more famous amongst the nation Bachelor nation. I feel

1017
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: like what we've gotten to know about Claire over four

1018
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: seasons of televised programming is more than you guys are

1019
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: seeing from the quarantine crew house about Matt. You are

1020
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: getting to see from Matt what he wants to put

1021
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: out there for you guys. And Claire has had a

1022
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: whole bunch of things that she probably wishes she could

1023
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: edit it out be broadcast on national TV. I also

1024
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't call him famous. I'd call him um a social

1025
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: media personality right now. I I think it's weird to

1026
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: call anybody from pass Nation famous. And I think that

1027
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: I would repeat with what you're staying here by saying

1028
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: Matt going on an ABC prime time show is just

1029
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: gonna make him more famous than he is going to

1030
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: be from social media. Yeah. So even if you think

1031
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: he already is famous, I don't think that he is.

1032
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: I think that there's always ways for him to be

1033
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: more famous. Yeah, I mean I think now, maybe as

1034
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 1: we sit you could have the argument who's better known

1035
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: if that's how we're gonna do it, And maybe Matt

1036
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: James right now is better known, but let's not forget

1037
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he's better known. I feel like Claire

1038
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: Crawley is going to explode here when she becomes a

1039
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: Bachelorrette like she'll go from zero to a hundred in

1040
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 1: terms of a recognized person personality very soon. So yeah,

1041
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: being on an ABC show always helps your relevancy. Being

1042
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: on AB show definitely helps the attention come to you more.

1043
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: So if we're defining who's more known, I really think

1044
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: that it Claire very soon will be one of the

1045
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: most recognized people in the use. Don't you think it's

1046
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: a generational thing because like, yeah, like millennials, probably no

1047
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: Claire More and then gen Z who was like the

1048
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: newcomers on TikTok People below the age of two, they

1049
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: probably know Matt More. Hey, I'm on TikTok to and

1050
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying hard actually and I'm thirty one. Hey, uh,

1051
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: this has been another awesome episode of the Almost Famous podcast.

1052
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: We really do appreciate all of you listening. It's been

1053
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: a blast, uh talking to you through this shutdown. Again,

1054
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:23,800
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1055
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,920
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1056
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1057
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:38,160
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1058
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,720
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1059
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:46,680
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