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Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling railvalry. No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth revely. That's good. Hey, Siri,

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Speaker 1: do you have any siblings. I don't have a family tree,

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Speaker 1: but I have a pretty great file directory. Oh that's

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Speaker 1: really sad, Siri. Hey Siri, do you have a brother?

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Speaker 1: I don't have a family the way a person would.

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Speaker 1: Are you sad? If you're good? I'm good. So you're

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Speaker 1: Is there something else I can help with? No, she's like,

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Speaker 1: leave me alone. We don't know how to respond to that.

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Speaker 1: We do a lot of these episodes it's just us

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Speaker 1: and where we talk about whether it be I don't

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Speaker 1: know's it's always been on the holidays, but I felt

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Speaker 1: like it would be a good idea to go through

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Speaker 1: the emails that were sent to us. These are some

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Speaker 1: of the emails that have made us feel just grateful

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Speaker 1: that we're able to reach and touch people to either

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Speaker 1: talk about their relationships with their siblings or want to

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Speaker 1: reach out and have a stronger connection. I like this one.

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Speaker 1: This one's my favorite one, okay, because it says Oliver

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Speaker 1: parentheses and Kate don't say their email, you can say

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Speaker 1: my name is Lindsay. And I find Oliver's position in

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Speaker 1: your sibling relationship extremely relatable. Although I consider myself mildly

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Speaker 1: successful on paper, my successes are most definitely trumped by

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Speaker 1: my younger sister Katie. Oh wow. We're a little over

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Speaker 1: six years of part in age, and she has somehow

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Speaker 1: managed in her shorter life span to accomplish more than me.

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Speaker 1: To illustrate, I'll start with just a basic genetic superiority.

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Speaker 1: I'm five ten in height, the shortest of four siblings.

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Speaker 1: I'm the oldest of all of these tall assholes. Wow,

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Speaker 1: Lindsay's like, I did not expect this to be read

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Speaker 1: I want a picture of these girls. She didn't even

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Speaker 1: have to try. She just grew up and naturally surpassed me.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think your siblings stardom in the entertainment

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Speaker 1: industry is a lot like Katie and I in the

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Speaker 1: athletic world. I played every sport you can imagine growing

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Speaker 1: went on to play D three volleyball and basketball in

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Speaker 1: I thought I had a damn good athletic career dot

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Speaker 1: dot dot all caps wrong. Katie broke every record possible

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Speaker 1: was given a scholarship at Penn State University, Yes, the

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Speaker 1: have several hilarious siblings stories from growing up. One involves

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Speaker 1: We would love the chance to talk to you guys anyway.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the last keep up the good work. We

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Speaker 1: love it best. Lindsay, whatever I can, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: The podcast is something I didn't know I wanted, but

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Speaker 1: I got first billing again Wins Wins, Wins Winds. I

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Speaker 1: a poem I wrote about losing my brother. We were

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Speaker 1: It's a question that's been asked of me by so

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Speaker 1: He said, I'll stop next year. I swear. Don't be scared. Sis.

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Speaker 1: So that, my friends, is the story of why I

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Speaker 1: something so relatable. It's so important, you know, we need

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Speaker 1: Siblings Submissions at gmail, gmail dot com. I read and sad.

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