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We need to have 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: new customers in the stores. It to have you. I'm 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: not gonna blab that much because this is an interview 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: conversation podcast. We'd like to bring in friends to hang 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: out and chat. And we're joined by a man, David Gascon, 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: who's gonna be on with me here on the podcast. 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: Gascon and I'm excited about this one because someone we 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: wanted to get on, and finally we pulled the string 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: on this and made it happen. We're gonna chat with 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: the voice of the Los Angeles Dodgers, Charlie Steiner is 44 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: gonna hang out with us. And I've known Charlie casually 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: for you know, a number of years now, and I'll 46 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: see him, let go to these Dodger games hanging out, 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: schmoozing in the press box or whatnot. And I've actually 48 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: known Charlie before he was the voice of the Dodgers. 49 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: He's been the play by play guy for the Dodgers 50 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: for the last I think seventeen seasons. I believe. I 51 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: think he's heading into his seventeen or eighteen season now 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: as the voice of the Dodgers. He's a national radio 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Charlie Stunner. Many people know him more 54 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: as the Sports Center anchor, depending on how old you are, 55 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: right from back in the day Gas It was a 56 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: legend in the in the heyday of ESPN when that 57 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: was the place, the mecca of sports television before everything 58 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: got watered down in sports media and also all boxing guy. 59 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: Charlie covered synonymous with boxing for so many years and 60 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: all the big fights Charlie Stunner was reporting on and 61 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: covering and whatnot, and so excited to have him in here, 62 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: just thinking about him. I don't know if you were 63 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: like this when you were younger, but I felt like 64 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: Sports Center when I was a kid was appointment TV. 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: It was like finding him, finding you know, all these 66 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: guys that were on there. I mean, Linda Cohnes, she 67 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: did a lot of you know, stuff with hockey. But 68 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: it's still as Keith Olberman, Um Dan Patrick, Tom Lee 69 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: or was the Tommys was on there? Tommy's yes, Bobby. 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: There's just guys were on there from start, Chris Berman 71 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: obviously and Tom Jackson. You know those guys are synonymous 72 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: with the NFL. But yeah, Sports Centre back in the day, 73 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: that was like our our playground, you know as kids. Yeah, 74 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, the stone age because you're 75 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: doing it back in the day. Story you're old, guest, gun, 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: you're proven you're old here. But yeah, I mean we 77 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: were consuming sports. You Jonesing as a kid, you were like, 78 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: oh my god. I mean my experience. Not to go 79 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: too long with it because I want to bring Charlie 80 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: in here. But my experience with sports consumption, like I 81 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: had to watch this weekend Baseball to get baseball highlights. 82 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: I remember getting the red in the Green book that 83 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: they would give out before the season for the National 84 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: and the American League. The American League was read, the 85 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: National League was green. They gave these books that that's 86 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: how you got the stats. There was the the Internet 87 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: as it is today did not did not exist, and 88 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: so but sports Center that was like you got everything 89 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: in an hour Sports Center. You get every highlight, every 90 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: big story. And it was so important to watch that. 91 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: Being on the West coast we had it. But I 92 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: think the first Sports Center was at four o'clock. I 93 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: think our l a time, California time, and that was big. 94 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: And then they'd have the the late Sports Center after 95 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: the games were over. So and Charlie was such a 96 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: big part of that. So anyway, excited to have him on. 97 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: Let's give it up now, the voice of the Dodgers. 98 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: He got the call a final out of the World Series. 99 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: We gotta bring that up. We'll get to that, uh, 100 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: Charlie Steiner, And why don't we start with this, Charlie, 101 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: you've been calling games from your house over the last uh, 102 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: the last baseball season. What is the experience been like 103 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: for you? Uh? And and how different obviously that has 104 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: been for everybody, but for you, as a play by 105 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: play guy in Major League Baseball, you're sitting in your 106 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: home calling games. Tell me what that's been like. Well, 107 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: go back to last July when we were all trying 108 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: to figure out what the season was gonna look like, 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: and we had a zoom call. And you're not a 110 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: human being unless you've had at least one uh with 111 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: the entire broadcast group in our bosses. Um. And it 112 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: was that was three or four days before the first 113 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: exhibition game. And upon the completion of the zoom call, 114 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: I got a call from one of said bosses and 115 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: he said he didn't look happy. I said, well, I 116 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: don't know about happy, but I certainly am apprehensive. And 117 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: you know I am of that age. Uh. I am 118 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: diabetic in these days, who isn't um. So I talked 119 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: to my doctor and I said, so what do you think? 120 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: And he said, as as a fan, I love that 121 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: view and bow back because this is what I what 122 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: and who I listened to every summer as a friend. 123 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. And as as your doctor, are 124 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: you out of your mind? Um? And so it was like, well, 125 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: that was a slapped in the face of reality. Um. 126 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: The next thing, I had spoken to BOW and I 127 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: wasn't quite sure. Of course, we're going to do the 128 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: games out of Dodger Stadium, even on the road, the 129 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: sixty games all from there, and my doctor suggested, you know, 130 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: you probably shouldn't. Just don't. Uh. And I called the 131 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: next day and I said, I'm feeling really anxious about it, 132 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: and and if it comes to I'm just gonna have 133 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: to opt out this year. Um. And that was pretty 134 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: much the end of the conversation. I'm thinking, well, geez, 135 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: that's probably the end of my career. And I got 136 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: knocked out by COVID. Next day. They just come back 137 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: and said, well, what if you did it from home? Well, um, yes, 138 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't think it was technically or humanly 139 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: possible to be able to do it, and we did it. 140 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: They added two large monitors in what used to be 141 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: my living room. It became the media room, and thankfully 142 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: this year it has returned to being the living room 143 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: as I ended up doing the games from home. Um, 144 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: and MO was at at Dodger Stadium. Along with Dwayne McDonald, 145 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: our producer and engineer, And it took maybe four or 146 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: five days, three of them being exhibition games, UM, to 147 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: get it more technically and sentive. You know, MO and 148 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: I when we're calling a game, we're not looking at 149 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: each other. We're both looking at the field and now 150 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: our seventeen here, and we can fill each other's sentences. 151 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: And so that was never going to be an issue. 152 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: And slowly but surely it seemed to work. UM. And 153 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: then fast forward to you know, the playoffs in the 154 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: World Series. I finally got a chance to watch the 155 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: World Series film, I guess in January. There was no hurry. 156 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: I knew the outcome. But most importantly, I watched the 157 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: highlight film from the very chair that I announced the 158 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: World Series, on the very screen that I watched it. 159 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: And as I watched and listened to the highlight film, 160 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: I could have sworn I was in Texas. So technically 161 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: it worked. And I think what's gonna happen down the 162 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: road in our industry in general and some teams in particular. 163 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure that announcers are necessarily gonna go 164 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: on the road for every game. So I think it was. 165 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: It was weird. I understood the weirdness of it last 166 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: year and still even this year. We have a giant 167 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: asterisk about how we are living and conducting our lives. 168 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: And that was just kind of part of the drill. 169 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: And I'll finish up this endless answer with this. The 170 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: very first game I ever call it was a Brooklyn 171 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: Dodger game in my basement in my home on Long 172 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: Island when I was fought. And the most recent Dodger 173 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: game that I broadcast was from my living room at 174 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: my home and they won the World Series and people 175 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: actually heard it. So talk about what goes around comes Yeah, 176 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: the circle of the circle of life. I think we 177 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: we all did that the same thing. I was like you, 178 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm doing play by playing my home and 179 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: you know you're the final out of the World Series, 180 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: and you called I want to bring that up, Charlie, 181 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: because on the Dodgers flagship a M five seventy, the 182 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: Dodger Network, there finally, after all these years, the long 183 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: suffering Dodger fans got to hear a radio call of 184 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: their team winning the World Series. And you had a 185 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: great call. Uh, And finally the weight is over. Tears 186 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: of joy let them flow. I mean I remember a 187 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: lot of it. And you mentioned eight eight as well. Uh, 188 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: you've You've had a lot of big moments. How concerned, 189 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: how nervous were you did not screw up in that spot? 190 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you nailed it, but how concerned were you? 191 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: Because you you can anticipate the Dodges were likely gonna 192 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: win because of the lead they had at the time 193 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: late in the game. But what was the what was 194 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: going through your mind as it was getting closer to 195 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: your You're gonna have to make that call at the 196 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: end of the World Series. That morning I called then, 197 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: who with whom we still have a wonderful friendship. He 198 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: has been a mentor, a father like that, You're again 199 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: the Babe Ruth of our business. So I called him 200 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: that morning. I said, so, I got this if they 201 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: win to night, had this great idea and he said, 202 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: oh yeah, what's that? I said, I have had a 203 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: line like in a year that's been so improbable. Uh 204 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: and he said, I believe it's taken um and so, 205 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: and I said, so, you know, it was one of 206 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: those you just go you go to the Grand puba 207 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: for just not advice. We just talked, and it was 208 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: not talking off the ledge. It was just going in 209 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: before a big game and talking to a former player 210 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: in this case. So what I've been thinking about, and 211 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: one of the things you really don't want to do 212 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: is uh prepare and write out a script any of 213 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: that stuff. You just let it, let it rip from 214 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: your head and your heart and your eyes. And the 215 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: word that kept going through my head all day was 216 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: joy and how much joy this would bring and how 217 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: little joy any of us had experienced that year. And 218 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: it just all came together. Um And I was. I was, 219 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: And you're right, there is that nagging fear, old lord, 220 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: please don't fuck it up. Um and and and I 221 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: remember when I had the Aaron Boone call in two 222 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: thousand and three, when he hit the game winner and 223 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: the Yankees walked off against the Red Sox would go 224 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: to the World Series. Remembers the circling the basis and 225 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: I had made the call in the back of my 226 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: head because it happened so quickly, I said, please, you know, 227 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: finished the call cleanly. Um And I did with that, 228 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: and I guess I did with this too. But you know, again, 229 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: the story was obviously the Dodgers had won and finally 230 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: there was something for all of us to be happy about. Yeah, 231 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: it was. It was a great call. And you mentioned 232 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: you did the Yankee games for for a few years 233 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: back in the day. What's the biggest difference? And these 234 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: are the two biggest markets in the country and you 235 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: know you're on the on the radio doing Yankee games, 236 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: you're doing Dodging games. You've been doing Dodging games for 237 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: in almost twenty years now, But what's the what's the 238 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: big difference between a Yankee broadcast and a Dodger broadcast 239 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: or is it all the same? You know, at the 240 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: end of the day, without sounding high falute, the game 241 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: is still a game. The moment is still a moment. 242 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: And when you go and do what it is we do, 243 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: all you can do is the best that you can. Um. 244 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: You know, in New York, I was working with John 245 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,239 Speaker 1: Sterling and it was really to play by play announcers 246 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: and sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. But at 247 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: the end of the day we had a pretty good 248 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: broadcast and that was that. And then when we came 249 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: out here to work with mo and this is you're right, 250 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be my seventeenth year now, Um, are our 251 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: roles were more clearly defined, and that I think makes 252 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: for a cleaner broadcast. And and we're very lucky Mo 253 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: and I we become friends, were family, um. And we're 254 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: talking about it right after the that night, at the 255 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: end of the postgame coverage. UM. Because of the year 256 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: that was, you know, so improbable. There's Moe at Dodger 257 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: Stadium and I'm at home, and Dwayne is at Dodger Stadium. 258 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: We didn't see one of them yet we are. Our bond, 259 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: which was always strong, grew stronger because we persevered all 260 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: this craziness together and it was it was a me. 261 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: It became a lot more meaningful than even just winning 262 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: a World Series that we've managed to persevere like everybody else, 263 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: like every Dodger, like every Dodger fan. Somehow we got 264 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: through it. And uh and one, yeah, it was. It 265 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: was great to listen to you. And I couldn't tell 266 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: I did. I thought at one point I thought you 267 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: were actually in Texas. It sounded it did sound like 268 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: you were. You were there where the World Series was 269 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: going on. But I here's the thing. I want to 270 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: tell a story, Charlie. And you probably don't know this 271 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: story because it's not important to you at all, but 272 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: it's important to me. So when I first met you, 273 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: you were doing Sunday Night Baseball for ESPN Radio with 274 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: Kevin Kennedy. This isn't like the late nineties. And I 275 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: actually did stats for you. I don't know, you probably 276 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: don't remember that, but I did stats for you a 277 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: few times. And my shining moment, Charlie was a Giant 278 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: Dodger game on a Sunday night and Ellis Burks was playing. 279 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: I think he came up from the Rockies that year, 280 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: was playing for the Giants, and uh and uh this 281 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: was like the Bonds Kent Giants and it was in fact, 282 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: and Brian and I worked together. Yes, there you go. 283 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: So Brian Bohannan was he had the Dodgers picked him up. 284 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: He was the picture. So I found some stat about 285 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: al Ellis Burks had this great career, you know, a 286 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: bunch of home runs against Brian Bohannon. So I handed 287 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: you this like note, right, I gave you this note 288 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: and uh, the like the next pitch after you had 289 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: gave the stat, Ellis Burks hit a home run into 290 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: the pavilion at Dodger Stadium. That was a long time ago, 291 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: But I bring that up because it makes me feel 292 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: good because I remember it. And how have stats changed? 293 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: Because there's so many more stats now, Charlie, And you're 294 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: the play by play guy, And I think a lot 295 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: of baseball on the radio is more telling stories. But 296 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: there's a statue of everything these days. So how do 297 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: you handle that? Ben? You're absolutely right, Um, on radio 298 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: it's a much more of a storyteller's medium. If you know, 299 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: when you start talking about war and VID and this 300 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: and that, if you see it on your screen, okay, 301 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: you kind of get it. And even then you need 302 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: some interpreters, say what does this actually mean? Except some 303 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: numbers on the radio, If you start running off numbers 304 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: like this plus three minus too somebody stuck in traffic, 305 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: it's just gonna go either over their heads or through 306 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: the ears from one side to the other. So for 307 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: me and from MOB and again, we're we're older, We 308 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: are less is in terms of broadcasters statistically driven than 309 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: younger broadcasters. We still stick with the stories. Um. At 310 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: the end of the day, And again, I'm proudly an 311 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: old school baseball guy. Give me the back of a 312 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: baseball card. 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I 357 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: can't feel sexy in my own skin. And that's those 358 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: are the things that I want to break because there 359 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: are so many women like me and I want to 360 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: be and represent us. You know, obviously there's always room 361 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: for improvement. I always want to look better, I want 362 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: to work out, I want to lose weight, But in reality, 363 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: this is the body God gave me, and I've never 364 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: really been skinny. Listen to the Michael Duda podcast Network, 365 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: available on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or 366 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts. Be sure to catch live 367 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: editions of the Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am 368 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Fox Sports Radio has the best 369 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 370 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the 371 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app. Search f s R to listen live. 372 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: And Charlie speaking of those stories and the history that 373 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: you have for the game of baseball, what about when 374 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: you're at the ballpark. I don't know if Ben wants 375 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: me to bring this up, and I'll do it anyway? 376 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: He hit outcasted me a few years ago to go 377 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: to Bakersfield to call minor league baseball, and uh I 378 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: did so, but con took some of his advice about 379 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: journaling everything that you do. It's about that story, right, Um, 380 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: So it's fascinating to learn about these guys that are 381 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: minor leaguer is trying to get to the show. But 382 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: when you're in the show, what about the interaction that 383 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: you have with these players prior to first pitch, when 384 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: they're stretching, throwing, limbering up. Did you miss that has 385 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: changed dramatically over the years. It is and again now 386 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear some cranky old guys breaming, get off 387 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: my law and you're running. But the reality is the 388 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: interaction between writers and broadcasters and players is so significantly 389 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: different that it was certainly when I first started out 390 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: and and and the years before I got into it. 391 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: That was in a day when you went back to 392 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: the hotel after a game and you'd have a beer 393 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: with a player who is relatively speaking of contemporary where 394 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: the dollar disparity between players and those who cover them 395 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: was not so vast, in a day when now players 396 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: and their agents can control whatever it is they want 397 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: to say or not say through their own social media accounts. 398 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: So all of that has fundamentally changed, um and and 399 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: and for us old guys, that's sad because part of 400 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: what it was that drew us to calling games was 401 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: to be able to paint the picture and get inside 402 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: the heads of these guys, which doesn't frankly exist very 403 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: much anymore now because of the pandemic and zoom calls 404 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: and all of that. You don't see or hear um 405 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: no matter the newspaper or the radio station or the 406 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: network anything different. There all saying the same thing based 407 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: on the limited availability that they have to the players. 408 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: So there, it's fundamentally different. And so what what I'm 409 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: trying to do, And as this technology evolved and how 410 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: the game has changed, it has tried to reflect on 411 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: players or instances that are similar to what these players 412 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: are given players in this given play might have been. 413 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: So it is different, and I'm not entirely sure it's 414 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: going to go back to what it once was because 415 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: of the differences now in time. Then have you ever 416 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: had or even recently, have you had one of those 417 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: David Price, Dennis Eckersley. I guess, uh, you know, and 418 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: if I have, I don't care. You know, the player 419 00:24:53,240 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: might you know, I can't. That's where it is fundamentally different. Um, 420 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: when players tell you they don't watch, or they don't read, 421 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: or they don't listen, they are so full of it. Um, 422 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: they just are. They know exactly what's been said and 423 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: what I think. We all have to understand what you're doing, 424 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: then what I'm doing, what players are doing. We all 425 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: live in this ecosystem. The players play and we talk 426 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: about it. Um may make an error and we have 427 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: to mention it. Um. That's not to say we're not 428 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: going to make a mistake or we're gonna blow a call. 429 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: But we're all in this giant ecosystem. And the more 430 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: we all, all of us understand it, the better it 431 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: is ultimately for the customer, and that's the fan who 432 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: wants to learn as much as they can about the game, 433 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: about a moment, about a player. But again, that's where 434 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: it has fundamentally changed over the years, and and there's 435 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: a greater distance between media and players, and I think 436 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: that I've ever experienced, and I've been doing this a 437 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: long time now. Well with the reduction and travel that 438 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: that's added some time onto the time stamp for you. 439 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: Do you have an end date at all, Charlie, or 440 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: do you feel like you're well? You know, again, the 441 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: doggers have been so unspeakably good to me. The fact 442 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: that I am not traveling much anymore. Um, you know, 443 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: I've been lucky enough in many ways to walk in 444 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: the same path that then did, and then was the 445 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: first one to start cutting back on schedule and travel 446 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: and the road you do it a lot. It beat 447 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: you up, and at some point I just said, okay, 448 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: I this is this is now not as much fun 449 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: as it used to be. And as I say that, 450 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: you don't have that much of a relationship anymore between players, 451 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: whether it's a you know, a local bar and whatever 452 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: it is now. Of course, with the pandemic, nobody's going 453 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: anywhere anyway, So it's still fun to call a game, 454 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: only the discipline has changed because the circumstances around us 455 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: have changed. What's your favorite sporting event to call? Oh, 456 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: I guess the seventh game of the World Series. No, 457 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, like take all that aside, Like 458 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: a championship is one thing, but I mean, like, if 459 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: it's just a regular game or just a regular boxing match, Like, 460 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: what is your favorite event. I've been so lucky. I 461 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: covered boxing in theirs last Golden Era. It began with 462 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: Ali and ended with Tyson biting Holy Fields here, and 463 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: pretty much every big fight in between. The night of 464 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: a heavyweight championship, when you know there tens of thousands 465 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: at the arena, millions watching around the world, the loneliness 466 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: of the two fighters coming down from their respective locker rooms, 467 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: in their in their satin robes, crowd going crazy. There's 468 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: nothing quite like the adrenaline of that. And one of 469 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: the reasons why I decided to get away from boxing 470 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: it was because that wasn't existing much anymore either, So 471 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: one of those, or the anticipation of a championship game, 472 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: I did a bunch of rose bowls, and look, I've 473 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: had a very gumpy and experience. I've been really lucky. 474 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: I've covered a lot of big stuff. But you know, 475 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: as crazy as it was, calling the World Series from 476 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: my living room had the same adrenaline rush for me 477 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: that night as uh covering any of those championship fights. Charlie, 478 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: it's time to get out the crystal ball. You've mentioned 479 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: that you don't think things are going to go back 480 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: to the way they were. Uh, let me let me 481 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: quiz you here. Now, what is it? What does that mean? 482 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: The locker room access? Do you do you believe that 483 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: we will get back to non zoom calls once we 484 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: move on from the pandemic? Or are they are they 485 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: just gonna limit access to the locker room in general 486 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: and just have the way it is right now be 487 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: the new normal. The answer is I'm not sure, but 488 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: I am reasonably sure that players are very happy not 489 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: to have media in their workspace. I think they've always 490 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: treated it, even in less antagonistic days between media and players, 491 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: as their workspace. It's their office, and they don't like 492 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: people coming into their office. Um And I get that. Um, 493 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 1: So will it at some point return to what it was? 494 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, Ben, you're down there before games. How 495 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: many guys are actually in the club house when you 496 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: go looking for We're not room there, in the quiet room, there, 497 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: in the trainers room. It's not like, oh, hey, here's 498 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: been let's go talk. Yeah. No, exactly mean And that's 499 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: the big too, each because especially with these new locker rooms, 500 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: so I guess they're not new anymore. They're all old 501 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: lock But remember the old days, they didn't have as 502 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: many hiding places, so the guys had to stay. A 503 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: lot of them had to stay in their lockers because 504 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: there was there weren't a lot of places to go. 505 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: But now and they and they rather enjoyed it. I 506 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 1: must tell you again, going back to the years when 507 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: I would be in a clubhouse with an old tape 508 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: recorder over my shoulder and a little hand mike and 509 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: all of that, there was a greater understanding of that 510 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: ecosystem I was talking about earlier, where okay, this is 511 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: part of the drill, and so after a game you 512 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: might sit with a player, have a beer with him, 513 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: and smoke a cigarette with him, and again showing how 514 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: much how far back it goes, but it was. It 515 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: was part of the understanding of their workspace, our workspace, 516 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: and our mutual love for baseball. Uh. Now you've got 517 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: players who've got their agents, they've got their and their 518 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: Twitter feeds, I've got all this other stuff that seems 519 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: to take a greater priority for their time and space 520 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: than players who preceded them by So it's different. So 521 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: to answer the questions, they're gonna go back, it might 522 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: will the relationships being what they once were not likely. Yeah, 523 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: and then, as you also referenced the play by play, 524 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: guys on the Road and that a lot. I understand 525 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: a lot of teams this year also, at least at 526 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, the broadcasters are not going 527 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: to travel this this season in general. So is that 528 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: something that you think the majority of the teams are 529 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: just gonna avoid paying for. There's a lot of money 530 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: to travel and stay at these hotels and it's a 531 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: big expense. You're absolutely right. I'd think that maybe I'm 532 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: not saying definitively, but it may be a a by 533 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: product of the post pandemic era. Um. And again, if 534 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: I can listen to the World Series films and I 535 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: hear me and I know I'm in this room having 536 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: broadcasts that yet watching it there and knowing that we're 537 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: sounding like I was there when I wasn't, I think 538 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: what will eventually happen to some degree they will cut 539 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: down on announcers traveling because they don't have to. Yeah. Well, 540 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: and Charlie, just in general, you've had such a great 541 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: run here with your many stops along the way, but 542 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: there's people some listeners, little younger guys that they want 543 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: to They want to be you, Charlie. They want to 544 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: reach the heights of Charlie Stein. Any pearls of wisdom 545 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: you have for the younger generations that are listening, they 546 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: want to follow in your footsteps. Don't be afraid to fail, 547 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: be available, Um the haired. There are no shortcuts. It's hard, 548 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: it is. It is a very subjective business. Some people 549 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: may think you're wonderful, and different people here the same 550 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: thing that the others heard. It's like Jesus, he's awful. Um. 551 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: All you can do is the best you can um 552 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: and and work real hard and be around. And as 553 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: branch Rickey said, luck is the resident of design. If 554 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: you're there, you might get lucky. But nobody's gonna knock 555 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: on your front door and say, hey, would you like 556 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: to come and be a Major League Baseball announcer. You 557 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: kind of work your ass off to get there, and 558 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: even then there's no guarantee you're gonna get it. Yeah. Absolutely, 559 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: And you mentioned earlier social media. That is something that's 560 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: changed in our lifetimes, Charlie a lot with the the 561 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: the importance of social media. And I have a love 562 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: hate relationship with with social media. I'm on there because 563 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: of the job and did a talk show you need 564 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: to be on there and whatnot. But it's I'm not 565 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: a big fan, but how how has that entered into 566 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: the equation because so many of the stories today and 567 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: the sports news cycle seemed to come from Instagram or Twitter. 568 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's a fascinating change that's taken place. I 569 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: don't know if it's a change for the better. Do 570 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: you think it's a change for the better? Not? Really? No, 571 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: I do not have a Twitter account. Um. My feeling 572 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: is if I have something to say, I will say 573 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: it on Mike during a game or with you. Um 574 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: and that's as far as it goes. You know, I 575 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: don't care much about what I think let alone. Uh 576 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: Do I necessarily want to share that with people that 577 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: I do not know? Uh? So, No, I'm not a 578 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: fan of it. I do look at it on occasion 579 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: just to get a sense of, you know, what fans 580 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: are thinking about. But I would I would never engage 581 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: in that because it's just not that's not a neighborhood. 582 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: I want to listen. Now, you were the you were 583 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: a big guy at ESPN when in the heyday. I 584 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: consider the heyday of ESPN. Uh, you know, it's still 585 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: a monster. Is probably bigger now than it was then, 586 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: but as far as financially, but that matter, Charlie. In 587 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: those days when you were doing Sports Center and there 588 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: was no there wasn't social media and the Internet was 589 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: still you know, in the early stages and it was 590 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: archaic and and things like that. That Sports Center when 591 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: you hosted that show, that was musty TV. That's how 592 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: people got the sporting news. What was it like in 593 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: those early days at ESPN when I mean all you 594 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 1: guys became big stars, uh, you know in that time 595 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: and then in the years that followed. But you guys 596 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: have had great careers. But what was it like when 597 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: you were doing that and that was that was the 598 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: the center of sports media. I was. I was so lucky. Um. 599 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: I got hired in nineteen never having had a lick 600 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: of television experience. Um. But a fellow named John Walsh 601 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: came in and his task was to turn Sports Center 602 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: into something uh. And then they started to hire people. UM, 603 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: and I was. I was the first of the new 604 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: breed that they brought in as an anchor. And again 605 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: I had to learn on the fly. UM, Peter Gammon's 606 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: was just starting, Andrea Kramer was just starting UH. And 607 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: they had no television experience either. UH. And then within 608 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: a year year and a half, Dan Patrick came in, 609 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: Keith Olberman came in, Robert Roberts came in, Young Mike 610 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: Tarico came in. UM and it was this surge of 611 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: talent um and we were working in this little pip 612 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: squeak town, Bristol, Connecticut. And it was in fact my 613 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: agent at the time when when when they find they 614 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: made an offer to me, they reached out and said, 615 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: do you want to come here? Okay, he said he 616 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 1: didn't think it was a very good idea, said, it's 617 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: a you know, it's a little cable station in Connecticut. 618 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: I said, well, if ever I was going to try television, 619 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: this is as good as any If it didn't work out, 620 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: I could always go back to radio, where I had 621 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: had some success. And so all of a sudden, this 622 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: sports center thing is beginning to take off, and we 623 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: were the last ones to realize it. I mean, we 624 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: just lived in Connecticut, were playing TV and this thing. 625 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: ESPN was coming on the air, MTV was coming on 626 00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: the air, CNN was coming on on the air all 627 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: in the late seventies early eighties, and it was like whoa, 628 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: So we got swept up on it, uh and in 629 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: it had no idea, I mean no idea that it 630 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: would become the thing that it became. And then I 631 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,479 Speaker 1: think the thing that really kind of put us over 632 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: the top ultimately, at least in terms of Sports Center 633 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: personalities and all that, were the Sports Center commercials, which 634 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: still have a pretty good shelf life. So again we 635 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: were the last ones to know. And the other thing 636 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: I think that made it successful was the fact that 637 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 1: we were in Bristol and we had nobody else except us. 638 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: So it became this nuclear family inside this concrete building 639 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: UH in Connecticut. And so we as a group grew 640 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: up together, and we as a group were watched by, 641 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, as it turned out, millions of people, and 642 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: everybody was wondering how they gonna sit twenty four hours 643 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: a day of sports. Wow, they did, And we were 644 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: just all very fortunate. I got to work with Bob 645 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: Lee for every day for twelve of my fourteen years there, 646 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: and Bob and Robin Robertson either three of us were 647 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: together every day for about seven years so we're just 648 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: lucky and it worked out, you know, luck as the 649 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: residue of design. Yeah, and and even all you know 650 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: these years later, since you've been doing the baseball those 651 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: those highlights on on YouTube, some of your the commercials 652 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: are still popular, the blooper videos that I gotta ask 653 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: you about that now you mentioned you've not done TV before. 654 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: Your laugh so infectious. My My favorite was you were 655 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: doing the Mitch blood Green uh story, and that was 656 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: what was it like? Like? What were the people like 657 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: around the camera and the support staff, the people you're 658 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: working with, because you you lost it a couple of 659 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: times on it was great television, But what was were 660 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: they busting your chops while you were doing that? What 661 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: was that like? The first time I lost it was 662 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 1: Carl Lewis and his wretched rendition of the national anthem um. 663 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: And at that point that was two So I'm on 664 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: the air maybe three years. I'm still trying to get 665 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: my uh my sea legs under me. And that morning, uh, 666 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: driving to work, I listened on the radio and they 667 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: had about a ten second clip of Carl Lewis butchering 668 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: the anthem. It was the nets and bulls in Jersey 669 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: and so we had a production meeting every day about 670 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 1: ten ten thirty four, seven o'clock show, and I said, 671 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: I heard the damnedest thing on the radio today, Carl 672 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: Lewis doing the anthem, and it wasn't very good. Maybe 673 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: the tape room has it from last night. We fift 674 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: twenty minutes later, they come up, there's back when there 675 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: were cartridge tapes. Put it in and the entire anthem 676 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: is in there, and oh this is gold. Um. And 677 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: they always would give me the kicker, the final story 678 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: of the of the night, you know, something stupid that 679 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 1: I was. I was good at stupid. So now we 680 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: decided that's gonna be the last story of the day. Um. 681 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: And throughout the day people keep hearing about this Carl 682 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: Lewis thing. And they came by and and and where 683 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: I sat. Long before we had offices, we had little pods. 684 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 1: Um they kept they popped in the Carl Lewis anthem 685 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: and it it was awful. And every time I heard it, 686 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: I laughed. And I'm figuring by seven o'clock, having heard 687 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: it maybe twenty or twenty five times that day, I 688 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: would have been laughed out raw. Um. So he sings 689 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make it up to you. In all 690 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: of that, it was historically bad, and I got lucky. 691 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: I gotta as I'm losing it now. Um that popped 692 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: into my head Francis scott Off Keith. I don't know 693 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: where it came from, but I'm glad that it did 694 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: so anyway, So now I have thoroughly lost it. I'm 695 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: on the air for about thirty seconds and bookers are 696 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: flying out of my nose and and spits coming out 697 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: of my mouth. But I go back upstairs when the 698 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: day has done, put my earpiece in my desk and 699 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: all that, and I'm thinking, I'm I'm done, I'm fired. 700 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: This is this is not gonna this is not gonna last. 701 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: When I go up into the newsroom, everybody is still laughing, hysteric. 702 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, okay, well, maybe I can survive this thing. 703 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: That night, at the eleven o'clock show, Keith and Dan 704 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: I think the first and only time they ever re 705 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: aired an entire segment from the seven o'clock show of 706 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: me and Carl Lewis, and and then the reaction was 707 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: such and it became in many ways kind of liberating 708 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: that if I could survive that and I wasn't worried 709 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: about what the camera was seeing because I had lost it. 710 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: Then it just naturally loosened me up on television, and 711 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: so it was it was therapeutic for me as a broadcaster, 712 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: and so then when I saw funny and stupid stuff, 713 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: it was easier for me to just let it go. Charlie, 714 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: what's your favorite ESPN commercial that you ever did? Ben 715 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: and I were talking about an off air, so kind 716 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: of curious what you thought. I guess followed me to 717 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: Freedom only because it still works, you know. I did 718 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: one with Melrose Place was Bobby the pool Boy, and 719 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 1: again they gave me a lot of you know, punchline 720 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: that was a walking punchline for fourteen years there. But 721 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: I guess followed me to Freedom, which is now more 722 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: than twenty years old. Still works, Yeah, it does. Hey, Charlie, 723 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I appreciate it. I hope to 724 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: see it at the ballpark when things get back to 725 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: some sense of normal there. I haven't seen you in 726 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: a while, but thanks for coming on and continued domination 727 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: on the dodge of broadcast. I hear you all the time, 728 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: and you're you're you're doing a great job. So thank 729 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: you so much, Thank you so much for having to 730 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I'm always upgrading my car, not because I 731 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: need to, because I want to. Today it's custom rims 732 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: from my ride. Tomorrow it might be a new driver's 733 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: side seat cushion. 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