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Speaker 1: The Giants couldn't unlock much today on the offensive side

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Speaker 1: to six in their season opener at MetLife Stadium. John

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Casias. Where waiting Brian Dables press conference. We'll have

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Speaker 2: JC. Let's start with you.

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Speaker 1: We talked about at halftime about this offense having to

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Speaker 1: get things going, and they never really did in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of mistakes. Pick six Cruci, you can't

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Speaker 3: do that. They couldn't really find a rhythm. They never

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Speaker 3: was laid, a lot was thrown behind you know, they

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Speaker 3: tried to run Motor, and Motor looked I think pretty

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Speaker 3: good at times running the football looked pretty efficient, looked

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Speaker 3: like he had some great vision, but it looked like

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Speaker 3: And defensively a clean pocket for Sam Donald almost the

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Speaker 3: four to five seconds. That's just not giving yourself a

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Speaker 1: And Bob You and Carl talked about this. For much

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Speaker 1: of the game. Daniel Jones was a scattershot with his accuracy.

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Speaker 1: When he did throw the ball well, the receivers dropped

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Speaker 2: Five sacks for the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: That puts them on pace for the same number of

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Speaker 1: game seventeen game season and the penalties killed this team,

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Speaker 1: and even when Jones had time, guys weren't open down

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Speaker 2: It's hard to find things that went well.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you have a stop on what led to

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Speaker 5: it was announced that it was Burns, but it was Thibodeau.

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Speaker 5: You look at Thibodeau's stat line, he did not have

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Speaker 5: you can't. Your better players have to be better than that.

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Speaker 5: And I know that the tackles are pretty good for Minnesota,

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Speaker 5: really generated no pressure Sam Darnold other than a couple

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Speaker 5: that got intercepted. Look, the Giants got out schemed every

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Speaker 1: And when shambol And got here, Bob the two parts

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Speaker 5: right so everybody says it's one game. You know, you

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Speaker 5: be alarmed because again, it's not like the NFC Championship,

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Speaker 1: Three and he finished the game nineteen of twenty four

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Speaker 3: What bothered me is in the fourth quarter started late

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Speaker 1: And I think at least some of us thought they

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Speaker 3: But what I do take from this, Bob, I seen

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Speaker 2: Drew Phillips of Forrest fumble as well. Let's take a

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Speaker 5: And the league neighbors five catches for sixty six. You know,

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Speaker 5: It wasn't the explosives that you would have expected. But

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Speaker 5: Slayton Hyatt, you can't drop passes when everything else is struggling.

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Speaker 1: Tyrone Tracy had to drop as well, and Phil Johnson.

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Speaker 8: Third and five from the Giant thirty five neighbors split

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Speaker 8: out wide to the left, Jones back step shot, fastball

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Speaker 6: Briskly passed, but they threw it to the right guy.

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Speaker 2: It was a risky pass.

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Speaker 1: In fact, if it was a lower throw, Bob, as

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Speaker 1: That catch did lead to the Giants second field goal

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 6: The Giants defense held the Vikings to three of ten

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Speaker 2: Well, the Vikings offense in the second half didn't do

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Speaker 10: Uh okay.

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Speaker 5: Obviously not the way we wanted to start a disappointing game.

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Speaker 5: A lot to clean up, and that's what we'll do.

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Speaker 11: I know you always say you want to recognize, you

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Speaker 12: And if so, what did you see? Was it a

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Speaker 6: Made a good play?

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Speaker 5: He jumped up and we were throwing a look pass

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Speaker 10: Film, Yeah, I say that I'm gonna go back watch

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Speaker 10: the tape see what we can do better. Obviously there's

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Speaker 14: Starts with me, did you ever consider taking Daniel out

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Speaker 3: Did you see were they doing something different than.

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Speaker 12: You guys expected defensively?

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Speaker 14: Why do you think that was?

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Speaker 5: No, they actually didn't pressure that that much pressure a

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Speaker 15: Even though they play that, do you still want to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought we be prepared well and I thought

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Speaker 10: And that's what I'll do.

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Speaker 15: Any additional disappointment in it being a knight for the

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Speaker 14: History and the celebration team.

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Speaker 10: I think when you lose, you're always disappointed.

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Speaker 17: Ran This team seemed eager to you know, there's a

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Speaker 10: No, Look, our job was to go out there and perform,

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Speaker 10: I mean, they kept them in good situations.

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Speaker 10: Didn't have that many plays, but you know, didn't I shop,

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Speaker 10: We practiced it and you did, didn't finish it.

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Speaker 10: Years last year focused on this game and a lot

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Speaker 12: Thought it was the best thing to do. Coach.

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Speaker 11: When you when you go back and look at it, right,

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Speaker 12: A lot to fix.

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Speaker 19: How did you think Abs looked out there today?

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Speaker 9: How did you thinks looked.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, again, we just got done here, made plays on

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Speaker 14: I'm concerned about his confidence.

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Speaker 18: That was bet All.

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Speaker 12: Around come today?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? Look, I can't talk for anybody else. I know

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Speaker 5: We're to come back in and tomorrow morning, go to work, learn,

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Speaker 17: This was your first game calling the plates, not are

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Speaker 12: Lot and did score. So I wasn't good enough as.

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Speaker 19: What'd you see from Burns and Thibodeau.

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Speaker 20: I did.

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Speaker 12: Again. Those will we'll talk about that here. We went

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Speaker 15: Was he injury related?

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Speaker 12: You're you're kind of bringing.

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Speaker 2: Was he available to play then?

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Speaker 9: Were you okay with him play physically like that?

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Speaker 12: It just happened. It happened in pregame.

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Speaker 16: Ames on the room coming out in the third quarter,

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Speaker 22: Look like you're going to get the ball back in

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Speaker 14: Did you get a look at what happened, bros.

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Speaker 16: Well, they announced burns and then they change it.

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Speaker 12: It starts with me.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you change your practice schedule, regiment.

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Speaker 14: You guys worked hard in the summer.

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Speaker 5: Well, look, you got to do a good job to

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Speaker 18: Is there anything when you walk out of here that

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Speaker 12: Well not at this time? Coach? What was it about

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Speaker 11: Then you got one of the penalties twelve in the

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Speaker 6: Put it all on me, Brian?

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Speaker 16: What what's your message be to the advance right now?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, we got to do a better job.

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Speaker 23: That's what we're gonna work on doing a couple more, Brian,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not gonna comment on the on the officiate

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Speaker 18: I'm just a thick out of the team.

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Speaker 14: When they go ninety nine.

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Speaker 18: Yards get that dry.

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Speaker 5: Uh, you know you'd love to hold him back there

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, okay, obviously, Hey, coach Brian Dable not

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Speaker 1: Back here on Giants Extra Point. Giants fall to the

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Speaker 1: Vikings twenty eight to six in their season opener. They're

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Speaker 1: zero to one to begin twenty twenty four, John Schmeilt, Bob,

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Brian Dable not happy with what he saw. He

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Speaker 1: Bring anything positive to light, didn't make any excuses. He

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's really not much an NFL head coach can

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Speaker 6: That's why they say we need to look at the tape.

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Speaker 1: And then interrupted your Bob real quick. Daniel Jones is

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Speaker 12: Your performance in the offense today, Yeah, obviously not good enough.

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Speaker 25: Didn't get any in the end zone, scored six points,

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Speaker 25: didn't create much rhythm and flow for ourselves, and yeah,

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Speaker 25: I've got to be better, certainly, got to you know,

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Speaker 25: play better, give ourselves more chances to make plays and

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Speaker 25: execute more consistently.

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Speaker 12: What was your conversation just trying to get the ball

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Speaker 12: out to one Dell? Yeah?

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Speaker 13: What was your conversation like with coach table after the

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Speaker 13: game in terms of you know where things are and

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Speaker 13: where things are going.

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Speaker 25: I think we'll get in watch the film, see what

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Speaker 25: we can do better. See I, you know, need to

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Speaker 25: play better, and uh go from there. But yeah, I

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Speaker 25: think we're we're focused on that.

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Speaker 9: I'm concerned with you that he will you know, replace

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Speaker 9: you at quarterback.

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Speaker 12: I'm focused on doing my job and playing as well

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Speaker 12: as I can. So I've got to play better. I

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Speaker 12: know that, And I'm uh focused on.

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Speaker 13: Doing that, and he seem to have a number of

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Speaker 13: frozen We're kind of lone in the dirt over there.

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Speaker 12: Did was that just a little run.

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Speaker 18: You got into?

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Speaker 12: What was what was going on there?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: I just gotta keep my balance and make a good

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Speaker 25: accurate throw. Yeah, certainly look at that and and me

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Speaker 25: to correct it.

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Speaker 14: Hey, well, I'm sorry, I'm a little lady.

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Speaker 12: Somebody asks you what happened on.

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Speaker 14: The pick six?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, just trying to get the ball up to one

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Speaker 25: dell there on the screen. I'll look at it, see

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Speaker 25: if I can get it out quicker.

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Speaker 14: How would you just take your confidence right now?

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Speaker 4: Ah?

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Speaker 26: Good?

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Speaker 25: I think I got to continue to you know, get

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Speaker 25: into a rhythm and uh you know, get going complete

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Speaker 25: some balls, good things moving. I think, you know, we

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Speaker 25: all got to uh uh all got to do that

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Speaker 25: and that will help us, you know, build confidence and

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Speaker 25: and keep going.

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Speaker 12: Yan you was that part of a problem today?

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Speaker 23: It didn't didn't seem like anybody, not your shoot, anybody

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Speaker 23: was getting into a rhythm on their offense.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: I think obviously it's uh, you know, largely my responsibility

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Speaker 25: to help us do that and uh, you know, keep

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Speaker 25: going complete passes, move the ball, So.

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Speaker 12: You know, I've got to look at where I can

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Speaker 12: be better.

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Speaker 25: But yeah, I think we all need to all need

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Speaker 25: to work to get into a rhythm and execute consistently

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Speaker 25: down the field.

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Speaker 20: Last year, you had a tough week, one game and

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Speaker 20: then a stretch where things didn't go so well that

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Speaker 20: you wanted after that.

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Speaker 19: How do you prevent that from happening this year?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, man, I think it's about uh seeing where we

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Speaker 25: need to be better and and addressing those areas and

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Speaker 25: then executing.

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Speaker 12: It comes down to, you know, making the play, executing

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Speaker 12: and uh and getting going.

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Speaker 25: So uh, I know we got the guys to do that.

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Speaker 25: Confident myself, confident the group, and we'll go from there.

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Speaker 19: Daniel, how much did the overall play of the offense

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Speaker 19: surprise you today, given the fact that it felt like

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Speaker 19: you guys came out of training camp feeling pretty good.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, obviously we uh expected expected to play much better

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Speaker 25: than we did today. A lot of things we didn't

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Speaker 25: do well, like I said, and I thought, you know,

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Speaker 25: we had a good week of preparation, had a good

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Speaker 25: week of camp, or had a good training camp. So

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Speaker 25: we've got to, you know, look at the things we

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Speaker 25: need to do better today and clean those up.

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Speaker 19: Were there any glitches with Dable calling the plays at

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Speaker 19: all or anything that along those lines.

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Speaker 12: No, smooth.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, the fans seem to get restless early as you

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Speaker 13: guys struggled to get into a rhythm. How does that

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Speaker 13: affect you, guys when you're hearing the booze get louder

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Speaker 13: and you're you're struggling to try to get things rolling.

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Speaker 14: And plus with a lot of some young guys on

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Speaker 14: the team too.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean, I think it's our job to give

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Speaker 25: them something to cheer about and to play well, to execute,

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Speaker 25: and we take that seriously.

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Speaker 12: So you know they expect us to play well. We

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Speaker 12: expect to play well. We've got to do that.

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Speaker 24: Excuse me if I miss this, But did you talk

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Speaker 24: about the interception and the end zone and what could

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Speaker 24: you take us through there?

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Speaker 12: Like did you not see it or like something in

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Speaker 12: your way or.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, just the screen out to one dell I think

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Speaker 25: trying to get the ball out quick, get it in

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Speaker 25: his hands.

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Speaker 12: Let I'm run.

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Speaker 19: Others And this has been asked, but how did it

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Speaker 19: feel in the pocket today?

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Speaker 12: Pressure you looked at I don't know, didn't look uncomfortable

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Speaker 12: at times as we're trying.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I've got to do a good job of of

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Speaker 25: staying in there when it's good and moving and find

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Speaker 25: the soft spot. Look at where I can do that better.

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Speaker 25: It's something I'm always working on it.

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Speaker 13: Bothers you most, any of you just off the field here,

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Speaker 13: But how about your performance.

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Speaker 9: Today when you look at it?

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Speaker 4: What? What?

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Speaker 9: What's the thing you'd like to take back most?

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Speaker 25: The fact that we scored six points, didn't execute in

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Speaker 25: the red zone, didn't consistently.

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Speaker 12: Execute and move the ball. I think all those.

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Speaker 13: Things specific play though you did, Bob is shoot the most.

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Speaker 12: No, I mean I think.

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Speaker 25: I'll look at it and see see where I need

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Speaker 25: to be better. But yeah, there's there's a you know,

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Speaker 25: we need to need to improve. I need to play better.

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Speaker 14: How did the line.

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Speaker 12: Function in your opinion today?

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Speaker 19: Getting out the first the offensive line?

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Speaker 2: What is just?

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Speaker 12: And yeah, I thought I thought they played well.

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Speaker 25: I think you know, we'll look at uh look at

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Speaker 25: the film, see where I can help them out. Uh,

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Speaker 25: see where we can we can do things better.

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Speaker 12: I think you know we'll look at it. But yeah,

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Speaker 12: I think that'll be something we focused on this week.

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Speaker 21: How do you think the leak did in this first cinefield.

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Speaker 12: I played well, had a couple a couple of big

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Speaker 12: plays and some nice catches. I got to find a

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Speaker 12: way to get in the wall more.

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Speaker 27: If you are.

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Speaker 19: Daniel, is it discouraging like.

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Speaker 25: I mean, it's certainly frustrating and disappointing to get the

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Speaker 25: result you know today that we did. I think for us,

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Speaker 25: we got to understand this is the first week and

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Speaker 25: there's a lot of football to play, so we've got

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Speaker 25: to clean it up. We've got to make some improvements fast,

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Speaker 25: and a lot of football to play.

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Speaker 14: So that's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 9: Is there anything I'm looking forward to against the Commanders?

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Speaker 12: Clean it up and playing better?

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Casius. Giants fall to the Minnesota Vikings twenty eight

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Speaker 1: to six. And guys, we just heard from Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: in that last segment. Jac Let's start with you. Obviously

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Speaker 1: not happy with the way he played, and you just

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Speaker 1: need more than six points out of an offense if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna win any games really in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: which unfortunately was kind of the story we had with

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Speaker 1: this offense overall last year as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, he just never looks settled. He never looks

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Speaker 3: settled at all today, and at times he had a

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Speaker 3: clean pocket. You know, I think last year, you know,

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Speaker 3: we talked about the three quarterbacks that played last year

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Speaker 3: for the New York Football Giants, Daniel Jones getting hurt twice.

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Speaker 3: Today he kind of had a relative clean pocket for

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Speaker 3: you know, majority of the forty two passes, and he

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Speaker 3: couldn't he couldn't hit guys, you know, And this is

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Speaker 3: the thing I expect, sloppy ball, Bob like there's this

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Speaker 3: sloppy ball happens. But like when everybody's sloppy, you can't

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Speaker 3: have one particular person, especially a guy that's throwing the

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Speaker 3: football playing worse than sloppy. You know, there's drops that happen,

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Speaker 3: there's you know, people that not run the right routes.

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Speaker 3: That's what happens the first game of the year. But

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Speaker 3: like the performance of Daniel Jones, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: long week for him to recover from. But you know,

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Speaker 3: Commanders next week, and he has had some historical success

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Speaker 3: against them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen, Carl and I we've been huge

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Speaker 5: supporters of Daniel Jones. I mean, I remember his rookie season.

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Speaker 5: I know what he did two years ago. He cut

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Speaker 5: down on turnovers, he ran the ball and everything else.

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Speaker 5: But you can't, you know, as people are driving home listening,

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Speaker 5: you can't defend the fact that he was as sloppy

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Speaker 5: as the rest.

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Speaker 6: Of the team.

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Speaker 5: Because the reason why quarterbacks get paid a lot of money,

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Speaker 5: and the quarters that give you a chance to win

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Speaker 5: a championship are those who take things when they are

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Speaker 5: down and they elevate the team. You know, we celebrated

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Speaker 5: the one hundred seasons of Giants football. In twenty eleven.

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Speaker 5: The Giants were ranked thirtieth in rushing yards and rushing

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Speaker 5: yard attempts yards per attempt. In the twenty eleven season,

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Speaker 5: they didn't run the ball like they did in seven, eight,

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Speaker 5: even twenty ten, and defensively, Oc and Tuck were hurt.

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Speaker 6: Their defense was not even middle of the pack. It

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Speaker 6: was in the lower third.

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Speaker 5: But Eli Manning led eight fourth quarter comebacks and I

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Speaker 5: think four of them were within the last two minutes,

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Speaker 5: and he elevated that team. He made Victor Kruz, He

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Speaker 5: made manningham better. He had a Keem Nicks. You when

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Speaker 5: you're paying your quarterback with the Giants are paying Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 5: he can't play on the same level as the malays

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Speaker 5: As guys dropping passes, guy missing an assignment here, whatever,

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Speaker 5: the quarterback has to elevate.

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Speaker 6: And that's the thing that he did not do today.

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Speaker 6: He played to the level of everybody.

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Speaker 1: Else, and the quarterback can't do that in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League, Jays, if you have an open wide receiver

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Speaker 1: and you're not under pressure as a quarterback, you have

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Speaker 1: to make accurate those in those situations. There's one thing

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Speaker 1: if you're offer your back foot of guys hanging on you,

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Speaker 1: it happens. But when there's an open receiver, especially within

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Speaker 1: ten fifteen yards, it's those are if if you want

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Speaker 1: to be a consistent offense, those are plays you have

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Speaker 1: to consistently make it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and even said it too, he said, I gotta

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Speaker 3: be better at my footwork because there were times he

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Speaker 3: get a balance, Yeah, clean pockets, and his footwork looked

674
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Speaker 3: like he was getting rushed, and like that's an issue.

675
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Speaker 3: I believe hopefully he can correct it. He's going to

676
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Speaker 3: need to correct it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because because you could talk about guys dropping passes,

678
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Speaker 5: which they did, but even when guys are dropping passes,

679
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Speaker 5: you gotta have the quarterback still putting it on them

680
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: and give him up ortunities to drop more. Yeah, don't

681
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 5: also be part of the bomb. I we got a

682
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Speaker 5: couple of drops, but then the other freebies that you

683
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 5: have are inaccurate. Like that's the way you elevate the team.

684
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Speaker 5: And unfortunately today he didn't do that.

685
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Speaker 1: Giants had four explosive passes of fifteen yards or more

686
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Speaker 1: in the game. Tunam Lak Neighbors one to won the

687
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Speaker 1: Rominson and Theo Johnson had one. Vikings also had four

688
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: by the way, so tho wasn't a big disparity there,

689
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Speaker 1: and Brian Dable mentioned this briefly Bob in his press conference.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if the fact that the Vikings did not

691
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Speaker 1: pressure that much in this game. You know, we talked

692
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Speaker 1: all week they led the league in zero blitzers last year,

693
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: where they had no help. They didn't blitz nearly at

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Speaker 1: all in the first half, and the second half they

695
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Speaker 1: started to do a little bit more of it.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if all that coverage they were.

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Speaker 1: Playing, if the Giants game plan was prepared for that necessarily,

698
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Speaker 1: or if they were looking for more of those pressures.

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Speaker 6: They might have.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, why not, right, Why not surprised the

701
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Speaker 3: offense you're going against by not blitzing them, thinking that

702
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Speaker 3: they're gonna have to get the ball out quickly, but

703
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: you're actually sit back and coverage. Well, there are adjustments

704
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Speaker 3: that happen. Then you see what you see the card

705
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Speaker 3: that they're playing. It's like, okay, let's make adjustments. There's

706
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Speaker 3: four quarters of football here, guys, you know, and you

707
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: get exposed to something early. There's such thing as making adjustments.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to wait till halftime either, you don't

709
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Speaker 3: have to wait till you get on playing.

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Speaker 5: The thing about you know you played in this league,

711
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Speaker 5: I mean you played for Belichick, you played for Tom Coughlin,

712
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Speaker 5: like this whole thing. Magical thing about halftime adjustments is

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Speaker 5: bs the guys that are the really good coaches are adjusting.

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Speaker 6: From series to series.

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Speaker 3: Right after series.

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Speaker 5: They're looking at the tablets, they're getting information, they're figuring out,

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Speaker 5: they're getting feedback from the coaches, and they make adjustments

718
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Speaker 5: as they go along. You wait to halftime to make

719
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Speaker 5: an adjustment, you're losing the game too late. So they

720
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Speaker 5: didn't adjust. Whatever their plan was wasn't good on either

721
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Speaker 5: side of the ball against what Minnesota's plan was, And

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Speaker 5: then the adjustments that needed to happen didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: Right on offense. When they adjusted to whatever they were

724
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Speaker 3: seeing on defense, it's almost like they went totally conservative.

725
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Speaker 3: There were times where the Giants didn't throw the ball

726
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Speaker 3: past the line of scribbage three or four or five

727
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Speaker 3: plays in a row. And this is supposed to be

728
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Speaker 3: an explosive offense, and it's like the pressure's not there.

729
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Speaker 3: They're sitting back and playing coverage. Are we gonna have

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Speaker 3: time to get the ball down the field because I

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Speaker 3: just felt like the pocket. We complained last year a

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Speaker 3: lot that they didn't have protection any quarterback. There's three

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks that played for the Giants last year. We were

734
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Speaker 3: complaining a lot about the pocket not being cleaned. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there was some sacks there, but there was a lot

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Speaker 3: of times we with some clean pockets and plays just

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Speaker 3: were not executed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were five sacks in this game, but it

739
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Speaker 1: wasn't every single player. There's a guy in the backfield

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Speaker 1: hanging on the quarterback in this game.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not like last year. They were free runners

743
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Speaker 6: coming everywhere.

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Speaker 5: I mean there was one, but Jones avoided the guy

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Speaker 5: and then he wound up running into a sack.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, Yeah, I mean they played bad. They didn't play well.

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Speaker 5: I mean right, I mean listen, all these all these

748
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Speaker 5: fans for generations driving home.

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Speaker 6: They're listening. You know, everybody saw what they saw.

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Speaker 5: Now they have to figure out a way to get

751
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Speaker 5: better because they're gonna be playing Dan Quinn's Washington Commanders

752
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 5: next week. Uh, it's a new team. It's a whole

753
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Speaker 5: new look. They got Jayden Daniels at quarterback and forget it.

754
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Speaker 5: Like I said, like we said earlier, going into this game,

755
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Speaker 5: you can't say, well, man, you know, the Giants kind

756
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Speaker 5: of got a recipe against the Vikings.

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00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 6: That was two years ago with a different defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: You want to talk about the giants rich history over

759
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 5: the last fifteen years against Washington and pretty much smoking

760
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 5: them all the time. Uh, that's new head coach. Everybody's gone.

761
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 5: They got a new quarterback. So they bet they got

762
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 5: to get better and fast.

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Speaker 3: Real quick, because listen doesn't get any easier every single week.

764
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Speaker 3: It's only seventeen of these things, right. It's not like

765
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: the NBA. It's not like other le baseball where you

766
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: can drop a couple and you'll be fine. If the

767
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Speaker 3: Vikings are in it at the end and the Giants

768
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: actually do something this season and have a respectable record,

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Speaker 3: the Vikings are a team that they're probably gonna be

770
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Speaker 3: vying for for that spot for you know. So it's like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to look down the road, but every

772
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: single game matters, Every game matters. This game was a

773
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Speaker 3: huge game. Next week is a huge game, and you know,

774
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Speaker 3: we know the schedule can get you know, it's gonna

775
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: get real rough after next week. But you gotta, you gotta,

776
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: and it's not even about winning and losing all the time,

777
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Speaker 3: like be respectable, you know. And last year we were

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Speaker 3: walking off the field leaving the stadium so many times

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00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 3: when it's just it wasn't competitive, it wasn't respectable matchup. Yes,

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00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: it was a little bit competitive today, But I feel

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Speaker 3: the same as I felt forty zero Sunday night, first

782
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Speaker 3: week last last year against the Giant Giants first Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think if you're a fan, I

784
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: think that's the thing that has to have you most

785
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 5: concern right now, is that, hey, look, you know that

786
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 5: there's some flaws with the row and it's still a

787
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 5: developing situation in year three of Joe Shane and Brian Dabele.

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Speaker 6: But you know, you lose this game twenty seven to

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Speaker 6: twenty three, and Justin.

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00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 5: Jefferson makes a couple of big plays and you just

791
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 5: don't have the guys necessarily cover them, and the corners

792
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 5: are younger. You say, okay, man, that stinks, but okay,

793
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 5: what are we building off of when you you know,

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00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 5: what happened today is very alarming because you know you're

795
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 5: sitting there saying to yourself show me some glimmer, show

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00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 5: me something somewhere.

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Speaker 3: And also, Bob, this roster it looks better on paper.

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00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: The offensive line has improved. You have an elite pass rusher,

799
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Speaker 3: you have you know, talented young secondary guys. You you

800
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: have a number one wide receiver who proved that today.

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Speaker 3: And it's still the same feeling. It's still the same

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00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: almost result in feeling that we had all of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Three, no question about it.

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Speaker 5: Got back to my point before about your quarterback when

805
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 5: things aren't going well needs to take the team him

806
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 5: on his back and elevate.

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Speaker 2: And obviously that didn't happen. And I said this to

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Speaker 2: JC at halftime.

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Speaker 1: Bob, you know, the first couple weeks of camp, the

810
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: passing game seemed to be a little timing was off

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Speaker 1: and some inaccuracies.

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00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 2: But then it kind of got turned around later in camp.

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Speaker 1: Let's hope this is a mirror, right, You get this

814
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: stuff in week one, you get it out of the way,

815
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Speaker 1: and then it gets picked up starting next week with Washington.

816
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Speaker 1: Because then the next six games, as Jays mentioned, all

817
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: against teams that finished over five hundred last year, So

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00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: it gets tough quick.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but the Bengals are like the Giants. They're all

820
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 6: in one.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: And look, and I will say this, a lot of

823
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: weird things happening with one every year. Sure the question

824
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: don't look like themselves. Weird things happen, and then weird

825
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: things happen in week two, which is why people get

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00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: slaughtered in those knockout. It is absolutely true, Bob, good

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Speaker 1: stuff today, Thank you. All right, all right, let's take

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Speaker 1: a time out. When we come back, Carl Banks would

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Speaker 1: join us for a segment as we continue on Giants

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Speaker 1: Extra Point, Giants Faull to the Vikings twenty eight six.

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Speaker 7: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the Wfan

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Speaker 7: Giants radio network.

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Speaker 4: This is Bobby Ocarake and you're listening to the radio

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Speaker 4: home of Big Blue the Fan, WFAN and Wfan FM,

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Speaker 4: New York.

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Speaker 6: Empty set.

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Speaker 28: Donald in a shotgun calls out signals, takes the snap

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Speaker 28: back to throw side on right to ham under the

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Speaker 28: catches it.

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Speaker 8: At the fifteen cover of the football recovered by the Giants.

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Speaker 28: Dudot the recovery Drew Phillips knocked it out.

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Speaker 2: The official was saying, yes, that.

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Speaker 1: Was today's play. The game brought to you by your

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Speaker 1: US Giants ball to the Vikings twenty eight to six

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Speaker 1: here in their home opener of twenty twenty four. Now

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Speaker 1: we're joined by Karl Banks, little spot on TV for US.

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Speaker 1: Now he's up here doing radio, the man of all media,

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Speaker 1: mister Banks. We just heard the play of the game

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Speaker 1: for the Giants. It was Bobby Okarake fumble recovery with

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Speaker 1: the fumble forced by rookie Drew Phillips. The in fact,

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Speaker 1: it was the first play that he was even in

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Speaker 1: his game. They were in base defense the first two snaps.

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Speaker 1: That was the third one.

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Speaker 2: I thought.

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Speaker 1: The rookies, if you want to take some glimmer of

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Speaker 1: light ahead of this game, you saw some of the

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Speaker 1: rookies make some plays throughout.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, well, it was feast or famine with the rookies

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Speaker 26: because Drew Phillips had He's a really good tackler. Forced

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Speaker 26: to fumbles, we had some good plays. Morsu had some

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Speaker 26: good plays and then he had one, you know, glaring

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Speaker 26: one on a seam route up the up the seam.

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Speaker 26: That was a big play for the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: So they're learning.

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Speaker 26: And I said this prior to this game, that you're

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Speaker 26: gonna have to live with some of these things until

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Speaker 26: these kids come of age. But overall, I just think

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Speaker 26: they need to be better. I think they know they

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Speaker 26: need to be better, not just the rookies, but the

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Speaker 26: veterans too. I don't think Minnesota did that much. It

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Speaker 26: was just more of the Giants not executing their game plan.

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Speaker 26: Like if you listen to the players in the locker room,

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Speaker 26: I heard Burn say, hey, look, they didn't do anything

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Speaker 26: that we didn't expect them to do. I heard the

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Speaker 26: coach say, well, nope, they just played you know cover.

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Speaker 26: They didn't blitz as much, but that shouldn't have affected us.

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Speaker 3: But yet.

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Speaker 26: One team looked like a preseason game and the other

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Speaker 26: one looked like a regular season game.

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Speaker 1: Nic that's my question for you. Brian Dable was asked

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Speaker 1: a question during his press conference. Is there anything you

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Speaker 1: can point to walking out of this game that you

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Speaker 1: can say, all right, well we did that pretty well,

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Speaker 1: And he said, right now, I really can't think of anything.

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Speaker 1: So when you see an across the board issue with

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Speaker 1: the team struggling on both sides, a lot of mistakes,

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00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: penalties go down the list.

891
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: We've been through it already. You and Bob did a

892
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: good job going through it during the game.

893
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: How do you address that when you can't even grasp

894
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: on the one thing we can say, well, if we

895
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: build on this and just when everything goes wrong in

896
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: a game like this, well we are.

897
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 26: Sitting you know, from a higher level of visual of visuals,

898
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 26: they hone in on it and they can look at

899
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 26: whose responsibility was what and what they could play go

900
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 26: better or worse, and then you can they can fix that.

901
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 26: But for us it just as a whole, it looks sloppy, right,

902
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 26: and for them they can pinpoint why a play didn't work.

903
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 26: You know, for instance, there were some passes by Daniel Jones.

904
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 26: You don't know if it was receiver stopping or Daniel

905
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 26: just being inaccurate, right. There were other ones where Daniel

906
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 26: throws it a little high and the guy drops it.

907
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 26: You know, that's the obvious. But what can they do

908
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 26: better to create better timing for their offense? You know,

909
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 26: Daniel gets a sack, I think his last sack of

910
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 26: the game. He drifts left, and then the say, the

911
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 26: pass rusher comes off the block and makes a sack,

912
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 26: So could he be better in the pocket?

913
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 6: Is he moving the wrong way?

914
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 29: Hey?

915
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 26: All of these things they have to clean up because

916
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 26: your opponent's gonna say, hey, look at this film. All

917
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 26: we got to do is bring energy and they'll beat themselves.

918
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: And two Bob's point earlier, Jason, you do, honestly have

919
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: to look at the tape for a lot of the

920
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: stuff to figure out the type of particulars that Crawl's

921
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: talking about. You know, I always sit down Monday morning,

922
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: I go through it, and I always think things differently

923
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: after I go through the tape on Monday than after

924
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: I walk out of here on the post game show

925
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: on a Sunday. So, if you're a player and you're

926
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: sitting down for your film session tomorrow after a game

927
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: like this, how do you go through it to figure

928
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: out exactly what you fix?

929
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: Not only is a team before yourself as an individual?

930
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 3: Well, I think you first start look at yourself, you know,

931
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: look what you can do to help, you know, play better,

932
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 3: to improve your personal play. And then if there's anything

933
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: out there that you can you know, see that maybe

934
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: collectively that y'all are not performing well together as a

935
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: linebacker room, you know, not play linebacker, you know, But

936
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 3: it's just self improvement, you know. It's not one player

937
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: gonna change the whole defense. You know, it's a mentality

938
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 3: that everybody has to have. I feel like whatever mentality

939
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: might have had in the first half, it kind of

940
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: got erased by the second half. And that's not good.

941
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: You know, Like I said earlier, when they were competing, right,

942
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: it's the game was still going on. It was a

943
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: third quarter. Yes, it was kind of out of control,

944
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 3: but the game is not over, right. I did not

945
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 3: see the sense of urgency there. I didn't see them

946
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: getting to the ball lining up. I didn't see them

947
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: running off the field Jaycee.

948
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: Even at twenty one six when DJ throws to pick Sex,

949
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: it's just a two score game at that point, right

950
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: in the third quarter.

951
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: Right, the game is still not out of reach.

952
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: Right, but still though, it's still a game and anything

953
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: can happen, you know, like you it's it was sad

954
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: to see that this defense that just made a defensive stop.

955
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: You can see their body language as they walk off

956
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 3: the field. You know, it's it's not just a poor

957
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: performance by the offense. It's a defense that's supposed to

958
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 3: be dominant that didn't hold up to that. And they're

959
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: also like having the same type of body language as

960
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: the offense. It's a collective effort. It's not one person,

961
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: it's not one group. It's a collective effort. To lose

962
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: like this at home opening week.

963
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 26: Yeah, I mean it. They have to be better, point

964
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 26: blank across the board. Now you give the other guys credit.

965
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 26: Where to do They have two very good tackles. That's

966
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 26: probably the strength of their offensive line. So you knew

967
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 26: that your edge rushers are gonna earn their paycheck. One

968
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 26: guy got there a few more times, but Thibodeau didn't

969
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 26: have anything on the stat sheet. So they just gotta

970
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 26: be better. If you're gonna be as good as you

971
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 26: say you are, as good as people are saying you are,

972
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 26: you gotta show up and.

973
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: Do some things.

974
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 26: And they're just not. They just haven't.

975
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 18: They didn't impact this game call.

976
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: You mentioned Brian Burns and what he said after the game.

977
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: We have audio from him in the locker room. Let's

978
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: take a listen to Brian Burns after the giants twenty

979
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: eight to six.

980
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 9: Loss well decks had a second yeah, early first series.

981
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 14: Yeah. Other than that, we were around them.

982
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 9: I got a couple of hits on in case you

983
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 9: got a couple of hit songs. It was just hard

984
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 9: to get get them off their game plan and.

985
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 12: Get them on full the track.

986
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 4: You know.

987
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 9: They they they did a good job of execute 'em

988
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 9: what they wanted to do.

989
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 30: And uh you know that's play action shots to eighteen.

990
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 30: You know, try to try to load you down with

991
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 30: it with the ring games, okay, and uh they.

992
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 14: Kind of do that.

993
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 16: What do you when you just can't hit, can't get

994
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 16: it going? Yes, the team really y'all offensively and game

995
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 16: like this?

996
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 9: What do you do in terms of were you ask?

997
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 21: Like going forward?

998
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 20: Yeah?

999
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 9: Going forward and talking about end the game? Where after?

1000
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 16: So, like one game is behind you now as you

1001
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 16: go forward, what's your what's your approach?

1002
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 29: Uh?

1003
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 9: So I always get back to the drum. But it's

1004
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 9: getting better. You know, it's gonna be a whole new week.

1005
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 16: We up on it.

1006
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 9: So now that this is behind us, you learn from

1007
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 9: the mistakes and any move on.

1008
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 16: How'd you supporty?

1009
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 18: Is this for your first game with the Giants?

1010
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 16: You know, expecting to do the place Was it electric

1011
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 16: with a lot of them money to sure?

1012
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was great, great vibe. The fans came out,

1013
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 9: they were loud. Great.

1014
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 30: Uh, Like I said, football was football, you know, momentum

1015
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 30: switches and it's just football.

1016
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 9: You know, you know, anything can happen.

1017
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 30: So you know, I wouldn't say disappointed, cause I just

1018
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 30: know how the game go up and playing for a

1019
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 30: while and I know how things can get.

1020
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 16: Was it interesting how quickly the fans turned on your halftime?

1021
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 16: They're booing you the third quarter there and.

1022
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 29: Brian, we we're not used to seeing Donald be as

1023
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 29: sharp as he was today, but he was sposed to

1024
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 29: eleven passes out of the gate. Did you see anything

1025
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 29: different about him than what you've seen on film.

1026
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 9: No, I've told y'all Donnall was talented. On you know,

1027
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 9: I told you we had to get around him. We

1028
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 9: had to affect him, which I feel like Rich had

1029
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 9: a good job of. But at times, you know, he

1030
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 9: was able to stay on track. But nah, I told

1031
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 9: you he was talented. So I mean I didn't. I don't.

1032
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 9: I don't overlook opponents, you know. So, and I played

1033
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 9: with him for two years.

1034
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 16: Coach said this team was really prepared, the Giants were

1035
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 16: ready to go, and just is he gonna look at

1036
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 16: the table and try to evaluate what happened? Can you

1037
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 16: put your finger on anything specific for today.

1038
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 9: Not exactly. You know, you got to watch the film,

1039
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 9: you know, and every release he goes for a happy win.

1040
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 18: Gass and go from there.

1041
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: And Carl, I think a big reason Sam Donald was

1042
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: so sharp, as Brian Burns made the point they were

1043
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: around him, didn't get to him enough.

1044
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 2: He had a lot of clean pockets.

1045
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: And this has been a consistent factor for the Giants

1046
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: the last two years, Carl, No team has scored fewer

1047
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: points in the New York Giants and first quarters in

1048
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: the last two seasons. Yeah, come out of the gate

1049
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: slow once the Viking's gonna lead like that, they don't

1050
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: have to force Sam Donald to force anything down the field,

1051
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: and that's how we protect the football.

1052
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 26: Yeah, I mean, he's They didn't put him in a

1053
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 26: lot of situations where he had to make plays either.

1054
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: Let's just be honest, exactly.

1055
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 26: You know, they kept the chains moving there down in distance.

1056
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 26: Management was great and he took you know, he made

1057
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 26: two really good plays that really made the difference in

1058
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 26: this game. The Jefferson play and then the seam route.

1059
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 26: So he didn't turn you know, he didn't he didn't

1060
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 26: turn into the guy that people thought he would. During

1061
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 26: the course of his game, he was in control and

1062
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 26: he ran their offense effectively.

1063
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: And a lot of that Jac was the run game.

1064
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: When you can't stop the run game consistently and you're

1065
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: not putting him in you know, bad second, long, third

1066
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: and longs and again if they're playing from ahead, all right,

1067
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: it's third and twelve.

1068
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: You complete a pass for eight yards and your punt.

1069
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: You gotta live with that.

1070
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: It's not like you're sitting there and you have to

1071
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: convert this third down because you're down two scores in

1072
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: the third quarter.

1073
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: That's when mistakes tend to happen.

1074
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And we talked about Justin Jefferson, you know,

1075
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: all week leading up to it, leading you know, the

1076
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: broadcast earlier today before the game, and I said, it's

1077
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: not only about Justin Jefferson. You have to stop Aaron

1078
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: Jones because Aaron Jones will open up holes for Justin Jefferson.

1079
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: Because if you can run the ball efficiently and effectively,

1080
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: then you cannot take that seven for eighth man out

1081
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 3: the box. A lot of people like to do double

1082
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: coverage against guys like that. But if you have the

1083
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: option to run a really talented running back that you

1084
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 3: know runs hard, that you know can get outside the box,

1085
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: which he's done, you can't have you safeties deep. Then

1086
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: you know it's hard to do that, you know. So

1087
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: and they affected did that, you know, Aaron Jones. You know,

1088
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: as the game went longer and longer, he got stronger

1089
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 3: and stronger against I think a defense that kind of

1090
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: they didn't give up. I'm not gonna say anything like that,

1091
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: but they kind of bended a little bit in the

1092
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: second half.

1093
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: And they bent, but then they left the team into

1094
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: the end zone, which is a big problem here, Carl.

1095
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: You know, Shane Bones defense coming in historically it's been

1096
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: excelling in the red zone. But the Vikings were able

1097
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: to get in the end zone when they got inside

1098
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: the red zone today.

1099
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 26: Yeah, I mean, they executed it very well. That's the

1100
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 26: difference in this game. I think. You know, when you

1101
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 26: look at on paper, this Minnesota Vikings team was in

1102
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 26: the Giants weight class, ye and they just outclassed the

1103
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 26: Giants in every phase of the game today. And there's

1104
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 26: just really you know, they just got to go get

1105
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 26: it fixed, and they got to do it while, you know,

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Speaker 26: while getting ready for another team, because it's you know,

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Speaker 26: these are issues that have continued to rear themselves if

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Speaker 26: they do not get them fixed.

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Speaker 1: Carl, thanks for problem about up here with my friend.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. You're got broadcast. We'll see Carl next week.

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Speaker 1: Giants take on the Commanders in another Sunday game in one.

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Speaker 1: Our coverage on the network begins at noon locally here

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Speaker 1: Verizon America's most reliable network. Quick time out. We'll come

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Speaker 1: back here from the league neighbors. Then we'll wrap up

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Speaker 1: the network portion of our postgame show right here. After

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Speaker 1: the giants twenty eight to six defeat to the Vikings

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Speaker 1: in their opener at MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 7: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the Wfan Giants

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Speaker 5: This is Brian Day, we'll head football coach in New

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Speaker 1: Back here at MetLife Stadium, Giants fall to the Vikings

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Speaker 1: in their opener of the twenty twenty four season, twenty

1131
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: eight to six. Not a lot of good news to

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Speaker 1: go around, Loan bright spot for the Giants has to

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Speaker 1: be the play of their rookie wide receiver Malik Neighbors.

1134
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Speaker 1: He was the Giants' sixth overall pick in the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four NFL draft.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen to him after the game in the locker

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Speaker 2: room league.

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Speaker 29: What did what did you think about your first regular

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00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 29: season the NFL game in terms.

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Speaker 14: Of the champos, speed and things and that feel personally?

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Speaker 24: You know, I feel like I did pretty well for

1142
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 24: my first game. You know, tempo slowed down since you know,

1143
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 24: since I first got out there, but still a lot

1144
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 24: of stuff to learn to a lot of something to

1145
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 24: look over the fem and fix.

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00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 29: What kind of stuff did you see from their defense?

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00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 29: I mean, it's clear everybody knows that you are, so

1148
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 29: there must have been some things that if they were

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00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 29: thrown at you, that would make it a little bit

1150
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 29: more complicated than the preseason.

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Speaker 24: I mean, nothing different than I saw a film. A

1152
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 24: lot of jump Tampa, really a lot of cover too.

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00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 24: We just gotta capitalize and stay on track. Really, we

1154
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 24: beat ourselves so that we had a lot of penalties

1155
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 24: that we need to fix on. So, you know, staying

1156
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 24: from backed up. You know when you backed up, it's

1157
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 24: kind of hard to get right on checks. So you

1158
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 24: gotta stay about of sticks.

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00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 29: Yeah, always difficult when he'll show many penalties. But what

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00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 29: do you think the other factor was in terms are

1161
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 29: being bobbed down on offensively? I know what also, coach, you.

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Speaker 18: Might have to play footall behind all the time.

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00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 24: Right, I mean, we gotta catch the ball. We got

1164
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 24: way too many job including myself, I had one. But

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Speaker 24: you know, when we get the opportunity to make a place,

1166
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 24: we gotta make those players.

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Speaker 18: And we didn't do that today.

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Speaker 20: Money got the light and then they couldn't get the ball.

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Speaker 20: In the first two or three series, I think, how

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00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 20: what was happening there? What was your action and not

1171
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Speaker 20: being able to get the ball, Cause it looked like,

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Speaker 20: based on preseason, Dable was gonna feed you pretty regular right,

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Speaker 20: I mean.

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Speaker 24: Just look over the from see how many see what

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00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 24: ways we can give me the ball in space? You

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00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 24: know we Dan you said he was trying to give

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Speaker 24: me the ball. He saw a lot of persson in

1178
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Speaker 24: his face, So I mean I can't control that. So

1179
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 24: you know, they try to give me the ball, just

1180
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 24: stuff wasn't ricking right, So we just gotta fix that up.

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Speaker 9: What emotions are you feeling right now?

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00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 6: Frustration?

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Speaker 24: I mean, you know it's you gonna lose games. It's

1184
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 24: how it really you bounce back first game of the season,

1185
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 24: does reason determine your season? So you know, we just

1186
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 24: gotta keep on going as a team in the league.

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Speaker 14: You guys offensively, I'm sure and help you for a

1188
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 14: much better showing than this.

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Speaker 18: So what are your thoughts on coming out and down

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Speaker 18: to touch down?

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Speaker 24: I mean, first game of the season, A lot of

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00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 24: new stuff going on?

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Speaker 14: Uh lot you all line.

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Speaker 24: So you know, we just gotta you know, over the family,

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00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 24: practice way harder than we did.

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Speaker 12: It Just come out better next week.

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Speaker 14: I mean that's all really we can do.

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Speaker 29: Uh.

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Speaker 18: I mean you mentioned the practice stuff. How did you

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Speaker 18: feel like a tempting to practice this past week?

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Speaker 12: Simple?

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Speaker 18: And practice was pretty good?

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Speaker 24: Like I said, you know, a lot of penalties was

1204
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Speaker 24: better today. You know, we can stay above you know,

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Speaker 24: keep on getting first down, stay past the third down,

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Speaker 24: fourth down.

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Speaker 14: You know, they can help offense, you know, create some

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Speaker 14: big plays.

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Speaker 20: Are you used to You guys weren't able to get

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Speaker 20: the ball downfield. I don't know if there was a

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Speaker 20: twenty thirty yard throw attempted all game. And that's what

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Speaker 20: the whole all of training camp was pushing the ball downfield.

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Speaker 24: I mean, we was taking what they give us. I mean,

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00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 24: you know, they playing a lot of his own. You know,

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Speaker 24: there was blitzing running run down the quarterback, so you know,

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Speaker 24: we were just trying to get the ball. And you know,

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Speaker 24: and those coverages that they were trying to do get

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00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 24: the ball in space, they were doing a really good

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Speaker 24: job of saying over the top of us receivers. So

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Speaker 24: you know, Dany was just trying to get it in

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00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 24: those spotsa you know, open zone sees.

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Speaker 16: How do you how do you put this aside quickly?

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Speaker 16: You have a lot of games still ahead.

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00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 24: Right, I mean you just gotta go over the film,

1225
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 24: go back and practice tomorrow, look at the tape and

1226
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Speaker 24: be better next time.

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Speaker 14: I mean, that's all you can do really.

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Speaker 1: Very measured but sure. Press conference by Malik Dahbors. You

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00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: talked about this in the preseason JC and we thought

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Speaker 1: he hand himself very well, pretty consistently.

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Speaker 2: But we're like, all right, well let's see what happens.

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Speaker 1: You get in the regular season game things don't go right,

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Speaker 1: and how he handles it, pay hand himself pretty well. There,

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00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: pretty good balanced answers talking about the team as a whole,

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Speaker 1: understanding that you know, he had a roll on it,

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Speaker 1: everyone has to do a little bit better, and not

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Speaker 1: pointing the finger at anybody.

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Speaker 2: I thought he did a really nice job there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. I mean he had a pretty good game.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think it's easy to have a pretty good conversation

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Speaker 3: afterwards when you played pretty well even though your team lost.

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Speaker 3: You know, so let's see, if you know, I don't

1244
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 3: want to say he's gonna play not play well, but

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00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 3: you know there's other people that didn't play well that

1246
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: I think, you know, managed themselves very well.

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Speaker 2: But listen, and he was okay about he had five.

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00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: He's he's an absolute stunt, you know. And I think

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00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: he had a little drop today, but you know, how

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00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: many drops total did the team had? Five, six, four

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00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 3: or five. Yeah, you know that's that's a number that's

1252
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Speaker 3: way too high.

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00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: Fox had five on their graphic in the second half.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that that number is way too high. And

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Speaker 3: with the inconsistent play from I think the quarterback position

1257
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones today, you know, those receivers needed to bring

1258
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: those balls and to keep it compective.

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when a quarterback is struggle and you

1260
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: need maybe, yeah, elevate him a little bit, give him

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Speaker 1: some help. Maybe that'll help him find a little bit

1262
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: of a rhythm and it. You know, and even when

1263
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: they had that second drive after they had the initial field,

1264
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: well they get across midfield, they have first and ten

1265
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: in the territory of the Vikings, they have two penalties,

1266
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden there I think they second

1267
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Speaker 1: and twenty sixth Paul, I think that something like that,

1268
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Speaker 1: and you're not helping yourself when your offense is a

1269
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: little at a sinc You can't then hurt yourself with

1270
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: penalties to put yourself in those situations where they knocked

1271
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Speaker 1: themselves out of field over you know.

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Speaker 29: John, I had two thoughts about this that I really

1273
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Speaker 29: wanted to get out when I got up here to

1274
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 29: the booth, and number one was we were all very

1275
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 29: curious to see how Neighbors would be played by the defense.

1276
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 29: And they did a lot of zoning on him. They

1277
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 29: did not do a lot of guys sticking to him. Okay, well,

1278
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 29: they didn't play it hardly any man the whole game

1279
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 29: at all. It was very little, very little, and we

1280
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 29: were all curious about that. See, once Neighbors establishes himself

1281
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 29: in this league, and we talked about it, it could

1282
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 29: take two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, who knows how many,

1283
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 29: and he establishes himself as a headache player, how are

1284
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 29: defenses going to play him? Because right out of the box,

1285
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 29: they want to make him prove himself at the NFL level.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, though, Paul, I thought they treated him a little

1287
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: bit like a headache player today, to be totally honest

1288
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: with you, on that first drive, I believe it was

1289
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones' second drop back.

1290
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 2: He drops back to throw.

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Speaker 1: They were trying to hit Neighbors, I think, on a slant,

1292
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: and they had brought the safety over to undercut the slant.

1293
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: So I thought I thought early they knew the Giants

1294
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: were trying to get the ball to him, which is

1295
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: why again they tried to scheme up that play. I

1296
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: think it was Jones the second pass of the game,

1297
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: and he remember he had to he looked over there,

1298
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: he pumped it, he to throw it back and then

1299
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Speaker 1: he got it out into the flat.

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00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,479
Speaker 2: Remember he had to go to the opposide of the field.

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Speaker 1: The singletary on this side ended up losing six yards

1302
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: on the play, but they did try to get the

1303
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: neighbors early.

1304
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: But I thought the Vikings were all over it.

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00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 18: Yeah.

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00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was the play where they

1307
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: only had one ride receiver in the field too.

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Speaker 2: It might have been.

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Speaker 29: What bothers me though, John, is when you respect a

1310
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 29: guy who's gonna make big plays, a headache player, not

1311
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 29: only do you have a plan in place for him,

1312
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 29: but you also don't give him as much space as

1313
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 29: he had.

1314
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Speaker 2: Neighbors had a lot of space today. Well, they were

1315
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 2: playing soft zone.

1316
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 29: They absolutely played soft zone, and with a guy who's

1317
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 29: supposed to be a yack monster. If you give a

1318
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 29: guy like that space, he's supposed to burn the living

1319
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 29: crap out of you with yak yardage, because once you

1320
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 29: give him space, he catches the ball and now he

1321
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 29: makes his move and it's too late for you to

1322
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Speaker 29: do anything.

1323
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I go back and watch them all off

1324
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: to see how much space he had at the lineup,

1325
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: and I will do the same as well when I

1326
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: go back. But I'm my initial feeling is that they

1327
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: did give him a lot of space to catch the

1328
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: ball and then do something, and that, you know, that

1329
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: was one thing.

1330
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 29: But the second thing I wanted to say is, and

1331
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 29: I asked Jonathan this, and this is just me. I'm

1332
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 29: not an NFL head coach, but when everything is going wrong,

1333
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 29: and it really was going wrong for the offense, they

1334
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 29: look so discombobulated. It looked like every guy on offense

1335
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 29: needed a name tag to identify the guy they were

1336
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 29: playing with. That's how this joint that they looked during

1337
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 29: the course of the day. I just said to Jonathan,

1338
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 29: just to change it up. They didn't go to a

1339
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 29: no huddle offense till the first play of the fourth quarter.

1340
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 29: Just to change things up. I might have gotten a

1341
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 29: quicker tempo going rush guys up to the line. Maybe

1342
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 29: go with a couple of no huddle plays, a two

1343
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 29: win in offense and try to run some real quick

1344
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 29: stuff just to see if that could ignite the gas

1345
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 29: on the stove and get something going. They just kept

1346
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 29: with the same huddle up, methodically coming out, watching the

1347
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 29: play clock drain down, and then hiking the ball.

1348
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: That was odd.

1349
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like they went passive on offense.

1350
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 3: I feel like early on in the game they looked

1351
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: like they wanted to attack downfield. Maybe they didn't take

1352
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: advantage of every opportunity they had. But then in the

1353
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 3: second half, how many times did we see them actually

1354
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 3: throw the ball past the line of screen?

1355
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: Well, I wonder seeing all that too deep zone and

1356
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: cloud coverages they were seeing if they tried to lean

1357
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: into the wrung. We saw they come out in thirteen

1358
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: personnel a couple of times after we started the second half.

1359
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: We I think maybe they thought, based on how the

1360
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: Vikings were playing, they would have to pound the ball

1361
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: a little bit, and they were okay running the ball,

1362
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: but they weren't making those type of chunk explosive plays

1363
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: you can that really would make a team come out

1364
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: of that too safety show.

1365
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 29: And that's part of the issue when you talk about Singletary,

1366
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 29: who's durable and reliable and steady, but he's not an

1367
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 29: explosive back. He's not the kind of guys And you

1368
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 29: know this, Jonathan, you played linebacker. Singletary gets to the

1369
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 29: second level. Okay, if he gets a ten or fifteen

1370
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 29: yard game, that's about the best you're gonna get. He's

1371
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 29: not breaking it for thirty thirty five or taking it

1372
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 29: to the house. No, that's not the kind of player

1373
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 29: he is. And as a defensive player, you know that.

1374
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 29: So you plague him differently, don't you.

1375
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly one hundred percent. But he'll fit into a

1376
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: good offense that they can rely on him to get

1377
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 3: certain yards when they need him, because that's what he is.

1378
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 3: He's not the home run hitter type of guy. He's

1379
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 3: very reliable, he's very durable. But this is what I did.

1380
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: I didn't like about the offense. They talked about their interception.

1381
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 3: What happened on that play? You know, I know what

1382
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 3: happened on that play. It was a four by one play.

1383
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: There's only two players you can run out of it.

1384
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: It's a screen front side and there's a slap back side.

1385
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 3: That's the only play you can run. And Van Ginkel

1386
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 3: he didn't even rush. He just waited. And like that's

1387
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 3: because at times they were predictable.

1388
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: Is there anything illuminate or can do to make sure

1389
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: he can't hands up? Cut block them, get him down.

1390
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: Yep, cut block them. Yeah, there's there's things that you

1391
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 3: can do. I've seen it. I've played against it where

1392
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, now passes coming, but I'm getting my

1393
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: legs chopped out.

1394
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: I figured on a play like that, you would it

1395
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: looked like he took his traditional vertical set on that.

1396
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: I thought you might want to try to short set

1397
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: than gkle on that play, knowing you have to kind

1398
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 1: of create that passing lane.

1399
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 3: So it's it's it's about execution, right.

1400
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 16: You know.

1401
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: You can have a scheme and if it's the wrong call,

1402
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 3: if everybody's wrong, but they executed correctly, it's probably gonna

1403
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 3: end up. Okay, you know what I mean. But if

1404
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: somebody misses something here, somebody doesn't do something, do something right,

1405
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 3: and it could blow up in front of you, like

1406
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 3: we saw. I don't know exactly what happened on that play,

1407
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 3: but what I saw Van Ginko did not rush. I

1408
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: will say that he stayed.

1409
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: It was a heck of a play.

1410
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was.

1411
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 29: It was, it was, it was it is and sometimes

1412
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 29: sometimes the defense just calls exactly the right play for

1413
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 29: the formation you're in.

1414
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But like I said that four by one play,

1415
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 3: there's only two things you can run out of it

1416
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 3: backside slant or front side bubble or some type of

1417
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 3: now route.

1418
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: And Van Gongle is a smart player.

1419
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: He's a guy that one of the reasons they brought

1420
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: him in this off So he played for floor Is

1421
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: in Miami, absolutely, and it's one of the guys he

1422
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 1: want him here in this scheme. All right, everybody, please

1423
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: stick with us if you're listening on our local flashlip

1424
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: station WFAN, But it is time to say goodbye to

1425
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: our affiliates across the country on the Giants Radio Network.

1426
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: Our next broadcast will be next Sunday, when the Giants

1427
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: travel to take on the Washington Commanders, with our pregame

1428
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: show beginning at noon on our network eleven am locally

1429
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: here on WFAN. Thanks for listening to us today and

1430
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: we'll see you next week on the WFAN Giants Radio Network.

1431
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: But we are not done right here on the Fan

1432
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: in New York, Johnathan Casias, Paul Detina, We're with you

1433
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: for the next forty five minutes. Or so taking your

1434
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: calls will open up the phones right now if you

1435
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: want to get in at eight eight eight, eight oh

1436
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: eight one zero, one to nine. More sound from the

1437
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: locker room is always look under the four or five

1438
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: indus we have not and yet that and more when

1439
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: we returned right here to MetLife Stadium, We'll be right back.

1440
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 2: Back here on Giants extra point.

1441
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: John Schwelt, Paul Detino, Jonathan can see us twenty eight

1442
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: to six. The Giants fall to the Minnesota Vikings. Here

1443
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: they begin their year zero and one. Let's take a

1444
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 1: listen to Dexter Lawrence. You had a chance to talk

1445
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: to the media after the game. He was, frankly, guys,

1446
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: one of the few Giants on this defense that I

1447
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: thought played pretty well. PFS has their initial detailed pass

1448
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: rush grades out there, and I don't care about the grade,

1449
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: but they have them for the sack early a quarterback

1450
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: hit in addition to the sack. They don't count them

1451
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: as the same category, right and then six hurries, so

1452
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: eight total pressures in this game for Dexter Lawrence, So

1453
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: not a surprise. He was the giants best defender. And

1454
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: again this is the early stat counting by pff, just

1455
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: fourteen pressures for the Giants in the game. No other

1456
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: player had more than two over the course of this game.

1457
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: So Dexter, Lawrence was really the one guy that.

1458
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 3: Was a consistent only twenty four drop back.

1459
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: A factor and yeah he had he had eight pressures

1460
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: on twenty two pass rushing snaps.

1461
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 2: That is something else. That's a really good day. Really,

1462
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: So let's listen to dex draft of the game.

1463
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 16: Dexter, how would you explain what's popping out there today?

1464
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 24: Uh?

1465
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 32: We lost, That's the only way to put it. No

1466
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 32: panic though week one, We've got a lot to learn. Yeah,

1467
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 32: it's just we just lost.

1468
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 16: Why would Sam darl so effective.

1469
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 18: His receivers are catching the ball. I don't know, Like.

1470
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 32: I mean, we just gotta, you know, play a little

1471
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 32: tighter covers, we gotta get to quarterback a little faster.

1472
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 32: It's a we gotta work with more as a unit.

1473
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 32: Any panic after one game, No, no pan?

1474
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 16: Why?

1475
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 12: Uh?

1476
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 32: Because I know who we have in the locker room.

1477
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 32: I trust everyone. Everybody in the locker room.

1478
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 18: We know we have confidence in each other, and you

1479
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 18: know we prepared well. They just they just meet us

1480
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 18: to the next year.

1481
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 17: You have the team down to one door night next

1482
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 17: where you have to bear and how difficult it was?

1483
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 12: What they give up a ninety nine yards down? Uh?

1484
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 32: Pretty difficult. You know, few plays that led to touchdowns

1485
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 32: for now, a couple of colties. Uh, we gotta clean up.

1486
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 18: On other than that. You know we're playing on pretty

1487
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 18: well on defense. Uh, you know, you just gotta be

1488
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 18: more consistent.

1489
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 3: You heard out.

1490
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 18: Obviously the track was excited. Okay, had a nice half

1491
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 18: time players.

1492
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 14: On defense, not offense, but give us some you know,

1493
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 14: fans not so very happy.

1494
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 18: A lot of points through the stage.

1495
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 30: Did you hear that on the side?

1496
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 31: Uh?

1497
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 18: Could I? Could I hear the fans? Yeah? I mean

1498
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 18: you know, did they ever many fans there are?

1499
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 26: Yeah?

1500
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 3: Pulling at home?

1501
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 18: Yeah? Could I hear them? Yeah? Kind you can't get

1502
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 18: another question?

1503
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 14: Do you pay?

1504
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 9: How?

1505
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 14: What do you make of that?

1506
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 18: What do you make of Uh?

1507
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 32: I mean I I uh, I don't respect it, Honestly,

1508
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 32: I get it. They want to see their team win.

1509
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 32: You know, it's just just a rough pass, Uh, I mean,

1510
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 32: it just is.

1511
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 9: What it is.

1512
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 29: Next, after a tough first half, you guys came in

1513
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 29: at halftime and I'm sure that you were thinking things

1514
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 29: could turn around in the third quarter, and then they didn't.

1515
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,479
Speaker 29: What adjustments were you trying to make that just didn't

1516
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 29: seem to work out, you.

1517
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 18: Know, just clean up on some penalties. Uh, you know,

1518
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 18: that's that was the biggest thing.

1519
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 13: You know.

1520
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 18: Defense, we had to do better on second and long.

1521
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 21: Uh.

1522
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 32: I think I think we came out in the second

1523
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 32: half and played pretty tough defense. Uh, but you know,

1524
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 32: at the end of the day, we lost. We gotta

1525
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 32: go in tomorrow and get the corrections and prepare again.

1526
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 29: I just asked it some encouragement from new ben Moorisal Phillips.

1527
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 29: All these rookies made some significant plays. Yeah, and and

1528
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 29: what does that tell you about those kids?

1529
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 13: Uh?

1530
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 32: You know, just just that want too and you know,

1531
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 32: just their confidence in themselves and their their readiness to

1532
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 32: be go out there and play as men.

1533
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 18: Snats they did and you know, do it that effective level.

1534
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 18: So you know, I'm proud of them.

1535
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 21: Uh.

1536
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 18: You know, you just gotta you can't let that excitement,

1537
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 18: you know, carricter. Next week. Next week is the new week,

1538
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 18: and we gotta go out there and prove ourself.

1539
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Speaker 9: Speaking of speaking of the Brookiees, what you see what

1540
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 9: Chapain is sitting next to you.

1541
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 18: Uh good.

1542
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 17: Uh.

1543
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 32: You know Chad, he's very explosive, strong, little short dude,

1544
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 32: but uh, you know he got heart and he got

1545
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 32: want to and you know that's all you can aks

1546
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 32: for a partner next to you.

1547
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 4: So would you say, is the key to making sure

1548
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 4: that one disappointed game doesn't turn into streams?

1549
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 12: Uh?

1550
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 32: I think it's on the leaders, the captains of the team,

1551
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 32: just to you know, get everybody mind's right ready for

1552
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 32: the new week. Uh, flush this Uh own it first

1553
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 32: of all. You know, own your bad plays, own your

1554
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 32: good plays. And I think it's just on us to

1555
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,919
Speaker 32: to turn the page and you know, get the guys

1556
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 32: ready for the new week, new challenge.

1557
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 11: When you look at tape, is there a certain plays

1558
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 11: that you're looking for with just seeing closer on tape?

1559
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 32: Uh, you know, just some runs that broke you know,

1560
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,919
Speaker 32: for me, that's for me, That's what I'm probably looking

1561
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,959
Speaker 32: for the most. Some runs that broke through the line.

1562
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 32: You know, some sacks that that could have been could

1563
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 32: have been had. And then for it back end at

1564
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 32: just just the coverage part of things, you know, just

1565
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 32: we just got we just got to come out on

1566
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 32: Sunday and play better. Let's say we looked at the holes.

1567
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 32: They didn't go.

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01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 18: I don't look for the I don't look for holes anymore.

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01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: Today's stats are brought to you by the Archdiocese of

1570
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: New York. Learn more at Inner City NYC dot org.

1571
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: A thirty six percent pressure rate for Dexter Lawrence in

1572
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: this game again, eight pressures on twenty two pass rushing attempts.

1573
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: No other Giant had a higher than a ten percent

1574
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: pressure rate. DJ Davidson actually had two pressures on on

1575
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: only nine pass rushers. That's a pretty small sample size,

1576
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: but he had a couple of pressures and no one

1577
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: else had two pressures. A couple of the numbers in

1578
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: this game, folks, I'll go. I'll give you Daniel Jones

1579
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: just twenty two or forty two, one hundred and eighty

1580
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: six yards, two picks. Devin Singletary ten carries thirty seven yards,

1581
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: six carries fifteen yards with Daniel Jones, who tried to

1582
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: lean into the quarterback running game a little bit in

1583
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: the first half, to not much effect. The league Neighbors

1584
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: led the way five catches sixty six yards won, though

1585
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: Robinson six catches forty four yards. Darius Slayton three catches

1586
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: twenty six yards, Devin Singletary four for fifteen, Theo Johnson

1587
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: one catch eighteen yards, Eric Gray, Tyrone, Tracy, Daniel Bellinger

1588
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: with a catch apiece.

1589
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 2: Tyler Nuban led the way with seven combined tackles.

1590
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: Darius Moss out of the interception off to deflection, he

1591
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: had six tackles.

1592
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 2: Ra Keem Nuniez Roaches had five.

1593
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: Four tackles a piece for Deontey Banks, Brian Burns and

1594
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: Drew Phillips. Drew Phillips also with that force fumble. Bobbio

1595
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: Kaca just three tackles in this game. Very odd for

1596
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: him to not have more tackles. He routinely gets over

1597
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: one hundred in a season. He did have that fumble

1598
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: recovery on the Drew Phillips forced fumble, and the only

1599
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: sack of the game was by Dexter Lawrence on that

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01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: first Vikings possession.

1601
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 2: For the Minnesota Vikings. We mentioned that earlier.

1602
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold super efficient nineteen of twenty four dred and

1603
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: eight yards two touchdowns is one pick coming off a

1604
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 1: deflected ball at the wine of scrimmage.

1605
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 2: Bad luck.

1606
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones fourteen carries ninety seven yards six points seven

1607
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: yards per carry. Not what you're looking for there. And

1608
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: then through the air against m darn only twenty four

1609
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: pass attempts. Justin Jefferson four catches fifty nine yards, including

1610
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: that touchdown. A forty four yard catch was the big

1611
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: play for him over the course of the game. Joan

1612
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: Addison three catches thirty five yards. He caught those two

1613
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: outthrows from Sam Donald on one drive the set up

1614
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: to touchdown. Two really nice to rows in front of

1615
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: Dick McLeod. Yeah Oliver their tight end two catches twenty

1616
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: seven yards, tight channel out of the backfield. That three

1617
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: catches interception for Harrison Smith in the end zone. Andrew

1618
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: Bank Ginkle. We talked about the pick six, a sack

1619
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: for Harrison Phillips up front, Andrew Van Ginkel and Jones

1620
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: had a couple of sacks as well. On the Vikings defense,

1621
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: So guys Dexter Lawrence was good, but again just not

1622
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: enough guys making plays on the defensive side of the ball.

1623
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: You never really and again because they had the lead early,

1624
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: we talked about the earlier poll.

1625
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: The Giants again behind early, you never really made that

1626
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: Viking offense uncomfortable and force them into difficult situations where

1627
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: you know, all right, so we punt here, that's okay,

1628
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 1: or off fourteenth to three, We'll live with that.

1629
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: That's right.

1630
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 29: It makes all the difference in the world when you

1631
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,919
Speaker 29: have to climb up hill the entire game. And quite frankly,

1632
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 29: and and maybe maybe you guys will share the same

1633
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 29: feeling here. After Drew Phillips forces the fumble, okay, and

1634
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 29: the Giants take over in positive territory and they settle

1635
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 29: for a field goal, it almost seemed to me like

1636
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 29: that's when things really started to cook for Minnesota.

1637
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 2: Right there early in the game.

1638
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 29: That was a moral victory for them to hold the

1639
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,879
Speaker 29: Giants to an early field goal after that takeaway.

1640
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 2: Jac brought that up right at halftime.

1641
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 3: I think it happened on the pass in appearance call

1642
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 3: for Dorrie Jackson, which was the ensuing drive, right, was

1643
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 3: that the next drive for the Vikings, and then they

1644
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 3: scored that drive as well. Plays like that they happen.

1645
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 29: You can't you know, you can't have a turning point

1646
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 29: of the game and you can't get that point.

1647
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 3: You know, It's like big plays that are gonna happen,

1648
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: you know, for you, for your team, and they're gonna

1649
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 3: happen against your team.

1650
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: Look, we talked about the overall poor performers, but there

1651
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 1: were some really big plays that that hurt this team badly.

1652
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: It's the Dori Jackson pass interference letting them get out

1653
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: of the shadow of their own end zone that you

1654
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: were touched out at the one yard line. They ran

1655
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: that little play action boot and I think was it

1656
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: the full back of the running back TI channel. I

1657
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: forget there were wide open when they kind of just

1658
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 1: slipped into touchdown drive and they go back and they score,

1659
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 1: and they would have forced a punt if a Dori

1660
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: Jackson doesn't run into the wide receiver.

1661
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 2: It's one of those classic underthrown balls.

1662
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: He got his head around, but it was after he

1663
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: made contact with the receivers, so it's kind of bang bang.

1664
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,560
Speaker 1: But I understood why they threw the penalty flag on that.

1665
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't think it was some type of an egregious play.

1666
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 2: I got it. There's a lot of contact. And then

1667
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: you had them fourth and two or fourth and three?

1668
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 25: Was it.

1669
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: Fourth and goal at the three? And that's a play.

1670
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: If you can get a stop there, you get some

1671
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: momentum back right and maybe you can get something going.

1672
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna give Sam Donald credit on that play

1673
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: because I thought Tay Banks actually had pretty decent coverage

1674
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: on Justin Jefferson on the plant and Jefferson and Donald

1675
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 1: put the ball where only Jefferson could get it, and

1676
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson, that's what Justin Jefferson does.

1677
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 3: Yes.

1678
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: But those were three of those kind of full crumb

1679
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: plays where the game can go one way or the other,

1680
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: and the Giants never had any of those full corom

1681
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: plays go their way over the course of the game.

1682
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 29: I mean, if you were gonna have any last gasp

1683
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 29: attempt at a shot of oxygen, it really went out

1684
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 29: of the Giants' lungs. When Jones got nailed for the

1685
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 29: pick six by Vin Kinkle, that was the final mail

1686
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 29: when the game because at that point it was.

1687
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: He one to six, so it was only a two

1688
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: score game at that and the Giants have the ball

1689
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: with about six minutes or whatever it was to go

1690
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, and I said that, I said

1691
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: to JC, you know what, if they go down here

1692
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: and score by the end of the quarter, it's a

1693
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: one score game going into the fourth and there's at

1694
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: least a chance for them to start making some noise.

1695
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: And by the way, there was one other play in

1696
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: the first half. I didn't mean director, well, I'm sorry.

1697
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: You're the fourth down, right, Daniel Jones on the quarterback

1698
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 1: keeper trying to keep it the run couldn't get it.

1699
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: That's another play where you're around midfield. You have a

1700
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: chance to maybe get some points out of it. And

1701
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: they couldn't convert the fourth down. So any of those plays,

1702
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: if the Giants can make them, maybe you can figure

1703
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: out a way to get some momentum. You get a

1704
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: little bit of confident, things start clicking a little bit.

1705
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: And again this is all within the bigger picture of them,

1706
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: frankly not playing well in very many aspects of the game. Yes,

1707
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: but maybe if you make a couple of those plays,

1708
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: at least you're in it late and then who knows

1709
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: what can happen. Maybe you get pressure on Sam Darld,

1710
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: maybe he throws an interception. Any of those things can

1711
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: happen if you just make some of those big plays

1712
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: in those important spots.

1713
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 2: But the Giants could never do that in this game.

1714
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 3: No, they couldn't. They couldn't offensively or defensively, you know,

1715
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 3: I think they started hot though, you know, even getting

1716
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 3: three points, at least you got on the board. You know,

1717
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 3: it wasn't a touchdown of course, with a very reduced

1718
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 3: field created by Drew Phillips, and even the first drive,

1719
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 3: you know, with the Dexa Lawrence sack, they have momentum early,

1720
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 3: you know, but there's a This is a game of

1721
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 3: momentum and it's ebb and flow right.

1722
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 29: Oh, you know about Jonathan, I'm gonna disagree. I think

1723
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 29: they had the spark, but they never grabbed the momentum. Okay,

1724
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 29: that's the problem. Okay, I could agree with that.

1725
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 3: I was talking defensively because that was two drives, you know,

1726
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 3: three points offensively, yes, but like after that, they really

1727
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 3: had nothing for a while, you know. And and it's

1728
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 3: like I said, it's the momentum goes back and forth

1729
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 3: because there's three separate units that are on the field

1730
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 3: at different times. There's offense, there's defense, and there's special teams.

1731
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 3: And the ebb and flow happens throughout all of those

1732
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,560
Speaker 3: different transitions of offense, different special teams. It happens through that.

1733
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 3: And if you only doing it on defense and nothing

1734
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 3: on offense. There's no EBB and flow. No, there's no

1735
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,799
Speaker 3: evan flowing. Eventually a play will happen against your defense,

1736
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 3: or a ninety nine yard drive where it gets that

1737
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 3: from your defense and all of a sudden your defense

1738
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 3: is down.

1739
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 2: This was a great example of how not to play

1740
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 2: complimentary football.

1741
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, not for real.

1742
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 2: What's the opposite of complimentary? Anti complimentary? I was looking

1743
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: for something more creative than that. Hey, that works too.

1744
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 12: Uh.

1745
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,080
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1746
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,240
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1748
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a quick timeout.

1749
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,960
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1750
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1751
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: and then we will start getting some callers in as well.

1752
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Speaker 1: Right here on the fan Giants fault to the vikings

1753
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Speaker 1: twenty eight to six will be right back.

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Speaker 7: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the Wfan

1755
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 7: Giants Radio network.

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01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 28: Donald in a shotgun, Jefferson out left, Jones emotion to

1757
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 28: the right looking for Jefferson throws a loft touchdown. Jeffson

1758
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 28: jeff ran a little in cut on Banks and scores.

1759
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 28: The touchdown.

1760
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: And that fourth down conversion fourth and goal to three

1761
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: made it fourteenth to three Vikings and that was our

1762
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: turning point of the game. Listen to Boomer and Gil

1763
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 1: on WFN tomorrow morning in the nine am hour for

1764
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: the Giants Turning Point contest. The first correct call to

1765
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: name the game's turning point will win an autographed item

1766
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: by a Giants player. Giants fall to the Vikings twenty

1767
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,839
Speaker 1: eight to six. Let's listen to Kevon Thibodau. He addressed

1768
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 1: the media in the locker room after the game.

1769
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 12: What do you take away from that game?

1770
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 10: What's your feeling coming out of that game?

1771
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 22: You gotta keep going, you know, we gotta be honest

1772
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 22: with the film. We gotta be you know, we gotta

1773
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 22: address the facts and see you better for next week.

1774
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:45,839
Speaker 6: Facts He had zero tackles.

1775
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 9: What does that sit with you?

1776
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 29: Is what it is?

1777
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 22: You know, I think I might have missed one, but

1778
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 22: you know, you gotta do what you can. You gotta

1779
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 22: set edges, you know, affect the quarterback and then you know,

1780
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 22: continue to you know, make it back on the game.

1781
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 15: You know that you know that a lot on you

1782
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 15: guys in the pass rush up front like that's it's

1783
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 15: seems supposed to be built down?

1784
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 14: How much anybody else got a questions?

1785
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 6: Which, ye, why is that? Is that a bad question

1786
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 6: for you?

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01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 14: What happened on that?

1788
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 24: Uh?

1789
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 14: Man, I tried to convert. I think I kind of

1790
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 14: hooked the space man.

1791
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 17: How how was some friends you know playing like that

1792
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 17: at least the ninety nine yard drop?

1793
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 18: The man?

1794
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 22: You know, it's tough, man, you know, Uh, we can't

1795
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 22: really do much of the rafts and the calls.

1796
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 14: But all we can do is just play the next

1797
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 14: down and you know, keep on the darn.

1798
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 18: Old what surprised?

1799
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 12: I think he his first twelve.

1800
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 14: Passes, Nah, I think he was very Uh you know

1801
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 14: he was the guy that we we thought he was

1802
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 14: gonna be on film. You know, he made some smart passes.

1803
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 14: He uh played a great game.

1804
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 18: So you know that's what it is, keyboard.

1805
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 29: We saw a lot of times last year.

1806
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 18: You guys gotta keep playing from the hall.

1807
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 14: That happened again today.

1808
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 29: How difficult does that continue to be common?

1809
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 22: You know, it's always you know, hard getting up here, battle,

1810
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 22: hard to make tackles, hard to second quarterback, hard to

1811
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,759
Speaker 22: do different things when you're you know, right from behind.

1812
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 22: But it is what it is, nature of the beach.

1813
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 22: You know, they're not gonna get easier, so we just

1814
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:05,639
Speaker 22: got to, you know, chop up.

1815
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 14: The film and keep going.

1816
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 18: And you're you're a confident guy.

1817
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 14: Do you worry about the confidence in this?

1818
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 33: Sayin you're a confident guy typically, Can you worry about

1819
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 33: the confidence when you guys were had touch high expectations?

1820
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 4: No?

1821
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 14: I think we still keep our expectations high.

1822
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 12: We just work a little harder.

1823
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 14: We kind of we trim the fat, and you know,

1824
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 14: we just continue to get better.

1825
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:25,799
Speaker 22: I think we got a young group, so it's definitely

1826
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 22: gonna have to continue to keep them around together and

1827
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 22: keep the confidence going.

1828
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 14: But I think we'll be good. It's still earlier this season.

1829
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 18: Are you guys still confident that that front four just

1830
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 18: rushing four?

1831
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 25: Can you get it done?

1832
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 14: Yeah? Yeah, I think we're going to get done.

1833
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 29: Nubbin in Moos South make some plays, so did Phillips.

1834
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 14: How encouraging is that for the young rookies to do

1835
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 14: things like that.

1836
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 22: That's what's gonna take I think, you know, continuing to

1837
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 22: step up to the play name's card and continue to

1838
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 22: make the players that come to you.

1839
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: I want to get our other defensive leader, captain Bobby

1840
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: okaake in here. He also spoke to the MIDI after

1841
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 1: the game. Let's listen to him.

1842
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 18: You know, it's huge, especially Kno getting the field on

1843
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 18: third down.

1844
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 14: You know those penalties hurts you.

1845
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 18: You know that's what week ones four. You know, you

1846
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 18: make those mistakes. You learned from me.

1847
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 4: I thought Doid was in great position and it was

1848
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 4: a tough call. But we'll go back from the tape

1849
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 4: and go learn from it. But yeah, get enough field

1850
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 4: on third down, its it'll be.

1851
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 12: Big for us.

1852
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 16: Bobby, how disappointing was it to start in this Stashit.

1853
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 4: Pretty disappointing, not too discouraging. You know, it's a long season.

1854
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 4: There's a lot to be encouraged by. Like I was

1855
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 4: telling Edward, the rookie's played really well. I thought Darius

1856
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 4: played extremely well. I thought Andrew Phillips came in and

1857
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 4: played well. I thought Tyler Moeven did a great job

1858
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 4: in the secondary. So there's a lot of building blocks

1859
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 4: to build off of. Now everyone's just gonna hold themselves

1860
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 4: personally accounting.

1861
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 16: How important is it to not get down on yourselves

1862
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 16: after just one game.

1863
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, very important, and you know, you can almost have

1864
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 4: to block out the media, like they'll tell you you're

1865
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 4: the worst team in the world or the best team

1866
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 4: in the world after one week.

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Speaker 9: But it's a long season, seventeen week season.

1868
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, we just gotta go back focus on our

1869
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 4: process of the results, and you focus on what we

1870
01:19:59,040 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 4: gotta do Monday.

1871
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 18: Would be one thing we.

1872
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 29: Thought a lot during camps that the past Rush was

1873
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 29: gonna be very dynamic. Didn't seem like it was today,

1874
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 29: or your thoughts about maybe why that wasn't the case.

1875
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 4: I mean, that was probably their game plan to take

1876
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 4: those guys out run a lot of you know, outside

1877
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 4: zone play action, boo, get the ball out quick, so

1878
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 4: you know, guys like Brian Burns Decks can't get back there,

1879
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:20,959
Speaker 4: which they were still able.

1880
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 18: To, but that was probably a big emphasis for them

1881
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 18: game plan wise.

1882
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, thank you, thank you very much, Thank you. Thank you.

1883
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 21: Now.

1884
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 29: Yeah, played a very simple game for him, not put

1885
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 29: them in any bad situations.

1886
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, did he surprise you with his ability today?

1887
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 13: Uh?

1888
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 4: No, I mean that's about what I expected. I played

1889
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 4: against him a lot in the Pac twelve. You know,

1890
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 4: it's fun competing against him because he's a gamer. Like

1891
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 4: I said, he makes plays. They're gonna run, play action,

1892
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 4: They're gonna run boo. I thought Aaron Jones is a

1893
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 4: great addition to their offense. He played streating well and

1894
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 4: that's a good team. Justin Jeffers is one of the

1895
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 4: best team, best players in the NFL. And we just

1896
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 4: didn't execute well enough to win the game.

1897
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 12: Today.

1898
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 6: A lot of people say that or question the fact

1899
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 6: that the preseason is more limited.

1900
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 12: You don't get a lot of action, game time stuff

1901
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 12: like that.

1902
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 8: Is this like, do you feel like this first game

1903
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 8: it was a little rusty for everybody, and then now

1904
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,480
Speaker 8: we're going against the flow potentially.

1905
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I know everyone's been preparing as hard as

1906
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 4: I can physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, whatever to get ready

1907
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 4: for this game. So now I believe everybody you know,

1908
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 4: treated this like at the start of the season, and

1909
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 4: you know, we knew we had to put our best

1910
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 4: foot four.

1911
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 9: We just didn't execute well enough.

1912
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 4: So we'll go back, We'll watch the film, get in

1913
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 4: the weight room, you know, start conditioning, and get ready

1914
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 4: for next week against Commanders.

1915
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: Jac Your thoughts from what we heard from the two

1916
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: of the Giants leaders on defense, including their captain Bobby Okaka.

1917
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 3: I mean they gotta, you know, look back at the film,

1918
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 3: like they said, they gotta check it out. And I

1919
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 3: think Kavon said, you gotta be honest when you watch

1920
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 3: the film. You gotta be honest with yourself.

1921
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 2: But when these guys watched the film, what do you

1922
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: think the honest reaction is going to be?

1923
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 3: Well, see, defensively, Like, I don't know, like to be honest,

1924
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 3: the stuff that I saw was the stuff that they

1925
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 3: don't show on film. You know, they don't get guys

1926
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 3: running off the field and jogging off the field like that.

1927
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 3: But that's what I would talk about, you know, Like

1928
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 3: you know, I got a daughter. You know, we all

1929
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 3: got kids, right, and our kids play sports. It's not

1930
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 3: just what you do on the court or on the field.

1931
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 3: It's about the stuff in between. How you interact with

1932
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 3: your teammates, you know, how you receive coaching, you know,

1933
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 3: the energy that you have. You know, when I played here, right,

1934
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 3: Eli Manning great quarterback right in twenty fifteen, Eli Manning

1935
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: was good. It was good twenty sixteen. He threw some

1936
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 3: interceptions that year, and I had the mindset and all

1937
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 3: of us had the mindset that whenever he threw interception,

1938
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 3: he turned the ball over and he couldn't hold onto

1939
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 3: the ball, whatever the case is. It wasn't like, oh

1940
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 3: my god, were out there getting no We would run

1941
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 3: on the field with our hair on fire and we

1942
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 3: would take We would storm the field because that says

1943
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 3: something to that opposing offense. And then when we made

1944
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 3: a stop, we celebrated even if we were losing, even

1945
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 3: we were down, because you never know what can happen

1946
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 3: in the game, and you have to have that energy

1947
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 3: for four quarters or more because the game might go

1948
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 3: on overtime. And I just didn't see some things that

1949
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 3: won't get corrected on film because those things don't get recorded.

1950
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 3: And that's thing I've been literally talking about that the

1951
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 3: whole brockass because that is huge, that stuff that you

1952
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 3: can't correct on the film, But it's something that needs

1953
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 3: to be discussed and worked on because they have to

1954
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 3: have better collective effort as a whole team. It wasn't

1955
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 3: just a defense, it wasn't just the offense. It was

1956
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 3: the whole team. And that stuff is not going to

1957
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 3: show up on film when they watch tomorrow.

1958
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, here's the problem when they look at this tape.

1959
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: And we kind of referenced this in the last segment

1960
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: a little bit, and we talked about this last year

1961
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: when the Giants gave up eighty five sacks. When you

1962
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: get down big in games and other teams are able

1963
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: to just worry about the pass, unleash and get up

1964
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: field and go, it makes it so much easier for

1965
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 1: the pass rush. And this is not trying to make

1966
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: an excuse for the Giants pass rushers. You need to

1967
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: be more productive against this like offensive line, no matter

1968
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: what the scores, point blank enough said. But the Vikings

1969
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: did not have to play that way because they were up.

1970
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 1: They didn't have to drop back and throw thirty five

1971
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: times in this game. We mentioned twenty four passing attempts

1972
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: for Sam Dawn. A lot of those were quick passing attemps.

1973
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: We you didn't really have a chance to get home

1974
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: and make a play. So all this stuff is cyclical, right,

1975
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: If the offense plays well, you get to lead, the

1976
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: defense has a chance to get after the quarterback. So

1977
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: with the way this Giants defense is structured, if you

1978
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 1: don't get leads and you can't let that pass rush cook,

1979
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 1: it's going to be difficult for them, I think, to

1980
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: be successful on that side of the ball.

1981
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 29: I mentioned the word complimentary football. Okay, Well, the truth

1982
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 29: of the matter is the Giants are a team that

1983
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 29: as they try to climb up to the next one

1984
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 29: or two on the ladder and they hope for improvement,

1985
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 29: they're a team that's going to rely not only on

1986
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:54,560
Speaker 29: complimentary football, but game flow. And if they don't have

1987
01:24:55,560 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 29: a competitive game flow and complimentary football playing hey had

1988
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 29: in hand, they are not going to be successful because

1989
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 29: they don't have the kind of headache players on both

1990
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 29: sides of the ball that are gonna be able to

1991
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,799
Speaker 29: make big plays and to dig them out of holes

1992
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 29: in the second half.

1993
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: And by the way, they just don't.

1994
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: And for the headache players that they have, they need

1995
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 1: them to make those types of plays, and they didn't

1996
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: have enough of those today who and and.

1997
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 2: So and and again.

1998
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 29: Quite honestly, I don't want to I don't want to

1999
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 29: beat this dead horse into the ground. But you know

2000
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 29: we talk about Neighbors is going to be that guy.

2001
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 29: He's got to prove it to the NFL. And until

2002
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 29: he proves that he's not a headache player, not yet,

2003
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 29: he's got to prove that now. Today he made some

2004
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 29: nice plays, but nothing super spectacular. He's gonna have to

2005
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 29: make a few super spectacular plays in order to become

2006
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 29: that guy.

2007
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a call here eighty eight eight

2008
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 1: oh eight one zero one nine. Let's go to Rocko

2009
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: and Endicott. He's gonna be our first caller up here

2010
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 1: on Giant's extra point. Hello, Roco, Hey, a.

2011
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 34: The way back from the Giants. We're on the way

2012
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 34: back from the Giants game today and I'm disgusted and

2013
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 34: I just want to know when do you guys think

2014
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 34: that it's time to pull the plug on d Daniel Jones,

2015
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 34: because like, he's not a rookie anymore. We're in year

2016
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 34: what six, and all of him. I understand the contract

2017
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 34: and everything and all the money after this year, it's

2018
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 34: like we can just release them, all the dead caps

2019
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 34: stuff like that. We just tried out, tried going to

2020
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 34: get neighbors in the draft, give him a weapon. But

2021
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 34: it's evident on hard knocks that this team really Gable,

2022
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 34: has no faith in him. This coaches faces him, and

2023
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 34: he's just not the guy that we wanted him to

2024
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 34: be and that we want him to progress to be.

2025
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 34: So like, why not just give Drew lock a shot?

2026
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: So I rocoll appreciate the call.

2027
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a situation where and I don't

2028
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: even think it's a consideration where you're, you know, making

2029
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: a change of quarterback after one game.

2030
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 2: I think.

2031
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: No, we heard Daniel ask that during his press conference. Actually,

2032
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: and cause see it started laughing when he heard the question.

2033
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: This is not a situation where the hook's going to

2034
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: be that short. He took every single first team rep

2035
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: in practice this spring and summer when he was healthy.

2036
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 1: He is the starting quarterback. Now, what happens over the

2037
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: course of the next three months, who knows. We aren't

2038
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 1: here to tell the future. But Brian Dable was asking

2039
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: as press conference. I think he was asked, you still

2040
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: have confidence in Daniel, I believe, and he said yes

2041
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: if I'm not.

2042
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 3: He don't really give straight answers like that, so that

2043
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 3: definitely wasn't his answer.

2044
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: But this is not a situation, Paul, where where we're

2045
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: going to be talking about in week two after one

2046
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: bad game to make it a change at the quarter.

2047
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 25: No.

2048
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 29: I mean, look, there is no question that this was

2049
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 29: a skunk today. It was all around the skunk game

2050
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 29: for the Giants.

2051
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,560
Speaker 2: That's a fact. No one is going to deny that,

2052
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 2: and no one's going to sugarcoat it.

2053
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 3: It was what it was.

2054
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,520
Speaker 2: The fact is it was also game one of seventeen.

2055
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 2: And by the way, that doesn't manuate seen games either.

2056
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 2: Oh it doesn't, it doesn't. It doesn't at all.

2057
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 29: But anybody who would make a change after just one

2058
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 29: game at any position and bench any player after just

2059
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 29: one game. Heck, remember last year when Trey Hawkins was

2060
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 29: a rookie and he started out really really well in

2061
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 29: the preseason, and they made him a starting corner to

2062
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 29: start the season, and they waited til week three. The

2063
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 29: first couple of games he really showed us inexperience.

2064
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 2: He was in over his head.

2065
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 29: And then okay, now the third week, we're going to

2066
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 29: make a change. You don't do it after one week,

2067
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 29: all right, even after two weeks, to be frank, you

2068
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 29: don't do it. The point is you have to have

2069
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 29: a bigger sample size than just one game. And oh,

2070
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 29: by the way, in case you people didn't watch the

2071
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 29: whole game, the whole team skunked out today. It wasn't

2072
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 29: like Daniel Jones cost the Giants today's game. They were

2073
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 29: really bad in like every facet now in fairness, dying

2074
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 29: to help them win the game either, But oh no,

2075
01:28:58,360 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 29: he was part of the problem.

2076
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 3: The difference is between the example you using Trey Hawkins

2077
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 3: as a rookie last year and Daniel Jones. It's not

2078
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 3: his rookie year, and day Ball has seen some of

2079
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 3: these things. I don't think the leash is as long

2080
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 3: as we might think it is, you know, And I'm

2081
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 3: trying to be optimistic here, you know. I think I

2082
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,759
Speaker 3: don't think it's next game either. Like if Daniel Jones

2083
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 3: performed similar next game as he did this game, I

2084
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 3: don't think it happens after that. I don't think so.

2085
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 3: I think the leash is not as long as mid

2086
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 3: season though, Like you can't play this well this, I mean, see,

2087
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 3: you can't play like this for half the season. I

2088
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 3: think around the first quarter of the season, if things

2089
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 3: do not get better, then the leash might be discussed.

2090
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 2: And I'm so glad you brought but it's.

2091
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 3: Not gonna be next week. It's not gonna be next week.

2092
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 29: I'm so glad you brought that up, because we've talked

2093
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 29: about this also many times in the last how many years,

2094
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 29: But By the way, the Giants are now one and

2095
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 29: seven in their last opening day games to start the season,

2096
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 29: which is just not a good way to get off to,

2097
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 29: you know, start the year. But having said that, we

2098
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 29: have said this for a long time, and we keep

2099
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 29: saying it September football because of the the way that

2100
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 29: preseason snaps are delegated. Yeah, but Paul, second, we see

2101
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 29: poor football. Sam Donald look great today.

2102
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 2: I understand that.

2103
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: But the point being, I don't want to use that

2104
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 1: as it No, well you know, I'm not using it

2105
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 1: as an excuse.

2106
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 29: What I'm saying is every single NFL coach general manager

2107
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 29: who's had any experience in these league will tell you

2108
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 29: you don't know what your team is until the third

2109
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 29: or fourth week of the regular season.

2110
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 2: So that's fair. That's fair. That's okay, point, that's fair.

2111
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 29: And and you know, so I don't expect any coach

2112
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 29: to be frank with you, to start pulling the plug

2113
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 29: on anybody around the league until at least three or

2114
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 29: four games.

2115
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 1: And I'll just say this, in the offseason, two people

2116
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: watched Hard Knocks, was it clear the Giants were and

2117
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: interested in making a move for a quarterback they think

2118
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 1: could develop into their you know the Josh Allen that

2119
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 1: Joe talking about it. Brian Dable had a buffalow. They

2120
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: thought it was pretty clear on hard knocks that they

2121
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: were looking to do. That doesn't mean that they That's

2122
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 1: different than saying they have no confidence in Daniel Jones,

2123
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: created no confidence in Daniel Jones. They could have went

2124
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 1: out there and spend money on Gardner Minshew the way

2125
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: the Raiders did right, or brought in a different quarterback,

2126
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: not bringing in someone that they believe as a backup.

2127
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: They could have had an open competition for the starting

2128
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 1: job in the summer. They did not have an open

2129
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: competition for the starting job in the summer. So I

2130
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 1: just want to the call is said based on that

2131
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 1: it was clear they have no confidence in the player.

2132
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm just making the point that the fact that they

2133
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: were looking to trade for a player in the draft

2134
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they have zero confidence in Daniel Jones.

2135
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 2: It means that they were.

2136
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 1: Willing to look for a guy they thought could be

2137
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 1: an upgrade. But it doesn't mean that they have zero

2138
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 1: confidence in the court.

2139
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 29: I'll go a step further. That's fair, right, I'll go

2140
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 29: step further. The reports were that Russell Wilson stopped in

2141
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 29: on the Giants before he went to Pittsburgh, right, And

2142
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 29: why did Russell Wilson make his pitch stop and then

2143
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 29: go right over to Pittsburgh and then sign there Because

2144
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 29: the people in Pittsburgh pretty much told him, all right,

2145
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 29: it's gonna be a competition and you're gonna have a

2146
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 29: chance to start. He did not get those words here

2147
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 29: because had he gotten those words, maybe he would have

2148
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 29: stopped and stayed, but.

2149
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 2: He did not.

2150
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 29: He went right on to Pittsburgh where they told him

2151
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 29: it'll be a competition and you're gonna have a real

2152
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 29: chance to be the starter. So that to your point,

2153
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 29: John tells you that the Giants were not out on

2154
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 29: Daniel Jones and locked in and furthermore for this year.

2155
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 29: And furthermore, if they were all in on going after

2156
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 29: Drake May, they would have pulled the Mike Ditka and

2157
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 29: traded their whole draft like he did for Ricky Williams.

2158
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Okay, and that still might not have worked based on

2159
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: the phone call that they are not hard knocks. That

2160
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 1: might not have worked anyway. Giants TV presented by Bob's

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Speaker 1: with Giants TV. But look, there's question. Daniel Jones and

2166
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 1: this team have to play better. Otherwise you're not gonna

2167
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: win many games significantly better. Everybody has to play better.

2168
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 1: Let's think who can time out. We'll come back. We'll

2169
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 1: take a couple more calls, a couple more pieces of

2170
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 1: audio from the locker room, and then we'll wrap things

2171
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 1: up on Giants Extra Point, The Giants Fall to the

2172
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 1: Vikings twenty eight to six.

2173
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Speaker 7: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the Wfan Giants

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Speaker 7: Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: We're back here on Giants Extra Point, The Giants Fall

2176
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: to the Vikings twenty eight to six. All right, we

2177
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Speaker 1: got a bunch of calls. You guys doing a great

2178
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: job out there. Eight eight eight eight oh eight one

2179
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Speaker 1: zero one to nine. But first, the last pew piece

2180
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 1: of audio from the locker room. Pete Hoffin down there

2181
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: did a great job gathering all the sound for us.

2182
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas was downstairs. You wanted to hear from one

2183
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,759
Speaker 1: of the offensive linemen addressing the media after this game.

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Speaker 9: Since didn't get started for you, those most points, the

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Speaker 9: most antivities.

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01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 14: I'm not related about any sacks and you have those.

2187
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 9: Those are draft killers.

2188
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 14: It's hard to get to rather than to hacking.

2189
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 21: So we have to do our best.

2190
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 29: Eliminade episodes gives what we've seen so much happen in

2191
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,759
Speaker 29: practice over the last month. Looked like it was functioning

2192
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 29: and wheels how disappointing.

2193
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 14: It surprising?

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01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 2: Is it that you guys did your call on one today?

2195
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 3: Uh?

2196
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 33: I wouldn't say it was surprising when that happens anytime

2197
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 33: there's penned bees and everything is it's hard to overcomest

2198
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 33: thing they could and they played. They played a great

2199
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 33: game on defense as well, So we're being ourselves.

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01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 9: It's really hard.

2201
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 2: It's a typically I know you guys were looking at

2202
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 2: Bikings tape for a while.

2203
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 29: Was there anything of the especially running in a game

2204
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 29: that was surprising that they that they'd be in shape?

2205
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 33: Yeah, it's week one. You know that there's gonna be

2206
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,520
Speaker 33: some albums that are coming out. They did a good jobs.

2207
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 33: Was a board in rotations differ O this is man,

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01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 33: but we saw for fail for mass hut but we

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01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 33: knew Forlorence would.

2210
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 14: Have something different for using they did a better job executed.

2211
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 29: We always talked that you gotta get the running game

2212
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 29: going first, and the running game just never.

2213
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 18: Seen the young track with a finger.

2214
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 14: On out their sides. The fact that what the show

2215
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 14: was able to get some pressure there was a lot

2216
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 14: of different things.

2217
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 33: That's from just being on the same page up front,

2218
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 33: combination of blocks they were moving a lot and pressure

2219
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 33: on the blocks.

2220
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 14: So we just have to be better again A hat

2221
01:34:58,640 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 14: for hat and open up on the day.

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01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 20: How would you assess, you know, the performance of your group.

2223
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 20: The offensive line overall for the first time out not great.

2224
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 33: I've said kuspor dj I got sacked five times pressure

2225
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 33: I don't know how many times, and I don't.

2226
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 18: Care who you have back players.

2227
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 33: It's hard to play ball if then hit that much.

2228
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 33: So we had to a laborator and I've sent a

2229
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 33: run game what they do well.

2230
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 1: But like you, that's Andrew Thomas. After the game, guys,

2231
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 1: I thought the offense line was okay. Obviously you look

2232
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 1: at the five sack number you don't like it. But

2233
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 1: we mentioned this earlier, Paul, you weren't up here yet.

2234
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like a game last year when they

2235
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 1: gave up five sacks. Remember last year they ever they

2236
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 1: gave up five sacks a game. That's did you get

2237
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 1: the eighty five for you math majors out there. It

2238
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 1: didn't feel like a game from last year though, where

2239
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback did not have a chance back there. Daniel

2240
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 1: Jones had plenty of clean pockets.

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01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 29: It was rough, but it wasn't jail break central, if

2242
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,640
Speaker 29: that's what you're talking about, because last year, especially the

2243
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,600
Speaker 29: opener against Dallas, that's what it looked like.

2244
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought the offense had plenty of time back

2245
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 2: there to function.

2246
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 29: Yeah, you know the thing about it was, though John

2247
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 29: and I said befo, and I wasn't trying to be

2248
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:06,839
Speaker 29: half hearted about it. The whole offense just looks ditch jointed.

2249
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 29: The receivers, Howard Cross was saying during the course from

2250
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 29: the of the game down on the field, it didn't

2251
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 29: look like the receivers were on time. Jones was missing

2252
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 29: guys where he shouldn't miss. His timing was off, his

2253
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 29: accuracy was off. There were times where it looked like

2254
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 29: they had a play set up, but the pressure coming

2255
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 29: from where it was certain parts of the pocket were

2256
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 29: collapsing like where he didn't expect it to. It was

2257
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 29: almost like they didn't have a feel for him and

2258
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 29: where he was setting up, everything just seemed like every

2259
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 29: part of.

2260
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:41,759
Speaker 2: The jigsaw puzzle was the wrong piece and nothing was fitting.

2261
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 29: And when that happened, it's like the ultimate frustration and

2262
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 29: you get a performance like you got today, and you

2263
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 29: know that's why, again not to sugarcoat any of this.

2264
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,719
Speaker 2: It was bad all the way around.

2265
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 29: And you know they always say you're never as good

2266
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 29: as you looked, and you never as bad as you looked. Well,

2267
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 29: the Giants need to hope that that holds true because

2268
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 29: they got more talent on this team than what they

2269
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 29: showed today.

2270
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: By the way, we were talking toding that bag about

2271
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: Brandon Aubrey. He just lined the a sixty sixty yard

2272
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: kick against the Browns outdoors.

2273
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 2: He made it, but the Cowboys at call For delayed.

2274
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 3: That's what happened.

2275
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 1: He made his sixty sixty yard kick outdoors. I think

2276
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: they might let him try from seventy one in Cleveland, Yes,

2277
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 1: this is in Cleveland on the grass. I want to

2278
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 1: see if they let him try from seventy one. I

2279
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 1: think they are I'm curious to see if he makes it.

2280
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 3: What's the record? Sixty eight, sixty three?

2281
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 2: I thought it was sixty I think you was sixty

2282
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 2: three forever and then this is a seventy one.

2283
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I know we were talking giants. I'm this

2284
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,560
Speaker 3: is this is this is impressive. This guy could make this.

2285
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 29: And what did I say to you during the last

2286
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 29: commercial break? If the Cowboys know that all they've got

2287
01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 29: to do is get to the fifty yard line to

2288
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 29: score points, how ridiculous is that?

2289
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 1: And this is the end of the half, so you'll

2290
01:37:57,680 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 1: see you have nothing to lose. You're trying to kick

2291
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: shit field goal score board real quick. There's a time

2292
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 1: out in the game. We'll get back to it today.

2293
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 2: The Saints.

2294
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 1: They blew out the Panthers forty seven to ten, Dolphins twenty,

2295
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: Jaguar seventeen. Texans eat out of win over the Colts

2296
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 1: in a really close one, twenty nine to twenty seven,

2297
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 1: Patriots sixteen, Bengals ten in an upset, Bears ifeeded the

2298
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 1: Titans twenty four to seventeen, Bill's thirty four, Cardinals twenty eight.

2299
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: Steelers beat the Falcons eighteen to ten, and then games

2300
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 1: in progress Cowboys lead the Browns twenty to three.

2301
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 2: They're not gonna let him try that seventy one yard

2302
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 2: field goal.

2303
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,679
Speaker 1: He did make it from sixty six after the delay

2304
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 1: a game though the Broncos at the half.

2305
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 2: They lead the Seahawks thirteen to nine.

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01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 1: Third quarter Chargers nine, Raiders seven, Buccaneers sixteen, Commander seven

2307
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:38,879
Speaker 1: that game in the third quarter.

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01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 2: Or we made a sixty six yard field goal.

2309
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 1: In the preseason. That's how that conversation started. They're gonna

2310
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 1: try hell Mary.

2311
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 2: Here, yeah, instead of going for the field goal.

2312
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 1: Anyway, Let's get back to the calls here right here.

2313
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:50,560
Speaker 1: You guys doing a great job on the phones. Go

2314
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 1: to make sure I get you guys, and we got

2315
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: about eight minutes or so of content left. I want

2316
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:55,560
Speaker 1: to make sure we get you guys in here on

2317
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 1: the phone. Let's go to Jay and Hazled he can

2318
01:38:58,439 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: join us next, Jay, what's going on?

2319
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 21: Hey, guys, is driving home from the game? Great?

2320
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 35: It's it's good to know that the Cowboys also have

2321
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 35: a kicker who could kick from the other end zone.

2322
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 35: Just making my day better.

2323
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,719
Speaker 2: You know, the kickers that they're developing today.

2324
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 29: I was talking to Figels about this a couple of

2325
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 29: years ago, I said, they're just putting biotic legs.

2326
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 2: On these guys.

2327
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 14: It's crazy.

2328
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 35: So I'm uh, I got two quick points Jones. I've

2329
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 35: liked Jones. I think today is where I've started to

2330
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 35: turn on him. I have more realistic than another caller.

2331
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:35,560
Speaker 36: I'm not looking to bench him and and you know,

2332
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 36: pull the plug. But I think he's got six games

2333
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 36: and if it doesn't come together, I think that's that

2334
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 36: might be the plug at that point on his career.

2335
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 36: Here he doesn't turn it around. And one last point,

2336
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 36: are you have a hammer still?

2337
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 26: Yeah?

2338
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 16: Where?

2339
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 35: Oh sorry I started starting during lest yet one last point,

2340
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,560
Speaker 35: I'm a little concerned just listening to the TIBs and

2341
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 35: that's Lawrence Interviews. The tension and I know they just

2342
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:04,719
Speaker 35: came off a really rough loss.

2343
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 36: The tension with the media.

2344
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 35: It's not something I want to hear.

2345
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 34: On week one, there was a you know.

2346
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 35: Just a couple of being a little a little uh

2347
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 35: pushy with the with the you know, the media that

2348
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 35: that that's a bad sign in the locker room for

2349
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 35: myself at least.

2350
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 2: Appreciate the call.

2351
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 3: My man, Well, look, I could speak for the media

2352
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 3: thing like I go lout of you. I used to

2353
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 3: run from the media. I used to run from the

2354
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 3: media because, like I mean, you guys know, I'm here

2355
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 3: for a reason. I think I did pretty well with

2356
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 3: the media when I was a player, you did, you know,

2357
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 3: But I used to run because sometimes it was hard

2358
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 3: to talk after games. Well, look, I used to run.

2359
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 2: Bro I always caught you though. I know JC enough.

2360
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: JC has some impulse control problems sometimes, so if he's

2361
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 1: a little bad after I gave you were trying to

2362
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 1: protect yourself, right.

2363
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 2: All right? Can I just give one quickie?

2364
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 29: Yes, being in the locker room like I was just now,

2365
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 29: there were no players that got dressed and ran, and

2366
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 29: nobody was hiding in the trainer's room either. I just

2367
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 29: want to make that very clear that locker room today,

2368
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 29: everybody was available to face the question.

2369
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 3: Just to your point, I've seen that on good teams

2370
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 3: and not so good teams. It's just kind of but

2371
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 3: they were all the offense to the media. And I'm

2372
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 3: talking about myself as well. Now, the guys don't really

2373
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 3: like the media like that, do you know what I mean?

2374
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to the phone. Say what's

2375
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 1: up to Tyler and Shelton, Connecticut. Tyler, what's going on?

2376
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 27: Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. I know we

2377
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 27: got only a few minutes left, so I'll make this quick.

2378
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 27: Just driving back from the game. Watch another garbage performance

2379
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 27: out there. But so they turned around. Two things, Malik Neighbors.

2380
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 27: You know, I heard a lot of people talk today

2381
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 27: how for him to succeed. Obviously he's got a bigger

2382
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 27: numbers than he did today. That's not going to happen

2383
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 27: with no one's getting him the ball. He had that

2384
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 27: one nice pass. I think it was early in the

2385
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 27: third quarter or late in the first half. But you know,

2386
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 27: if Jones saying Malik Kaber said during the interview that

2387
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 27: Jones said he had a lot of traffic in his space,

2388
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,599
Speaker 27: I mean, you guys said it before. I didn't think

2389
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 27: it was nearly as bad as last year with that.

2390
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 27: And second point, and I'll listen to you guys. I

2391
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 27: don't know if Daniel Jones of the other football teams

2392
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 27: in this league, if he'd even be a starter on

2393
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 27: any of this teams. So thanks for taking the call, guys,

2394
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 27: I'll listen in.

2395
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 18: Have a good one, go Jays.

2396
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Thanks for the call and appreciate you coming

2397
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 1: out today. I hope you enjoyed all the Giants one

2398
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 1: hundred festivities out here at MetLife Stadium. Look, they're going

2399
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 1: to try to get the ball to the Milak neighbors

2400
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 1: as much as they can. Brian Dables is gonna scheme

2401
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 1: up touches for him. They're gonna do their best. And again,

2402
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna rewatch the game tomorrow morning.

2403
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 1: But I think that the Vikings early in this game

2404
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 1: were trying to keep the ball out of his hands,

2405
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 1: and we'll see if other teams are able to do

2406
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 1: that here. Moving forward, let's go back to the phones

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Speaker 1: and say hello to Russ in Norwalk, Connecticut.

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01:42:58,479 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 2: Russ, what's going on?

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Speaker 21: Thanks for taking my call, Guys, I had put the coach.

2410
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 21: I'm putting the coach on notice after this performance. Forget

2411
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 21: the quarterback for a minute. I mean, how do you

2412
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 21: not prepare your team for for for for game week one?

2413
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 21: I mean, how do you not have your team ready?

2414
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:17,680
Speaker 21: If Jones was right, here's the.

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01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 2: Thing, it's fun.

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01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry read real quick because he was Dable would

2417
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 1: talk to the media after the game.

2418
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you're in your car in time.

2419
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 1: To hear it, and he basically said, look, they didn't

2420
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 1: play well enough around and he put the blame on himself.

2421
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 1: But the other part of that is the players also

2422
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 1: said in the locker room after the game that the

2423
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: Vikings didn't do anything that they were not prepared for

2424
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 1: in their preparation during the week. So there are two

2425
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 1: sides of that car where you're right. Dabel took the

2426
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 1: hit on this. He said, look, I do a better

2427
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 1: job getting these guys ready. But then the players said

2428
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 1: after the game that the Vikings didn't do anything to

2429
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:51,479
Speaker 1: surprise us.

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01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 2: So there are two sides of the car there. In

2431
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 2: some ways.

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01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 21: The second the second part of that hard knock story, guys,

2433
01:43:57,479 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 21: is John Menra. I mean, how does he how did

2434
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 21: he sleep fright night after seeing Saquent score three TVs

2435
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 21: and then today the Giants don't have any type of

2436
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 21: running game. There's the team is not prepared, guys. I mean,

2437
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 21: I can't believe that the New York media is letting

2438
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 21: Brian Table off the hook the weekend and week out.

2439
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 21: You guys let this guy off the hook. And you

2440
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 21: know what I predict I'm gonna make a prediction We're

2441
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 21: gonna be owned four before we wake up after the

2442
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 21: Thursday night game against Dallas. We're gonna be owed four.

2443
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 21: And then what then we go to Tommy DeVito? Do

2444
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 21: we bring another coach in next year? Do we bring

2445
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 21: our Hall of Famer sitting in the wings waiting to

2446
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 21: come back to the Giants stadium and Bill Belichick? I mean,

2447
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 21: this guy is not gonna make it as a giant coach.

2448
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 21: I can tell from his behavior, his demeanor, his laid

2449
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,599
Speaker 21: back mentality after the game, his lack of his lack

2450
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 21: of discipline penalties just like last year. He's learned nothing.

2451
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 21: They've learned nothing. So that's how I feel, guys, Thanks

2452
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 21: for taking my.

2453
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 2: Call, all right, appreciate the call. Guys. Look, he won

2454
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year two years ago.

2455
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,719
Speaker 1: He took an offense that frankly was not that talented

2456
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 1: two years ago and turned them into a top half

2457
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 1: of the league offense in terms of some of the

2458
01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: advanced metrics out there, and he figured out how to

2459
01:44:59,120 --> 01:44:59,680
Speaker 1: make things work.

2460
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 2: Last year was a disaster.

2461
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 1: No coach could have made what happened last year work

2462
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: with all the injuris they had up front at the

2463
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 1: quarterback position, He won three games with Tommy Defido last.

2464
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,560
Speaker 2: Year in a row, and they fought in some of

2465
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 2: those games.

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01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 1: Down And that's not me saying that. You know, Brian

2467
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 1: Dable did a great job coaching today, No one did

2468
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,719
Speaker 1: a great job. That's not the point I'm making. But look,

2469
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 1: the Giants don't want to keep changing coaches. That is

2470
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 1: not the type of franchise that John Mara wants to

2471
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 1: have here. He wants to have continuity. He knows that's

2472
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 1: what wins in the National Football Now. You have to

2473
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 1: the right guys in place. But they're gonna give Brian

2474
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 1: Dable every opportunity to make this right because they saw

2475
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 1: him make it right two years ago when they managed

2476
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 1: to get.

2477
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:36,839
Speaker 2: Into the playoffs.

2478
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And look, I feel like every team that

2479
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 3: has success in the NFL, I think the common you know,

2480
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 3: ingredients are a solid head coach and a solid quarterback

2481
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 3: and they usually have years together and they do it

2482
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 3: four years after they're together, right, And the Giants had

2483
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 3: to figure out if Daniel Jones is the franchise quarterback.

2484
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 3: He has to prove it because he still hasn't. He

2485
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 3: hadn't done it yet, He hasn't done it to this uh,

2486
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:06,560
Speaker 3: this coaching staff. They didn't elect to bring him in

2487
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 3: for his fifth year and twenty twenty two, Jane Daniel

2488
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 3: Jones had a very efficient year where he won a

2489
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 3: playoff game, first playoff game in ten years that the

2490
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 3: Giants won, and he ran the ball very well. You

2491
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 3: had to pay him. The Giants had to do it,

2492
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 3: and they did. They lock him up, but they didn't

2493
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 3: give him the biggest quarterback money. They gave him almost

2494
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 3: an affordable contract where they can get after a couple

2495
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 3: of years. The Giants are nowhere near to making that

2496
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 3: decision quite yet, and the organization is nowhere making that

2497
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:35,120
Speaker 3: decision quite yet. But we understand what the fans are saying.

2498
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 3: We get you, guys, We truly understand what you're saying.

2499
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 3: Like that last caller, we got you. We feel what

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01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 3: you're saying. It's rough to watch, but we weren't.

2501
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:45,000
Speaker 2: Sitting here and enjoying the game either.

2502
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 1: By the way, I guarantee ownership wasn't sitting there watching

2503
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 1: this game and join the game either. They are just

2504
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 1: as upset. Take that back. They are more upset than

2505
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:55,640
Speaker 1: you are. Walking out of that They're curious, that's going

2506
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 1: to be guarantee.

2507
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 3: It's a collective effort. It's a collective effort to put

2508
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 3: forth the performance that they did, and it's a collective

2509
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:05,839
Speaker 3: effort to have a bounce back week. It's a collective

2510
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 3: effort to have a strong finish to the season. It

2511
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 3: takes every single person involved in the building.

2512
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 2: Guys, there are seventeen games left.

2513
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a long way to go.

2514
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 2: The Bengals loss of the Patriots today, Okay, that's pretty bad,

2515
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 2: all right. The Patriots. The Patriots, they have not been

2516
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 2: projected to be very good this year. That is how

2517
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 2: I phrased that statement. And the Bengals are Super Bowl

2518
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 2: contenders and they lost to the Patriots today. So things happen.

2519
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:34,719
Speaker 2: Number one, it's one game.

2520
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 29: Number two, it's always more important about how you respond

2521
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 29: to a beating. And you know that, jac You know

2522
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,560
Speaker 29: that if they let this linger and they don't do

2523
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 29: what they need to do and bounce back in Washington

2524
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 29: next week, now you say, oh, now it's two.

2525
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 2: Yes, now it's two, Paul.

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01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:56,880
Speaker 1: To your point, if Jacon or Sin and I we're

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01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 1: sitting at fan next week at four twenty five and

2528
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 1: we're staring at twenty eight to ten commanders. Then we

2529
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 1: got a problem. Then we got a problem because weird

2530
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 1: things happen in week one. Okay, but you gotta bounce

2531
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 1: back from that. To your point, that's it, that's it.

2532
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 1: How will they respond from this? How will they bounce back?

2533
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 29: And by the way, against a division foe, and we

2534
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 29: all know the division games are more important than the

2535
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 29: non division games, So okay, strap it up, get it

2536
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 29: ready next week, and do what you need to do.

2537
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,759
Speaker 29: And I believe Washington's down by two scores to Tampa, John.

2538
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 2: Is that correct?

2539
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 1: Last I saw it is thirteen to seven. I'm not

2540
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,759
Speaker 1: sure if Tampa scored agains since then. So by the learning,

2541
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 1: we got to plus ten seconds for state standentification in

2542
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:41,839
Speaker 1: sixteen to seven ten Bay Bucks on the Wfan Giants Radio.

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01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:47,680
Speaker 31: Network WFAN, WSA, n FM, WSA, n FM, HD one,

2544
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 31: New York and station.

2545
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 1: All Right, guys, I think the caller did a great

2546
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 1: job of getting us to our look ahead to the

2547
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 1: game next week against the commander's commit a trailing sixteen

2548
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 1: to seven. I think Brian Robinson, if I'm not mistaken,

2549
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 1: has their long touchdown. Jam Danields right now is six

2550
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 1: of eleven for fifty one yards. They're gonna have offensive

2551
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 1: line problems all year. If you can get a leader

2552
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 1: in that game, you should be able to attack that

2553
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 1: offensive line with a Giants pass rush and then defensively,

2554
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:20,760
Speaker 1: quite frankly, their secondary does not have a lot of

2555
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 1: players back there that have a lot of success in

2556
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:26,640
Speaker 1: the NFL long term. So this should be the opportunity

2557
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:28,400
Speaker 1: that the Giants are looking for to bounce back, at

2558
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 1: least from an offensive perspective, to make some plays down

2559
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: the field against a Washington secondary that has strugled the

2560
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 1: last few years and frankly.

2561
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:36,799
Speaker 2: Did not make that many improvements in the offseason.

2562
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and every year is different. You know, history it

2563
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:43,640
Speaker 3: doesn't really hold up. But there's something that you know,

2564
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 3: and we talk about Daniel Jones specifically, there's something that

2565
01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:50,719
Speaker 3: he has, like confidence wise, when he plays against the Commanders,

2566
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,679
Speaker 3: he looks different, like he plays different, and he plays

2567
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 3: very well. He has great games against the Commander.

2568
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:57,719
Speaker 2: He loves playing against the Commanders.

2569
01:49:57,800 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 3: He does, you know. And I don't know why my

2570
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 3: voice is in high like that, but I guess I'm

2571
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 3: just hopeful.

2572
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 29: You already getting excited about next week's Jones and he's

2573
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 29: the Commanders he gets happy.

2574
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:11,759
Speaker 2: The Giants.

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01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 29: That's the one team over the course of these last

2576
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 29: several years when they have struggled, they have still been

2577
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 29: able to take care of business against.

2578
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 2: How many times they been them last year, that's just

2579
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:21,920
Speaker 2: where it is twice.

2580
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 29: That's that's a team they've been able to which goes

2581
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,720
Speaker 29: back to our point, John a minute ago. Got to

2582
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 29: bounce back next week against the team that you have

2583
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:32,639
Speaker 29: usually taken care of business against.

2584
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 2: Don't screw that up next week.

2585
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again we've talked about it before the season started.

2586
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:43,799
Speaker 1: A very tough stretch of games comes after that second

2587
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 1: game against the Commanders. I'll give the galand for the

2588
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:48,439
Speaker 1: fans out there in case they haven't looked at the schedule,

2589
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:49,519
Speaker 1: Cleveland's having a.

2590
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 29: Heck of a bad time today against Dallas, right when

2591
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 29: they scored three points? Yeah, I mean Dallas. Yeah, I mean, look,

2592
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 29: that's true. So you get at Cleveland. That's week three.

2593
01:50:57,320 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 29: This is that the Commanders in Week two.

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01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 1: Obviously, all these teams in the next six games won

2595
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 1: at least nine games last year, they at least five

2596
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,800
Speaker 1: hundred or better. Right act cleaved home versus the Cowboys

2597
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 1: at the Seahawks always a tough place to play home

2598
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 1: versus the Bengals. That's a Sunday night, or Dallas is

2599
01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 1: a Thursday night or by the way, Eagles one o'clock

2600
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 1: on a Sunday and then at Pittsburgh on Monday night football.

2601
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,719
Speaker 1: So that is a very very difficult stretch of games.

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01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 1: You better not be zering to heading into that stretch

2603
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 1: of six otherwise you're in a you're in for a

2604
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 1: long way clawing your way back into playoff contention.

2605
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 29: Absolutely, you know, that's why having another game before that

2606
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:36,719
Speaker 29: gauntlet is so important.

2607
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 2: You actually have that little tiny bit of breathing room

2608
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:41,759
Speaker 2: to get things fixed.

2609
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 29: Could you imagine if you were starting that gauntlet this week,

2610
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 29: coming up on Sunday and did not have one game

2611
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 29: before that to try to get it right.

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01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 1: So, just talking about the Commanders of the Giants have

2613
01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 1: had success against them. They just had a great stat

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Speaker 1: pop up on Fox about the Commanders. What's the last

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01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 1: commander quarterback to start four consecutive opening days?

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01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 2: Oh, wow, you have no chance at this. You might

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01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 2: get it, Wow.

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01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 1: Williams ripping Mark Rippin. It's the quarterback right after Doug Williams. Honestly,

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01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 1: I was a good guest with Doug Williams. But yes

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Speaker 1: it is Mark Rippin from eighty nine to ninety three. Yeah,

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01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: so they they have their guy and Jayden Daniels obviously,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see what the Giants can do next week

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Speaker 1: when they take on the Commanders. Gentlemen, this is fun.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming up, callers, good job, Thank you all.

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Speaker 3: This is fun.

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01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 5: I was like.

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Speaker 1: The game wasn't necessarily a ton of fun, but then

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01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: the Giants one hundred stuff was fun.

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01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 2: It was great scene, all the legends here it happened,

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01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 2: was great. Follow way real quick because you spend a

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01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 2: lot of time with the guys over the begin tell

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Speaker 2: me what it was like.

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Speaker 29: It was sitsational to relive the tradition and the history

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01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 29: and the camaraderie. Not just the guys who went through

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01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 29: some of the lead years who have such a great

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Speaker 29: bond because they had to fight through those struggles, but

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Speaker 29: obviously the guys who have been part.

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Speaker 2: Of the championship. You heard my interview with Prussels during

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01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:02,719
Speaker 2: the pregame.

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Speaker 29: In the middle of the interview, Pepper Johnson comes over

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Speaker 29: and him at Bill Sells Todd talkin in the middle

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01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 29: of the interview.

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Speaker 2: He's like, Hey, Peper, you doing Pepper gonna see it

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01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:11,600
Speaker 2: Bell It was.

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Speaker 1: It was that camaraderie that made it so fun. Hoppin

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01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 1: couldn't keep Pepper away from him. He didn't step in

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Speaker 1: between the two guys and say, Pepper, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to wait.

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Speaker 2: You've seen the size of Pepper Johnson lately. I would

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Speaker 2: have actually like to see what would have happened to

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Speaker 2: the Hoppit if he tried to do that. I think

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01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 2: it'd be actually kind of entertaining. He'd a bit of pancake.

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