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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where, let's just admit it, we

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Speaker 1: knew it was Jackson Dart all along.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in.

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Speaker 1: The Chris Wesleyan podcast studio, one of my favorite places

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Speaker 1: to be with one of my favorite people.

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Speaker 2: Top five at least that's pretty high. Actually, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's Jordan rodrig big show today. This is NFL Daily,

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Speaker 1: by the way, without Colleen Wolf. She's on her way

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Speaker 1: to Dublin now. I will be joining her in a

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Speaker 1: couple of days. But we have two big shows Jordan

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Speaker 1: before that happens, including one where you're putting on your

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Speaker 1: executive producer hat here.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited. I'm excited for this. I'm excited to

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Speaker 4: see what you guys do over there in Dublin. I'm

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Speaker 4: excited to be on the Thursday night show Reco with

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Speaker 4: Nick Shook, the Great Nick Shuck, the Humble Nick Shook.

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Speaker 4: This year, this is going to be really fun. This

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Speaker 4: would be a fun week. You will be missed by

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Speaker 4: some people, and I'm very excited for you.

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Speaker 1: Little distance isn't bad and you're not gonna miss me

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Speaker 1: that much because you know I'll be on the shows

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 2: Talking through a box throughout the trip.

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Speaker 1: And yes, your segment are takes that I can take

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Speaker 1: with me to Dublin and London, like takes that we

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Speaker 1: believe in enough that we would take them. We would

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Speaker 1: bring him overseas, we would talk a lot about him.

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Speaker 1: We have some news to get to today and then

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Speaker 1: we have a very Jordan Codd TNF preview Seahawks and Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: a game that I'm really excited to watch, although I'll

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Speaker 1: probably watch it the next morning and listen to your

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Speaker 1: recap while i'm doing so.

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Speaker 2: But you mentioned the humble Nick Shook.

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Speaker 1: I'm still coming down from that Lions Ravens game, and

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Speaker 1: I just am amazed that Nick Shook made it through

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Speaker 1: an entire show and we went deep on that game,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't mention the fact that he was practically

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Speaker 1: the only person in all of media to pick the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions to win that game. And the reason that

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Speaker 1: I know that he did it is because Dan Campbell's wife, Holly.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, you can see her Instagram

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Speaker 1: story given it to Nick Schuk, the only one to.

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Speaker 2: Pick them one out of ten for the NFL.

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Speaker 1: OH for five on ESPN with our old colleague Pete

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Speaker 1: Schrager there and he believed and he didn't even mention it.

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Speaker 1: And maybe she maybe she's a fan of Shook because

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Speaker 1: he kind of looks like.

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Speaker 4: Dan Campbell, Nick Schuck drinks for free and Detroit here

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Speaker 4: too forward.

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Speaker 1: He really is the best, So good job by him,

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Speaker 1: and good job by everyone that's overreacting and burying the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: We'll have more to talk about that on the previous show.

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Speaker 1: I think people are overreacting a little, but there are concerns.

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Speaker 1: We're at the point of the season where it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's early, but it's not that that early. It's actually

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Speaker 1: late enough to make a starting quarterback change in New York,

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Speaker 1: as I alluded to late Monday night, but we wanted

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Speaker 1: the official news. Russell Wilson is benched. This is being

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Speaker 1: reported by Ian Rappaport and Tom Pelisero at NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it will be confirmed officially sooner than later,

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Speaker 1: and Dart is expected to start Week four against the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is expected to be the backups, which means

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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston would be number three.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, duh?

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Speaker 4: No, I mean it really this is like this has

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Speaker 4: been coming since they drafted him.

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Speaker 3: We knew this.

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Speaker 4: It just it was a matter of win and you

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Speaker 4: and I I think we're driving the train here for

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Speaker 4: probably sooner rather than later. This is no slight to

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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson. Obviously he had really really great Week two.

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Speaker 2: Week three, Oh, it's a little bit of a slight Week.

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Speaker 3: Three far less.

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Speaker 4: So this offense really is struggling and Brian Dables clearly

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Speaker 4: feeling the pressure. My colleague at the Athletic, Dan dug In,

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Speaker 4: if Brian Dable's gonna go down, he's going down with

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Speaker 4: We knew this right from the second they called his

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Speaker 1: If he struggled in the preseason, if he hadn't even

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Speaker 1: average preseason for a rookie quarterback, it would have been different.

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Speaker 2: This was not a normal preseason. Doesn't mean that it's

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Speaker 1: Everyone likes to put point out the Kenny Pickett preseason

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Speaker 1: First of all, that was his second year. But Jackson

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Speaker 1: Dart played more than double the amount of snaps that

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying like he's in advanced calculus in

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Speaker 1: after that preseason, partly because I saw the light just

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Speaker 1: They ran a totally different offense with Jackson Dart. So

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Speaker 1: it's like, why wait around the Giants beat reporters were

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Speaker 1: always weird to me that they thought this was going

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Speaker 4: Dan. Dan has been pounding this drum and he has

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Speaker 3: Will say too, this is like.

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Speaker 4: Some of this is definitely logical and has been for

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Speaker 4: some time.

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Speaker 3: Just because you sign.

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Speaker 4: The veteran who is a very well known brand who

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Speaker 4: At this point, I do think that Brian Dable wants

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Speaker 4: can build an offense around a quarterback that he is

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Speaker 4: You have to at this point reputationally and logically, right.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers are a tough matchup this week, although pass

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Speaker 1: You know, this is all before a very late buy,

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Speaker 1: so it's an uphill battle. But he will have Andrew

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Speaker 1: So that's what I selfishly care about, Like I'm more

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Speaker 4: This view it's Camp Scataboo too, So I got to

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Speaker 4: ask you this question because it's it's Jackson Dart, who's

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Speaker 4: very Brian Dable coded in terms of like they like

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Speaker 4: Brian Dable sees himself a little bit, it seems like

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Speaker 3: With each other.

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Speaker 4: And Camp Scataboo is like if Brian Dabile currently played

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Speaker 3: If it makes no sense.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's kind of like this is the most

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Speaker 4: Brian coded, you know, quarterback running back tandem for him

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Speaker 4: Brian Dable, what.

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Speaker 3: Are we doing?

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Speaker 1: He's got He's got to make it work, and Scattaboo

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Speaker 3: So much rage, right, there's just so much rage.

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Speaker 1: You know, it fits New York table does fit New

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Speaker 1: gonna be all scattaboo. Also with the Giants, I noted

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Speaker 1: What could go wrong? Some other news to get through.

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Speaker 1: Michael Evans is full name, usually called Mike. I don't

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Speaker 1: last year. Ian Rappaport said that this one might not

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Speaker 4: I love about this Bucks team, even though they're so

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Speaker 4: There's never a right time to be as hurd as

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Speaker 1: True, except the schedule is so hard. So but that's

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Speaker 1: why these games have been so big. They could lose

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Speaker 1: and three, And that's fine. If you can get healthy

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Speaker 1: So that is a tough stretch. I'm going to put

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Speaker 2: You just have.

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Speaker 1: It's just a great I love with you. Just an

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Speaker 1: the games and doing it early. If you can choose

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Speaker 4: It's not necessarily even you know how great can Ward

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Speaker 2: Talk to people.

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Speaker 1: And I do like if there's any silver lining about

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Speaker 1: like how this is reported and the way it was

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Speaker 1: talked about, it's just I do think people are more

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Speaker 1: comfortable talking about that now. So rest in peace. Rudy

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Speaker 1: Johnson passes away at forty five years old. The NFL

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Speaker 1: Plus visit Plus dot NFL dot com. Four terms. I

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Speaker 1: love this time of year. I love the fact that

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Speaker 1: we get another broadcast window.

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Speaker 2: Oh you got to wake up early to watch football?

454
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Speaker 2: Like that's great, give me another window.

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Speaker 1: Like it's not going anywhere people by the way, like

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Speaker 1: there is only going to be more international games.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to go overseas. I've started the packing process, Jordan.

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Speaker 4: It's such a good crowd too. I'm so excited for you.

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Speaker 4: That'll be super fun. I think it's really important that

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Speaker 4: you brought up that you started packing, Greg, because we

462
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Speaker 4: have a pretty fun segment today. And before you introduce

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Speaker 4: the segment, I really want to make sure that listeners

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Speaker 4: and viewers, if you're checking us out on YouTube, and

465
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Speaker 4: you should for this part at least, are aware of

466
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Speaker 4: Greg's suitcase that is comically large, that is walker for scale,

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Speaker 4: so it's the suitcase that a small child could definitely

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Speaker 4: fit in. He could fit in that, Yeah, for sure, Walker,

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Speaker 4: maybe Ellis could separately fit into that.

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Speaker 3: Greg could make you made.

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Speaker 1: Fun of me because I brought a massive suitcase to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl, which it wasn't necessary, I would say,

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Speaker 1: I guess for that long of a trip. But it's like,

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Speaker 1: why not If you're going to check your suitcase anyways,

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Speaker 1: why not have as much room it is as possible?

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Speaker 1: And then you're gonna buy gifts because I'm a giver.

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Speaker 4: It's like maybe the biggest suitcase I've ever seen a

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Speaker 4: human own.

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Speaker 1: Definitely, Yeah, the one, the one my wife bought so

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Speaker 1: that she could, you know, bring it overseas on her

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Speaker 1: trips to Tokyo. And that that picture, by the way,

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Speaker 1: if you are checking out, is just my excuse to

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Speaker 1: show my favorite thing in my house, my bookshelf.

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Speaker 2: So your son, he's fine, he's fine.

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Speaker 1: It's like, how's that Texans fandom like working out for you, buddy?

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Speaker 1: Problem locker?

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's good about that one. I love it. I

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Speaker 2: love this idea.

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Speaker 1: So you're going to present some takes, Yes, this is

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Speaker 1: your idea, and I'm going to take them with me.

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Speaker 1: I'll choose the one that I choose to take with me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll debate. We'll debate them a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But it's important to see that picture of the suitcase, Greg,

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Speaker 4: because you can only as large as it is, as

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Speaker 4: absurdly large as it is, you can really only fit

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Speaker 4: three to four takes with you when you bring yourself

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Speaker 4: and you're with you to Ireland to share everything with

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Speaker 4: the good people in Dublin.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have a lot of clothes too. I've got some.

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Speaker 4: You have a lot of shackets and you need to

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Speaker 4: make sure those fit too.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: It's different weather there, and also I'm thinking of bringing

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Speaker 1: and this is a little tease, there's still some tickets

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Speaker 1: available for the Friday night show I'm doing with the

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Speaker 1: Irish NFL Show, where Neil Reynolds is going to be there,

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Speaker 1: Michael mcquaid's going to be there. We might have a

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Speaker 1: special guest from the NFL media family.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Working on that, I'm thinking of bringing all my NFL

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Speaker 1: Network polos that I didn't open this year that they

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Speaker 1: gave me for inside training team. I have like five

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Speaker 1: NFL Network polos, Tommy Bahama and I'm thinking of bringing them,

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Speaker 1: and they're just throwing them out into the crowd like

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Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey. I don't know that they just smack someone

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Speaker 1: in the sun come. So I need to make room

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Speaker 1: for that. But that means less room for takes. All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Let's get to it.

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Speaker 4: For me on the way back. Okay, So we are

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Speaker 4: going to go between a couple of takes. The first

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Speaker 4: one that I want you to pick? Which take?

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Speaker 3: Which? Which of these would you pick? You can only

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Speaker 3: pick one?

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Speaker 4: Yes, which offense is still good in December? Okay, battle

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Speaker 4: Seahawks or the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the take would be this, the Seahawks are

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Speaker 1: still a good offense. Like, is it top five? Is

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Speaker 1: it top ten? You gotta be specifically whatever takes, it's important, it's.

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Speaker 4: Whatever you think good. Okay, pelifies as including the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I would go let's go top eight because I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's the top quarter of the league that you

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Speaker 1: know you're you're excelling. I I know that the Colts

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Speaker 1: have the top offense in the league right now by

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Speaker 1: a decent margin. I mean they're you know, through three games,

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Speaker 1: it's one of the greatest offenses in NFL history. They've

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Speaker 1: basically been perfect. The Seahawks have been good. This is tough.

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Speaker 1: You're throwing these out there, maybe having an opinion, so

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Speaker 1: I'm curious, Yeah, what are the factors you're looking at?

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Speaker 4: You know what, I tend to gravitate toward like non outliers.

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Speaker 4: So I think the Colts are going to stay really solid.

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Speaker 4: I do think that once you get into November December,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of tape out there. There's a lot

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Speaker 4: of defenses adjusting to how they they play the Colts.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of defenses adjusting to how they contain

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Speaker 4: Tyler Warren for example. Of course, you got a factor

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Speaker 4: in the receivers as well, a lot of defenses that

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Speaker 4: it will be playing Daniel Jones differently similar to what

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks are doing. You know, there's going to be

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Speaker 4: teams to try to ramp up the pressure on Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 4: But I think in the case of the Seahawks, this

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Speaker 4: offensive line is only going to get better a week

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Speaker 4: over week because I think the way that they're playing

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Speaker 4: with Clint Kubiak as their offensive coordinator and running like

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Speaker 4: a real throwback version of the QBAC offense. I think

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Speaker 4: they sustain specifically into December because of what they've put

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Speaker 4: on tape so far and their commitment to running the

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Speaker 4: ball the way that they do, specifically out of these

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Speaker 4: heavy personnel, heavier personnel packages, using the full back, using

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Speaker 4: these guys to really settle the quarterback, and running sort

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Speaker 4: of a timeless version of this under center play action

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Speaker 4: that they're doing with Sam Darnold, which will help him

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Speaker 4: and settle him. And this defense is only going to

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Speaker 4: get better as it already is really good, it's only

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Speaker 4: going to get better. So that's that's what I think

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Speaker 4: is it's the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Comparing the two, the Seahawks have the big advantage at quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even as good as Daniel Jones is, plain No, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: He's been very efficient, very similar in almost every way

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Speaker 1: to how he played with Minnesota. Now we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Thursday night game. But it's amazing that

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Speaker 1: he's thrown the ball the least of any starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the league. But his per row numbers are incredibly efficient,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's making some difficult plays. Like you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the old school Kubiak offense, like it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of like bootleg lefts and he's good throw across his

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Speaker 1: body and that's great. Okay, So to the big edges

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Speaker 1: that quarterback and that that's a huge one. I think

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Speaker 1: every other edge is with the Colts. So it's tough defense.

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Speaker 1: I'm not putting in because you said offense, and I'm like, yes,

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Speaker 1: they'll be in more favorable positions, but just offensively, coach,

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Speaker 1: I would give to Shane Steichen at this point a

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Speaker 1: body of work with some quarterbacks that aren't great. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's running RPOs out there with Gardner Minshew and was

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Speaker 1: a pretty easy pass away from making the.

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Speaker 2: Playoffs and winning that division.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I just I think I would give the

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Speaker 1: edge at this point to the play caller in the

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Speaker 1: coach and you just see him creating offensive line I

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Speaker 1: think is the Colts. I think they they deserve the

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Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt of keeping these young guys, re

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Speaker 1: signing Braden Smith.

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Speaker 2: They've played really well.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's only through three weeks, but the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks running game, like, I'm not there yet totally with it.

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Speaker 2: It's been okay, it hasn't been.

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Speaker 3: It's been okay.

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Speaker 2: It's been good.

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Speaker 3: Bistically you see.

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Speaker 4: This reminds me very much of Sean McVay rams twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three, where they were super inefficient relatively to what

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Speaker 4: they ended up becoming. But they stuck with the plan,

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Speaker 4: and they put the blueprint out there, and they stuck

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Speaker 4: with it over and over and over again. And part

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Speaker 4: of that was a big piece of the install in

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Speaker 4: overturning that identity that they had. That's what I think

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks are doing right now.

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Speaker 1: I love that because that's looking at it long term.

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Speaker 1: I think if you look at the players on their

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Speaker 1: offensive line, there's probably a higher ceiling They've got, you know,

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Speaker 1: the high picks at the tackle position, they have young

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Speaker 1: players in the middle. They keep grayz Abel the first

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Speaker 1: round pick. They could keep getting better and better. But

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Speaker 1: some of these colts haven't played too much either. And

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks like running stats are a little uneven, like

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Speaker 1: even in that big Ken Walker game, Charboney's ten for fifteen.

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Speaker 1: So they've had some great plays, some okay plays. The

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Speaker 1: passing is very good.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I'm saying I'm going off of I'm

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Speaker 4: watching their the blueprint be installed. This is it that

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Speaker 4: they're installing it. This way now because they think they're

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Speaker 4: going to be badass in December.

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Speaker 1: Where I'm gonna take the Colts are still a top

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Speaker 1: eight offense in December taking Ireland. Taking it to Ireland

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Speaker 1: is everything else is the depth of the weapons. Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Taylor might be the best pure running back in the

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Speaker 1: league right now. I mean that, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: you can be any better than he is. And then

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Speaker 1: you have Jackson Smith and Jigba we'll talk about more

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Speaker 1: in the preview, who to me is easily better than

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Speaker 1: any weapon on Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: He's that good.

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Speaker 1: He might be a top He's a top ten receiver

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Speaker 1: right now, which is crazy, like he's getting to the

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins' breakout year, top five type of level. But man,

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Speaker 1: after that, it's just not as deep, whereas the Colts

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Speaker 1: just can hit you with so many different things. You

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Speaker 1: want some physicality, we got Tyler Warren. You want some physicality,

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Speaker 1: we got Michael Pittman. You want a slot that can

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Speaker 1: run you like the prime hunter renfro routes, but also

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Speaker 1: can go up the seam kind of deep like that's

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Speaker 1: Josh Downs for you. You want a little wild card

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Speaker 1: on the outside with Ady Mitchell they got, they got

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Speaker 1: a lot of players.

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Speaker 2: I'm going Colts.

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Speaker 1: The last last reason to man, I have too many

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Speaker 1: reasons is they've already stacked these great stats now, so

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Speaker 1: that'll they get to keep those. And then the and

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Speaker 1: then the schedule. The schedule is easier for the Colts,

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Speaker 1: and they're they're hard. Part of the schedule is late.

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Speaker 1: They have Seattle, San Francisco and Houston very late again.

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Speaker 1: And so for the most part, I'm gonna I'm going

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Speaker 1: to Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: So Greg is taking the take that the Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 4: will be a top eight defense.

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Speaker 3: I hear that offense in the December.

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Speaker 1: All right, well we'll put that on our document. We're

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Speaker 1: actually keeping track of. Yes, these takes this year.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

659
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 4: Okay, second take option to pack, pack or no pack? Okay,

660
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 4: which one is real? You're packing? Whichever of these is

661
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 4: more real? Okakay, the Rams first half against the Eagles

662
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 4: last week or the Eagles second half against the Rams?

663
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: Which one are you packing?

664
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: And this is unfair because I believe in them both.

665
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: Well, you can't have both.

666
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 4: Your suitcase is only so absurdly large.

667
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: I have to pack the Eagles.

668
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: I have to pack the Eagles, because it's all there,

669
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: We've all seen it before. There's no particular reason to

670
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: think that it's going away. But I believe in them both.

671
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't believe that's a game that the Rams should

672
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: be holding their head about.

673
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: We're talking about the entire team, right, yeah.

674
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 4: But I'm saying which is more real both as a

675
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: harbinger for the entire season, the Rams first half against

676
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 4: the Eagles, which also factors in the Eagles first half

677
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: against the Rams, okay, or the Eagles second half against

678
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: the Rams, which also factors in the Rams second half

679
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: against the Eagles.

680
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: You know, I'm really pret I'm really breaking my brain

681
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: because the reality is, I do believe if I had

682
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: to choose three teams that I think are most likely

683
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: to be in the divisional round of the playoffs, these

684
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: would be two of my three teams.

685
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: That's not the question.

686
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: It would be the Eagles, the Rams and the Packers.

687
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: There's only so much space, though, you need a bigger.

688
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: Suitcase the concept here.

689
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: I wish you guys could. If you're watching on.

690
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: YouTube, it's hurting.

691
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: Gregg's gotten more and more frazzled. He started because I

692
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: was filling up his hair in a very eccentric way.

693
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: The first half of that I guess you could look

694
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: at each half, especially the first half of that game

695
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: is as dominant as a team could possibly be. So

696
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: the Rams, to me, to live up to the billing

697
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: of that first half would have to be the best

698
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: team in the NFL, because if they didn't settle for

699
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: a couple field goals where Matthew Stafford misses a couple passages,

700
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: it was everything. It was complete domination against the defending

701
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl chance where the second half against the Eagles,

702
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: to me is repeatable.

703
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: I've seen it in the biggest of spots. I have

704
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: my doubts.

705
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: Think that's more real, that's what you think is more real.

706
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have my doubts about how their regular season

707
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: is going to go. The Philadelphia Eagles like overall, but

708
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: when we get to December, all the compos are there

709
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: for them to round into shape and be the team

710
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: that they started to be around December last year.

711
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Greg has taking the Eagle second half against.

712
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: The ruler as you clearly are leaning ring, I'm just

713
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: here to in the debate. What what did you see

714
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: from that?

715
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: What I think is more real is how the Rams

716
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: looked because the Rams did not look great in some spots,

717
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: including finishing drives with touchdowns right and Stafford looking old

718
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: and missing throws and not picking up key laid down situations.

719
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: That's what I think looked real.

720
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: As dominant as they were in the box score, other

721
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 4: than you know, scoring touchdowns, I think that's pretty reflective

722
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: of who the.

723
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: Rams have been.

724
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: I love their run game right now, and their run

725
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: game especially is the backbone of this team, and it's

726
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 4: finally there after a couple of years of trying to

727
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 4: do that. I also think it's more real that the

728
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: Eagles will start slow many games this season, but that

729
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 4: but that's why I'm sort of looking at it in

730
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: a different lens than you. It's not that I'm saying

731
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 4: they're the most dominant team, It's that I think that

732
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: was actually pretty reflective of what the Rams are going

733
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: to be this year.

734
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, and I and I think right now,

735
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: like there, I that's why I picked them to win

736
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: that game. I ended up being wrong. I think right

737
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: now they're ahead of where the Eagles are overall. The

738
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: big caveat with both the Colts and the Rams. Takes,

739
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: by the way, are that I worry about the quarterbacks' health.

740
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is taking way too many big hits, and

741
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: then Matthew Stafford. It just goes without saying. With the Eagles,

742
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: though I'm the resourcefulness with which they had got themselves

743
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: out of trouble, they will dig themselves holes at times

744
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: this year in games, and I think in the season overall,

745
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: But I think what is real is the overall talent

746
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: and ultimately the backbone of the organization that they figure

747
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: things out over the course of the season.

748
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: So I'm saying they're real.

749
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 3: Do you know?

750
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 4: My favorite part of that game was was around the

751
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: NFL as used to that the tropes, ye season tropes,

752
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 4: And what I really loved is that the trope of

753
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: I'm in the best shape of my life coming out

754
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 4: of training camp, yeah, actually proved to be true for

755
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 4: Jordan Davis, who hit eighteen miles an hour. Oh my gosh,

756
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: everyone's like always in shape. He's in shape, and like,

757
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, we've heard this a million times, but

758
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: actually look at him go like barreling down the field

759
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 4: with Rams players in pursuit, no chance of even catching him,

760
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 4: realizing what was happening in front of their very eyes,

761
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 4: poor Bo Limmer in the mix of that block field

762
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 4: goal with Kevin Dotson injured out out of the field,

763
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: just like the Rams. Oh no, that happened to them

764
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: last year in the postseason. I mean god, there was

765
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 4: some there was some sick poetry in that game.

766
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: It's why sometimes it is important to check out the

767
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: local coverage because so on the All Phoy podcast the

768
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: first two weeks of the season, they were really talking

769
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: about fran Duffy does a great job breaking down the film.

770
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: You know, they thought it was Jordan Davis's best two

771
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: games of his career back to back weeks one and two.

772
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: Don't think that was a national conversation.

773
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: Don't think it totally all showed up in the box score,

774
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: but they thought, like week two, man, he looked amazing,

775
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: and so this is not a fluke like seeing him

776
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: having this breakout, and they've needed it because they need

777
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: some people to step up. All right, I'm taking that

778
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles are going to be fine.

779
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: Okay, you're running out of room and you're absurdly luck

780
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 4: suitcase you do have room for a quarterback. Okay, Okay,

781
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: so this is the caveat you have to pick a

782
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 4: quarterback who is not currently on Quarterback Island to pack

783
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 4: into your absurdly large suitcase and take with you overseas.

784
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: Who would it be.

785
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: Not on Quarterback Island. We haven't talked to any quarterback

786
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: Island in a while. And for the listeners out there,

787
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: for the fans, We're going to wait till till I'm back.

788
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: So it's going to be a little bit of a

789
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: longer gestation period. People proving themselves. Guys like CJ. Stroud

790
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: who are on the island and not feeling great about it,

791
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: they have some time to rebound a little bit. Rock Perdy,

792
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: who's not healthy, has time to do so it's really

793
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: interesting to look at our list. Okay, some options here.

794
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: Drake Mays look good for through a couple of weeks.

795
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: Why was that going to be your first one first game?

796
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't have been, But then I was like,

797
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: looking at you're back, You're all the way back. At

798
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: all the advanced metrics, the PFFS, the EPA's basically every qbrs.

799
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: It's like, Drake May is pretty high up there, but

800
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: you know it's ahead of them in everything is Daniel Jones.

801
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: It would be fascinating if he is playing well enough. Yeah,

802
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: but I can take someone. Now you're saying in the suitcase.

803
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: You're you're packing this person with you to Ireland.

804
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: Okay throughout who else is even that's not on the

805
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: island that is in this discussion.

806
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: I'm taking Caleb Williams.

807
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: What.

808
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm taking cayleb Jams.

809
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: Yes, just because you think it'd be fun.

810
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: Currently number eight in the NFL and epeople.

811
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: Going like the Guinness Tour with him or so.

812
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: Yes, it is very skewed and uh played a near

813
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 4: perfect game, definitely the most perfect game a quarterback has

814
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 4: played in Chicago in a very long time. This is

815
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 4: crazy this last week, but I actually, I really think

816
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 4: that you're seeing week over a week like a steady

817
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 4: trajectory with him, because I'm thinking about, hey, quarterback island.

818
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: We're not really doing it for the next until you

819
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: know you're back in the next two weeks. Who is

820
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 4: on that incline in improvement? Who is somebody who? Man,

821
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: we really wished we could have put him on the

822
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 4: island during his rookie season. He obviously did not get

823
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 4: there for many reasons, including his own play. Wow, watching

824
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: his improvement, I thought he actually was pretty good in

825
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 4: week two, made a couple of mistakes that that interception

826
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: was really bad, but you could see improvement. He's seeing

827
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 4: it better in another trope. It's slowing down for him.

828
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 4: Clearly his receivers are on a better page with him.

829
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 4: His offensive line is playing better. And also, I definitely

830
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 4: thought you were going to pick Daniel Jones, which is

831
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 4: another reason why I picked camb.

832
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: Okay, no, that's fair, and I haven't made my final decision. Yeah,

833
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: I was amazed that you threw that out there.

834
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 2: That's spicy.

835
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: I have to still surprise you.

836
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: So it's like it feels premature, but it's it's just

837
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: off a couple of weeks and it's just taking him,

838
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: you know, it's not putting him on the island. If

839
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: he continues this trajectory for the next couple of weeks,

840
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: it will be a really interesting conversation because, like, that's

841
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: what I'm counting on Daniel Jones. Yeah, that and the

842
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: matchups aren't that tough relatively. I think he has Las

843
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: Vegas this week. Okay, Darnold would be another name you

844
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: could throw out there. I mean, he's playing really well.

845
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 1: He's going to be part of the conversation. Jordan Love

846
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: is not coming off a great game, but is playing

847
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: at a pretty high level. That's why it gets it's

848
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: hard for me to get there a little bit with

849
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: Caleb right now. I am, you know, I am factoring

850
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: that Cowboys defense in quite heavily into the Caleb conversation.

851
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: I guess it has to be Daniel Jones right now.

852
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: I feel like it has to be Daniel Jones that

853
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 4: you that you take with you, and it's like a

854
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: good opportunity for some bonding, you know, asking him about

855
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: what he went through.

856
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: It would be like the most feelings and all that

857
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of its first read. And

858
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: people are going to get on him that it's like

859
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: schemed up, and I think there there is some truth

860
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: to that. But there's a lot of dimes too, Like

861
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: they're not easy throws and he's making them under pressure.

862
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: Will he continue it?

863
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: The number one thing that worries me about the entire

864
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Cold season is if you are watching each and

865
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: every one of these games, he takes three or four

866
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: massive hits every game. Yeah, sometimes he invites them, not

867
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: just inviting the pressure, because he's a little oblivious to it.

868
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: At times, although his pocket presence is better. But he's

869
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: got that Cam Newton thing where he just stands there

870
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: and gets crushed. But when he's running, there's one hit

871
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: a game running where he just gets his clock cleaned

872
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: and like that. That worries me. You know.

873
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know that's and that's fair. And again

874
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: I'm projecting over the next couple of weeks continued trajectory,

875
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: and I think it's fair. I think it's fair for

876
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 4: you to pack Daniel Jones because first of all, you know,

877
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 4: let him see the world.

878
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: They would be more fun.

879
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: May would be more just like we could play some

880
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: pickup hoops. You know, I don't know at this point

881
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: now I'm hanging out.

882
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 4: I feel like you'd like, this is a good thing

883
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 4: for you to do for Daniel Jones. Let him see

884
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: the world a little bit, and you know, spread your

885
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 4: wings and flocks.

886
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Daniel Jones is the guy. Although I'm only not

887
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: taking Drake made because it would seem like I'm being biased.

888
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 2: I do think they.

889
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: Seem seem like you're being biased.

890
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: Oh he he just played an incredible two weeks of

891
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: football here the last two weeks.

892
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm aware, but I'm Also, there's no seam about

893
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 4: your biases here.

894
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: That's why, Yeah, I would put him. Darnold love all

895
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: of them right now they're in the mix. It's going

896
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: to be an interesting conversation. By the way, yet, because

897
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: I mentioned CJ. Stroud is on the list right now,

898
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. Yeah, and you know it's other

899
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: than that, there's not many obvious ones that would get

900
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: bumped off.

901
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: Rock Perty would probably be the other one.

902
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: I think one thing too that Daniel Jones has going

903
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 4: f him in terms of taking this trip with you

904
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 4: is he will be inside your suitcase. But he's pretty

905
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 4: used to like the cargo area by now after his

906
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 4: time in New York.

907
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: You know, just in the belly of an impossible situation. Wow,

908
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: the dark crammed in two.

909
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: It's wondering where you're going there, terrible.

910
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: There will be open spots, Joe Burrow, I kind of

911
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: forgot we'll unfortunately get booted off because.

912
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 3: And we don't know, and brock Perty might not be

913
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: there either.

914
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: There could be some availability.

915
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: It's the suitcase. He's a massive human being. Greg, Yes,

916
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: he's a massive human So I feel like we've got

917
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 4: to unpack a take at least for you to feel

918
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: like your suitcase will hit the weight limit and you

919
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: can actually take it with you with all these takes. Also,

920
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, what is a preseason take that you had

921
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 4: that you are willing to leave behind.

922
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: As you that we're done with, We're done with the take?

923
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that you're that you cannot once it's gone, it's gone.

924
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 2: It's there's so many to choose from.

925
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 3: I was wrong about so many things.

926
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: Because we have a daily show. Yeah, that gives me

927
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: a little time.

928
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

929
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: Mine is the Houston Texans. Like God, I see this defense,

930
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 4: and I see how professional they are.

931
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to leave him behind, but they make.

932
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 4: You know they've they've been strangely like penalty full and

933
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: undisciplined and I think frustrated and kind of playing like that.

934
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: Their defense is so physical and they just they hurt

935
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: people and they're so I think they're well coached at

936
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 4: the head position. And on the other side of it,

937
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 4: it's like an absolute disaster on offense. And I don't

938
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 4: care how good your defense is if you are not

939
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 4: at least at the median of the league offensively in

940
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: success rate, in the ability to even like get the

941
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 4: ball off you know, snapped and off the line of

942
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: scrimmage because your offensive line is getting beat so much

943
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 4: so fast, they're not moving people. It's the same stuff

944
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 4: over and over again. And yes, there are some things

945
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: where you would like to see CJ. Stroud continue to

946
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: progress and not hold the ball in some cases. And

947
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 4: there are health that there had been health issues and

948
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: a couple of really inexperienced receivers in the in the

949
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 4: mix as well, and that's part of the problem. But

950
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 4: like you fired your offensive coordinator, you hired Nick Cassario's

951
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 4: guy as your new offensive coordinator. Yeah, and now you

952
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 4: and you have a similarly terrible offense of line.

953
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: Like everyone's coming for Casario, It's like Demiko Ryans is

954
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: the coach there, so he, to me, gets the most responsibility.

955
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: H I don't care.

956
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 4: Nick Cassario hired a John Carroll guy who also worked

957
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 4: with him in New England.

958
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: So did Demiko Ryans has no saying on who's the

959
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator.

960
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: That's saying he has no say. We don't know what

961
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 4: the power balance was for that hire.

962
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: And I'm saying if he didn't hire he'd be one

963
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: of the only head coaches in the league that isn't

964
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: able to hire his.

965
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: And I'm coordinator.

966
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he didn't hire him. I'm saying I

967
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 4: don't know what the power dynamic was. I don't know

968
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 4: what the conversations were, neither to you. And what I

969
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 4: think the case is here is like, I actually don't

970
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 4: think that Nick Kyley will will be a bad coordinator.

971
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 4: I understand what he wants to do, and I also

972
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: know what he wants to try to get this offense to,

973
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 4: especially with CJ. Stroud's very specific skill set that is elite,

974
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: has elite.

975
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 3: Potential, but they don't have the offensive line.

976
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: I'm not willing to leave this one behind, though. I'm

977
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: not giving up on them. Well, I think it'll work out.

978
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: Mine was that they were gonna win the Super Bowl.

979
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: So I am leaving that take behind. I'm scrapping it.

980
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm not backing that anywhere. We're leaving it, We're burning it.

981
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: That's it.

982
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: I had them winning the division, but like with a

983
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: ten and seven record, like kind of like last year,

984
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: but it just looked a little different. They are twentieth

985
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: defensively in DVOA right now. I'm shocked by that. I

986
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: think it's because they are giving up a lot of

987
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: successful plays and a lot of long drives because I'm

988
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: trying to do the math and they're not creating enough

989
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: turnovers right now. Situationally, they have given up big drives

990
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: in the biggest moments of each one of those games.

991
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: That's not baked into those numbers where they overweight like

992
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. But I'm shocked by that. Their defense

993
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: is also ranked that.

994
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: When you watch them, it's not that low, Like.

995
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. They're gonna be Yeah, I think they're

996
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. So so many options of what I

997
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: could wash my hands.

998
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: Of, unpack it. Greg.

999
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: The Cowboys takes were all made before Mica trade. Like,

1000
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have made those takes, you know. I tried

1001
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: to hold on to it, just be like, okay, maybe

1002
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: they'll still be a fun intereen offensive team, you know.

1003
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: So I don't.

1004
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad about that, Like I guess I'm

1005
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: leaving that behind, But I don't. I don't even count

1006
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: those takes right they made before the Parsons trade. The

1007
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: ones that stand out to me is the Colts were

1008
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: my number two pick in our over underdraft, taking the

1009
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: under on the Colts, and yeah, that was seven and

1010
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: a half.

1011
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 2: I'm leaving.

1012
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm leaving that behind. I'm embarrassed by a take that

1013
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: was so bad I didn't even remember it. And Eric

1014
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: brought it up before the show. He says, I called

1015
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen a slouch? Is that possible? But I definitely

1016
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: know that I dismissed the potential impact of Keenan Allen

1017
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: to this Chargers team. And I've been stunned out.

1018
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 4: Good and to the recap show, as you predicted I would.

1019
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: And uh, Eric had a lot of very specific receipts.

1020
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: We have Eric's microphone here. What did I call him?

1021
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: I called them a slow I want to say you

1022
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: called them a slouch.

1023
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm digging for transcripts right now for like the exact quote, because.

1024
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to throw that out to you.

1025
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter either way. That's horribly wrong. And Keenan

1026
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,959
Speaker 1: when it was announced, that's horribly wrong. So I'm leaving

1027
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: both that and.

1028
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 3: The Colts who was pro Keenan Allen, Daniel Jeremiah.

1029
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: That it was going to work out.

1030
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, they are actually splitting the ball three ways,

1031
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: like Quintin Johnston is like the number one right now,

1032
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: Lad McConkie actually has fewer yards on the season than

1033
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, who's looked great. So that was a horrible take.

1034
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: The Colts take I'm leaving behind as well. We were

1035
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: opening up room. I'm leaving up multiple takes.

1036
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: That was fun.

1037
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: Let's go have room to bring me back presents, Yes.

1038
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: And buy some buy some stuff. I feel like I

1039
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: don't have enough clothes. I buy some there, which is

1040
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: a bad always a bad plan. Let's talk about the

1041
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: TNF preview before we get out of here. It's Seahawks

1042
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: at the Cardinals. The Seahawks are favored by one and

1043
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: a half in this game in Arizona.

1044
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: That's flipped.

1045
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: I happened to look on Sunday and the Cardinals were

1046
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: favored back then, and so that indicates that all the

1047
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: regular Joe like me out there like, well, the Seahawks

1048
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: have clearly been better, and they flip that by by

1049
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: going to Seattle.

1050
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: I just think they have looked a lot better.

1051
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: I think if the two teams play how they've played

1052
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: so far this season, it'll be an interesting matchup when

1053
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: Seattle has the ball offensively, and it'll be a mismatch

1054
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: in Seattle's defense's favor when Arizona has the ball. That's

1055
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: that's how I see this, at least in terms of

1056
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: how they've played.

1057
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: Through three weeks.

1058
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it was horrible to see James Connor

1059
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 4: and go down the way that he did, and Trey Bentson. Obviously,

1060
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: we'll step up and take the workload there, and you

1061
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: know they'll get you know, Paris Johnson back. You know,

1062
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 4: he'll be sounds like he'll be playing. They're still you know,

1063
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 4: it's you're very unsure about what this Cardinals offense is

1064
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 4: beyond what it was last season. And they're they're sometimes

1065
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: they're really trying to get the ball to Marvin Harrison Junior.

1066
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: Sometimes it doesn't seem like they're really trying to get

1067
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: the Baldemrves and Harrison Junior. Sometimes he's making mistakes. He

1068
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: spoke at length after this loss in San Francisco to

1069
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 4: reporters about just how disappointed in himself he was for

1070
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: his own errors throughout throughout the game, his own mistakes,

1071
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: and just frustrated. I think that it's not coming together

1072
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 4: enough the way that they needed more from everybody going.

1073
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: Putting a lot of pressure on himself.

1074
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: Putting a lot of pressure on himself.

1075
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 4: And again it's like it's almost like unnecessary in my mind,

1076
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 4: because this is always this is just a team that

1077
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: should continue the etho, should not bend into the external

1078
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 4: pressure of the media pressure or whatever. To have a

1079
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 4: true X receiver right away, you need this guy to

1080
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 4: be your ex and your you know, your first round

1081
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 4: pick and your high.

1082
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 3: Pick and all that stuff.

1083
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 4: This offense runs through Trey McBride, Okay, so go throw

1084
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 4: what you know, go to what you know. And I

1085
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 4: would just love to see this young man put less

1086
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 4: on his own shoulders on this, and I think he

1087
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 4: plays a little bit more free and things things just

1088
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 4: go faster and just make more sense. And it just

1089
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 4: seems like there's there's just a tightness to this offense

1090
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 4: you were used to seeing, like the heavy personnel and

1091
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 4: them just try to run through you and put a

1092
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: hurt on you and load up in heavy personnel. The

1093
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 4: team that's doing that more successfully another like og Kubiak

1094
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: offense because ru Petsing is from the Kubiak tree. Well,

1095
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: this is literally Kubiak who's running this offense right in Seattle.

1096
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: And they're loading up in heavy personnel. They're running like

1097
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: we mentioned earlier in the show a lot of under center.

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00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: Let's stay with the Cardinals offense though, because like they

1099
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: can't run the ball. They're one of the worst rushing

1100
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: teams in the league. That to me is like everything

1101
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 1: that is a problem with them. When I look at

1102
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: like their offense, they just seem very condensed, explosive. Kyler

1103
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: is throwing the ball to the middle of the field,

1104
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: which he's like famous for not doing. It's almost like

1105
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: he's over corrected. I feel like that's the story of

1106
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's career. He's always like correcting whatever the criticism

1107
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: is about him. Actually, their entire offense is like that's

1108
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: exactly the middle of.

1109
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: The field, all of them right now.

1110
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: Though it's like okay, you know, the entire offseason, it's like,

1111
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 4: you know, especially from a fantasy football perspective, it's like

1112
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior needs to get all more. But really

1113
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 4: this offense was at its most functional when it's running

1114
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 4: through the multiple tight ends and you're not putting that

1115
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 4: pressure on his shoulders. You understand, Yeah, he's a first

1116
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: round he's a high draft pick for trun pick, but

1117
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 4: it might take a second especially within the structure of

1118
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 4: what this offense is and to get the you know,

1119
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 4: the gelling with the quarterback and all of these things,

1120
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 4: and so okay, like go be loose with what you

1121
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: know and go play free with what you know. And

1122
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: the same thing with the running game, and same thing

1123
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: with the.

1124
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: Running game is just bad though the same thing with

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00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: that's the most concern.

1126
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: Of the field. It's like, oh, he never does this.

1127
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: Okay, now, it's almost like they're listening too much to

1128
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 4: what we're saying.

1129
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: Right, And he is scrambling a lot. They said that

1130
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: all offseason he was going to scramble more. He is

1131
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: on pace for the most scrambles and the most scrambled

1132
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: yards and it has helped them since I think a

1133
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty for him. He did have that one year

1134
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: where he ran quite a bit. But they are thirtieth

1135
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: in rushing d VA and they are they're dead on

1136
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: arrival if that continues. And it's and that's including Kyler scrambles,

1137
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: which have been effective. So they are one of the worst.

1138
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: And that's been the secret sauce for them is that

1139
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: the run blocking. It was Clayton Adams who's now in

1140
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: Dallas helping to scheme it up, but they're their offensive

1141
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: line was greater than the sum of their parts. And

1142
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: then here comes Seattle, just these monsters up front who

1143
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: you don't know who's going to step up in a

1144
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: given week. They are the number one rush defense in

1145
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: the entire league. According to DVA, they are like third

1146
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: in EPA per play, and so you almost have to

1147
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: assume going into this game the Cardinals are not going

1148
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball, and then the

1149
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: matchup really becomes, you know, can Kyler get enough time

1150
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: and make some things happen in this matchup because Seattle

1151
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: they're getting production and this is coaching like from surprising places.

1152
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: Josh job is playing well at cornerback for that.

1153
00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: Is playing well.

1154
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 4: Ter Spoon and playing really well for them, had an

1155
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 4: interception two weeks ago that was absolutely crucial in that

1156
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 4: when over the Steelers, this is this is a team

1157
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 4: that is physical and tenacious and smart and fast. Which

1158
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 4: is funny because Darren Kendrick, respectfully speaking, like never really

1159
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 4: quite looked like a fast player. Tenacious one hundred percent,

1160
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 4: especially when he was playing in the slot and closer

1161
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 4: to the line of scrimmage, like would make plays on

1162
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 4: the ball was especially red screens really smartly.

1163
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 3: But in every level, you've got.

1164
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: Ernest Jones in the middle of the field still playing well,

1165
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 4: and certainly I'll need him against the run. You've got,

1166
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 4: you know, this front that just is coming more and

1167
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 4: more alive every single week, like you would expect it

1168
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 4: to do under a Mike McDonald defense. At every single level,

1169
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 4: there's this like tenacity and just a savviness and like

1170
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 4: a smart brand of football that they're playing, and I

1171
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 4: think that does not bode well for the Cardinals.

1172
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: Jay Harbaugh also has his unit playing well, the special

1173
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: teams coordinator for the Seahawks doing his thing.

1174
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: Can we relatives are on the Seahawks, right, could we Harbaugh?

1175
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 3: There's a couple of Kubiak.

1176
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: Could we get could we get another Harbass special teams

1177
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: coordinator to head coach Pipeline? I mean, the last name

1178
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: will definitely help him. We talked about the Seahawks offense earlier.

1179
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't think the Cardinals defense has been able to

1180
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: be quite as creative this year. It is start, you know,

1181
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: it is the better part of the team. One stat

1182
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: I didn't get into Sunday Show was how Klayus Campbell

1183
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: had the fastest get off time you know, which they

1184
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: record for next gen stats like getting off the ball

1185
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: of any defensive tackle in the league. He also forced

1186
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: the safety that should.

1187
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: Have won them the game.

1188
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: He is playing great, Josh Wett is playing well, but

1189
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: overall they have some disappointing players up front. They're not

1190
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: getting anything from Darius Robinson, their their first round pick.

1191
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: They've had some injuries, they've just been okay. It's a

1192
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: very okay team. They're like thirteenth and this is all

1193
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: dv A and it was a pretty easy schedule. Thirteenth

1194
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: in defense, teenth and offense, and then you look at

1195
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: other than that. The rush offense is really bad. Everything

1196
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: else is just in the middle. And Cardinals fans are sneaky,

1197
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: sick of it. I'm kind of shocked how annoyed they

1198
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: are with Petzig and this whole team. There's a lot

1199
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: of anger about a two and one Cardinals team. But

1200
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: that's why, you know, division matchups are so big. You

1201
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: go win this game and you're three and one and

1202
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: you're tied for first place potentially in the NFC West.

1203
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: If the forty nine ers happen to lose this week

1204
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: or you get the you know, it's big. This is

1205
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: a tough division, though, and every division game is going

1206
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: to be big. I am leaning Seahawks, as you probably

1207
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: could have guessed.

1208
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm picking the Seahawks in this one because I

1209
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 4: just think they they are able to overwhelm you in

1210
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 4: more areas than the Cardinals are able to sustain. And

1211
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 4: maybe if they were fully the Cardinals were fully healthy

1212
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 4: at different positions, and maybe if they weren't sort of

1213
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 4: stuck in neutral with what this offense is supposed to

1214
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 4: be versus what it's trying to be, then like maybe

1215
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 4: we're talking having a completely different conversation. But because Jonathan

1216
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 4: Gan and Nick ar Alice are not able to do

1217
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 4: exactly what they want to do on the defensive side

1218
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: of the ball, injuries that started even back in training camp,

1219
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 4: even in the spring, that sort of have had this

1220
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: ripple effect for them, And because they're just sort of

1221
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 4: neutral on offense when they should be one of the

1222
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: more smothering groups in the entire league based on the

1223
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 4: talent that they have available in the personnels they like

1224
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 4: to deploy.

1225
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Seattle's doing all those things right.

1226
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 4: They're creative on defense, they're smart on defense, They're playing

1227
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 4: a lot of different interesting things. They're getting pressure, they're

1228
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 4: stopping the run, they on offense. They are the smothering

1229
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 4: team in every area almost it, probably except for the

1230
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 4: depending on the day, the quarterback. The Seattle Seahawks are

1231
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 4: able to smother and suffocate teams more so than the Cardinals.

1232
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: They're a little further ahead.

1233
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 1: They're in year two of their program with Mike MacDonald,

1234
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: but I think they have better players ultimately. And then, yes,

1235
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are missing at least three cornerbacks in this game,

1236
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: probably four. I mean two have been gone for the

1237
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: season for a while. But Max Melton is out there playing.

1238
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: He did not look good in that forty nine game.

1239
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if he is one hundred percent. Will

1240
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: Johnson is probably not back for this game, so I'll

1241
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: take the Seahawks on the road. You're going to be

1242
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: covering this game with Patrick on Thursday night, And uh yeah,

1243
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to our Wednesday previews show.

1244
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: We'll have Steve.

1245
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: Weisch for real, this time in the studio with both me,

1246
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: you and Patrick. We will be back for that preview

1247
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: show before I headed overseas. And yes, we got some

1248
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: fun shows, some extra stuff this week, gonna connect with

1249
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: the Ringer fantasy guys, Danny Kelly, Danny Heibitz, Greg Quarterback.

1250
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: They're going to be picking games with me this week.

1251
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: That's all coming up. But before that, we got to

1252
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: get ready for a really fun week for Slate. We

1253
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: will see that.

1254
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: Don't forget to pack a breathing tube for Daniel Jones