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Speaker 1: Welcome back to our two of our live coverage here

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Speaker 1: from Canton, Ohio. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally,

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Speaker 1: and you're listening to a special edition of The Drive

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Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy and Matt. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: we brought up a piece that Rick Goslin, formerly of

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Morning News and now of Sports illustrated his

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Speaker 1: Talk of Fame network. He did a look back at

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Speaker 1: Troy Paula Malu. What's some coaches had to say, Coaches,

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Speaker 1: front office people, scouts around the league had to say

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Speaker 1: about Troy Paula Malo back in two thousand and three

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Speaker 1: coming at UC. Rick used to do this, Uh, you

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Speaker 1: know we we we've talked about the beast that Dame

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Speaker 1: Brugler puts together for the athletic Now, um, it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a big draft guide. Well, Rick did this back

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Speaker 1: in the day, going back to the early nineties for

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Morning News and so he and he still

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Speaker 1: has all of his notes, so out in with Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he's gone back for this year's draft class, or

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Speaker 1: this year's Hall of Fame class and looked at some

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Speaker 1: of these guys from that perspective, what were the what

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Speaker 1: were the what was the talk about these guys way

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Speaker 1: back when? And it was interesting with Troy too, because

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Speaker 1: some of those concerns held up. I mean, you could

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Speaker 1: see why scouts had some worries. You know, durability was

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Speaker 1: a big one, and his style of play made you think, Wow,

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Speaker 1: he's not have a tough time staying healthy. He throws

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Speaker 1: around his body and he's got concussions and all these

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Speaker 1: type of things. So I'm curious what they say about Fanica.

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Speaker 1: But from what I recall as a not expert scout

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Speaker 1: at the time, he was a pretty clean prospect. It

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Speaker 1: was pretty good. Uh So Goslin's draft analysis was this.

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Speaker 1: Fantika spent three seasons at l s U, leaving after

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Speaker 1: his junior year. He started all thirty five games of

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Speaker 1: his college career. That's pretty good. He was a freshman starter,

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Speaker 1: freshman starter, started every game at not at Southern Louisiana

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Speaker 1: but l s So he started every game he possibly could, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then left early. He earned his Associated Press All

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Speaker 1: America honors in nineteen ninety seven and was an Outland

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Speaker 1: Trophy finalist as the best lineman in college football. Won

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Speaker 1: it that year, not that it matters. Fannik allowed one

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Speaker 1: sack in his final season at l s U. He

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Speaker 1: measured in at six four and a half three and

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Speaker 1: twenty two pounds at the NFL Combine ran a four

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Speaker 1: five five three nine forty in benched uh five pounds

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Speaker 1: just twenty times long arms though for a guard. So

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Speaker 1: he's over six fo. You just said right the forty

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Speaker 1: times though back then, especially Lyneman, they didn't practice their

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Speaker 1: starts and stuff. He just went and ran. He cared

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Speaker 1: about a guard this gospel though. You say he's three yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he weighs like a hundred pounds less than that

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Speaker 1: right now. I bet he's probably still around two forty yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I mean I almost forgot how big he was.

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Speaker 1: That's a big guard's tall, and he's thick and strong.

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Speaker 1: Gosselin aided fantic of the top guard draft and placed

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Speaker 1: him twenty seven on his top one board. Doesn't hurt.

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Speaker 1: It hurts to be a guard of him. The Steelers

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Speaker 1: drafted Fanica in the first round about uh. Here are

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Speaker 1: the comments on Fanica from six talent evaluators leading up

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Speaker 1: to the draft. Not quite as many as a war

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Speaker 1: with Troy, but I think his thing kind of grew

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Speaker 1: as it went on here. But here's what one scout said,

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Speaker 1: scares you only did twenty reps. But then you watch

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Speaker 1: him play and he's stoning people a zone blocking guard.

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Speaker 1: They pull him and he's a fifty fifty blocker in space. Uh,

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Speaker 1: labors to get outside, labors to come back. But if

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Speaker 1: you if he gets you square, you're dead. He jolts you.

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Speaker 1: Great hands country strong. Watch his workout and you don't

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Speaker 1: see twenty reps. You see more. I don't remember him

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Speaker 1: laboring in space. From what I he played it lighter

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Speaker 1: than Steelers. Maybe they recommended it once they got their

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Speaker 1: hands on him or whatever. To the country strong thing

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Speaker 1: would be more. But he does have long arms. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot harder for those guys. I wonder how

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Speaker 1: guards I've seen in a long time, a buzz saw,

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Speaker 1: great effort in physical, physical and every snap. Not a

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Speaker 1: he would not look great in the one on one

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Speaker 1: blocking drills. He's going against Hampton and stuff like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Steve right now, wouldn't it was been Hampton? And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would think that's the last. You know, centers, rarely

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Speaker 1: the speed and power. It sounds like Hardings struggled with

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Speaker 1: don't anchor one double Haptens and Wilforks like that, And

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Speaker 1: why Wilfork does many numbers going back the last conversation,

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Speaker 1: but it's interesting. I mean Harding's was a premier prospect.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely yeah. Uh here's what another offensive line coach

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Speaker 1: that's that's not good in space. Then keeps coming up,

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Speaker 1: keeps coming up, and that's actually what he did. Well,

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Speaker 1: really picture him pulling and coming around and wonder different

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Speaker 1: he just learned and got better. He got better, right right.

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Speaker 1: but that sure doesn't add up for him being a

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Speaker 1: has to go backwards too often. Here's what a general

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Speaker 1: in front of him, he ain't hitting them Hardings is

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Speaker 1: more athletic, but does sound like Artings is more athletic.

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Speaker 1: Partings is more athletic, but heavy footed. A wastebender. The

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Speaker 1: wastebender thing. I don't believe. All the struggles and space

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Speaker 1: what a third offensive line coach said about him. A

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Speaker 1: warrior moves to stack. Some people lift the world, but

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Speaker 1: play week not this guy. Toughest MF in this draft.

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Speaker 1: I mean you covered him. I mean toughness was apparent, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: coaches that he talked to all loved him. And it's

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Speaker 1: the scouts in the GM who said, no, no, that

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Speaker 1: a scouting background, but I have more respect for coaches

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Speaker 1: Fannik has already been passed over five times as a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame finalist. Yeah. He went to nine Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowls in his thirteen seasons, was a six time first

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Speaker 1: team All Pro in the first team selection on the

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Speaker 1: NFL's too All Decade Team in the two thousand's All

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Speaker 1: to you know, there's not a lot of guard accolades

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Speaker 1: There aren't many guys who have been All Decades selections

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Speaker 1: The only player with a strong a stronger Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame resume on one slate would have been Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 1: Fanna could closed his career playing two seasons with the

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Speaker 1: ten and rushing and ten of his thirteen seasons, he

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Speaker 1: only drew his four holding calls in two d one

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Speaker 1: weren't It was him Manning and uh punter, Oh Bickler

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Speaker 1: They were the only guys who have been six times

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and Manning hasn't hadn't been eligible yet.

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Speaker 1: I really hope that ten years from now people aren't referenced.

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Speaker 1: for a while. Anybody could have had him for a

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Speaker 1: long stretch and maybe he turned down some offers. Maybe

423
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Speaker 1: he picked and choose where he wanted. But my hunch

424
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Speaker 1: she didn't pick and choose to play right tackle on

425
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Speaker 1: a team that runs of all the time. You know.

426
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we want to go to an organization

427
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Speaker 1: that was highly respectable, like the Ravens or a contender.

428
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: I get that, And I'm not saying the Steelers shouldn't

429
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Speaker 1: be ranked low because those guys haven't proven. Again, but

430
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Speaker 1: you're giving the Ravens the benefit of the doubt here.

431
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Speaker 1: He's kind of talking at the both sides of his

432
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Speaker 1: mouth on this a little bit because the two last

433
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Speaker 1: two sentences that they wrote up were well much new

434
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: changes were made. Well, that's what we want. But then

435
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Speaker 1: that's a buds like, but these guys are unproven, Yeah

436
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: they are, and they would be hard to rank. I

437
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: sent you something from Brandon Thorne, who I think, if

438
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: it's frankly, the best o line analyst in the business

439
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: right now. All he does his line play and he's

440
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Speaker 1: gonna do his defensive line rankings coming up here soon. Uh.

441
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: He works for a couple of different outlets, including his own, uh,

442
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: his own, but established the run is where this was published.

443
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 1: And I've heard him on many podcasts, actually had him

444
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: in mind like a year ago. He's an old line dork.

445
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all he does is old line stuff.

446
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: He has a background in it, and he has his

447
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: own niche in this world. And he had him like

448
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: twenty six or twenty seven. Understand I'm looking at that.

449
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: He has the Ravens, right, I mean there's there're started

450
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley, Ben Cleveland, Bradley Boseman, Kevin Zeitler, Alejandra Villaneueva.

451
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: There's a couple of names there, yes, in Zeitler, in Villaneueva.

452
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: But there are a couple of names there. Those guys

453
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: are both over thirty. And this hadn't really dawned on

454
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Speaker 1: me until we just had this conversation. But if you're

455
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Speaker 1: gonna kill a team for a lot of changes, the

456
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,719
Speaker 1: Ravens have a lot of changes. And all of a sudden,

457
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: people weren't saying, well, Chukes could be better at left

458
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Speaker 1: tackle than he was right tackle. Where was playing in

459
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Speaker 1: that position. It's while Bozeman goes to center, and we're

460
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: not worried anymore, you know, like a position change is

461
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: because they're better at the new one. Probably it's not

462
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Speaker 1: a situation where they're making them do something they don't

463
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Speaker 1: want to do, which they were probably out of position

464
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: before this. And when they can shuffle their line around

465
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Speaker 1: a guy like Choops they want him on the left side,

466
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Speaker 1: or Bozeman they wanted center, but you can't have one

467
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Speaker 1: of them. Is not a positive ones not negative. Yeah,

468
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't get that. I think I think

469
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Speaker 1: he's much more. He's much closer to where I think

470
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Speaker 1: the Ravens probably should be. Right, he's actually the kids

471
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Speaker 1: of Colts at eleven. Everybody says with the Colts have

472
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Speaker 1: one of the best offensive lines in the league. It's

473
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Speaker 1: Sam t he's a real problem. And no Quenton Nelson

474
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Speaker 1: potentially to start to see your left side of your

475
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Speaker 1: lines now a mess, right, I mean, look at the

476
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Speaker 1: Giants old line though, I mean there's some really that's

477
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Speaker 1: a really well, that's who he has ranked last. No,

478
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Speaker 1: he's Miami last and the Bears one. Bears are bad. Yeah,

479
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: I would put the Steelers ahead of all those for sure. Um,

480
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: he has the Texans at twenty nine and the Steelers,

481
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Speaker 1: I mean, I get that. I mean, I just don't

482
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Speaker 1: get you you kill the Steelers for blowing up the

483
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: thirty second rated line last year, and yet that that's

484
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Speaker 1: a negative. The Bravens blow up their line and somehow

485
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: that's well, they'll be fine. Yeah, and it's really even

486
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: a big picture thing is they're terrible running the ball.

487
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: They should have drafted no lineman in the first round.

488
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Speaker 1: That's what the analytics told us. Give me a name,

489
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Speaker 1: four offensive line changes and added a new back and

490
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Speaker 1: a tight end that might be able to block to.

491
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Speaker 1: Like they're addressing the problem. Yeah, maybe don't like how

492
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Speaker 1: they addressed it, that's fine, but don't pretend like they

493
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Speaker 1: didn't address it because they didn't go sign uh Joe

494
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Speaker 1: Tuoney for twenty million bucks or draft a lineman in

495
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Speaker 1: round one who wasn't worthy of the first round pick

496
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Speaker 1: because there wasn't the name. I don't know. I mean,

497
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna see where he has the Chiefs

498
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Speaker 1: on here, because that's another team that completely blew up

499
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Speaker 1: their offensive line. But they went they went the dic

500
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Speaker 1: Well here's the team. Okay, so the uh, the Packers

501
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: actually have three guys starting in spots that they didn't

502
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Speaker 1: start it right, they're moving Elton Jenkins to left tackle.

503
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Speaker 1: Is that a undeal? That's what he has? What has

504
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: he got John running and left guard and then Josh

505
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Speaker 1: Meyers and center? Rookie at Center's replacing one of the

506
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: best centers in the league, you know, right? Um? Yeah,

507
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: their line worries me a little bit. Where does he

508
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: had the chief set on? Here? He's he's the chief,

509
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Speaker 1: He's got the chief. Seventh, he got Orlando Brown left tackles.

510
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Speaker 1: I don't think that experiment is gonna work. But I

511
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be at bottom and left tackle,

512
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: Thuni at left guard, Creed Humphrey at center, Tray Smith

513
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: right guard, Smith, Mike Remmers at right tackle, and they

514
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: have other options. Long is in the mix. Um they

515
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: went crazy. I mean, I know he's super high on

516
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Speaker 1: Tray Smith, who was a fifth or sixth round pick,

517
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Speaker 1: because he has some medical concerns, a lot injury concerns.

518
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: He's some medical concerns, but he's a really masher. But

519
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: they got like eight guys that have started a lot

520
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: of games. You know that he didn't even mention the

521
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: dude that opted out, Tardif or Uh opted out. But

522
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be growing pains yeah, you know, like, if

523
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me the Seiers, I'm growing pains. The

524
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: Chargers have four news starters and he ranks in ninth.

525
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: Now a couple of them are the You had Shawn

526
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Speaker 1: Slater left tackles, but you're making an assumption there that

527
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Speaker 1: he can play left tackle, So I mean a lot

528
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Speaker 1: of people looked at him and said, well, he's probably

529
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Speaker 1: too short. He's going to play garden the NFL. Uh,

530
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Speaker 1: you got Filer at left guard again was one of

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Speaker 1: the guys. It was one of the problems with the

532
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Speaker 1: Steelers last year. Corey Lensley at centers very solid o

533
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Speaker 1: day O Bushi. They like him a lot. He's a

534
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: master right guard, but he wasn't a starter. And also

535
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: the only returning starter for the Chargers is Brian Balaga

536
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Speaker 1: right tackle, which I think is a big reason they

537
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Speaker 1: meant that they signed File. So you put them nine.

538
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: The problem is there's a lot of bad ones. There's

539
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Speaker 1: a lot about That is part of the big the problem.

540
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: And somebody has to be nine, and somebody has to

541
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Speaker 1: be in the top ten when there's really probably five

542
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: good lines. I want to see where's sharp has and

543
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: none of them are Hutchinson and Walter Jones. Where does

544
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: Sharpe have the Chargers at here? Uh? The Charger was

545
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: pretty high because I mean they were thirty two last year. Basically,

546
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: Um in Bloga. It's had a lot of injuries, but

547
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: Filer could go to right tackle for him, he could have. Yeah,

548
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: so I think that's one of the reasons they were

549
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: high on Filers. He's gonna start here and back up

550
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: the other spot. Do you think he's a better guard tackle?

551
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: I like them better right tackles. I like them better tackles. Yeah. Um,

552
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: the Ravens, uh, that's all those changes. Um, looking here

553
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: to see who has master are really high? We have

554
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals looking to see who had massive changes. Well,

555
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: the Vikings have three news starters. You got dry Saw

556
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Speaker 1: at left tackle, who hasn't practiced much in this perisode

557
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: as recruit as were Cleveland at left guard, Garrett Bradbury's center,

558
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: Whyte Davis at right guard, Bryan O'Neil a right tackle,

559
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Speaker 1: and they're very young. He's got them at twenty one. Yeah,

560
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: I kind of get that. I Mean that's a lot

561
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: of unproven but their track record there, their pedigree, guys,

562
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: here's one here that I think people need to look

563
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: at and and and think, Okay, this could be what

564
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: the Steelers. This is storing. This is on Thorne's list.

565
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Speaker 1: The Seahawks at twenty two, who's been one of the

566
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Speaker 1: best running teams in the league the last couple of years. Now,

567
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: certainly the quarterback is part of that, but the Seahawks

568
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: have run the football without a great offensive line. This year,

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Speaker 1: it's it's Dwayne Brownett left tackle. Dwayne brown has been

570
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: one of the better left tackles in the league. But

571
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: he's also getting up in age. Like him and Whitworth

572
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: and a couple of these guys that hang on a

573
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: long time, they're still getting it done. I mean, it's

574
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: a a guyle in smarts and toughness position. But but

575
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Speaker 1: it's Damian Lewis at left guard, Ethan Postic its center,

576
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: Gabe Jackson at right guard, Brandon Shell at right tackle.

577
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: Jackson's I still think a good player, but it's not

578
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Speaker 1: like it's not what he once was. So he's had

579
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: a couple of rough years. Yeah, but twenty two ranked

580
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: offensive line and they run the heck at the football.

581
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, Carson has been very effective. So a

582
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Speaker 1: good running back can help that along for sure. Right

583
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: the Bengals are, he has them in Tier five offensive

584
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Speaker 1: line liabilities. That's where the Steelers are at the is

585
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Speaker 1: M at twenty six UM with the everybody returning UM,

586
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Speaker 1: Joe Williams, Quentin Spain, Trey Hopkins, Jackson Carmen Jackson Carmen

587
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: does not returning he's a rookie. Then Riley reefit right tackle.

588
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean you can make a case that

589
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: would rather the Bengals of the Steelers line. I think

590
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: they're probably on the same TI conference. I mean, there

591
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Speaker 1: there's certain guys you'd rather have. I mean, I certainly

592
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: you'd find a way to Jonah Williams would fit. He

593
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: would quit fit into the equation somewhere. But I don't

594
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: know that any of those other guys are. Like Hopkins

595
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: is an underrated center, but there he's okay. But I

596
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: think Green might be better. I don't think I trade

597
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: him straight up from Green. No, I know about Green

598
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: right now. So, I mean a lot of teams are

599
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: hurting on the offensive line. I mean, there's just no

600
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 1: way around it. That's just where the league is right now.

601
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: But I don't think that, boy, this line is going

602
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: to cripple the offense. I think it will be a

603
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: better line than last year, particularly particularly running the football.

604
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: And I think they're going to come off the football

605
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: and run the ball. Well, yeah, I know they're gonna

606
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: be a better running team than last year. It could

607
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: be a better run blocking line than last year. I

608
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: leaned towards, jess, is it gonna be a better line

609
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: than last year? I lean towards yes. I mean I don't.

610
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're past blocking metrics because you know,

611
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: obviously there were some some good stuff that they did

612
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, not allowing sacks and those

613
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: kind of things. They'll probably allow more sacks. They'll probably

614
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: allow more sacks. But I think there'll be a much

615
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: better run blocking unit, and that's the priority. Obviously. I'm

616
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: less worried about the line than because Roethlisberger can still

617
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: get rid of football very quickly. We will remarkable. But

618
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Speaker 1: if you're running the football effectively, that can work. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree, And I think their skill guys were quite good.

620
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I trust the Steelers to

621
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: no end, especially Kevin Colberg his staff. He seems to

622
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: like this group. Yeah, you know what I mean? Zack Banner.

623
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Speaker 1: They liked they gave him money and they like him. Yeah,

624
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: they gave him money two years of early right, right,

625
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson.

626
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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. We are live from Canton, Ohio. I

627
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Speaker 1: just thought that was interesting news about Kevin Dotson working

628
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: today with the Starters. Yeah, very interesting and indeed, Um,

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Speaker 1: but we are live here from Canton, Ohio where later

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Speaker 1: on this evening, well they'll have the Hall of Fame inductions.

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Speaker 1: Allen Fannica will be going into the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. We'll hear his speech. Um, I was wrong

633
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Speaker 1: earlier when I said it was Tom Bradley and Tom

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Speaker 1: Offerman is actually West Euler and Tom off Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: while you can stay here to listen to those two

636
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Speaker 1: right after our show, but we're gonna take a break.

637
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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this. Welcome back.

638
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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Alli here with Matt Williams when we were

639
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: live in Canton, Ohio. Here at the NFL Pro Football

640
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: the Profiles. They also have the Black College Hall of

641
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: Fame here as well. But lots of news and notes

642
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: from around the league today. Um, the Dolphins have reworked

643
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: Xavian Howard's deal after his trade demand, and it looks

644
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: like he is now happy and they even new money there. Yeah,

645
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: which I guess he just gave him new money last year.

646
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: I think it was two years ago, two years ago

647
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: because they signed Byron Jones the year after that, which

648
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: I think was what stuck in his crowd a little

649
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Speaker 1: bit little bit. I'm a lot better than Jones. I'm

650
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: the one the followers around that I'm one receiver. Um,

651
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: I guess I can understand that. I think him and

652
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones were kind of a similar situation. Well, Jane

653
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: Jones said, I don't missed all last year, but I

654
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: don't think either. It's gonna be really hit the market

655
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: like people think, you know, they're too important to their teams.

656
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: At least it's gonna end this silly Steelership trade for

657
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: Xavian Howard talk. I mean, that wouldn't have been cheap

658
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: and you'd have to give a contract like this. I mean,

659
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: he's probably one of the highest paid corners in the

660
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: league right now, and he already was two years ago.

661
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: To your point, rugod player, Um, I don't think he's

662
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: a special player, but he's a really good player man

663
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: coverage guy. Uh. The Colts gave Darius Leonard a five year,

664
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Speaker 1: ninety eight and a half million dollar contract extension and

665
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: now makes him the top paid inside linebacker in football.

666
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: This just a couple of weeks after Fred warnersun an

667
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: extension that made him the highest paid guy. And I

668
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: get both cases. You know whoever second is probably gonna

669
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: get just a little bit more. Kind of foolish. Um,

670
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: they're both about the same age, modern day, smaller, fast,

671
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: highly instrumental to their defense type linebackers. Um, you hope

672
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: Bush gets to this level someday in terms of his production,

673
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: and Warn't such a deal. But these guys aren't gonna

674
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: be cheap. No, they aren't. And this is one of

675
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: the reasons why I brought up on Twitter today the

676
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: whole tackle situation. Like the first thing you see about

677
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Leonard and I'm I'm looking here. In the ESPN dot

678
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: com story, Leonard had a hundred and thirty two tackles

679
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: and three sacks and three forced fumbles and two fumbel

680
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: recoveries while helping the Colts return to the playoffs last year. Um.

681
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: He was defensive rookie in the year in two thousand

682
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: and eight team when he quote unquote led the league

683
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: led the NFL with a hundred sixty three tackles. I

684
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care about how many tackles you

685
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: had because it's not a stat it's not an official statistic.

686
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: I think the Colts are actually one of those teams

687
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: that's well known for inflating them. Little big, but yeah,

688
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: he was close to the pole. Give him the tackle.

689
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: He's super important to those guys. He's a good player.

690
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from but I don't want

691
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: to hear about his his tackle top That doesn't That

692
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me. This one, though, is interesting. Um

693
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield said that that Josh Allen's mega deal is

694
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: a win for all NFL quarterbacks because now you have class.

695
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: He got a six year, two D and fifty eight

696
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: million dollar contract extension, UM and he said it's good,

697
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: good for the quarterback position overall. I'd be lying if

698
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: I said otherwise. Yes, I mean it certainly is. I

699
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: don't know that he's on that same tier. I mean,

700
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. To me, of all the quarterbacks in the

701
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Speaker 1: league not named Mahomes, he might be the one i'd

702
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: invest in you know, he'd be in the conversation for

703
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: the guy. Here's the funny thing about it, though, you know,

704
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: if you if you think back to a year ago,

705
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: nobody was talking about Josh Allen um. And I still

706
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: hear people saying, well, I want to see him prove

707
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: it again before I give him the money. But yet

708
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: we're we're willing to look at like Justin Herbert and say, oh,

709
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: well he's gonna you know, he's he should be the guy. Yeah,

710
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: it's a done deal. He's gonna be a superstar. There's

711
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: definitely a lot of cart before the horses with quarterbacks,

712
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: and you know, we we sometimes referenced Mike Sander's quarterback tears.

713
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: Allen was the first two because a lot of people like,

714
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: let me see one more year. And frankly, I mean,

715
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: it's remarkable that every year of his career's completion percentage

716
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: has gone up each one or big steps, you know,

717
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: and so I doubt that happens again. And frankly it

718
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: might even go back there again, right, I mean, will

719
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: he be able to maintain that? I mean, even if

720
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Speaker 1: he goes back a little, he's still a special, special

721
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: player and so important for what they do. I mean,

722
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: there's no ways around it. I mean, that's exactly what

723
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: they need to invest in. But boy, it's a big

724
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: buck and I love him. I mean I have been

725
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: blown away with him. I was wrong. I I he

726
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: wasn't high on my list coming out of school. I

727
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: thought he was a liability after his first year. But

728
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: I would be giving him that kind of money. I

729
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: don't know what, Baker, That's gonna be the question. And

730
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: I saw something today where the Browns I think Jeremy

731
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: Fowler tweeted this out that they're now talking extension with

732
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward. I did hear that. That just came around too,

733
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: and they did job, He's not going to be cheap.

734
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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, now what do you

735
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: like again? We talked about this last week on our show. Um,

736
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: they've got some guys. When you start looking at that

737
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: that cap situation next year, they're up against it right now.

738
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: They've got a lot in that ten million range, a

739
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: lot and they're office where all of a sudden, now

740
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: maybe you have to say goodbye to Jarvis, Landry, Odell Beckham,

741
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: certainly Hooper and Dockway, and you know a lot of

742
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: these type of guys. So you look at their you

743
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: know their window is closing fast. It's it's not I mean,

744
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: do you trust that organization that to navigate through this

745
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: part of it? They come out well. On the other side,

746
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: the buying window is closed. Yes, I mean there's no

747
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: more clown Ease and Conklin's and Hoopers. I mean these

748
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: guys that they've added the last two years, throwing four

749
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: million dollars at uh uh yeah. I mean the two

750
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: defensive backs they got from the Rams. I mean those

751
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: guys are expensive. Those days are done now it the

752
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: Steeler problem, the Newsom's and the j o Ks and

753
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: the recent draft picks. They got a hit, now you

754
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: got and then you get assign them to long term conscience. Yeah,

755
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: or at least get four or five good years out

756
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: of the right, you know, your picks while you've developed

757
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: a star or two. Baker is the one, though the

758
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: worries be like, I get it. I think he's a

759
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: very good quarterback at best, you know, and if you

760
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: start he was another one where the cart got put

761
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: before the horse. After his rookie year, like there were

762
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: people talking about him being the next big thing. And

763
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: even now, I mean you see him again in all

764
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: the commercials, and you know, he's done a thousand things

765
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: like shouldn't you do something first before you before your

766
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: plastered all over the TV, and part of it is

767
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: the first overall pick. And he is a charismatic guy,

768
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: and that team's hot right now, I get it, and

769
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: I like him. I mean, I think he's a really

770
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: good player, but he's not as talented as Alan, he

771
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: doesn't as highest feeling as Lamar. The other part of

772
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: the equation is that teams that have success, even a

773
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: modicum of success, now all of a sudden, your your

774
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: players become commodities when they hit the open market, right,

775
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: not only that they want more money. Well, hey, I'm

776
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: helping you win. This isn't like you know when they

777
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: were going over in sixteen and like, okay, we go

778
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: in sixteen with anybody you know, and so you then

779
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: cut your Hayden and you know, do make do make

780
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: moves like that. Well, now you've got guys who should

781
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: they become free agents. Teams are gonna want. You're not

782
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 1: going to get them for you know, pennies on the dollar.

783
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna have to pay some money for

784
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: these guys. And you've got to decide who to keep

785
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: and who to let go, and that becomes part of

786
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: the issue. And I think a really difficult thing in

787
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: the league right now is when you have a good

788
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 1: quarterback that you can win with, and that's Mayfield Golf.

789
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: Was that guy just a year or two ago, you

790
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: know that boy. I'm scared of what to do without

791
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: him if I decide that I'm not going to give

792
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: them his demands, and I know I'm kind over paying.

793
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of Mayfield jerseys in the stands.

794
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: And my owner says, signed Baker, even though I'm not

795
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: sure he's the face of the franchise. You know, a

796
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: lot of stuff comes out the owner absolutely, Hey, we're

797
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: winning games with Baker. You're there's no way you're getting ready. Yeah,

798
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, even though you're like, if I give a

799
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: guy thirty five million, I know I'm going to regret it.

800
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: It might be more than thirty five for him, right,

801
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: It might be, And you might be looking at I mean,

802
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: you're looking at forty five from Mahomes, forty three for

803
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: for Alan. First of all, Lamar Jackson is gonna want

804
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: somewhere in that range. In Baltimore, he was an m

805
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: as an m v P Award, just like Mahomes. I'm

806
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: not a big quarterback win stat guy, but Lamar's win

807
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: percentage as a starter is remarkable. It's like the best

808
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: in the league. Um, And then you start looking at

809
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: the like, Okay, so let's say Mayfield comes in asking

810
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: for Let's say, yeah, Let's say the Ravens go ahead

811
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: and they give Jackson forty three million dollars. Let's say

812
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: it's the same as that same similar to contract to

813
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: Allen's and then okay, so now the Browns have to

814
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: sign Mayfield and he's gonna say I want forty want

815
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: five years, a two million dollars and the owners will

816
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: be like, well, we can't let go of that guy.

817
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's what you're look, that's quarterback money now,

818
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: and I know the cap will go up and that

819
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: won't look as bad two years from now. And there's

820
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: all those things. I just keep thinking, if you're a

821
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: Steeler fan, which probably listeners are, I think you want

822
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: them to sign Baker to actually not a bad time

823
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: to be in the quarterback market, in a young quarterback market, No, right, right,

824
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: because that that price tag is huge. The cap is

825
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: going to continue to go up. You're gonna have that

826
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: money to spend on a T. J. Watt or you know,

827
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: someone of that nature. And what used to be, as

828
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: I said yesterday, what used to be quarterback money twenty

829
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year. That's that's that's now Andy

830
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: Dalton quarterback money. Yeah, it's it's inflated very fast. Even

831
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: though the cap did what it did his last two years.

832
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: It's interesting, um uh some of it. I think it's

833
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: just you just pay them. And in the Seer's this

834
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: situation with Ben for many times, it's just that's the

835
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: going rate. That's what you pay people. People went nuts

836
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: over the well Ben's and forty one and a half

837
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: million dollar cap pit this year. Well, the salary wasn't

838
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: forty one and a half million dollars. That's what the

839
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: cap hit was because they kept yeah, they kept every

840
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, uh moving money around in his contract. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's relative bargain this year at twenty five point nine million, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Eagles are paying to not play for them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: rams are playing golf a bunch to he goes back

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Speaker 1: to the to the line and uh uh moneyball where

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Speaker 1: David Justice is in the cage and he's talking to

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Speaker 1: Billy Bean, and Billy you're paying He's what makes you special, David. Billy,

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Speaker 1: you're paying me six million dollars this year to be

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Speaker 1: specially gives up. You're wrong, David. I ain't paying your

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Speaker 1: six million dollars. The Yankees are paying three of that

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Speaker 1: for you not to play. I'm not to be on

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Speaker 1: their team, right right. I mean that's a golf thing.

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Speaker 1: Will give you picks to get him out of here? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, so we got Stafford. Yeah yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm not predicting that for Mayfield, but it could get

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Speaker 1: to that point. They're paying everybody else, so and it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like they're expecting the quarterback to just come

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Speaker 1: along here and say, look, you're we're bringing, we're keeping

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Speaker 1: these guys. Now you gotta take a lesser deal. I

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Speaker 1: don't know he's gonna do that, And I imagine he'll

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Speaker 1: get signed to this offseason, you know, just like Alan,

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Speaker 1: just like lamar Um. We saw the Warner to Leonard.

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Speaker 1: You know, once how one happens, it's really easy to

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Speaker 1: sign the next guy. All the Mayfield's not like the

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Speaker 1: other two. To me. But again, I'm not predicting Cleveland

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Speaker 1: though he might be that's them. He might to them,

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Speaker 1: he might be that that ownership that has uh Jersey's

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Speaker 1: walking around with twenty names of quarterbacks on the back.

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Speaker 1: And we don't have to do that crap anymore. You know, Finally,

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Speaker 1: Bend's not the winning this guy in our building. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a little year, right, right, Uh So it's worth

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Speaker 1: it two different organizations. But I don't think you have

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Speaker 1: to paint a crazy picture. When O'Dell, Landry, Batonio, Hooper

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Speaker 1: Chubb starting to get old, it's re and they're going, wow,

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Speaker 1: are we gonna trade Baker and a second round pick

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Speaker 1: to the Texans for bag of football to get them

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Speaker 1: out of here? Well from J. C. Treader or some

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Speaker 1: of these guys, right, because the cast isn't going to

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Speaker 1: be as good and now it's time for Baker to

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Speaker 1: take over, and Miles Garrett's big money is kicking in

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Speaker 1: has gotten older, and you know, it's just it's a

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Speaker 1: hard thing. It's a hard line to walk. That's why again,

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Speaker 1: the Steeler's salary structure is always very That's why they're

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Speaker 1: contenders year after year, and it's really really hard to do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even with a good quarterback. Yeah, absolutely, but

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Speaker 1: interesting the Baker's real mean's not a bend level quarterback,

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Speaker 1: bed level quarterback. Now, I don't think you'll ever be that.

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Speaker 1: You'll ever be that. It depends on the top five

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Speaker 1: guy for a long time. Yeah, I agree, but it

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Speaker 1: should be interesting. Yeah, certainly something to keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on here. But what's the captain? Looks like it too.

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Speaker 1: It might be a massive It don't even matters. It's

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Speaker 1: monopoly money. I don't know, um, but we are alive

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Speaker 1: from the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lali. You're listening to a special edition of

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Speaker 1: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be back with our three. We're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: from the Steelers Hall of famers who went into the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and we're inducted last than I should say,

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from all three of them in the final

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Speaker 1: hour here right after this