Speaker 1: This he is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 1: No your hosts, Mickey's Fagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern
Speaker 1: and Rob Phillips. Welcome everybody to another edition of Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: always joined by making Rob, Brian and me. I got
Speaker 1: corrected on Twitter about the grammar there. Glad you're joining you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad to be back, Mick. Rob did an
Speaker 1: excellent job yesterday in the SWUBC mortgage studio. But today
Speaker 1: we're back and we're looking at a bigger picture of
Speaker 1: everything and how we're going to move forward with these
Speaker 1: next eleven games for the Dallas Cowboys. So how's everybody
Speaker 1: doing today? Y'all have your long sleeves on because the
Speaker 1: weather dropped here in dallastow time. It got below ninety today.
Speaker 1: How about that? How about that fine to fifty? Wait,
Speaker 1: we'll take it. It's so funny we went so long
Speaker 1: without a weather report and I knew, and then I'm
Speaker 1: here and you drag Mickey right back with the weather
Speaker 1: channel on. I guess when you're home in two days,
Speaker 1: it'll be ninety again, and then Micky'll say, you know,
Speaker 1: don't go planting your pansies just yet. You're not. You're
Speaker 1: going to do some outdoor activities this weekend. Yeah, I was,
Speaker 1: but it's too it's it's too hot. They'll die. You're hot.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to help rob out. New homeowner, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks Mick, new homeowner. Wait wait another week or
Speaker 1: two for the pansies. One more thing. You're the same
Speaker 1: age as my parents. And my parents have the Weather Channel.
Speaker 1: Just when they're not listening and talking, cowboys are watching.
Speaker 1: They're watching that. You're just like them. I don't watch
Speaker 1: the Weather Channel. How nice at them unless there's a storm.
Speaker 1: You're a storm hurricane man, right, true? All right, guys,
Speaker 1: Well the Eagles look for real. Let's get to the
Speaker 1: NFC East. First, they're four and one. They're only lost
Speaker 1: being to the Chiefs who are five and oh Redskins
Speaker 1: following behind. They had a bye week last week, but
Speaker 1: they're sitting at two and two and their loss come
Speaker 1: to the Eagles into the Chiefs and of course the
Speaker 1: Cowboys losing to obviously the Broncos, Rams and Packers two
Speaker 1: and three headed into the bye week, and then the
Speaker 1: Giants oh and five. I really truly didn't see that happening,
Speaker 1: And now you know Odell Beckham Junior and all their
Speaker 1: other injuries to their receiver corps. Would you have thought
Speaker 1: this would have gone the way it's going so far
Speaker 1: forward the NFC's now lots of games to be played
Speaker 1: and different things happen, But right now it looks like
Speaker 1: the Eagles leading two games ahead of everyone. I think
Speaker 1: on paper, guys, to start the season, you would say
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Giants buying for that Vision title. And you
Speaker 1: look at the standings right now and they're the bottom two. Now,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's really early, but a winless Giants
Speaker 1: team has got to be one of the biggest surprises
Speaker 1: in the entire league right now. I totally agree. And
Speaker 1: I thought they had the second best. I know. Somebody
Speaker 1: asked me on Twitter, and I actually had the Eagles
Speaker 1: in fourth. Yeah, you had the red Skins enough. Again,
Speaker 1: that shows you why I'm doing radio and not scouting anymore.
Speaker 1: But that's the NFL. But no, but that's I just
Speaker 1: felt like though that the Giants, it surprised me just
Speaker 1: because of the defense and just what they were able
Speaker 1: to do last year eleven and five. You know, they
Speaker 1: were on the Cowboys heels the whole entire season thinking like, Okay,
Speaker 1: they got a lot of the same players coming. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's the same thing that's happened. You know, maybe John
Speaker 1: Smelking those guys up there in New York are kind
Speaker 1: of thinking the same thing we are. You know that.
Speaker 1: You know, you look at your team, you have a
Speaker 1: talented team, You bring back a lot of the same players.
Speaker 1: Oh that offensive line's gonna click, I'm talking about for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Yeah. Oh, the receivers are gonna click. Oh
Speaker 1: they're gonna run the football. Oh, they're gonna play good
Speaker 1: run defense. Oh, they're gonna, you know, be great in
Speaker 1: scoring defense. You know. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you look at and you're like, well, that's not right,
Speaker 1: and you have to review some Yeah, you have to
Speaker 1: review some things. And a lot of those players that
Speaker 1: we saw that we thought were in the opening week
Speaker 1: that we really really worried about, have let them down
Speaker 1: a little bit. And I think you could kind of
Speaker 1: say the same for really for the Cowboys as well.
Speaker 1: And the reason why you're you're sitting here at two
Speaker 1: and three right now, absolutely so you know, it dawned
Speaker 1: on me, what did Tony Orlando and Don Washington is
Speaker 1: the only team in the NFC East that has beatn
Speaker 1: a team that currently has a winning record. The Eagles
Speaker 1: know who they beat. They beat the Rams. The Eagles
Speaker 1: have beat Washington, which is two and two. Right, they
Speaker 1: beat the Giants, Chargers one and four and Arizona two
Speaker 1: and three. Right, they lost the only team with a
Speaker 1: winning record that was Kansas City. The Cowboys have beaten
Speaker 1: two teams with losing records. Obviously, the Giants haven't beaten anybody,
Speaker 1: and Washington at least for their two wins of beating
Speaker 1: the Rams in Oakland. Yes, that oak wind was big,
Speaker 1: soa sit here they still had Derek Carr. Now sit
Speaker 1: here and talk about Philadelphia. Well, okay that now go
Speaker 1: beat somebody, and the same thing with the Cowboys, go
Speaker 1: beat somebody. You know what Philadelphia has been able to do, though, Guys,
Speaker 1: they've done a really good job of stopping the run.
Speaker 1: And I know it might be the opponents, but I
Speaker 1: think they've given up about sixty nine yards a game
Speaker 1: on the ground. Defensively, we think about you know, it
Speaker 1: looks like that they're making some plays through the air.
Speaker 1: The quarterback looks a little bit more solid, you know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't the ball going down the field. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was watching the game, but they're playing the other
Speaker 1: day against Arizona. I look up, it's third nineteen and
Speaker 1: they throw the ball to Nelson Aguilar for seventy six
Speaker 1: yards down the field, and you're going, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's against the Arizona secondary that we you know, we
Speaker 1: felt like that two or three good players in that group.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I understand who you play and how they
Speaker 1: play and all that. I just I think that right now,
Speaker 1: the Eagles are the most complete team in the division.
Speaker 1: They're getting to play that. You know, they had a
Speaker 1: sixty one yard field goal to win a game. That's
Speaker 1: a special team's win right there. You know. They're defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's I think that's where teams. I think
Speaker 1: that's where the teams are struggling a little bit right now.
Speaker 1: Is has anybody in the division really played a complete
Speaker 1: game where you have oftense defense, special teams getting you
Speaker 1: through these games. Well, I like what Mickey said, and
Speaker 1: so that made me wonder, who did the Eagles have
Speaker 1: up next? Carolina? Yeah this weekend? Well, maybe we find
Speaker 1: Actually Thursday, isn't it said Thursday Night game twelve? It
Speaker 1: is Thursday. Yeah, how exciting. We finally get a good
Speaker 1: Thursday night game that everyone's going to be interested in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have some good time. Further bye, way, you didn't
Speaker 1: watch that Donnie Brook last night? Two three two score
Speaker 1: into the house. That's your Bears. Though, that's a three
Speaker 1: two three. I thought I had turned the baseball game
Speaker 1: one by stake? Is that the final score? Non? Some team? Okay?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, well in a soda kicked a
Speaker 1: field goal late twenty something seconds left. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Brian and the Cowboys are overall sitting
Speaker 1: at number twelve in the NFC to vision in Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: Green Bay and Caroline sitting in the top three with
Speaker 1: four and one records. So, but they've got to play everybody.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys of play sure with the exception of a
Speaker 1: couple of games, and they're they're place game right. They
Speaker 1: got the forty night I mean, they got um the Bears,
Speaker 1: but they also got Carolina. Right, let's go figure see
Speaker 1: this This would be to me though. Yeah if Carolina
Speaker 1: with you know, Carolina two really nice wins. They go
Speaker 1: to Foxboro and get a win, and they go to
Speaker 1: Detroit and get a win. So hopefully you know that
Speaker 1: Philadelphia having to travel. I believe Philadelphia travels there this week,
Speaker 1: are you know Thursday? They do? Yes, And so you know,
Speaker 1: Cam Newtonham keep it going. Now, that's but that's an NFC,
Speaker 1: you know, depending on seating sometimes doesn't matter. We make
Speaker 1: a you know, you had the best record in the
Speaker 1: league last year and didn't get it done, and so
Speaker 1: sometimes seating does matter, and sometimes it doesn't. But yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're a Cowboy fan, of course you're hoping that
Speaker 1: Cam Newton and him continue to to do the things
Speaker 1: that they've been able to do to win it New
Speaker 1: England and to win it at Detroit. Yeah. Who who's
Speaker 1: who are the Eagles opponents corresponding opponents Carolina? And who
Speaker 1: else be the Bears? The Bears so as opposed to Atlanta,
Speaker 1: Atlanta the Green Bay. Yeah, but Carolina is right there
Speaker 1: with Atlanta and Green Bay right now. First, So now
Speaker 1: first schedule matters. It's one game now, okay, but right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you guys, God take care of business though, and
Speaker 1: you know what, they got to play the Cowboys twice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so take care of your own business. That's right. There's
Speaker 1: that Cowboys do have five division games now left, so
Speaker 1: you take care of your division business and you're still
Speaker 1: in position to win your division getting the playoffs. So
Speaker 1: you know, the thing that I'm thinking about is that
Speaker 1: last week the games are always said at noon, and
Speaker 1: certain games get flexed. Right now, the Cowboys are slated
Speaker 1: Week seventeen to be playing the Philadelphia Eagles at noon.
Speaker 1: Last year it stayed at noon. Really nice, got home
Speaker 1: in time this year. What are you worried about New
Speaker 1: Year's Eve or what I mean? Sort for everybody. I know,
Speaker 1: I don't have a social life, social director, but no
Speaker 1: social life. You can get a get a victory in
Speaker 1: you party on the flight the way home. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I hope it stays in noon. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, you know the thing about though the East,
Speaker 1: the division games, that's what you got to you know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have found ways to I mean last year
Speaker 1: though they took three division losses, which were the only
Speaker 1: three losses during the year, but they were able to
Speaker 1: beat the you know, the AFC North and then you know,
Speaker 1: able to get through the NFC North and that might
Speaker 1: be you know, depending on how things are going to
Speaker 1: go right now. I mean that's a you know, Seattle,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at some of these teams down the line, though,
Speaker 1: you know, do you really trust some of these teams?
Speaker 1: Do you really now trust Oakland? Do you really now
Speaker 1: trust you know, what you're going to see in Seattle
Speaker 1: Kansas City looks like a for real team, you know,
Speaker 1: and then we quarterback doesn't turn the ball over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Alex Smith has played almost perfect. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: that's what they do. I mean, they've got you know,
Speaker 1: they've got a rookie rusher that's much like what was
Speaker 1: Zeki Elliott. They've got some you know, good design scheme wise. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they're they're not as great as they've been in the past.
Speaker 1: But I think to me, though, that you just play
Speaker 1: the games and you see what happens, and you know
Speaker 1: the but the the one when you have opportunity like
Speaker 1: the Rams game, and you have an opportunity, and you
Speaker 1: have an opportunity like in the Packers game, you know
Speaker 1: that that's what that's what hurts you down road. We
Speaker 1: spoke about it yesterday, is you lose that Rams game,
Speaker 1: which look, they're three and two they're not a bad team. No,
Speaker 1: we don't think so. Anyway, still should have beat him, okay,
Speaker 1: And by virtue of that, then you look at the
Speaker 1: schedule and you're like, you may have to go to
Speaker 1: atlant and you know you may have to steal one
Speaker 1: right and on paper looks like a tough win Kansas
Speaker 1: City at home, you know, Yeah, yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: always know what you said about Alex Smith. He's near
Speaker 1: perfect as quarterback round one twenty five doesn't He doesn't
Speaker 1: have an interceptions I think to intercept. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: him and Drew Brees are the only two quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: don't have an interception in my right of the top
Speaker 1: ones in the NFL has one, Yeah, Breese says one
Speaker 1: case Keenum, there you go. Zero. But here's the deal
Speaker 1: with Alex Smith. His average gain per attempt eight point eight.
Speaker 1: That's rare for him. It usually was probably five or six.
Speaker 1: He is usually one of the lowest rating when it
Speaker 1: comes to yards per attempt. He is leading the league
Speaker 1: eight point eight. He's not a bus driver, man. Well,
Speaker 1: but you know they throw the ball to that runner
Speaker 1: and runner can can scoot. I mean he gets a
Speaker 1: lot of sixty five yard You know, sixty yard plays,
Speaker 1: throw it to him maybe at five yards and there
Speaker 1: he goes kind of a thing. But they've got weapons.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got hill, they've got guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll catch him here in a couple of weeks and
Speaker 1: talk about it'll be one of those you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: who do you try and stop bits? But like Micky said,
Speaker 1: take care of your division. Yeah, go find a way
Speaker 1: to win. You gotta now, you're gonna have to go
Speaker 1: win a game at Philadelphia, You're gonna have to win
Speaker 1: a game at New York, You're gonna have to win
Speaker 1: a game at Washington. Find a way to win those games.
Speaker 1: That's the most important thing. Kareem Hunt kind of seems
Speaker 1: like they're Dak Prescot. You know, he's having this stellar
Speaker 1: season and he wasn't even supposed to be the starter,
Speaker 1: and they his first play a fumble. Boy, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was good at Toledo's really really have two hundred against
Speaker 1: this run defense? Yeah? Yeah, very well could And did
Speaker 1: you guys, did you know who Aaron Jones? Not you?
Speaker 1: Yeah you guys hashtag draft show? When's your draft show? Yeah? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: Well you're already giving up on the season. You're having
Speaker 1: a draft show. No, no, no, no, no, not at all.
Speaker 1: And there's people on Twitter, Mickey, I know you look
Speaker 1: like me, right yeah. Yeah, there's people on Twitter like, well,
Speaker 1: you're already given up. And no, it's not a give up.
Speaker 1: It's just it's our opportunity to, uh, we like to
Speaker 1: go and kind of reset where the draft went. And
Speaker 1: then thank you, Ken Garrison, appreciate that. But yeah, we'd
Speaker 1: like to reset the draft, but maybe and giving an
Speaker 1: opportunity to look at some head look at that. Okay,
Speaker 1: well I have a strong question. I was saving it
Speaker 1: for later, but I think it comes back to the
Speaker 1: draft show, and it comes back to where this team
Speaker 1: is sitting. Obviously, Ezekiel Elliott not having quite the start
Speaker 1: of the season that he did last year. Year he
Speaker 1: ended the season with sixteen three one rushing yards, one thousand,
Speaker 1: six hundred thirty one rushing yards, fifteen rushing touchdowns an
Speaker 1: average five point one yards per carry. He's on pace
Speaker 1: this season for one two hundred and fifty eight rushing yards,
Speaker 1: six rushing touchdowns and with a three point seven yard
Speaker 1: average this season. And you know, let's not forget what
Speaker 1: could possibly happen this week. With the decision. But sure,
Speaker 1: what I want to ask you guys, you know, looking
Speaker 1: at this, Tuesday is Tuesday. I think today's a day myself,
Speaker 1: that's what we said. This is my phones on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm ready for this. I'm ready for somebody to come
Speaker 1: tweeting that out. But I can already interrupted. No, no,
Speaker 1: that's good. But the question I want to ask, and
Speaker 1: I think this is this is an overview show, so
Speaker 1: just go with me. If you could go back, are
Speaker 1: you sure that you wouldn't have wanted to draft Jalen
Speaker 1: Rams over Ezekiel Elliott, who was the cowboys other option
Speaker 1: sitting there at number four. You know, obviously he went
Speaker 1: to the Jacksonville Jaguars and currently right now in the
Speaker 1: season according to some Pro Football Focus. Yeah, right now,
Speaker 1: let's get the bible out. I just wanted to get
Speaker 1: that out of the way so before anyone asked me.
Speaker 1: He's the number three ranked cornerback in the league, so,
Speaker 1: you know, and the Cowboys having their issues at cornerback
Speaker 1: looking very thin back there. Yeah, I still think they
Speaker 1: did the right thing. I think they they made the
Speaker 1: decision to draft a guy that can help their offense
Speaker 1: and their defense. In turn, by what he can do
Speaker 1: ball control, power, running, game time and possession, all those things.
Speaker 1: And they did that against the Packers. They really did
Speaker 1: exactly what they've set out to do and what they
Speaker 1: did for the majority of last season. They had a
Speaker 1: bunch of five minute drives. People knitpicked the last scoring driver.
Speaker 1: They left time for Rogers at the end, but it
Speaker 1: was seventeen plays almost nine minutes. Mean that's how they
Speaker 1: play offense. It seems like they're starting to find some
Speaker 1: traction there. The other thing too, for me, Jane rams
Speaker 1: is having a terrific career. They may have found a corner,
Speaker 1: but they have found a cornerback in Jordan Lewis. He
Speaker 1: looks like that. He looks like a guy who's going
Speaker 1: to be a starter for this team for many years
Speaker 1: to come. The way he's playing already. Gave up the
Speaker 1: touchdown at the end, but he has been terrific making
Speaker 1: plays on the ball, making tackles, being physical. They're really
Speaker 1: happy with his progress so far. And Ramsey played a
Speaker 1: run back to that run defense. Ye awful. Yeah no
Speaker 1: to me. I totally agree with what Rob's said here
Speaker 1: about about Ezekiel Eliott, you know, and I I respect
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's game. I mean, when we were evaluating him
Speaker 1: last year, we thought he was one of the top corners,
Speaker 1: you know, in the league, and so or two years ago.
Speaker 1: I have no problem with the way the direction that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys went because I honestly believe they drafted Ezekiel
Speaker 1: if to help Tony Romo. Absolutely, yeah, I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they were trying to trying to help him
Speaker 1: in the latter part of his career, or give him
Speaker 1: a running game, be a play action team. You know.
Speaker 1: He actually benefited Dak Prescott, you know, and then it
Speaker 1: got Dak Prescott to the point where even without a
Speaker 1: running game, now he's now at least he has an
Speaker 1: understanding of how he needs to make plays to be effective.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I still have no problem with you know,
Speaker 1: we and I hate to think about this because of
Speaker 1: what they did with the pick with with mo claiborne,
Speaker 1: you know, and how that worked out and it and
Speaker 1: it didn't. I mean, Moji couldn't stay healthy, which was
Speaker 1: you know, which was a problem in itself. But I
Speaker 1: do believe, you know, the guy led the league in rushing.
Speaker 1: He was the offensive rookie of the year, Am I right?
Speaker 1: And what award did he win? I mean he was
Speaker 1: something or was that Prescott was offensive rookie? There was?
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah no, but yeah, first team all problems.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you did the right thing there,
Speaker 1: I really do. And you know is is it started
Speaker 1: off slow this year? Yes, but I know a lot
Speaker 1: of teams in the league that would love to have
Speaker 1: a twelve hundred yard rusher at the end of the
Speaker 1: day if they could, if that's in fact what he's
Speaker 1: going to be like Arizona. Yeah, well they traded for
Speaker 1: a guy today. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely sorry, shout no
Speaker 1: better talked about it before you get Yeah, well, before
Speaker 1: we get to the run defense of what Mickey brought up,
Speaker 1: which is a great point because this team is looking
Speaker 1: a lot different than they did last season. We're going
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Speaker 1: got an issue, not a hamstring like this team who's
Speaker 1: having hamstring issues, especially with Shaun Lee who who sat
Speaker 1: out again last week. So this team is greatly missing him.
Speaker 1: But guys, Mickey brought it up. The Cowboys were fifth
Speaker 1: in the NFL last year for points aloud, in fourteenth
Speaker 1: in yards allowed. Right last season, what were they against
Speaker 1: the run? I didn't get that one, number one, number one,
Speaker 1: number one run defensive. Now they're twenty ninth and nineteenth
Speaker 1: in those categories for points allowed in yards allowed and
Speaker 1: so far what is the points aloud nineteenth tenses nineteen oh,
Speaker 1: the points allowed twenty ninth. Okay, they went from eighteen
Speaker 1: to nineteen. Ye last week? Got you now thirty five
Speaker 1: points in each of their losses and two in the third. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but at least what I was saying, at least thirty five, No, no,
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty five, yeah, and then forty yeah, at
Speaker 1: least thirty five and allowing four point six yards per
Speaker 1: rush tip for twenty fifth in the NFL. So yis
Speaker 1: they've gave it up one hundred and sixty yards rushing
Speaker 1: at least three times in five games, and they've lost
Speaker 1: all three games. And I went back and looked at it.
Speaker 1: Since Rod Marinelli has been the defensive coordinator here for
Speaker 1: four seasons, now, that's happened. I think eight times, they're
Speaker 1: like one in seven when they do that, so you
Speaker 1: just can't. That's the thing about this game last week.
Speaker 1: Brian was like, you knew Aaron Rodgers was gonna get
Speaker 1: some gash you at times in the passing game, and
Speaker 1: what they expected to do was stop the run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was way too balanced for him. I was talking
Speaker 1: some guys in Green Bay last night and they they
Speaker 1: were they were surprised to how well they ran the football.
Speaker 1: You know, they they they thought that they liked Jones
Speaker 1: a lot, Rodgers likes Jones, but they were they were
Speaker 1: surprised that the amount of success that they were able
Speaker 1: to have running to football. They were worried about their
Speaker 1: offensive line, their ability to block and create any kind
Speaker 1: of lanes. And you know the thing with Jones is
Speaker 1: they still like, yeah, but he didn't fumble. You know,
Speaker 1: that's they're kind of like worried. That's you know, that's
Speaker 1: one of their deals. They you know, he he known
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, he's known for that. So you know,
Speaker 1: they were, but they they ever got hint. They knew
Speaker 1: Rogers was gonna play. They knew Rogers was gonna play well,
Speaker 1: but they knew but they didn't think that Jones was
Speaker 1: going to be that They thought that would get some
Speaker 1: traction with him, but not to the level that they
Speaker 1: were able to get. I think they found something with
Speaker 1: his speed. They did. They got to the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage like boom. That's what they say. The quickness that
Speaker 1: the one trait that they really do like from him
Speaker 1: is the is the quickness. And and he's different from
Speaker 1: Montgomery in that way. He's not the pass catcher, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, but he's a surely the explosive player that
Speaker 1: we saw so other than missing Sean Lee, which is huge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in this running game, when you only have two defensive
Speaker 1: linemen with more than two tackles, yeah, you got a problem.
Speaker 1: So you had Lawrence and you had Irving. Collins had two, right,
Speaker 1: he had two guys with one more and Crawford and
Speaker 1: the other three guys they zeroed out and they played.
Speaker 1: Now I know they didn't play. You know, probably twenty
Speaker 1: some snaps. But between Price, Mayo and Charlton zero zero zero,
Speaker 1: you can't have that line. Just get one line linebackers
Speaker 1: or safeties can you can? You put them one? Two three?
Speaker 1: There was a couple of missed tackles in the hole
Speaker 1: by the linebackers. Yeah, safeties, Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you put those guys just not holding up on
Speaker 1: the line, you had to rank where it. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: deficiency of problems. I'm not asking any players, but just
Speaker 1: give me the linebackers one, two, and three. If you
Speaker 1: linebackers hadn't been good, no, that's there were too many
Speaker 1: times you saw the linebackers getting washed out of the play. Yeah.
Speaker 1: On tackling from behind, yeah, I totally where you've seen
Speaker 1: him tackle, if they've made place five and six yards
Speaker 1: down the field. That's that's the thing that's most concerning
Speaker 1: to me. But well, hold on, let me ask you, Brian,
Speaker 1: how much is Jalen Smith affecting this. Well, he's to me,
Speaker 1: and the first thing, the first thing out of your words,
Speaker 1: the first thing out of your mouth is what a
Speaker 1: great story? Yeah, every time. But then now it's become okay,
Speaker 1: can I rely on him? Down after down after down?
Speaker 1: And I think the fact that he's been thrown into
Speaker 1: the deep end of the pool, and even Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: said this yesterday with Sean Lee and Hitchens both being
Speaker 1: back on the field, that he will play less and
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing right now, To be honest,
Speaker 1: with you, because to me, there's a lot of thinking
Speaker 1: going on out there, and more thinking than reacting. And
Speaker 1: then when when he turns into okay, now I have
Speaker 1: to react and you don't make the play. You know,
Speaker 1: in the preseason, we saw him step up and make
Speaker 1: some physical tackles and then, like Mickey said, you had
Speaker 1: a couple in the hole where he was waiting and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know you need to
Speaker 1: attack those plays. But I with Jalen, it's he needs
Speaker 1: a break. He really really needs a break. He needs
Speaker 1: to come off the field for a bit and let
Speaker 1: things kind of reset for him. He played less in
Speaker 1: this game, but when you go back to the Rams
Speaker 1: game and he played every snap and we're talking seventy
Speaker 1: defensive snaps, like that's that's two too many for any
Speaker 1: young player. And I'm not even factoring in the injury
Speaker 1: that he's overcome. It's just that's a lot, and and
Speaker 1: that that can expose some things for a young player
Speaker 1: every time now and then, so I think you try
Speaker 1: to get him in a situation where you give him
Speaker 1: a package of plays but not forcing him to be
Speaker 1: on the field all all of that playing time a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a lot. I see you looking up some difference.
Speaker 1: I was trying to look up the plays, the play time, Yeah, percentages.
Speaker 1: You feel like he's played too much? Yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: they're starting to get diminishing returns. And if you notice,
Speaker 1: they basically got him off when went to the deacon
Speaker 1: right and they had two linebackers right and then the
Speaker 1: two linebackers go the wrong way. Two linebackers that they
Speaker 1: had him on the nickel most of the time, but
Speaker 1: Durant was coming in right. You know, you had Durant
Speaker 1: in there, who hadn't played that much Hitchens that's his
Speaker 1: first game, no Lee, and you know, and then Jalen
Speaker 1: trying to play through somewhat of a handicap. So you're
Speaker 1: so the way, maybe if I'm reading you wrong, correct me.
Speaker 1: D line one, safety two, linebacker three, I would go
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, because the safeties have missed too many tackles,
Speaker 1: that's all. Yeah, I mean, and a matter of fact
Speaker 1: that you know, I'm the champion of a play the
Speaker 1: young kids and Xavier Woods in the last drive missed
Speaker 1: a couple of tackles. Yeah, that's that's I mean. Your
Speaker 1: safeties are missing tackles. You know, your defense is going
Speaker 1: to be bad. Your defense is gonna be bad when
Speaker 1: your linebackers and your safeties are missing tackles. Yeah, Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith leading the team with forty one combined tackles. Obviously
Speaker 1: shun Lee and de Law follow behind him. But then
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, your safety has eighteen combined tackles. It's probably
Speaker 1: probably needs off. Yeah, probably a drop off right there
Speaker 1: for sure. So you know, and then it's you're looking
Speaker 1: at different things like that. You're looking at the dbs obviously,
Speaker 1: not just safeties, but cornerbacks Jordan Lewis and Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: are the only ones with lone interceptions. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I was looking at. Cowboys have scored a total of
Speaker 1: fifteen touchdowns to start the season, opponents fifteen as well.
Speaker 1: Now the Cowboys have two more rushing touchdown, opponents have
Speaker 1: two more return touchdowns. Obviously, keep Ti Leaves pick six
Speaker 1: and then this past weekend pick six. So that makes
Speaker 1: a difference, and you know that's where you need your
Speaker 1: defense to step up and to have those plays that
Speaker 1: will get you over the edge. The takeaways are big,
Speaker 1: the lack of takeaways. They haven't had one in the
Speaker 1: last three games, and you think about how close all
Speaker 1: three of those games were. I mean, you guys, want
Speaker 1: to hear something funny. Yeah, the last time the Cowboys
Speaker 1: had a defensive touchdown, Orlando McLean in November of twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen intercepted Mimi Dolphins. Yeah that's yeah, that's a Tony
Speaker 1: Romo game. That's a blast from the past right there.
Speaker 1: We were all flying home thinking the season was saved, right,
Speaker 1: and win them all and then Carolina. Then the Carolina
Speaker 1: game the next week. I think, happy Thanksgiving? Sad and
Speaker 1: funny it is, But isn't that sad that that's the
Speaker 1: last oh it is touchdown? Well, they've it's it's amazing
Speaker 1: for a team that works as hard as they do
Speaker 1: to create turnovers. You know, yeah, they drill it like crazy.
Speaker 1: We so many days of even incomplete passes on the ground,
Speaker 1: somebody's picking up the ball and running and they're forming
Speaker 1: a wall to you know there there. It's not from
Speaker 1: a lack of trying to prepare for turnovers, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know, we look at how they were. Hey,
Speaker 1: the fumble in Denver, you know that was a good
Speaker 1: scoop by a defensive lineman and you know, a way
Speaker 1: you go. But yeah, for somebody that works as hard
Speaker 1: as they do to try and create turnovers, it just
Speaker 1: has not worked out. Yeah, and then obviously everyone knows
Speaker 1: the storyline of a DeMarcus Lawrence and what a career
Speaker 1: season he's having with eight point five sacks, But MALIEK.
Speaker 1: Collins is second with two point five. That's where I
Speaker 1: see an issue. Yeah, I was thinking that MALIEK. Collins
Speaker 1: was going to be in that six seven eight sack range,
Speaker 1: you know, and he still might be. But to Mickey's point,
Speaker 1: you know, MALIEK. Collins hasn't been as a dominant player
Speaker 1: if I'm using the right word dominant player in the
Speaker 1: on the run, in the run side of things. You know,
Speaker 1: he's been getting locked, he's been he's been getting as
Speaker 1: Rob say, he's been getting washed. He's been getting turned,
Speaker 1: you know, ball going up inside. He hasn't made those
Speaker 1: across the line of scrimmage place. I was expecting him
Speaker 1: to be a big quickness tackle for lost guy. Okay,
Speaker 1: second and twelve guy. I was expecting that, but it
Speaker 1: hasn't really materialized for him. Now he's helped he's helped
Speaker 1: Uh Lawrence get some sacks, but his numbers are not
Speaker 1: anywhere near where I thought he would be. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be your playmaker on the line. I
Speaker 1: totally agree. Yeah, yeah, it hasn't happened. Hadn't happened at all. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: another guy that I personally believed had a great training camp.
Speaker 1: I really expected bigger things from him. Haven't seen that
Speaker 1: so far. Kyle Wilbur only as one tackle on the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's going on with him? Well, he's not on the field.
Speaker 1: Might you might start seeing him more though? I mean
Speaker 1: he played the other day, lay the other day. He
Speaker 1: was on the base. But he was I mean he
Speaker 1: was just a special teams Yeah, he was. He played,
Speaker 1: he played a little getting more involved. Yeah, well they
Speaker 1: actually he I wrote about this. He was good on
Speaker 1: the screen on the sack by Crawford. He was good
Speaker 1: on that because he read the play and he was
Speaker 1: able to get over and get Jones. But there was
Speaker 1: a couple of different times, like on some other plays
Speaker 1: that the balls that went to the edge, I want't
Speaker 1: even say the crack, the fourth and one flip that
Speaker 1: they ran, they caught him inside, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: it was a couple of times here's a guy that's
Speaker 1: playing because they think that the other guy because the
Speaker 1: other guy makes Yeah, yeah, exactly. So now you're your
Speaker 1: backup guy. Dam yeah, Damian Wilson's your starter. Now your
Speaker 1: backup guy is you're putting him in to to bridge
Speaker 1: because you're not getting what you want from your starter.
Speaker 1: Well then all of a sudden you put him in
Speaker 1: the game, and now he's making the same mistakes that
Speaker 1: the starter's making, and and you're now, now what do
Speaker 1: you do there? And you know, I thought, Kyle Wilber,
Speaker 1: you're right, Tay. I thought in training camp he's, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of Kyle Wilber. He was a feisty Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have a little bit better season. But you know,
Speaker 1: to Mickey's point, not playing as much they play him
Speaker 1: in the game. He has one good play and three
Speaker 1: bad ones. So when he gets back, is it Lee
Speaker 1: Smith and Hitchens? I think that they. I don't think
Speaker 1: they want to move Lee from the Will linebacker or not.
Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily think it Anti hitchens best spot
Speaker 1: is the Sam linebacker. He's played it, but he's played it.
Speaker 1: He's played it, and I don't think it's his best spot,
Speaker 1: but he's played it. So if you want to put
Speaker 1: your best three on the field that can tackle. I
Speaker 1: think you have to include him as your SAM linebacker.
Speaker 1: And then when you go to the nickel, I think
Speaker 1: you take Jalen Smith off the field. And but that
Speaker 1: means that Hitchens and Lee play the whole game. You know,
Speaker 1: that's basically what's going to turn into. And you know
Speaker 1: if they keep giving up run and don't get off
Speaker 1: the field, and it's sixty seventy plays a game, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of plays for those guys to have to
Speaker 1: play with eleven straight weeks. Now, yeah, well, let me
Speaker 1: switch over to the other side of the ball, and
Speaker 1: I have a question for you rub First, what surprises
Speaker 1: you more when I tell you these two stats. Dez
Speaker 1: hasn't had a one hundred yard receiving game. Came close.
Speaker 1: Zeke has only had two one hundred yard receiving games
Speaker 1: against running Yeah, I mean yeah, rushing, rushing yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: so rushing and receiving. Zeke's only had two one hundred
Speaker 1: yard rushing games. And Dez hasn't had a one hundred
Speaker 1: yard receiving game. I'd say, Zeke, you know, we've we've
Speaker 1: talked about Dez and Daks still trying to get on
Speaker 1: the same page at times. But you saw a lot
Speaker 1: of games last year that they won, and I know
Speaker 1: this year is different. Every year is different. Where the
Speaker 1: receiving stats, the passing stats, they don't look that great
Speaker 1: on paper, but the focal point is they're running the ball.
Speaker 1: Zeke's getting one hundred plus yards every time, he's averaging
Speaker 1: five something yards per carry, and they're winning games that way,
Speaker 1: and they're converting third downs when they have to. In
Speaker 1: the passing game and the run game, to me, has
Speaker 1: been the biggest surprise offensively that they haven't found consistency
Speaker 1: with it. I do think the fourth quarter they stuck
Speaker 1: with it. They were persistent with running the ball despite
Speaker 1: the score, and eighty five yards in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: for Zeke. Hopefully that's something to build on, assuming he's
Speaker 1: eligible to play and is still on the field. Why
Speaker 1: because teams are trying to take Ezekiel Elliott out of
Speaker 1: the game, and if they're doing that, then you ought
Speaker 1: to be able to beat him with your star wide receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the the fact that he hasn't yet and I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm sorry, I'm not buying the same page thing.
Speaker 1: They got to play better, but they just devil's advocate, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they loaded boxes last year. Yeah, there's only so many
Speaker 1: guys you can put in the box. But what did
Speaker 1: they do They passed their way out of it, or
Speaker 1: they ran against them. Well, they ran on eight man
Speaker 1: fronts last year. It's sometimes it's more than a night
Speaker 1: man front and it's not the same offensive line. And
Speaker 1: that's the problem. That's the problem with the des part,
Speaker 1: also with the When the protection is not as good
Speaker 1: as it should be, then you have trouble getting the
Speaker 1: ball down the field. You know, this last game, they were,
Speaker 1: they were working them, they were using them. But again
Speaker 1: the way the Packers played it, they said, no, you're
Speaker 1: not going down the field. You can have all the
Speaker 1: Witten and Beasley you want underneath each eat your heart out,
Speaker 1: but you're not. And they were, you know that that
Speaker 1: safety was running over there. Um. So I think it's
Speaker 1: a somebody else has got to emerge. It's sort of
Speaker 1: like what's going to happen defensively with DeMarcus Lawrence. Somebody
Speaker 1: else has to emerge because teams can see they're not
Speaker 1: they're not. You know, I'm not saying we're smart, but
Speaker 1: we can see it what they're doing what do you
Speaker 1: think we're surprised by the rush? The rush? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think that I think the one thing that and
Speaker 1: I think Mickey makes a great point though, I really
Speaker 1: really do, and it made me think about this, But
Speaker 1: I think the rush because I had a lot of
Speaker 1: faith in the offensive line, even with the changes that
Speaker 1: they were going to make. I felt like that if
Speaker 1: four of the five could really play well, then you
Speaker 1: could probably still run the football. I feel like though
Speaker 1: with with the thing with with Dez is that he's
Speaker 1: drawn some very difficult corners against him. It's fair, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that to me, you know, I if you
Speaker 1: said who who has a better chance of winning matchups consistently,
Speaker 1: I would say the offensive line has better chance of
Speaker 1: winning more matchups than Dez and I And so you know,
Speaker 1: I like, I say, Mickey makes a great point. He
Speaker 1: really really does. And you know, you the the surprising
Speaker 1: thing about it is that that they haven't run the
Speaker 1: football as well. You know that that that to me
Speaker 1: has been just almost shocking. But you know, teams, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit about who you're who you're playing. And
Speaker 1: I think Dez Bryant, especially early, drew so many bad
Speaker 1: matchups for him, and he finally got a matchup this
Speaker 1: past week where they were able to kind of take
Speaker 1: advantage of that a little bit, and in some instances
Speaker 1: it's that's fair. And in the run game too today
Speaker 1: they faced him really good defensive fronts for Zeke as well.
Speaker 1: It's just tough to look at this stat sheet and
Speaker 1: see three point seven yards of carry was Zeke. It's
Speaker 1: just not what you're customed to it. And watching the
Speaker 1: game the other day, I just I looked at the
Speaker 1: at the box score at one point and he's averaging
Speaker 1: two yards of carry, and it just didn't seem like
Speaker 1: it was that little. And I gave him a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for the dirty yards he was able to get.
Speaker 1: It was tough sledding for a long time in that
Speaker 1: game the other day the other day, and he was
Speaker 1: able to get some things moving for them despite what
Speaker 1: he was up against. After three quarters, he was sixteen
Speaker 1: for thirty one. Yeah, sixteen for thirty one, right. He
Speaker 1: did five yards yeah yeah in the fourth quarter, and
Speaker 1: then he had a twenty five yard run. The crack
Speaker 1: toss really kind of got things open in one run
Speaker 1: and almost he almost had more than what he had
Speaker 1: the first three quarters right, but it wasn't there. They
Speaker 1: give it to him sixteen times. Sure, yeah, it's crazy. Well,
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Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, you say that, but the Cowboys
Speaker 1: didn't score that high of points last season. What do
Speaker 1: you mean? I'm saying like in games? You know a
Speaker 1: lot of games came pretty close. Well, they didn't let
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Speaker 1: advantage of that. Mick. Next, I'll let you know. I
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Speaker 1: guys can. All right, question for you guys, what is
Speaker 1: happening to this team in the third quarter, and I
Speaker 1: asked that now, looking at how they're scoring and scoring
Speaker 1: by periods in the quarter. In the first quarter, this
Speaker 1: team has scored thirteen points total, the opponents have scored
Speaker 1: twenty three. In the second quarter, however, this team has
Speaker 1: scored sixty five points opponents thirty three. This is where
Speaker 1: the question is. Seven points in the third quarter for
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, thirty seven for the other team, and
Speaker 1: a rounded off the Cowboys get forty in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter and opponents thirty nine. Great, great minds, I'm writing
Speaker 1: about this today. Actually, see we're just right here wayfall
Speaker 1: then yep, go right to you for the end. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm in the process of trying to figure out why, right,
Speaker 1: I'm actually writing this a right? Seven points now, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's they scored seven against Arizona, right, yes, yeah, and
Speaker 1: their scoreless in the other four is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it's been it looks like it's been a different
Speaker 1: issue each time, or a combination of issues. If you
Speaker 1: look at like the Denver game, they were down twenty
Speaker 1: eight ten when they got the ball in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: You're playing from behind your one dimensional so I think
Speaker 1: that's a factor. Um the Giants game and really this
Speaker 1: the Rams game too, they had some minus runs first
Speaker 1: and second down put you behind the chains, so you
Speaker 1: can't get traction that way. Penalty in the Giants game
Speaker 1: on one of the drives, and I'm not sure what
Speaker 1: the issue was on this past Sunday again, can actually oh,
Speaker 1: they didn't have the ball at one time. They didn't
Speaker 1: have the ball, so yeah, sometimes it's not having enough
Speaker 1: time to get things going. So it's it's it's hard
Speaker 1: to pinpoint one thing when you go look at your
Speaker 1: for your numbers, look and see how many possessions they've
Speaker 1: had in the third quarter. Yeah, because, off the top
Speaker 1: of my head, if you're winning the toss and taking
Speaker 1: the ball to start the game, the other team's getting
Speaker 1: the ball to start the third quarter, right, and if
Speaker 1: your defense can't get off the field, then there goes
Speaker 1: half the first third quarter, that's right, And if you
Speaker 1: go three and out, then you're not getting the ball past. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what happened in this game. Well, yeah, this game,
Speaker 1: But there's also been times they punted on three straight
Speaker 1: drives against the Rams. Was it all in the third quarter?
Speaker 1: All in the third quarter? Yeah, it was, and that
Speaker 1: didn't happen at all I think the season before. So
Speaker 1: they just that was first and second down. They couldn't
Speaker 1: run the ball. Yeah, so it's been a different thing
Speaker 1: last time and the next one. Check that out what
Speaker 1: their running stats are, and maybe this could be a
Speaker 1: combined article. Yeah, do a double headline. Yeah, double headline.
Speaker 1: We can share the research. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: if you had the opportunity, would you play defense first
Speaker 1: if you're the Cowboys, Because I'm thinking my strong suit
Speaker 1: is offense and i want to go score rob go
Speaker 1: defense first and try to get the ball second half.
Speaker 1: I just think you got to execute better in the
Speaker 1: third quarter. To me, it's what I've seen. It's more
Speaker 1: about execution than not happening. Now. They didn't have the
Speaker 1: ball much on Sunday in the third quarter, but I
Speaker 1: think they've just got to do a better job execute
Speaker 1: and play. You like playing defense first with this team, No,
Speaker 1: I really don't, But I'm trying to think of a
Speaker 1: way that maybe juice up the third quarter. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: to me, one of the things that really bothered me
Speaker 1: going into the at the end of the first half
Speaker 1: the other day, Dallas couldn't score even though they had
Speaker 1: the ball at the fifty yard line. I was hopeful
Speaker 1: that they would get some type of points out of
Speaker 1: that last drive because what I feared was that green
Speaker 1: Bay had a score and then if you were gonna
Speaker 1: just kill the half, you know, kneel it down whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, or not do anything, then green Bay was
Speaker 1: going to get the ball back. So that lead that
Speaker 1: you had, you know, you really weren't slowing them down.
Speaker 1: I worried about the ball then taking the last drive
Speaker 1: scoring and then taking the first drive and scoring in
Speaker 1: the game. And but you know it's both team. I
Speaker 1: mean they Dallas what Dallas punted once and green Bay
Speaker 1: punted twice. Yeah, that just showed you that both offenses
Speaker 1: were we're on the screws of trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: do what they needed to do, and both defenses were
Speaker 1: in the on the struggle. Bus Packers had the ball
Speaker 1: in the third quarter eleven twenty eight. How many points
Speaker 1: did they score the fourth, Well, they only scored up
Speaker 1: bild goal in the they scored fifteen at the end
Speaker 1: of the third quarter. They scored it, I mean they
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown on the first play of the fourth.
Speaker 1: Okay scored it. But the drive right, all, okay, so
Speaker 1: they got they got They got two touchdowns in the
Speaker 1: fourth is that right? Then one at the end, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, I remember that. And they only had the
Speaker 1: ball for over and then they had the touchdown on
Speaker 1: the on the interception, so accidently they got They got
Speaker 1: twenty one points, yes, in a matter of only having
Speaker 1: the ball for what three minutes? Yeah? Uh? In the
Speaker 1: third quarter, their possession time was no, no, the Packers
Speaker 1: were huge. They killed the Cowboys in possession. No, no, no.
Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, yeah, two sixteen to sixteen, and
Speaker 1: they scored twenty one points. Seven of those came off
Speaker 1: a pick six and then one play in the top
Speaker 1: the first play of the fourth and then the last drive.
Speaker 1: Think about that, they scored Cowboys had the ball the
Speaker 1: whole time. Yeah, but the but that just shows you
Speaker 1: though sometimes at time of possession it can be a
Speaker 1: little bit misleading, just like targets a free yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: time possession targets are always kind of yeah oh yeah,
Speaker 1: me and making we were looking at them a lot
Speaker 1: of incomplete passes that which one was that they threw
Speaker 1: at his foot And I said, oh there target, it
Speaker 1: was completely off and it was a target, but part
Speaker 1: of that third quarter, and so I know when we
Speaker 1: do research, we like to tie everything into a night.
Speaker 1: Nice little conclusion was the Packers on their second possession
Speaker 1: should have been third and twenty at the two yard line, right,
Speaker 1: and they got out of the hole and then that
Speaker 1: started a fourteen eighty eight yard drive. Yeah, I'll be
Speaker 1: able to I'll be sure to include that in my story. Yes, guy,
Speaker 1: that the guy's cheeks were still puffed out while Mayo
Speaker 1: was laying on top of them. And by the way,
Speaker 1: when I complained about the SEC referees in that Kentucky game,
Speaker 1: the SEC came back and said their officials screwed up
Speaker 1: that whole play. He should like, I'm thinking about replacing
Speaker 1: Mike Pereo with you, yeah, or Landino. Those guys get
Speaker 1: too technical. All you gotta do is look at it
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, that ain't right, that that
Speaker 1: ain't right. The problem is a replace saved your at
Speaker 1: least gave you a chance on the extension aerial view
Speaker 1: whatever that aerial view whatever, that better bring that camera
Speaker 1: with Yeah, the blump view is the best. That is
Speaker 1: the absolute best. It was. It was bone crusher up there,
Speaker 1: just so you know, giving he took a shot from
Speaker 1: his camera that had he puts up in the ceiling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Christian's doing that up there. So it's pretty awesome. But
Speaker 1: you know it's also awesome is Rob's pole? Yeah? Simple
Speaker 1: one today, Mick I missed it, thank you, Tay, of
Speaker 1: course she did. I mean I've not been on Twitter
Speaker 1: the whole week, smart, stay off. Are you concerned about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys playoff chances after Sunday's loss? What's your level
Speaker 1: of concern? There's three options that you're concerned A little,
Speaker 1: a lot, or not at all? I feel like about
Speaker 1: the doctor self, that's right? Can you can you put
Speaker 1: not yet? It is early? It's early, right, So you
Speaker 1: got the option of not at all or a little bit.
Speaker 1: What's what's in between? Again? A little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't see a dominant team so far in the
Speaker 1: in the in the NFC. I mean I understand what
Speaker 1: Carolina is doing right now, which is pretty special. You know,
Speaker 1: going to win and get a Foxborough. New England's defenses
Speaker 1: ranked thirty second in the league. Yeah, but no to
Speaker 1: go win at Detroit, I thought was big. I don't know,
Speaker 1: there's you know, I think you have to look at
Speaker 1: really what the NFC East is and tell you did
Speaker 1: a great job of kind of walking us through all that. Well.
Speaker 1: I love what Mickey said about Eagles. Yeah, I'm cover four.
Speaker 1: You know what I would Oh wait a minute, I
Speaker 1: need a footnote. Yeah, I think you Mickey, No, I
Speaker 1: think if you go through this, if you go through
Speaker 1: and you need, of course, you're gonna have to win
Speaker 1: these games. You know, San Francisco get you back to
Speaker 1: five hundred, and then you go find a way to
Speaker 1: win at Washington. You know, that's San Francisco game, the
Speaker 1: trap game of this season. There's no trap games when
Speaker 1: you're two and three. Yeah, you're you're just as you're
Speaker 1: right there, right there. You just actually need San Francis
Speaker 1: gonna win against Washington this week. That would be a
Speaker 1: big help. You're part of the bugs flat around that trap.
Speaker 1: But I think that to me, I I if you
Speaker 1: go and say you lose one of the two games
Speaker 1: the either the Washington game or the San Francisco game,
Speaker 1: I would be concerned. I would be concerned because you
Speaker 1: got Kansas, Okay, Kansas sitting in Atlanta, and it's not
Speaker 1: going to get any ease in Atlanta. On the road. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so is your answer you're a little concerned or not
Speaker 1: at all? No, No, I no, no, I would say,
Speaker 1: I'm you're head in that direction. No, I don't want
Speaker 1: to I don't want to ride the fence. I never
Speaker 1: ever want to ride the fence. But I do believe
Speaker 1: that these are these are games. And I thought the
Speaker 1: Rams game was a winnable game too. Yeah. So going
Speaker 1: to San Francisco, I mean, for a half last year,
Speaker 1: you were, you know, nip and tuck with them for
Speaker 1: their you know what was going on. But you find
Speaker 1: a way that you lose one of these next two games.
Speaker 1: I think you're I think you have to be concerned. Fair,
Speaker 1: I'm sticking whatnot yet? Okay, tay, you go to two?
Speaker 1: However that fits into those other two alternatives, I put
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm the same way. I think at
Speaker 1: two and three again, like losing a game at home,
Speaker 1: that when you feel like you let one get away,
Speaker 1: that's let two get away. Well, okay, fair, And that's tough.
Speaker 1: That's tough in this league because there's the margin. Fair
Speaker 1: is so slim. So I'll say a little bit. Fifty
Speaker 1: percent of the fans said they're a lot concerned. If
Speaker 1: that's a accurate they're probably yes, well they're but they're
Speaker 1: listening to Mickey talk about the defense, and he's right.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you're thinking that, you're a playoff team,
Speaker 1: and the reason one of the reasons why they won
Speaker 1: thirteen games last year was not just so much well
Speaker 1: the offense, but you were one of the better teams.
Speaker 1: You were the best team in scoring deef or top
Speaker 1: five in scoring defense, and you didn't give up big
Speaker 1: plays and you didn't allow teams to run the football.
Speaker 1: This has been all the recipe that we've seen so
Speaker 1: far for disaster in these games. You guys talked about it.
Speaker 1: One hundred and sixty yard rushers, you know, third down,
Speaker 1: the big third down conversions, untimely penalties when you have
Speaker 1: them deep into territory, no turnovers. You know, there's a concern. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's a bigger concern. Can't consistently run the football, you know,
Speaker 1: receivers not consistently getting open, you know, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: things muffpunt on special teams. You know, there's things that
Speaker 1: make you say I'm concerned, and I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: like there's enough body of work after five games to
Speaker 1: say this needs to improve. Is it's yeah, just an
Speaker 1: oversight at this point. If not, we've been through this
Speaker 1: before with this whole Oh we could turn it around
Speaker 1: and flip a switch bit. You know, but if you
Speaker 1: if you go out there and you lose to San
Speaker 1: Francisco and then you turn around and lose to Washington,
Speaker 1: or or you lose one of the two. I mean,
Speaker 1: now you're thinking about okay, if you just look at
Speaker 1: the way the schedule plays of the teams that are
Speaker 1: in front of you, you know, I mean you have
Speaker 1: to you have to be concerned because you gave away
Speaker 1: a game at the Rams, you gave away a game
Speaker 1: against Green Bay. Yeah. Oh, I like what you're saying
Speaker 1: about the division, because that's really who's gonna win that? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Mickey's right. They're gonna play the same schedule. Philadelphia is
Speaker 1: gonna have to go to Denver or get Denver at home.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to play the Raiders. You know, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to play who we said, Kansas City Raiders,
Speaker 1: San Diego LA. They've already played La. But you know,
Speaker 1: and and the Giants are not gonna go winless through
Speaker 1: this thing. They're gonna beat the red Skins, so they're
Speaker 1: gonna beat the Eagles. They're they're gonna do something. You
Speaker 1: know that. It's it could very well mean nine ten wins.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be pretty, it's not gonna be easy.
Speaker 1: But that's kind of what the mode you're in right now.
Speaker 1: This Philly game, it's it's all. It's starting to become
Speaker 1: Giants Week one, Eagles week seventeen, and that game could
Speaker 1: very well be very meaningful to who wins this division.
Speaker 1: A very very year's day. Yeah, seven pm start time.
Speaker 1: But Washington's got the third place schedule right right. I
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out who they if they if
Speaker 1: any team flipped already that was in third last year
Speaker 1: might be good this year. Yeah. Um, well, and I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I know the NFC North Detroit. Do they get Detroit
Speaker 1: or Minnesota? Well, Detroit was in second. It might be Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Minnesota Minnesota because they finished eight and eight in there,
Speaker 1: and then in seventh South they're gonna get New New
Speaker 1: Orleans seven and nine, I believe ye that's right, okay,
Speaker 1: or because Carolina was last and Tampa Bay right who
Speaker 1: won the division. Tampa didn't win the Division, Atlanta, Wan
Speaker 1: Division Tampa, they get New Orleans, right, Yeah, we'll see
Speaker 1: knock on wood. You know, I'm not saying talking about
Speaker 1: this because I hate it, but the Cowboys have been
Speaker 1: lucky enough with injuries. Where these other teams. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're looking at the Giants right now. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know what you're saying that they could go win one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are they here's the saving grace all the stuff
Speaker 1: we talked about. The two games they lost, at least
Speaker 1: they scored thirty points, right, So if you keep that up,
Speaker 1: you're gonna some ball is gonna fall in your lap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just gotta make a play Robs, Right, He's gotta
Speaker 1: make a play at a significant time. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: could have the other day, would have been a huge
Speaker 1: play in that just one. What did I tell you
Speaker 1: if if I said something, Jordan would do something. Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis would have somehow come down with that ball, you know,
Speaker 1: on the first time they tried to Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: hand up a swide. You know, if he's Orlando Scandrick
Speaker 1: had an opportunity. Orlando Scandrick, if you know he knocks
Speaker 1: the I mean they just have not got the brakes
Speaker 1: that Way and Ron Crawford with the ball in the
Speaker 1: Rams game. But you make your breaks, you really do.
Speaker 1: You make your breaks by getting to the football, tackling
Speaker 1: well and knocking it loose. And that's what this team
Speaker 1: in the past has been able to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: you remember the turnovers came in a bunches, Barry Church
Speaker 1: knocking balls loose. I mean, guys, were you know, knocking it.
Speaker 1: You know, receivers were running, they get hit the balls
Speaker 1: on the ground and you don't throw the body catchers
Speaker 1: that too. Do you know what? That went back and
Speaker 1: looked at that. It hit him in his hands. It
Speaker 1: did hit him in his hands, but he couldn't he turned,
Speaker 1: he had to come. Yeah, he couldn't. He couldn't get it,
Speaker 1: couldn't get it. Such situated, you said, Okay, you scored
Speaker 1: thirty plus points, you should win. There are three losses
Speaker 1: they've given up an average with thirty seven points. You
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't give up north of close to forty.
Speaker 1: But if you keep scoring thirty, somebody's not gonna keep
Speaker 1: scoring three. You're not gonna help. You would hope against
Speaker 1: I mean they drawn against Rogers and the Rams were
Speaker 1: averaging thirty five. I mean, goof Jed, goofy. If you
Speaker 1: could have Okay, let's talk about second second, a big
Speaker 1: picture after the bye. If you could get one area
Speaker 1: to play better, you know, and all the things we've
Speaker 1: talked about, what one thing would you try. We've talked
Speaker 1: about turnovers, we've talked about past defense, we've talked about
Speaker 1: run defense, we've talked about running the football. What one thing,
Speaker 1: What if you could say, Okay, magically, everything is going
Speaker 1: to turn around for you after this bye. To me,
Speaker 1: it's it's run defense. Because they didn't generate a ton
Speaker 1: of turnovers last year. They got twenty. They need more
Speaker 1: of them. But they were able to get off the
Speaker 1: field with down in distance. They didn't allow a single
Speaker 1: one hundred yard rusher last year. Right, they can do
Speaker 1: that and get teams into third and eight, third, nine,
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Got a better chance to get off
Speaker 1: the field. That's me. That's the biggest one. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: can't link those big plays in the ground game because
Speaker 1: you're talking about these big games. Okay, Kareem Hunt, I'd
Speaker 1: like to see you have your worst days, Dallas scoutboys.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna say run defense, I would say I
Speaker 1: would say run defense, but a close second is secondary
Speaker 1: and then maybe some different different things on the special
Speaker 1: teams area. I mean, very happy with Dan Bailey seven
Speaker 1: for seven. Great for you, Chris Jones. Great, let's get
Speaker 1: some bigger return returns. What do you got How about
Speaker 1: blocking the guys that come down as the gunners. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the run defense, and then one CEE is the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Oh I like that. Yeah, I don't disagree. I think
Speaker 1: I think I think that I think they've been putting
Speaker 1: some Their ability to run last year put a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure on teams. Their their inability now to not
Speaker 1: defend the run has been able to It has helped
Speaker 1: a lot of teams and it's kept them off even
Speaker 1: though they had the time of possession against the Packers,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it had to do with the turnover, right,
Speaker 1: as you got two possessions in a row. Right, got
Speaker 1: to get that offense on the field, right, If you're
Speaker 1: going to score thirty points a game, you need to
Speaker 1: get them out there as much as you can. Actually
Speaker 1: if you're not helping them, Yeah, yeah, I just I
Speaker 1: wish if the run defense was there. But the problem
Speaker 1: is you say play run defense and now you're throwing
Speaker 1: at a bunch of young guys in the secondary. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm thinking back to the worst loss
Speaker 1: and I think unanimously we can all agree that was
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos game. And of course you could say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: look at their defense, they're so amazing, you know, all
Speaker 1: the stuff. But Trevor Simeon and C. J. Anderson were
Speaker 1: a huge threat that day. And you know you're talking
Speaker 1: forty two points. Yes, some came from the defense, guys,
Speaker 1: I get that, but what oh Brian said it that week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Broncos offense won that game, being able to keep
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense off the field. I think the Rams
Speaker 1: loss was the worst one they've had so far. That's
Speaker 1: the one. I mean, I know, the Packer one. I
Speaker 1: kind of my mind was thinking, it's Aaron Rodgers, as
Speaker 1: you it's going to be difficult, and I was hurt
Speaker 1: because they lost the way they lost, But the Rams
Speaker 1: one was the one that bothered me the most. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and who knows, they may come back to the Pack
Speaker 1: just the way they did. Sure last year, you never know,
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