WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Clearing the Air 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:08.920 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:21.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.800 a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:29.120 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:34.519 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:40.800 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Am bar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.320 It is Wednesday, February tenth, twenty twenty one, Season sixteen, 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.400 episode number ninety seven. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.640 The Break. I'm live from that s WBC Mortgage studios 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:53.680 at the start, and we are presented by Geico got 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.040 Nick here with me in studio. We got David amber 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:59.160 on remotely. We're gonna talk offense today. We've been talking 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:00.960 offense to the last couple of shows, but we're going 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.240 to finish up that offensive review today, talking a little 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.000 bit about the offensive line and the tight end position. 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.200 You'll also get to some fan questions. My hope is 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.760 that we will be able to spend at least at 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:15.080 least an entire segment of the show on fan questions, 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.160 because I know you guys always give me a hard 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.319 time because I usually don't get to questions. But hopefully 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.360 we'll get a chance to do that here and get 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.360 a lot of your questions out there and answer some 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.520 of those questions before we get started today. I quickly 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.360 just wanted to say something. I'm sure those of you 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.720 who are out there listening have seen all the stuff 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.880 about the hype video, and there's been a bunch of 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.800 stuff out there, and I just wanted to say to 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:39.920 you guys that are listening, and this is specifically for 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.600 you guys, because the way I look at it is, 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.760 if you're sitting on this podcast in February, you're the 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.600 people I'm most concerned about, Like you are our core customer, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.200 and you expect greatness from us. And I just wanted 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.120 to say to you, guys, we've felled you in this instance. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.640 We will be better. We apologize, but we certainly will 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.520 be better. And I want you guys to know, because 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.640 I care about what you guys think, that we're going 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.280 to be better. We're going to fix some things and 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.320 we'll be better than this. And that's where I want 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.440 to leave that. I did want to say, though, Nick, 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.360 after last week's show, we had actually an interesting conversation 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.959 on DAK in last week's show. It probably took a 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.240 lot more of the show than we even expected, because 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.399 you had a question that you wanted to throw out there, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.919 and I think after the show, at least what you said, 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:24.880 I saw you put it on Twitter two that you 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:29.240 think people didn't really quite understand or get the full 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.040 brunt of what you were trying to say in your 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:32.679 question and what you were saying after that. I wanted 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:34.000 to give you an opportunity to talk about that, and 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.079 I'm not even sure I didn't understood what I was 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.480 trying to say until later, until some of the Twitter 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.720 I would say arguments, but just kind of the back 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.000 and forth. So a lot of times on this show, 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.160 when when we say certain things, if you don't agree 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.440 with everyone, you get put in a different corner of like, 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.639 well this is this is where your take is. There's 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.480 people that think that I hate Dak, or I'm a 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.320 dad hater or whatever. What I said was is is 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.240 you know, I think that that Dak has room to grow, 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.440 and we all think that way. So I'll just tell 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.200 you right now where I stand, if there's any clarity, 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.080 this is where I stand about Dak Prescott. I think 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.320 he is a really good quarterback. I think the Cowboys 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.840 should resign him. I think for sure that's what they 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.120 need to do. That's their best option for them to win. 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.200 You were at you asked me where a lot of 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.960 people thought was funny. Who's the top five? But who's better? 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.040 That's irrelevant to me. I think he's somewhere between six 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.080 and ten. But it doesn't matter. That's irrelevant. What's irrelevant 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.560 is can the Cowboys? This is my biggest issue more 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.959 than with Dak. Can the Cowboys field a team around 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.359 him with a forty million a year contract? Because when 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.840 he was making two they made one round of the 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.680 playoffs and that was it. Last year thirty one million 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.080 they had where depth was a terrible issue for this team. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.760 Now he's got to make forty million a year. Can 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.520 the pieces around him be better? Can the Cowboys constructed? 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.320 Is he good enough to elevate this team? I only 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.640 think there's three or four people ever that can do that. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.520 So I have my concern if Dak Prescott is good 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.119 enough to elevate this franchise at forty million a year, 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.440 because I haven't seen that they can draft consistently on fans, 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.080 that they can actually do anything in free agency to 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.560 help him. So that is my good concern. Is he 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.000 good enough to take this team up and be even 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.200 more elite? And that's my concern where I want him 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.400 on my team. Yes, I think he's a really good quarterback. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.120 I think he's a fantastic leader, and he's perfect for 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.080 the face of the franchise. But for this particular franchise, 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:20.880 I do have my doubts that they can build a 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.720 team around him. I will say this real quick. The 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.160 only thing I have to say about that is I 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.640 do think that in spite of all that you just said, 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.640 he is their only hope. Like right now, when I 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.800 look at this team and you know, this game comes back. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:36.960 I had a conversation with someone about this whole hype 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.640 video thing, and you know, again, I get it. I 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.640 understand how people are looking at this like how could 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.080 this happen? Because quite frankly, I look at it and 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:45.960 I'm saying the same thing. I'm looking at like how 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.480 did we get here? Because you look at it, and 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.920 to me, there are three things. If you're a Cowboys 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.279 fan and you went through twenty twenty, there are three 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.840 things that could get you potentially excited about twenty twenty. One. 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:03.280 Number one, Lyle Collins number two, Tyren Smith number three, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.159 and I probably should have done him in inverse order 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.200 because he would be number one is Dak Prescott. If 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:12.479 you get those three pieces back, that is where Cowboys 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.320 fans probably look at this and they're like, that's the hope, 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.120 Like that's the hope that twenty twenty one can be better. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:22.040 So whatever the thoughts are about what you gotta pay 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.680 him and all that, look, they got to figure that out. 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.000 And I'm talking about the Cowboys exactly. They gotta figure 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:28.719 out how much they can pay him to make it 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.000 all work. At the end of the day, I look 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.480 at it and say, he is necessary if they want 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.360 to win, and win now, dave you everything you want. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:40.880 Throwing on that a few things, I mean, you know, 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.159 and I don't. I don't want to let us off 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.479 the hook for that mistake completely. I mean, he should 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:47.920 have been in the video. I think we would all 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.440 agree with that. But I just think it speaks to 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.240 the contentious nature of this whole thing that it blew 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.520 up the way that it did. You know, I told 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.720 Nick yesterday, just me and him having a conversation. It 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.320 finds me of political discourse in the sense that like 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.680 you're not allowed to have a middle of the road 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.359 or nuanced take, Like if Dak's not in the video, 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.760 it means we hate Dak and they're trying to move 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.720 on from Dak and YadA YadA, or if Dak is 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.680 the face of the video, that means something too, like 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.760 you can only you can only be a Dak homer 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:20.960 or a Dak hater. There's no room for anything in between. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.440 So I would just love for him to get signed 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.760 so we can kind of put that phase of this 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.160 behind us, because it's I think everybody's tired of it 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.640 one way or the other, but it just is what 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.800 it is. And then I kind of laughed because I 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:41.400 don't necessarily disagree with what Nick just said, but I'm 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.440 just kind of at a point where I'm like, well, 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.400 they couldn't put together a great team when they weren't 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.279 paying Dak anything, so like, I mean, they already tried that, 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.960 They already tried building a team with a cheap quarterback 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.560 and they couldn't do it. So at least in investing 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.599 with Dak, I know what I'm getting, which is a 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.960 really good quarterback. So I'm a lot like I'm like, Wow, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.640 that's okay, because they couldn't do anything with the savings 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.720 the last four years, so why not pay them a 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.360 lot of money. It's fine by me, all right, Amber. 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.520 I know from your reaction on Twitter when Nick put 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.040 that up there that you don't really have any much 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.800 to say about this anymore. You're tired of this conversation, 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.520 and I think you probably you're probably like most people 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.600 out there, like just get a deal done so we 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.760 can move on to other topics, because there are other 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.880 topics around this team that we probably need to address. 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:26.800 So let's jump right in. We're gonna talk a little 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.200 bit about the offensive line and the tight end position 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.080 today in our offense review. We're gonna start first with 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.640 the offensive line, and I mentioned Tyren Smith and Lyle Collins. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.800 My question for you guys to start this conversation is, 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.720 assuming Tyrn and Lyle return at full strength, do you 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.560 expect Dallas's offense to be among the best in the NFL? 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.480 Do they make that much of a difference. Let's start 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:53.280 first with you, Amber. Yeah, yes, but that's just so 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.880 difficult to say, because yes, talent wise, we've seen it 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.720 with these guys, they have been among the best in 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.920 the NFL if not the best in my books in 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.440 my book, but again it comes down to how long 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.640 can they stay on the field, how long can you 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.640 use them for and rely on them. The whole injury 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.880 thing is so unpredictable. But the one thing we've noticed 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.760 is that is a there's a pattern here. It has 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:24.160 been happening every single year there's an online guy that 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.480 gets injured. Mainly, you know, we say it with Lyle, 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.480 we say it definitely with urn Smith and in Sack Martin, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.760 which is one of the best in the league. Even him, 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.520 he has had trouble in the past couple of years 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.439 of staying on the field. So does it really help 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.560 you to have the best guys on your team if 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.560 you can't really have them on the field? I don't 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:49.400 think so. But yes, if they are healthy and they 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.800 are back to their football shape and they're out there, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.920 absolutely I do think that they would be among the 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:00.240 best in the NFL. Dave, I'm about to do my 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:04.840 best Mickey Spagnola impression and say, why don't you go 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:06.600 turn on the tape of the Super Bowl and tell 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.640 me of having your starting tackles makes a difference. And 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.760 I'm you know, I guess I'm a Bucks hater now again, 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.080 like there's no room for nuance, Like everybody thinks I 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.360 hate the Bucks. The Bucks deserve all the credit in 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.160 the world for getting the job done. But go back 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:27.200 to last year and equally fearsome pass rush could not 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.000 make the difference against Pat Mahomes when he had time 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.640 to throw the ball. So miss me with that defense 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.400 wins championships. Crap, give Pat Mahomes as tackles in that game. 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.480 Maybe the Chiefs don't win, but it's definitely not a beatdown. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:43.560 So yes, yes, Lyle Collins and Tyron Smith can make 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.640 that much of a difference. The problem is you just 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.840 can't completely trust that at this point, specifically with Tyron 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.280 more so than Lyell. This is his fifth year of 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.959 having to deal with this. So I hope to hell 0:09:56.080 --> 0:10:00.080 that this surgery really kind of course correct, and I 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.319 won't be surprised at all if Tyrn can play another 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.440 four to six years of healthy football, if this surgery 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.240 did what it's supposed to. But I can't sit here 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.480 in twenty twenty one and be like, yes, he's definitely 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.480 gonna play sixteen games, um, but if he can, hell yeah, 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.400 it'll make a world of difference. And if Dak, Lyle 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.160 and Tyrn are all healthy and playing for this team, 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.320 they will have one of the best offenses in the 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.680 NFL next year. Yes, Nick, Yeah, of course, without a doubt. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.720 I think they will. I think the continuity of Kellen Moore, 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.560 uh and Dak and then in that offensive line. I 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.320 mean I think that when you when you start to see, 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.120 you know, Dak started had he had to figure out 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.960 how to win games without having you know, the Tyron 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.560 Smith all the time or even Lyell and had to 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.960 play some of the games last year. It was tough, 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:48.760 you know, with Terrence Steal, Brandon and I and all 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.960 that stuff. So you get those guys back, and I 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:52.719 think that you know, Das had to learn and to 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.120 play that way and to be better. Uh yeah. And 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.559 I think it'll help Zeke too. And if Zeke is better, 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.640 you know, if they can get out to some leads, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.840 that's that's the key, that's the way they want to play. 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.800 If they can play like that, then I think Zeke 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:06.600 will be better. And I think the Cowboys will be 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.240 better because they're they're playing a different style of football. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:13.400 So here's the million dollar question, how likely in your opinions, 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.480 and I know you may not. Obviously, you guys probably 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:17.640 haven't talked to the doctors or anybody else. But how 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:19.400 likely do you think it is that you're going to 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.280 get both those guys back at full strength this year? 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.880 Nicholas Stark, I do think it's likely. I think what 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.080 Amber said, though, it'll be someone else. I mean, it'll 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:27.760 be something you know, you have to you have to 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.920 be ready for that. You have to have seven or 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.240 eight linemen that you that you feel I can start 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.160 a football game for you, and they should have that 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.440 because of what they went through this last year. So 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.199 I think it's likely though that Tyrant I think he's 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.280 needed this surgery for two or three years. So you know, 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.160 it's just like I wrote this week, Glass half you know, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.160 glass half empty or half full, half full says, Wow, 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:49.880 he'll be back because he had surgery and he's healthy. 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.360 Glass half empty says, well, he had surgery, you know, 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.559 like he's got to come back from that, so I 0:11:55.880 --> 0:12:01.240 think he will. Okay, Dave, I mean I would I 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.320 would never bet against Tyrant Smith. He's one of the 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:07.200 toughest guys I've ever been around. I have a pretty 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.520 good relationship with him and have just I know him 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.360 well enough to know would not bet against that dude, especially, 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.000 like I said, if this is a surgery that kind 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.920 of corrects these lingering issues that he's had. At the 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.360 same time, it's your job as a football team to 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:28.480 protect yourself from these things. So I'm I'm optimistic and 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.320 confident that both of them will be back, but you 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.080 just can't completely trust to that. Does that mean they 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.719 need to draft to tackle in the top ten? Not necessarily, 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:42.920 but they need to invest significant capital in backing that up, 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.480 probably a draft pick, because a free agent would be 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:50.160 very expensive. So whether it's the first round, second round, 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:54.160 third round, maybe the fourth round, but they need a 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.920 talented guy who can come in here and be their 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.360 number three and be better than Brandon Knight and Terrence Deal, 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.200 you know, or at least that's what I think they 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:10.480 should do to properly mitigate that risk. Well, I mean, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.760 obviously I hope they can. But the thing is every year, 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.200 I feel like every year we go into the off 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.560 season and then get to start in training camp thinking 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.120 and expecting that, oh, this is the year we're gonna 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.120 have the old lineman back and put together, and it 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.880 just doesn't really happen. And I know that the turgeries 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.120 are different and all that, but if it's not one thing, 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.400 if it's not the neck, it's the back or the 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:39.640 leg or the knee, it's always something. And as great 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:43.760 as Tyren Smith is and Lill Collins is another big guy, 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.200 Zack Martin as well, at some point your body kind 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.040 of starts giving up. And again, I am not in 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.360 their body. I am not in their position. I am 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.800 not a medical doctor or anything, but that's just how 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.080 I see it. It's been years back to back, and 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.280 I do have confidence that they can be out there 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.360 on the field, but my biggest concern is for how long? 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.280 And how long is that going to help you for? 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.440 So I think that the Cowboys need to go in 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.400 with a really really good backup plan, a lot better 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.400 than what they did last year. That's an interesting part 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.800 and that's actually why I was gonna go next. Nick, 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.560 I'll ask you the question because I think Amber and 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.000 David kind of hit it. Do you think the Cowboys 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:27.440 need to have a much stronger backup plan than what 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.640 they had this year? And Terrence Still and Brandon Knight 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.640 and Cam Irving Because the one thing I will say, 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.080 is as the season we're on, I think you started 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.960 to see maybe a little bit of improvement from Terrence. Still, 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:39.920 I don't know that it was to the level that 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.360 you wanted to be, But did you see enough there 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.520 where it made you think maybe he's developing enough where 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.720 he could be your backup option. Cam Irving is a veteran. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.320 Is he a good or now he was hurt for 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.080 a lot of that time too. Is he a guy 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:53.640 that could be a backup option? Or do you think 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.280 you really got to go as Day said and think 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.600 about first, second, third round to give yourself a backup plan. Yeah? 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.920 I mean I think that in their mind they had 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.520 a really nice backup plan last year because they got 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.080 a first round pick who hadn't played like a first 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:08.840 round pick. But he's going to be a good swing 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.080 tackle in cam Irving, and it took a while for 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.960 him to finally get it going there. They thought Brandon 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.040 Knight could also be a good fourth tackle and he 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.600 he was. I mean, and Terrence Steele was just a 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:22.520 guy that that kept developing. I guess, and um, well, 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.720 I mean he did. I just didn't even in fact, 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.680 he wasn't even in their plans. He wasn't in their 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.640 plans and so he just jumped in in the mix 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.120 and he was better than some of the other guys, 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.400 which didn't say much. Um, I agree with Dave. Yeah, 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.560 I'm drafting a guy. He's the only he is the 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.200 This offensive lineman is the only offensive player I'm taking 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.960 before the fourth round. I mean, it would be the 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.280 only thing I would consider. And I want to take 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.560 two of them in one player. I want to get 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.080 a guard and tackle. Give me his bio that said 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.080 he played guard his first two years, he got moved 0:15:56.080 --> 0:16:00.200 to tackle his senior year, something like that, because as 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.880 I need him in this because I want him to play. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.880 If he's good enough to play right now and all 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.080 my other guys are good, well, then play mc guard. 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.840 If he's not good enough and he needs to be 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.680 a swing tackle, that's fine. So let me give me 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.480 the guy that's had four years of experience and he's 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.400 a guard. And I don't think that's a first round guy. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.160 I think it's more second and third, but I want 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.440 some of that experience across the board. Got it all right, 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.040 Let's let's watch to another topic on the offensive work. 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.760 I know what yah go to go to you know 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.880 they've mentioned the Super Bowl, and as I was watching 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:36.360 the Super Bowl game, which I hated, but I was 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.560 watching the game and thinking this would be us. That's 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:43.400 exactly what would happen to the Cowboys with the old line, 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.960 especially because that's the thing is again, how long can 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.840 they last during the season? Can they make it all 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.160 the way to a post season to playoff games? If 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.800 we ever get there. So it's like, okay, with the 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.120 old nine, what was happening with my homes and that 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.960 that is just I just saw the Cowboys happening to that. 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.280 And then the refs that's another whole story. But and 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.359 again another thing that would happen to the Cowboys is 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:13.440 how the revs, you know, referee that game. But that's 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.639 just another thing that you do have to look at. 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.440 It's like, Okay, if we do make it that far, 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.880 can you count on these guys to be there, Because 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:25.679 if you're dealing with backup guys, how much is that 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.879 really gonna help you? How far is that gonna get 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:32.359 you passed that first playoff game or any further than that. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:36.120 So that's just that's a huge concern that the Cowboys 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:40.960 they really really need to tackle this year. Dude. I 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:44.080 I was talking to our friend Brian brought us during 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.680 the game, and I was like, can you imagine can 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.399 you imagine if you got healthy seasons out of Lyell 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.639 and Tyring and made it that far and then they 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.199 couldn't play in the Super Bowl, Like neither one of 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:56.920 them could play in this. I think I would throw 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.760 myself from the press box. I wouldn't even I wouldn't 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.200 even want to watch. I wouldn't watch that game. It 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:06.320 would have you ever seen a quarterback that didn't that 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:10.639 lost a big game like that? Obviously Super Bowl didn't 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:17.520 score a touchdown and he was awesome. Yeah, I know 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.000 he had some you know, they didn't they didn't win, 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.679 and hey, I'm the first guy to say, you know 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:24.520 you can. Team doesn't win. You got to judge him 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.680 for that. I get that. And they didn't play the 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.560 great but like just the arm strength that he's got 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.320 on some of these plays, the awareness it was he 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.200 was running for his life. But yeah, but it was 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.959 he He's gonna be I mean I think he I 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.840 think this was like Michael Jordan playing Lebron James when 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.080 Lebron James like third year, you know, like if they 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:46.480 ever would have played. I think it was it was 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.200 like that. That's probably the way it would have gone 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.600 down too. You know, just to this, this could be 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.480 two of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play. I know 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.560 it's early on my homes, but it could be. Yeah, 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:56.399 and some of them, I mean, honestly, some of the 0:18:56.440 --> 0:19:00.320 reminds me of uh, good day. I'm sorry, it just 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.879 it reminded me of the O seven Finals when the 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.159 forty year old Spurs full of Hall of famers just 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.320 kicked Lebron's ass when he was like twenty two and 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.400 just he didn't have any help on his team. Yeah, 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.359 and he and I think that was the issue for 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.000 Mahome Sunny. He's eat any help because he made some 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.480 throws that should have been plays. They should have been 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.399 touched it. There were a couple that would drop. There 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.600 were touchdowns that literally hit guys in the hands or 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.560 in the face, and and they just didn't catch them right, 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.240 you know. You know. And another thing we got to 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.879 throw in there for talking Super Bowl, but that you know, 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.200